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Stan Van Gundy Joins The Huddle · The Huddle

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  Speaker 1: Milwaukee worldwide on the iHeartRadio app as well Drew Wilson,
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  Speaker 1: Billy schmid armand Sary, and we are happy to welcome
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  Speaker 1: the program special guest Stan Van Gundy joining us. The
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  Speaker 1: documentary A Road at Night about Howard Moore and the
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  Speaker 1: tragic accident we've been talking about. It starts its run
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  Speaker 1: at Marcus Theater and Madison on Thursday. It's going to
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  Speaker 1: run for a week and Stan is featured in the stand.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. This is such a heavy topic
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  Speaker 1: because on one hand we want to celebrate and keep thinking
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  Speaker 1: about Howard Moore, and on the other hand, thinking about
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  Speaker 1: it makes you realize how unfair the world is and
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  Speaker 1: how tragic the circumstance is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean, there's no better person in this
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  Speaker 2: world that I've run into than Howard Moore, and to
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  Speaker 2: see what happened to him and his family on a
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  Speaker 2: drive down just to see his wife's family is tragic.
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  Speaker 2: But I think the documentary that John Roach did, A
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  Speaker 2: Rote at Night is powerful, and it also celebrates the
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  Speaker 2: spirit of Howard more in his family and how they've
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  Speaker 2: moved past this and are trying to get on. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's an amazing family and Howard's an amazing person who's
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  Speaker 2: still in there fighting.
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  Speaker 1: You coached Howard, and I'm wondering, I think I remember
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  Speaker 1: his career to have the impact that he had. I
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  Speaker 1: think he scored about one hundred points in his collegiate
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  Speaker 1: basketball career. But he struck me as kind of the
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  Speaker 1: Tanasas energy guy. What was it like to coach him?
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  Speaker 1: And when you were coaching him, did you think to yourself,
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  Speaker 1: this guy's going to be a coach at some point?
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  Speaker 2: You know what, That's just a great analogy with Tanasas.
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  Speaker 2: I hadn't used that one. That's fantastic. But look, I've said,
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  Speaker 2: you're right. He scored I think ninety nine points in
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  Speaker 2: his college career, and I would argue that no one
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  Speaker 2: has had the impact on the University of Wisconsin basketball
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  Speaker 2: program over the last thirty years that Howard Morris had.
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  Speaker 2: You know, from his time as a player and a coach,
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  Speaker 2: he's been influential in recruiting so many of the great
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  Speaker 2: players going back to his time as a student. As
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  Speaker 2: it's pointed out in the documentary, he was a big
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  Speaker 2: part of recruiting Michael Finley here and then as a
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  Speaker 2: coach he recruits a guy like Frank Kaminski here. So
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  Speaker 2: Howard's had tremendous impact, and I didn't know if he
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  Speaker 2: would go into coaching, but I knew he would go
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  Speaker 2: into something where he was leading people because he was
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  Speaker 2: just a great leader and a people magnet. He's a
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  Speaker 2: guy who cared about every one of his teammates. He's
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  Speaker 2: the best I've been around the game my entire life.
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  Speaker 2: Literally my dad coach, and he is the best teammate
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  Speaker 2: I have ever been around because his thoughts every day
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  Speaker 2: were on what can I do to help each and
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  Speaker 2: every one of his teammates, And it would be different
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  Speaker 2: with different guys than he would do it. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: not surprised at all that he went into coaching.
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  Speaker 3: Stan that you hit it right on the head here,
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  Speaker 3: as you've been around teams your whole life, and team
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  Speaker 3: is just something that's so impactful, so important, and for
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  Speaker 3: somebody that loves team sports as much as I do,
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  Speaker 3: like watching the brotherhood and the camaraderie and friendship around
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  Speaker 3: Howard with all of his teammates is inspiring. But it's
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  Speaker 3: also one that, out of the worst circumstances, somebody that
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  Speaker 3: loves teams like I do it's inspiring to see how
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  Speaker 3: great of a friendship they are able to have and
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  Speaker 3: be brought together this late in life.
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  Speaker 4: That's rare.
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  Speaker 3: You talked about it just because of Howard and who
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  Speaker 3: he was, but that team that takes a special group
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  Speaker 3: of individuals to be brought together and want to give
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  Speaker 3: back to their brother as much as they have.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's a great point, and it's absolutely true.
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  Speaker 2: It really is a phenomenal group of people. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: one of the things that is talked about ad nauseum
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  Speaker 2: actually in sports now is cure culture. Culture. Everybody talks
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  Speaker 2: about culture. Well, Howard Moore is, in my opinion, responsible
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  Speaker 2: for the culture of Wisconsin basketball. He promoted from his
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  Speaker 2: time as a player, that community and that close feeling.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, one of the hardest things for all
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  Speaker 2: of us who knew Howard around this tragedy is if
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  Speaker 2: this tragedy had happened to someone else in the group,
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  Speaker 2: Howard is the guy we would have all leaned on.
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  Speaker 2: Howard is the guy that would have been there for
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  Speaker 2: everyone else. And so I think it is fitting that
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  Speaker 2: everybody and literally everyone who is Howard's teammate or played
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  Speaker 2: at Wisconsin when Howard coach there, everyone has really come
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  Speaker 2: together to try to help he and his family as
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  Speaker 2: much as they possibly could.
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  Speaker 1: Talking to Stan Van Gunde here on the huddle, Drew
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  Speaker 1: Billy and Arman, you mentioned the culture in Howard's role
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  Speaker 1: in it, and it does strike me thirty years ago.
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  Speaker 1: It's thirty years since you coached at Wisconsin and they're
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  Speaker 1: on their fourth coach and Greg Guard's been there since,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, took over for bow in twenty fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: So that culture that you guys helped establish, that was
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  Speaker 1: kind of the ground floor of what has become one
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  Speaker 1: of the more successful basketball programs, not only a Big
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  Speaker 1: Ten but nationally. Go back to us when you were
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  Speaker 1: when you first got to the Fieldhouse, that wasn't the
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  Speaker 1: job then.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't as shiny as it is now.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it certainly wasn't. I mean, you know, I Stu Jackson,
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  Speaker 2: I think probably has never gotten as much credit as
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  Speaker 2: he deserves in the way that turned around. But listen,
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  Speaker 2: I mean getting that team to the NCAA tournament after
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  Speaker 2: forty seven years, a forty seven year drought and the
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  Speaker 2: recruitment of you know, Steve Yoder, recruited Michael Finley, Tracy Webster,
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  Speaker 2: those guys, and then Stu recruited Rashard Griffith, and that
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  Speaker 2: momentum carried is what got the Coal Center built and
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  Speaker 2: things carried over from there. Obviously, Dick Bennett did a
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  Speaker 2: fabulous job, and then Bo Ryan incredible. Greg Gard. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: now it's one of the most respected programs in the country.
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  Speaker 2: Howard was there at the beginning of that. He helped
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  Speaker 2: build the foundation of that. He helped put the culture
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  Speaker 2: in place, and then came back as the coach, helped
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  Speaker 2: recruit guys, helped further the culture. I really don't think
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  Speaker 2: anyone as great as those coaches have been Stu Jackson,
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  Speaker 2: Dick in It, Bo Ryan in Greg Gard, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think anyone has had more impact on the culture of
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  Speaker 2: Wisconsin basketball than Howard Moore has.
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  Speaker 1: It's fantastic in the movie I wrote at night, this
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  Speaker 1: is starting Thursday. They got the premiere event. It's gonna
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  Speaker 1: run for a week, hopefully longer. I hope a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people can go see, especially our Madison audience. Since
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned culture, and I brought up the Nasis before
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  Speaker 1: I got about a quarter in the jukebox and ask
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  Speaker 1: you about the way the Yannis thing is playing out
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  Speaker 1: for us in the state of Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously we can stand down now.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have to worry about it being traded again
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  Speaker 1: until it fires up in May when we start having
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  Speaker 1: to hear about it.
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  Speaker 4: What's your take? What's your take on Yannis?
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  Speaker 1: Is it a situation where the Bucks have to move on,
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  Speaker 1: we have to part ways amicably, or is it a
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  Speaker 1: situation where maybe John Horst can pull a rabbit out
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  Speaker 1: of his hat. Given some picks and some money to
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  Speaker 1: play with, he can fashion a team that Yiannis wants
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  Speaker 1: to be part of.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I hope for the sake of
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  Speaker 2: the box that they can figure out a way to
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  Speaker 2: put a team around ya. Honest, that has a chance
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  Speaker 2: to contend because I think Giannest has said it, and
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  Speaker 2: I believe him. He wants to be there. He loves Milwaukee,
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  Speaker 2: but he also wants to win and he doesn't want
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  Speaker 2: to be part of a rebuilding roster. And hopefully they
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  Speaker 2: can pull that off. It's not going to be easy
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  Speaker 2: because they don't have a lot of assets right now
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  Speaker 2: to trade and move in, you know, move around him.
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  Speaker 2: But the bottom line is they were a pretty competitive
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  Speaker 2: They've been a pretty competitive team this year when he's
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  Speaker 2: played because of his talent, and they do have some
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  Speaker 2: other guys. If they could find a way to put
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  Speaker 2: one or two other guys around him, I would hope
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  Speaker 2: that he could say, And I think that's the decision
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  Speaker 2: that John Horst and the Bucks will have, like, can
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  Speaker 2: we put a team around him that can contend? And
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  Speaker 2: if not, then we're going to have to start over.
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  Speaker 2: But you move a guy with like Giannis without getting
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  Speaker 2: a real haul in return. Look, their biggest problem over
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  Speaker 2: the last few years is been Giannis's health. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if he could stay healthy, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: health in general. Damian Lillard was not healthy. They just
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  Speaker 2: haven't had a chance really to contend since that championship season.
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  Speaker 3: Stan, you hit it on the head. If you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: do it, you gotta get a haul. And what we
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  Speaker 3: were going for was like the bargain bin in the
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  Speaker 3: front of target. We're going to Costco and we're getting
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  Speaker 3: three cards. We're grabbing anything and everything we can if
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  Speaker 3: you have.
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  Speaker 4: To move them.
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  Speaker 3: And in this day and age, like for an asset
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  Speaker 3: like him, that seems like the pinnacle of players that
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  Speaker 3: could be available. He would be the frontline center player.
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  Speaker 3: But it seems like there are some moves and some
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  Speaker 3: pieces around the fringes that the Bucks could be able
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  Speaker 3: to make. What do you think like a Ryan Rollins
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  Speaker 3: he might win like Most Improved Player of the Year.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think he could be a piece of something
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  Speaker 3: that they have going forward with him?
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  Speaker 2: I think Ryan Rollins can be a piece. I think
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  Speaker 2: a J. Green can be a piece. Certainly Bobby Portis
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  Speaker 2: off the bench is a piece. Yeah, They've got some pieces.
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  Speaker 2: What they don't have right now is that second and
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  Speaker 2: third star, the guys who can really come in and
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  Speaker 2: you know, take over when Giannis is on the bench,
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  Speaker 2: take over when Yannis misses games here and there. That's
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  Speaker 2: what they're missing right now. They're gonna have to find
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  Speaker 2: a way to do that if they're gonna hang on
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  Speaker 2: to Giannis and contend. Now. Look, it's not easy right now.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's tough in the league, and it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be a tough decision for John Horston. What decision, you know,
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  Speaker 2: what direction to go with that roster. But Yannis, I
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  Speaker 2: guess I'm you know, Look, I'm I'm an old dude,
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  Speaker 2: and I love for the days where people stayed with
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  Speaker 2: one team for a long long time. And Yannis is
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  Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Buck. Heck, he's even a part owner of
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  Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Brewers. Like, these are guys that we need
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  Speaker 2: to keep around in their cities. So I hope they
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  Speaker 2: can figure out a way to do that.
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  Speaker 5: How hard is to fight off the instinct and the
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  Speaker 5: armies of the different big markets and the and the
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  Speaker 5: NBA media machine that seemingly wants these guys to move
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  Speaker 5: and matriculate.
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  Speaker 4: To bigger markets. When you are John Horse, when you
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  Speaker 4: are honest.
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  Speaker 5: When you do truly want to keep the that in
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  Speaker 5: the place that you were drafted in the hometown and
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  Speaker 5: all that, how hard is it to in that role
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  Speaker 5: to kind of fight everything off because it seems like
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  Speaker 5: it's inevitable or a lot of people see it as
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  Speaker 5: inevitable that they move on to a bigger market.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, yeah, you're right about that, and it's unfortunate.
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  Speaker 2: I think I went through it when I was coaching
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  Speaker 2: in Orlando with Dwight Hour. You know, and there is
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  Speaker 2: a poll and the media wants people. But really what
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  Speaker 2: the media wants, I think is they want Giannis playing
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  Speaker 2: deep into the playoffs. They want the stars deep into
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs. I don't think this talk was going on
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  Speaker 2: when the Bucks were winning a championship, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you want your stars playing in May and June. That's
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  Speaker 2: what you want in the league. That's what makes the
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  Speaker 2: league great. They don't want their stars sitting it out,
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  Speaker 2: as it looks like the Bucks will be doing this year.
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  Speaker 2: And so hopefully they can put a contender around him,
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  Speaker 2: something that makes him feel like he's got a chance,
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  Speaker 2: makes the fans in Milwaukee feel like they've got a chance,
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  Speaker 2: because look, they showed everybody in that championship run. The
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  Speaker 2: fans in Milwaukee are as good as any team in
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  Speaker 2: the league. And we know that in college basketball. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the Badger fans will match up with any group of
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  Speaker 2: fans in the league, whether it's football, basketball, anything. So
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  Speaker 2: there's great fans there. They've just got to have a
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  Speaker 2: product that they can really support.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, Stan, on the way out, we know you
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  Speaker 1: coached in Madison, you lived there for a while, You
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  Speaker 1: visited Milwaukee many times in your various capacities in the NBA.
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  Speaker 1: Did you gain a new appreciation from Milwaukee when Brian
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  Speaker 1: Anderson took you around?
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  Speaker 4: Because BA is pretty wired in this city. I know
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  Speaker 4: he's taking you to places. I know you've been to
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  Speaker 4: ex golf, He's taking you around town.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have a new appreciate appreciation because of our Palba.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I've got both an appreciation for
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  Speaker 2: Milwaukee and an extreme appreciation for BA. I mean, he
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  Speaker 2: is one of the great great people in the sports
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  Speaker 2: business that you'll run into. I mean, you know, he
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  Speaker 2: really is. He taught me a lot. Don't blame my
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  Speaker 2: performance on him, but he but he taught me a lot.
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  Speaker 2: He's taken time to mentor me, and he's just a
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  Speaker 2: great friend. Look, I'm going back and doing a college
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  Speaker 2: game for TNT March the second, just so I can
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  Speaker 2: work with work with Ba again since TNT lost the NBA,
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  Speaker 2: and that was really my only motivation for doing it.
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  Speaker 2: He's fantastic. Love listening to him on baseball. That's the
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  Speaker 2: thing I loved about working for him, working with him too,
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  Speaker 2: is because I'm a big baseball fan and between him
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  Speaker 2: and Boom Shambi and uh Chicago, that's where I get
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  Speaker 2: all my uh my baseball talking and those guys bring
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  Speaker 2: me up to date. But yeah, I'm a I'm as
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  Speaker 2: big a Brian Anderson fan, as anybody in the state
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  Speaker 2: of Wisconsin, I'll tell you that.
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  Speaker 4: We're right there with you. He's a treasured resource.
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  Speaker 5: Man.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us. We appreciate it. We'll get you
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  Speaker 4: out baseball season. We'll have a couple of sausages and
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  Speaker 4: we'll go out.
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  Speaker 2: No, damn, absolutely, I love it and I love the
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  Speaker 2: park out there.
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic, Stan, thanks for joining us, Thanks for talking about Howard.
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  Speaker 1: We're looking forward to a good run for the doc
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  Speaker 1: is coming up at this end of this week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you very much. I hope everybody will turn out.
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  Speaker 2: It's a great way see a powerful story and support
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  Speaker 2: Howard and his family because the proceeds are going to
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  Speaker 2: him and his family, so sort of, you know, do
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  Speaker 2: two things at once.
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  Speaker 4: Fantastic. Thanks Stan much.
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  Speaker 2: All right, thank you guys.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks man, Gandhi join us right here on the huddle.
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  Speaker 1: Time to close up shop. We'll drop the mic after that.
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  Speaker 1: The pleasure catching up with Stan Van Gundy.
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  Speaker 4: This is the huddle. Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin.