Latest / Kenny For Real / NBA Team Building Is About To Change…
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Team building is about to shift like crazy, and I
- 0:02Speaker 1: don't think anybody is really prepared for it. Now. I
- 0:04Speaker 1: know you're like any of the playing starts tom arow
- 0:06Speaker 1: the playoffs right after that, Why the hell do you
- 0:08Speaker 1: think about team building but win playoff mode and trust
- 0:10Speaker 1: once the playoffs start. My goal to get y'all a
- 0:12Speaker 1: bunch of recaps through the entirety of the playoffs. But
- 0:14Speaker 1: it being no games tonight, and it being the eighty
- 0:17Speaker 1: two game season being over, and my favorite team being
- 0:19Speaker 1: a team that's going to go into this offseason with
- 0:21Speaker 1: team belding the mine, I can't help but to think
- 0:23Speaker 1: about how much it might shift. I saw report this
- 0:26Speaker 1: morning or a graphic that said this season, the twenty
- 0:28Speaker 1: twenty five twenty twenty six season had the most sixty
- 0:31Speaker 1: lost teams in a single year with five. The Kings,
- 0:34Speaker 1: the Jazz, the Nets, the Pacers, and the Wizards all
- 0:38Speaker 1: lost sixty or more games this year. One of the
- 0:42Speaker 1: biggest conversations for the entirety of the year has to
- 0:45Speaker 1: do with tanking. It might be number one thing on
- 0:47Speaker 1: Adam Sills priority list, even if it probably shouldn't be.
- 0:49Speaker 1: Trying to fix tanking. We've talked a lot about the
- 0:52Speaker 1: potential solutions, and I don't have no ear to the ground.
- 0:55Speaker 1: I have no sources here, but through listening to a
- 0:57Speaker 1: bunch of people that do have sources, through podcasts and writing,
- 1:00Speaker 1: it seems like of all of the things that have
- 1:03Speaker 1: been proposed to the NBA or the NBA is proposing
- 1:05Speaker 1: to others, the flattening of the odds seems to be
- 1:09Speaker 1: the number one thing that might get incorporated. And not
- 1:13Speaker 1: only will it not be incorporated, potentially it's gonna get incorporated.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Like this, there's rumors that the NBA draft lottery might
- 1:21Speaker 1: shift starting next offseason. That is some pretty unpresidents to stuff.
- 1:26Speaker 1: You gotta think about the way the NBA tries to
- 1:29Speaker 1: incorporate new things and incorporate new rules and stuff. When
- 1:31Speaker 1: they decide to do the Second Apron, they gave teams
- 1:33Speaker 1: multiple seasons to say, hey, in two years, at least
- 1:36Speaker 1: two years, three years down the line, we're gonna incorporate
- 1:38Speaker 1: this team called the Second Apron, and you bet prepare
- 1:40Speaker 1: your teams now, because once we do that, there's no
- 1:42Speaker 1: turning back. There are teams that have built their future
- 1:45Speaker 1: based on the current lottery structure, the starting next season
- 1:49Speaker 1: will be demolished. Think about how crazy that is. And
- 1:54Speaker 1: it might feel simple to you, right because Kenny, you
- 1:56Speaker 1: talk about next year or two years down the line. No,
- 1:58Speaker 1: these gms are thinking two to three years down the line,
- 2:02Speaker 1: and they had an idea that this is a way
- 2:04Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to build our team, and Silver
- 2:06Speaker 1: and Company might come in and say, no, no, no, we're
- 2:09Speaker 1: shifting that. So Ben time Meyer, my apologies for I
- 2:13Speaker 1: mispronouncing your name. There. He put together this model right
- 2:16Speaker 1: with the idea of one of the things that Adam
- 2:18Speaker 1: Silver and Company may incorporate next season is flattening the
- 2:22Speaker 1: odds for the eighteen teams. We're talking about the teams
- 2:25Speaker 1: that missed the playoffs completely and the playing teams. Eighteen
- 2:28Speaker 1: teams have the exact same chance of getting the first
- 2:30Speaker 1: overall pick right now. You know, the top couple teams
- 2:33Speaker 1: have a fourteen percent cence. Hell, a few years before that,
- 2:35Speaker 1: the top team had a one and four chance to
- 2:37Speaker 1: win win the lottery. They're thinking about flattening it completely
- 2:40Speaker 1: across eighteen teams with the idea of getting rid of tanking. Now,
- 2:44Speaker 1: Ben put together this model to kind of showcase how
- 2:47Speaker 1: ridiculous it will look if they flattened it to hear
- 2:50Speaker 1: all thirty teams. And this is based on the twenty
- 2:51Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty six, so you can see. These are
- 2:54Speaker 1: what the odds look like right now. I'm gonna spend
- 2:56Speaker 1: the draft lottery one time under these new assumptions. And
- 3:00Speaker 1: a team like the Indiana Pacers who went out of
- 3:03Speaker 1: their way to lose a bunch of games. Instead of
- 3:05Speaker 1: them having the second pick, which is what they're projected
- 3:08Speaker 1: to have in real life, under the new structure, they
- 3:10Speaker 1: have the eleventh of them. Sorry, they dropped eleven percent,
- 3:13Speaker 1: they have the thirteenth pick. Now the Washington where's oooh?
- 3:17Speaker 1: They came out here as winners, right the Wizzard, who
- 3:20Speaker 1: won seventeen games on the season, dropped all the way
- 3:23Speaker 1: to eleven. And the protection that they have on their
- 3:25Speaker 1: pick is gone. And now that goes to the Grizzlies.
- 3:29Speaker 1: So two years ago there were teams that were trading
- 3:31Speaker 1: away their own first round pick. We're gonna top four protected,
- 3:34Speaker 1: We're gonna top eight protected because we think next year
- 3:37Speaker 1: we're still gonna be bad enough to be a bottom
- 3:39Speaker 1: eighteen and the NBA might just pull the rug underneath them.
- 3:42Speaker 1: So the picks that you traded that you thought were
- 3:44Speaker 1: safe are no longer safe. And if I bet those gms,
- 3:48Speaker 1: if they knew that they were gonna have a flat odds,
- 3:50Speaker 1: they wouldn't have traded that pick. So it is shifting
- 3:54Speaker 1: like that. Potentially Again, none of this is confirmed, but
- 3:56Speaker 1: potentially shifting like that. Also, see that Joe du Mar's
- 4:00Speaker 1: dumbass trade that he did is gonna net the Atlanta
- 4:03Speaker 1: Hawk's number one pick under this struccher. So that's something.
- 4:06Speaker 1: But we've seen some pretty egregious potential things. Now I
- 4:11Speaker 1: do want to say, oh, the Grizzies, just the Desert
- 4:13Speaker 1: By trade works and they get the top three pick
- 4:15Speaker 1: in this one. Now, I do want to say, this model,
- 4:19Speaker 1: this model and theory will nullify tanking. Right if we
- 4:25Speaker 1: are a team like, let's run this one more time.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Oh my god, what a perfect example. I just pull
- 4:29Speaker 1: it up. Oh my goodness. If we are team a
- 4:32Speaker 1: team like the Sacramento Kings who folded the cards pretty
- 4:35Speaker 1: early into the season, we under this new structure, I mean,
- 4:39Speaker 1: we don't have an incentive to do that because we
- 4:41Speaker 1: could still be the third worst team in the league
- 4:43Speaker 1: and end up with pick seventeen. They dropped twelve, y'all,
- 4:47Speaker 1: they dropped twelve spots, right, So it does de incentivize
- 4:52Speaker 1: tanking for sure, But I also think there are some
- 4:56Speaker 1: unseen consequences of all of this. So going back to
- 4:59Speaker 1: what made me initially think about this is my favorite
- 5:01Speaker 1: team has matter of fact, I could just show you
- 5:03Speaker 1: this is their payroll. My favorite team. Anthony Simon's off
- 5:06Speaker 1: the books, Colin Sexton, Zach Collins, Gershan Yabuselee, and the
- 5:10Speaker 1: people that we do have under contract. Godly Patrick Grave's
- 5:14Speaker 1: concert is crazy. It's really just Josh Giddy when it
- 5:16Speaker 1: comes to big money a kor Ros making. So we
- 5:18Speaker 1: have sixty upwards of sixty million dollars potentially in cap
- 5:22Speaker 1: assuming that we don't resign any of these guys that
- 5:24Speaker 1: are up for free agency, right and we have at
- 5:27Speaker 1: least one first round pick the season, with the opportunity
- 5:29Speaker 1: of getting a second one if the Trailblazers actually make
- 5:32Speaker 1: the playoffs with their game against the Suns or the
- 5:34Speaker 1: second game against the winner of the Clippers versus Warriors,
- 5:36Speaker 1: So we could potentially have two first round picks in
- 5:38Speaker 1: this year's draft. And right now, we have no general manager,
- 5:41Speaker 1: no basketball ops guy, and I'm thinking about if I
- 5:44Speaker 1: was in that seat, which I don't want that seat,
- 5:46Speaker 1: but if I were to be in that seat, you
- 5:48Speaker 1: kind of have to think about this sixty million dollar
- 5:51Speaker 1: cap space and potential other moves with the idea that
- 5:54Speaker 1: next year there is no such thing as tanking, if
- 5:56Speaker 1: you will, because there really is no incentive to lose
- 5:59Speaker 1: six games. So how do you build your team? Are
- 6:03Speaker 1: you building your team just to be competent enough to
- 6:05Speaker 1: not be the worst team in the league, but maybe
- 6:07Speaker 1: you still just want that eight percent chance to win
- 6:09Speaker 1: the lottery. Are you building your team to say, hey,
- 6:11Speaker 1: it's because everybody else got flatknogs, We're going balls to
- 6:13Speaker 1: the wall. Those picks don't even matter as much to me.
- 6:16Speaker 1: Or are you in the exact opposite where picks become
- 6:19Speaker 1: more valuable because if you're a playing team, you have
- 6:22Speaker 1: an eight percent chance to win the lottery. So when
- 6:25Speaker 1: we see more big trades for first round picks, when
- 6:27Speaker 1: we see less big trades the first round picks, and
- 6:29Speaker 1: I think that's what will make a really good general
- 6:31Speaker 1: manager who might step into the bulls, What will make
- 6:33Speaker 1: him I don't know. The most beloved person in Chicago,
- 6:36Speaker 1: if he figures out whatever the hell the formula might
- 6:39Speaker 1: be under this potential new structure. Because even if this
- 6:42Speaker 1: is not the structure, the NBA has said that they're
- 6:45Speaker 1: doing something, and all of those things potentially change the
- 6:49Speaker 1: way you look at team building. And I can't help
- 6:51Speaker 1: but to think about all of the teams that have
- 6:53Speaker 1: acquired a ton of draft capital. Right, I'm looking at
- 6:55Speaker 1: an article by Bobby Marx and Jeremy Wu on ESPN,
- 6:58Speaker 1: But this article is a year old, or some of
- 7:00Speaker 1: these picks or some of these numbers might be skewed
- 7:02Speaker 1: a little bit because we've seen a lot of trade
- 7:03Speaker 1: since then. Oh scratch that. I got an up to
- 7:05Speaker 1: date one from Christopher Klein, a fans sided were he
- 7:09Speaker 1: tallied the teams with the most first round picks over
- 7:12Speaker 1: the next ten years. The Brooklyn Nets have sixteen of them,
- 7:15Speaker 1: same thing with the Okac Thunder. The Grizzlies have fourteen,
- 7:19Speaker 1: and list goes on and on and on. Right, think
- 7:22Speaker 1: about how these picks were acquired, right, I wonder if
- 7:26Speaker 1: I don't know, if Danny Ainge knew that the odds
- 7:29Speaker 1: are about to get flatten, where everybody that misses the
- 7:32Speaker 1: playoffs or make the playoffs and through via playing does
- 7:36Speaker 1: he give up all the picks that he gave up
- 7:39Speaker 1: to go get Jared? I understand some of the picks
- 7:41Speaker 1: are not their own, but does he still give up
- 7:43Speaker 1: those same amount of picks? Right? Do the Magic give
- 7:46Speaker 1: up for first round picks for Desmbane if they knew
- 7:48Speaker 1: that this season, which was objectively a failure because they
- 7:52Speaker 1: had great expectations from everybody, be included where this season,
- 7:55Speaker 1: again under this new structure, could have potentially met the
- 7:58Speaker 1: Grizzlies the first overall pick because even if we make
- 8:01Speaker 1: the playoffs this year as the eight seed, they have
- 8:03Speaker 1: an eight percent chance of moving up. And again, I
- 8:05Speaker 1: understand why Silver and Company are so hell bent on
- 8:09Speaker 1: this topic because they just signed a media rights deal,
- 8:12Speaker 1: which is a win at the end of the day, Right,
- 8:13Speaker 1: that's not going anywhere anytime soon. But the first year
- 8:16Speaker 1: in your media rights deal, you have it so that
- 8:19Speaker 1: a ton of teams are taking It's just not a
- 8:20Speaker 1: very good look where you can turn on ESPN, Petcock
- 8:23Speaker 1: or Amazon and Team C two teams going to get
- 8:26Speaker 1: each other that you might have been excited about, and
- 8:28Speaker 1: one of those teams are tanking, right, and it's just
- 8:31Speaker 1: not a good product at the end of the day.
- 8:33Speaker 1: I also think that one of the unintended consequences of
- 8:36Speaker 1: this of this is that I mean, at the end
- 8:40Speaker 1: of the day, a lot of team building does boil
- 8:43Speaker 1: down to luck. Right. The Spurs got lucky when they
- 8:48Speaker 1: won the lottery, and the Victor Women Yama year, they
- 8:51Speaker 1: got lucky when they got the second overall pick in
- 8:53Speaker 1: the Dylan Harper. They got lucky when they got Safuncastle
- 8:56Speaker 1: they tank to get. But you have to get lucky
- 8:58Speaker 1: when it comes to odds. You have to get lovey
- 9:00Speaker 1: that the year that you decide that you want to
- 9:02Speaker 1: be in the lottery, that it is a good draft.
- 9:04Speaker 1: There's a level of luck, which I mean you have
- 9:06Speaker 1: to make the right picks, but you also have to
- 9:08Speaker 1: get lucky. This new structure obviously does incentivize a bunch
- 9:13Speaker 1: of luck, but it also gets to the point where
- 9:16Speaker 1: let's try to pick a team. Let's try to pick
- 9:17Speaker 1: a team here. Let's say we are Let's just use
- 9:22Speaker 1: the Chicago Bulls cause they've been an example for the
- 9:23Speaker 1: entire video. We are the Chicago Bulls right under this
- 9:27Speaker 1: year's draft structure. My goodness, had the we had the
- 9:30Speaker 1: ninth pick in our mind and fell all the way
- 9:32Speaker 1: to fifteen. Trash. Okay, no big deal, we got unlucky.
- 9:35Speaker 1: Let's run it again next season. We are not good either.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Oh man, this year we ended up with the fourteenth
- 9:40Speaker 1: overall pick. That's not good. So we're gonna draft in
- 9:42Speaker 1: the teams multiple years. Okay, the next one, oh okay.
- 9:45Speaker 1: Then we did get some luck here, but it is
- 9:47Speaker 1: so much luck based that you will have teams that
- 9:50Speaker 1: will draft thirteen to sixteen for four straight seasons and
- 9:55Speaker 1: there's nothing they can really do about it. There's nothing
- 9:57Speaker 1: they can do about it. Some teams don't have the
- 9:59Speaker 1: incentive or don't have the way to go in to
- 10:02Speaker 1: go get the free agency. They have to play through
- 10:05Speaker 1: the draft. They have to build that way, and you're
- 10:07Speaker 1: just making them more tough for them. Playing through the middle,
- 10:09Speaker 1: and I'm not even through the middle. Playing towards the
- 10:13Speaker 1: lower middle has not worked out for any team off
- 10:16Speaker 1: the top of my mind. It just hasn't. Being the
- 10:19Speaker 1: eleven seed at every single season has not worked out
- 10:21Speaker 1: for anybody. Again, Chicago is are a perfect example. You know,
- 10:25Speaker 1: eight through a tenC to eleven sey It just does
- 10:28Speaker 1: not work. You need in most cases a star player
- 10:33Speaker 1: to get out of the gutter, and drafting a star
- 10:37Speaker 1: at thirteen is objectively more harder than drafting a star
- 10:40Speaker 1: player at one, two or three. I've said it, I
- 10:43Speaker 1: have been a pro tanking guy. Yes, it can get egregious,
- 10:45Speaker 1: especially towards the end of the season, where the Utah
- 10:48Speaker 1: Jazz play a game. You tune in on game seventy
- 10:50Speaker 1: four and you're like, who the hell is that? Like,
- 10:53Speaker 1: I understand that, I understand that, but some of these
- 10:56Speaker 1: teams really do not have much of a choice, And
- 10:59Speaker 1: I wish I knew what the solution is. Right if
- 11:01Speaker 1: you are a GM going into this next era of
- 11:03Speaker 1: team building, if I need a solution, I'll put my
- 11:05Speaker 1: name in that half of that bulls job. But I
- 11:06Speaker 1: have no idea how it will go right. Somebody is
- 11:10Speaker 1: going to figure it out, and the guy that does
- 11:12Speaker 1: figure it out will be running the NBA. Somebody's gonna
- 11:16Speaker 1: really figure it out. But also the thing is like, okay, again,
- 11:19Speaker 1: we had the most amount of sixty loss teams, like
- 11:21Speaker 1: we mentioned, most most amount in the history of this sport,
- 11:23Speaker 1: which is just not good at the end of the day.
- 11:27Speaker 1: But there will always be bad teams. There's no way
- 11:30Speaker 1: to get rid of bad teams. This is no way.
- 11:33Speaker 1: It's not it's not like because we flatten the odds
- 11:35Speaker 1: and teams are not incentivized a tank anymore, that we
- 11:38Speaker 1: won't still have sixty lost teams, that we won't still
- 11:41Speaker 1: have teams with fifty plus losses on the season, because
- 11:45Speaker 1: there's there's talent in the NBA. But also the good
- 11:48Speaker 1: teams are really really really good. Right So now, if
- 11:52Speaker 1: you're a fan of a team that's not trying to
- 11:55Speaker 1: tank on purpose but just put together a roster that
- 11:58Speaker 1: does not work, if you're a fan of that team,
- 12:00Speaker 1: what is the light at the end of the tunnel
- 12:02Speaker 1: for you? The eight percent chance of winning the lottery
- 12:04Speaker 1: when we just ran it and you can go from
- 12:05Speaker 1: number one to number fifteen. The one thing that the
- 12:08Speaker 1: fans have. If you're a Wizards fan, if you're a Pacer,
- 12:11Speaker 1: Pacer just went to the finals last year. But if
- 12:12Speaker 1: you're a Nets fan, you're a Jazz fan, you're a
- 12:15Speaker 1: Kings fan. The one thing you have, and maybe this
- 12:17Speaker 1: is a bad thing, but the one thing you have
- 12:18Speaker 1: is that glimmer of hope that the lottery will be
- 12:21Speaker 1: on your side and you can draft the star of
- 12:24Speaker 1: the future for you. If you shorten these odds, you
- 12:27Speaker 1: get rid of this. You don't really have that light
- 12:30Speaker 1: at the end of the tunnel that you go into
- 12:32Speaker 1: the lottery with a little bit of hope, but it's
- 12:34Speaker 1: not enough to really to really be attainable. And maybe
- 12:38Speaker 1: that level of hope puts the GM in the place
- 12:42Speaker 1: of the losion at the end of the day. Right, Oh,
- 12:43Speaker 1: we're gonna keep losing because there's a chance we do this.
- 12:45Speaker 1: There's a chance we do it. So I can understand
- 12:47Speaker 1: both sides of this. But as somebody that has been
- 12:49Speaker 1: in the lottery or near the lottery for many years recently,
- 12:53Speaker 1: the one thing I really hold on to is the
- 12:55Speaker 1: idea of what is it? May fifth, May fourth that
- 12:59Speaker 1: you know, those Paul balls I get to bounce in
- 13:01Speaker 1: my favor and aj de Bondsa puts on the bulls jersey.
- 13:04Speaker 1: Am I crazy? Maybe, But that's what I have as
- 13:07Speaker 1: a fan of this team right now. Right If I
- 13:10Speaker 1: didn't have that, I don't know what to tell you.
- 13:13Speaker 1: I don't know. I wish I had some answers. Nobody does.
- 13:16Speaker 1: I wonder when we'll find out. I know they have
- 13:17Speaker 1: a meeting in a few weeks here. I wonder if
- 13:19Speaker 1: they're just gonna vote on that meeting in boomba boom,
- 13:20Speaker 1: and that's gonna be the reality of what's going on.
- 13:22Speaker 1: But I think that it does. It does completely change, Yeah,
- 13:27Speaker 1: the team building of it. All. The way teams look
- 13:28Speaker 1: at this year's draft, the way teams look at trades
- 13:31Speaker 1: this offseason, the way teams look at the contracts for
- 13:34Speaker 1: this upcoming season. All of these things are just evolving
- 13:38Speaker 1: the game. And I think there is a real chance
- 13:42Speaker 1: that if they employ this that four years, five years
- 13:45Speaker 1: down the line, we look back on it be like, damn,
- 13:47Speaker 1: that was a mistake, just like we deal with the
- 13:49Speaker 1: sixty five game rule were in real time. When they
- 13:51Speaker 1: incorporate the six five game rule, it made sense. There's
- 13:53Speaker 1: so many people out there that were sitting just because
- 13:55Speaker 1: or a low management. Sixty five game rero cool. We
- 13:58Speaker 1: saw a bunch of stars play more games next season.
- 14:00Speaker 1: But now we're three years, four years down the line,
- 14:02Speaker 1: we'll say, oh, that sixty five game row was a mistake, right,
- 14:05Speaker 1: And I wonder if we flatten these odds, if that
- 14:07Speaker 1: is the way we're going to look at it in
- 14:09Speaker 1: the future,