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Nick and Ryan Drink Coffee at Roast Summit in Portland, Oregon. · Coffee People Podcast

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  I have a sticker on the bottom of my cup.
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  It's. New.
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  Brand new. Do you wash cups if you if you
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  buy a new cup, yes. Yeah, I'll be honest, I'm not
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  very good at. It no, I always watch the cup.
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  I watch everything like I'm obsessive about like plate and
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  silverware and glass climbiness. It might have something to do
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  with being poisoned, I could be wrong.
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  I bought a water bottle on my way to the air like like I
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  stopped and got a new Yeti water bottle, which I really like
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  using it a lot, but I bought it on the way to the airport and I
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  just like took the pieces of paper inside out, threw them out
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  and then I went and I just put it straight into the water
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  bottle filler and just. Absolutely.
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  I could never. Oh my God, that gives me anxiety
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  and stress. Like if I'm in a a restaurant or
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  a coffee shop and I get a cup and the cup has like a chip in
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  it or it feels like it wasn't cleaned well, I just leave it,
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  walk away. I don't even drink it.
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  Just pay the money. I don't complain.
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  But yeah, it's got to be clean. All right, Do.
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  You drink tap water. If I'm in a situation where I
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  have to because obviously water is more important than not
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  water, but I generally filter my water at home.
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  If I'm travelling overseas, I'll probably bottle water depending
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  on where I am. We're in Iceland and they,
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  everyone, they kept saying like, just drink the tap water.
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  We don't even filter it here. And I kept going, why?
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  And they're like, well, it's, it's so it's already filtered as
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  it goes through the volcanic rock and stuff.
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  And I don't know if it was, it didn't necessarily taste better,
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  but I did drink the tap water. I'm done with tap water.
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  Yeah, I drink it. Unless it's like, concerning.
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  I always, I always debate. What's concerning?
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  Well, in, in New York earlier this year, Coffee Fest New York,
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  I had been filling up my water bottle from the tap, which I
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  don't know, but then then that was that was an opaque water
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  bottle. And then I I filled up a a
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  glass, a clear glass and. Yeah.
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  Sorry it was so cloudy. I it, it made me.
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  And then I went downstairs and I got bottles of water.
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  Oh, so like minerals? But I'm done with tap water.
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  I drink tap water. Do you brew your coffee with tap
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  water? No, I filter my I filter my
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  coffee water well, because that that's like actually a flavor,
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  you know, I get it'll extract different.
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  I I like to do. I don't always do it.
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  I'm not one of those. I like I've gotten like the the
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  jugs of distilled water and then put like the third wave water
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  packets in it. And then I write like I have to
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  write on it like special coffee water.
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  Don't drink. Yeah.
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  I do the same. Otherwise, Hannah will just
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  like, pour a glass of it. Oh, my wife won't pour a glass
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  of it, but she'll use it like in the iron In the iron 'cause we
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  always keep like distilled water for the iron, so it doesn't.
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  Like are you supposed to use distilled water for the iron?
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  Yeah, it'll like just avoid calcium and stuff in it.
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  Well, Chris? Life lesson.
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  Chris Henman today is giving a talk on water, so we'll learn
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  all about it. And by the way, we are at the
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  Ross Summit. Yeah, and we are Nick and Ryan.
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  I am Nick. Drink coffee and occasionally
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  forget to press the play button on the video.
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  Apparently, which has already happened once it.
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  Was such a cool video too it. Was so good you were at roast
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  some in Portland. I love Portland, we're outside
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  because it's not raining for 10 minutes.
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  I struggle to understand how a city can have so many coffee
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  shops, roasters and cool ones, breweries like businesses that I
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  like, but how can you have so many in such a concentrated area
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  and survive? It is crazy.
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  We at the summit we saw we have a little packaging station where
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  we donated some bags so that people can fill them up.
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  But we had all these buckets of coffee that were freshly roasted
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  and all these bags, but no way to scoop the coffee into the
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  bags. So I, we needed a scoop.
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  So I just like looked outside and I, I walked over to Buckman
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  Coffee Factory. I was like, hey, can we borrow a
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  scoop? And they didn't have an extra 1.
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  So then I went across the street to Water Ave.
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  Coffee, who's a customer of ours.
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  And I was like, hey, can I borrow a scoop?
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  And they're like, yeah, of course I've, I've been there a
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  few. Like, yeah, you could have
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  thrown a rock and just like, sure would hit a building with a
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  coffee scoop. Across from Water Ave. one block
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  that way is is it Cova or Koala? I think it's Cova, Cova.
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  But then also one block that way is Cova, so you could literally
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  go to two Covas within a two or three block radius.
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  And then between here and my Airbnb, which is a 10 minute
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  walk, I don't know 25 places to get coffee a varying.
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  There's over 1000 in Portland coffee shops.
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  Yeah, over 1000. I did not know that.
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  About 1000 like I'm sure David 950 to 1050, somewhere in
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  between there. That makes me feel good because
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  I went to upper left and I think I had one of the best shots of
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  2025 there. Ethiopia, Abstinian shout out to
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  upper left. That was, that was a melter.
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  Did you get the eggs? I didn't get the.
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  Eggs. I had some guy this morning come
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  up to me because I made the the video on upper left.
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  I don't know if you saw it, and I gave the eggs a shout out.
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  Some guy came up to me this morning.
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  He said I saw your video. I got the eggs this morning.
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  They were fantastic. That was.
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  The coolest like content thing. I think that may have happened
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  to me. There's still time, but I think
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  it's cool to like, like they all have to be good to survive, and
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  then when they are, it's even better.
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  Like I it would terrify me to open a cafe or a bar or
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  something. The bar is high.
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  Yeah. Like you, you have to do things
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  I don't. Yeah, I don't have to do them
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  right. There isn't a right way, but.
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  Oh, there's a right way. There are a lot of wrong ways.
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  There's a lot of wrong ways. OK, that's fair.
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  That's better. I was thinking about, you know,
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  I whenever I'm like drinking my coffee, like at home or, you
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  know, on the train or something, I have coffee thoughts and I
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  write them down and just things that are coming to me like while
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  I'm actively drinking coffee to ask people like you.
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  And one of the ones that I though I had a couple this
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  morning and, and yesterday. But I'm wondering if you think
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  it's possible to be an ethical coffee drinker.
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  We use words like ethical and sustainable and green.
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  And, you know, we have, we had a whole session yesterday on
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  electric roasting as just the person on the other side of all,
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  of all the production, all the coffee stuff.
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  Is it possible for me to really be ethical when it's a, a
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  product that, you know, is travelling around the world?
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  I, I just don't see how we can do the best we can, I think, but
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  I don't know, you know, what are your thoughts on that?
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  And I say I'm asking you specifically because we're
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  different ages. You're coming at it from a
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  different perspective. Climate change has always been
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  kind of talked about in your lifetime.
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  I don't know. Yeah.
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  I mean, ethical, you know, it's like to the earth to other
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  people, Like, what impact does your cup have?
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  I don't know. It's like so many coffee
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  companies preach about the the good that they've done in the
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  growing region where the coffee comes from.
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  Which one is just a hard thing to measure?
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  Yeah. How do you quantify doing good?
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  Yeah. Do you think you're a good
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  person? I think we're a good person,
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  yeah. Yeah, I do.
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  That's very quick. Confidently.
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  Oh, OK, I think so. I'm not so sure about me.
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  I think I'm really good at like faking it.
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  And if you fake it long enough, you become one maybe.
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  I'm certainly not a bad person, I don't think, but I'm always
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  questioning like. Or am IA narcissist?
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  Or have I convinced myself that I'm a good person?
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  Right shoot. I have.
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  Some fingers. To do, you know, like and then
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  where is your line like thinking about being ethical or
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  sustainable? Are you a good person if you try
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  to do good things and you're nice to people?
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  But say you you you buy crappy coffee that is not good.
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  For the world. Right.
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  Or like you shop at a place that maybe you don't think about, you
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  know, where they are supporting things in the world.
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  Like how far do you have to go down the rabbit hole to avoid
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  the good place problem? I mean, I buy stuff on Amazon
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  like that's like a. What's Amazon?
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  Is that like a store or something?
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  It's like a little, little online retailer.
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  Oh. Yeah, like a new thing, like a
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  startup or something. It's been around for a few
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  years. Can I buy books there?
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  Yeah, yeah, actually, they got their start in books, believe it
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  or not. Yeah.
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  And now they sell a couple other things in addition.
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  To books, one of my biggest things was I used to buy books
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  from this like online thrift website called a the books and
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  then and it was like to avoid, you know shopping like to 1 to
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  buy a used book and buy them. You could buy them from small
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  stores around the country and then Amazon bought them.
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  So now like my options for online are very limited.
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  I mean there's other stores obviously, but like I've made a
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  real effort to like if I'm buying a new book for book club,
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  trying to find a bookstore and go there.
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  But when you're in a book club and you're buying a book every
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  month, that's like, it adds up. Yeah.
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  So I still try to use like the thrift book site, but it all
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  goes to Amazon eventually. I get cat litter on Amazon.
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  Cat litter? Yeah.
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  The boxes are like 40 lbs. Otherwise if I buy it at the
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  grocery store it costs the same exact amount of money.
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  Then I have to like carry it into the back of the car and
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  then get it out. So it's not because of the
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  price, it's because you don't want to have to carry it it.
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  Costs. No, the price is the same, but
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  yeah, then it's on my doorstep versus then you have to like
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  carry it through the grocery store.
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  Yeah. OK, I've got another one for
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  you. I've been thinking.
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  I've been having a lot of thoughts about coffee lately or
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  during my coffee. Not about coffee necessarily,
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  although this one is really good.
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  This was like a batch brew from the summit.
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  I have the one that was to the right and I don't think I read
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  the sign I'm. Trying to think of who it was.
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  Cafe Kale I think was 1. Creole Creole Stone X has a
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  coffee. There Stone X does.
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  I don't think this is theirs. I think this is.
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  No I I have the non yeah mocha or muda muda.
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  I think the coffee's been really good.
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  If a if a Mortuary is sending someone out on a run and they're
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  driving a hearse and there's a body in it, so you have a driver
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  and a body, should they be able to use the HOV lane on the
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  highway? I think this is a serious
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  question. Like if if they did that and got
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  pulled over, although I don't know who would pull over a
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  hearse, but let's say he was going like 90 miles an hour
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  there's. I've heard several stories of
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  people getting pulled over driving horses, actually.
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  Really. Yeah 'cause like they ran a red
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  light or something. I.
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  Don't know why, but yeah, my Haley from Rostar who you've met
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  was in a hearse that got pulled over with a body in it one time.
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  I don't know the context. I have a family member who I'm
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  not going to use their names. They would take the hearse from
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  the Mortuary that they ran to Packer games so that someone
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  could sleep in it on the way back.
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  With a coffin. No, just like the little bed in
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  the back and then you know, it's kind of a nice way to lay down
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  after a long game and a few few pints.
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  What else is new? I feel super cool sitting by the
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  skate park. I would not skate in this park.
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  Also I would not skate at all. I'm 40 some years old.
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  I would ride on the flat ground in between all of the ramps.
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  Yeah, that that's kind of like. The guy that was getting down
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  though, he was, I don't know how old he was.
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  Yeah, I mean, there are other 40 year olds who can still skate,
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  I'm just not one of them. Skating between all the stuff is
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  kind of like holding the guitar that you can't play at the
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  party. Like, yeah, like, oh, why don't
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  you play something? Oh, maybe later when you just
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  kind of strum it once and then walk away.
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  We can come here tomorrow and just sit here with skateboards
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  as if we're like always on a break.
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  And just have like random stranger's joints laying around
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  like we're super cool. Yeah.
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  Oh, I'm not touching that. I touched it.
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  There's one actually in there that is.
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  This has been Nick and Ryan drink coffee.
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  Cheers. This is such a pointless little
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  endeavor that we've been doing for like a year.
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  It has been about a year. I mean, we've been having coffee
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  together much more than a year, but.
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  Probably like a year and. 1/2 We've done a lot of these in
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  person. Yeah, more so this last.
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  I mean, well, now it's, you know, there's no COVID anymore
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  or whatever. We just don't talk about it
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  anymore. We had a coffee together in
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  person in Wasat that we didn't record.
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  That was just a nice quick morning coffee though.
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  Yeah. How you feeling?
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  How you feeling? How you?
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  Feeling how you feeling? How you feeling?
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  I'm feeling good. You feeling good?
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  Feeling. Good feeling, good time to bag
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  up the last batch that we just roasted.
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  We're going to grab our our roast star bags.
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  We'll grab this little roast star.
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  Handy forming shoe. Just pop that open, take that
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  down, and this saves us so much time, so much time, so much
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  time, and then we're just going to fill this up to a 12 ounce,
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  all right here. We're working in a bit of a
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  confined space, but that's because you have the luxury of
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  being right inside of the cafe, so customers are right behind
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  us. So that's a bear.
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  Awesome. Boom.
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  One down. 754 more to go. That guy's got a coffee cup on
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  the back of his truck. Oh no.
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  Oh no, there's a pioneering latte.
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  Oh no. Since getting into the custom
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  printed bags, yeah, have you noticed any changes in how
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  customers view your coffee? So where we started with the
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  bags were, you know, craft brown bags, all handwritten for the
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  Ethiopia right now, since this is a seasonal special, we are
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  handwriting the the name on it. The one that has the name
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  printed on there just has a lot more validity.
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  With the custom printed bags, we've actually been able to get
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  into places that have needed the barcodes, some places that also
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  need a use by date. With the craft bags, we weren't
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  able to get into as many places because the validity of our
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  product really wasn't there when we were having to handwrite all
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  the different information on. It Well, this has been fun,
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  Nolan, but I think I'm going to leave you to bag the rest of
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  this. Only 759 more to go.
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  Thank you for your help, Nick. Thank you.
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  You're hired. Thank you.
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  The.