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Ian Furness 9/22 H3: John Lund, talkbacks & FoF, plus a visit from Softy! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: That's coming up in about 35 minutes. Week 2 of
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  Speaker 2: the NFL wrapped up. 28-6 Rams win over the Giants.
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  Speaker 2: Guess it helped that the Rams didn't have to travel.
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  Speaker 2: The news coming out of that, by the way, is
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  Speaker 2: not good for the New York Giants. Does sound now
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  Speaker 2: like Jackson Dart's going to miss an extended period of time,
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  Speaker 2: maybe even the rest of the season. Seahawks tomorrow get
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  Speaker 2: back on the practice field. Mike McDonald said that quarterback
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  Speaker 2: Sam Donald could be practicing ahead of the schedule. We'll see.
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  Speaker 2: M's begin the final week of the regular season tonight.
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  Speaker 2: T-Mobile Arena, Astros in town, game time 640. Rangers play
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  Speaker 2: host to the Mets. They win, Mariners lose. It's over officially.
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  Speaker 2: Not like it isn't already over. It's kind of over. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we painted the picture of the three-way tie.
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  Speaker 2: Because this is a show that is glass half full.
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  Speaker 3: Optimistic. That's what they call us.
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  Speaker 2: Glass half full. All right. Hit it.
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  Speaker 1: It's time for Ian's weekly visit with John Lund, Unleashed,
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  Speaker 1: the Bay Area rock star who Ian's been kicking around
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of decades. They'll be talking NFC West,
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  Speaker 1: the Niners, and the Hawks. Sponsored by Chambers Bay Distillery. Landcrafted, ocean-aged,
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  Speaker 1: Chambers Bay Distillery tasting room at University Place Town Center
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  Speaker 1: with bar seats, table seats, We've.
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  Speaker 2: Come a long way, Ashley. We've come a long way
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  Speaker 2: on this show with the John Lund Show. We've come
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  Speaker 2: a long way. Did you hear what I just heard?
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  Speaker 2: That's right. There's now a sponsor attached to the John
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  Speaker 2: Big shout out and thanks to our friends at Chambers
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  Speaker 2: open for you. They've got trivia tonight, craft cocktails made
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  Speaker 2: with Chambers Bay distillery spirits, bourbon, vodka, gin, ghost pepper, whiskey,
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  Speaker 2: all down there in UP University Place. Lund, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think there's a better, more appropriate sponsor for you than
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  Speaker 2: the makers of some fine, fine, fine spirits here in
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  Speaker 2: the Northwest, Chambers Bay Distillery. I'll have one of everything.
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  Speaker 2: I just heard, I just heard gin tequila. Like I
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  Speaker 2: I'll do a, you know, I'll do that. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I heard all of them.
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  Speaker 4: And they, you know, they're like, you texted me before
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  Speaker 4: and you said, Hey, do you, we're going to get
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  Speaker 4: a booze sponsor. And I was like, first of all,
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  Speaker 4: that's perfect. And then second of all, you said, what's
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  Speaker 4: your preference?
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  Speaker 2: And I said, everything like, you know, like, let's go, man.
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  Speaker 2: Long Island, nice tea. They just put everything in it.
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  Speaker 2: They throw it all in it. Are you, no, you,
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  Speaker 2: are you a bourbon guy? You're a bourbon guy, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Love bourbon. Yeah. They're bourbons. Big whiskey bourbon. Yep. Their
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  Speaker 2: bourbons are absolutely, absolutely sensational. I'll just tell you that. Their,
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  Speaker 2: their bourbons are, are, they're, they're, they're, they're, uh, Chambers
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  Speaker 2: Bay Distillery straight bourbon. Phenomenal. Their, uh, Madera cask finished bourbon. Great.
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  Speaker 2: And if you can find the captain's reserve, even better.
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  Speaker 2: These guys are, they're great and they're great people. Alan
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  Speaker 2: and Jeff, I should just point out every year at
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  Speaker 2: my golf tournament, they come out and they bring the
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  Speaker 2: little whiskey wagon. They serve a complimentary, they serve charity
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  Speaker 2: cocktails and, These guys are phenomenal. But the Captain's Reserve bourbon,
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  Speaker 2: I've just got like a little bit left in the
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  Speaker 2: old liquor shelf right now. That'll be for a special
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  Speaker 2: time at some point. But, yeah, man, big thanks to
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  Speaker 2: our friends at Chambers Bay Distillery. They've got a tribute
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  Speaker 2: tonight down there at the tasting room off Bridgeport. So
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  Speaker 2: go check it out. And, yes, Lund, sponsored by a
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  Speaker 2: company that makes some of the best bourbon that you'll
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  Speaker 2: ever find. That's very, very good. Yeah, it's appropriate. Very appropriate.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll be on my way. I'm going to the
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  Speaker 2: airport right now. Let's go. Ready to go. Ready to
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  Speaker 2: meet these people. They've got to be the smartest people alive.
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  Speaker 2: They are. Alan and Jeff, even though they're Huskies, we
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  Speaker 2: love them anyway. Very smart dogs. Very smart dogs. Ashley,
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  Speaker 2: John did some homework for us. He sent me some
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  Speaker 2: pictures from the game on Sunday. Since it's radio, they
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  Speaker 2: can't see the pictures, but do you want to go
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  Speaker 2: ahead and explain the three pictures or the two pictures
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  Speaker 2: in the video you sent you, dipstick?
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  Speaker 4: I was going to do this whole big thing on
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  Speaker 4: all these dumb Seahawks fans, but then I started drinking
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  Speaker 4: and I forgot.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, eh, I'm not going to do that.
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  Speaker 2: But I did, I will say this.
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  Speaker 4: So the, the girl that was sitting in front of
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  Speaker 4: us had a Gino Smith Jersey. And I kept giving
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  Speaker 4: her grief the whole time. I'm like, Oh my God,
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  Speaker 4: what are you? And then a guy next about a
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  Speaker 4: section over had a Rick Meyer on. And I did
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  Speaker 4: have enough beverages to go update your Jersey, Rick Meyer.
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  Speaker 4: And he kept looking back like, dude, he was picked
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  Speaker 4: number two in 1993. Like Can somebody get that guy
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  Speaker 4: a Seahawks jersey for Christmas or something?
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  Speaker 2: Like Rick Meyer, really? My God, I can't even do
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  Speaker 2: the math. What's that, 33 years ago? That'd be 33 years.
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  Speaker 2: That's 30. What, you couldn't find your Dan McGuire? What's
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  Speaker 2: going on with.
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  Speaker 1: You, dude?
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  Speaker 2: If you're going to wear a jersey from the 80s
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  Speaker 2: or 90s, it better say Largent. Right? Right. Maybe Jim Zorn. Easley, Largent, Craig.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you can get away with... You know what? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you... I did see a lot.
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  Speaker 4: I saw Cortez Kennedy, which was cool. I saw, like
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  Speaker 4: you said, lots of Largent.
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  Speaker 2: I saw.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of throwbacks, a lot of Kenny Easley. Yeah, there were
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  Speaker 2: some people who had some taste in there. The one
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  Speaker 2: video that I sent you was... Oh, God. I got
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  Speaker 2: to show this to Ashley. This is the.
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  Speaker 4: This is probably the cardinal sin of all cardinal sins.
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  Speaker 4: This dude had a 71, a Walter Jones.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, respect. And then he turned around.
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  Speaker 2: He was walking towards me. And I turned around.
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  Speaker 4: He had put his own last name on the back
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  Speaker 4: of a 71.
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  Speaker 2: Like, dude.
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  Speaker 4: You're not Walter Jones. And plus he was about five.
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  Speaker 4: He was like five, eight, three 40. Like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the weight could have worked on the offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: That shouldn't matter. I said, you know what? Scratch that
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  Speaker 2: from the record.
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  Speaker 4: Personal appearances are not show fodder, but it was like, dude,
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  Speaker 4: you're not Walter Jones. Like you, like you just put
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  Speaker 4: your name on the back of 71.
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  Speaker 2: If I was, if I was bigger, stronger, tougher.
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  Speaker 4: And All that kind of stuff, I would have fought him.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the video you sent me, you were chirping him
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. Could he hear you? I could hear
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  Speaker 2: you on the video.
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  Speaker 4: I would stand right next to him and I'd go,
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  Speaker 4: I don't remember what I said. I'd been probably drinking
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  Speaker 4: too much. But like, putting your own name on a 71,
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  Speaker 4: that's a good one. His buddy was staring at me
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever. The mean streets of Glendale, buddy. You better be
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  Speaker 2: careful there. The mean streets of Glendale. Speaker 0 5,0
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  Speaker 2: It's not exactly candlestick there.
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  Speaker 4: It's not exactly like if you're a Cardinals fan, you're
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  Speaker 4: in the minority.
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  Speaker 2: I walked for about three blocks from my car. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't see, this is the wildest thing. I didn't see
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  Speaker 2: one Cardinals fan.
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  Speaker 4: Everything was Seahawks and everyone was doing that obnoxious.
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  Speaker 2: See Hawks.
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  Speaker 4: It was like, okay, we get it. You're playing the Cardinals.
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  Speaker 4: Don't don't rile yourself up too much for this game.
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  Speaker 2: But there I walked three blocks. I did not see
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  Speaker 2: one Cardinal Jersey or anything that anyone be a Cardinals fan.
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  Speaker 4: And the funniest thing was The, you know, those tables
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  Speaker 4: that they, they sell the illegal stuff.
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  Speaker 2: You would think it would be a Cardinals table. It
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  Speaker 2: was a Seahawks.
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  Speaker 4: They were like three Seahawks tables. They're selling Seahawks stuff
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  Speaker 4: like right.
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  Speaker 2: Across the street. There was no Cardinals. Like there was
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  Speaker 2: no bootleg Cardinals stuff. It was all bootleg Seahawks. The
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  Speaker 2: place was 80% Seahawks fans. It was unbelievable. Like the
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  Speaker 2: JSN touchdown, the roof came off the.
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  Speaker 4: Place on the JSN touchdown, like second play of the game.
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  Speaker 2: You could hear the Seahawks chants through the TV on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: I just counted it.
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  Speaker 3: It sounded like a quiet home game.
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  Speaker 2: It did. Very quiet. That's a great way to put it.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it is. That's what it is. I think
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  Speaker 2: I just counted it up. I went to, I covered
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  Speaker 2: 12 Seahawks Cardinals games in that building, ending in 2023.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And no word of a lie, I don't think it
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  Speaker 2: ever was more than 60% Cardinal fans, ever. And there
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  Speaker 2: were times it was 70-30 Seattle fans. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if the Cardinals go through that with everybody, but
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  Speaker 2: it felt very L.A. Chargers-like in that regard. And that was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, before the L.A. Chargers moved to L.A., it
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  Speaker 2: felt like that. It was always a Seahawks home game,
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  Speaker 2: and they have dominated for the most part that team.
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  Speaker 2: So that's not a surprise. What did you think of
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  Speaker 2: the game itself?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, I was a little bit surprised in
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  Speaker 4: the first half that, you know, it's seven, seven, the
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  Speaker 4: Cardinals have no offense whatsoever. That it dissipated really quickly.
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  Speaker 4: Cause there, there was the only reason they were even
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  Speaker 4: any Cardinals fans was because they had a decent game
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  Speaker 4: against the Cardinals. And so those, most of those people
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  Speaker 4: who would sell those tickets went, ah, maybe we're something
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  Speaker 4: they were terrible.
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  Speaker 2: Now, having said that Seattle's.
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  Speaker 4: Defense, they don't need a designated pass rusher or anything.
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  Speaker 2: Like they get so much push from the middle. And
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  Speaker 2: I was watching just the lines.
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  Speaker 4: It's, you know, they get so much push from the
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  Speaker 4: middle with Murphy and, and Leonard Williams that it's great.
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  Speaker 4: But those outside guys get, cause they're singled all the time.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, the Cardinals don't have any offensive line. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's just really impressive.
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  Speaker 2: They don't miss tackles. They're really aggressive.
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  Speaker 4: They're coached so well. And then I'm sure you've talked
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  Speaker 4: a ton about it, but I mean, to have drew
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  Speaker 4: lock in the first two games, walk in and do that.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't care who you're playing, man.
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  Speaker 4: It's the NFL to have him be that efficient, especially
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  Speaker 4: on a day in which Jackson dart, you were just
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  Speaker 4: talking about, it gets knocked out. Jamis Winston is horrible.
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  Speaker 4: Like Jamis Winston is is a great personality at this point.
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  Speaker 4: Like go be something, go, go be a personality somewhere.
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  Speaker 4: We need that in media. You're not a quarterback anymore.
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  Speaker 4: And sometimes what happens is if you got this great
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  Speaker 4: job holding the clipboard, then all of a.
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  Speaker 2: Sudden you got to play and he just horrible.
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  Speaker 4: So, I mean, for some teams, that's, you know, that's
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  Speaker 4: what they've got in New York is going to, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it's just, it's week two. They're going to have to
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  Speaker 4: find a quarterback because he can't play. So for Seattle
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  Speaker 4: to go in like that and have drew lock, do
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  Speaker 4: what he did. I mean, that move by Jason was
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  Speaker 4: like criminal, but you know, just to throw the ball
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  Speaker 4: the way that he did, that that's, that's a great
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  Speaker 4: luxury to have.
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  Speaker 2: Cardinals, by the way, did find out again that one, just,
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  Speaker 2: In case they needed to be reminded, they're still the Cardinals.
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  Speaker 2: Week one, getting carried away with different things. You're still
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  Speaker 2: the Cardinals. You're not very good. The division is still
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  Speaker 2: a three-team division. We found that out with Seattle getting
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  Speaker 2: that win. look at our friends, the 49ers, my God.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they, that's exactly what good teams do. All
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  Speaker 2: joking aside, that's what good teams do is what they
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  Speaker 2: did to Miami, right? That's exactly what you do. You
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  Speaker 2: just like, let's, let's take any doubt out. Let's just
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  Speaker 2: put them away, be done with it. And, and I mean,
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  Speaker 2: just an absolute ass kicking. And I I'm just, it's
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  Speaker 2: these two teams. And then, oh boy, our friends, the
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  Speaker 2: Rams decided to show up now. I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: much credit we give the Rams. They look good. And
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  Speaker 2: Devontae Adams is great. No Puka Nakua. But, John, that
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  Speaker 2: game changed. Like, the Giants couldn't move the football. Like,
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  Speaker 2: no Jackson Dart. That was a different football game. And
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  Speaker 2: then Neighbors goes out for a while with whatever he
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  Speaker 2: had going on. I mean, that's just– I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how much stock I put in what I saw last night.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I give Stafford credit. I mean, he–
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  Speaker 4: you know, after that first game, a lot of people were–
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  Speaker 4: you know, he threw a hut for 155 against the 49ers.
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  Speaker 2: So a lot of people were giving him grief. He
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  Speaker 2: threw for three 27. The only, they didn't have Puka
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  Speaker 2: in that game.
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  Speaker 4: So they had Devante Adams. And I think what happened
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  Speaker 4: sometimes is we all forget how good Devante Adams is
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  Speaker 4: a first ballot hall of Famer and touchdown records, all
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  Speaker 4: that stuff led the league last year, I think with 13,
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  Speaker 4: he's really good. But like you said, the giants, I
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  Speaker 4: expected more out of them defensively. They've they've accumulated.
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  Speaker 2: High draft picks on the defensive side of the ball
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  Speaker 2: for a long time. And they just can't play.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, typical, the kid out of Oregon that y'all
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  Speaker 4: know there, and he looked like a monster as a freshman.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't do anything. Abdul Carter's okay.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the Arville Reese, the kid that got out
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  Speaker 4: of Ohio state, like they should be much better than
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  Speaker 4: they are defensively. And they're just not, they should have
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  Speaker 4: been able to stay in that game a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: And after dart left, You know, they just, they couldn't
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  Speaker 4: do it.
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  Speaker 2: So you're right. It's the jury's still out on them.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Aaron Donald, I will say this about Aaron Donald.
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  Speaker 2: He looked quick. He tired fast. He's 35. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But in terms of his quickness off the ball, he
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  Speaker 4: looked like he was quick. You know, that that's the
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  Speaker 4: one thing, but yeah, I mean, look, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I hope because after the game, uh, Sean McVay came
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  Speaker 4: out and said, Hey, you know, I screwed, basically I
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  Speaker 4: screwed up in that whole thing. And, you know, I,
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  Speaker 4: I shouldn't have, you know, we shouldn't have gone into
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  Speaker 4: Australia like that. But the way I saw that was
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  Speaker 4: the way this is how people are interpreting that here
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  Speaker 4: is that they're taking credit away from the 49ers. In
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  Speaker 4: other words, hey, if I had not been so stupid,
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  Speaker 4: we'd have won that game. And it's like, look, I
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  Speaker 4: think they have a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of work to do. I really do.
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  Speaker 4: And something's going on with Puka Nakua. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: what it is, but, you know, reporter instincts. Something weird's
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  Speaker 4: going on there.
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  Speaker 2: Something very weird. Well, he's weird, and something weird's going
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  Speaker 2: on with him. And, yeah, the hip injury and whatever
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  Speaker 2: that is. The unfortunate thing is they do have Devontae.
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  Speaker 2: Cardinals get the 49ers in Santa Clara this week, so
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  Speaker 2: that should be a 3-0 start for San Francisco. Rams
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  Speaker 2: go to the Broncos. That's going to be a Sunday
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  Speaker 2: night game. That's a crazy interesting game. Broncos looked like
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  Speaker 2: garbage week one. Looked a lot better last week. Rams,
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  Speaker 2: exactly the same thing. Garbage week one, really good last week.
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  Speaker 2: It's way early, but... someone's going to come out of
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  Speaker 2: there one and two, and both those teams both had
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  Speaker 2: designs on winning a division. And, oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: if you're the Broncos, you've got a little team you've
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  Speaker 2: got to worry about called the Chiefs that look pretty good,
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  Speaker 2: and the Rams have two teams to worry about in
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  Speaker 2: front of them. They can't afford another loss.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, the thing about, I don't know what
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  Speaker 4: you've seen from Denver, but I just, I just think
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  Speaker 4: Bo Nix just isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: And he just hasn't looked great.
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  Speaker 4: And usually what happens is after you have a season
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  Speaker 4: in which you win a bunch of close games, that
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  Speaker 4: tends to even itself out. There's no logic behind that
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  Speaker 4: or analytics or anything, but it just does. And they
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  Speaker 4: want a bunch of last second games with Bo Nix.
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  Speaker 2: He just doesn't look the same. Defensively, Denver's a good team.
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  Speaker 2: There's no doubt.
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  Speaker 4: Denver's a good team defensively, but for.
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  Speaker 2: This is a second year in a row.
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  Speaker 4: Now they don't run the ball. They're 27th and rushing yards.
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  Speaker 4: They just, they weren't good running the ball last year.
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  Speaker 4: And if you want to play the game of play defense,
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  Speaker 4: run the ball, they just don't have the ability to
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: do that. Now, having said that we're going to all
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: play them in the, in short order, you know, that's the,
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: you know, that's the whole thing that's coming up. And
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: then of course, you know, we're going to see each
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: other after this next week. And I think the Niners
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: are just, they're just, you know, no offense to the Cardinals,
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: but Cardinals can't play. So what that advantage gives the
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: 49ers is, coaches never say this, but they do it.
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: They keep an eye to that next one because that
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: Seattle game for the 49ers is massive.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: Massive game, no doubt. John Lund joining us, brought to
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: you by Chambers Bay Distillery. How much trouble are the
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: Bears in right now, do you think? Another team that
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: had designs on winning the NFC, and now Caleb's got
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: an alley, apparently. We thought he was maybe going to
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: have to get put down or something, but he's okay.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: I mean... Oh, my God. People mocking him so bad
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: right now for that. And then, you know, their backups hurt.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: By the way, that's one of the best memes I've
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: ever seen in my life. Like, you know, me getting
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: out of bed and, you know, stepping on a Lego.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's hundreds right now. Do you ever do
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: that thing where you sit there for like 10 minutes?
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: Kids do it all day long, but you sit there
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: for like 10 minutes.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: You're like, what am I doing? Like you scroll.
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: And I did that this morning where I was like,
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: I was busy.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: I had things to do.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: But the memes were so good on Caleb Williams. You know,
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: it's like, you know, I mowed the lawn and it
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: was 82 degrees. I mean, they just won after the other,
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: after the other of hilariousness with Caleb Williams.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: I'd hate if that guy was my quarterback. There was
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: a great thing last night. There was a preseason game
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: with the Islanders and Flyers, I think, in the NHL.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: And Kyle Pellimeri, one of the players for the Islanders.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: So they show him in the corner. He's in pain.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: He's trying to stand up. The play goes the other end.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: In one play, he stole the puck, sent a guy
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: ahead for a goal. So he got a takeaway, he
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: got an assist, and apparently he also tore his ACL.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: And the guy, I think the beat writer for the Islanders,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: like Kyle, he did all those three things. Actually, he said,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: he's in the corner crying right now because he might
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: have hurt his knee. And he goes, actually, just kidding.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: He's in the corner trying to stand up after stealing
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: the puck and getting assists and skating off on his
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: own with a torn ACL. and just making fun of
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams and like all these NFL writers, like Albert Brewer,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: that's not right. Bah, bah, bah. Like, shut up. It's
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: totally right. It's totally do. It's totally right. You cannot,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: you cannot go off the field like that.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: Put the towel over your head. Cause that, that's become
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: a thing.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Like you're off the field. And then what happens is you.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: You put the towel over your head and that gives
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: an indication to the crowd. Like this is a season ender.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: This is an Achilles. This is me.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Like, That's what you're telling the crowd. And then he
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: did that for a hamstring strain in which he might
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: miss one to two weeks.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, no, no, no. But that's the USC guy.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's, that's what they do. God, who do
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: you ride? See, I'm Hollywood fight on fight on. I'm
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: rooting for you. I'm rooting for USC this week against Oregon,
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: by the way. That's I'm, I'm, I'm going down. Damn
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Dan Lennox. Yeah, that's true. Dan Lennox. It's adult, man.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: That guy's just a knucklehead. I'm done with scoring 84. Like, yeah.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: By the way, if you're Portland State, they've scored.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: 81 and 84 on you. Look, I'm not smart. I'm
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: not an athletic director. I don't know. Maybe don't play
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Oregon anymore. How about that? Aren't you the former sideline
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: reporter for Portland State? Yes.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: I did Portland State sidelines very well. Very well. I
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: was like, who's going to say that? Clarissa Thompson, you
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: just make stuff up. I did that all the time. Like, well,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: this is what he just told me. No, he didn't.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: He didn't even come over to you. I think Tim
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Walsh was the coach, and I know he didn't like you,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: so I'm sure he probably never talked to you. So, yeah.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I just talked to Coach Walsh. No, you didn't. He
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: just said this, this, this, and this. I know. He
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: would just glare at me from across the field. I'd
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: start walking towards him. He would just glare at me like,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: are you kidding me? I'm not talking to you. Wouldn't
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: you be insane? We're down 48-0 to Montana. I'm not
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: talking to your ass. That's not going to happen. 81 points.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Oregon just scored 81 points on us. Yeah, let me
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: go talk to you. Yeah, those guys aren't doing that.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: There's just no chance. John Lund joining us. Yeah, who's
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: in the most trouble in the NFC, do you think?
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Because 0-2, we can always look at those numbers and say, well,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: it's this, this, and this. But who's in the most
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: trouble right now? Is it Tampa Bay at 0-2? Oh yeah.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: You know, but yeah. Yeah.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, they could, they could come back, but the
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: saints look like they might be something. I'm not going
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: to mention that Shucks from Oregon, but I mean, you know,
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: they might be something and they look, they look good
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: at least through the first.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Couple of games. And then, you know, the Bucs are
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: in trouble. I don't know. I'm going to hold out
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: on the Rams a little bit just to see.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to call them trouble, but, you know,
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: their expectations are Super Bowl or bust, right?
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, have they been that in the first two games?
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. I'm just saying it against expectations.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: I just haven't seen it. God, just Denver. Can you
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: imagine if Denver gets a win over them? How fantastic
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: that would be? I think they could. Oh, God. Seattle's
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: got to go to D.C. They're taking on your friend
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota this weekend. That's a layup. I mean, I mean,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I got into it today with somebody over Jane Daniels.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Cause you know, everybody loves to talk about.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Brock Purdy here and where does he rank as a quarterback?
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't care. But after I got beyond that,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: somebody was talking about Jane Daniels. I'm like, you know,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I hate to be so simple.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: But he looks like RG three, just, he's not big enough.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: And we're seeing quarterbacks and.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: This happens every year, but he overreacts to it, but
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: we're seeing quarterbacks going out.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: We were just talking about Caleb Williams and, but you know,
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: Jane Daniels is going down.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: There's a ton of guys.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: You just mentioned Bajan. He's the backup has a concussion.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Now Darnold's already out.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just, even guys who.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: Are built to do this, that are big, you know, six, four,
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: 230 pound guys.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Dan was just too small, you.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Know, and it looked like for a minute there that
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: they were going to be something in the NFC and
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: they just, they're not, they just, they can't keep the
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: kid healthy.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: It's too bad. All right. First one with the new
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: sponsor in the books. I don't think you offended anybody,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: not that I know of, that would make them mad,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: so that's good. I think Alan and Jeff would be
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: cool with that. Well, they don't start sending me some whiskey, like, post-haste. Like,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: you know, then we're going to have trouble. I'm just kidding.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I love them. I love them dearly. So bourbon, vodka,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: and gin are their spirits. No tequila, sorry, but they
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: got bourbon. I'm all right with that. So, yeah. I'm
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: all right with that. Your preference is bourbon, I'm assuming, correct? Yes, 100%. But,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: you know, like I said, it's, you know— whatever. You
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: think I'm picky? Do you think I, you know, I
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: look like this because I'm picky. I look terrible. And
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: that's mainly because of, you know, booze is false. I
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: do know.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: No, that's just one of our, we just know, I mean,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to pull people, you know, try to think,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: cause I don't want to set expectations. I'd like to
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: set expectations. Like what people do, especially from Seattle, like.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: They'll, they'll look me up for some reason. Don't do that.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: And then they'll be like, Oh my God.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, I told, I tried to tell you,
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: I'm not setting expectations.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: You're not talking to Brad Pitt here. Okay. You're talking
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: to the elephant man, you know? I know, I know.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I'm a human being. I know, I know. Well, you
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: tricked that fangirl into marrying you at one point. So,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I'm still trying to figure
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: that one out. Yeah, I don't know how that happened.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: It was all my money and, you know, all that stuff.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Big time radio talent in Portland. I think that's what
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: it was. Yeah, I think they paid me like 60 there. Woo!
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: crushing it.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Uh, we'll talk to you next week, buddy. Are you
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: doing a national stuff this weekend too? Are you national? Yeah.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Dude, college Saturday and Sunday with college ball. I'm on from, uh,
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: let's see Seattle time. I'm on from, uh, get off
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: one to five and.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: We just do this show. That's just like, it just
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: bounces where those shows like on ESPN, they do the weekends.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: It just bounces from place to place.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: That's what happened. That, that NC state Vandy game was
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: right in the middle of the show. How about that? How,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: how I have 80. Yeah.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: It's like, I have ADD and they're putting me on
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: this show and it's like, What just happened? I'm watching
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: it with no sound, and I'm like, what just happened
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: in Vanderbilt, North Carolina State?
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I've got to get fired. Anyway, that's a whole other story.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Whole other story. All right. We'll talk to you next week, buddy.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Take care. Bye, brother. Thank you, man. John Lund, brought
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: to you by Chambers Bay Distillery. Ashley has a factor
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: fiction pick moments away. College football's been ruined.
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: I just don't like the way John Heisman had Georgia
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: Tech run up 200 points on.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: That damn Cumberland State. I ain't going to watch it
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: ever again.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Well played. Well played. Very well played. Continue. Hey, Ian,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: serious question.
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: If the Huskies and the Cougs is the Apple Cup
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: and the Huskies going to play Eastern Washington every year,
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: What should we call the Husky-Eastern Washington game? The Cherry Pits,
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: or what do you got?
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Cherries would be Wenatchee. Maybe Yakima, so no.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: It's a tough one.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: How about unwatchable?
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: We got one more.
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: Hey, Drew Locke here. Wow, holy smokes, what a win, huh? Four-minute,
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: two-minute offense.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: We did it. I love being here in Seattle. Why
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: would you want to leave here?
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: Why would you want to force your way out and
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: play for someone else and think you're better, you know?
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: Because the separation comes from the preparation. You know, live
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: with purpose, play with purpose.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: You know, let's ride.
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: And all these people saying they can trade me, you
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: can't trade Drew because you know why?
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Seattle, we got a deal already. Drew Locke, baby. Drew
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Locke sounding like Russell Wilson. I don't like it.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: I think Drew Locke needs to sound more like, if anybody,
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: Sam Darnold.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Because he got a lot of help from Sam last week.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like that at all. I don't like
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Drew trying to channel his inner Russ.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: No, I like my Drew to be his own person.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I'm going to remember that. If things don't go well Sunday,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I'm going to remember that talk back right there. That's
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: bad karma. That is bad karma right there. All right,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: let's get some text. 49451 real quick before we go.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Let's see. 425. What a refreshing change from yesterday. Joe
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Sheen is knowledgeable and also informed and reasonable. Your flamethrowers
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: from your Monday show may appeal to the fire. Everybody's zealots,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: but Joe is much more listenable. That's Terry from Redmond.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Those guys are not flamethrowers of the Molly Whoppers and
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: show them some respect.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Put some respect on their names.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Put some respect on their names. Goodness me. Let's see.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: All right. This is Quinn. As insanely annoying and frustrating
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: traitor Jerry is, whenever words come out of his mouth,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I hate saying he, quote, deserves another shot, but I
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: do believe it continues to be our best opportunity at
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: ending the plague that is the only team to never
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: make the World Series. They need a true leader in
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: the clubhouse to handle the talent they have, and Jerry
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: can't be that guy, at least optically with the players
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: and the fans. Hire a strong manager. Let's see what
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: happens in 27 whenever we start playing.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's the thing that makes me so sad. I
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: just want baseball.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes. Let's see. Whoa, whoa. Spring training
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: is fun. Baseball definitely has a great and best preseason
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: of all sports. Don't say get rid of preseasons. Cactus
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: League is fun if you're there sitting in the sun
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: watching it on the grass and the berm. If you're
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: at home and here and it's rainy and it's March
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: and you're like, what do the Mariners do today in
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: a Cactus League game?
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Some guy's wearing number 84 pitched and He's going to
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: be in Everett next week, and I really don't care.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and everybody else was there for one inning, and
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: then they left.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Then they left. Yeah, yeah. And I heard prices, this
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: isn't an indictment on the Mariners. I think it's everything.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: I heard the prices down spring training have just gone skyrocketing, too.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure. And, you know, it could benefit from
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: being shorter.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, people can still go and still watch, but
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: it doesn't have to be, what, pitchers and catchers report
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: like the second week of February, and then you don't
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: start until the last week of March or first week
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: of April.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: It seems too long.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: 206, longtime Washingtonian here living in Arizona. We call it
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: a Seahawks home game in Arizona. The Cardinal fans hate it. LOL,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: tell Ian DK said hello. Hey, DK, good for that.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Let's see. We had a whole bunch. I'll read this
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: one real fast. Beaver fan here. Love watching Jesse Legree
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: have to now because he's going to be gone next year. 100%.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Nicole Auerbach, Michigan alum. What did you expect? Exactly. You
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: are both right for the 425. I'll take that as
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: you and I were right. Yeah, I like that.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Best text of the day.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Final one. This is longer, but I just want to
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: get to it. Great perspective, Ian and Ashley. I'm a
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: diehard UW grad who also hates the system. I blame
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Larry Scott, USC, and UCLA equally for the demise of
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: the Pac-12. I also thought it was smarmy for Anne-Marie
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Cossé to handle UW's departure the way she did, but Oregon, Oregon, Washington,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Oregon had no choice once the Pac lost the L.A. market.
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: It's true.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: You have to look out for yourself at that point.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Moving forward, we need more restrictions on transfers first and
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: foremost and a way to save women's teams in non-revenue sports.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: I feel like the athletes have no tie to the
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: school anymore, which is a shame. When I was at UW,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I had classes with Huskies who were starters for Don James.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I fear now it's just semi-pro teams branded with school logos. Yeah,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of guys are just taking online classes.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: And I've told the story many times. When I was
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: in school, I'd sit there. The Monday after Ruben Mays
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: ran for almost 400 yards against Oregon, set an NCAA record.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I'm in poli-sci class with him. It was awesome. Yeah,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: I had class with Carson Palmer and everybody.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Named your daughter after Carson Palmer.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: That's why I named her Palmer. Yeah, exactly.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Not Arnold. No.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Not golf at our house with my dog, Bunker.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no. Wouldn't be one of the greatest golfers of
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: all time.
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: No.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: We don't have pictures of him everywhere.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: No, it's Carson Palmer, the quarterback, for sure.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Number three.
• 27:47
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  Speaker 2: Ashley's going to give you a pick. If you agree,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if you watched the Pittsburgh Steelers play
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  Speaker 5: this past weekend.
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  Speaker 2: I watched it via red zone. They are not good. No,
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  Speaker 2: they are not.
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  Speaker 3: They are not good.
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  Speaker 5: And yet they are somehow only three and a half
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  Speaker 5: point underdogs against the Bengals who are pretty decent.
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  Speaker 3: So Bengals already played a really good defense in Houston, right?
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  Speaker 5: So you can't say like they don't know what to
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  Speaker 5: do against a good defense because Houston's defense is supposed
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  Speaker 5: to be the best in the league and they put
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  Speaker 5: up 20 points against them. Give me the Bengals minus
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  Speaker 5: the three and a half at Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 2: What? Love that pick. Damn, I love that pick.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: One team has a competent quarterback who may be an all-pro. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: The other team has Aaron Rodgers. Correct. Who was an all-pro.
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  Speaker 3: And is a team that put up only three points
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  Speaker 3: against the Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: Here's why you're playing. If you text FACT or FICTION
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  Speaker 2: to agree or disagree with Ashley. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: Whoever has the most picks after 14 weeks, and this
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  Speaker 2: have All you have to do is get one correct
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't take a lot of effort. Just to text
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  Speaker 2: one word, fact or fiction, to 49451. And you can
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  Speaker 2: do that right now. Ashley, again, going with what is
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  Speaker 2: seemingly a hammer pick. Bengals minus three and a half?
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  Speaker 3: At Pittsburgh, yep.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Fact49451. If you disagree, first of all, if you disagree,
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  Speaker 2: then you're rooting for Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, who wants to do that? Let's be honest.
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  Speaker 2: I can't fathom doing that. In any way, shape, or
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  Speaker 2: form on any planet, I can't fathom doing that. So
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  Speaker 2: text right now, Factor Fiction, 49451. It's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a whooping. Pittsburgh's awful.
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  Speaker 3: Awful. I mean, they looked like they didn't know how
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  Speaker 3: to play football on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they can't block for Aaron Rodgers. He holds on
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  Speaker 2: to the ball too long. Yep. and then he'll just
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  Speaker 2: dump it off because he doesn't want to get hit,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't want to throw incompletions. He's kind of got the
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  Speaker 2: Geno in him, too. He doesn't like to throw incompletions. But, yi-yi-yi-yi-yi.
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  Speaker 5: But, you know, last week, of course, it was weather,
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  Speaker 5: but it seemed like a lot to have the over
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  Speaker 5: on Chicago and Minnesota.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, we didn't know it was going to be
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  Speaker 3: like a monsoon.
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  Speaker 2: You know what? And that one was the one that
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  Speaker 2: got me a little bit. Because, like I said, I
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  Speaker 2: would take that again, but the weather and Caleb. Now,
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  Speaker 2: Caleb did throw 26 passes. It's not like he didn't play.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But weather obviously affected them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it was sloppy as heck. Everybody was slipping
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  Speaker 3: the entire time.
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  Speaker 2: Bengals with 20 points in Houston. Like, that allegedly was
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  Speaker 2: a really good defense. Now, Houston's given up points both times.
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  Speaker 2: They scored 33 week one to the Bengals. I think
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  Speaker 2: they're going to be fine. They're going to be fine.
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  Speaker 2: They'll cover. They'll win. One team's got an elite wide receiver,
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  Speaker 2: and the other team's got DK Metcalf. who we thought
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  Speaker 2: was going to be elite wide receiver.
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  Speaker 5: The memes, by the way, of Rodgers to Metcalf this
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  Speaker 5: week have just been on point.
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  Speaker 3: It's like kids in the backyard.
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  Speaker 5: One thinks he's just an all-star throwing, and then the other,
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  Speaker 5: it's like five feet in front of the receiver.
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  Speaker 3: It's the best.
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  Speaker 2: So fun. So fun. All right, one more time. Your
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  Speaker 2: pick is?
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  Speaker 5: My pick is the Bengals minus the three and a.
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  Speaker 3: Half at Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 2: Text FACT49451 if you agree. That would mean, A, you
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  Speaker 2: don't like Aaron Rodgers and you don't like the Steelers
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  Speaker 2: and you want to win $ 1, 000. If you disagree, text
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  Speaker 2: FICTION because maybe you think at some point Ashley's going
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  Speaker 2: to be wrong. I don't think it's this pick that
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  Speaker 2: she's going to be wrong with. Thank you. 49451 FICTION
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  Speaker 2: if you disagree. FACT49451 if you agree. David Mahler joins
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  Speaker 2: us next. Okay, I've got two things for this guy today.
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  Speaker 2: Not just one. I can only handle one. And here's
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  Speaker 2: the problem. I don't do two. Here's the problem. Nope, nope,
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  Speaker 2: don't do two. Both of them are things that I
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  Speaker 2: agree with you and I applaud you for. Did that
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  Speaker 2: change anything? No, no, I don't want any of them.
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  Speaker 2: That feels weird. You don't believe it, do you? Don't
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  Speaker 2: do that. Don't do that. Let me first start with...
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  Speaker 2: Either A, I don't do compliments, or B, I know
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  Speaker 2: what you're doing and I don't like it. No, no.
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  Speaker 2: So knock it off. Number one, I loved what you
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  Speaker 2: said to Nicole Auerbach. Oh, God. The woman hates covering sports.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: She hates the sports she covers. It's like you sit
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  Speaker 2: in a studio. Yes. In Chicago? Yes. She's NBC, so.
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  Speaker 2: Are they in Indianapolis? I think she does stuff with
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  Speaker 2: the Big Ten Network, too. Yeah. But you're sitting in
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  Speaker 2: a studio.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of rooting for everybody.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's kind of what you do, which is fine.
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  Speaker 2: That's the job. I get it. Whatever. No harm, no foul. National, yeah.
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  Speaker 8: But you don't sit there in a college town, a
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  Speaker 8: small town, watching your roster get pillaged by Georgia, Ohio State,
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  Speaker 8: or Oregon, or even UW, or USC, or whoever, and
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  Speaker 8: have an emotional investment in these guys. So, you know,
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  Speaker 8: why don't you just zip it and let fans be
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  Speaker 8: fans that are upset that their rosters are getting blown
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  Speaker 8: to bits?
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  Speaker 2: Ridiculous. Here's the thing. Everyone's doing it to everybody. Wazoo's
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  Speaker 2: got 38 transfers. And from a variety of schools. But
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  Speaker 2: You guys have transfers. You lose transfers. We all do.
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  Speaker 2: There's five schools that probably don't, and they lose the
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  Speaker 2: transfers because the guy's never going to play, so they
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  Speaker 2: don't care. But yeah, I thought that was kind of
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  Speaker 2: a disingenuous comment. The other one is this. So I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. So K2 did a story in Portland about
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  Speaker 2: the economic impact of arenas and stadiums, and then it
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  Speaker 2: started getting a lot of play. I know Dwight James
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  Speaker 2: was doing stuff with it. You somehow got yourself involved
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  Speaker 2: with it, right? Just to give you a little thumbs
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  Speaker 2: up on this. Not just the emotional attachment. This came
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  Speaker 2: out three minutes ago. Three minutes ago. The World Cup
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  Speaker 2: brought in $ 889 million to Seattle and King County. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So that stadium that Paul Allen and the state built,
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  Speaker 2: did it, besides the emotional stuff, did it make any
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  Speaker 2: sort of impact? Well, first of all... $ 889 million for
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  Speaker 2: five weeks.
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  Speaker 8: And that's not even counting the last 30 years of
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  Speaker 8: Seahawks football and what the NFL has meant.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just looking at, what, they have five games there?
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  Speaker 2: Is that what we had? I believe five, yes. $ 889 million. Bananas, wild.
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  Speaker 2: And then on top of that, to tell, these economic,
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  Speaker 2: what are they called? Not the economists. Are they like,
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  Speaker 2: what are they, stadium economists?
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  Speaker 8: What did I say on Twitter?
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  Speaker 2: Sports economist. K-A-T-U. Yes. K2, as you said. Yes, K2.
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  Speaker 2: Get a story on it.
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  Speaker 8: And I saw Dwight James tweet about it, and so
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  Speaker 8: I just jumped in because I had nothing else to
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  Speaker 8: do at 6.35 in.
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  Speaker 2: The morning today. Yeah. Let's go start a Twitter fight.
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  Speaker 8: And then I had a guy, the debate is over.
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  Speaker 8: Sports stadiums are terrible public investments. To which I thought
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  Speaker 8: to myself, huh, that's interesting. So the state of Washington,
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  Speaker 8: King County put in $ 300 million to then Seahawks Stadium.
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  Speaker 8: And four Super Bowls, two titles. How many playoff appearances?
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  Speaker 2: 17.
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  Speaker 8: Division championships. The parades we had. Yeah, that's been an
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  Speaker 8: awful investment for us.
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  Speaker 2: Awful.
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  Speaker 5: Awful.
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  Speaker 8: And then some smartass responds with, well, what about T-Mobile
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  Speaker 8: Park and Safeco Field? Look, I'd rather have a terrible
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  Speaker 8: baseball team than no team at all, okay? I'd rather
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  Speaker 8: have a terrible basketball team than no team at all.
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  Speaker 5: Having those stadiums, by the way, for the World Cup
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  Speaker 5: just brought in $ 869 million.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we just said that. Oh, did you just say that?
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  Speaker 8: That's what's going to happen on this show a lot,
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  Speaker 8: by the way.
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  Speaker 2: Hang on, hang on.
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  Speaker 8: When you're not listening because you're doing 15,000 things behind
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  Speaker 8: the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Dave, that's Ian, by the way. I had you
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  Speaker 2: guys confused. Which one?
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  Speaker 8: And we're talking about the public investment in stadiums, Ashley.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not listening. And if it is worth it or not.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, it is.
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  Speaker 2: That's the topic of the day. Well, there's two ways
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  Speaker 2: it's worth it, like you just said.
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  Speaker 3: So I guess I'd say it is, guys.
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  Speaker 2: You have a team. Is that not enough? How's that sound?
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  Speaker 2: The team?
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  Speaker 8: Not everything is about dollars and cents, for God's sakes.
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  Speaker 2: How about the pride you feel?
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  Speaker 3: They look at it.
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  Speaker 2: And having a frigging team.
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  Speaker 8: How about being able to take your daughter or your
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  Speaker 8: son or your mom or your brother or your dad
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  Speaker 8: to a freaking basketball game? I haven't been to an
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  Speaker 8: NBA game with anybody I love, really, because I don't
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  Speaker 8: love Dick. I mean, we're friends, but we went to
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  Speaker 8: a game together in Houston. I took Gina to a
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  Speaker 8: Blazer game. B-Roy, it was like Jewish night. And I
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  Speaker 8: went down there and a bunch of rabbis in the crowd.
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  Speaker 2: It was awesome. But that was like 15 years ago.
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  Speaker 8: So, yes, I mean, his kid, your kid for the
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  Speaker 8: most part, grew up without basketball. Your daughter grew up
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  Speaker 8: without basketball in this town. And you're telling me that
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  Speaker 8: you're sitting around going, geez, thank God we didn't fork
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  Speaker 8: over the $ 80 million that Wally and Howard were looking
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  Speaker 8: for because, man, that would have been a terrible investment.
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  Speaker 2: Or would you rather have just sucked it up.
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  Speaker 8: 20 years ago and had your damn team and enjoyed
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  Speaker 8: basketball with your kids? Think about how small... What are
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  Speaker 8: we talking about here? How big of a freaking dork
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  Speaker 8: do you have to be to have that take?
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  Speaker 2: Honestly. It's the worst kind of nerd. The worst. $ 80 million.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. $ 80 million.
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  Speaker 3: I was listening if that makes you feel better.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, thank you. $ 80 million. Think about how small that is.
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  Speaker 2: That's what they wanted.
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  Speaker 8: They may have asked for more 10 years later, 5
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  Speaker 8: years later, 15 years later, right now.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows? But it just boils my blood. It really does. Well,
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  Speaker 2: because of those two things. It's not only... When these
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  Speaker 2: so-called economists, they're supposed to know this stuff. When they
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  Speaker 2: say things like, well, yeah, there's no... Almost $ 900 million,
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  Speaker 2: almost a billion dollars, closer to a billion than a
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  Speaker 2: half a billion dollars over five weeks just for the
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  Speaker 2: soccer event. Yeah, I just, again. Just for the, and
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  Speaker 2: then the emotional pride, the civic pride, all the other things.
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  Speaker 2: That's all cherry on top for me. Quality of life.
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  Speaker 8: Everything you're talking about with the money and how much
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  Speaker 8: it brings in for businesses.
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  Speaker 2: Our buddies at Simply Seattle, the Queen Anne Beer Hall, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: All those guys, yeah.
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  Speaker 8: All those guys that are making money on this thing.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, what do Cougar home games do for hotels
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  Speaker 8: and restaurants in Pullman? It's their whole year. It's their
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  Speaker 8: whole year. So again, I think the investment is worth
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  Speaker 8: it financially. And even if it's not... Even if you're
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  Speaker 8: not breaking even, shut up.
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  Speaker 2: Just shut up. You got a team. Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Is that not worth every penny that you put into
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  Speaker 8: that stadium to keep the Seahawks here 30 years ago?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Is it not worth all the baseball games?
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  Speaker 8: Now, look, they've been a pain in the ass, obviously.
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  Speaker 8: But the memories, the moments, the friends that you make.
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  Speaker 8: The people that you meet, you know, the memories with
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  Speaker 8: your kids. I mean, how much would you like to pay, Ashley,
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  Speaker 8: to go back and have Palmer go to basketball games?
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  Speaker 8: Or how much would Dick pay to have Dixon go
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  Speaker 8: to basketball games? Yeah, and not to have to travel
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  Speaker 8: to Portland to go watch him. What is your portion
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  Speaker 8: of whatever that money would have been? My son's a
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  Speaker 8: damn jazz fan. How sickening is that? He's a jazz fan.
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  Speaker 3: That's what these people have done.
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  Speaker 8: That's what these people have done to you.
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  Speaker 2: They've turned your son into a jazz fan. Well, it's
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  Speaker 2: partly your fault because you live there, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: It's partly your fault.
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  Speaker 8: I'm not just going to blame the politicians for your
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  Speaker 8: ridiculous choice.
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  Speaker 2: I'll blame the politicians for that, too.
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  Speaker 3: They need more blame.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, anyway. All right, good talk. Good talk. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you were right twice in the last 24 hours. Now
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  Speaker 2: I'm all fired up. Are you 24 hours you were
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  Speaker 2: right twice? That's it.
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  Speaker 8: No more.
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  Speaker 2: No more. I'll tweet something stupid tonight to make up
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  Speaker 2: for it. I'm sure if I did a deep dive,
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  Speaker 2: there's enough things in there.
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  Speaker 8: We'll tweet something stupid to make up for it. The
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  Speaker 8: Hawks will be here at 4. A little fun with audio.
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  Speaker 8: We're going to do a little testimonial. John Wilner will
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  Speaker 8: join us. Larry Stone, you realize that by about what
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  Speaker 8: time is the game?
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  Speaker 2: 6.40, the M's and Astros. Is that right? That's correct.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: What's the average length of a baseball game these days?
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Two and a half hours. Two and a half hours.
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  Speaker 8: So by 9.10 tonight, they could be done.
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  Speaker 2: Texas win, Mariner loss, it's over.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 2: Still a chance for the three-way tie. No, no. If
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  Speaker 2: those two things happen tonight, it's done. Three-way tie. No, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: I'm explaining to you.
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  Speaker 8: Ian, I got it right here from the horse's mouth.
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  Speaker 8: If those two things happen tonight, the Mariners need to
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  Speaker 8: go 6-0.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Mariners have to win. If those two things,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: if the Mariners lose and the Rangers win.
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  Speaker 3: Then it's over. Just know the music's still playing in
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  Speaker 3: my head, okay?
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Well, the music's still playing. We're all getting off. Is
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  Speaker 2: it over then? It's over. Okay. It's over. See you, man.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: For the mild-mannered and marginally objectionable Ian Furness, this is
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Paddle Day saying so long, everyone.