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O'Brien & Doug Ep187 [March 14, 2024 I'm Presently Doug] · O'Brien & Doug

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SPEAKER_10: Hey, it's cousin Larry.
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SPEAKER_10: Listen to the O'Brien and Doug Podcast, brought to you in part by Moser Multimedia.com.
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SPEAKER_10: Music in Buscan.
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SPEAKER_10: And the late runner and Bosfield.
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SPEAKER_10: And me, Doug's cousin and his mom's favorite nephew, Larry.
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SPEAKER_09: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug Podcast.
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SPEAKER_09: That seems I seem loud.
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SPEAKER_07: You do seem loud.
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SPEAKER_07: I'm not sure why that is.
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SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna turn my mic down like that.
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SPEAKER_07: Maybe it's because I have it close to my maybe because it's a ray.
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SPEAKER_09: By the way, I'm O'Brien.
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SPEAKER_09: I'm still Doug.
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SPEAKER_09: Alright.
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SPEAKER_09: And it is episode 187.
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SPEAKER_09: I'm currently Doug.
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SPEAKER_09: And we are presently Doug.
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SPEAKER_13: Hey, there we go.
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SPEAKER_13: I'm presently Doug.
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SPEAKER_13: Presently Doug.
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SPEAKER_13: Yes.
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SPEAKER_13: Because I'm present.
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SPEAKER_13: All present andor accounted for.
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SPEAKER_09: We are currently waiting to see if our brother, Josh Kovach, guitar player extraordinaire.
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SPEAKER_09: Um international.
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SPEAKER_09: He's now international.
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SPEAKER_09: Guitar player extraordinaire.
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SPEAKER_09: Uh will be joining us.
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SPEAKER_09: We uh we asked him last week.
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SPEAKER_09: Um because well, a little backstory.
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SPEAKER_09: So Josh is our guitar player from Comic Crossing.
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SPEAKER_09: Um and wow.
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SPEAKER_09: How long has it been now since he went to Nashville?
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SPEAKER_09: It would have been it was October, right?
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SPEAKER_07: Of before the pandemic.
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SPEAKER_07: So way before the pandemic.
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SPEAKER_09: October 2017, something like that.
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SPEAKER_09: Something like that.
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SPEAKER_09: Um went to Nashville to be a guitar player.
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SPEAKER_09: And that's all he does.
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SPEAKER_09: And he's doing fantastic.
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SPEAKER_09: Um we've been playing with uh Dylan Schneider.
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SPEAKER_09: They went on tour with uh uh an up-and-coming artist named Nate Smith.
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SPEAKER_09: They were opening for Nate Smith.
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SPEAKER_09: And I'm not sure how this happened.
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SPEAKER_09: Uh uh that's why I kind of wanted to talk to Josh, but um Josh just went and played the O2 Arena in London.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: Um I'm not sure.
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SPEAKER_09: I don't think he played the like the big one.
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SPEAKER_09: Or maybe he did.
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SPEAKER_09: Uh you know, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_13: Only Josh knows.
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SPEAKER_09: Because I think there's I think there's levels of the O2 arena.
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SPEAKER_09: And I think I mean I saw pictures and it looked freaking cool.
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SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: Um So I said, you could you be on the podcast and we're gonna talk about this European tour?
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SPEAKER_09: And it was a short one.
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SPEAKER_09: Um and he said, Look, I'm flying in Monday uh catch me on Tuesday.
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SPEAKER_09: So I was like, Alright, that's good, that's cool.
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SPEAKER_09: So he's like, it's a plan.
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SPEAKER_09: And then you came in and said, Are we doing Josh today?
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SPEAKER_09: So I just texted him.
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SPEAKER_13: So the plan is kind of how would you say Unplanned?
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SPEAKER_13: Unplanned.
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SPEAKER_13: It's become spontaneous at this point.
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SPEAKER_13: Right.
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SPEAKER_09: We have we have hopes that Josh will be joining us for the podcast tonight.
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SPEAKER_09: Um and if he doesn't, we got other stuff we can talk about.
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SPEAKER_13: We always have other stuff.
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SPEAKER_09: But like I texted him and Josh is you know I think he said that he was going to be available a couple nights this week, and Tuesday was one of them.
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SPEAKER_09: But you never know.
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SPEAKER_09: I mean he could have got called in to play for somebody.
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SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_13: You know, or you know, he you know wants to spend time with his bride.
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SPEAKER_13: True.
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SPEAKER_13: You know, yeah, true.
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SPEAKER_13: Because he's been gone for a while.
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SPEAKER_09: So um so if we hear from him, we'll uh set that up and hook him right into the right into the system here.
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SPEAKER_13: Plug him into our high-tech O'Brien and Doug playback system.
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SPEAKER_13: Right.
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SPEAKER_13: Or a double.
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SPEAKER_09: Right.
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SPEAKER_09: Uh first things first, uh just found out, was it this morning or last night?
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SPEAKER_09: Eric Carmen.
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SPEAKER_13: Yeah, Eric Carman died.
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SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: Passed away in his sleep.
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SPEAKER_09: Yes.
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SPEAKER_09: They don't know what of, but I'm assuming probably cardiac related if it was in his sleep, right?
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SPEAKER_13: Well, we are children of the 80s, as we've uh established last week, so maybe Freddie Krueger.
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SPEAKER_13: So I don't know.
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SPEAKER_09: Maybe we don't know.
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SPEAKER_09: Maybe he was not um We don't know.
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SPEAKER_09: Maybe he was not armed as the dream warrior that he is.
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SPEAKER_12: Dream Warrior.
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SPEAKER_09: Um but I did want to uh so I had some uh some songs pulled up here.
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SPEAKER_09: Uh in the early 80s, he had a a monstrous hit with All By Myself.
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SPEAKER_09: Actually, let me do that one first.
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SPEAKER_13: Because I have I have Well, I think that that's in if anybody's ever heard Eric Carmen, it's probably from that song.
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SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: And so I know Celine Dion has covered this.
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SPEAKER_09: But this was a monstrous hit for Eric Carmen.
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SPEAKER_02: When I was young, I never needed anyone.
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SPEAKER_00: And making love was just for fun.
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SPEAKER_00: Those days are gone.
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SPEAKER_09: So yeah, he had this hit as well as I think another one early in the 80s.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: And then he went away.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah, he just kinda faded into obscurity.
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SPEAKER_09: Um and came back in the later part of the decade with the song from Dirty Dancing.
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SPEAKER_13: Oh, yeah, that's right.
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SPEAKER_13: Yep.
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SPEAKER_13: Yep.
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SPEAKER_13: Forgot about that.
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SPEAKER_13: I knew there was another one.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah, we're gonna sample a couple of them here uh in a second, but um this is almost like a standard now.
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SPEAKER_13: Oh, yeah, this is a classic, right?
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SPEAKER_13: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah, so that was the that was the big one for Eric Carmen.
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SPEAKER_09: Uh, and here's the one that the the kind of not necessarily a comeback, but from the dirty dancing soundtrack, Hungry Eyes.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: It's just a uh lesson in pop songwriting.
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SPEAKER_11: Oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: I know that he's uh influenced a lot of other artists.
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SPEAKER_09: Eric uh, excuse me, Rick Springfield was a huge fan and contemporary actually of Eric Carmen.
7:01
SPEAKER_13: Did she just pick flowers off a grave?
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SPEAKER_13: I I and then did she stuff them in her boosty?
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SPEAKER_13: Well, it looked like she was.
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SPEAKER_13: It was like, hey, I'm gonna put flowers in my bra.
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SPEAKER_09: What the this video has nothing to do with dirty dancing.
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SPEAKER_13: Well, no, it he was watching it at the beginning.
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SPEAKER_09: Oh, was he?
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SPEAKER_13: Yeah, it was on the screen.
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SPEAKER_13: So she just disappeared, whatever.
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SPEAKER_13: What is go oh, now he what now he's watching himself.
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SPEAKER_13: Now he what that's weird.
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SPEAKER_09: Uh I you know, like you said, as a child of the 80s, this was a huge song.
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SPEAKER_13: Oh, it's cute.
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SPEAKER_13: Oh yeah, I still like this song.
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SPEAKER_09: Oh, you too.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: Um, so let's see.
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SPEAKER_09: Then this one was the his breakthrough with the band of the 70s.
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SPEAKER_09: This is the raspberries and go all the way.
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SPEAKER_13: Yep.
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SPEAKER_13: You fans of uh the Marvel universe will recognize it from the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie.
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SPEAKER_13: Yep.
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SPEAKER_09: But again, this is a lesson in pop songwriting.
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SPEAKER_02: Up a master class, if you will, I would say, such awesome stuff.
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SPEAKER_09: Uh, and then, of course, he had After Hungry Eyes.
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SPEAKER_09: Uh he had a a big hit, which is one of my favorites of his, actually.
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SPEAKER_09: Um this one.
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SPEAKER_09: That's probably why it's my favorite.
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SPEAKER_09: No, I'm just kidding.
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SPEAKER_12: No, it's my favorite now.
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SPEAKER_12: Woman in a bikini.
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SPEAKER_12: That definitely has Woman in a bikini.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_08: See if you remember, I think you probably remember this song.
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SPEAKER_08: This is the music.
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SPEAKER_12: He's got some serious hair.
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SPEAKER_13: He did then, yes.
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SPEAKER_13: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_13: I remember this song.
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SPEAKER_13: Serious about that number one.
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SPEAKER_06: I run a coat through my hair and step up in the street.
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SPEAKER_09: I just I dig this song.
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SPEAKER_13: There it was something about the late 80s, early 90s.
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SPEAKER_13: It was about older cars being in videos.
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SPEAKER_01: You notice that?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Because what is that?
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SPEAKER_01: That is like a that's a that's a vet.
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SPEAKER_13: That's a vet, yeah.
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SPEAKER_13: That's an early vet.
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SPEAKER_13: That looks like a Ford uh Fairlane or a Thunderbird.
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SPEAKER_09: Here comes the big chorus.
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SPEAKER_13: I thought you said elephant you.
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SPEAKER_13: Okay.
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SPEAKER_13: Oh wait, that's a little weird.
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SPEAKER_13: You just pull up to a car and just go.
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SPEAKER_07: That's a little stalker.
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SPEAKER_09: I want to hear the a cappella part.
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SPEAKER_09: Do you remember what I'm talking about?
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SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_13: Towards the end, right?
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SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: Oh, here we go.
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SPEAKER_13: Right there.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_13: Now who who who was the picture getting sure what that was all about?
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SPEAKER_09: That was Scott Shannon, who was a rough a radio DJ.
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SPEAKER_13: Yeah, they're about to say they're throwing darts at him.
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SPEAKER_13: I was like, who is that guy?
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SPEAKER_13: I'm not really sure what the backstory is behind that.
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SPEAKER_13: Um And I know that dude's not playing, I know that stand-up bass is not on this album.
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SPEAKER_13: You can't fool me.
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SPEAKER_09: It's for video purposes, I'm sure.
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SPEAKER_09: Uh, but yeah, Eric Carmen, uh 74.
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SPEAKER_09: He was 74.
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SPEAKER_09: That's really young.
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SPEAKER_09: It is pretty young, actually.
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SPEAKER_09: In in it's funny that you say that because, you know, 20 years ago we would have said, oh yeah, 74.
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SPEAKER_09: You know, that's getting up there.
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SPEAKER_13: Wrap it up, grandpa.
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SPEAKER_13: And now that we're now that we're above 50, we're like, that's really young.
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SPEAKER_13: That's really young.
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SPEAKER_13: That's really, that's really uh wow.
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SPEAKER_13: He was just a whippersnapper.
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SPEAKER_13: It's so true.
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SPEAKER_09: It's so true.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_13: So it's all about perspective, baby.
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SPEAKER_09: Uh rest in peace, Eric Carmen.
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SPEAKER_09: Um hopefully they don't forget to honor him uh in the tribute at the Grammys.
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SPEAKER_09: They've they've forgotten a few people in the past.
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SPEAKER_09: Not that it matters, I guess, but Well, nobody's watching.
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SPEAKER_09: Nobody's watching the crits.
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SPEAKER_09: I guess the Oscars was this weekend, and I didn't even I wasn't paying attention.
12:16
SPEAKER_13: Apparently uh Jimmy Kimball Kimble Kimmel um kind of riled uh Robert Downey Jr.
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SPEAKER_09: I I saw that and or I read that and I read what he said.
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SPEAKER_13: Yeah, it was, but I think you know it's it's still it's like bringing up the past.
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SPEAKER_13: And it's like he's not that guy anymore.
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SPEAKER_13: You know, so it's I don't I don't know.
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SPEAKER_13: But I never thought Jimmy Kimmel was that funny.
12:38
SPEAKER_09: No, I didn't either.
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SPEAKER_13: Even on the man show, it was all Adam Kroll's.
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SPEAKER_13: It was.
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SPEAKER_13: You know, he was the funny one.
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SPEAKER_13: Yep.
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SPEAKER_09: So I agree.
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SPEAKER_09: I agree.
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SPEAKER_09: Um, so I want to talk about this, even though do we want to do our Michael McDonald moment this early?
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SPEAKER_13: It's our show.
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SPEAKER_13: We can do it whenever we want.
12:54
SPEAKER_13: We can make it we can make the whole show of Michael McDonald's.
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SPEAKER_09: You're darn right we can.
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SPEAKER_09: Well, this is not our Michael McDonald moment because I I'm gonna reserve that for after this, but I thought we we saw this last week and I thought this was amazing news.
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SPEAKER_09: Uh course, this comes on the heels of Michael McDonald's interview with Rick Biotto.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: And you finally watched I watched it um before you did, but then you finally watched it as well.
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SPEAKER_09: And what'd you think?
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SPEAKER_13: I loved it.
13:23
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_13: It was it was Well, I like Rick Beatto's interview style because it's like he doesn't interrupt.
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SPEAKER_13: Right.
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SPEAKER_13: You know, he asks the question.
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SPEAKER_13: And and there were times when I forgot uh what the question was because Michael was just going on on a story, and I was just like, I was just enthralled in the story, and I forgot what the question was.
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SPEAKER_09: Well, that's and and I'm glad you made that point because so many interviewers um they'll ask a question and then the the person will answer, start to answer the question, and then they'll kind of oh it's really okay.
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SPEAKER_09: So tell me about that.
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SPEAKER_09: Oh, tell me about that, you know.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: And Rick Bianto is like he answers a or asks a question, and Michael McDonald knows, you know, I mean, it's his life, it's his story, he knows the answer.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: So he just takes his time and he tells the story.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: And Rick Bianto just patiently waits.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah, he just sits there and just lets him answer.
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SPEAKER_13: Or he'll he'll once in a while be like, yeah.
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SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_13: You know, you know, just you know.
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SPEAKER_09: Right.
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SPEAKER_09: And then and then when he he I mean, he's obviously really good at this, so he knows when when he's finished answering the question.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
14:28
SPEAKER_09: And he's got a great question line.
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SPEAKER_13: Yeah, he's got another great question.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_13: And of course he's he's an outstanding musician of his own in his own right.
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SPEAKER_05: Right.
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SPEAKER_13: So he asks, you know, I like when he was asking really like in-depth questions about what what you know, they were talk what song were they talking about?
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SPEAKER_13: It was an early uh it wasn't minute by minute.
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SPEAKER_13: It was another song.
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SPEAKER_05: Real love.
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SPEAKER_13: Maybe uh they were talking about, okay, uh that went from a D uh D seven to a and I was just like, I'm lost already.
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SPEAKER_09: Refreshing to me though that Michael McDonald doesn't know how to read music.
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SPEAKER_13: Yeah, I found that interesting.
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SPEAKER_09: You know, and it's and it's kind of cool because he kind of answered it the way I always answer it.
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SPEAKER_09: I mean, yeah, if you put a piece of music in front of me, I could read it.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah, you can figure it out.
15:12
SPEAKER_09: It would take me a while.
15:12
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
15:13
SPEAKER_13: Uh take me a long time to to kind of read French, but I can figure it out.
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SPEAKER_13: Exactly.
15:17
SPEAKER_09: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_09: So I I felt that that was refreshing to me, you know, as as a musician who uh who doesn't really read music.
15:24
SPEAKER_09: Uh however, my limitations are on sad display uh in my high school chorus when I don't have a piano player like uh yesterday.
15:35
SPEAKER_09: And they said, Mr.
15:36
SPEAKER_09: Mojer, can you play my part here?
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SPEAKER_09: Oh sure.
15:42
SPEAKER_09: Are you in this class?
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SPEAKER_09: Your soprano, right?
15:43
SPEAKER_09: So let's see, hold on.
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SPEAKER_09: I think it's an A there.
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SPEAKER_09: Anytime here, Mr.
15:49
SPEAKER_09: Mojer.
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SPEAKER_09: Anytime.
15:51
SPEAKER_13: Yeah, uh you should be like, hey, you get down here and do this.
15:53
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, punk.
15:54
SPEAKER_09: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_09: So before we get too far into the uh Ricky Auto thing, the Doobie brothers are reuniting with Michael McDonald for a new album.
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SPEAKER_09: Why?
16:07
SPEAKER_09: Why not?
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SPEAKER_09: Exactly.
16:09
SPEAKER_09: Because a lot of people would say, why are you doing that because albums don't sell?
16:13
SPEAKER_09: You know, it's all it's all in touring.
16:15
SPEAKER_09: But you know, as a musician and as a writer and and uh uh student and uh steward of the creative process, why not?
16:26
SPEAKER_09: Yeah just for I mean just just to create, especially to get in that old frame of mind with these guys that he spent some time with, you know, in the in the 70s.
16:37
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
16:37
SPEAKER_09: Uh because I'm sure there was camaraderie there.
16:40
SPEAKER_13: Um yeah, I'm sure there was.
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SPEAKER_09: Um and you know, he just wants to get back into that, you know, get back into that vibe and write with them and make some new music.
16:50
SPEAKER_09: And I mean, who knows, maybe it will sell.
16:53
SPEAKER_09: I'm sure it will sell.
16:54
SPEAKER_13: It's not gonna sell, you know, like it's not gonna be gangbusters, and it's not gonna be one on billboarder.
16:59
SPEAKER_09: But Doobie Brothers and Michael McDonald fans will buy it up.
17:01
SPEAKER_09: I can't.
17:02
SPEAKER_09: You know?
17:02
SPEAKER_13: I can't.
17:03
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: Um, so so let me see if there's any details in here.
17:07
SPEAKER_09: Uh they're in the final stages of completing a new album.
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SPEAKER_09: Um, their first original studio release together with Michael McDonald since 1980.
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SPEAKER_09: Yep, that sounds about right.
17:18
SPEAKER_09: One step closer.
17:18
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
17:19
SPEAKER_09: Um, they're very close to finishing up the album worth of new songs.
17:22
SPEAKER_09: Lucky once again to have John Shanks, who's in Bon Jovi, uh, and Michael McDonald joining in with us on this song that's really proud of.
17:30
SPEAKER_09: And John Litfee is really a standout on the tracks.
17:33
SPEAKER_09: It's the first time in 40 years that Michael has recorded a whole album with the band, and in my humble opinion, it's turning out to be some of the best music we've ever made together.
17:43
SPEAKER_09: So, uh you know, they had their 50th anniversary uh back, it was originally scheduled for 2020.
17:49
SPEAKER_09: Um, but then they they they did it in like 20 uh 21 or 22.
17:57
SPEAKER_09: Something like that.
17:58
SPEAKER_09: Um let's see.
18:00
SPEAKER_09: Simmons didn't provide an exact timetable for the new album's arrival, but the band was shooting for a spring summer release.
18:06
SPEAKER_13: Oh, that works.
18:07
SPEAKER_09: So that'll be cool.
18:07
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
18:08
SPEAKER_09: Um and they will hit the road for a nationwide tour beginning in June.
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SPEAKER_09: Uh they're going into rehearsals sometime in May, and hopefully they'll be able to debut a few of the new songs on the tour.
18:19
SPEAKER_09: So that's that's great news.
18:21
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
18:22
SPEAKER_09: Um Michael McDonald back with the Doobie Brothers at least for a little while.
18:26
SPEAKER_09: Why not?
18:27
SPEAKER_13: One more, one more loud, you know, one more hurrah.
18:30
SPEAKER_13: You know, you know, once more into the breach kind of thing.
18:33
SPEAKER_09: So, our official actually, should I get the music?
18:36
SPEAKER_09: Because I want to make this the official Michael McDonald um moment.
18:40
SPEAKER_09: Because there is a here we go.
18:42
SPEAKER_09: We have to This is our official Michael McDonald moment for this episode.
18:46
SPEAKER_09: This is this is our so in the Rick Biotto interview, he was talking about his early days.
18:53
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
18:53
SPEAKER_09: And how he was uh with a band called the Del Reyes.
19:01
SPEAKER_09: Uh and they were signed to a subsidiary of Stax Records.
19:05
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
19:06
SPEAKER_09: Um just made basically.
19:08
SPEAKER_13: That's the one that Steve Cropper did.
19:10
SPEAKER_13: Right.
19:10
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
19:10
SPEAKER_09: So basically it was the minor leagues of Stax Records.
19:13
SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah.
19:13
SPEAKER_13: But Steve Cropper, like you said, produced the produced it, right.
19:17
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
19:17
SPEAKER_09: And he said the name of the song that they, you know, that they put out as the Delrays.
19:23
SPEAKER_09: And I was like, I wonder if that is the same song.
19:28
SPEAKER_09: With the s you know, the because it was the same title as as this other song that I know.
19:34
SPEAKER_09: Come to find out, uh, and I don't know if you probably didn't research this as deeply as I did, but it is the same song.
19:45
SPEAKER_09: And it's Michael McDonald singing.
19:49
SPEAKER_09: This is the Del Reyes from 1968.
19:59
SPEAKER_09: I had no idea this was a cover.
20:02
SPEAKER_01: The wait is over.
20:04
SPEAKER_09: Oh, hold on a second.
20:06
SPEAKER_09: Don't interrupt my video with a is that Gronk?
20:12
SPEAKER_09: I know it doesn't sound like Michael McDonald, but it is.
20:19
SPEAKER_13: You can kind of hear it.
20:31
SPEAKER_09: So this was was it naked eyes in the eighties?
20:34
SPEAKER_13: Uh probably yeah, it was probably eighties, yeah.
20:50
SPEAKER_01: I mean you can hear it a little bit.
20:52
SPEAKER_13: A little bit, but not if you know, he's not fully Michael McDonald yet, right?
20:56
SPEAKER_13: He has not arrived yet.
21:06
SPEAKER_09: This comes from uh something called Stack68, a Memphis story.
21:17
SPEAKER_09: And it was I never knew that this song was written by the great songwriting team of Hal David and Bert Baccarak.
21:25
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I never knew that.
21:43
SPEAKER_09: Now we're so used to the 80s one.
21:45
SPEAKER_13: Well, I mean I don't think he became the Michael McDonald we know and love until the 70s.
21:51
SPEAKER_09: Well, no, I mean like we're so used to the 80s.
21:54
SPEAKER_13: Um yeah, the the the the remake of it, yeah.
22:03
SPEAKER_09: So let me just let me just get that going because I think everybody's kind of hearing that.
22:12
SPEAKER_09: Naked Eyes was the band in the 80s that that uh now I like this.
22:29
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I always liked it.
22:30
SPEAKER_09: I think I like the Del Rey's version better.
22:32
SPEAKER_09: Just because it's more smells more soulful.
22:34
SPEAKER_13: Yeah, there's it's not programmed instruments, you know.
22:39
SPEAKER_13: Because I'm pretty sure there's not some dude up there playing Christmas belt.
22:42
SPEAKER_09: But don't get me wrong, I like this because I'm not as good as a child of the box.
22:52
SPEAKER_09: My favorite part.
23:02
SPEAKER_09: And they did they did make it their own.
23:03
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
23:05
SPEAKER_09: So I just thought that was interesting, and I thought it was worthy of our um Michael McDonald moment art mmm for this week.
23:13
SPEAKER_09: Uh I'm gonna check my messages, see if uh Mr.
23:16
SPEAKER_09: Mr.
23:17
SPEAKER_09: Joko has in Mr.
23:18
SPEAKER_09: Joko has not gotten back to us.
23:20
SPEAKER_09: Um we did Eric Carmen, we did our Michael McDonald moment.
23:27
SPEAKER_09: I have new music.
23:28
SPEAKER_13: Can we can we still talk about the interview though?
23:30
SPEAKER_09: No, absolutely not.
23:31
SPEAKER_13: Okay.
23:31
SPEAKER_13: I'm just kidding.
23:32
SPEAKER_13: We can do whatever you want.
23:33
SPEAKER_13: I don't want to talk about it.
23:36
SPEAKER_13: No, what I thought was interesting, uh, he was talking about Rick asked him about the state of music, and he was like, he was he was he was saying that um because we've talked about this ad nauseum about how the you know it's all about touring, making, you know, it's not about making records anymore, it's about you know, touring to make money.
23:58
SPEAKER_13: And he's he said that started back in the eighties when they started taking away royalties the record companies.
24:04
SPEAKER_13: So I thought that was interesting.
24:06
SPEAKER_13: So it's it's this is being an ongoing thing.
24:09
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
24:10
SPEAKER_13: So I just thought his perspective on it was really interesting.
24:14
SPEAKER_09: And w wasn't it just I mean, his demeanor and his whole like I don't know.
24:20
SPEAKER_09: I've always we've always thought he's was a cool guy.
24:23
SPEAKER_13: But can you imagine just sitting down and having a chat with him?
24:27
SPEAKER_13: You know, you wouldn't know he's one of the most famous musicians on the planet.
24:30
SPEAKER_09: Right.
24:30
SPEAKER_13: He's just a dude.
24:31
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
24:32
SPEAKER_09: And you know, I think we we lose that every once in a while.
24:34
SPEAKER_09: We think we put these people up on a pedestal, and they're just normal people.
24:38
SPEAKER_13: Yeah, he's just a regular guy.
24:39
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
24:40
SPEAKER_13: Well, he was telling that story about he heard a song in a record store and he asked the girl about it, and she was just like, Who's this guy?
24:47
SPEAKER_09: You know, you know.
24:49
SPEAKER_09: And the fact that when his song comes on, like a if a song of his comes on on the radio, he does turn it up and listen to it.
24:56
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah, yeah.
24:56
SPEAKER_13: He's like he's like, I'm you know, I'm trying to pretend I'm not listening to it, but I'm listening intently to it.
25:00
SPEAKER_09: And I'm not gonna say, and and when um uh he knew he'd miss it.
25:06
SPEAKER_09: That's good.
25:07
SPEAKER_13: And he didn't play one of his.
25:08
SPEAKER_13: He played, he played a Ray Charles song.
25:10
SPEAKER_13: Right.
25:10
SPEAKER_13: And I was like, and then you're like, you're you're watching it and you're listening to it, because it's just him in a piano.
25:16
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
25:16
SPEAKER_13: And he's singing a line, and you're like, it's one thing to hear him on, you know, on an album or whatever, and you know, you know you know the Michael McDonald voice.
25:26
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
25:26
SPEAKER_13: But to see that sound come out of that dude's face, right?
25:29
SPEAKER_13: You're like, it's even more powerful.
25:32
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
25:32
SPEAKER_13: You know what I mean?
25:33
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
25:34
SPEAKER_13: You're you're like watching, you know, the sound come out and you're like, yeah.
25:38
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
25:38
SPEAKER_13: I mean, that's you know.
25:41
SPEAKER_13: So I thought that was cool.
25:42
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, no, the whole thing was cool.
25:44
SPEAKER_09: Well, I highly I well, I highly recommend all of Rick Beato's interviews.
25:47
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
25:48
SPEAKER_13: Um, but that one with my checking out Rick Beaton, you know, he does a lot of cool stuff.
25:52
SPEAKER_09: Oh, he does.
25:53
SPEAKER_09: So actually, so much so that it's it's kind of sickening.
25:57
SPEAKER_09: Uh like he'll my favorite thing that he does, which is amazing but annoying.
26:04
SPEAKER_09: Is okay.
26:06
SPEAKER_09: So uh quick uh quick lesson.
26:09
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah, there's lessons.
26:10
SPEAKER_09: So if we do this and we do uh uh uh major ninth over this and that and blah blah blah blah, and he'll go blike that.
26:18
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, no, I'm always like just he does it in the like that.
26:22
SPEAKER_13: Yeah, let me let me go get my guitar and uh fumble around with that.
26:28
SPEAKER_13: Oh yeah, yeah, I can yeah, just like that.
26:30
SPEAKER_13: Okay, thanks, Rick.
26:31
SPEAKER_09: And it almost looks like he's doing it on the fly.
26:34
SPEAKER_09: There has to be some preparation that goes into that stuff.
26:38
SPEAKER_09: Like he'll have a keyboard next to him and he's like, he's what makes this song famous, or what makes this song so great?
26:44
SPEAKER_09: You know, blah, blah.
26:45
SPEAKER_09: Well, you've got a flat nine here, and then he plays it, he picks it out, and you're right.
26:51
SPEAKER_09: You make me sick.
26:53
SPEAKER_13: Friggin' A, dude.
26:54
SPEAKER_13: Friggin A.
26:56
SPEAKER_09: Yes, and by that we mean we love you, Rick Beato.
26:59
SPEAKER_09: Yes.
26:59
SPEAKER_09: Keep doing what you're doing.
27:00
SPEAKER_09: Absolutely.
27:01
SPEAKER_09: Um, I do have a new song.
27:03
SPEAKER_09: Uh I don't know that you care about it.
27:05
SPEAKER_09: How do you know?
27:06
SPEAKER_09: Um, but it was, you know, it was available.
27:08
SPEAKER_09: That's presumptuous of you.
27:10
SPEAKER_09: It was available, and I figured I'd I'd I'd debut it.
27:12
SPEAKER_09: I actually like this song.
27:15
SPEAKER_09: Uh, or like the the original.
27:17
SPEAKER_09: This is a cover.
27:18
SPEAKER_09: Um and I think it's from uh let's see Yes.
27:24
SPEAKER_09: So we talked about how the fact that uh Cheryl Crow has a new album coming up.
27:28
SPEAKER_09: Alright.
27:29
SPEAKER_09: Um well she did a cover on this album.
27:32
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I haven't heard it yet.
27:34
SPEAKER_09: Uh I like the original version.
27:36
SPEAKER_09: It is a Peter album.
27:40
SPEAKER_09: I think it is really I was just gonna say it's on the album Us.
27:49
SPEAKER_09: Because he had an album called So, which had the Legend Ron, and then the next one that he had album was called Us.
27:54
SPEAKER_09: And I was gonna say Us, but I second guess myself.
28:02
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
28:06
SPEAKER_09: So that and that album came out in 92.
28:09
SPEAKER_09: So actually, let me uh while I have it right here, let's do this.
28:14
SPEAKER_09: Because um I think I have it in my in my uh let's play the original first before we hear the cover.
28:22
SPEAKER_09: That's kind of neat.
28:23
SPEAKER_09: Uh so yeah, this I like.
28:31
SPEAKER_09: Recognize this at all.
28:44
SPEAKER_09: This is digging in the dirt.
28:46
SPEAKER_09: Have you ever heard it?
28:47
SPEAKER_09: No?
28:48
SPEAKER_09: I don't believe so.
28:49
SPEAKER_09: This was a hit song for him.
28:52
SPEAKER_09: Something in there.
28:56
SPEAKER_09: Maybe you'll recognize it when the chorus comes.
28:58
unknown: All the time it's getting strong.
29:03
SPEAKER_09: Hard to believe this came out the year I graduated high school.
29:07
SPEAKER_09: Blows me away.
29:08
SPEAKER_13: It's probably why I don't recognize it.
29:10
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, because you were gone.
29:11
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah.
29:42
SPEAKER_08: This is the chorus.
29:43
SPEAKER_02: I want to get to where he says, so I mean it's it's cool.
30:17
SPEAKER_09: I mean, I I like a lot of Peter Gabriel.
30:19
SPEAKER_09: A lot of Peter Gabriel is just strange.
30:22
SPEAKER_13: No, yeah, that dude's uh he's on a different level.
30:25
SPEAKER_09: But I do I do like that song.
30:27
SPEAKER_09: So I'm curious because I haven't heard this.
30:29
SPEAKER_09: Her new album, Cheryl Crow's new album, is called Evolution.
30:33
SPEAKER_09: And it comes out March 29th, which is in a couple weeks.
30:37
SPEAKER_09: Uh so she actually, I think, is joined by Peter Gabriel on this song.
30:42
SPEAKER_09: So this is Cheryl Crow's interpretation with Peter Gabriel.
31:04
SPEAKER_14: Something in me, dark and sticky, all the time it's getting strong.
31:15
SPEAKER_14: No way of dealing, but it's feeling like it's pretty pretty close to it.
32:16
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, there he is.
32:21
SPEAKER_13: I don't know, it's good, it's good.
32:23
SPEAKER_13: I like it.
32:24
SPEAKER_13: Yeah, yeah.
32:25
SPEAKER_13: I think I prefer the original.
32:27
SPEAKER_08: I think so too.
32:28
SPEAKER_13: But uh this is really good.
32:29
SPEAKER_13: It's it stays true to the to the to the original song.
32:33
SPEAKER_09: It's it's it's interesting to me.
32:35
SPEAKER_09: One of the things that I I don't know, because her last album was supposedly her last.
32:42
SPEAKER_09: She she said that this is probably the last time I'll put out an album.
32:46
SPEAKER_13: Wait, where have I heard that before?
32:48
SPEAKER_09: Right.
32:48
SPEAKER_09: And then and then this one comes up and she's like, well, you know, I got inspired.
32:52
SPEAKER_09: And, you know, when you're and it wrote a bunch of songs or whatever, but then the next song she puts out is a cover.
33:03
SPEAKER_09: Which is fine, you know.
33:05
SPEAKER_13: Inspired by a cover.
33:06
SPEAKER_13: And she does a good job with it.
33:07
SPEAKER_09: I like this this version.
33:12
unknown: Yeah.
33:13
SPEAKER_09: So anyway.
33:14
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, that's not bad.
33:15
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, no, I dig it.
33:16
SPEAKER_09: I dig it in the dirt.
33:21
SPEAKER_07: Thank you very much.
33:23
SPEAKER_07: Uh, still nothing from Joko.
33:26
SPEAKER_09: Um, I'm sure he is too.
33:28
SPEAKER_09: So we'll we'll try and figure out uh a time.
33:31
SPEAKER_09: We will have Joko on probably next week or the week after or something like that.
33:35
SPEAKER_09: We'll figure it out.
33:36
SPEAKER_09: I'm sure all of those memories uh of London are still fresh in his mind.
33:40
SPEAKER_09: I would think so.
33:41
SPEAKER_09: And uh he'll be able to recount some of that stuff.
33:43
SPEAKER_13: Unless he gets hit in the head between now and then.
33:46
SPEAKER_13: I don't remember anything.
33:47
SPEAKER_09: Which is entirely possible, I guess.
33:48
SPEAKER_13: Yeah, I mean, you know, things have happened.
33:50
SPEAKER_09: We are going to uh take a break.
33:54
SPEAKER_09: And we're gonna come back.
33:55
SPEAKER_09: Oh, I heard a good dad joke.
33:56
SPEAKER_13: Good dad joke, and that those terms just don't go together.
34:01
SPEAKER_09: Well, see, now I like dad jokes.
34:02
SPEAKER_09: No, you don't like dad jokes.
34:04
SPEAKER_13: I I like some of them, but they gotta be really, really um top-notch.
34:08
SPEAKER_09: Do you know what uh actually makes me smile?
34:11
SPEAKER_09: Your mouth.
34:13
SPEAKER_09: Oh, you did that's one of the dad jokes.
34:16
SPEAKER_09: Is that one on safe?
34:18
SPEAKER_09: It's actually my facial muscles.
34:19
SPEAKER_09: Oh, okay.
34:21
SPEAKER_09: So I was going to try and get you with that one, but you got that one.
34:24
SPEAKER_09: Ah, what's that?
34:25
SPEAKER_09: Um the other one is um so Billy Joel uh did one of his uh Madison Square Garden uh concerts, and his clothes were soaking wet.
34:36
SPEAKER_09: Do you know why?
34:38
SPEAKER_07: He didn't start the dryer.
34:41
SPEAKER_07: No boy.
34:44
SPEAKER_07: No, you don't deserve it.
34:46
SPEAKER_09: That was a bad one.
34:47
SPEAKER_09: That was terrible.
34:48
SPEAKER_09: Um I still liked it.
34:50
SPEAKER_09: I still liked it though.
34:50
SPEAKER_09: I thought you did.
34:52
SPEAKER_13: I know you did, Sparky.
34:53
SPEAKER_09: Okay, uh, we're gonna take a break and we'll come back, we'll climb the wall, and we'll uh do our brrrrrr uh bonus beetles bit.
35:00
SPEAKER_09: Bonus beetles bit.
35:02
SPEAKER_09: That's coming up next.
35:03
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36:16
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36:18
SPEAKER_09: Frontwards.
36:22
SPEAKER_13: I just wanted to change it up.
36:23
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, I know you did.
36:24
SPEAKER_12: Everybody.
36:25
SPEAKER_13: We're frontwards.
36:25
SPEAKER_13: We're frontwards.
36:29
SPEAKER_13: Um first time I've ever heard this podcast, and it's gonna be the last.
36:33
SPEAKER_09: Should say, I know I've been trying to talk less about personal stuff, but last weekend, uh Finn's uh eighth grade uh travel basketball team played four games.
36:44
SPEAKER_09: They won them all.
36:46
SPEAKER_09: Got into the championship on Sunday night, and uh went into overtime and lost to uh school called Haldale uh by four or five points.
36:59
SPEAKER_09: So they played hard um and played well.
37:02
SPEAKER_09: So it was a good weekend.
37:03
SPEAKER_09: Now both boys, uh eighth grade and high school, have tournament this coming weekend.
37:10
SPEAKER_09: So I know where you'll be.
37:11
SPEAKER_09: Yes, I will be down in Bahaba.
37:13
SPEAKER_09: Bahaba.
37:14
SPEAKER_09: Bahaba.
37:15
SPEAKER_09: But we're staying in a condo, so I'm excited about that.
37:17
SPEAKER_09: Oh, that's great.
37:18
SPEAKER_09: And Bob's gonna be there.
37:19
SPEAKER_09: Not at all.
37:20
SPEAKER_09: Oh, there you go.
37:20
SPEAKER_09: So so Quinn's team plays Friday night against Caribou.
37:24
SPEAKER_09: And if they win, which I don't think they will, but I don't know.
37:28
SPEAKER_09: Uh Quinn's team, which is Bob's son, he plays us.
37:32
SPEAKER_09: Oh, well there you go.
37:33
SPEAKER_09: So that'll be kind of cool.
37:34
SPEAKER_09: Nice.
37:34
SPEAKER_13: So at least we'll get to see Bob, hopefully.
37:35
SPEAKER_13: Yeah, that'd be good.
37:36
SPEAKER_09: Uh alright, so it's time to for our uh bonus Beatles bit, uh, and you're gonna do that while I climb the wall of two.
37:43
SPEAKER_13: That's right.
37:44
SPEAKER_13: So this week uh we're out of the uh Hard Days Right by Steve Turner.
37:50
SPEAKER_13: This is from the Beatles for Sale album, Babies in Black.
37:54
SPEAKER_13: Which I I like this song.
37:55
SPEAKER_13: It's a waltz.
38:00
SPEAKER_13: It's a it's a waltz.
38:01
SPEAKER_13: It's a it's in three, four times.
38:03
SPEAKER_13: So, you know, it's it's good.
38:04
SPEAKER_13: Babies in Black.
38:05
SPEAKER_13: What album is that on, do you know?
38:06
SPEAKER_13: I just told you this.
38:07
SPEAKER_13: Well, you weren't listening, were you?
38:08
SPEAKER_13: Well, I had my headphones on.
38:09
SPEAKER_13: Uh Beatles for Sale.
38:11
SPEAKER_13: Okay.
38:12
SPEAKER_13: Uh a simple song with a simple story.
38:14
SPEAKER_13: Boy loves girl, girl loves other boy, other boy doesn't love girl.
38:19
SPEAKER_13: Yeah, that's pretty that's every story I've ever read.
38:22
SPEAKER_13: Girl feels blue and dresses in black.
38:24
SPEAKER_13: And by 1964, Lennon McCartney seldom sat down together and write a song from start to finish as they had done.
38:33
SPEAKER_13: This is it.
38:38
SPEAKER_12: Okay, now tell me how to do that.
38:40
SPEAKER_13: This usually meant that an unfinished song was given a middle eight by the other partner, or awkward lines were improved.
38:47
SPEAKER_13: The nose-to-nose writing, which had happened in Liverpool and then during the early days in London, was coming to an end.
38:53
SPEAKER_13: It would be daft to sit around waiting for a partner to finish your song off with you, explained Paul at the time.
38:59
SPEAKER_13: If you happen to be on your own, you might as well get it finished yourself.
39:03
SPEAKER_13: If I get stuck on the middle eight of a new number, I give up, knowing that when I see John, he will finish it off for me.
39:09
SPEAKER_13: He will bring a new approach to it, and that particular song will finish up half and half Lennon and Mark Artin.
39:16
SPEAKER_12: Nice.
39:16
SPEAKER_13: Babies in Black was a genuine joint effort.
39:19
SPEAKER_13: The first since I want to hold your hand almost a year before.
39:22
SPEAKER_13: John and Paul went John and Paul writing the song together in the same room in Kenwood.
39:28
SPEAKER_13: Which I believe was John's mansion.
39:31
SPEAKER_09: I guess.
39:32
SPEAKER_13: I think.
39:32
SPEAKER_09: I can't remember.
39:33
SPEAKER_13: Uh according to Paul, it was an attempt to write something a little bit darker, bluesy.
39:38
SPEAKER_13: It was the first recorded for Beatles for Sale.
39:42
SPEAKER_13: So there you go.
39:43
SPEAKER_09: Very cool.
39:44
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
39:44
SPEAKER_09: Let's hear George Harrison.
39:48
SPEAKER_09: Oh, maybe.
39:50
SPEAKER_12: Oh, he's there somewhere.
40:06
SPEAKER_09: I still get chills listening to them.
40:08
SPEAKER_13: It's it's some of the best stuff ever recorded ever.
40:12
SPEAKER_13: Anywhere.
40:13
SPEAKER_09: Yep, I agree.
40:15
SPEAKER_06: She's dressed in black.
40:21
unknown: Yeah.
40:22
SPEAKER_13: Well, I think this was the period where their songwriting was was getting really, really, really good.
40:27
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
40:27
SPEAKER_13: You know.
40:28
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
40:29
SPEAKER_13: Not that the early stuff was bad, but you know, it was just starting to really, you know.
40:34
SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
40:35
SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
40:36
SPEAKER_09: They were trying, they were starting to experiment.
40:38
SPEAKER_09: Absolutely.
40:38
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah.
40:39
SPEAKER_09: Um, okay.
40:40
SPEAKER_09: So I have an album.
40:42
SPEAKER_09: Uh I've climbed the wall of tune, so uh, I guess I guess the words are Let the Guessing begin.
40:47
SPEAKER_09: Alright.
40:48
SPEAKER_09: Alright.
40:48
SPEAKER_09: Alright.
40:49
SPEAKER_09: Hopefully we haven't done this.
40:52
SPEAKER_09: Is it a band?
40:53
SPEAKER_09: It is a band.
40:55
SPEAKER_11: Rock band?
40:56
SPEAKER_09: Pop rock band?
40:57
SPEAKER_09: Pop rock band.
40:59
SPEAKER_09: Metallica.
41:00
SPEAKER_09: No.
41:01
SPEAKER_07: Pop rock.
41:04
SPEAKER_09: Somewhere John James Heffield just are certain songs from Metallica that are pop songs.
41:11
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
41:12
SPEAKER_09: Nothing else matters is a pop song.
41:13
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it is a pop.
41:13
SPEAKER_09: The Unforgiven is a pop song.
41:15
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
41:15
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
41:15
SPEAKER_13: Yeah, they're they're they're they they uh experimented big time.
41:19
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
41:20
SPEAKER_13: Um let's see here.
41:21
SPEAKER_13: Okay.
41:23
SPEAKER_13: Pop rock band.
41:24
SPEAKER_13: Height of popularity.
41:25
SPEAKER_13: 80s.
41:26
SPEAKER_13: 80s.
41:27
SPEAKER_13: Okay.
41:33
SPEAKER_09: No, that's incorrect.
41:35
SPEAKER_13: It's not them?
41:36
SPEAKER_13: No.
41:36
SPEAKER_13: Oh, okay.
41:37
SPEAKER_13: Um they have iconic songs?
41:40
SPEAKER_13: Yes.
41:41
SPEAKER_13: Are they still are they still around?
41:42
SPEAKER_09: Uh technically, I I think they are still around in a certain incarnation.
41:49
SPEAKER_09: There's only maybe one one or two original members.
41:55
SPEAKER_09: Uh, I will tell you this.
41:57
SPEAKER_09: Um in their first incarnation, uh, they had uh uh one lead singer, and then that lead singer left.
42:04
SPEAKER_09: I can't remember why.
42:05
SPEAKER_09: But they got another lead singer, and they also had hits with that singer.
42:11
SPEAKER_13: Did they ever play together?
42:14
SPEAKER_13: Lead singers?
42:15
SPEAKER_13: No.
42:16
SPEAKER_13: Oh, so it's not like 38 special.
42:17
SPEAKER_13: No.
42:18
SPEAKER_13: Okay.
42:18
SPEAKER_13: No.
42:19
SPEAKER_13: Ums in the band?
42:26
SPEAKER_09: No virtuosos.
42:27
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
42:28
SPEAKER_09: No.
42:28
SPEAKER_09: Um interestingly enough, one um one of the members, you mentioned 38 Special, one of the members uh co-wrote a lot of 38 Special songs and some Sammy Hagar songs as well.
42:44
SPEAKER_09: Excuse me.
42:46
SPEAKER_09: And we play a song that one of the members wrote.
42:55
SPEAKER_09: In a different band.
42:57
SPEAKER_13: Okay.
42:58
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
42:58
SPEAKER_09: Uh let's see.
42:59
SPEAKER_09: They're closely tied to a movie franchise.
43:06
SPEAKER_13: Closely tied to a movie franchise?
43:08
SPEAKER_13: Yep.
43:09
SPEAKER_13: Is it Survivor?
43:14
SPEAKER_13: Is it?
43:18
SPEAKER_13: You're getting good.
43:20
SPEAKER_09: I mean my goodness.
43:22
SPEAKER_09: Okay, so first of all, let me in the syndicate.
43:26
SPEAKER_09: Ah, vehicle.
43:27
SPEAKER_09: I just turned my computer off.
43:29
SPEAKER_09: How'd you do that?
43:30
SPEAKER_09: I I pushed the wrong button.
43:32
SPEAKER_09: There we go.
43:32
SPEAKER_09: Oh, there it goes.
43:34
SPEAKER_09: So this is uh vehicle, right?
43:37
SPEAKER_09: The Ides of March is the band.
43:40
SPEAKER_09: The singer and the guitar player and the songwriter is a guy by the name of Jim Peterick.
43:49
SPEAKER_09: Just a creepy song.
43:51
SPEAKER_09: What are you talking about?
43:53
SPEAKER_09: He wrote, uh he also co wrote.
43:56
SPEAKER_13: He's a he's he's a bag of candy short of being a pedo.
43:59
SPEAKER_13: So I don't even know if we've done it.
45:42
SPEAKER_09: I'm not sure if we've done we've done Vinal Signs or not.
45:45
SPEAKER_09: When I was a kid, Vinyl Signs was um a go-to album for me.
45:52
SPEAKER_09: It was recorded in or released, I should say.
45:57
SPEAKER_09: Actually, this is uh 1990, but that's not true.
46:01
SPEAKER_13: Um the original We did Survivor a long time ago.
46:05
SPEAKER_09: I wonder if we did we must then we must have done this because I don't have any other survivor.
46:11
SPEAKER_09: Dang it.
46:12
SPEAKER_09: Um most people when they think of Survivor, you know what they think of is this one.
46:25
SPEAKER_09: So this is with the original singer, Dave Bickner.
46:38
SPEAKER_09: Now, uh here's another piece of trivia for you.
46:51
SPEAKER_09: I'm trying to find it before I give you that piece of trivia.
46:58
SPEAKER_13: You know, everybody focuses on the on the big the big chords, you know, bh.
47:04
SPEAKER_14: Yeah.
47:04
SPEAKER_13: Who's the guy dug dug right through the whole song?
47:07
SPEAKER_13: I mean, he's just like, man, well, I think it's there's only one guitar player in the song.
47:11
SPEAKER_09: Oh, there we go.
47:12
SPEAKER_09: He's overdubbed, obviously.
47:13
SPEAKER_09: Frankie Sullivan is it.
47:14
SPEAKER_09: And you know, I it's funny because I I um introduced these guys.
47:19
SPEAKER_09: They played up here in Woodstock, New Brunswick.
47:22
SPEAKER_09: And back when I was in radio, uh, because it was Survivor, it was Foreigner, well, Creden's Clearwater revisited, and Survivor pulled up in a van, and you when you opened the van.
47:34
SPEAKER_09: I think I have told this story.
47:35
SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah, yeah.
47:36
SPEAKER_09: Just billows of smoke, you know.
47:39
SPEAKER_09: Smoke billowed out, I should say.
47:41
SPEAKER_13: It was like a scene out of dazed and confused.
47:44
SPEAKER_09: Right.
47:44
SPEAKER_09: So, what you may not know about Dave Bickler.
47:49
SPEAKER_09: Did I say Bickner?
47:50
SPEAKER_09: I meant Bickler.
47:51
SPEAKER_13: I don't remember what you just mean.
47:54
SPEAKER_09: So, this was the original lead vocalist sang Eye of the Tiger.
48:00
SPEAKER_09: And he's also famous for something else.
48:04
SPEAKER_09: And see if you remember this.
48:06
SPEAKER_00: Uh Bud Light presents Real Men of Genius.
48:13
SPEAKER_00: Real men of genius! Yes! Today we salute you, the Buccaneers of Tampa Bay.
48:20
SPEAKER_00: Buccaneers of Tampa Bay! You and your saltic captain battened down the hatches and scuttled opponents, navigating the stormy seas of the NFC and pirate metaphors with ease.
48:33
SPEAKER_00: Gronk once again caused opponents to ask, how will we defend ourselves if this planet stands more like it?
48:42
SPEAKER_00: You're the only team to win a Super Bowl at home.
48:45
SPEAKER_00: Any stadium can boast state-of-the-art amenities.
48:48
SPEAKER_00: Only yours can boast a pirate ship with a talking animatronic pair.
48:53
SPEAKER_00: So crackle with a nice goal, but night on conquerors of KT.
48:56
SPEAKER_00: Because you're not only legends, you're Super Bowl 55 chance.
49:01
SPEAKER_02: Congrats to the Bucks! You're the chest! Didn't know that was him.
49:07
SPEAKER_09: Dave Bickler did all those butt lines.
49:10
SPEAKER_09: Those are always great.
49:11
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, real men of genius.
49:12
SPEAKER_09: Um I digress because we gotta get back to uh the album that I actually chose, which was uh Survivor's Vital Signs from 1984.
49:22
SPEAKER_13: And they had let's So why does yours say 1990?
49:25
SPEAKER_09: I think it's a re-release.
49:26
SPEAKER_09: I'm pretty sure it's a re-release.
49:28
SPEAKER_09: But it was 1984, and just Jim Peterick had a knack for writing catchy pop songs with a big hook that had that satisfied a rock listener too, because they had a lot of guitars.
49:46
SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah, yeah.
49:48
SPEAKER_09: This is Jimmy Jameson, uh, who replaced Dave Bickler.
49:52
SPEAKER_02: Turn the pages up.
49:53
SPEAKER_09: And we caught we lost Jimmy Jameson uh probably about ten or fifteen years ago.
49:58
SPEAKER_09: Uh big heart attack.
49:59
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
50:08
SPEAKER_09: I can feel you tremble when we touch, and I feel the hand of it reaching out to the this falls into the melodic rock realm for me.
50:21
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, you do it.
51:05
SPEAKER_09: So that was a hit song from that album called I Can't Hold Back.
51:10
SPEAKER_09: It had, I think, three hits off this album.
51:14
SPEAKER_09: This is another.
51:16
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah, yeah.
51:16
SPEAKER_09: I'm high on you.
51:24
SPEAKER_13: Ironically, it was the theme song of the Dare program.
51:27
SPEAKER_02: So teacher.
51:41
SPEAKER_02: So good!
51:42
SPEAKER_09: And so I meant to tell you, and I think I probably told you this story before, but when they did when when Survivor played up here in Woodstock, New Brunswick, guess who they had singing for them?
51:52
SPEAKER_09: It wasn't Jimmy Jameson, obviously.
51:54
SPEAKER_09: Because he had passed away by that point.
51:56
SPEAKER_09: And it wasn't Dave Vickler.
51:59
SPEAKER_09: It was Robin McCaulay.
52:00
SPEAKER_13: Oh yeah, that's right, yeah.
52:01
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
52:02
SPEAKER_09: And I told you we were we were singing along to the Lou Graham.
52:05
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
52:06
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
52:07
SPEAKER_09: Oh, that was that was such a fun experience.
52:18
SPEAKER_12: What's an art bell?
52:22
SPEAKER_12: Here you go.
52:30
SPEAKER_09: And then the other hit on this was the um stereotypical power ballad.
52:39
SPEAKER_11: Oh yeah.
52:40
SPEAKER_09: Search is over.
52:41
SPEAKER_09: Search is over.
52:44
SPEAKER_02: How can I convince you?
52:48
SPEAKER_09: Jimmy Jameson had such a great voice.
52:51
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
52:52
SPEAKER_02: Who am I to blame you for doubting what you feel?
52:59
SPEAKER_02: I was always sweet.
53:03
SPEAKER_02: You were just a girl.
53:06
SPEAKER_02: I knew I took a bread.
53:10
SPEAKER_02: The friend I have in you.
53:15
SPEAKER_02: I was living for a tree.
53:20
SPEAKER_02: Living for a moment.
53:22
SPEAKER_09: So anyway, the search is over.
53:25
SPEAKER_09: Um but you're missing some of the deep cuts from this album.
53:30
SPEAKER_02: We'll remember this first night forever.
53:34
SPEAKER_09: This one's called First Night.
53:35
SPEAKER_02: Oh, all the songs fade away.
53:40
SPEAKER_02: And the stage finish to gray.
53:46
SPEAKER_02: We'll remember the We'll recall the things that we stay.
53:52
SPEAKER_02: All the foolish dreams that I had.
54:25
SPEAKER_09: Sorry.
54:26
SPEAKER_09: I was getting into it there for a second.
54:28
SPEAKER_09: Broken Promises.
54:36
SPEAKER_09: I just, I don't know.
54:38
SPEAKER_09: I dig 'em.
54:39
SPEAKER_09: Survivor has always been uh a favorite of mine.
54:42
SPEAKER_09: They had what was that song that they had from the album that came after this?
54:47
SPEAKER_09: I think it was the set the album was When Seconds Count.
54:50
SPEAKER_09: And it was uh it was of course Jimmy Jameson did a ver did a song for Rocky IV, uh, Survivor with Jimmy Jameson.
54:58
SPEAKER_09: Right.
54:59
SPEAKER_09: It was um Burning Heart.
55:01
SPEAKER_09: Yes.
55:01
SPEAKER_07: In the Burning Heart just about to burst.
55:05
SPEAKER_07: Oh, look at that right there.
55:14
SPEAKER_09: And both of those songs, interestingly enough, Burning Heart, you could tell Burning Heart, but Eye of the Tiger was also written for Rocky.
55:22
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
55:23
SPEAKER_09: It wasn't like on their album, it was it.
55:26
SPEAKER_09: They wrote it Saul I Stallone asked them to write a song.
55:34
SPEAKER_11: And they were like, what?
55:36
SPEAKER_09: And this one, of course, Rocky 4, he's up against you know Drago from Russia.
55:41
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
55:42
SPEAKER_09: And if you listen to the words of this, this is obviously written for the movie.
55:45
SPEAKER_13: Oh yeah, it is.
55:46
SPEAKER_13: So obvious.
55:47
SPEAKER_02: There is so much at stake.
55:49
SPEAKER_02: Seems our freedoms up against the rope.
55:52
SPEAKER_13: Our freedoms up against the rope.
55:54
SPEAKER_13: From a boxing match.
55:55
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
55:58
SPEAKER_09: Still, I still my favorite Rocky movie.
56:01
SPEAKER_09: Four?
56:02
SPEAKER_09: I think so.
56:02
SPEAKER_09: Really?
56:03
SPEAKER_09: I like three with Clubber Lang.
56:05
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
56:06
SPEAKER_09: But I think four was my favorite.
56:07
SPEAKER_13: Now, first one will always be my favorite one.
56:09
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, see, the first one to me, it dragged a little bit.
56:12
SPEAKER_13: Yeah, it was it was very slow, but it's still my favorite one.
56:15
SPEAKER_09: Um Yeah, no, I think I like four.
56:18
SPEAKER_13: Two, you just, hey, he's rich.
56:20
SPEAKER_13: Oh, here comes a guy, beats the crap out of him, Mickey dies.
56:24
SPEAKER_13: Now he's on his own.
56:26
SPEAKER_13: Then he comes back, wins.
56:27
SPEAKER_13: Rocky Ford's like, hey, hey, hey, you don't talk about America.
56:32
SPEAKER_13: And then you killed Apollo.
56:33
SPEAKER_13: I'm gonna come over there and kick your butt.
56:36
SPEAKER_13: And then five, he's like, hey, all my money's gone.
56:40
SPEAKER_13: And then I'm gonna get in a fight in a bar.
56:42
SPEAKER_13: But I got a restaurant.
56:43
SPEAKER_13: No, that was the that was uh Rocky Balboa.
56:46
SPEAKER_13: Was that six?
56:47
SPEAKER_13: Yeah, that was the the next one.
56:50
SPEAKER_13: And then and then there was then then we got into the Creed franchise for a couple, and then you know, he got cancer and he knows it was you know Wait, no, he got cancer in Rocky Balboa, didn't he?
57:01
SPEAKER_09: No.
57:01
SPEAKER_13: No, it was the second Creed movie or first Creed movie.
57:05
SPEAKER_13: Can't remember.
57:07
SPEAKER_09: I did see the first Creed movie, but I I get him confused because there's also Well, they're all the same, the same movie, yeah.
57:12
SPEAKER_13: Well, the second one is you know, Creed Son fights Drago's son.
57:16
SPEAKER_13: So it's like, well, here we go again.
57:18
SPEAKER_13: Here we go again.
57:20
SPEAKER_13: Right.
57:21
SPEAKER_13: It's like and I always feel bad for Dolph Lungard because he always plays Russians, but he's from Sweden, bro.
57:29
unknown: You know what I mean?
57:31
SPEAKER_13: That poor guy.
57:32
SPEAKER_13: I think everybody thinks he's Russian, but he's Swedish.
57:36
SPEAKER_13: I mean, they're some of the nicest people on the planet, but he's like, you know, everybody hates him because he's like Drago, you know?
57:44
SPEAKER_13: Although he's a very convincing Russian.
57:46
SPEAKER_13: You know, he's a great actor.
57:47
SPEAKER_13: He's a great actor.
57:48
SPEAKER_13: I mean, you do it, eh?
57:49
SPEAKER_13: Hey, we need a guy to play a Russian.
57:52
SPEAKER_13: Right over here.
57:56
SPEAKER_09: Oh man.
57:57
SPEAKER_09: Um yeah.
58:00
SPEAKER_09: So anyway, Survivor.
58:02
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah, I forgot.
58:03
SPEAKER_09: The album is Vinyl Signs.
58:05
SPEAKER_09: Uh, I highly recommend if you like that kind of thing.
58:08
SPEAKER_09: Um, right.
58:10
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
58:11
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
58:11
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
58:12
SPEAKER_09: One Seconds of Hills.
58:13
SPEAKER_09: It's the only one that I really know of.
58:14
SPEAKER_09: Too hot to Sleep was another one.
58:16
SPEAKER_09: Uh I have a Survivor album, at least one Survivor album on uh vinyl.
58:26
SPEAKER_09: It's one with Dave Vickler on vocals.
58:28
SPEAKER_13: Um, but that's close to Dave Vickler.
58:35
SPEAKER_13: Oh Nebraska you got Nebraska?
58:37
SPEAKER_09: I'm getting closer.
58:41
SPEAKER_09: I think I have them in a quarter.
58:52
SPEAKER_13: There it is.
58:53
SPEAKER_13: Survivor.
58:54
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
58:54
SPEAKER_07: Which one is it?
58:55
SPEAKER_07: I have no idea.
58:56
SPEAKER_07: Uh I think you have two albums.
58:58
SPEAKER_07: Caught in the game.
58:59
SPEAKER_07: Oh, okay.
58:59
SPEAKER_07: Do you have two albums there?
59:00
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I do.
59:01
SPEAKER_07: One of them is uh sticky.
59:02
SPEAKER_07: Oh damn it didn't seem to go.
59:05
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
59:05
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
59:06
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
59:06
SPEAKER_09: So uh Caught in the Game with David Deckler.
59:08
SPEAKER_09: Actually, that's a great album, too.
59:09
SPEAKER_09: There's a song called Santa Anna Winds uh on that album.
59:13
SPEAKER_09: Really, really good.
59:14
SPEAKER_09: Nice good stuff.
59:16
SPEAKER_09: I recommend uh Survivor.
59:18
SPEAKER_09: Uh they're not uh because Jim Peterick is well, Jim Peterick I think is like 80 or something like that.
59:24
SPEAKER_09: I was gonna say they're all up there now.
59:25
SPEAKER_09: He's still doing stuff uh with other bands and writing for other people.
59:29
SPEAKER_09: Um Heavy Metal.
59:31
SPEAKER_09: Uh Sammy Hager, the song Heavy Metal was written with Jim Peter.
59:36
SPEAKER_09: Oh, okay.
59:37
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, and there's a couple there's a couple other ones too, I think.
59:40
SPEAKER_09: But he was that whole that whole um melodic rock um catchy, you know, chorus songs, that was Jim Peter.
59:49
SPEAKER_09: He was really good at it.
59:49
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
59:50
SPEAKER_09: So that's it.
59:52
SPEAKER_09: That's episode 187.
59:54
SPEAKER_09: 187.
59:55
SPEAKER_09: 187.
59:57
SPEAKER_09: Um I guess we'll try and get Josh, try and get Joko on the podcast next week.
1:00:03
SPEAKER_09: We'll kind of figure all that out, but you're right, he's probably busy.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_13: I was a he's either busy or he's, you know, jet lagged.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:00:12
unknown: Yeah.
1:00:12
SPEAKER_13: I would think he'd be jet lagged.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_13: You think so?
1:00:15
SPEAKER_13: Ah, I would think so, man.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_13: You know, whirlwind trip to England, and you know, then you're back and it's like.
1:00:24
SPEAKER_07: You know, so yeah.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_13: Anytime you fly international, you're gonna get jet lagged, man.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_07: So I suppose that's true.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_09: Alright, but we'll hook up with Josh uh another time, and uh we'll do episode.
1:00:35
SPEAKER_09: Another time, another station 188 next week.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_09: Yes.
1:00:40
SPEAKER_13: 188.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_13: So until then, I'm O'Brien.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_13: I'm still Douglas.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_13: Bye, everybody.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_13: Goodbye.
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SPEAKER_07: What's that from?
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SPEAKER_07: 80s?
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SPEAKER_02: That's probably in the 70s.