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Bill Riley on Utah FB's non conference schedule and start times, Arkansas AD whining about late kickoff time + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 2: Bill Riley joins us, Hey Bill, Hey Sean.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about some things pertinent to Utah football. We
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  Speaker 1: got the kickoff times for the first couple of games
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  Speaker 1: of the season and the Arkansas Arkansas football team. The
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  Speaker 1: Arkansas Athletic Department displeased that their nine to fifteen Central
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  Speaker 1: time body clocks are going to be disturbed by playing
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  Speaker 1: a football game at rece Cycle Stadium. Hunter Yerchek, the
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  Speaker 1: athletic director, put out an impassioned statement via his social
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  Speaker 1: media that this would never happen to some of the
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  Speaker 1: other teams in the SEC.
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  Speaker 2: Does he have a legitimate gripe in your opinion, he
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  Speaker 2: does not.
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  Speaker 3: He gladly accepts every check that ESPN and Fox cut
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  Speaker 3: to the SEC and Arkansas. I love the fact that
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  Speaker 3: he said we might not get back home till five
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  Speaker 3: or six in the morning. Well, Sean, let me tell
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  Speaker 3: you about what life was like playing in the PAC
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  Speaker 3: twelve many a year. Many a time, I was pulling
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  Speaker 3: into my driveway at about five thirty or six in
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  Speaker 3: the morning after calling a game that went into the
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  Speaker 3: PAC twelve after dark. Realm, I have no time for this.
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  Speaker 3: This is just how it happens to fall. You chose
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  Speaker 3: to play Utah when you play a team that's not
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  Speaker 3: in your time zone, there's an opportunity that that may
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  Speaker 3: very well happen. And so there you go. Did you
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  Speaker 3: ever watch the television show mad Men?
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  Speaker 1: I never watched mad Men. I know I've missed the
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  Speaker 1: boat on that one.
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  Speaker 3: Well, go back and watch it. But here's what I
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  Speaker 3: will say. There's a famous meme that's come out of
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  Speaker 3: that show. John Hamm's character, the central character and the
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  Speaker 3: whole thing, screams at one of his subordinates who wanted
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  Speaker 3: more credit for a job that they were to do
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  Speaker 3: because he got all the credit. And he turns at
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  Speaker 3: them and yells, that's what the money is for. And
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  Speaker 3: that's what I would have turned and said to Hunter
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  Speaker 3: Eurosek if he was saying that to me, if I
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  Speaker 3: was Greg sank or ESPN. This is just part of
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  Speaker 3: the deal. Television dictates it. This is not something new
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  Speaker 3: to him. It just so happens. He's got back to
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  Speaker 3: back games where the times don't line up. But to
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  Speaker 3: answer your original question, no, he does not have a
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  Speaker 3: gripe about this. It's just how it plays out. They'll
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  Speaker 3: be fine, teams are resilient and he'll they'll find a way.
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  Speaker 3: But no, there's no gripe because the money is what
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  Speaker 3: it is, and television dictates everything.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like the when we got the announcement and
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  Speaker 1: the schedules we've we had already seen the times on
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  Speaker 1: these things were just released, but it brings back into
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  Speaker 1: you know, front of mind what the schedules are. The
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  Speaker 1: Big Twelve Conference doesn't really have a showcase game in
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  Speaker 1: Week one of the college football season, so reasonably you
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  Speaker 1: could go through the entire Week one slate on the
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  Speaker 1: weekend if you're you know, somebody sitting in like I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, New Jersey, or somebody sitting in Florida and
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  Speaker 1: just not even care to see a Big Twelve team,
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think the conference could necessarily afford to
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  Speaker 1: be in that position. It's easier said than done to
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  Speaker 1: make sure you're scheduling prominent games every single week, but
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  Speaker 1: it feels more important for Brett, your markin for the
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  Speaker 1: Big Twelve to stay diligent on that. And last year
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  Speaker 1: they obviously outsourced a rivalry game to Ireland in order
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  Speaker 1: to give that like a showcase to where at least
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  Speaker 1: you were on TV and you were part of the
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  Speaker 1: national conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Week one in the Big twelve. This year's not gonna happen.
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  Speaker 3: Bill, Well, I would I would push back. I think
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  Speaker 3: TCU North Carolina has some possibility there now. That game's
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  Speaker 3: in Dublin, and it does start at ten a m. America,
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  Speaker 3: a Mountain time, noontime back East, so it's not really
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  Speaker 3: a prime time. It's not one of those evening But
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  Speaker 3: I would tell you that Saturday August to twenty ninth,
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  Speaker 3: that is that technically week one? Or is that week zero?
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  Speaker 1: I think that's week zero because Week one Utah Utah
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  Speaker 1: actually starts a Thursday.
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  Speaker 3: As you're all, okay, Okay, so that's what you're okay,
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  Speaker 3: that's a week zero game. And I'm just kind of
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  Speaker 3: perusing the schedule here. Does Kansas Long Island not do
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  Speaker 3: it for you? Sean?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know me, I'm a die hard Long
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  Speaker 1: Island and Kansas fan, but.
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  Speaker 3: Well I'm looking at Houston Oregons then probably not. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you're right, there's not a lot of marquee. Well, no,
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  Speaker 3: I take that back. I'll push back on Auburn Baylor,
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  Speaker 3: two programs that probably look a little bit better on
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  Speaker 3: paper on the schedule sheet than maybe they will actually be.
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  Speaker 3: But it's being played at Mercedes Benz Stadium. It is
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  Speaker 3: a Big twelve school, so maybe a factor that in.
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  Speaker 3: But I do get your point. There aren't as many
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  Speaker 3: marquee games maybe as you would like in that very
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  Speaker 3: first week showcase. But then again, Indiana's playing North Texas,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Oregon, Well maybe Oregon Boise States one of
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  Speaker 3: those games. Tennessee's playing Furman. You know, I'm just looking
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  Speaker 3: down there. There's not a lot of great early matchups
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  Speaker 3: in that Week one really across the board.
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  Speaker 1: Well yeah, and that might be the number one thing
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  Speaker 1: to push back on. My own complaint is that when
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  Speaker 1: you look at Week one, it's like all of college
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  Speaker 1: football abdicated their responsibility to give us something intense in
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  Speaker 1: that first frame because there's not much even on the
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  Speaker 1: national landscape when it comes to the big time games.
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  Speaker 1: I was just double checking here to make sure. So
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  Speaker 1: Auburn finished third to last in the SEC last year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and uh so not one of their premier programs.
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  Speaker 2: Baylor was.
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  Speaker 1: Uh Baylor was was fifth in the Big twelve standings,
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  Speaker 1: So there you go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Kyle Whittingham's kicking off the Michigan era for
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  Speaker 3: him against Western Michigan, I think is who they play,
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  Speaker 3: so that game is gonna be I can I can't
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  Speaker 3: imagine NBC is thrilled about that.
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  Speaker 2: So you're You're right.
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  Speaker 3: Across the board, there's just not a lot of marquee matchups.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna be interesting to see though, as we move
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  Speaker 3: forward here, as the SEC is adding you know, taking
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  Speaker 3: away their their late season so con week where they
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  Speaker 3: take away the you know, they're taking away the cupcakes
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  Speaker 3: in November, and if we we really begin to ramp
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  Speaker 3: this thing up and expand the playoff, if if non
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  Speaker 3: conference scheduling becomes better across the board, if conferences look
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  Speaker 3: to add another, I don't know, another conference game in
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  Speaker 3: there somewhere, It'll be interesting to see moving forward if
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  Speaker 3: the playoff changes, if non conference early season games changed too.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you just brought up My next question is going
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  Speaker 1: to be about the conversation around further expanding the college
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  Speaker 1: football playoff.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently ESPN doesn't want it.
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  Speaker 1: The SEC can't decide if they want sixteen or stay
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  Speaker 1: at twelve, or maybe some people are okay with twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: The Big Ten says twenty four or bust. And at
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  Speaker 1: spring meetings, the Big twelve. The coaches voted unanimously to
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  Speaker 1: have it be a twenty four team college football playoff.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not fully on board with this yet, but I
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  Speaker 1: think I might have to get on board. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think of twenty four teams?
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  Speaker 3: I'm not thrilled with I talked about it this week
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  Speaker 3: on my podcast on the Crimson Corner. I'm just I'd
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  Speaker 3: like to see them take the next logic. We've only
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  Speaker 3: been at twelve now for two years, so I'd like
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  Speaker 3: to see them take the next logical step in a
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  Speaker 3: year or so and go to sixteen. That's what everybody
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  Speaker 3: else deals with. Division one, Double A, Division two, Division three, NAIA.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see what that does. I'm not sure. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I know what the twenty four is, adding more teams.
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  Speaker 3: The Big Ten also wants guarantee. You know, they're the
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  Speaker 3: ones pushing this, and then everybody else jumped on board. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I know the Big twelve is jumped on board. I
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  Speaker 3: know the ACC has two. But at least early iterations
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  Speaker 3: from Tony Patiti, he was talking about guaranteeing, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like six Big ten teams would be guaranteed, and the
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  Speaker 3: SEC would have six teams, and I think the Big
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  Speaker 3: twelve and the ACC, at least with early discussions, were
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  Speaker 3: to get three guaranteed teams in, and I just I
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  Speaker 3: don't like the idea of guaranteed teams. I want the
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  Speaker 3: best teams to be in there. I don't want you
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  Speaker 3: to be qualified because you were the fifth best team
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  Speaker 3: in the conference. I want the best twelve, sixteen, twenty four,
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  Speaker 3: and maybe we eventually get the twenty four Shawan. But
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to see this thing kind of play itself out,
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  Speaker 3: you know, go to sixteen and see what happens. I
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  Speaker 3: mean last year we had a little debate. Should Texas
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  Speaker 3: have been in? You know, should should Notre Dame have
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  Speaker 3: been in? Should be why you maybe have been in?
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  Speaker 3: Could you know if it was sixteen, Utah would have
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  Speaker 3: probably been in because they would have been fifteen in
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  Speaker 3: the final rankings. I don't think going to twenty four
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  Speaker 3: and expanding it that far out. I don't think you're
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  Speaker 3: excluding anybody at sixteen that's probably a legitimate national championship contender.
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  Speaker 3: And ultimately, in theory, that's what the tournament's for, is
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  Speaker 3: to determine a national championship. I know, in the real
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  Speaker 3: world it's about billing television dollars and creating more revenue
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  Speaker 3: for conferences. But to get back to your original point,
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  Speaker 3: I will probably eventually get there, and maybe we'll all
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  Speaker 3: love it once we get there. But for me, if
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  Speaker 3: you're going to expand from twelve, do we have to
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  Speaker 3: double the field or can we just take another baby
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  Speaker 3: step forward get to sixteen and see how it works.
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  Speaker 3: Where do you fall on it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 1: I think that you let what the current system is
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  Speaker 1: play out of it for a little longer, and if
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  Speaker 1: you're going to expand, probably go to sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: I love the FCS playoffs because they've they've worked it
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  Speaker 1: out this way for a long time. They've got a
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  Speaker 1: ton of participation in it. But as the Montana State
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  Speaker 1: fail and the Weeper State fans will point out to you, like,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of first round blowout games in those
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  Speaker 1: FCS playoffs, there's a lot of second round blowout games.
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  Speaker 1: And the way that their seeding works, right, if you're
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  Speaker 1: one of the top teams in the country, you get
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  Speaker 1: that first round by And I'm trying to apply that
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  Speaker 1: to last year's final rankings. Nobody really wants to see
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  Speaker 1: a Week one of the college football playoff. No one
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  Speaker 1: is demanding to see Ohio State play against TCU. No
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  Speaker 1: one's demanding to see in the second week Oregon, who
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  Speaker 1: got their first round by play against a two lane
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  Speaker 1: team that made it through their first game.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, do you actually want these games? And I
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  Speaker 1: think the answer is no. Now, the conferences might want
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  Speaker 1: the money, but do the fans want the games? Maybe
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  Speaker 1: so you have another game on campus, but no one's
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  Speaker 1: really champing at the bit to see some of these
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  Speaker 1: matchups that.
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  Speaker 2: We would have had.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say this though, Yeah, I think fans
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  Speaker 3: college football fans. I think you and I would both
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  Speaker 3: count ourselves as college football fans. If those games are on,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to watch them. Now, are we going to
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  Speaker 3: watch four quarters of them? Maybe not, because if they
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  Speaker 3: turn out into a blowout, we probably won't. But I
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  Speaker 3: think you and I will both sit down in front
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  Speaker 3: of the TV when a college football playoff game is
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  Speaker 3: on and watch it just to see what it looks like.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe occasionally you get one of those group of
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  Speaker 3: five schools, a two lane or even a less known
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  Speaker 3: power for school. They can make some noise, but to
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  Speaker 3: your point, probably more often than not, those early round games.
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  Speaker 2: Especially if you go to.
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  Speaker 3: Or at least a handful of those early round games
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  Speaker 3: in a field of twenty four, are probably going to
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  Speaker 3: be lopsided affairs.
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  Speaker 2: Bill Riley is the voice of the youths.
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  Speaker 1: Not so long until you get to hear them calling
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  Speaker 1: actual Utah football again.
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  Speaker 2: We just got to make it LEAs.
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  Speaker 3: I believe ninety seven days is where we're at. Ninety
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  Speaker 3: seven days, thirteen weeks and six days from today will
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  Speaker 3: be at the Ricycle Stadium.
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  Speaker 1: I will hold my breath until then. Actually I can't
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  Speaker 1: do that for ninety seven whole days. Bill, have a
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  Speaker 1: great weekend, appreciate your time.
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  Speaker 3: You do show Upot you soon.
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