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DEBATE: Matt Powell vs. Mr. Jones || "Creation vs. Evolution" || Atheist YouTuber gets OWNED! · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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  One of the signs of the end of the age.
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  Won't be the people will have a seared conscience, a dead-end
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  conscience. How could anyone with any sense
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  of right? And wrong ask for prayer from an
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  elderly Widow and then steal from a wall faking prayer, yet
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  the sort of evil and much worse as happening daily throughout
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  the sinful world. Major cities across.
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  This country are experiencing a rise in violent crime.
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  Crime is on the rise in the u.s. murders and other violent crimes
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  Rose. Sharply in cities, across the
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  country murder rates, across the u.s. are rising As Cities across
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  the country. See, an increase in violent
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  crime this year. Crime, numbers out from the FBI
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  today, showing a significant increase in the number of
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  murders. And manslaughters last year, do
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  you believe we all I'm from sponges day.
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  If you believe this textbook is right?
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  Yes I think you are much more simple minded than you realize.
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  Let me show you the picture here this.
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  Yeah. This textbook shows.
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  And I got all the text books beside me, that a human and a
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  bird have a common ancestor, which was an amphibian.
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  Let's see, let me find a family tree.
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  Let they show here because I mention about the frog in the
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  prints. Okay, they have these textbooks
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  with these charts all the time showing, all these animals going
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  back to a common ancestor. Do you believe you have a common
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  ancestor with a strawberry Dave? Yes.
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  Okay, you're welcome to believe that.
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  That. That's not science.
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  That's a religion. This is science.
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  Nobody dancing. Nobody's ever seen a strawberry
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  produce an on strawberry and you might get a bigger straw
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  barrier. That's not what that says,
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  happens. It nothing in evolution ever
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  says that dogs produce. Non dogs nowhere?
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  Is that said what does that have to do with anything?
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  Let's calm down, let's take that statement.
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  Nowhere, does evolution say dogs produce?
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  Non dogs. Is an amoeba a dog.
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  No just yes or no. Okay.
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  Did the dog come from an amoeba? What is the bad economy?
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  Come on, yes, you're nobody to me, but what is this have to do
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  with anything? You notice, it did not know it's
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  not come from an amoeba. What does that matter?
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  Well, the charts in the book. So the amoeba turning into all
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  the creatures, including the know.
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  They don't show me a book that shows that can't show me
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  anything. Coming from an amoeba.
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  This is an amoeba. Are you carry out?
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  Our eukaryote simply means the cell contains a nucleus that's
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  Bound in a membrane and I'll use the same terminology you've been
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  using in your simple mind, you think?
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  Because they're all eukaryotes therefore they're all related.
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  Couldn't that the any of common design, you know, all the cars
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  on the highway have metal in them, iron.
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  You're just using exact same analogy.
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  Your why are you talking about cars?
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  They're not biological organisms.
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  This is not about everybody, you're saying that there's no
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  design. Therefore everything is designed
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  adding biological ability to reproduce.
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  Makes it a trillion times more complicated much harder for you
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  there. Eukaryotes can't.
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  They're all you have very good. Taste return to a pine tree and
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  a human. This chart says they did.
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  This is what kids have to learn in school.
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  You do believe in protista, became a human.
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  And a pine tree over 2 million years.
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  Yeah. Okay, just admit it if you want
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  to believe something that dumb, that's fine.
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  I have to see what a dumb religion.
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  You guys have chosen to follow. Not a religion.
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  Is a religion, you believe, there's no moral code, there's
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  no social structure. There's no up and you imagine
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  that over a millions billions of years.
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  The protista could turn to a pine tree and a human.
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  That's what the chart show and that's my objection.
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  Here is a tree of life used in the textbooks that shows humans
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  and arthropods and worms coming from a single cell or Sponges.
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  Do you believe we all came from sponges Dave?
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  You believe this textbook is right?
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  Yes, Pre-cambrian Rock layers are supposedly the oldest layers
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  that there are it's where the the jellyfish.
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  That we all descended from originated, the sponge, our
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  ancestor, the great-great-great-grandfather
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  SpongeBob. That's really what they believe.
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  We're arguing against people that believe in literal to
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  network. That that is your ancestor
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  Nickelodeon you believe. We all came from sponges day.
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  If you believe this textbook is right?
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  Yes. But that takes faith.
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  That takes a rational Faith to believe that.
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  And that takes, it takes an imagination to consider it just
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  imagine. Yeah.
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  Hello, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Brad Keen from God TV
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  radio. I hope you're all having a
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  blessed day out there, we've got mr.
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  Jones, 1972, and meant Powell with us Jones.
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  If you would like to, you can start.
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  If you want to, you have 10 minutes.
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  The New Year opening. I am I audible to everyone.
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  Yes, we can hear you good, good good right after email, minced
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  and some awfully Sorry, video for one.
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  So, my opening statement. Now I am the first to admit that
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  my knowledge of evolution is extremely limited.
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  I have never claimed to be an expert on the subject, not of, I
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  claimed to have studied the subject to any academic standard
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  in light of this startling Revelation, I must put my trust
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  in the hands of the experts and list evidence, that has
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  convinced me. That evolution is true and And
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  scientifically accurate. I say this with absolute
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  confidence, Isaiah found no evidence to explain how life
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  evolved other than the theory of evolution.
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  My first piece of evidence is Transitional fossils and
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  probably the best and most famous disease of these is your
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  tricks. I did have some slides but I'm
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  not going to risk putting slides up a genus of Burbank, dinosaurs
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  that lived between 150 and 125 million years ago in the early
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  Typhon Ian stage in the late Jurassic Period paleontologist.
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  You iCal tricks. As a transitional fossil between
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  dinosaurs and modern Birds. I did have a slide but again,
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  I'm not going to miss it. Hey, I think we know that Ash
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  and modern birds are related. Well, feathers, for instance,
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  Wings the furcula which is a wishbone and reduce and reduce
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  fingers are all characteristics of modern Birds.
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  Again, I did have an image in conclusion.
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  There are enough similarities between Archaeopteryx of modern
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  Birds to convince I'll adjust that they are indeed related.
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  Another example of a transitional species is
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  pakicetus. We do know through fossil
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  records at pakicetus once walked on land, but how is it related
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  to modern day? Whales pakicetus was discovered
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  in Pakistan, lived During the eocene period, approximately 50
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  million years ago and although it primarily primarily lives
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  this life on land, it is leat as a whale relative through its
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  unique in f, x shape. Only whales have such an unfair
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  advantage. Region of the are cold and
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  auditory bulla and pakicetus have this to this image, Etc.
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  I did have an image and it shows the evolution of pakicetus to
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  whale and a bit more detail and I've obviously credited the
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  source of evidence as well. Also, as before, that is enough
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  evidence to convince paleontologists that pakicetus
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  is indeed the answer ancestor of modern, dear whales.
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  Now, onto why I wanted to Had this discussion with mountain
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  and thank you, Matt for accepting, no onto why I really
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  wanted this debate stroke discussion.
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  Matt, Powell's claims that Evolution teaches that dinosaurs
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  fair to themselves into Extinction.
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  It is my opinion that this is simply not the case and I will
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  show evidence. Well I can't show evidence that
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  a minute and what do we say 2 inches in one of his citations
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  is a woman in addressing game that we don't know the name of
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  simply saying that. It's all flatulence cause an ice
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  age and that's why they died out now.
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  Does this woman have a name 27 qualifications?
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  I honestly don't know. But going on camera and simply
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  saying, dinosaurs, gasps themselves to death is not good
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  enough for me. I could make a video right now.
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  I couldn't adjust you guys right now and say, a unicorn has just
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  flown past my window. It doesn't make it true.
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  Another citation that my good friend Mr. Pol uses is a clip
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  from a news program that reads. An article from Fox News.
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  Now, the three bitches scientists in question you and
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  Gene is BET, dr. Dre and ruxin from st.
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  Andrews University in call researcher David Wilkinson from
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  Liverpool. John Moores University.
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  Did write a paper on dinosaur emissions in quotation marks,
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  but nowhere in that paper, does it claimed that dinosaurs are
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  this caused? The extinction of the dinosaurs?
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  I was going to read a summary of that paper, but I won't do it,
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  but in the summary it doesn't mention.
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  Dinosaur extinction. Another citation that Matt uses
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  is a kid's cartoon. No, I can't find the original
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  clip but I did manage to find a video.
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  Several seconds longer than the clip that Matt uses in those
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  Mystics missing s. It implies that, that cartoon is
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  part of a longer video. And the first segment is just
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  part of one part of that video. It lists many different reasons
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  of why the dinosaurs died out and fighting dinosaurs is.
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  Apparently number 63, I have screenshotted at Gamma can't use
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  it and do to do, 'and on the image that I was going to show,
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  I've credited Nick the T-Rex Nick the T-Rex is YouTube
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  channel on this channel. It shows lots of reasons.
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  Why the dinosaurs died out one example or one video shows a
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  dinosaur on a trapeze Crazy. So it's clear that none of these
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  so-called theories should be taken.
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  Seriously. Now onto the final reason why I
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  wanted this discussion to happen and surfing monkeys think one of
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  our favorite topics fossilized teeth of the UK UK or Pittacus
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  monkey were found in Peru. The teeth from a newly
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  discovered species belonging to an extinct family of African
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  primates known as parapet assist.
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  Fossils discovered earlier at the same site in Peru, offer,
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  the first proof that South America Is evolved from African
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  primates. So how did they get from Africa
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  to South America? The theory is, is that they've
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  got the on floating masses of land.
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  Not rafts, logs are lots of seaweed and because I'm dying,
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  you do agree with Matt. The idea sounds implausible and
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  a bit Daft. So we've got to save America in
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  my opinion, on enormous landmasses.
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  I was going to show a video of the Panama Canal.
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  I'll wear an enormous landmass is floating down with trees and
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  vegetation and the trees are still up right now with millions
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  of years ago. The seas are a lot lower
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  continents, are a bit close together and with favorable,
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  currents and winds, there's no doubt in my mind that they
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  couldn't have made that journey across the Atlantic.
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  And as you can see in to do 14 months right now because in
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  light of what I just said, I think that it seems plausible
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  that ancient Monk Is made the journey.
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  From Africa to South America. This concludes my opening
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  statement. And I can't even.
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  All right, man. Are you able to did you hear
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  what he was saying? Yep, loud and clear.
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  You ready for your opening? Sounds good to me.
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  All right, mr. Jones, if you could be, so kind,
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  would you be able to mute your mic that way?
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  We don't hear the papers moving around the mic.
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  Well, I just want to say, thanks to mr.
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  Jones for entertaining, sending an invitation for discussion on
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  this matter. Definitely looking forward to
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  seeing how it's going to pan out.
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  So the Bible says prove all things hold fast that which is
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  good. So the Bible commands us to hold
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  fast to the things that are good and true and right, and to prove
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  all things. And so in order for something to
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  be science, it has to be demonstratable testable and
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  provable. Let's just talk a minute about
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  this whole dinosaurs fighting themselves to that theory,
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  right? I don't believe this Theory.
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  I don't really know of anybody who does other than some people
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  online that are obviously a little out there.
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  But people are actually promoting this today.
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  That dinosaurs actually tooted warm the planet and then they
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  died from global warming. So because people have decided
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  to believe this because people have decided to teach stuff like
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  this. Therefore, I'm going to point it
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  out and it point out why it's absurd.
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  I don't believe that Dinosaurs part of themselves to death, but
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  some evolutionists are out there, proclaiming that
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  dinosaurs. And of course, this one guy
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  says, well not you've misrepresented us, we believe
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  they tooted. He said, and it warm the planet
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  that sounds even more crazy. okay, so let's check out some of
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  these people that actually claim this, but
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  I think what's important here is actually that this once and for
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  all proves that the Creation Museum in Kentucky is wrong
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  because it if dinosaurs were actually fighting that much Adam
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  and Eve would not have been that close to them hanging out.
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  So I just wanted. So these people are claiming
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  that the creationists are wrong that because dinosaurs passed so
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  much gas, that warm the environment, and they died from
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  the global warming and mr. Jones, and his video series
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  called me. A bunch of names made a bunch of
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  ad hominem and I appreciate none of the ad hominem is coming to
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  this debate and we'll try to keep it that way, but it just
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  amazes me that this guy points this out and he takes such issue
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  with me over this claim. Dinosaurs front of themselves to
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  death. Why are people taking issue with
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  me over it? I'm actually combating that
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  fiery. Telling people that it is
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  ridiculous and saying that certain people are teaching this
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  and of course, people are saying, well, you're lying.
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  Matt. Nobody says that Dinosaurs part
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  of themselves to death. This people all over the place
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  saying that I'm just pointing out the absurdity of the
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  supposed Theory. And of course, there's a
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  scientific paper about how climate change, how the
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  dinosaurs sauropods and particular, warmth the
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  environment. And then died from the global
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  warming. It doesn't say that in the
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  paper, the paper itself says that certain Extinction of
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  certain megafauna was contributed to methane levels
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  being too low. So in the paper, the paper
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  itself does mention Extinction. Now, let's talk a little bit
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  about what actually made the dinosaurs go extinct according
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  to Evolution and that was the asteroid strike in the Yucatan
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  Peninsula south of the goal of Gulf of Mexico the chicxulub
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  asteroid. Here's the problem with that
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  this asteroid That you spoke of in your videos, mr.
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  Jones struck two thousand miles away from heart of the Kill
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  Zone. The heart of where all these
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  dinosaurs are found catastrophically buried in
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  sediment. By the way is 2,000 miles from
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  the Yucatan Peninsula. So the chicxulub asteroid, I
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  believe that there was an asteroid that struck the
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  peninsula but it was a miss two thousand miles away.
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  You're going to tell me that asteroid that struck two
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  thousand miles away from a bunch of dinosaurs is what caused
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  their death. Give me a break, but this is
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  stuff that you're saying in your videos.
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  Now I want to go ahead and just answer a couple of these
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  misrepresentations that you brought up in the beginning.
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  You said well I don't know much about Evolution but what I do
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  know is that there are transitional fossils.
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  Hold on a second. Stephen Gould himself said that
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  there are no missing links. The whole chain is missing.
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  So, Stephen Jay Gould. Who is it?
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  Professional in theory, you say I trust the professionals.
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  That's what the professional say.
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  There are no missing links. The whole chain is missing.
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  There are no missing links, that's why they're defined as
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  the missing links because they are missing.
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  And if we are supposedly able to find transitional fossils, we
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  should find more transitional fossils than the actual kinds of
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  fossils that we find that the species we should see a clear.
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  Projected, a clear speciation from Australopithecus afarensis,
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  Lucy all the way up to Cro-Magnon, man, and peeking
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  man. And then all of a sudden you've
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  got humans at the end of this line.
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  You know, and here's the thing, even if we Grant it, even if I
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  grant that, there are homologous structures, that there are
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  transitional fossils. Homologous structures are no
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  problem for creationism. I have no problem saying that.
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  There are certain things that could appear as a transition
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  because we build in homologous patterns and God himself of were
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  made in the image of God. He probably would have done the
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  same thing built Creation in homologous patterns, that's why
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  we share DNA with certain animals.
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  It doesn't mean we descended from those animals.
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  Animals. It means that we are all made up
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  of the same material DNA stuff. That is vital for life.
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  So in the center of the United States, I'm going to kind of go
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  for the jugular here, we find the dinosaur Peninsula.
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  Now, in the dinosaur, Peninsula contains thousands and thousands
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  of dinosaur. Graveyards.
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  Now Within These dinosaur, graveyards are thousands of
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  dinosaurs. And in particular, we find a
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  million square miles of dinosaurs that were
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  catastrophically buried. Let me ask.
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  You a question, folks? What would cause a million
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  square miles of land to get buried catastrophically?
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  And for dinosaurs to be buried in Annex fixated position.
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  The only way to explain that is Noah's flood.
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  These dinosaurs died Enix fixated positions.
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  They were choking on mud as the water was coming in and burying
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  them and sediments, they neck the Arts, their next back.
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  This is a T-Rex fossil of a T-Rex that died under 50 feet of
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  sediment and it had suffocated to death.
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  There is no other way to explain these fossils than the flood of
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  Noah. Now, people can try to argue
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  against the flood of Noah. They can try to say that.
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  It's not a fact, there's nothing more than a fairytale.
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  I heard one guy say, oh, this is so crazy.
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  Do you think that the Earth could be flooded?
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  Look, we live in, what's known as the water Planet?
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  Hello 71% of the earth is currently covered by water.
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  So to say, oh, it's so superstitious to think that
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  there could have been a global flood, that's just absolutely
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  false. So I just want to point that
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  out. And one of the reasons that we
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  know that these dinosaurs were buried in the recent past is
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  because they contain soft materials inside the bones.
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  In fact There are 16 types of bio organic materials that
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  should have degraded if D Tau I'm Evolution were true. 16
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  types, histones blood cells, blood vessels hemoglobin in the
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  blood cells. You're going to try to say that
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  Iron Cross linking could preserve this for 65 million
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  years, that's absolutely false. Absolutely false on absolutely
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  every level we know that dinosaurs live recently because
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  of bio organic material that would have biodegraded over the
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  Deep time of millions of years. I'm not saying all this to come
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  off as some arrogant person or something.
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  I know that I speak in a way that is just very
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  straightforward and to the point.
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  But I would rather offend people with the truth than Comfort them
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  with some butter to over message.
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  Okay. This is the truth.
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  We find over 16 types of bio, organic materials skin, pigments
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  blood cells, blood vessels. We even find histones inside of
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  dinosaur bones. You can't tell me that this
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  lasted for 65 million years evidence doesn't lie.
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  And buy organic material will always degrade over time.
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  Time. We find plant life inside of
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  dinosaurs contained perfectly preserved inside of dinosaur.
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  Stomachs even again, is this stuff going to last for 65
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  million years? You have to ask yourself that.
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  Now, the column that he was appealing to and is open
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  statement is known as the geologic column and they say
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  that we all evolved from a sponge and that over time over
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  generations and variations of change in allele frequencies
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  that we all the sudden became human.
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  So you go from the goo to you. Due to you and so forth.
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  Well the problem with that is that this geologic column, if
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  you actually look closely at the Rock layers, you can tell they
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  were all laid down in one event. It's not that there was slow
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  long periods of time as these layers were getting laid down
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  and the reason that we know that is because these bent Rock
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  layers, Brett, how much time do I have left?
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  We have a few more minutes. Cool.
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  So if you look at the pictures here that I have up on my
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  screen, these are bent Rock. Now, what happens if you try to
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  bend hard rock, it will break according to Evolution these
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  mountains, slowly formed via slope and gradual plate,
• 21:56
  tectonic shifts. Well, if that were the case,
• 21:58
  these rocks would be better, would not be bent, they would be
• 22:01
  crumbled. Rock you cannot bend Hard Rock
• 22:04
  yet. We find perfectly bent hard,
• 22:06
  rock all across the world in these mountain, in these
• 22:09
  mountain ranges. This is just great evidence that
• 22:13
  these were all laid down and then plate tectonics, push them
• 22:16
  up and then they lithified together all those layers in one
• 22:19
  event. In another reason that we know
• 22:21
  that you can see beautiful photos here of these bent Rock
• 22:23
  layers, we have trees connecting all the layers.
• 22:26
  You can't tell me that these layers were slowly laid down
• 22:29
  over millions of years. In the Paleozoic, Mesozoic an
• 22:31
  arc, you zoek ages, mr. Powell.
• 22:33
  This is all absolutely falsified.
• 22:35
  Absolutely false. And this would wipe out the
• 22:38
  whole idea that we evolved from a sponge as well.
• 22:41
  Via a transitional fossils that they can't even name.
• 22:44
  One, you refer to Archaeopteryx Archaeopteryx and what's the
• 22:49
  other one? There's Archaeopteryx.
• 22:50
  There's also there's also one that they refer to for land to
• 22:58
  land to sea animals. Look, you should be finding
• 23:03
  hundreds of thousands. You should be finding millions
• 23:05
  of transitional fossils, Lucy. I believe was a fossil that was
• 23:10
  found scattered of a bunch of different fragments scattered
• 23:14
  over a two mile area and hit. They put it together, they could
• 23:17
  even tell what it was but they just concluded.
• 23:20
  This must be the ancestor of all humans.
• 23:23
  Absolutely false Back on track here.
• 23:28
  You know, we find these polystrate fossils, we find
• 23:30
  whales on mountains, look, this wipes away, the geologic column
• 23:35
  The will is perfectly preserved on top of this California
• 23:38
  mountain here. For example, we find clams in
• 23:40
  the closed position on top of Mount, Everest, 29,000 feet
• 23:44
  above sea elevation. Look, this is absolute proof
• 23:48
  that these things were varied catastrophically because the
• 23:50
  clams were closed and pushed up through the mountain through
• 23:53
  catastrophically tectonic movements that had to be
• 23:56
  catastrophism, identical amounts of c14 and all these coal seams,
• 24:00
  c14 only bass 50,000 years the half-life of 5730 years.
• 24:05
  And if it was truly this Decay rate that they say and truly the
• 24:09
  ages that they say, there would be no c14 and these bottom
• 24:12
  layers. But yet, they all registered to
• 24:15
  statistically the same amount of c14 we find C 14 in dinosaur
• 24:20
  bones as well as, you know, just collagen hemoglobin in the blood
• 24:24
  blood cells, anybody who believes that those things would
• 24:27
  last for 65 million years, you'd have to be golub all folks.
• 24:30
  And I'll end with this point when the across to the Earth was
• 24:35
  broken up like an eggshell and subduction rapid plate tectonics
• 24:38
  was going on. We would predict that certain of
• 24:42
  the crust of the Earth would be subducted into the mantle and of
• 24:44
  course would cause catastrophic plate tectonics and create the
• 24:47
  mountains that we see today, but one of the things that I'd like
• 24:51
  mr. Jones here to notice, is that we
• 24:53
  find Cold, slabs of rock that sink 500 miles down into Earth's
• 24:58
  hot, molten mantle that have not heated up yet, If slow and
• 25:01
  gradual plate tectonics was what caused those rocks to get there?
• 25:04
  They would have been uniform with the temperature in the
• 25:05
  ground. This is 5,000 degree, molten
• 25:07
  rock yet. There's 10 Mile, thick pieces of
• 25:10
  cold, rock down in the mantle of the Earth.
• 25:14
  You can't tell me that slow and gradual geologic, change and
• 25:18
  uniformitarianism is the answer naturalism never did any good
• 25:21
  for science. Catastrophism is what best
• 25:24
  explains. Geology catastrophism is what
• 25:27
  best explains the past. And so the president is not the
• 25:30
  key to the past, my friends, the key to the past, the key to the
• 25:34
  present is actually the past. And so, with that being said, I
• 25:39
  think I should close out but of course, they'll say, well let's
• 25:42
  give our side. Matt what?
• 25:43
  Out our side. Okay, here's your side.
• 25:45
  Here's how you date rocks. You determine the age of the
• 25:49
  fossils. The rocks by.
• 25:51
  Look at this World Book. Encyclopedia says the age of the
• 25:53
  Rocks. May be determined by the fossils
• 25:55
  found in them, but you determine the age of the fossils by
• 25:58
  finding out the age of which the rocks in which they lie.
• 26:01
  So you date the fossils by the Rocks, rocks by the fossils,
• 26:03
  circular arguments absolutely indefensible.
• 26:07
  Surfing monkeys. What's your evidence that these
• 26:09
  monkeys served across their, you found a fossilized tooth fossils
• 26:12
  mean Fake burial. And how are monkeys going to
• 26:17
  survive in a 900-mile, journey, back when the continents were
• 26:19
  closer, even that still 900 miles with no, freshwater sharks
• 26:23
  in the water, currents, that somehow took them across when
• 26:26
  currents. Take you up or down, It's an
• 26:30
  indefensible position and I think that that should be
• 26:33
  pointed out and made very abundantly, clear.
• 26:36
  God bless. All right.
• 26:38
  Ladies and gentlemen, the next section that we're going to be
• 26:40
  working on here is 30-minute open discussion.
• 26:46
  What where we going to do cross or not cross-examination, but
• 26:49
  ripples on rebuttals so eight-minute, rebuttals.
• 26:53
  Okay, Evolution teaches teaching down offer.
• 27:00
  It's no, I didn't learn that, it's cool, my children didn't
• 27:03
  learn that at school. I don't know any school that
• 27:06
  teaches dine or fats as part of why the dinosaurs died out.
• 27:12
  I can only find stuff like that on YouTube.
• 27:15
  It's not in any schools that I've ever seen before are any
• 27:17
  colleges are many universities. I never said that.
• 27:21
  You believe that dinosaurs fact themselves to death.
• 27:24
  I said that's what you said. Evolution teaches.
• 27:28
  I did mention the paper and It doesn't mention dinosaur
• 27:31
  extinction at all, I mention. Meteorites.
• 27:38
  Yeah a massive meteorite if you remember the Chernobyl disaster
• 27:42
  back in the 80s that covered thousands and thousands of
• 27:45
  miles. So in my mind an asteroid
• 27:50
  hitting the planet will affect something.
• 27:52
  Thousands of miles away, it will kick up a lot of dust pickup a
• 27:55
  lot of iridium and it will block out the skull.
• 27:57
  And that's that's the asteroid Theory which was on the same
• 28:01
  page as a book that you courted. Dinosaur Peninsula.
• 28:09
  As I understand it. That's a creationist invention,
• 28:14
  asphyxiated dinosaurs. Yes.
• 28:15
  That could be one of the, one of the things is why the dance
• 28:19
  halls. Dominates is a few or several
• 28:23
  massive, volcanic eruptions or obviously a meteor hit the earth
• 28:29
  and the and that was asphyxiated.
• 28:34
  And if it blocks out, the sun kicks up, Dust.
• 28:38
  The dust comes down chops, all the dinosaurs and absolute about
• 28:41
  that. So they could have died.
• 28:42
  But the honest answer is, we just don't know, science doesn't
• 28:47
  get as many families. We got about three or four
• 28:55
  minutes in and I'm hearing a lot of evolution bashing.
• 28:58
  I'm not hearing a lot of God did this and here's the proof.
• 29:03
  And here's the evidence that God did it.
• 29:05
  I'm just hearing a lot of evolution bashing You mentioned
• 29:09
  Lucy Australopithecus afarensis know about a million years
• 29:12
  before that was added d. I considered the earliest human
• 29:19
  of the earliest. Human ancestors least, human
• 29:21
  ancestors. Wells are mountains before when
• 29:26
  the people in Sonic plates, collided with the mountains.
• 29:30
  Obviously the Earth is flat, Wells are mountains.
• 29:33
  Clams on mountains before the mountains formed, they could
• 29:35
  have died sank to the bottom when the It got buried under
• 29:39
  sediments from Rock and when they play it collided and the
• 29:43
  mountains that would have pushed the fossils up to the top of the
• 29:45
  mountains, fossils, dating, yes, radiometric, dating that, I
• 29:50
  don't know much about it. Sometimes fossils are dated
• 29:54
  within the rocks that the founding.
• 29:55
  But sometimes they also did fossils completely on their own
• 29:58
  using radiometric, dating, you seem to have a problem with
• 30:01
  circular reasoning and God said he did everything in six days.
• 30:07
  Where does it say this? It says it in the Bible is the
• 30:09
  Bible the word of God. Yes it is.
• 30:12
  Again that seems like circular reason to me and that's I think
• 30:17
  that's the end of my rebuilt. Thank you.
• 30:20
  All right, help me out and Matt, thanks for thanks for accepting
• 30:25
  or thanks for agreeing to do this.
• 30:28
  Sure thing. Yeah.
• 30:29
  So actually I'm going to just answer your stuff real quick.
• 30:31
  A little mentally just going to continue this so let's see,
• 30:36
  schools don't see this. Yeah, I never said in this
• 30:38
  debate that school Earnest discussion at schools are out
• 30:40
  there teaching that to people, never said that about the
• 30:44
  dinosaurs farting themselves to death.
• 30:48
  Let's see that this asteroid you said that this asteroid would
• 30:51
  kick up a lot of dust and that's how they got buried was Dustin
• 30:54
  and maybe some vulcanism included.
• 30:56
  Well, I'm sorry, they're buried. See life.
• 30:59
  They're made with Crustaceans, they're buried with fish.
• 31:03
  They're buried in mud and sedimentary rock.
• 31:06
  So they were buried in the mud that killed them.
• 31:10
  The mud that was washed up. And let me ask you a question,
• 31:12
  folks, what would cause a wave to Encompass the entire United
• 31:18
  States or at least half of the United States?
• 31:21
  What kind of catastrophic events would be able to do that and
• 31:24
  very those dinosaurs with sea life with crustacean?
• 31:28
  So, that's what you're leaving out.
• 31:30
  Yes, you're taking certain things that are accurate.
• 31:32
  Into account. Is was it volcanism?
• 31:34
  Absolutely. There was widespread volcanism
• 31:36
  during the flood, so, of course, we would expect some of that to
• 31:39
  play into there as well, but the fact that you find sea life in
• 31:42
  there is kind of the Dead Giveaway that it wasn't just
• 31:46
  some, asteroids, striking up a little bit of dust.
• 31:48
  And that, that's how they went extinct, though, they were
• 31:51
  buried with sea creatures. They were buried in the center
• 31:54
  of the United States and they were buried in the heart of a
• 31:58
  Kill Zone via choking on mud. Choking on the mud that buried
• 32:05
  that buried them. And so, like I said, the expects
• 32:08
  you to positions along with the sea life and Crustaceans that
• 32:12
  are buried with them and fish, it's dead giveaway.
• 32:15
  And then also you mentioned radiometric dating.
• 32:19
  I mean, I was one of the last things that you mentioned
• 32:21
  radiometric, Isotopes can be created in a lab and the next
• 32:24
  day they date as millions of years old.
• 32:27
  So as radiometric dating, true absolutely not radiometric
• 32:30
  dating is 100% false. In fact in 1980 Mount st.
• 32:34
  Helens erupted and it created. Igneous lava, that flowed down
• 32:38
  the side of the mountain and when it hits lithified, some
• 32:41
  scientists took in ten years after it had lithified, they
• 32:45
  sense The Rock samples, five different Rock, symbols to five
• 32:49
  different, Laboratories known as the jiah Khan Laboratories, all
• 32:51
  of our best and the ages that they came back with were
• 32:55
  astounding. The first rock came back is 340
• 32:58
  thousand years old. Now keep in mind, this is Rock
• 33:01
  that's less than 10 years old. It was radiometrically dated the
• 33:04
  second sample came back as 350,000 years old, one sample
• 33:08
  came back as 900,000 years old one sample actually came back as
• 33:11
  7 million years old. Remember this is the the method
• 33:16
  that mr. Jones here, just referenced as
• 33:18
  being reliable method to date the crust of the earth.
• 33:21
  Absolutely false. That last sample came back and
• 33:23
  that study as 2.8 million years old.
• 33:25
  No rock of known age has ever been dated accurately.
• 33:28
  So if we can't rely on radiometric, dating to tell us
• 33:32
  the actual dates of rocks of known age, rocks that have
• 33:35
  lithified in the recent past that we've seen, how can we
• 33:38
  trust him for rocks of unknown age?
• 33:40
  Okay, and then number two, you're assuming that when the
• 33:43
  Rocks solidified that I was no daughter elements present in the
• 33:46
  Rock. You're assuming that there was
• 33:47
  no contamination, you're consuming that the rate of Decay
• 33:50
  has always been the same as it was in the past as it was in the
• 33:53
  present. So, you're assuming all of these
• 33:56
  things I'm sorry. Science is not based on
• 33:58
  assumptions. Science is based on facts
• 34:01
  statistics that which we've demonstrated to be true.
• 34:04
  So I could not honestly even consider radiometric dating
• 34:07
  because there are so many false assumptions that go into it,
• 34:10
  that completely falsify it. Like I said, you can create new
• 34:13
  radiometric isotopes, A lab in the next day, they date.
• 34:15
  As millions of years old, brand new isotopes.
• 34:21
  So if we can restore my screen one more time, guys, I'm just
• 34:25
  going to continue this. So that answer is pretty much
• 34:27
  all the falsehoods that you just spoke there, and this is Miss
• 34:31
  information. I feel like I have to deal with
• 34:33
  this because this is misinformation that constantly
• 34:36
  gets brought up, you didn't address that.
• 34:38
  Monkeys are freshwater animals, they could not drink salt.
• 34:41
  Water would have killed them even pz Myers when he responded
• 34:44
  to me on this matter. He said look, he said these
• 34:48
  monkeys must have been so thirsty.
• 34:49
  Getting off. Off the raft at Sal at South
• 34:53
  America, they must have been thirsty and hungry.
• 34:55
  Even pz Myers knew that they are not saltwater animals.
• 34:58
  They are freshwater animals. It was salt water back, 34
• 35:00
  million years ago so you have to justify them.
• 35:02
  Surviving over, I believe 50 days without any water with
• 35:08
  sharks in the water and you got on video and said, surfing
• 35:11
  monkeys surfing dinosaurs Matt, it's perfectly plausible.
• 35:16
  My friend Sometimes I I don't know quite how to deal with
• 35:24
  stuff like this. These theories that are out
• 35:27
  there but I do my best to bring my opposition.
• 35:32
  You know, there's one guy who said that they were after Don
• 35:34
  seaweed that sounds even more crazy and I know that's not your
• 35:37
  position. But let's get back on track
• 35:38
  here. Let's talk about some actual
• 35:40
  legitimate science. Now according to your model
• 35:43
  takes 10,000 years to get a fossil, it's a form yet we find
• 35:46
  fossilized ripples of water. Now keep in mind, surface area,
• 35:49
  smooth out very quickly, has a surface area of water.
• 35:52
  Ripples going to sit there in the ground for 10,000 years
• 35:55
  waiting to be fossilized? Really let that sink in.
• 35:58
  We find wasps of fossilized raindrops, we find fossilized
• 36:03
  tracks. Again, these surface areas had
• 36:06
  to be buried. So quickly and protected so
• 36:08
  quickly in order to be preserved and if I'm incorrect on this, I
• 36:12
  am compelled by reason to change my position.
• 36:15
  See, that's the difference between me and evolution.
• 36:17
  If I'm wrong, I can change. If something with evolution is
• 36:20
  wrong, it's protected by law and cannot be thought outside of
• 36:23
  within the classroom, if you do think outside of it, you will
• 36:27
  get mods. You will get ridiculed, you'll
• 36:29
  lose your funding. People say you're in this for
• 36:31
  the money, Matt, false. If I wanted to be popular, I
• 36:33
  could come out as an atheist tomorrow.
• 36:36
  You know, one of these non-believers and declare their
• 36:38
  I don't think there is a God. I lack belief in God and make a
• 36:41
  bunch of money. Bunch of people support me.
• 36:44
  Now here's how your model and I'm not sure if you're aware of
• 36:47
  this explains, these tracks that are fossilized.
• 36:50
  They actually expect us to believe in the evolution
• 36:53
  timeline that these dinosaurs Dove down into the water and
• 36:58
  that their Footprints didn't get smoothed out by the water.
• 37:02
  Sometimes I just feel like I don't even know what to say.
• 37:07
  Look, it's like me going back to my childhood lake Lake Superior
• 37:13
  and looking for tracks that I had made when I was five,
• 37:16
  they're not going to be there. They would have smoothed out but
• 37:17
  they expect you to believe in this textbook here that those
• 37:21
  tracks did not gets moved out by the water but they did you just
• 37:23
  slowly sat there and fossilized false your model also says it.
• 37:27
  Rodents cross out the landing. The reason I'm pointing these
• 37:29
  things out. Is because we we are comparing
• 37:33
  two models here were created. Were comparing the creation
• 37:36
  model to the evolution model. You have to prove why creation
• 37:39
  is false. That's what science does, is we
• 37:41
  falsify certain theories. We're in this to falsify things.
• 37:44
  I'm not here to prove creation to you, although I could very
• 37:47
  easily whether you accept it or not, you said you're not
• 37:50
  presenting any proof of creation, okay, here's some
• 37:52
  proof right now. The fact that time space and
• 37:54
  matter is here right now is proof that God exists.
• 37:57
  The fact that you and I are able to have this conversation is
• 37:59
  proof that God exists. The fact that matter and energy
• 38:01
  is around us, is proof that God exists or it's proof that
• 38:05
  nothing cost. Annex nothing cause nothing to
• 38:07
  explode, or expand. As you guys like to say, which
• 38:10
  is just a hermeneutical game to make it sound a little better
• 38:12
  and then expanded into everything that we have today.
• 38:17
  Either nothing cause the explosion, the beginning or
• 38:19
  somebody created everything in the beginning.
• 38:23
  If there is no God, that means nothing would have had to cause
• 38:25
  nothing to explode. Look, evolution is defined as
• 38:30
  change in allele frequencies over time.
• 38:33
  The sent with inherent modification.
• 38:34
  Look these modifications that were seeing even today are
• 38:37
  deleterious, mutation is even deleterious by the very
• 38:40
  definition of what it even is. So this is information that we
• 38:45
  need to make sure to give Clear examples of and we didn't make
• 38:49
  sure to leave no rock or stone unturned.
• 38:51
  How much time do I have left? Are we pretty much at the end
• 38:53
  here? Mr. Jones, do you feel that you
• 38:58
  have anything to say about what he has said and if you want to
• 39:01
  also come back with whatever he says, it's okay.
• 39:06
  I'll just light say ask it's not some Evolution doesn't disprove
• 39:12
  creation, evolution, Is like you said, its descent with inherent
• 39:17
  genetic modification, it really couldn't give a monkey's what
• 39:20
  creation does or if creation exists and I'm still here in a
• 39:25
  lot of evolution bashing but I'm not hearing any well, I heard
• 39:30
  your version of what's of God's your God's existence and that's
• 39:36
  time space and matter. But it couldn't any God of
• 39:40
  created that? Or is it just your God?
• 39:43
  So are you conceding that there's a there's a possibility
• 39:45
  for God right there. No, I did Once in a discussion
• 39:48
  with Brett Kane. But then I've read up on, read
• 39:51
  up on everything and I still maintain that.
• 39:55
  The Big Bang Theory is the best explanation of how the universe.
• 39:59
  Yeah, but are you saying that? It's possible that God created
• 40:02
  the universe? No, I'm asking you.
• 40:06
  Now, I'm asking. I'm asking you.
• 40:09
  I'm saying that just because right so you debunk Evolution,
• 40:13
  does that prove creation Well, it proves that we didn't get
• 40:17
  here via mutations, not disapprove creation.
• 40:20
  That's what happened previously. Appeared volume at, absolutely,
• 40:23
  because either we appeared via magic just out of nowhere poof
• 40:27
  or we were created. If we did not evolve, we were
• 40:30
  created. I mean, there's why isn't it
• 40:32
  acknowledged right there? Well, why isn't the, why isn't
• 40:35
  there another option? Why is it always create another
• 40:39
  option? Even either nothing created the
• 40:41
  universe or something, created the universe, give another
• 40:43
  option. There is no other on.
• 40:45
  That is the gossip. That's what I'm saying.
• 40:49
  Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying.
• 41:12
  Do you believe that an explosion out of chaos produced order?
• 41:17
  Now. Okay, well, an explosion out of
• 41:20
  chaos would be defined as this. And Stephen Hawking said, and I
• 41:23
  quote that if the expansion rate would have changed by one part
• 41:26
  out of one hundred thousand million million.
• 41:27
  After the big bang just one second after nothing would
• 41:30
  exist. So one out of one hundred
• 41:32
  thousand million million chances is pretty chaotic, right?
• 41:36
  Yeah. It is what scientists can be
• 41:37
  wrong science. Science is a self-correcting
• 41:40
  process So are you admitting now?
• 41:44
  That is that it is an explosion out of chaos, that produced
• 41:47
  order. No, I'm saying, just a rapid
• 41:49
  expansion. Also, the Big Bang Theory is
• 41:53
  rapid expansion from an intensely hot dense singularity
• 41:58
  So what caused the explosion? We don't know.
• 42:03
  That's the simple answer is, we don't know, okay?
• 42:04
  But what do you think is more likely than intelligent design
• 42:07
  or nothing? Causing it to explode?
• 42:11
  Well, we don't know. So we can't, we can't say is
• 42:13
  nothing called something so explored, because we simply
• 42:16
  don't know what happened. Just before the big one, just
• 42:19
  before the Big Bang, we simply don't know.
• 42:22
  So, do you believe that everything existed all the
• 42:25
  planets Stars galaxies and oceans as energy inside the big
• 42:28
  bang and infinitely tet. Infinitesimally small Dot No,
• 42:34
  because the Big Bang Theory doesn't teach that I've heard,
• 42:37
  you say, oh, I've heard you say, I'm video of it, you know, all
• 42:39
  the water and of all and averred can often say that, you know,
• 42:44
  all this water and all the animals and all the things and
• 42:47
  all the rest of it were condensed into this tiny little
• 42:49
  dot. It's simply not true.
• 42:51
  The Big Bang Theory. It doesn't teach that it was a
• 42:53
  hot dense, Singularity that rapidly expanded, we didn't even
• 42:57
  have white for the first 300 thousand years.
• 43:00
  We didn't even have any stairs for millions of years after
• 43:03
  that. And we obviously know that stars
• 43:06
  the planets come from staff. So Stellar Evolution hadn't
• 43:09
  taken place yet. Not for a few million years.
• 43:13
  Not after the not for a few million years after the big
• 43:15
  bang. If you give it enough time,
• 43:17
  you'll go from an explosion from an infinitely dense Hat, Point
• 43:21
  to all of time, space and matter not in its present form.
• 43:26
  But over millions of years, these rocks would evolve and
• 43:29
  create themselves, right? Just so I can sort of, so you're
• 43:34
  saying that everything in the universe existed via a DOT of
• 43:38
  energy before it was matter, exploded and created matter.
• 43:44
  Yeah. Within c, 1 Alpha moxa, for I
• 43:48
  think millions of years. I can't remember the exact same
• 43:51
  timeline, but it created electrons right at the start of
• 43:56
  big bang. They started whizzing round was
• 43:59
  around instead of creating a form atoms and stop.
• 44:02
  And that created matter. And then it went well created
• 44:06
  for me matter and then that's that's generally how it did it.
• 44:10
  Okay? So then millions and millions of
• 44:12
  years later after the two million years of rainfall and we
• 44:14
  have the primordial soup come into play.
• 44:17
  I heard you seen a video that it was likely that lightning struck
• 44:21
  Earth, and that was where the first single-celled organism
• 44:24
  emerged that Europe is one of the things What happened if
• 44:29
  lightning was to strike one of us right now.
• 44:30
  Isn't that deleterious by definition?
• 44:32
  Wouldn't that destroy anything? That's living in the premises or
• 44:35
  anything that could possibly live in the future?
• 44:38
  Yeah, well, it's Point. Yes, it will bolt.
• 44:41
  So, how is that? How is that evidence of
• 44:44
  abiogenesis? How is lightning striking mud.
• 44:47
  Something that is deleterious by the very definition, going to
• 44:51
  somehow assemble a cell. Well, gee, not do you not think
• 44:55
  that? I'm sorry.
• 45:00
  Brett Will saying science is a self-correcting process.
• 45:03
  Yes it says have you ever noticed that after after a
• 45:08
  lightning storm that suddenly yet your plants grow and an
• 45:12
  exponential rate? I've noticed this in my garden
• 45:15
  lightning strikes, the ground and then you know the plant step
• 45:19
  straighten out of nowhere. That's what I do.
• 45:22
  We have any means, do we have any examples of Life coming from
• 45:25
  non-life and specifically lightning?
• 45:28
  It's the No, no, no. That's that's the, that's
• 45:31
  another theory all together. Either the, the theory that I
• 45:34
  happen to trust is the 21st, which somehow, I don't the way
• 45:40
  it works. I also don't know it work but
• 45:42
  the avenir first and it went into DNA and it started forming
• 45:46
  my very, very primitive life. Single-celled organisms.
• 45:50
  If you like, that's the feeling that I am too, I am to trust and
• 45:54
  that is actually the theory that most people adhere to.
• 45:56
  But here's the problem, check this out.
• 45:58
  Article out, it says, the first healthy organic molecules may
• 46:01
  have formed within tiny droplets and all scientists agree pretty
• 46:04
  much for the most part that the creation of life and water
• 46:07
  according to this article, but check this out.
• 46:10
  How does DNA get destroyed? Just Google it.
• 46:11
  Sometime it says, DNA is vulnerable this taken from a
• 46:14
  scientific paper says DNA is vulnerable.
• 46:16
  It breaks down in sunlight and in water what was the RNA world
• 46:19
  like sunlight and water? The very thing that destroys DNA
• 46:23
  you think could assemble DNA via RNA processes No, no, that is
• 46:31
  the claim not less. Well, I'll have to read up on
• 46:33
  that because there's this is abiogenesis and not so you're
• 46:37
  saying that you believe in this RNA process but you don't even
• 46:40
  know what the RNA process is this is this RNA just something
• 46:43
  on the process. Well, I've just said that, I
• 46:45
  don't understand the folio the variegated DNA.
• 46:48
  You're here to your here, defending it and saying that
• 46:51
  it's illogical irrational and I'm pointing out.
• 46:53
  We're gonna still not Evolution, though they say biogenesis, it's
• 46:56
  not Evolution, but it's defined as chemical evolution.
• 46:59
  So it is evolution as part of the evolutionary process.
• 47:01
  It's not part of the theory of evolution hey biogenesis is not
• 47:05
  part of the theory of evolution. It is defined as chemical
• 47:08
  Evolution. Anybody can look it up it's not
• 47:10
  this part of the theory of evolution.
• 47:12
  Well that's okay then let's talk about the theory of evolution
• 47:14
  descent with modification. When do you see an animal
• 47:17
  changing from a different from one?
• 47:18
  Kind of animal into another defined kind?
• 47:23
  IE able to reproduce. When do you see a certain family
• 47:28
  or kind of animal merging life? A fun example 2 we can juice or
• 47:32
  better yet. How about since you brought up
• 47:35
  the whole surfing monkeys thing and how it's so plausible?
• 47:38
  Why don't you address? The fact that these are salt,
• 47:42
  this is salt water that they're floating across.
• 47:43
  How do they survive for weeks and weeks without any water?
• 47:47
  Well, I explained in the video and I explained on the ultimate
• 47:52
  statement that there was lots of vegetation on this.
• 47:57
  I am in almost one mustard before another planet.
• 48:00
  But what did you think is food? Vegetation is food, we're
• 48:03
  talking about water, what did? Yes, you can get water from
• 48:06
  food. So, okay.
• 48:09
  So now you're just concerns Walter letís consider lettuce is
• 48:13
  90% water bananas contain water fruit contains water, hit
• 48:17
  correct. But where is your everything
• 48:18
  save water going to take them North or South?
• 48:21
  Is it going to take the 900 miles across the ocean?
• 48:25
  Well, I'm not saying the very first monkeys jumped on the
• 48:28
  jumps on a raft and then serve to cry.
• 48:29
  Not saying that it was a rap. You're arguing that it was a
• 48:32
  vegetation floating Mass, the floor too much.
• 48:34
  I'm not saying but one group of monkeys jumped on a raft and The
• 48:38
  very first journey carted them all the way across the Atlantic
• 48:41
  Ocean. I'm not saying that I'm saying
• 48:43
  there could have been many many land masses but snapped off and
• 48:47
  one of them. One at a tent could have made it
• 48:49
  across. I'm not saying they all
• 48:51
  survived. So what okay, but what did they
• 48:56
  do? What did they drink?
• 48:57
  What there was no fresh water, you're saying that somehow there
• 49:00
  was they stored fruit with them? You know please?
• 49:04
  No I didn't say that again. We simply don't know.
• 49:08
  But this is the best theory as it were.
• 49:12
  That seems to fit the facts. We found fossilized teeth in
• 49:15
  Peru. We know that they originated
• 49:18
  from parapet acids in Africa. So how did they make the journey
• 49:22
  from Africa? To South America?
• 49:24
  No, the best theory is that they got there from a land mass that
• 49:29
  snaps off from Africa and got all the way to South America.
• 49:32
  I'm not saying the first one did it?
• 49:33
  Not saying the second one did it, but what I'm saying is that
• 49:36
  masses of vegetation can snap off and sustain one or two
• 49:41
  monkeys? If you will got I don't I'm not
• 49:43
  going to argue that vegetation mats cannot be snapped off a
• 49:46
  certain places in carry certain pieces of vegetation and so
• 49:49
  forth biological organisms across certain areas, of course
• 49:52
  we've observed that but Hundred miles. 900 miles, really let
• 49:57
  that sink in ladies and gentlemen, you know, you're
• 50:00
  actually advocating that for 900 miles.
• 50:03
  They wrapped it. Across on a vegetation map.
• 50:07
  And let me ask you this, you never, you never have to be
• 50:09
  addressed, really, any of my arguments about fossilization
• 50:12
  about, I dressed every single one of yours, but you never had
• 50:15
  real passion, Evolution. You got it for the Dinosaur.
• 50:18
  Press preserved, tissues. How do you think that these
• 50:22
  tissues will preserve? Do you think that they really
• 50:24
  died out 65 million years ago? Mary Swanson a devout Christian,
• 50:29
  I am stoned with that. Say that again.
• 50:33
  Mary Schweitzer devout Christian discovered remains of blood
• 50:36
  cells in dinosaur. Fossils later, discovered, soft
• 50:39
  tissue demented, T-Rex. The specimen was pregnant, when
• 50:43
  she went apparently, the see Lex die.
• 50:46
  Poor bugger. Can I just ask Pat King before
• 50:48
  you before you start? Brett.
• 50:51
  Yes, I thought you was going to remain neutral.
• 50:56
  I am well I guess I can see in the side chat here.
• 51:02
  Matt's is correct. Chemical Revolution, refers to
• 51:05
  changes in things that need not be capable of reproduction.
• 51:08
  I've always going to remain neutral why I thought I wasn't
• 51:11
  supposed to speak up and voice but I'm just typing over here.
• 51:16
  I am corrected is defined as chemical Evolution.
• 51:19
  I mean, you can say a lot of Illusion is not part of the
• 51:22
  theory of evolution. Yes, but it is a theory with in
• 51:27
  evolutionary theory. If you will know, it isn't just
• 51:29
  this defined as because it is defined as well.
• 51:32
  Then you're just not educated on this topic because anybody can
• 51:34
  go to Google and look up chemical evolution in the first
• 51:37
  thing that pops up is the synthesis of original life.
• 51:40
  The synthesis of the first single-celled organisms, the
• 51:42
  symphysis, I will remain out of text as well as voice from now
• 51:51
  on. Okay.
• 51:53
  I'm not saying you're the man. Senior status.
• 51:55
  I charm just saying you remain neutral.
• 51:57
  As you said, you would be all right.
• 51:59
  Well, I apologize if that up. Thank you.
• 52:01
  I will not do it again. Thank you, mr.
• 52:03
  Jones, you mentioned Mary Schweitzer, right?
• 52:06
  And I don't know if you know this but when they were actually
• 52:09
  Excavating these bones, the stench of death was still there
• 52:12
  in the hell Creek formation. They said they reported that
• 52:15
  they could still smell the stench of death and Within These
• 52:18
  dinosaur bones contain blood hemoglobin in the South as well
• 52:23
  as men's all that salt and stretchy material.
• 52:26
  So how could this stuff lasts for 65 million years?
• 52:29
  If your models correct? Well I don't know.
• 52:33
  I'm not like I said I'm not changing.
• 52:36
  I said it right to the top of the thing that may have
• 52:38
  knowledge of evolution isn't isn't.
• 52:40
  So isn't up to scratch at all but this is very Schweitzer.
• 52:47
  Okay. Granted read up on Mary
• 52:48
  Schweitzer and she said, she discovered remains of blood
• 52:52
  cells in dinosaur. Fossils later, discovered sauce,
• 52:54
  soft tissue remains in T-Rex. Now, I don't know how long, I
• 53:00
  don't know how. How soft tissue survive, didn't
• 53:05
  T-Rex items, that don't know. But you think it's plausible to
• 53:08
  believe that it survived for 65 million years, with
• 53:11
  differentiating temperatures in the ground, and sitting there,
• 53:15
  within the hell Creek formation, It is an annual dividend send.
• 53:23
  Yeah, you'd have to defend that blood cells lasted in the ground
• 53:29
  and you're defending this right now for 65 million years with
• 53:33
  proteins, and also dinosaurs that have grass inside of their
• 53:37
  stomachs, we've even found dinosaur feces, mr.
• 53:41
  Jones with fecal, matter that is somehow lasted, 65 million years
• 53:45
  and we found out that these dinosaurs ate grass, which again
• 53:49
  was a prediction that we made on our model but it was failed on
• 53:52
  the evolution of side. Let me ask you this.
• 53:54
  I don't want to ask all the questions here today.
• 53:56
  Final. What's that?
• 53:59
  How did it fail? What because Evolution taught
• 54:02
  that grass, actually evolved via 55 million years ago but
• 54:06
  dinosaurs died out, 65 million years ago.
• 54:09
  So dinosaurs Never Saw Grass because they didn't find grass
• 54:12
  in the fossil record. But we actually analyze
• 54:14
  coprolites, dinosaur dung and found that they actually ate
• 54:18
  grass. Pulls it off.
• 54:20
  I'm just, yeah, but they also have two species of grass that
• 54:23
  existed when dinosaurs existed I'm sorry, they found a species
• 54:29
  of grass or one particular kind of grass that existed were
• 54:34
  dinosaurs existed. Yeah.
• 54:36
  But the point that I was making and anybody can Google this is
• 54:38
  that, no grass existed during the time of the dinosaurs, that
• 54:41
  grass, I just have lost yet. I think what we should do.
• 54:45
  A Brett, how many more minutes do we have?
• 54:53
  Hello. Bret.
• 54:53
  You there. Right.
• 55:03
  So let's let's talk about Evolution then because you said
• 55:07
  that Evolution basically means change over time.
• 55:10
  Well, I believe in change over time but I'm not an evolutionist
• 55:14
  and so you could Define me as an evolution that's just because I
• 55:17
  believe in change over time. But these changes over
• 55:19
  Generations over these populations are deleterious by
• 55:23
  definition. What part of the mutation
• 55:26
  through selection mechanism, that is required to drive.
• 55:28
  Evolution is is verifiably. Terrific.
• 55:32
  And that we can observe today. I'm give me beneficial
• 55:39
  mutations. I'm talking about a mutation a
• 55:43
  group of mutations that would drive a fish to a fisherman.
• 55:46
  Like Evolution teaches. No, it doesn't take sot.
• 55:49
  So you actually do some people familiar Generations by a
• 55:55
  variations that we descended from over millions of years.
• 55:58
  So eukaryotes. So, just because they're
• 56:01
  eukaryotes means that we're related.
• 56:02
  Correct posture is so you don't miss this eukaryote as well,
• 56:06
  right? So the yeast is a eukaryote as
• 56:10
  well. Yes.
• 56:11
  So that means, we're related to yeast.
• 56:13
  According to you, that means, we're related to pine trees and
• 56:15
  elephants because they're eukaryotic organisms.
• 56:18
  Well, you could argue that squids and pens are related
• 56:21
  because they score I think you could argue that the clouds
• 56:25
  because they have water inside of them, and watermelon has
• 56:27
  water inside of it is sounds somehow watermelon and clouds
• 56:31
  are related, ladies and gentlemen.
• 56:32
  Because they have, what is a pain in your opening statement?
• 56:35
  You literally said dinosaurs and birds both have a very, very
• 56:40
  similar Wishbone, therefore they're related, I'm sorry, that
• 56:44
  is nice of and eukaryotes. Say that again.
• 56:49
  Is a pain. A eukaryote.
• 56:53
  Is a what a eukaryote a pen. You mentioned squids and pen a
• 56:57
  pen is not a eukaryotic just because certain things have
• 57:00
  similar characteristics doesn't mean that they come from common
• 57:02
  descent. That's not it's just common
• 57:05
  ancestor from common ancestry, common descent.
• 57:09
  That they shared a common ancestor, because they have, why
• 57:12
  not? Yeah, why not because, well, for
• 57:16
  one we only see animals producing within their families.
• 57:20
  And then number two, if we look at the genetic makeup of certain
• 57:25
  animals, for example, the Y chromosome of a human versus the
• 57:28
  Y. Chromosome of the chimp, we have
• 57:30
  a somewhat similar Y chromosome. Well, evolutionists have
• 57:34
  concluded that based on the Y chromosome analysis that somehow
• 57:38
  we are. Are we descended from chimps?
• 57:41
  Because we have a similar Y chromosome will.
• 57:43
  Look, we have more in common with a gorilla's, Y chromosome
• 57:46
  than a chimps. Y chromosome.
• 57:48
  So does that mean we descended from gorillas?
• 57:49
  No, it means that we share certain DNA barcodes with
• 57:52
  certain of the creation that's around us because we are all
• 57:54
  coded with the same code for Life via DNA.
• 57:57
  So of course we would expect her to be similarities.
• 58:00
  We'd expect for certain organisms like ourselves to be
• 58:02
  eukaryotes. So what big deal.
• 58:04
  It doesn't prove that weird related to pine trees or
• 58:08
  Elephants or here. Just it's so let me sleep is on
• 58:12
  you to show how that, how we are related.
• 58:15
  Just because we're eukaryotes, Let me ask you.
• 58:20
  This is a Red Squirtle, an iguana gray, squirrel, same kind
• 58:25
  I would say so why can't the integrate because when
• 58:29
  populations reproduce, What happens is when these certain
• 58:33
  kinds reproduce reductive traits come into play.
• 58:37
  For example, you might have a set of parents that will
• 58:40
  actually produce offspring that are inter fertile.
• 58:43
  It's it's not an example of evolution, my friend.
• 58:46
  This is a, this is a full of greed.
• 58:48
  Active process for they can no longer reproduce something that
• 58:51
  we would predict in the creation model, both of the same kind and
• 58:55
  in the Bible it says the animals of the same kind will bring
• 58:58
  forth after their kind, but you just don't you just said the red
• 59:02
  squirrels and quit and gray. Squirrels are the same kind of
• 59:06
  animal. Yes.
• 59:07
  But everything, but certain kinds will actually Bible is
• 59:09
  wrong with you. No longer.
• 59:11
  I'm explaining. There are certain times that
• 59:13
  gets to a point where they can no longer interbreed because
• 59:15
  they have Diversified. And because entropy has To those
• 59:18
  organisms. It is, it is reductive.
• 59:21
  So, what you're claiming is proof of evolution or even
• 59:24
  possible. This is how we drive Evolution
• 59:26
  and speciation. Well, number one, they're still
• 59:28
  part of the same family or genus.
• 59:31
  And then number two, these organisms, these organisms are
• 59:37
  reductive when they can no longer the inter fertile, that's
• 59:41
  reductive by definition, that's part of the Fall, that's part of
• 59:44
  sin, that's part of mutations, entering in and making it so
• 59:47
  certain Creatures can no longer interbreed it goes perfectly
• 59:51
  with our model. The burden of proof would be on
• 59:53
  you to explain how you go from the goo to you or even from ape
• 59:58
  to man via mutations. Well, I'm still not an answer
• 1:00:05
  because does the bible say that means will bring forth and I
• 1:00:10
  think your question, excuse me. I don't know, personally, I
• 1:00:17
  don't know how we got from, just the theory of evolution teaches
• 1:00:21
  that we was all eukaryotes and eukaryotes, produce any of you
• 1:00:26
  carry web explain to you why that's wrong.
• 1:00:28
  Just because we are eukaryotes and pine trees are eukaryotes,
• 1:00:31
  doesn't mean that we share a common ancestor with pine trees.
• 1:00:33
  It means that we're all made up of the same genetic of similar
• 1:00:36
  genetic material. That is code for life because we
• 1:00:39
  all live on one planet. The way that these genes are
• 1:00:42
  expressed are very different in the way that The certain
• 1:00:45
  barcodes of DNA and us are expressed or very different than
• 1:00:48
  that of a pine tree. Just because we have you that we
• 1:00:53
  are eukaryotes doesn't mean that we descended from a common
• 1:00:57
  ancestor with a pine tree. It means I mean, you look at the
• 1:01:01
  differences versus the similarities and the differences
• 1:01:05
  while outweigh the similarities. Well, I know why, why are we
• 1:01:10
  not? This see staff from eukaryote.
• 1:01:14
  I've made some Notes. Well, I mean, I understand what
• 1:01:20
  you're trying to say, mr. Jones, and I'm not trying to be
• 1:01:22
  down in you look. You could literally argue that
• 1:01:27
  me and another animal, let's say a cat have a common ancestor,
• 1:01:31
  just because we both have eyes, that is literally the argument
• 1:01:34
  that you're presenting in this discussion.
• 1:01:35
  What isn't you're saying that? Because okay, because we're
• 1:01:38
  eukaryotes because we have a certain type of cell therefore
• 1:01:42
  and then we share this certain type of cell with another
• 1:01:44
  creature. Therefore, we came from a common
• 1:01:47
  ancestor related. Yes, yes.
• 1:01:49
  So would you make the same argument about having eyes or
• 1:01:53
  five toes or Let's say family size.
• 1:01:58
  I mean, where do you draw the line on this?
• 1:02:00
  Well, it depends. Which is nothing more than
• 1:02:02
  propaganda. Well, it depends which taxonomic
• 1:02:05
  category you want to come from because the domain which is,
• 1:02:09
  which is the top of the tree, is you carrier, which is eukaryotes
• 1:02:12
  and then it goes through and it met earlier.
• 1:02:14
  And then the phylum class, the order, the family, the genus or
• 1:02:17
  species, but right at the top of the tree, though is the main.
• 1:02:23
  and you and I still like to get an answer this question because
• 1:02:27
  he said something about mutations But you said that the
• 1:02:32
  same kind of animal. Why can't that squirrels and
• 1:02:35
  gray squirrels? We produce only explain it to
• 1:02:38
  you twice but I'll explain to you again.
• 1:02:40
  They are inter fertile because of the Fall because of reductive
• 1:02:44
  Evolution. See we are devolving.
• 1:02:47
  You believe we are evolving, we're becoming better.
• 1:02:49
  But this proves that these kinds of animals.
• 1:02:51
  They're actually becoming productive in a sense, they
• 1:02:54
  can't reproduce anymore. That means that that is not
• 1:02:57
  Evolution. That is D evolution by
• 1:02:59
  definition. Evolution doesn't mean Evolution
• 1:03:03
  means descent with inherent genetic modification, but those
• 1:03:07
  modifications need to be able to make it so they can survive in a
• 1:03:10
  new environments. Now, keep this in mind.
• 1:03:14
  I believe that microevolution is true.
• 1:03:17
  Yes, we adapt to our environments.
• 1:03:19
  We will make changes but that is because of heterozygosity that's
• 1:03:21
  been built into us. And when these red and gray
• 1:03:25
  squirrels they can no longer be in her fertile.
• 1:03:27
  That's just an example of heterozygosity going from
• 1:03:30
  heterozygosity to homozygosity to where they can no longer
• 1:03:34
  reproduce. It doesn't mean that we all
• 1:03:36
  descended from a common ancestor.
• 1:03:38
  It means that things are becoming worse over time, and we
• 1:03:41
  are becoming less and less fertilizer.
• 1:03:43
  Population. I mean we've even looked at
• 1:03:46
  sperm cells in male humans and from generation to generation
• 1:03:50
  were losing sperm cells. Were losing the ability to
• 1:03:52
  reproduce from generation to generation.
• 1:03:54
  Entropy is occurring. We have 100 to 200 more
• 1:03:57
  mutations than our parents have mr.
• 1:03:59
  Jones. What that means is that we are
• 1:04:01
  more mutant than them, we die from mutations.
• 1:04:04
  These mutations are defined as neutral but they cannot be
• 1:04:07
  weeded out by natural selection. So if mutations building up in
• 1:04:10
  populations over time, continues over these Generations, we will
• 1:04:15
  go extinct and that's why evolution is false.
• 1:04:17
  It is not true. It is falsified at the
• 1:04:19
  fundamental of what a mutation even is the very thing that
• 1:04:23
  supposed to drive Evolution the very thing, the very model that
• 1:04:27
  you're proposing. Proposes that mutations, are
• 1:04:30
  what caused us to evolve from literal fish to land dwelling
• 1:04:36
  animals. All the way up from You see all
• 1:04:39
  the way up to mankind. Was this?
• 1:04:41
  It are we done evolving? I don't want to take a time.
• 1:04:44
  I'm going to turn it back over to you.
• 1:04:48
  You once said that rocks conceived, you still believe
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  that. Or Evolution TV back the Rocks
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  conceived. What?
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  Actually we know that Evolution teaches that because it is like
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  I said earlier it's defined as chemical Evolution and then
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  number two I can actually show you a paper that actually
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  explains this. So I'm going to go to the paper
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  right now actually. The title of the paper is that
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  you owe your life to a rock mr. Jones.
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  And of course, this is one of the things that you brought up
• 1:05:22
  in your videos as a supposed lie that Matt Palin can Hoban spew
• 1:05:26
  but it is common knowledge. I'm going to look it up here.
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  The title of the paper is you owe your life to a rock.
• 1:05:35
  Here it is. You owe your life to Iraq.
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  Erosion of metal-rich, granite long ago, set the stage for
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  multicellular organisms. Check this out.
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  This is this is literally what your theory is saying.
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  So thank goodness for granted, this is how the article starts
• 1:05:52
  out. Thank goodness for granted.
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  You know what I would say? I would thank God for life, not
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  rock. Thank God, that were alive.
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  Thank goodness for granted, if not for the formation in some
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  subsequent, erosion of large, quantities of metal-rich.
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  Granite, these heavy metal elements, mr.
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  Jones had to erode from the granite that somehow came here
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  by chance. A rock that we can't create on
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  purpose. Somehow created Itself by
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  chance. And then when it was raining for
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  two million years, it rotated the rocks to a point where
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  multicellular life would now be able to use those chemical
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  compounds to survive. That is what evolution teaches
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  that is chemical Evolution. That is the fundamental of the
• 1:06:34
  theory. But also read that again.
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  I'll did read it once. Well I got to read that again to
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  make sure. It is well thanks, I'm not, I'm
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  not want to be on this planet. What's that some of the
• 1:06:53
  ingredients were already on this planet?
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  Yes. But the ingredients for life
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  would not have assembled themselves if it weren't for the
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  heavy metal elements that came out of the granite rock when it
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  was being rained on 42 million years according to the model.
• 1:07:06
  So so like sorry, go on. I was gonna say so
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  single-celled, organisms could exist without it, but
• 1:07:12
  multicellular organisms. According to Evolution, could
• 1:07:15
  not have existed. According to this paper could
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  not have existed. Unless these heavy metal
• 1:07:20
  elements were eroded, From the Rocks.
• 1:07:22
  So when you come on here and say nobody believes or you get on
• 1:07:25
  your channel, nobody believes that we came from rocks.
• 1:07:28
  That's just a light. You're just hearing that from
• 1:07:29
  other atheists YouTubers because this is what evolution teaches.
• 1:07:33
  If evolution teaches the Earth was a hot molten ball of rock
• 1:07:37
  and then it rained on the rocks for millions of years and out of
• 1:07:39
  that suit, came me and you over generations and variations that
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  is what evolution teaches that is that we evolved from rocks
• 1:07:47
  that we descended from the calculate chemical elements
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  contained in these the rocks. So that is the, I liked it.
• 1:08:01
  I liked to read up on that because I didn't I didn't
• 1:08:03
  anticipate that. That question.
• 1:08:07
  I'm not trying to be done in you mr.
• 1:08:08
  Jones. But isn't it kind of, isn't it?
• 1:08:10
  Kind of not a good thing to get on video and to bash me and
• 1:08:15
  scream at Powell's a liar? He's just making all this stuff
• 1:08:18
  up. He's disgusting when I have
• 1:08:22
  sources for everything that I brought forth today sources
• 1:08:25
  from. So she's everything that you
• 1:08:26
  said, I've lied about I've brought sources for forward for
• 1:08:33
  so I would just encourage you to make sure to do research before
• 1:08:37
  you jump on it. It sessions like this and don't
• 1:08:39
  call me a liar for making a certain claim that has been
• 1:08:42
  verified in this discussion because it is a true claim.
• 1:08:45
  This is the model the wrong thing.
• 1:08:51
  No I don't believe for one second.
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  No because I think you're oversimplifying I'm because you
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  said on video the Rope, you said on the video you said on video
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  that Iraq conceived. What I said, when you tell me, I
• 1:09:08
  will rock conceives. Can you say that again?
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  I can barely hear you. Are you asking about you son?
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  You said on video a rock. They believe your exact words.
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  They believe a rock conceived. Correct.
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  Tell me how you. Yeah.
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  You tell me how a rock can conceive.
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  I don't believe it can conceive. I never did know.
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  Your model is claiming that it did because it rained.
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  No, no, no. You said it did.
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  And then we evolved from those heavy elements.
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  That means that we were conceived from rocks.
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  It's not hard to figure out on the field at all.
• 1:09:52
  It's a told misrepresentation you trying to oversimplify
• 1:09:55
  things and it's ridiculous. It is not a misrepresentation.
• 1:09:59
  It is complete mess with misrepresentation.
• 1:10:01
  You said over conceived and how does it work conceived?
• 1:10:05
  Then let the viewers decide. If the viewers can pull up the
• 1:10:08
  article for themselves that says in the title out, pull it out
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  myself, you know, your life. To Iraq.
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  That's the only that I'll be the paper, but I'm asking you right
• 1:10:17
  now, how does a rock conceive? You tell me.
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  I don't believe that. What was it saying?
• 1:10:23
  The paper, the rock conceived. What does it say in the theory
• 1:10:26
  of evolution that a rock can see with this point, we're just
• 1:10:30
  arguing hermeneutics, you're moving the goalposts.
• 1:10:33
  I'm not moving the goalposts. It's all.
• 1:10:35
  I'm not moving the goalposts. It's all I think you mentioned
• 1:10:38
  rocks this many times and gentlemen, Gentlemen, let's go.
• 1:10:42
  Let's relax. Let's try to do it one at a time
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  here. That's fair enough.
• 1:10:49
  You mentioned rocks. You said a rock conceived on one
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  of your videos. You said that this is the theory
• 1:10:55
  of evolution. This is what it teaches a rock
• 1:10:57
  conceived. You tell me where in the theory
• 1:11:00
  of evolution, does it say a rock conceived.
• 1:11:03
  The reason that we know that according to Evolution a rack
• 1:11:08
  would have conceived is because I've explained this many times,
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  I mean, explain it one more time and then I'm done.
• 1:11:15
  Because these heavy chemical elements that were contained in
• 1:11:17
  the Rocks were rained on and were eroded out of the rocks and
• 1:11:22
  then those heavy chemical elements were what made our life
• 1:11:26
  possible? So yes the title of the article
• 1:11:28
  is you owe your life to Iraq and that is what they are saying.
• 1:11:32
  They say thank goodness for granted or we wouldn't be here.
• 1:11:35
  They're saying, we descended from rocks, they're saying that
• 1:11:38
  life came about via, spontaneous generation via soup and you said
• 1:11:43
  that the RNA world, Was a good mechanism to rely.
• 1:11:46
  That's the one that I personally by into is the RNA World
• 1:11:49
  hypothesis which I debunked just a few about 30 minutes ago,
• 1:11:54
  sunlight and water destroys DNA. So how is life going to assemble
• 1:11:57
  itself in sunlight and water on rocks.
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  Explain that to me, Well, still have a number.
• 1:12:05
  I'll still love inside announcer, but I rock conceived
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  a word. It's a word.
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  You three times. No, no, no.
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  You didn't know you didn't concede.
• 1:12:17
  How does it produce? An egg?
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  Mr. Jones, I'm not going to answer you again.
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  I will find this is Rock produce an egg.
• 1:12:25
  How does a rock produce sperm eggs of rock reproduce?
• 1:12:29
  A rocks. We produce a rock conceived RNA
• 1:12:34
  via erosion of the Granite erosion of the chemicals.
• 1:12:41
  The heavy elements in this article that were eroded that
• 1:12:45
  somehow conceived that somehow assembled themselves in sunlight
• 1:12:50
  and water the very thing that destroys DNA.
• 1:12:52
  I can't even believe somehow have discussions like this
• 1:12:54
  because you should be able to just say okay, you know what,
• 1:12:58
  sunlight and water too. Destroys DNA, I'm throwing it
• 1:13:00
  out, but you'll still sit here and argue.
• 1:13:03
  Well, why are you saying a rock? And see, I'm not saying a rock
• 1:13:06
  conceived their cities out there.
• 1:13:10
  What's that? You said?
• 1:13:10
  That one of your videos said that these people think a rock
• 1:13:14
  conceived. In fact, I have college
• 1:13:15
  students. I have you know some that
• 1:13:17
  evidence to back it up telling me that they believe God created
• 1:13:22
  the universe. I could show you the interviews
• 1:13:25
  of them saying yeah, we believe we came from rocks.
• 1:13:27
  Please Daddy please do a video about it.
• 1:13:29
  I will release a video about it. Pretty much a pretty good pretty
• 1:13:33
  quick here because I feel like it should be put out there in
• 1:13:36
  the public eye. Was that's gonna wait till film
• 1:13:38
  that I was going to release on this matter but look the the
• 1:13:42
  mutation through selection process and the abide by the
• 1:13:45
  abiogenesis soup has been thoroughly debunked.
• 1:13:48
  I debunked it just by using some basic scientific papers.
• 1:13:52
  The Bible says, in the beginning, God created the
• 1:13:54
  Heaven and the Earth not in the beginning.
• 1:13:56
  Nothing exploded and somehow or nothing it rapidly Banded faster
• 1:14:00
  than any explosion in history, which is an explosion by
• 1:14:02
  definition and created everything that we see around us
• 1:14:04
  in the world today it is absolutely false.
• 1:14:07
  It has been falsified and people that were would speak of this,
• 1:14:11
  in an honest manner. Should just throw it away.
• 1:14:13
  Throw the hypothesis of evolution away.
• 1:14:15
  Mr. Jones, except that, which is demonstrated to be true, that,
• 1:14:19
  which is demonstrated to be fact and that is creation,
• 1:14:22
  creationism creation science. The world was created.
• 1:14:26
  God loves you, he died for you, he came here, 2000.
• 1:14:29
  Years ago, died on a cross was buried and rose again for your
• 1:14:32
  sins and my sins. And he wants you to go to heaven
• 1:14:36
  with me. I want you to go to heaven with
• 1:14:37
  me. I don't want you to go to hell.
• 1:14:40
  Now look, I understand, we're just trying to keep this as a
• 1:14:43
  general discussion, but I think we should probably just wrap it
• 1:14:46
  up. All kind of on some evidence for
• 1:14:50
  God. I gave you evidence for God,
• 1:14:53
  time-space. Oh, you didn't know.
• 1:14:59
  Well, I've done videos on this explained that there are only
• 1:15:03
  two concepts of religion. There's people who work their
• 1:15:05
  way to heaven, and there's people who trust Christ as
• 1:15:08
  Savior. Every other religion teaches
• 1:15:09
  work salvation, my faith is in Christ.
• 1:15:12
  And in the done religion, the one who said that, he paid it
• 1:15:15
  all. When he died for my sins, past
• 1:15:17
  present and future, but faith is very efficient.
• 1:15:20
  There's only two concepts, so it's not hard to figure out but
• 1:15:24
  faith is belief, isn't it? Faith is belief without evidence
• 1:15:29
  false. Faith is defined as a confidence
• 1:15:32
  or trust in someone or something, look it up in a
• 1:15:34
  dictionary. Don't tell and it's not much no
• 1:15:36
  problem. Faith is defined as a confidence
• 1:15:40
  or trust in someone or something.
• 1:15:44
  It is not believing things without evidence.
• 1:15:46
  You've been listening to too much aronra, my friend you've
• 1:15:49
  been listening to Too Much mr. Larry Nelson that comes right
• 1:15:52
  out of his mouth, I was just repeating, we're not called
• 1:15:54
  harder. If you would have looked at a
• 1:15:56
  dick, Are you would have known that but instead you're watching
• 1:15:59
  your you're trusting YouTubers to tell you the truth instead of
• 1:16:02
  trusting fact. I don't, I don't really have any
• 1:16:08
  more to say. So it was you think people don't
• 1:16:10
  want a? I think maybe your proof.
• 1:16:12
  Oh, I know we don't get that from this debate.
• 1:16:15
  So, where is your proof for your god?
• 1:16:19
  I've already said it several times but you know, I'll say it
• 1:16:22
  one more time. The fact that time space and
• 1:16:25
  matter exists is proof that it either a came into existence via
• 1:16:29
  Magic on caused or that be somebody caused it.
• 1:16:33
  What does it say about space and matter had to be outside of
• 1:16:36
  time, space and matter, Timeless spaceless immaterial and if it
• 1:16:38
  is timeless spaceless immaterial and could bring something as big
• 1:16:41
  as the ocean itself on this earth into existence that
• 1:16:44
  requires power. Power and intelligence to be
• 1:16:47
  able to design, life requires power and intelligence until
• 1:16:51
  what I eat intelligent design. It is Okay, explain to me how
• 1:16:59
  one out of one hundred thousand million million chances happen
• 1:17:01
  by chance, simply saying that Tom's face a monster exists is
• 1:17:05
  not good enough for me. Simply saying it says in the
• 1:17:08
  Bible, isn't good enough for me. And that's that's on you.
• 1:17:11
  That's not. I mean I already explained the
• 1:17:12
  model. If you want to reject the model,
• 1:17:14
  that's fine. I'm not rejecting the model.
• 1:17:16
  I must give evidence of the model gentlemen.
• 1:17:19
  Gentlemen, we were doing a 30-minute, open discussion and
• 1:17:23
  then went way over 30 minutes and I promise Katie both having
• 1:17:27
  patience and difference for that, but it's just going to go
• 1:17:30
  on and on and on. So, do we want to get to closing
• 1:17:37
  statements? Do we want to do a Q&A?
• 1:17:39
  How are you guys smoking with you and Amy Q8 sounds good.
• 1:17:44
  We have any questions in the chat?
• 1:17:47
  Now, mr. Jones, would you have any issue
• 1:17:50
  if I ask any questions. Not.
• 1:17:52
  So, okay, mr. Jones.
• 1:17:55
  If it is, not your belief that you come from rocks.
• 1:17:59
  Then what did you come from? If there was no God to guide it,
• 1:18:05
  I explained earlier on, I don't know much about it and I said
• 1:18:08
  this earlier on and I I think that the Erin are first is
• 1:18:16
  probably the best theory of where we came from.
• 1:18:21
  Okay, that's a abiogenesis. That's not evolution.
• 1:18:28
  Okay. Has anyone out there have the
• 1:18:31
  question that they want to ask? I mean, I myself I have
• 1:18:35
  questions but I want to give other people my opportunity.
• 1:18:44
  Let's see. I'm looking through here.
• 1:18:46
  We've got someone called d-57 that says that they want to ask
• 1:18:51
  a question. Totally.
• 1:18:55
  All right, while we're waiting for this person, do it.
• 1:18:57
  See you guys held up. You guys were talking about the
• 1:19:00
  surf and monkey incident earlier, right?
• 1:19:03
  You said that you guys were saying over 900 miles.
• 1:19:06
  There was this floating debris that basically, according to you
• 1:19:10
  had lettuce and plants on it and the monkeys were eating the very
• 1:19:14
  thing that they were floating are now, you know, they'll fit
• 1:19:18
  over my sister's me, right? Doesn't saltwater, destroy
• 1:19:21
  lettuce. And any of this material that
• 1:19:23
  you speak against didn't set up. Okay.
• 1:19:29
  What does that mean? How would you like to respond?
• 1:19:31
  I said a floating land mass and I wish me opening statements of
• 1:19:39
  the video was, was working properly, but it wasn't what I
• 1:19:43
  showed a massive land mass floating down the Panama Canal
• 1:19:48
  that actually block the Panama, Canal back in 2010 and it still
• 1:19:52
  add upright trees on it. This one must it's they could
• 1:20:00
  have just snapped away. I'm not saying it could.
• 1:20:02
  It could be what several meters thick.
• 1:20:04
  This long must have snapped away but we just simply don't know.
• 1:20:10
  Do you mind if I come in on it real quick?
• 1:20:11
  But of course, this is you guys debate, you do things where you
• 1:20:15
  want. Sure.
• 1:20:17
  So you know this, this whole theory that monkeys, you know,
• 1:20:20
  surfed on vegetation mats from Africa, South America, 34
• 1:20:23
  million years ago. Again, the study is actually
• 1:20:25
  based on a fossil and mr. Jones, you obviously, referenced
• 1:20:28
  this at the beginning of our debate or discussion that, you
• 1:20:32
  know, it's based on these fossils of these teeth that we
• 1:20:34
  found these molars. The problem is that
• 1:20:38
  fossilization And again is about conditions number one.
• 1:20:42
  And the number two, it would have been catastrophic lie,
• 1:20:44
  buried somehow. So, even if they did right
• 1:20:47
  across there on a raft, somehow they were catastrophically,
• 1:20:50
  buried to the point where their teeth are able to be preserved.
• 1:20:54
  And so, you know, just saying, well, we found some fossils of
• 1:20:58
  the certain animal over in South America, that didn't exist in
• 1:21:03
  that didn't exist in South America, they existed in Africa.
• 1:21:05
  That means that they must have floated across.
• 1:21:08
  You know, I am willing to submit, maybe they Order to
• 1:21:10
  cross, but in a catastrophic event and they were buried
• 1:21:13
  catastrophically, which is why we find the fossils.
• 1:21:15
  People always say, Well, they're trying to survive, we find him
• 1:21:17
  trying to get on vegetation, mats to survive.
• 1:21:20
  Yeah, they were running from the flood of Noah, they were trying
• 1:21:21
  to survive and they were catastrophic.
• 1:21:23
  We buried it. So, it perfectly fits my model.
• 1:21:25
  So, no matter how this game would be plenty to do not go to
• 1:21:28
  evolutionists way. So I did Congress.
• 1:21:31
  Got to Australia from Turkey. Well for one the am I allowed to
• 1:21:36
  answer that question about you guys are more than welcome to do
• 1:21:40
  whatever you like with it. Yeah.
• 1:21:42
  For one the sea level would have been much lower.
• 1:21:44
  If you lower the sea level, after the flood obviously would
• 1:21:49
  have been land bridges everywhere.
• 1:21:51
  So would be no problem for kangaroos to be able to Simply
• 1:21:55
  hop there would have been no problem for them.
• 1:21:58
  So that would be my answer to that.
• 1:21:59
  So why is it? It implausible from for monkeys
• 1:22:02
  to get from Africa to South America.
• 1:22:04
  And not implausible for kangaroos to get from Turkey to
• 1:22:09
  Australia because they've what they had, they didn't ride on a
• 1:22:13
  raft. Mr. Jones.
• 1:22:14
  They walked they have they hopped across.
• 1:22:20
  While the water was subducted, it wasn't as high as it is
• 1:22:25
  today, the sea level hadn't risen as much.
• 1:22:28
  Remember this is post-flood. Idiot, post-flood, they would
• 1:22:31
  have been able to get there. So the sea.
• 1:22:34
  So the sea levels were lower from cricket Australia, but they
• 1:22:37
  weren't law from Africa. The wrong in lower, in what the
• 1:22:41
  world you're confused, you're conflating two different models.
• 1:22:43
  So the gamma wh the creation model says, that there was a
• 1:22:48
  flood Devolution model says that the unit the kibbe present is
• 1:22:51
  the key to the past. So remember you've
• 1:22:52
  uniformitarianism, which means that these monkeys would have
• 1:22:55
  served across on water because it remembers peaceful Voyage,
• 1:22:59
  right? Because it, Isn't catastrophic
• 1:23:01
  according to Evolution. But according to my model, the
• 1:23:04
  way that those kangaroos would have gotten to Australia would
• 1:23:06
  have, they would have simply went via land bridges.
• 1:23:11
  That would connect from Australia to Turkey if you will.
• 1:23:16
  And so that would be the best answer on that.
• 1:23:21
  So, I'm getting ready for another Quest marsupials as
• 1:23:23
  well, the koala bears and they hot there as well to do.
• 1:23:28
  I'm not. What did you say?
• 1:23:30
  I'm sorry. Are you guys already?
• 1:23:31
  So plz, the other marsupials he koala bears.
• 1:23:34
  They hop there as well. Well, if there's land
• 1:23:37
  connecting, it wouldn't be implausible at all.
• 1:23:40
  They travel animal survive cones so why couldn't they have been
• 1:23:44
  land, connecting Africa to South America because in the in the
• 1:23:49
  model and I could pull up what the continents looked like back
• 1:23:53
  then, the continents would have looked like this 65 million
• 1:23:59
  years ago, only pull it up here. Let me just pull it over here.
• 1:24:08
  Yeah, this is what the continents would have looked
• 1:24:10
  like. So there were no land bridges.
• 1:24:14
  That you can see here. So was, yeah.
• 1:24:16
  But what along the edges from to get to Australia?
• 1:24:21
  Mr. Jones, I've explained this know you're right.
• 1:24:51
  Sea and land masses from Turkey to Australia.
• 1:24:55
  Yes, because this is an evolutionary assumption page,
• 1:24:57
  this is an evolutionary assumption Picture.
• 1:24:59
  This Is How They think it looks back then before.
• 1:25:01
  All right, then we'll simply picture with someone.
• 1:25:04
  Show me a picture with some land mass between turkey and
• 1:25:06
  Australia. I'm showing you what your model
• 1:25:10
  is. Is proposing here via 65 million
• 1:25:12
  years ago. I don't know if you can imagine
• 1:25:14
  you for evidence of your model, I've given you evidence of my
• 1:25:18
  model? No, you haven't where other one?
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  Assistant circuits, Australia, mr.
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  Jones in this discussion that we have to agree to disagree and we
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  have to move on and I'm sure there's no, I'm not asking you.
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  You just you just tried, debunking the Africa to South
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  America. I'm going to debunk now is
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  turkey to Australia business and other land masses from ticket.
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  Austerely at this, is your model show evidence of your model
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  people gentlemen. This is the Q and A section of
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  it for people to be able to ask the folks in the show questions.
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  And I will say this, this is not meant Pals page, he's showing
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  you what the evolutionists are saying.
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  That is what he said, three times.
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  I don't know if you guys are here in each other clearly or
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  what's happening here, but this was fed three times, but let me
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  ask, let me ask you yet again. This is his model kangaroos got
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  from Turkey to Australia, hopping on land masses.
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  Where is the evidence for this? I've already explained it the,
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  After the flood post-flood, the sea level would have been much
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  lower and if you bring the sea level lower, even just a few
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  hundred feet, you're going to start to see land everywhere.
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  Well, you either made corn, sope, facts and evidence.
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  That's what we would predict, that's what we would predict
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  post flood because of the water still running off of the, I sold
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  the land masses. They're under the water now.
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  We're going to keep answering this question.
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  I've answered this question now. For X, we need to move on.
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  We need to be professional and we need to move on.
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  No, I'm asking for evidence base guys.
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  The thing that I'm not understanding here is you're
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  saying you're wanting these land masses from a site that's about
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  Evolution but the issue is we were originally talking about
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  surfing monkeys, not land masses and all this close together.
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  It's a scientist that are claiming that it was Miles, they
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  traveled. So what is this?
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  Exactly? From either one of these, if you
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  don't mind me asking, what does this have to do with the surfing
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  monkeys? It's nothing, it has nothing to
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  do with it. Really has nothing to do with
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  it. Just it comes down to repeating
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  arguments that he's heard from other YouTubers about the
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  problem of kangaroos getting disconnect assumptions about me.
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  Okay. Yeah.
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  I don't really have anything else to say on this, I think
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  we've tried and we've tried to talk about it.
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  We need to just agree to move on mr.
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  Jones, but you know you said this, this is your slide here.
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  This your was slide That's all I want to say.
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  We have people in there asking questions.
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  You don't want to answer the question.
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  What did the that cause life to come into existence?
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  Walter water? Apparently, that's that's one of
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  the theories. So what kind of water was this
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  at the lightning hit? I'll probably take a guess at
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  H2O, okay? So my answer to this would be
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  that it's completely opposite. What they're what the evolution
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  model is saying is completely opposite.
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  To that of reality into what the Bible says, the Bible says that
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  life began on the land and that God breathed into man's
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  nostrils, the breath of life. He became a living soul and so
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  our model teaches that it began on land, their model teaches the
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  begin on water, but the reason we know it couldn't have
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  happened. Notice the wording here could
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  not have happened in the water and it is falsified is because
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  DNA breaks down in sunlight. In water RNA is pre-dna and if
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  the pre, if the Prebiotic process contained Water by
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  definition, its going to scatter the DNA molecules and not
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  assemble them. Okay, do we want to do closing
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  statements? All right, we should do
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  closings. You can go first, mr.
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  Jones. Do you go Fest?
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  I went postal. Then you want me.
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  Okay. Well, so overall I think a good
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  discussion. I want to thank mr.
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  Jones for challenging me to defend my position on these
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  matters. I do want to encourage people
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  that look into this stuff and look, I hope I haven't come off
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  as condescending or something, it's just that when I secure so
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  many falsehoods in one discussion or so many lies, I
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  feel like like I have to and I'm compelled by what the Bible
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  tells me to do which is to seek and promote truth to Simply
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  point out the errors and I think that I've done that today.
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  I think that the evolution model really does not have the
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  answers. As we I know it doesn't have the
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  answers mutation via selection creating these populations over
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  Generations is false. It is falsified proves that in
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  the beginning we started with a perfect genetic.
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  A code and then it got corrupted.
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  And then mutations have accumulated over time.
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  Decreasing the lifespan we die from mutations.
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  And so, I think that it's important to point out.
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  The Big Bang model is, is false to claim that all matter existed
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  in energy form in an infinitesimally.
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  Small dot is beyond absurd and does not have any scientific
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  backing in order for it to be science, it has to be
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  demonstratable testable and repeatable.
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  And like I said, if I'm wrong on any of these matters, I am
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  compelled by reason to change. And that's the difference
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  between my model and mr. Jones is model, is that
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  Evolution they're always going to come up with rescue devices
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  for it. When you point out, okay, water
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  could not have been what life started in because water
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  scatters RNA it scatters DNA. In fact, when the FBI does
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  research on people that have died when they do forensics,
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  they look at somebody that died in water versus Something that
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  died in the fire. The fire, the person that died
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  in fire is actually, they can trace the DNA better because
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  Fire doesn't scatter. The DNA molecules as much as
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  water. Does water scatters DNA when
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  somebody dies and water. It's hard.
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  A lot of times for forensic, people to identify what's going
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  on in their white because it scatters the DNA that means,
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  that life is more likely to start abiogenesis, the theory
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  who's proposing in this discussion is more likely to
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  happen in a grill. A hot fiery Grill, then in the
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  water? But people that don't think
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  about this, don't think through what they're saying they'll say
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  well bubblies bubbling within the broths of the ocean with
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  some chemical soup, I'm sorry. Chemicals, destroy life soup
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  destroys life. I'm sorry, our ancestor was not
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  can't bail soup. That got eroded off of some
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  granite rock. Our ancestors were Adam and Eve
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  Y chromosome. Adam mitochondrial eve.
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  And we can verify that they lived in the distant past via
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  mutation rates. And that there was a flood about
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  Thousand, five hundred years ago.
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  And I've shown the geological evidence of that.
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  And so in closing, I just want to encourage people that are
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  listening to do, the research. Don't believe what I'm saying,
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  simply do the research yourself and I think mr.
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  Jones would probably say the same thing.
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  So, mr. Jones, just want to say, thanks
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  for thanks for the invitation and I thought overall, it got
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  heated, but I did think it was a good discussion and I want to
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  wish you the best, take care. Mr. Jones, you to my own, thank
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  you for coming on and accepting the invitation to this
• 1:33:32
  discussion. I want to wish you and your
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  family and everybody at dinosaur Adventure Land, all the very
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  best on it. Really do mean that?
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  Let me see. I've heard an awful lot of
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  evolution bashing. I've heard a lot of Big Bang
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  Theory bashing but Genesis back. Jim Bob not heard any evidence
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  so far for God Only Time, space and matter, and, but I just
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  don't know. Yes, I've done research.
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  Yes, I went to Sunday school. When I was a kid, read the
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  Bible. And I question the Bible, when I
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  was a kid, you know. I know I asked I can snake stock
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  and, you know, and all the rest of Italy, the usual, the usual
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  stuff when you, when you were a child, What I've heard.
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  No evidence for and no evidence for creation.
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  Only God did it and it says it in the Bible that God did it.
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  But God, the Bible is the word of God.
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  But it's circular reasoning and and Matt said he has a problem
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  with circular hole. Certainly, there is a problem
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  with circular reasoning, so I honestly don't know.
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  I'm like, I say, I want to thank obviously, get Keen for Alston
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  this as well. And Yes, I do encourage people
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  to look into it because there is no scientific evidence for the
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  Supernatural and God is apparently Supernatural.
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  There's no scientific evidence for this none whatsoever that
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  there is no, there is no scientific evidence.
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  In the Bible, the Bible is factually incorrect.
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  The Bible describes, the Earth is flat and obviously we know
• 1:35:23
  that the Earth isn't flat Bible describes Wales as fish and
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  we're Know that they are not fish.
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  Why would God puts whales in the sea and make them breathe the
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  atmosphere. It seems crazy to me.
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  But, you know, I just like to obviously just finish on this
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  point. Yes.
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  Do your own research and come to your own conclusions.
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  What don't? It's difficult?
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  It's difficult. Yeah, just do your own research.
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  Come to your own conclusions. Yes, and I just wish everybody
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  the best everybody in the side chat.
• 1:36:03
  I wish mats and his family, all the best, which Brett keen and
• 1:36:06
  his family. All the very best and I hope you
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  live long and prosper prosperous lives and, you know, and just do
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  well in whatever you choose to do.
• 1:36:19
  And once again, thanks. Thank you to everybody.
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  Thanks to Matt. And thanks for Brett and thanks
• 1:36:24
  to everyone the side chat as well.
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  All right. Goodbye, ladies and gentlemen,
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  and God bless. She didn't recognize the Lord's.
• 1:36:42
  You Lord was standing right before, but then he said her
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  name and the moment that she a flame was lit within her, that
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  slow down Because there's an empty grave.
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  And This Heart of Mine believe the resurrection story asking.