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When Babies Fly! · Mom Wars

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  Speaker 1: From the front lines of The Mom Wars.
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  Speaker 2: Here's Bethany Mandel and Kara Kennedy.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, and welcome to the fourth, I think episode of
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  Speaker 3: The Mums.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Kara Kennedy and this is Bethany Mandel. And when
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  Speaker 1: you and threw it, you call it the mum Wars. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I can say mom, but it sounds fake.
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  Speaker 3: So that sounds fake. Yeah, it's like m double am.
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  Speaker 3: So it just doesn't fit the mom Wors. That's the
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  Speaker 3: name of our show. Yeah, So today I want to
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  Speaker 3: start by talking about the biggest freak out that I
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  Speaker 3: had last week because I was taking my baby on
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  Speaker 3: a plane for the first time and everybody told me
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  Speaker 3: that it was going to be officially the worst false apparent.
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  Speaker 3: And then I had friends who like, one of my
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  Speaker 3: friends Holly has taken her now one year old on
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  Speaker 3: twenty seven five, So I was like, it called me
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  Speaker 3: that hard. We're gonna see how old is she? The
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  Speaker 3: baby is long? No, your baby, my baby, My baby's
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  Speaker 3: six months old. It's a fishal No. I kind of
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  Speaker 3: feel like I've I've lasted to it long now. I've
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  Speaker 3: been so anxious the whole time. And it was fine, right,
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  Speaker 3: I was fine, well, I mean it was slightly most stressful.
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  Speaker 3: We said, it's like probably twenty five percent most stressful.
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  Speaker 3: Then got in the estel phone of lying. But it
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  Speaker 3: definitely wasn't what I thought she was going to be.
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  Speaker 1: When my oldest was four months old, I follow like
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  Speaker 1: all of these deals websites and we'll talk about it
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  Speaker 1: later because actually I'm taking a trip with my kids
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  Speaker 1: thanks to some of these deals. So I follow all
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  Speaker 1: these like deals websites, and when my daughter was four
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  Speaker 1: months old, so this was eleven years ago, I got
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  Speaker 1: a mistake fair on Delta to Hawaii, first class for
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  Speaker 1: ninety seven dollars round trip.
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  Speaker 3: That's incredible.
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  Speaker 1: I got this one. So I booked it when I
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  Speaker 1: was still pregnant with her, and I had no idea
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  Speaker 1: what children were like. I had know she was my
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  Speaker 1: first whatever, and I said to Seth, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: by four months, I should probably be recovered.
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  Speaker 3: Let's just do it.
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  Speaker 1: And if we ended up, you know, chickening out, like
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  Speaker 1: we'll only be at two hundred bucks, like whatever. But
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  Speaker 1: if it does work out, we've gone to Hawaii for
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  Speaker 1: two hundred dollars. We brought her to Hawaii at four
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  Speaker 1: months old. It was not a short trip from the
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  Speaker 1: East coast. It was fine, and everyone gave us dirty
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  Speaker 1: looks when we walked into first class with a four
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  Speaker 1: month old, and by the end of it, people were like,
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  Speaker 1: she's a delight, and I'm like, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think you kind of spoiled yourself though, by
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  Speaker 3: taking the baby on a first class by the first time,
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  Speaker 3: because then you have like unrealistic expectations for economy class. No,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was good because it was my first
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  Speaker 1: trip and so I really felt like I eased into it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was a very easy trip. I mean, we were
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  Speaker 1: texting before you flew. I nursed her on the way
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  Speaker 1: up on the way down because that suction clears their ears,
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  Speaker 1: and when my kids are older, like I always bring
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  Speaker 1: lollipops on flights so they can do that also. But
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  Speaker 1: it was it was a very easy trip. I wrote
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  Speaker 1: a piece, I think it was like my first piece
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  Speaker 1: actually for the New York Post, you know, many many
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  Speaker 1: many years ago, and the piece was I think it
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  Speaker 1: the premise of it was, I'm not going to make
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  Speaker 1: a goodie bag and hand them out to everybody on
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  Speaker 1: my flight because I have nothing to apologize for. Children
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  Speaker 1: are nothing to apologize for. They exist in this world
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  Speaker 1: and like deal with it, just like everyone dealt with
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  Speaker 1: you when you were a baby.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is the thing with me. So before
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  Speaker 3: I had a child, I was definitely the type of
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  Speaker 3: person who would like get on to fight, see a
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  Speaker 3: kid and be like ah no. So I was expected
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  Speaker 3: like comic retribution one hundred percent because I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I have definitely given some ditty books to some kids
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  Speaker 3: in clients, but it was fine. The thing that I
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  Speaker 3: really liked about traveling with the baby is how nice
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  Speaker 3: everyone is to you. Everybody just wants to make you
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  Speaker 3: day easier. The flights attendants were nice. I'm sure this
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  Speaker 3: isn't the case all the time, but like we'll get
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  Speaker 3: through the everybody's looking at you. Everybody is like smiding,
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  Speaker 3: I'm waving on the baby. I don't know, it was
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  Speaker 3: just nice.
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  Speaker 1: I once wept to a wedding it was Thanksgiving week
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  Speaker 1: and on the way home it was the day before
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  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and I missed my flight to do totally to
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  Speaker 1: my own stupidity, and I had a baby with me.
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  Speaker 1: I had my third with me, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this is so easy because I already have one baby
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  Speaker 1: with me. This is fine. Whatever, whenever you can get
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  Speaker 1: me on a flight whatever, I messed up, whatever, And
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  Speaker 1: they bent over backwards like Thanksgiving, the day before Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 1: to get me on another flight because I had him.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, that's going he should only
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  Speaker 3: have one baby with me.
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  Speaker 1: He's had I don't care. Whatever, and they got me
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  Speaker 1: on a business class seat. I didn't pay for business class,
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  Speaker 1: and they got me in a business class seat like
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  Speaker 1: seven hours later. I was like, this is amazing. I'm
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  Speaker 1: always traveling with a baby now.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, it kind of reminded me about how you're treated
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  Speaker 3: when you're pregnant. It's throughout my pregnancy I was treated
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  Speaker 3: so well. You just have that luck with other mothers
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  Speaker 3: or other pregnant women, and it's like a solid diarity
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  Speaker 3: between you, and it's just really nice. Or like older
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  Speaker 3: women who look at you and they like kind of
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  Speaker 3: reminisce and they're like, oh I remember, and they tell
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  Speaker 3: you about their grown up children. It's so nice.
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  Speaker 1: I made a bestie on a flight from Iceland like
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  Speaker 1: last year. They were traveling with two little kids behind me,
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  Speaker 1: and I turned around and I was like, I have
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  Speaker 1: six kids. If you need anything or if this kid
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  Speaker 1: kicks my seat, I don't care, don't stress. And I
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  Speaker 1: ended up making best friends with the whole family. I
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  Speaker 1: was just on Instagram with the mom this morning, like
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  Speaker 1: I love her and I want to bring her on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast, but so nice and her daughters we chat.
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  Speaker 1: I chatted with her daughters for like a solid hour.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, this was the best flight of I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I like talking to children. That's why I had so many,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't have any with me right now, so
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  Speaker 1: I would love to chat with your kids.
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  Speaker 3: Nick says that his favorite part of being a dad
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  Speaker 3: and on this favorite part, but one of his favorite
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  Speaker 3: possibly being a dad. It's the like dad's solidarity. How
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  Speaker 3: like a guy will open a door for you if
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  Speaker 3: you're a guy with a stoller, And usually he would
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  Speaker 3: feel like emasculated, but now I think, yeah, this is nice.
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  Speaker 1: Why were you in Boston?
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  Speaker 3: I went to a Waddin also fine. Chok the baby
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  Speaker 3: to the Wadin also fine. I was terrifying that she
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  Speaker 3: was going to be screaming. I think six months is
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  Speaker 3: kind of a golden age to do all of this, though,
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  Speaker 3: Like she's very easy to manipulate right now, as soon
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  Speaker 3: as she starts crying, I just make a laugh and
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  Speaker 3: she forgets.
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  Speaker 1: When they're when they're like eighteen months old, that's the
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  Speaker 1: that's the bed time to travel. Yeah, it's they want
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  Speaker 1: to run around, but they don't understand why they can't.
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  Speaker 1: You can't suck them into a screen yet. It is
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  Speaker 1: a very very difficult age to travel. I did it
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  Speaker 1: to California twice, I think with that age, and both
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  Speaker 1: times I was like.
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  Speaker 3: This is the worst six hours of my life. Wait
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  Speaker 3: can you not suck them into a screen at that age?
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  Speaker 3: That was my plan, but really my plan eighteen months now,
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  Speaker 3: I've had some planes or no.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I'm all for it. I'm not anti iPad
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  Speaker 1: on a plane, quite the opposite. But their attention span
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  Speaker 1: is like zero at that age. It's eighteen months is
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  Speaker 1: a really really tough age because you can't there's nothing
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  Speaker 1: to do, and they don't understand why they can't just
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  Speaker 1: run up and down the aisle for seven hours. It's terrible.
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  Speaker 3: There was one thing that annoyed me about this fly
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  Speaker 3: in just one nasty woman will past and looked at
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  Speaker 3: my very awake, kind of tired baby at this point
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  Speaker 3: before we had taken off and it was so hot
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  Speaker 3: on the fire, and I was getting flustered that I
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  Speaker 3: had just got it to sleep. And then Nick brows
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  Speaker 3: dad the stroller and it like startles her awake, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, no, I just spent like
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  Speaker 3: an hour trying to get her to sleep. So she's awake,
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  Speaker 3: and this woman walks fast and my giggles to a
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  Speaker 3: daughter and says, oh, well, I hope that baby sleeps,
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  Speaker 3: and I just it just wasn't the right time. You know,
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  Speaker 3: my blood freshure was up. I was already like sweating
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  Speaker 3: and packing, so I hope that woman has a terrible day. Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Baby at a wedding was also fine. I mean, babies
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  Speaker 3: and weddings is a tough one because I kind of
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  Speaker 3: I know you agree with me and that you kind
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  Speaker 3: of believe in the child free wedding. I don't believe.
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  Speaker 1: I believe in the bride's choice.
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  Speaker 3: Seth.
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  Speaker 1: Seth had two cousins who got married back to back
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  Speaker 1: like they were siblings. One had a child free wedding,
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  Speaker 1: one had a child full wedding. They were both amazing,
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  Speaker 1: super fun waiting weddings in very different ways. And I begrudged.
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  Speaker 1: No one their choice of how they want to spend
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  Speaker 1: their own wedding. They should do it. It was funny
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  Speaker 1: because when we sent our invitations, I didn't know like
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  Speaker 1: protocol or anything, and so I just addressed the invitation
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  Speaker 1: to the couple and they were like, can we bring
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  Speaker 1: our children? I'm like, of course she can.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: But I didn't know that you're supposed to like write
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  Speaker 1: mister and missus Seth Mandel and samily Was. I just
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  Speaker 1: addressed it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't note thank you. I didn't know that when
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  Speaker 1: we got married. But yeah, we had kids at our wedding.
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  Speaker 1: It was super fun. I might be married also to
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  Speaker 1: my nephew because he was under the hoopa with us
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  Speaker 1: the whole time, because he like ran to us in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of the wedding and like my sister and
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  Speaker 1: I look. My sister in law and I looked at
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  Speaker 1: each other and had this like unspoken I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't care, and like if he starts screaming, that's
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  Speaker 1: much worse.
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  Speaker 3: So just and stand next to me. So I might
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  Speaker 3: be married to my nephew. That's hilarious. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: the rules are well. I remember reading like an Emily
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  Speaker 3: Oster piece about newborns at weddings, because I think she
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  Speaker 3: was asked by a couple of different people like can
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  Speaker 3: I take my newborn to a wedding? And she was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: of course she can't, but it's probably going to be
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  Speaker 3: kind of miserable, Like I think she did it, and
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  Speaker 3: the baby ended up screaming for a five hour flight,
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  Speaker 3: and then she spent the whole wedding like breastfeeding, clustered,
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  Speaker 3: really hot. So I see how it would be like
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  Speaker 3: a very stressful experiences. The baby isn't quite on board yet,
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  Speaker 3: you know. But no, definitely was a very good age.
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  Speaker 3: I think six months is great to travel. Did you
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  Speaker 3: do anything fun in Boston or just just the wedding?
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  Speaker 3: We spent a couple of days there either side. I
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  Speaker 3: didn't really leave the hotel room much was praising cold.
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  Speaker 3: We also got one of those like wedding baby sisses
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  Speaker 3: for the party. What's that, which I didn't really know existed.
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  Speaker 3: It's like it's like services that provided childcare just for
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  Speaker 3: like the wedding party. That's fine. Yeah, And I was
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  Speaker 3: kind of hugged up by the mother of the groom
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  Speaker 3: with this baby system, So chi, do you know these
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  Speaker 3: people trying to sleep my baby?
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  Speaker 1: So I think that that is an under realized obligation
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  Speaker 1: if you do have a child free wedding, but also
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  Speaker 1: just if you have a wedding, like if it's on
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  Speaker 1: your home turf, you have to help people find babysitters.
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  Speaker 3: That is yeah, well I kind of thought before I
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: had a baby that like get in a babysity would
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  Speaker 3: be a really difficult job. Like I thought you would
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  Speaker 3: have to interview them and kind of scope them out
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  Speaker 3: and work out if they're good people. But no, it
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  Speaker 3: inside you just like hand them over and it's fine.
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  Speaker 3: It's weird like that.
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  Speaker 1: I we have a WhatsApp group in my neighborhood because
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  Speaker 1: I live in an orthodox Sturwish neighborhood where it's like
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  Speaker 1: very tight, and we have a WhatsApp group and I
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  Speaker 1: was who was I talking to about this that didn't
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  Speaker 1: have kids, and they were horrified because they were like,
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  Speaker 1: how did you find your babysitter. I'm like, I suppose
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  Speaker 1: to in this WhatsApp group and she showed up and
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: then I just said goodbye.
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  Speaker 3: That was what I did. Well, it turns out it
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  Speaker 3: turns out I shally that it's not very difficult to
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  Speaker 3: look after a child the technic for a couple of hours.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, it's fine.
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  Speaker 1: I have I have older kids, And so they've stepped
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: into the breach actually twice with really bad babysitters, and
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: they were compensated for doing so. My oldest daughter twice
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: stepped in with very bad babysitters. Twice, right, tell me
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  Speaker 1: the story. Yeah, So one of them, she refused to
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  Speaker 1: change a diaper because it was gross. So yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: so my daughter brought that child into the bathtub, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure why the bathtub, and changed the child in
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  Speaker 1: the bathtub and changed her siblings diaper in the bathtub,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not I tried very hard not to.
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  Speaker 3: Mammify my oldest daughter.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of oldest daughters of large families complain about
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  Speaker 1: how they were turned into a caretaker, and so I
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  Speaker 1: taught very hard. So that was actually the first diaper
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  Speaker 1: she had ever changed. And I knew because when the
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  Speaker 1: kid woke up the next morning, the diaper was on
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  Speaker 1: backwards and I was like, oh man, a babysitter and
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  Speaker 1: she's like, actually it was me.
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  Speaker 3: I did that. That's insane, what an owdful baby sister.
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  Speaker 1: So we bought her a chin and then and then
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  Speaker 1: the babysitter couldn't put her, that baby to nap and
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  Speaker 1: so or to bed, and so my oldest rocked that
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  Speaker 1: baby for a very long time.
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  Speaker 3: We bought her a jewelry making kit for that mate,
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  Speaker 3: that's so cute.
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  Speaker 1: And then another night we had a babysitter in her
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  Speaker 1: twenties who, in the words of my mother of blessed memory,
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  Speaker 1: she passed away. But my mother used to say, she's
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  Speaker 1: a couple of fries short of a happy meal. And
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  Speaker 1: that's what this girl was, a couple fries short of
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  Speaker 1: a happy meal. So I sat on my way out
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  Speaker 1: the door. It's like person in her twenties, you know,
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  Speaker 1: my oldest, she's so confident. I told the story that
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  Speaker 1: I just told, and I said, so, you know, just
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  Speaker 1: don't even worry about you or not. You don't even
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  Speaker 1: have to do anything. She's in charge. She's got this.
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  Speaker 1: You're just here for legal purposes, but she's got this.
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  Speaker 1: And I said it as a joke because it's obviously
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  Speaker 1: a joke because she was eight years old, maybe nine,
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  Speaker 1: but I think he was eight and Seth, and I
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  Speaker 1: came home staggered. I don't know why, but he came
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  Speaker 1: home about fifteen minutes before I did, and the dog
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  Speaker 1: wasn't downstairs, and he didn't come downstairs, and Seth was like,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on. She's like, oh, the dog is with
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  Speaker 1: your daughter and the baby. She's had a hard time
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: putting him to sleep. She's in your bed holding the baby.
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  Speaker 1: And he was like what, and she said, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: she's been in there for like three hours, rocking the
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  Speaker 1: baby to sleep. And Steth's eyes bug. He told me
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: they bugged out of his face. And he was like, so,
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  Speaker 1: our eight year old is in our bed with our
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  Speaker 1: six month old and she said yeah, yeah, because she
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: said that she was so tired from trying to put
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: the baaby to sleep that she felt that she would
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  Speaker 1: just she had to, she had to lay down because
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: she was too tired, but the baby and go to sleep.
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  Speaker 1: So she just tried to get the baby to sleep
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  Speaker 1: with her in your bed. And he was like, and
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  Speaker 1: you thought that that was a wise course of option?
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  Speaker 1: You thought that that.
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  Speaker 3: At that point I would just be like get out.
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  Speaker 1: He so Seth came up. So so first he said
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  Speaker 1: you should leave before my wife gets home, for your safety,
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  Speaker 1: and so she did. She didn't understand I.
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  Speaker 3: Read, did you pay her?
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  Speaker 1: I was just about to say that. So Seth comes
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  Speaker 1: up here and the dog, even the dog knows this
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  Speaker 1: is dangerous, and he's watching the whole situation. And our
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: eight year old is asleep, sitting up holding the baby
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  Speaker 1: who can crawl, like the baby could have crawled off
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  Speaker 1: the bed and really gotten quite hurt. And the dog
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  Speaker 1: was watching because even my dog knows better than the
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: twenty year old babysitter that this was a dangerous situation.
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  Speaker 1: So the next morning I messaged her and I said,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: I will not be paying you. And this is I
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: always like. If I get a quote for fifteen dollars
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  Speaker 1: an hour and it ends up being I owe that
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  Speaker 1: person eighty five dollars, I always round up. I always
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: go to one hundred, Like if you're a good babysitter,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: I round up. I'm very, very generous with babysitters. I
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: have six kids I have to be And I said
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  Speaker 1: I will not be paying you, and she was yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it was a very uncomfortable situation because we were
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: friends with her sister, and that's how we hired her
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: and we never spoke to her sister. Get it was
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: very awkward, and we I, yeah, it was. It was
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: very very awkward. And I talked to the brother in
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: law of the babysitter. I was like, that was not okay,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: and you should not allow her to babysit for people
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: in the community again, because she obviously has no common
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: sense and that was a very datious situation. And I
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: am extremely and he like he got it, but she
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: didn't get it. She didn't get why that was dumb.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: That's crazy, that's unbelievable. Yeah, so awkward. I always get
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: scared with baby sishes. I don't know, it's my Britishness
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: in me that I just like feel bad that I'm
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: giving them my money to look after my baby. You know,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: I just feel uncomfortable about it. So I always leave
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: like very patronized three page step by steph instructions of
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: like how to maybe on the phone. I used to
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: do that.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I don't do that anymore. No, But I also I
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: rely on my oldest daughter now, like she really is
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: very helpful. Yeah, and so I mean she's the backup
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: and she will explain to the babysitter like this, this
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: is where the diapers are. Like, we have to do
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: a lot less now because I mean even like my
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: oldest son is ten years old, he's also very helpful.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: My almost eight year old son is helpful. Like I
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: don't have to do what I did ten years ago anymore. Yeah,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I used to leave three page letters that
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: no one read and it was fine.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah no, So okay, So one last thing about the
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: trip away because I feel like I should be honest
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: in this podcast about my feelings, but I've been feeling
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: like a very bad mum. I decided to put the
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: baby in the bathroom to sleep or else with the
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: baby sleep, Well, she was gonna she wanted to be
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: in the hotel room with us to have like a
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: sleep over and have fun. But I was like, I
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: don't want It was about it seven pm, so we
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: shipped her into the bathroom.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Where do you think my babies have slept on every
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: vacation for the last ten years. Okay, they're great because
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: they're pitch black and you can turn on the fan
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: and that's white nose on the fun.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, this is what I thought too. I thought it
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: was a genius, but I did feel staggy, bad about it.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: My kids have slept in the bathroom. Every single child
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: has slept in the bathroom. We always go to Colonial
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Williamsburg and I have I rent a specific hotel because
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: of the setup of the bathroom, and I've always had
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: a baby in the bathroom.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Do you have one hotel room for all of you?
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: It depends.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: It's getting so I learned. I don't know if I've
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: told this story on this podcast, but I learned that
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Europe has tighter regulations on hotels than here. So here
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: we do all stay in a hotel, but now we
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: need to get like homewood suites, or like we need
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: to like stay in like bigger places now because there's
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: eight of us, or we'll get like two adjoining hotels.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: We've done that too.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: In Colonial Williamsburg, I stay at a specific place. It's
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: called the Governor's Green. If anyone you know, feel free,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: it's I get it on Airbnb and we get like
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: two in three bedroom suites there for this reason. But
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: now I've now I realize, actually I can never post
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: again that I'm at Colonial Williamsburg because that everyone will
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: know where I stay. Now I'll have to just wait
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: until I leave to post all.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: The wait, So what I said about Europe, Oh, so.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: They have like very they actually follow the occupancy limits,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: and Americans are aren't really serious about it, like we've
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: always broken the occupancy rules wherever we go since we've
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: had you know, four kids, five kids, six kids, and
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: it's fine. Everyone just looks the other way. In Europe
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: they don't look the other way, or at least in France.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I'll find out about other countries.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: But so how many can you get in a room?
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: So if you.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Get a room for three people, it has to have
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: three people, like you can't. And so I when I
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: arrived in France with my older three kids, got I
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: got a hotel that was for three people, and I
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: thought it was fine. And I got there and the
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: guy at the front was like, there's four of you.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I'm like, right right, they're small, it's fine, and he
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: was like, no, it's not. It's not fine. We have
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: like fire codes. And I was like, but you can't
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: turn us away because we're so tired. Look out tired
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: we are, And he had to and he took it
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: like upon himself because he felt bad for me. He
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: counted every single room in the hotel to see if
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: somebody in the hotel was under occupancy of their room
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: so that we could stay. And there was one room
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: where it was a three person room and they only
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: had two people, and so that's the only reason they
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: let us stay there.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Oh, it was really bad. Hi, this is a young
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Culter welcomed to my Ricochet on Cats.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: And Coulter every week on Ricochet.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: You're home to center right conversation. Hey, that was pretty good. Wait,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: tell me about your worst buy. I feel like there
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: must be some horror stories. And there were six kids.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, two come to mind, three, three come to mind.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: One of them was a pretty recent trip. We went
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: to Puerto Rico, and they delayed our flight for seven hours,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: and then they waited until we were boarding to tell
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: us that they had Reagan Airport and they were sending
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: us to Dulles instead, and that they would shuttle bus
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: us from Dulles to Reagan because they didn't want anyone
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: to decide to get not get on that flight, which
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: is what we would have done had they given us
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: that information, because if you get on the flight, I
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: learned subsequently, you forfeit your right to a ressunt.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: That is.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: So they waited until we were boarding and had no choice.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: We landed at the wrong airport at two thirty in
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: the morning and then had to get on a shuttle
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: bus and then got to the right airport at three
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: fifteen in the morning and didn't walk into.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Our home until five am.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: We watched the sunrise, so that was about not that
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: was with all six kids. We took a pretty choppy
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: flight to Florida, and I think it was on landing
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: that one of my daughters vomited on Seth and I
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: had everyone had apple juice when the when the drinks
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: cart came through, and Seth was like, that's a mistake,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: and I was like, it's fine, it's a flight. There's
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: no rules when we're in the air. And he got
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: vomited all over and then we had to then we
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: had to like get the bags and get the car,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: and he's just covered involve it and another child had
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: pissed themselves, and so because they were so into their
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: screen that they didn't realize and so they just pissed
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: all over themselves. So he was covered in vomit, and
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: that their child was covered and pissed and we had to.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Like, wait, hang on, is that a swear. Yeah, piss
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: isn't a swear. Oh, oh my god, Okay, so neck
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: is right. Me and Nick had this argument for about
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: two hours the other day because the two year old
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: came over and he kept saying that word, which to
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: me is a swear word. That's crazy.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: What was the third? Oh, the third worst flight? So
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I was alone with two children, and it was my
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: youngest son who was like a year old, a year
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: in change, so he was in that tough zone and
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: he really wanted to be let down so he could
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: run through the aisle and I would not let him,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: and so he bit me the whole flight. And so
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I was I was going on vacation with Mary Catherine
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Ham and we were meeting at our destination because we're
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: flying from two different places. And I got off the
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: plane and I was just covered in bites and she was.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Like, oh, oh my god, what happened to you?
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: And like I can't talk about it so bad. And
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I had my oldest who was not that much older
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: than my second, and so that was a hard one.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: And then I took a flight with three very very
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: little kids, like a baby, a two year old, and
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: a three year old to Chicago alone. It was a
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: tough flight also, but again I got a lot of
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: people who helped me. So yeah, it was just hard
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: because I basically couldn't pee.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: I feel like the will just should be easier to parents.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: I know that's terrible, and I've kind of tried to
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: stay away from that because I feel like very annoying
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: people feel like that. But it just should, you know.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: I feel like there's a higher army. That's a terrible thing.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: It's like, you help someone who's disabled, you help someone
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: who needs help. But I will say on that flight
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: where I had the three kids alone, who were like three,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: two and baby, I did have to pee on the flight,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: and so I stood up and I looked through the
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: whole plane and I saw a guy who was wearing
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: a yamuica. He was like four seat four rows behind
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: me in the middle, and I walked over to him
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: and I just handed him the baby. I was like,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: can you hold the baby so I can go pee?
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: And he was like yeah, yeah, sure, and I walked
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: back and I took him back. The people around were like,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: why did you trust that man? And I was like,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: first of all, he's not going anywhere. We're in the air.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: You're all watching him. Second of all, I figure he's
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: got a yammy.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: I'm a yid. He's a yid.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: He's probably got kids, and he's probably got grandkids. And
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, no, that's true.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I do. I do. A lot of children are dude.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: And then it turned out he was like, this is weird,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: but do I follow you on Twitter? And I was like,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: probably do.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: And he's like, you're really on brand. You're really the
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: person you say you are on the world on the Internet.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, I really am.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very own brands. That actually happened to us
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: twice this week. We went to breakfast and the waitress
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: was like, hey, the food is hard, so if you
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: want wait, to hold the baby while you eat. And
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: we're like, okay, ie.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: One of my favorites I was. I was in the
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: same age as Actually I did a like thousand mile
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: road trip alone with my four year old, my three
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: year old, no, my three year old, two year old
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and baby when my third was a baby. And I
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: was driving from North Carolina back to New Jersey and
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I had to pee really really bad, and so I
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: went into a Applebee's I want to say. And I
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: just handed the baby to a guy, a very very
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: drunk eye at the bar and came back out and
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: the bartender was like, why'd you do that. I'm like, well,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: he's very drunk. He's not going anywhere. My god, you
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: were crazy. I asked the way I like said to
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the bartender. I was like, can you just give an
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: eye on this.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be real fast, just keep an eye
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: on this whole situation. He was very happy, he was
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: very jolly. He wasn't getting in a car. Yeah, a
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: lot of people are very happy to hold the baby
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: food five minutes. That's funny. That was a good one, yeah,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: I wrote.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I wrote an Instagram post about that, and Dana Prito
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: from Fox commented, She's like, is that were sure?
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: And I was like, yes it is. Can you do.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Have you spent much time away from your paints?
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my god, have you ever?
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Yea? The longest was and this was too long.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: It was a mistake.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I went to Korea for like ten days when my
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: third was like one year old, and he took all
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: of his first hit. I left and he was crawling
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: and I came back and he was walking and that
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: was awful.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: My kids still talk about it.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: They're like, remember when you went to Korea and when
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: you came home he was walky.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I do. Never mention it again. Yeah,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: it's it's kind of sad how fast it all happens.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: I don't have a baby anymore. Nan. I feel like
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: I just about to start toalking and now you're you're
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: you're still in the zone. Yea. I feel I'm like,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: I feel nostalgic, right, I'm looking back and.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I'm oh, remember, I don't know you You've got another
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: solid year. I think a baby before you can see
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: you have a toddler. Yeah, yeah, but it's still it's
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: so hard. I mean, my youngest is two years old,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: and we were going to talk to this later in
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: the show, but I just booked a vacation for my
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: oldest five and myself to go to London for a week.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: And I so Seth does not want to partake. I
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: think it's dumb. He doesn't want to leave our dog.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Whatever. Oh Jesus Price, you cannot break up the.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Bond between a man and his scene. So I don't
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: want to talk about I'm really I'm ticked off. So
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: I found these really good flights, and so we were
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out what we were going to do.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Wait, how much for the six of us?
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Because it's five children and myself two thousand dollars round trip?
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, that is RADI well you have the semi
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So I mean it's like a discount airline.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: But like, I don't care. It's never a spar anine
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: that goes down. It's always like bread, I know.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: So I'm going with my older five children, and we
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: were trying to game out how I was going to
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: do this, Like am I gonna take the older four?
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: And I was going to leave my three year old behind?
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: But if we're just all being honest, he's my favorite.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: And I went.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: To Florida for like forty eight hours recently and he
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: was distraught and so yeah, really really just weeping for
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: two days straight.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: I miss mommy.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Mommy tooks me in, Mommy does and he's he's like
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: in a real mommy mode and he is my favorite.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: So I'm like a total sucker for it. Wait, why
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: is he a favorite?
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: A ball of light?
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: He is so sweet and loving? Wait is it? No?
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: He's my fifth Wow? So you have a three year
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: old and like a two years three year old. Yeah,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: we're seventeen months apart. Yeah right, so how how I
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: come to math?
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: So seventeen months apart? So he might he was nine
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: months old when I got pregnant.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Wow, okay, how is that very hard? Good guy?
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't recommend it. It wasn't intentional. I've done it twice
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: and I wouldn't recommend it.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: It was very hard.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: It was hard on my back, honestly, because it's just
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: it's hard, like there's still a baby when they're seventeen
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: months old and they still need their mama.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't do it again, but but then I did,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: So what can you do? So I when I came
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: home from that trip, we all were like, no, London,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: we can't do it because we had been thinking about
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: it for a while, either London or Amsterdam, and we
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: just crossed it off because I had gone to Paris
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: in June with my older three and it was an
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: amazing trip and I wanted to replicate it with my
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: with my next kid, my four. But I was like,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: I can't.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Leave the fifth.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: And then I decided, I'm like, you know what he's
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: potty trained and the freaking delight, and he was a
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: champ on that Puerto Rico trip, total total champion, and
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: so I was like, let's just I'm just gonna do it.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna bring him and I you know, I
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: posed it to my older three kids. I was like,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: it's going to be less of an adventurous trip. But like,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: he's not wearing diapers, he doesn't nap. I can put
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: him in a stroll or I can put him on
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: my back, and everyone might have to pitch it a
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: little bit sometimes, but I think he can do it.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: So Seth is going to stay home with our two
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: year old and be a single dad for a week
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: with the one baby because.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Of the dog. So the freaking dog. Let me shave
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: the dog. There's some times I want to.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: He's been like when he gets nervous or excited, he
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: peas involuntarily, and Seth and I touching makes him nervous.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: He's traumatized. I thinks he's seen, like we're not going
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: to talk about it. So anytime Seth and I touched
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: in our bed, he gets nervous, and so he is
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: peed in our bed four times in the last month.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: No, no, we if.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: We if we touch each other and he's like surprised
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: or he will he just has involuntarily or needed in
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: our beds four times.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Right, you need to create this dog. It's ticking in
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: a crate. I know, then talk to that's terrible. So
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: my dog was very independent and kind of basically create
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: trained until she got molested at her dog the parint
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: haven't told you this story. No, she got molested. I
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: don't know if I can say that our world. No,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I don't know. Apparently that's
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: not how it works in the animal kingdom, my husband
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: tells me. But so we took her to daycare, this
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: doggy day care that she was that she goes to
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: sometimes when she's like crazy and I just want to
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: get her at the house. And she hadn't been spade
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: yet because the fact recommended that you go through one
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: heat cycle before you space. So I've heard this. Yeah,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: so we were doing that. Apparently it makes them lives
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: like far longer.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: Oh no, So we did that, put her in to
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: the daycare and told the lady of the day here
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: that she was in heat and she needed to be
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: kept away from other males or we would just keep
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: her home.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: And she was like, oh no, you don't worries all.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: We have protocol for this. I'll put her in a
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: separate thing. We only have one intact male here. So
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: then I know I was in Dollywood in Knoxville. I
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: really want to get there. Amazing I was. I was
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: like seven months pregnant, but whatever. So then I get
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: a phone call from the daycare and she's like freaking out.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: She's like, I'm so sorry. I know I told you
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: that it wouldn't happen. But the one intact male in
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: the whole like facility, and this this place is like
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: acres and acres big. It's huge, loads of fences. Whatever
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: has jumped over the six foot fence because he can
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: smell her, And we think that we separated them in time,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: but like I don't know, if you know, or like
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: a dog, what happens to a dog when they're like
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: mate in but it like locks in. It's like yeah,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: so we just ignore him for a couple of weeks.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: But a dog pregnancy is very very short, is what
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: I realized. And take her to the vet because you
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: can't there's not like plan beat for dogs or anything.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: You can't. You just have to wait until they're pregnant. No,
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: do you know what. I googled this and there is
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: a plan beef for dogs in Europe, but you can't
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: get it in the US. So I was like trying
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: to like import them from you an plenty to get
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: this dog like abortioned anyway?
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Are you prolite?
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, kind of. Well, I don't know, things changed
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: after I was I was like very socially liberal before
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: I was pregnant, and then I felt I feel like
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: this is a whole other Yeah, but this was, but
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: this was.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: This is the reason I'm asking is like does it
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: have to translate to dog because.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. Can you get it?
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: If I'm pro life, can I support the Well, actually,
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: this is a whole like process that we went through
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: because we took the dog to the doctors. She had
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: eight pappy as well. She had eight pappies inside a
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: balley and she was only eight months old, so that
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: that was like, you have to have an abortion. She
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: won't make it through the pregnancy. She wouldn't even fully
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: grown yet.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: According to Juwishqua, that's acceptable really Yeah, Also, I was
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: eight months pregnant, so we would do at the same time.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: I'm not even joking. And Nick was like, we can
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: do it. We can have eight puppose and a baby.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: We can do it. It's gonna be fine. He was like,
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: I am pro choice for people, but pro life for dogs.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: It's the dog doesn't have the choice and we have
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: to do it. And I was like, your is your
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: husband live? What is your husband? Yeah, he's a closet. Yeah,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: don't worry, I'm working on it. So the dog got
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: an abortion and stay when I was like eight and
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: a half months, you're gonna get canceled now I know.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Well, people have different feelings on it. I don't know,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: but they can come. I've never put any thought into
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: dog abortion until right now.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Already some people have like strong feelings. We trust me.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: We had the whole saying when we did this. But yeah,
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: so she had an abortion, saba abortion. Eight abortions and
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: do you know what they do to the package? No,
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: I don't want to know. I don't know. I don't
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: want to know. Okay, I don't write. I don't want
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: to know. There's no good way this story ends.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: To be honest, I probably shouldn't have ask because the
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: dad was like, what do you really want to know this?
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: And I was like yeah, and the dog was like
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: in my arms, off their face on tramadol, and she
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: was like, we burn them. Yeah, so that's what happened.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: They now, I don't support dog abortion, and they.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Go into like a fairness I know, I don't support it.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Terrible Yeah I have died. Yeah, she could have died.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Well, they were herjudacy section on it, which would have
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: been a whole thing, but they recommended we had bought
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: and to be honest, I was all for it. Yeah,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: So she was off her face on tramadol. From the
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: point of the story is she was a very independent
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: dog before this and then she had her traumatic life
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: sing and she's been sleeping in our bed ever since.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: Never slept in our bed before that. No, she's traumatized.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Well, they said that she would probably have like a
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: phantom pregnancy, because they have after they after they have abortions,
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: they think that they're pregnant obviously for a while, so
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: they start like trying to make a nest and like
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: get an on the puny of step. She didn't, she
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: didn't care. She was like, I don't even think she
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: knew she was pregnant. She worked one day with Bood.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: She just crazy.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean we're just whims. I mean when
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I say we, I mean my husband. My husband is
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: a whimp. I would love to do that.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: I would love to create train Terman and get him
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: out of my bed. And yeah, do you think you
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: can get like a little dog bit made to the bat?
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: I know, why don't you do that? He wants? Don't?
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Why don't I do that? Will you not do that?
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: That's ridiculous? I gotta tag to them.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Now, don't Because he doesn't know this podcast exists. I mean,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: he can't know that I talked about this. I genuinely
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: don't know if he knows this podcast exists. He definitely
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: doesn't listen to it. And I would like to take
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: this moment to request that our listeners, the thousands of you,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I know, because we down we have the download numbers,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: we're all in a cone of silence.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, please don't stitch tag.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Please don't don't ever communicate anything you hear on this
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: podcast to my husband, because I mean, I don't know
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: if I'm allowed to have the podcast.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: We'rever trad then just got stitches. Tim. Yep, Yeah, that
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: was my dog's abortion. That's very sad.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Anything else, I mean, I think that's the name of
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: this podcast, doggy Abortion.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:14
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• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty nervous about five kids on a flight to Europe.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Well, why why are you going to London? Why not?
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Are you anything specific you want to dare?
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean so we we you know, homeschool and
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: we've been studying lots of things this year. That's all BS.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I just really want to go to Europe with my kids.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I had a great time last year and I found
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: these great tickets and yolo, I like, I haven't. I
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: have too many friends who have like had horrible like
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: diagnoses that I was thinking to myself. I was like, Wow,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: we'll do it.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not guaranteed next year. I don't know what's like,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: let's just do it. I and I actually I like
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: buckled down. I had I had to write a piece
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: that would like more or less pay for the flight,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: and I'd been putting it off for a months. I'm like,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit down, I'm gonna write that piece, and
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: that's that's the flight right there. And that's what I did.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: That's always a good way to put it. M I
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: loved it.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: It was just free money.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: So I thought you meant that. You have a lot
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: of friends who had like post natal depression and didn't
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: leave the house or soth no, no, no. I just
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: like I.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I have one friend who she was diagnosed with cancer
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: and like, that's just it.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: She did.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: And I have another I have a another person who
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: they had planned this big family vacation. They had to
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: put it off because of the war in Israel, and
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: then you know, the crux member of the family got
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: sick and they'll never be able to go on a
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: trip again. We're just we're not guaranteed tomorrow. And I
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: really wanted I want to travel with my kids. That's
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: why we homeschool. And I was kind of like, you know,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm like you know what, like
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: let's just do it. Like if it's a hard flight,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I've had hard flights before.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: And but like Europe with my older three was the
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: best week of all of our lives.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Oh that's so cute.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: And like my fourth and my fifth, like they're easy going,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: good kids. We'll manage that. That horrible, horrible flight to
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. I was so impressed with all six of
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: my kids, Like we walked in the door at five am,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: and they were champs. I can handle Europe.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I when we were on the fly and we
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: was I think the night before all we got on
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: this two hour friday to Boston when just pathetic. It
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: was the first truly stressed moment that Nick and I
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: have had. Like I don't want to say we hated
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: each other that night, because I think that's a bit
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: too strong, But we couldn't really look at each other.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: I think like if one of us opened our mouths,
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: it was going to be something negative and it would
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: have just blown up the whole thing. So we just
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: kind of avoided each other. So we were like packing
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: like fifty diapers in every single bag and we took
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: three checked bags.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. And I told you in the future. Yeah,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: she pads small stuff there, ship yourself stuff there.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: That's really spell or just like do like an online
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: delivery like a Walmart. That's what I did. Yeah, that's great.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, whenever we go visit my in laws, I get
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: an Instacart delivery there that course, like that arrives basically
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: when we arrive, and we do when we go to
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Florida because Seth's parents own a house down there that
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: everybody can news and so when we do that, I
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: get Instacart order that arrives when we arrive. It's all
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: it's very easy. And I like when we're at the
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Florida house. I'll get a Walmart delivery practically every day.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Well I want a floaty, I want this, I want that,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: and like we're getting deliveries daily.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the great thing about Amazon Prime. I
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: will never have a give out pie my own prime.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Walmart's great too. I love Walmart.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: They do next day to debris, same days liver.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: So we have an Amazon or Walmart Plus membership and
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: they'll shop Walmart for you and come to your door
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: same day.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Wow, I need to get out.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: So it's really good. So I do all my groceries there,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: and I'm getting a Walmart delivery every other day, maybe
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: every three days. I have a lot of children who
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: eat a lot of fruit, and I'm I like the
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Walmart people know.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: My name's that's see. I'm not like efficiency Maxine and
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: my parents for the journey so far. Do you know
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: what I've decided next time I travel very I'm gonna
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: get a fanny peg. Maybe we'll do that with them. Yeah.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: It's like, as I was like working out stuff at
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: the bag trying to get a macne for I was saying,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: you know what, I'm going to bolt send next time
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: with a fanny pack with the shameless Yeah.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a little bit nervous about the about the passports.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: That's the part that makes me nervous because I'm gonna
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: be carrying six passports by myself with no other adult.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: And when I traveled with my older four kids. Oh
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: you know one thing I have to remember. I'm just
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: saying this out loud so I remember it. Seth has
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: to write a letter giving me permission to travel with
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: our kids by myself.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's it's like it's a it's a flight
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: risk for custody things if you're like leaving, so you're
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: supposed to have a letter from the other parent that
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: gives that parent permission. And so when we when we
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: got to Iceland, when when I was there with my
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: older three kids, because we stopped over in Iceland before
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: we went to France. That's the discount airline. It's like
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: an it's an Icelandic airline. And so when I got there,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: he asked me where the where their father.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Was, and I was like, he's at home.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: And I was like, very flippant, and he looked at
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: me and I was like, but.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: It's cool, He's okay with it, guys.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I thought he was just making conversation, which of course
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: he's not.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: And I I'm not thinking.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I just like flew across the for Perducean, and so
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like just chatty, and he was Icelandic and very serious.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: And so I learned a lesson, don't be chatty kathy
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: with customs. And I have to remember to bring a
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: letter now than to bring five kids. Because then he
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: asked the kids, is your dad? Does your dad know
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: that you're taking this trip? And they were like, and
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: what's what's so funny is that I had put the
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: fear of God in them about being serious with customs,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: and then I was like flippant, chatty kathy, and so
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: they all were like, yes, sir, yes, our father knows
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: yes and.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: And I was the idiot that was like it is
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: he is gonna be cute and sharby.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Wait, it's seth insane in the april, because every
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: man I have ever known isn't like Nick makes this
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: gather five hours. He's a passable Nazi. Won't let me
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: hold any of the documents myself. He's like he's got
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: them strapped into his bag. He chegs them every three minute.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Inch.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: I'm the man in my me in every way, I'm
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: the man in my marriage. Yeah.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he he's on delight. He just he's my
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: shirt book. He carries things that That's the part that
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: I'm going to miss the most. Carries all the things
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: and he's in But this is part of why he
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to travel, because he's just treated like like
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: a like an ogre, like a lump. I carry that,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: carry a balhop, yes, carry that. But I see, honestly,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I think he's a little shelf shocked from our trip
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: on like around Thanksgiving to Puerto Rico, like that was
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: that was a supremely difficult flight home.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's the horrible thing about like one bad experiences.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: It really does put you off for a while. Like
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: I think if Daphnely's first fly didn't go so well
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: and we realized that all of our anxiety was like ridiculous.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Like I was obsessed the night before. I was like,
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: how am I going to get this baby to steep
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: through the flight? And then she was wide awake for
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: the plan and she was fine. And somebody actually taxed
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: me because I was asking everybody for advice the night before.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Somebody texts me saying, just whatever you do, don't psych
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: yourself out, but about them having to be asleep, just
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: like learning the wake, it's fine and yeah you didn't
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: feel about it and it's true.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, I mean that I just I don't know,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I just I don't care. Like the travel to be
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: is so worth it and it was so fun. I mean,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: like we have that whole reco triop was hard. I
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: really will say. Like our third kid, who was seven,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: we were hiking in the rainforest. I'd bite off more.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: Than I can show this is like a common theme.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: And so we were hiking in the rainforest. We were
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: not prepared. I did not choose the site properly. I
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: was just I was going a little too much by
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: the seat of our pants. And so we hit a
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: rough spot and it got to the point where Seth
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: had to hold one kid and I had to hold another,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: and the older three kids were hiking through the actual water,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: and our seven year old slipped and fell very very
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: like I thought he broke his tailbone. He might have
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: broken his tailbone, I don't know, but he got very
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: very hurt. And we were literally in the middle of
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: the jungle and it was like not terrain that we
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: could walk holding a baby, and yet we were. And
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: then we had a seven year old who was hysterically crying,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: really hurt, couldn't walk, and she had to carry him,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: and then I had to carry both babies. And it
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: was rough, and that happened. I got sick one night.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: One night, I was throwing up all day. One day
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: he went to the beach, or he went to the
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: pool alone with all the kids that day that I
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: was peeking my guts out the whole day. And then
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: the flight home, so Anyway, Puerto Rico was a very
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: difficult trip.
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  Speaker 3: But don't let that put you off, guys.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: But that was the worst I mean, and that was
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of it was my poor planning, Like I
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: did not choose that hike properly, and you know, the
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: flight home was the flight home. But they were champs
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: and they came home. They still talk about how they
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: want to go back to Puerto Rico, and Seth and
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: I were like, I don't know that I'd be off
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: the list. They had a great time and like, Paris
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: was the best week of my life. Yeah, whatever, if
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: it's hard, it's hard, but I don't have a two
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: year old, so it'll be easy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be easy. And London's a delight so
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: except for the gray.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Skuys in the rain, but yeah, I mean we're going
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: May okay, beautiful time to go.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I didn't really realize how gray the UK
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: will was until I moved to you. But yeah, but
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: I think, I.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Mean, so we're we're gonna do like Churchill war Rooms,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: British Museum, Big Bend Tower of London, you know, like
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: all the tourist stuff, Like about the only thing I'm
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: going crazy about is do you have you ever heard
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: of the Warwick Castle?
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: None.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: It's just it's like a real castle that they've basically
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: turned into like a little amusement park.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Right do you say? Hang on? You say that's so funny?
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: Say it again? Say that. You say the name of
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: the castle Warwick? Okay, So if that's somebody's name, how
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: would you say it Warwick? That's crazy? How would you
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: say it Warwick for both the name and the castle. Yeah?
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: I hate an American say Warwick the other day, like
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: the first time is somebody's name And I was like, Nah,
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: that's going to be a one off it. He just
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: doesn't know how to say it. But apparently that's how
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: you guys say it. Yes, that's crazy. Yeah.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna go there and it's like an hour.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: It's like an hour out of London hour and a half.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: And so I think that's going to be the only
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: question mark is that I have to get from there
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: to I want to do Harry Potter before we leave,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: and so I was thinking of going from there to
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Harry Potter and I think I'm I'm gonna have to
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: get a taxi service.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: Of some kind.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: But it also has to have like car seats. It's
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: like North of London?
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: Is that like the Hypeota Like?
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: How No, so it's like the Warner Brothers A cool
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, I have to look more into it,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: but that that is the only real question work of
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: how I'm gonna get from one point A to point
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: B because I'm not renting a car.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't know how I'm.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Gonna fit six people into Like, I don't know how I'm.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: Gonna do that trying I would get the train. I
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: don't know if there is.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: It's just gonna take a really long time. Yeah, because
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have I'm gonna take the train to the castle,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: but then I'm gonna have to take the train back
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: and then I think.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: I'm might have to do that and just make kind
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: of a v you gonna take. It's gonna take like
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: three hours and beat a different day. Yeah, probably. Yeah. Okay,
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Well I think this is a good place to end. Yeah. Yeah,
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