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David Kaplan talks Bears, Vegas & the Cubs, Sam Bernabe of the I-Cubs on retirement & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  We're #2 welcome back. It's Miller and Condon.
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  It's the Iowa Sports Radio Network flag shipped on Des
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  Moines sports station one O 6.3 KX&O still to come this hour,
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  Sam Burnaby, the four decade plus general manager of the Iowa
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  Cubs. He announced after the season
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  ended on Sunday that the season his career coming to an end.
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  Sam Burnaby will join Trent and I in about 20 minutes.
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  Let's get to Cappy. He's headed to Vegas.
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  The next two weeks, he's going to Vegas for two weeks.
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  Well, no, no, no, no. There's a return trip in
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  between. It's living right in the world
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  of David. Kaplan God Kap, how are you?
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  Good to talk to you. Back-to-back weeks in Vegas,
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  that can take a toll. It can.
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  It definitely can. Good to be with you guys as
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  always, No. So we're taking the entire radio
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  station on Air staff. Tomorrow.
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  Night to for the Bears, Raiders. So I'm we land at 10:00 if we're
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  on time tomorrow night, Vegas time, midnight Chicago time, and
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  I'm on the air for my morning show, 4:00 AM Vegas time Friday
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  morning, Jonathan Hood and I and the set is literally at the
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  pool. So I will be at the pool at
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  Mandalay Bay at 4:00 AM. I'm on 4 to 7 Vegas time and
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  then I'm just going to drag my carcass to the to the back to
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  the pool and lay out there and get some sleep.
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  But when we land tomorrow night, I'm not a guy who can grab like
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  2 hours of sleep and get up and go to work.
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  So I'm just going to go to the tables and stay up.
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  We did a whole thing on it today.
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  I'm going to stay up until we're on at 4315.
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  I'll cash out or stagger over to the set and do the show and then
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  I come home Sunday morning. I'm not going to the game.
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  I'm coming back and then next Thursday I'm taking my wife for
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  her birthday. We're going to see the Eagles at
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  the spear. Nice, nice, well done, great
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  present. Well look, the Mandalay's great
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  for for games of the legion, you walk across the Interstate.
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  They they closed whatever St. that is.
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  So within walking if you if you're going to a game there and
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  you want to walk, that's the that's the property to stay at
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  or the Luxor, any of the properties at the South end of
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  the strip. So so that's that's pretty cool
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  and I can't wait to hear about this fear when we talk to you in
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  two weeks. But I look forward to catching
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  up with you next week as well. So lots to get to, Cap.
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  Obviously, we'll get to the Cubs, who haven't won a game
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  since they clinched their playoff spot.
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  But got to start with the Bears and they just pounded the
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  Cowboys. Luther Burden, both you and
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  Trent and wondering when he's going to make his debut as a
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  bear make at least do something, be allowed to do something.
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  He certainly had a big game against the against the Cowboys
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  Sunday. So, Cap, I guess we'll just
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  throw an open question to you. What did you see?
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  What did you like? And have the Bears turned a
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  corner was, you know, tap the brakes?
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  You need to see more. Yeah, I got to see more, but I
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  loved what I watched. Now, look, that Eberfussen's
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  defense terrible. Some of that I thought the
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  scheme was was not good. There were too many open
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  receivers. I mean, what are you doing
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  there? But also they didn't put any
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  pressure on Caleb. He was never sacked.
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  Well, Michael Parsons plays, unfortunately for the Packers
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  now for Dallas fans. So, you know, put all that in
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  perspective. However, I've watched the film,
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  I have made my notes. I have talked with Olen Kreutz
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  and Tommy Waddle and we're all in agreement that as you watch
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  the film, watch Caleb's footwork.
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  His footwork was quiet, he wasn't all over the place, off
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  balance, and he's got sick ability.
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  Flea flicker play, go back. I just urge everyone watch the
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  play, but watch it and slow it down and watch DeAndre Swift.
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  Nobody's even talking about it. DeAndre Swift goes to the line
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  and he gets hit in the shoulder as he's trying to pitch it back.
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  Most guys wouldn't get the pitch back there.
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  He threw it, it went high in the air, but he was able to get it
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  back there. And then most guys quit on the
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  play. That's just a natural reaction.
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  All right, I did my job. That dude turns and chips a
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  linebacker and drills him. Otherwise, that guy's sacking
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  Caleb and Caleb Williams basically flat footed the
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  longest completion in the NFL this year, 65.2 yards.
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  It was a dime. It was unbelievable,
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  unbelievable. Really good catch by Luther
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  Burden. Tommy Waddle played in the
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  league at wide receiver for a long time.
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  He said that is not an easy play.
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  Everyone be like, well, that was an easy catch, he said.
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  Absolutely not. Your momentum is carrying you
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  towards out of bounds. You got to locate that ball high
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  in the sky and you're wondering if you're going to get lit up,
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  he said. I'm just telling you that was a
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  hell of a play on every level. So Dennis Allen much maligned a
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  couple weeks ago after that performance against the Lions
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  when they were run out of the building, given up 52 points.
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  They gave up just 14, including a shutout in the second-half
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  against the Cowboys. Had a couple interceptions, one
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  late was a desperation play, one off a tip.
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  But what have you seen signs of this defense is I don't think
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  it's going to be good by any means and maybe averages the top
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  watermark that they can hit this year, but signs of improvement.
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  What did you see out of the Bears D?
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  Tyreke Stevenson had his best game as a pro, without a doubt.
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  He had that huge strip of Javonte Williams.
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  After the Bears score the first touchdown, they they run the
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  ball right down the field on the Bears and I'm thinking, well,
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  it's going to be a shootout. And Tyreke Stevenson finds a way
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  to come from behind and not punch it out like Tina Tillman.
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  He rips the ball out, get his feet down so he's in bounds
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  Bears ball. That is a massive, massive play
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  and then the bears end up you know, driving the ball down late
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  in the first half. It called commet for a touchdown
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  and then the 19 play drive was just crazy.
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  But the defense did a really good job in the second-half.
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  They got a couple sacks on DAC. They the pick there was 2 by
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  Terrell Edmonds, Tremaine Edmonds there was 2.
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  But the one where people went off the hands of George Pickens
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  and he made a diving catch, that was insane athleticism.
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  Not many could make that play. Cap, I guess if we're picking
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  Nets, you still have to get the run game going.
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  Is that fair that nobody's really taken this running game
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  and and and, you know, asserted themselves and become the guy
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  Swift, I think led the team, but his his stats were inferior to
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  most other running back ones in the league, right.
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  Yeah, they averaged as a team 3 yards of carry, I believe.
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  Didn't rush for 100 yards. Caleb obviously had a monster
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  day with 298. And as I watched that, that
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  offensive line, I thought they played a really solid football
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  game. They did.
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  They kept it Caleb clean, but that 19 play drive, give Ben
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  Johnson credit, they ran the ball, I want to say like 9
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  consecutive, 10 consecutive plays.
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  Even if they picked up a yard, we're slamming it back in there.
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  And then when you needed it, Swift would move the sticks.
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  So I'm cool that their run game is developing.
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  I think it's essential this weekend to beat the Raiders.
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  You're going to have to be able to run the football and you're
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  going to have to be able to stop the football, stop the run.
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  If you can't stop the run, you're dead.
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  You can take the run away and you can run the football.
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  The world is your oyster. And that offensive line for the
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  Raiders has been bad. Sweat had a really good game
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  Sunday and definitely need that to continue.
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  I don't think we can overstate the importance of this game.
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  Cap by week coming up afterwards one and three start if you lose
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  it and then facing three of your next 4 on the road after you
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  come off the by, including Rd. trips to Washington.
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  Commanders aren't going anywhere.
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  Baltimore and Cincinnati, who knows what they're going to look
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  like in early November regardless.
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  Three out of four on the road. It's very simple.
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  This is as close to a must win as you can have in September.
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  Yeah, I, I've always, I think I've told you guys this a
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  billion times. I've been on with, you know,
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  some iteration of the show, Kenny and I've been doing stuff
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  together. What 25?
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  Years. Yep.
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  A long time. I've always said to you there is
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  no such thing as a must win unless you're getting
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  eliminated. If you lose period, because you
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  could, could lose the Dallas game and wake up and you still
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  have a ton of your season left to play.
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  You have 14 to go, Anything could happen.
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  But I did believe that Dallas game was like trenches said, as
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  close to a must win because if you go to O and three with a new
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  coach and a struggling quarterback, you go, oh boy, now
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  what's going to happen? You could then theoretically
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  think, we're going to buy it O and four and the season's over.
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  You're not going to the playoffs.
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  So that was a massive, massive statement.
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  When and before the game kicked off, I bet the bears -9 1/2
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  alternate line. I did that.
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  My two big plays. I bet the bears -9 1/2 and then
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  I bet Caleb Williams over 225-252-7500 and 325.
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  And so I hit 298. So I lost the last two, but
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  those were small plays at long odds.
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  They were 8 to 1 to get 325, but the bears ±9 1/2.
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  I thought they were going to pump that team this weekend.
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  I think they're going to win and to get to 2 and two and have
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  that had a steam up. I'm with Trent.
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  This is a massive game. I don't care how you win it.
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  You have to get on that charter to get home at 2:00 and 2:00.
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  Pad in the bankroll before he head to Vegas.
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  Never a bad thing to do. That's exactly correct.
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  All right, let's talk. Let's talk about the Cubs.
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  They clinched. They haven't won a game since
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  they had they blew a big lead in the baseball game again last
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  night. Kate Horton comes out after
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  three. I think it's precautionary.
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  I hope it's precautionary. Was it precautionary Cap?
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  It's what it sounds like. I've had, you know, one of those
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  coughs where it just hurts your chest and you feel it in your
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  back. That's what he's had.
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  He's been dealing with some type of a bug and there's been other
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  guys in there that have been sick.
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  So like, if they took him out to manage his innings in a game
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  that you had to have, I would have blasted them.
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  But when I heard little tightness in the back were just
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  being safe, a precautionary thing, I was like, all right,
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  that's smart. I got you.
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  I'm glad you did it. So we'll see where this goes.
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  It sounds like he's going to be fine and he'll pitch in the
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  playoffs next week. Who starts game one?
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  I'm not sure what they're going to do.
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  They haven't really tipped their hand around there at all.
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  I talked to a former Major League pitching coach and he's a
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  buddy of mine. He called me the other day.
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  I said if you were the Cubs pitching coach, who would you
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  start in game one here or in San Diego?
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  It looks like it still could be LA.
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  They haven't clinched the division.
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  They're 1 1/2 up, he said 1000%. Matthew Boyd.
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  Really. I go really?
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  He said 1000%. I said not me.
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  He's like, well you're wrong. I said tell me why?
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  He said why would you start the rookie?
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  He said I would have him in Game 2, take the pressure off.
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  He said it's a playoff game, there's still going to be
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  pressure on you. But he said I would start him in
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  Game 2 because you watch Matthew Boyd in the playoffs last year
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  with Cleveland, he was great. Yep, he was tremendous.
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  He said that guy is built for those moments.
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  I'd start him if he struggled. I got Colin Ray, who's not going
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  to start a playoff game. Use him as my long man and then
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  shrink your bullpen usage. He said I have Jameson Tayo and
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  I can use and they said I'd start Kate Horton Game 2, show
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  to Imanaga game 3. Matthew Boyd's last five starts
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  he's given up 4IN runs 424 and five.
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  He's not been the same Matthew Boyd cap as of late.
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  I agree. I agree, but he believes I said
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  that to him. He's like that dude's built for
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  a big moment. He will pitch well, so we'll
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  see. Kyle Tucker back with the team,
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  though not playing with the team, and that still remains on
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  pause at this time. Fill us in on the details.
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  Kyle, Tucker and Eddie hope that he'll be part of the playoff
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  roster. They say he will be.
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  They said yesterday he worked out that he'll be ADH, they
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  hope, and that he felt good yesterday.
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  OK, so I'll take them at their word that he felt good.
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  Let's see how he woke up this morning after running in the
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  outfield and see how he feels. But yeah, I need his bat back.
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  I do. He's a too good a player to not
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  impact the series. Yeah, I agree with you PCA
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  there's he's down at the bottom of the lineup.
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  His counsel have him in the in the rights, but in the batting
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  order. Yeah, he hasn't hit the ball the
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  last month or so very well. So I would take, I wouldn't have
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  him in the middle of my line up yesterday.
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  This guy struggled with bunting and I love PCA.
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  Somebody's been working with him because he got a beautiful
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  sacrifice bunt down yesterday and just his form, everything,
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  how he squared around it, got it down.
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  I'm like, somebody's working with that guy.
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  And you know, it's funny, my producer Shay at ESPN, he wanted
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  to bet me that he'd be a 4040 guy when he was hitting all
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  those home runs. And I said, you want to bet me
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  he may not even be a 3030 guy. He's like, oh, stop, I'm not
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  going to take your money. Well, unless he hits a home run
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  in the last few days of the season, he's stuck at 29.
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  Did. You make the bet.
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  He would. He didn't want to take it.
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  He goes, I don't want to take it.
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  OK, OK, so. The Cubs, after feeling like for
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  the last month they're basically locked into the spot, top wild
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  car they'll be hosting likely the Padres.
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  Now there's a chance they're going on the road for San Diego.
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  Could you make any kind of case though?
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  This team with the struggles going out there, they've hit a
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  lot better on the road this season than they had at home.
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  That maybe in a short series just getting away from Wrigley
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  could be a good thing and maybe kick this kick, kick start this
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  team, excuse me. And maybe I'm looking for any
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  kind of silver lining if they blow this one.
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  No, I would say no. If you blow this, that means
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  your magic number is 4. Right now you're 1 1/2 up.
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  That means San Diego is smoking hot going into the playoffs or
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  LA if San Diego runs them down. And it means you are ice cold.
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  Ice cold. I mean, are you telling me
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  they're going to lose, let's call it one of the next two
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  against the Mets and then lose the series to the Cardinals?
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  Yeah. Then I don't have any hope that
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  they're going to advance if you're that bad for that kind of
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  stretch. No, no, I don't see any silver
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  lining. I want them at Wrigley.
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  I'm hoping it gets a little chilly and the Padres
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  committing. This is horrible.
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  It's cold here. Cap of when will they announce
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  who's coming back in the booth next year?
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  I guess I'm hoping I I'm a book Shambi guy.
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  I I love him and JD together. I do too.
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  Do you think that that'll be the case next year?
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  I haven't heard anything different.
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  I don't know why John would leave.
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  Like, I'm a huge John Shambi fan.
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  I think he's a good person. I just, I really like him.
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  So I mean, I can't believe he would leave.
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  I don't know where he would go. I'm sure people would want him,
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  but why would he leave here? To give up the Cubs gig.
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  Yeah. Maybe, I guess if you're hearing
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  something. No, I'm not.
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  I just, I just love listening to him and it's, it's the fan in me
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  hoping that that's what I'm going to be entertained by next
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  summer. Yeah, and see my advice to
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  Marquis. I think they make it terrible
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  mistake and far be it from me that think I'm running their
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  station, but I'll give them advice anyway.
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  Just use JD 98%. Of the time.
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  Stop having 72 different analysts.
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  Yeah, it drives me nuts. OK, this is not a shot at Ryan
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  Sweeney. I don't need Ryan Sweeney on the
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  pregame and then Carlos Pena on the post game and then this.
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  Give me a little Ryan Dempster and give me JD and Boob Shami.
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  I'm good. And Alex, I love Alex's, you
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  know, the fill in. If I play, I think he's the
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  star. I think he's going to be great.
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  But. Not yet.
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  No, he's not at. Boobs level.
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  No, he's not. Continue to refine his craft,
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  but I think he's very good. Final thing for me, Cap full
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  circle back to Vegas, said he's going to be playing table games.
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  We know you're going to be firing at sports and betting on
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  all that throughout the course of the weekend.
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  What is your table game of choice?
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  You blackjack guy? You like to roll the dice and
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  play some craps? You baccarat guy?
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  What? What's the table game that we'll
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  see Cappy at from about midnight till 4:00 AM?
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  Jeez. That'll be blackjack, maybe a
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  little craps. I don't know how to play
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  baccarat, so that's. It's easy.
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  You put your money up there and then they just take it.
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  That's what I learned last time we were in Vegas.
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  Yeah, I don't know how to do it. So yeah, I'm going to play
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  blackjack and I just sit down and I try to, you know, play the
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  right way. Sometimes it sucks when you're
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  like, oh God, I got to split that and I've got I pressed my
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  bet, but either play it the right way or don't play.
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  So I I can not the guy who's going to be like, I'm going to
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  guess this time I'm sticking on 16 against the dealers 8.
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  No, sorry, play the right way. Cap, I'm going to make you a
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  star. Well, you already are a star,
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  but in your in your colleagues eyes that head out to Las Vegas
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  and stay with you guys. So the shops of Mandalay Bay,
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  it's between the Luxor and the Mandalay Bay.
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  There's an Irish bar called re raw.
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  The food is unbelievable. The entertainment is
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  unbelievable. The drinks are unbelievable.
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  It's a big place. It's in the shops of Mandalay
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  Bay. It's called re raw RERAI think
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  it is it's. I'm gonna.
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  Go. You should and and tell
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  everybody that's on the flight if they're looking for some
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  place to go. You don't have to leave the
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  property. You go up the escalator to the
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  shops of Mandalay Bay. It's on your left, about halfway
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  between Mandalay and the Luxor. You'll be glad you did, and
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  you'll be a star in your colleagues eyes.
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  My friend, you have a good trip and we will talk to you next
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  Wednesday, Cap. Can't wait to hear about it.
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  All right, buddy. You'll get an update on how the
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  gambling is going. Absolutely, and a critique on
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  rerun. Good to talk to you buddy.
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  You got a game for me, By the way, I bet the heck out of Iowa
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  the other day, so thank you. Winner.
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  Winner. Chicken dinner there over
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  Rutgers. Yeah.
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  What do you got for me? I need a college game.
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  You got anything? I.
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  Really like Kansas this week? They're late, 4 1/2 at home
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  against Cincinnati. That was the first one that
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  jumped off the page to me this week.
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  There you go, The Jayhawks chapter.
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  See you buddy, talk to you next week.
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  Yep, David Kaplan, Good stuff out of KAPI re raw.
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  Re Raw, you've talked about it a lot.
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  We were forever. We were scheduled to go there
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  one time and I don't know what happened.
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  You guys were maybe going over to gamble on horses, Yeah?
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  Kel and I were probably my son and I probably going to bet the.
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  Horses and then something and then you guys decided not to
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  that there's something that happened, but it's going to
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  happen. It's it's, it's, it's
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  Sam Burnaby, long time GM of the Iowa Cubs.
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  He joins Trenton Inex Miller and Condon talking sports with you
• 20:39
  on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 20:42
  Hi, welcome back Miller and Condon Iowa Sports Radio
• 20:44
  Network. We're listening in the state of
• 20:46
  Iowa. We are grateful that you are
• 20:48
  well after 4 decades. This is an appropriate song.
• 20:52
  Although I don't think Sam was at the helm of the icubs when
• 20:54
  this song was actually came out. But man, it feels like it's
• 20:58
  sometimes Sam Burnaby been doing a long time, my friend, as
• 21:01
  Sunday the season comes to an end.
• 21:03
  You gathered everybody around home plate made the
• 21:05
  announcement. What a great way to go out.
• 21:07
  What a great career. Congratulations, my friend.
• 21:10
  Good to talk to you. Sam, how are you?
• 21:12
  Oh, thanks guys. You know, it was, it was more
• 21:16
  emotional than I anticipated to be, but.
• 21:18
  A. Fun way to do it and I wouldn't
• 21:21
  had it any other way with my staff.
• 21:22
  You know the, the most of them have been with me for a long
• 21:27
  time, decades and in most cases. And, and it was I wanted them to
• 21:33
  know it was a pretty well kept, closely guarded secret for a
• 21:37
  while and I wanted them to know 1st.
• 21:38
  And we did everything we could to try to make that happen that
• 21:41
  way. Well, since we announced that
• 21:42
  you're coming on, I've had three people reach on.
• 21:44
  I promised I would say something, would pass it along.
• 21:47
  So I better do this before we run on the show.
• 21:49
  Tom Lemers, I wanted to say his appreciation to what you do for
• 21:53
  for Matt, who apparently suffers from Down syndrome.
• 21:56
  Kenny Thompson wishes you all the best.
• 21:58
  And Brad Chifus, apparently you pitched pretty well when you
• 22:01
  were at Valley High School back in the day.
• 22:04
  Says you had a hell of a curveball, but you were always
• 22:08
  not not disappointed. But you're working on your
• 22:10
  fastball, so those three folks reached out and sent your best
• 22:13
  along. So I want.
• 22:14
  To make sure I did that. Great guys, I always had trouble
• 22:16
  getting chef out and. It's nice, it's good stuff.
• 22:20
  Well, Salem as as we look back upon it in a minor League
• 22:24
  Baseball and it's changed here in the state as we are now
• 22:26
  statewide across the whole state.
• 22:28
  And some of those communities have lost their minor league
• 22:30
  teams, though they still have the team fear on the local level
• 22:33
  in Des Moines, the Iowa Cubs. You know, when I moved here,
• 22:36
  I've never been to an Iowa Cubs, though I've lived in Iowa my
• 22:38
  whole life until I moved here when I was 2324.
• 22:42
  I've never been to an I Cubs game.
• 22:43
  The gem of a ballpark that it is.
• 22:45
  But I've also heard the stories. It hasn't always been the case.
• 22:48
  So just talk about the transformation, what you guys
• 22:51
  have done to the stadium and and built up what Iowa Cubs baseball
• 22:54
  has been throughout the years well.
• 22:56
  When I started in 1983, most of the day was was related to just
• 23:00
  trying to get the, the old building safe.
• 23:04
  You know, the first thing in the morning everybody had to do.
• 23:06
  There was only, there's only six of us that worked in the
• 23:08
  operation. First thing we had to do is go
• 23:10
  pump the sewage out of each dugout in order to make sure
• 23:13
  that we be ready to go and dry by the end of the day, wash
• 23:16
  everything down and, and you know, then you had, you had to
• 23:20
  clean and then you had to roll hot dogs and you had to load the
• 23:23
  novelty shacks. And, and you know, that was,
• 23:26
  that was the way baseball started for me.
• 23:28
  And it really was a great thing because I got to learn how to do
• 23:31
  all the things appropriately rather than, you know, whether
• 23:35
  we were doing them right or doing them wrong, we were doing
• 23:37
  them. And it was all about experience.
• 23:39
  And so that was, those are the things that molded my decision
• 23:43
  making on anything that was related to the operation moving
• 23:46
  forward. You know, then we got to the
• 23:48
  point where the expenses just weren't, I mean they were going
• 23:51
  to exceed the revenues and we couldn't keep up with the
• 23:53
  revenues in the old ballpark. And it came down to a decision
• 23:56
  that for the communities or, you know, where we, you know, do
• 23:59
  something different or we're going to have to move out of
• 24:01
  town. And, and frankly, the folks, the
• 24:03
  owners of the team, they still own the team in Grand Rapids,
• 24:06
  MI. They were sitting, I always say
• 24:08
  they were sitting in a hotel all just outside of town waiting to
• 24:11
  hear the vote when it went to referendum in 1991 as to whether
• 24:15
  or not we were going to be able to get a new stadium build.
• 24:17
  And it wasn't even closed. Fortunately, the community voted
• 24:21
  overwhelmingly to knock the old one down and build the new and
• 24:23
  the winter 91 for opening day 92.
• 24:26
  And, and that's what sits there now.
• 24:28
  Hope plates actually been in the same spot since 1947, but the
• 24:32
  the building that's there now is opening day 92 to what it is.
• 24:36
  We obviously did some additions and remodeling and whatnot, but
• 24:40
  it's it's basically the bones are the same.
• 24:42
  What was the the flood of 93? Was that maybe one of the low
• 24:46
  points? I mean, it's just we all seen
• 24:48
  the pictures. If we live here, we've seen
• 24:49
  them, you know, over the, over the time.
• 24:51
  What was that like, Sam? Take us back to the flood of
• 24:53
  1993, when the ballpark was essentially underwater.
• 24:57
  Well, it was, it was during the All Star break.
• 24:58
  In fact, this last July was very similar to the weather pattern
• 25:01
  that we had. It was 10 or 11 days of
• 25:04
  consecutive inches, multiple inches of rain.
• 25:09
  And, and it was right during the All Star break.
• 25:11
  In fact, I was headed to Albuquerque for the AAA All Star
• 25:14
  game and I looked at my wife and his We're on our way to the
• 25:17
  airport and I said I'm going to end up coming back here in
• 25:19
  another day or two. Sure enough, I did.
• 25:21
  And of course, everybody else stayed down in Albuquerque and
• 25:26
  enjoyed the All Star break because there was no reason for
• 25:28
  anybody to come back with the water turned off all the
• 25:31
  troubles. So I came back and ended up
• 25:33
  standing on the levee the South side of the Rackland River and
• 25:37
  bawled like a baby watching my brand new field be be
• 25:40
  underwater. And and then I proceeded to go
• 25:42
  up to Johnny's Hall of Fame and sandbag.
• 25:44
  So we had to protect the interest of the area.
• 25:48
  So it's all I could do. And so that was really tough.
• 25:53
  It was, but fortunately we were out of town the entire time that
• 25:58
  we left town the day before they turned the water off and in
• 26:01
  downtown and we're in Des Moines and we got back two days after
• 26:04
  they about three days after they turned it back on and the city,
• 26:08
  to their credit, jumped in with the with sanitation crews and
• 26:11
  disaster crews and cleaned everything up.
• 26:14
  And we didn't miss a date. We didn't miss a home game
• 26:16
  because of the flooding. And this because of the way the
• 26:18
  schedule fell over the All Star break and the extended run of
• 26:22
  dates out. Everybody, everybody did what
• 26:24
  they needed to do and we didn't, we didn't miss a miss a game.
• 26:27
  And really we felt like, in fact, I think the next two or
• 26:30
  three days we opened the gates up.
• 26:31
  In fact, we had a temptations concert schedule the day back
• 26:35
  and we just opened the gates up and let anybody in that wanted
• 26:37
  to commit. We didn't charge anything.
• 26:39
  Everybody was so meet up with with weather and flooding and
• 26:42
  disaster. And so we just felt it was the
• 26:44
  right thing to do to try to get open and give somebody, somebody
• 26:48
  something else to think about other than what they were, their
• 26:50
  trials and tribulations of what. So that's how we got back open.
• 26:54
  But it was, it was a really tough time for everybody.
• 26:56
  Walking to Johnny's Hall of Fame, a trip that I know we've
• 26:58
  made a number of times back in the day.
• 27:00
  Right back. Yes, we.
• 27:02
  Did. Oh my God, long time ago.
• 27:04
  Sorry, Trent. Yes, we did.
• 27:07
  No problem at all. Love those stories and love
• 27:09
  looking back upon this career. So obviously you've had some
• 27:14
  stars that have made their way through.
• 27:16
  Give us a story or two or or a name that jumps out.
• 27:19
  What do you think of the great players that have made their way
• 27:21
  through to Boyne? Guys that you had an opportunity
• 27:23
  to interact with? Anything that jumps to the top
• 27:25
  of the mind when I talk about some of those stars.
• 27:29
  I think the first name that probably and really the one
• 27:32
  stands out more than any is, is watching Sean Dunstan do do what
• 27:38
  he did. And while he did it in Des
• 27:40
  Moines and then and then his career that he had after that,
• 27:44
  just absolutely the most unbelievable baseball athlete
• 27:47
  I've ever seen and have seen since, I think and.
• 27:50
  And more so than hobby. Been a lot of yeah, it was.
• 27:54
  It was at the time. It was a much more controlled.
• 27:57
  Type of player, even though he was even younger than Javi, was
• 28:01
  coming through. Sean could do things.
• 28:04
  He could throw the baseball and swing the bat and field it like
• 28:08
  like I'd never seen and really haven't seen since.
• 28:11
  His arm strength was just incredible.
• 28:13
  It'd stand there during BP and have some fun and just casually
• 28:18
  stand behind home plate and throw the ball over the center
• 28:20
  field wall without any effort. Throw it.
• 28:23
  You know, he'd go deep in the hole and shortstop behind third
• 28:26
  base and throw it across the diamond and overthrow first base
• 28:29
  and literally throw it through the the mesh wire that was there
• 28:32
  in the old ballpark. And it was just amazing to watch
• 28:35
  the arm speed and the bat speed and his running speed.
• 28:38
  You talk about A5 tool player, he was just he was 6 tools.
• 28:42
  He was just unbelievable how good he was of.
• 28:44
  Course, she had some Hall of Farmers Greg Maddox jumps off
• 28:47
  the list. I mean, one of the best ever do
• 28:48
  it right? But he's not alone, Sam.
• 28:51
  Well, you know, Greg was just so special to watch and you didn't
• 28:55
  really know what you were watching at the time.
• 28:57
  I mean, it was it was a pitcher that it just a fine pitching and
• 29:03
  and he learned how to pitch it in in Des Moines and on the Iowa
• 29:07
  Cubs and, and actually went back and forth a time or two between
• 29:10
  the big club and us. And I think he he probably
• 29:14
  credits a lot of what he did learn from Dick Pole, who was
• 29:17
  our long time pitching coach in Des Moines.
• 29:19
  And then Dick was in the big leagues for a good run after
• 29:22
  that. And and he when he came to
• 29:24
  Chicago, he spend this whole time with Dick Pole doing his
• 29:29
  thing and and you know, that's he just he was a pitcher and
• 29:34
  that was so special to watch it. But you didn't really know what
• 29:36
  you were watching until he was winning Cy Young's and gold
• 29:41
  gloves. And you know, some of the
• 29:43
  statistics, the big league level are just, I mean, just they're
• 29:46
  just nutty. You can't even think about the
• 29:49
  success and what he meant. You know what he meant to
• 29:52
  pitching and how he pitched on and off, you know, in and out of
• 29:56
  Des Moines and then of course in Chicago was and Atlanta was just
• 29:59
  unbelievable. Sam, I know there's a lot of
• 30:02
  parts of the job I'm sure you'll miss and just being able to be
• 30:04
  at the ballpark every day. But there's the other side.
• 30:06
  What is the one thing that you're not going to miss?
• 30:08
  That you're happy now in retirement?
• 30:10
  I don't have to deal with this ever again.
• 30:13
  I get really tired of having a look at the damn radar.
• 30:19
  I have three, I have 3. Radars on my on my screen in my
• 30:23
  office at all times with the teams in town and it just I get
• 30:29
  really wore out with trying to predict the weather and trying
• 30:32
  to help everybody understand what they need to do in the
• 30:35
  operation. Chris Losser and I work work.
• 30:39
  He works his magic with whatever weather he's given and I try to
• 30:42
  help him understand what that weather is going to be in and
• 30:45
  he's he's even more meteorologist than I am, but
• 30:49
  that's that's I won't miss that. I've hope I hope I've helped
• 30:53
  Randy way over understand all the nuances of the goofy weather
• 30:58
  in central Iowa that he'll be able to make good decisions as
• 31:02
  well. And and he's he's he's already
• 31:04
  done a number of times of that. So he's well polished and would
• 31:07
  be terrific figuring out whether or not we should call the game
• 31:10
  or worry about lightning or, or it's too much rain to to not put
• 31:15
  the tarp down overnight. Or, you know, how long do we
• 31:19
  wait it out before we start the starting pitchers so we don't
• 31:22
  burn the pitchers. You know, it's just all kinds of
• 31:24
  decisions. Go with weather directly and of
• 31:26
  course safety and you know fan safety and all of that with the
• 31:29
  with the stadium is the first formal.
• 31:31
  Yeah, and the teams have good hands with Randy as well.
• 31:34
  Way over. Want to see that?
• 31:36
  Last thing for me, Sam, obviously the world champion
• 31:39
  Chicago Cubs 2016. I Cubs had their fingerprints
• 31:44
  all over that team, did they not?
• 31:46
  16 of the 25 on the roster were had played played in Des Moines
• 31:51
  at some point within the couple of years there.
• 31:54
  And that was certainly the high point of of my cub career is is
• 31:59
  as I guess it would be for anybody to the World Series.
• 32:01
  And and then Mr. Ricketts calling and saying, we'd like to
• 32:05
  we'd like to give you one of those rings.
• 32:08
  It was awful special. I keep it with me as often as I
• 32:12
  can. Certainly down at the stadium.
• 32:14
  I always have it with me. Like to show it off to anybody
• 32:17
  that's a Cub fan or interested in looking at it.
• 32:19
  But it's it was a special time and, and, and I hope we get to
• 32:24
  get to see that again and for too long.
• 32:26
  I think we're pretty good. I'd sure like us to be a little
• 32:29
  bit more on a roll going into the playoffs.
• 32:31
  But let's hang on and then get the three wild card games home
• 32:35
  and Wrigley 1st and then we'll, you know, you can't win the
• 32:37
  tournament if you don't get in the tournament.
• 32:39
  So that's all I do. Well done San Bernabe, well
• 32:42
  done. Great career ended on your own
• 32:44
  terms and it's a heck of a run my friend.
• 32:46
  Well done San Bernabe. Congratulations.
• 32:49
  Thanks guys, I appreciate it. And you know, the one thing I
• 32:51
  think is special about all of it is you're right.
• 32:54
  I I was able to through my ownership group, they gave me
• 32:57
  the ability to, to end it on my terms and, and name my successor
• 33:01
  and, and I'm really proud of that.
• 33:02
  So Randy will be great. I'm looking forward to what all
• 33:05
  comes with the Iowa coach move forward.
• 33:07
  Thanks, Sam. Appreciate it.
• 33:08
  Good to talk. To you.
• 33:08
  Thanks guys. All right.
• 33:09
  Thanks. Yep, see you Sam Bertaby, 4
• 33:12
  decades at the helm of the what a what a career career.
• 33:15
  No else I want to say as well. And it's not always the case.
• 33:18
  Now, well done by the Register. They covered that team all the
• 33:21
  time. Yes, absolutely.
• 33:22
  From Randy Peterson with press box is named after now to our
• 33:25
  friend Tommy Burch, who apparently the bathroom is named
• 33:27
  after now I don't know if that's true or not.
• 33:29
  The Birch bathroom, the Birch bathroom up in the press box on
• 33:32
  that. I've taken a leak in that thing.
• 33:34
  Well, I have two. Yeah, but what a what a career.
• 33:39
  Meaning the floods you were you here in 93?
• 33:41
  No, I was not either. I didn't move here till OH. 60 I
• 33:46
  thought it was early. I thought it was late 90s.
• 33:48
  No, no, I was in college. Yeah, I hadn't a couple years
• 33:52
  afterwards. So yeah, I didn't get down here
• 33:54
  until 06. So I was, well, I was
• 33:57
  sandbagging my dad's house at that time.
• 33:59
  Yeah, up at Osage. Well, New Haven, the little town
• 34:02
  by Osage. And yeah, sandbagging away is
• 34:04
  the waters kept rising. It was the night after my
• 34:09
  grandpa's retirement party. Is that right?
• 34:11
  And I will say the dad and the uncles and the aunts and
• 34:14
  everybody, they were not in great shape to be sandbagging
• 34:19
  the day. Good.
• 34:19
  For them, a lot of. Booze was sweating out that day,
• 34:22
  sandbagging to try to get things all set up.
• 34:24
  That's awesome. I was living in Denver and flew
• 34:27
  back to see my son who was just born and so I saw it from the
• 34:31
  air. Oh, wow, it was unbelievable.
• 34:33
  It was just to watch it from there.
• 34:35
  My God, this where I used to live and it was just all
• 34:37
  underwater. But then see some of the
• 34:39
  pictures. Anyways, your plays of the day
• 34:40
  are coming up next. Thanks Sam Burnaby for doing
• 34:42
  that. We'll take your time out.
• 34:43
  We'll come back. Circus sports sponsors those
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  Miller and Condon. Glad you're with us on Des
• 34:47
  Moines sports station one O 6.3 KXNO final couple of minutes
• 34:51
  here on a Wednesday. Miller and Condon, Iowa Sports
• 34:55
  Radio Network coming up at the top of the hour.
• 34:59
  Off the bench come Sean Roberts and Lucas Strain.
• 35:02
  Take you until 5:00 overtime, Iowa 5 until 6A.
• 35:06
  Snippet from the first quarter. Alec and Heather are there on
• 35:08
  the air, by the way, 6 until 9 from Miller and Condon, then
• 35:11
  likewise with the boys in the afternoon.
• 35:15
  Off the bench to until 5:00. Well, baseball tonight.
• 35:18
  What was the your WNBA play? Did it get home last night?
• 35:22
  Oh, yeah, it did. Good for you.
• 35:24
  Mercury cruised. On home, after being now 20, he
• 35:27
  came back and won in overtime, both series tied up and won a
• 35:30
  piece. It was not a game.
• 35:32
  I flipped on the Fever for a good 10 minutes and they were
• 35:34
  not in competitive. Did Lexi Hall play?
• 35:37
  I heard she was quite. I didn't hear.
• 35:38
  I saw a tweet that she was questioned.
• 35:40
  I think she was out. There was she?
• 35:41
  Yeah. I believe so, yeah.
• 35:43
  I was also reading at the time, so yeah, it wasn't exactly like
• 35:46
  I was locked and loaded, ready to go.
• 35:48
  Yeah. 2:00 and 1:00 last night. Yeah, your one baseball game was
• 35:52
  your your team. The Twins let you down.
• 35:54
  Right. And we got the win with the
• 35:55
  Guardians plus 137, so 2 and one 1.41 units yesterday.
• 36:01
  So we got 4 plays today. Where are you baseballing?
• 36:04
  All baseball, because that's really all there is.
• 36:07
  I also did lock in Team Europe on the Ryder Cup.
• 36:09
  Did you bet them? Plus 170 I'll put in my back.
• 36:12
  Pocket. Are they the better?
• 36:13
  Do they have the better? Most complete roster.
• 36:16
  Oh, I don't think there's any doubt at it.
• 36:17
  I mean, you look at the bottom of the the US team and it's JJ
• 36:21
  Spawn is, I think, out of the debutantes, the one that I like
• 36:24
  the best. Well.
• 36:25
  You because he held it together to win what, the US.
• 36:27
  Yeah. I mean, he's the only one down
• 36:30
  the stretch. Griffin.
• 36:31
  No. Yeah.
• 36:33
  Even guys that have a little experience, I don't.
• 36:35
  It's very rare that you go in that you don't really like the
• 36:38
  roster. It's the first time I can
• 36:39
  remember. This roster kind of stinks.
• 36:41
  And then look at the depth of the European team.
• 36:45
  We'll see. It's going to be fun.
• 36:46
  As long as we can watch maybe a little bit of it.
• 36:48
  Let's watch some baseball. All right, what are we doing?
• 36:50
  We're going right back to the well with the Guardians this
• 36:52
  time. Not getting plus money though we
• 36:53
  are laying it -147. So was the pitching match up.
• 36:57
  It is flirty against Bybee. I will fade.
• 37:01
  You've told me for years to fade flirty so I'll listen to you
• 37:04
  from Okay, I will lay the -140 works.
• 37:07
  I am going back to the well again and fading feeding
• 37:09
  schemes. It's just.
• 37:12
  And hunter green has been. Unbelievable.
• 37:14
  And he has been -111 is what you're going there.
• 37:16
  Give me Weathers. Who's pitched well again?
• 37:20
  Phillies. What do they have left?
• 37:21
  Nothing. Things are locked up.
• 37:23
  Plus 170 in that one and I'm grabbing the Mets plus one O 2
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  against the Cubs. Never bet against the streak.
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  I will not. Is the Cubs still searching for
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  that win? Yeah.
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  Boy, it has not been good. It has not.
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  We shall see, We shall. You shall hear from us tomorrow
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  because we'll be back at noon. We appreciate you being with us.
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  Chant and I talk sports with you every Monday through Friday,
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  noon to two on Des Moines Sports Station One O, 6.3, KX and O,
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  and statewide on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.