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Happy Hour #168: SMNTY Dreams a Dream · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. Welcome to Stuff I
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  Speaker 1: Never told you, production by Her Radio, and welcome to
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  Speaker 1: another edition of Happy Hour. As always, if you are
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  Speaker 1: choosing to drink or whatever you're choosing to do, please
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  Speaker 1: do so responsibly. Samantha, are you drinking anything, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Drinking some caffeine. Your favorite die Doctor Pepper, zero cherry,
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  Speaker 2: oh no, and the cherry. I like the cherry. My
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  Speaker 2: favorite has been the cream soda not a sponsor, not
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  Speaker 2: a sponsor. But also they've been kind of the safe
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  Speaker 2: line because I feel like both the other two major
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  Speaker 2: soda brands are so gross, and die Doctor Pepper actually
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  Speaker 2: has is not affiliated by either, like they don't are
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  Speaker 2: not owned by either of them, so I feel like
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  Speaker 2: a safe choice.
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  Speaker 1: Well it's my enemy and listens and I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I despise Dr Pepper. It's like my number one most
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  Speaker 1: hated flavor. It's quite funny. But one time, behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 1: they approached the other show I'm on Saveror to be
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  Speaker 1: a sponsor, and I was like, are you okay with
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  Speaker 1: me being like outright, I don't like this, but if
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  Speaker 1: you like it, go get it. And we never heard that.
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  Speaker 2: Because because Lauren, You're co host.
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  Speaker 1: She likes it, right, she likes it, and she was like,
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  Speaker 1: I think it could be funny. It could be a
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  Speaker 1: funny one dynamic, and.
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  Speaker 2: It was like, I'm not a huge Dr Pepper fan.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not. The cream soda with Doctor Pepper actually was
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  Speaker 2: like my turning point because I love cream soda. I
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  Speaker 2: love it. I don't drink it often, but I actually
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  Speaker 2: that's one of my favorite like excited, like childhood gettiness,
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  Speaker 2: like oh queen soda. So when they did that with
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  Speaker 2: a Dr Pepper, it made sense to me and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I need to try this, and so
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  Speaker 2: if I have a flavored one, I'm good. Regular Doctor
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  Speaker 2: Pepper is not my thing and I don't. And that's
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  Speaker 2: the other part is that usually people have really strong
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  Speaker 2: feelings like you do, like either they love it or
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  Speaker 2: they hate it, and I'm just like I'm in between.
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  Speaker 1: You're You're anomaly I am.
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  Speaker 2: Because I'm like, I like it this way, but it's
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  Speaker 2: not like, yeah, I'm gonna probably I used to try,
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  Speaker 2: you know, go for the diet coke. I was a DieHarder,
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  Speaker 2: like we're in Atalanta, you're in Georgia coke only, but
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  Speaker 2: they are not the great company in the world. So
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  Speaker 2: there's that.
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  Speaker 1: As always there's that. Well, uh, today we have an
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  Speaker 1: interesting case of synchronicity because Wave links. Yes, Samantha had
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  Speaker 1: planned this Monday Mini that if you're listening to this
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour as it comes out, will be the next
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  Speaker 1: Monday Mini about sleep. And I had actually planned this
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour before I knew that about dreams.
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  Speaker 2: So technically because we recorded mine first, she copied me, No,
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  Speaker 2: I need that to be noted.
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  Speaker 1: Nope.
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  Speaker 2: False.
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  Speaker 1: And it's interesting too because in that Monday Mini, you
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  Speaker 1: were talking about a new study about women and sleep
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  Speaker 1: and disrupted sleep. And I have mentioned on here before.
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  Speaker 1: I feel I just like you. I'm very light sleeper.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure I'm getting good sleep, but I dream
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  Speaker 1: almost every night. Do you dream a lot sleeping?
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  Speaker 2: I have been dreaming a lot more but my dreams
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  Speaker 2: and I think you and I had the SERI I
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  Speaker 2: have a theory about your dreaming as well. Is because
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  Speaker 2: you're such a light sleeper. It's usually typically when I'm
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  Speaker 2: about to wake up and I remember those dreams like
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember like previous dreams, but the like I know,
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  Speaker 2: like as I'm starting to slowly wake up is when
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  Speaker 2: I remember my dreams at those points, and because I've
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  Speaker 2: had more and more moments of like I need to
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  Speaker 2: wake up now, my body's telling me to wake up
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  Speaker 2: because now I'm used to waking up around a certain
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  Speaker 2: time that I remember the dreams and they've all been weird.
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  Speaker 2: One of them was with you. Actually recently we went
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  Speaker 2: to Disney World, but we were in a now like
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  Speaker 2: despised franchise themed limo with my dog okay, and they
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  Speaker 2: the dude was like, I've never had anyone red this
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  Speaker 2: limo out for this long of a time. Congratulations. And
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  Speaker 2: then we went and I needed This is also one
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  Speaker 2: of those dreams where like I have to pee, so
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  Speaker 2: I dreamt that I was trying to find a bathroom
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  Speaker 2: the entire time.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was one of those incorporated dreams, but it
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  Speaker 2: was all of us. Yeah, weird.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to unfact that later to see what
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  Speaker 1: maybe it was going on in your mind.
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  Speaker 2: Any of those movies in a long time, because I've
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  Speaker 2: we've all been so disheartened. Yeah, but she who shall
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  Speaker 2: not be named.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting though, okay, okay, well, oh yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: dream pretty much every night, and I haven't talked about
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  Speaker 1: it on here before. I know it's kind of a
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  Speaker 1: faux pod to talk about your dreams, but I am
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about some tonight because yes, tonight today,
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  Speaker 1: Because well, basically, it's like I think they're interesting. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but the general idea is people can't connect with your
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  Speaker 1: and then I met this celebrity but it was a dream.
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  Speaker 2: So I find people's dreams fascinating.
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  Speaker 1: I do too, I do too, but I do know
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  Speaker 1: that that is a conversation. So if you're already rolling
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  Speaker 1: your eyes, I'm sorry, but we're going to do it,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's going to be interesting, okay, Because
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  Speaker 1: so the study, the new study that came out was
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  Speaker 1: about the science spot behind lucid dreaming, and it was
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  Speaker 1: talking about how it kind of appears in the brain
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  Speaker 1: like LSD or something like drugs, and so they think
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  Speaker 1: that it's a kind of undiscovered pathway of how the
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  Speaker 1: brain works, and the science behind dreams. We're still not
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  Speaker 1: entirely sure what is going on there. The most prevalent
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  Speaker 1: theory is it's just your brain kind of cycling through
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  Speaker 1: any issues you might have or like yeah, memories, But
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  Speaker 1: we don't know so this was kind of a new
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  Speaker 1: study and I thought it was really interesting because I
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  Speaker 1: recently have become excellent at lucid dreaming, and not only that,
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  Speaker 1: I've gotten really good at dream logic, which is basically
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  Speaker 1: when you're in a dream and you're like, this doesn't
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  Speaker 1: make sense, Let's just skip this if you want. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: I like it and I don't skip it, but I
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  Speaker 1: have I can.
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  Speaker 2: That's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, not always, but a lot, a lot more than
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  Speaker 1: I used to be able to. And so one of
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  Speaker 1: the this is the dream story you will get one
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  Speaker 1: of my recent dreams, my brain, I think it was
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  Speaker 1: my brain was trying to teach me a lesson, and
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  Speaker 1: it essentially like I had this dream where I would
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  Speaker 1: go through different scenarios and I would get to the
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  Speaker 1: end and it would stop, and my brain will say
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  Speaker 1: it was like, where did you go wrong? Let's let's
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  Speaker 1: revisit this, and I would do it again, and I
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  Speaker 1: would try to take in the lessons that I have learned.
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  Speaker 2: You containing yourself in your own dream.
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  Speaker 1: So many things, So like the big one that I thought,
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  Speaker 1: I actually woke up and I was like, you right,
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  Speaker 1: I get it, Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Brain, you're correct. Thank you for teaching me this lesson.
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  Speaker 1: All right, all right, I know, but okay, wow? Was
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  Speaker 1: essentially it boiled down to I kept trying to not
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  Speaker 1: ask for help, and so I made things like way worse,
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  Speaker 1: Like if I just said, hey, I can't do this,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna put me out of my way. I actually
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  Speaker 1: don't have a car. I don't drive, so I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to walk there like. It was a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that, and then the brain it was stop
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  Speaker 1: and be like, all right, let's try it again. Then
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  Speaker 1: I got annoyed though, and so I started fast forwarding
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  Speaker 1: through the plate.
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  Speaker 2: So when you are fast forwarding, is it like when
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  Speaker 2: you see like the old school press it with the
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  Speaker 2: little blurry lines, keep talking talking Wow. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to do this again, and I got
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  Speaker 2: moving on, moving on, get to the good part.
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  Speaker 1: My lesson usband learned. Thanks. But it's really interesting because
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  Speaker 1: I can now I can just recognize that it's a
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  Speaker 1: dream and I can do whatever I want to an extent.
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  Speaker 1: And I was intrigued by this whole premise. I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: tell me what it is.
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  Speaker 2: What did I do wrong here?
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  Speaker 1: Don't make me go through it again. I learned my lesson. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: well that's the thing is actually one of the lessons
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  Speaker 1: was you already know this and you keep making these
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  Speaker 1: mistakes anyway, So got my number.
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  Speaker 2: Got my number because I'm like, are you going to
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  Speaker 2: have you ever had an experience like the it's a
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  Speaker 2: wonderful life type of scenario? Have you lived that out
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  Speaker 2: like a different life and than like what would have
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  Speaker 2: happened if and then like you see it as the spectator,
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  Speaker 2: but it's actually a dream and then you can come
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  Speaker 2: back and to make the choices and.
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  Speaker 1: Uh and not like that, but yes I can. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So sometimes I'll be in a dream and I don't
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  Speaker 1: like what happened in it, so I'll go I'll go
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  Speaker 1: back and I'll be like, we're not gonna do that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a book plot that isn't intriguing.
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  Speaker 1: It's really interesting because it's I don't as far as
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  Speaker 1: I know, I don't wake up. It's just like a
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  Speaker 1: part of my mind is aware, and I'll decide, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't like where this is going. We're gonna go
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  Speaker 1: back this way sometimes back it up. Sometimes it's terrible,
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  Speaker 1: but I like it because I like, like the last
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  Speaker 1: of us so.
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  Speaker 2: You and you have a dream like I have a
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  Speaker 2: lot of dream of like people trying to find me,
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  Speaker 2: trying to get me, and I see them from afar,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm having this plan of like hungering down and
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  Speaker 2: running away and then I can't run you like those scenarios,
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  Speaker 2: That's what I would panic sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: But I we've also discussed this. I'm actually frequently not
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  Speaker 1: in my dreams. So sometimes it's like a movie where
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, I'm watching a horror movie right now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not in it, so I don't have to feel.
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  Speaker 2: Plot because you've never seen this.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and that is another thing that I have that
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  Speaker 1: I don't think too many people have. But I have
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  Speaker 1: a continuing Yeah, I have continuing dreams. So they're like seasonal.
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  Speaker 1: So like you know a TV show goes off season, like.
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  Speaker 2: You named it seasonal, Well, that's what it feels like.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like next time on Annie's dream.
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  Speaker 2: What do you know when the finales are you can
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  Speaker 2: get a you can't get a sense, you can get
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  Speaker 2: a sense. See, I have repeeda dreams where like the
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  Speaker 2: same scenarios happen with different circumstances but with the same people,
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  Speaker 2: or like it's like I think about the family that
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  Speaker 2: I nay need for, Like I constantly dream of that
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  Speaker 2: more than any other work, which is weird to me.
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  Speaker 2: I constantly dream that I'm back being a nanny. I
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  Speaker 2: can't slowly the dream, but at least like that happens.
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  Speaker 2: But it's always different in scenario.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do have I used to have recurring dreams
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  Speaker 1: a lot. I don't have those much anymore, but when
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  Speaker 1: I was really young in stress, I had them a lot. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and that's kind of interesting because that feels like your
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  Speaker 1: brain being really stuck on.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like I am for some reason really traumatized
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  Speaker 2: by that. And it wasn't the worst experience, Like my
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  Speaker 2: worst experience has happened with like defacts so or apartment
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  Speaker 2: chldren and family services. So those should be the nightmares,
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  Speaker 2: I would think, but they're not. I hate we're having
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  Speaker 2: work dreams. Anything is really related to like work stuff
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  Speaker 2: really bother me, even if it's not a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like it either. I really like dreams and
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  Speaker 1: I like dreaming, and so if I have a work dream,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just annoyed because I'm like I could be having
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  Speaker 1: a Star Wars dream, right, now and we're doing this.
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  Speaker 1: It's just bulld.
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  Speaker 2: I need to ask someone if anybody's listening that can
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  Speaker 2: interpret dreams. I constantly have dreams about my contact ones
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  Speaker 2: coming out, and when I try to put it back in,
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  Speaker 2: they're so giant, like the size of my head. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm like, no, no, once I put it in
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  Speaker 2: my eyes is gonna it's gonna be fine. It's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be perfect.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting.
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  Speaker 2: That's my like, not my teeth falling out, not that
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  Speaker 2: that's the dream that I have the most of it
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  Speaker 2: outside of like I can't fly or I can't run.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, huh, giant contacts trying to put those in
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  Speaker 2: my eyes.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna think about this.
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  Speaker 2: I need I need someone to tell me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna think about this.
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  Speaker 2: So in the study, what what does it mean when
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  Speaker 2: you have these lucid dreams?
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  Speaker 1: Well, honestly, the study was mostly like, look at what
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  Speaker 1: the brain is doing. This is new. This is very
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  Speaker 1: different than anything we've ever seen, and it's very new.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't think they had anything other than we
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  Speaker 1: need to do more research because clearly this is different
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  Speaker 1: than what we thought it was. But I I was
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  Speaker 1: interested in the timing of it, because this is a new,
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  Speaker 1: newish thing for me. I used to be able to
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  Speaker 1: lucid dream but it was very rare, and now I
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  Speaker 1: can do it pretty often. And I have a friend
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  Speaker 1: who just started I want to say lucid dreaming, but
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  Speaker 1: she recognizes dream logic so she can be like, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, I don't like this item. Let's change it
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  Speaker 1: to this item and it will change. And so I'm
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  Speaker 1: wondering about the timing of is it that we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about it more, thinking about it more, or is it
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  Speaker 1: something else because when the pandemic first started, we had
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  Speaker 1: a different conversation about because I was having really intense
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  Speaker 1: dreams then, and there were some studies that were coming
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  Speaker 1: out about like the anxiety and stress and all of that.
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  Speaker 1: The pandemic was causing people's dreams to change. And so
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious if there's any relationship between those things, because
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  Speaker 1: this is definitely a new this is a new thing
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  Speaker 1: for me. But yeah, the study was mostly like, this
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  Speaker 1: is weird, we should look into it more. But it's
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  Speaker 1: a brain It's like something in the brain lights up
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  Speaker 1: that they weren't expecting.
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  Speaker 2: Fascinating.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I'm very interested in it. I'm also curious
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  Speaker 1: because we've talked about this briefly before, but I and
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  Speaker 1: I believe you have experienced sleep paralysis. Oh yeah, it's awful.
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  Speaker 1: It's the worst at certain points in our life. And
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if there's a because sleep paralysis usually happens
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  Speaker 1: when you wake up and you're not Your body doesn't
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  Speaker 1: think you're supposed to be awake, like it still thinks
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  Speaker 1: it's asleep, And it's horrible if you've never experienced it.
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  Speaker 1: But I wonder if it's almost related to that phenomenon
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  Speaker 1: of maybe I'm more awake than I think I am,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm doing these making these decisions or lucid dreaming
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. I don't know, I would be very curious.
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  Speaker 1: I have started a dream journal. I mentioned it forever ago,
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  Speaker 1: but I've kept it up and it's I really like it.
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  Speaker 1: And you do remember your dreams better if you keep
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  Speaker 1: a dream journal like this a brain less than one
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  Speaker 1: was months ago, but I remember. Yeah, but it's cool.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, who knows, who knows what I'll dream tonight?
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  Speaker 1: I wish I could, like.
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  Speaker 2: If this is such yourself up until, like this is
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  Speaker 2: a dream tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I can uh it doesn't always work, but I
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  Speaker 1: can do that, and especially if I like wake up
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of the night and I was having
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  Speaker 1: a dream that was like, so, so I can be
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  Speaker 1: you know what I want to do. I want to
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  Speaker 1: go back in, but I want it to do this.
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  Speaker 1: It'll generally it will do what I was thinking. M h. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if it wasn't such a black mirror sounding idea. I
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  Speaker 1: wish I could record my dreams and like look back
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  Speaker 1: at them later.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably a good thing, you can't. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: there could be a level disappointment when you realize.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that wasn't as cool as I thought it was. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for sure, for sure, but still I would be interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting it is, but I do love it and I
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  Speaker 1: look forward to it and sometimes I get excited and then.
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  Speaker 2: I can't slill keep that sounds about right, Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 2: all about it, right, I have nothing bad of that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, please go to sleep. Yeah, anyway, I would
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  Speaker 1: love to hear from listeners. I am intrigued in learning
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