Latest / CattleUSA Daily / 304: The Cattle Market Is Resilient, Beef Alternatives...Not So Much with John Campbell
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- 0:00In today's podcast episode with John Campbell, we are breaking
- 0:03down at the live cattle market, everything that we have been
- 0:06seeing across the Midwest, across the Southern Plains, the
- 0:09region and just the cattle market in general this past
- 0:11week. John gives some insight and some
- 0:14thoughts on to what we're seeing right now, especially some
- 0:16emphasis on the fat cattle market as we have seen some
- 0:19pretty significant changes over the past week there as well.
- 0:23And then after that amazing discussion, we have a pretty
- 0:26honest and open discussion about beef demand and possible burgers
- 0:31or fake meat or whatever the hell you want to call it.
- 0:35John and I are talking about all of those things and some recent
- 0:38reports that have come out on all of these other alternative
- 0:42meat products and what it means for the cattle industry.
- 0:45What we've been seeing on positive and negative trends for
- 0:47the cattle industry in correlation with all of those
- 0:50things as well. Before we hop into today's
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- 1:34Welcome to the Cattle USA Daily podcast, your go to source for
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- 1:48Now let's dive into today's episode.
- 1:55John, welcome back to the podcast once again.
- 1:58How has life been in beautiful Lahana, Colorado?
- 2:02Well, typical Lahana, hot and dry, but we're optimistic.
- 2:07We're optimistic. I think they did, you know, it's
- 2:10hitting around. So maybe El Nino or whatever
- 2:14fact that the only thing I get out of that is it's just
- 2:17supposed to be hotter now. Well, you know, you're never
- 2:20going to be too far off, but would you say that in the
- 2:23greater Lotta Metroplex? That sounds about right.
- 2:28This morning I woke up and it was spit and rain outside, but
- 2:31it was one of those things where it's just like barely sprinkling
- 2:34or misting every like 45 minutes of a few droplets come from the
- 2:38sky type of situation. And I just, I was walking to
- 2:40work this morning, walking to the office and I just kind of
- 2:42looked up and I was like, all this cloudy, dreary weather for
- 2:45this. Like, come on, guys, we can, we
- 2:48can pull a little bit more out of out of the sky.
- 2:51I think like let's, let's, let's get some moisture on the ground
- 2:54over here. But I know you all need it out
- 2:56there too. Yeah, we do.
- 2:58But you know, we're we always need it.
- 3:00Hell, lot is always waiting on a rain.
- 3:03It's kind of the story of your life, and I mean it.
- 3:06Doesn't take much though, so that's one thing.
- 3:09Yes, for sure. Well, how did markets go this
- 3:12past week? John, you know, actually pretty
- 3:14good. You know the thing that and I
- 3:16know it sounded like a broken record, but how resilient this
- 3:19deal is. I thought we kind of backed off
- 3:22a little bit last week, but boy come charge it right back and
- 3:25really on pretty short receipts. But I thought our light cattle
- 3:29were higher as they were about everywhere.
- 3:31Our feeders were steady but just on packages of cattle.
- 3:36Now we will have probably 3500 and 4000 cattle next week and a
- 3:41lot of people held off for that sale but still had some 3 weight
- 3:45steer cabs up to six and a quarter, some little five £400
- 3:51steers here in a lot of they were all black.
- 3:53They brought 5 1/2 and five weights up to 525 which would
- 3:57sure be steady with last week. Straight 650 weight red and
- 4:02black steers AT415373 was the best we did on 7 weights but
- 4:09again sell them 2436 at a time so not enough volume to get a
- 4:14real good test on the feeders and 35 LB black steers up to
- 4:186365 me upper side of things. Herford and Angus cross heifers
- 4:26weighing 3 1/2 at 5 O2. Their Big Sisters and these Cavs
- 4:31were off the cow 470 at five O 2 and 585 weight heifers, Black
- 4:37and black baldies. They were weaned brought 4 O 77
- 4:40weights at 3:50 and surprisingly for as dry as we are still some
- 4:45interest on some heifers debris. We had some real nice a load of
- 4:49nice 820 LB bangs. Vaccinated black effers went
- 4:53back to the country at 3:47. I thought our cows higher again,
- 5:00which they're you know, unless it just stays drive cows.
- 5:05You know, they're they're just not showing up.
- 5:06They're short everywhere. So consequently, but bucks
- 5:09better on the cows and bulls real good eye yielding bull will
- 5:14still bring more into fats deer. So that doesn't happen very
- 5:18often, but it it's, it's happening now.
- 5:20Yeah, for sure. What are we seeing in the
- 5:23region? Are we following those trends
- 5:24kind of everywhere right now? What are your thoughts there?
- 5:27Warren they really have been 26174 cattle in Dodge City
- 5:32yesterday and they they called their seven and eight week
- 5:35cattle which they're still getting some wheat cattle 5 as
- 5:39much as 15 higher. They're still selling on some 4
- 5:42weight cabs north of $6 and five weight steer calf deal would
- 5:46have been about like ours 520 but some 6 weight grazing
- 5:51cattle. They had some numbers of that
- 5:54weight on up 461 on some steers weigh in six and seven weight
- 6:00cattle at four O 6. Right up there with as good a
- 6:03market as as we've ever had. They sold some 8 weight steers
- 6:07in Dodge City yesterday, 372 Over on the heifer side of
- 6:12things, a little 4 weight heifers at 552.
- 6:16Some 540 LB heifers AT4726 weight heifers to 386, 7 weight
- 6:25effers again replacement kind of 378 and 8 weight heifers up to
- 6:30345. Marana, AZ after a big sale for
- 6:36them last week, a special and a sharply higher market.
- 6:40Got information from Clay just here this morning.
- 6:44But we have an utter cattle and their market sure fully steady
- 6:47with the runaway that they had last week.
- 6:49Got some Red Angus steers weighing 380 for six 41463 LB
- 6:58stairs 562 red weaned red Angus stairs 5 weight stairs to 520
- 7:05and six weights at 447 again in Marana AZ 330 weight heifers at
- 7:13$6 some 415 down efforts at 528 and 6 weight efforts up to 386
- 7:24over in Pratt and and really Salina both calling both markets
- 7:29on Thursday last Thursday that is 5 to 15 in spots 20 higher.
- 7:36So you know the the the rally in the commodity market and the
- 7:41good news that's out there why they they were sure higher and I
- 7:45I'm certain with the big surge in the fat cattle deal we'll be
- 7:49able to report higher prices for them here today after the dust
- 7:52settles. But pretty much on their like
- 7:54cattle 360 LB stairs in Dodge City.
- 7:58Excuse me, Pratt at 657 some 4 weight steer cabs at six dollars
- 8:04five weights 515 six weights 440.
- 8:07They did have some 735 LB stairs at 4:14 at Pratt, weight steers
- 8:15at 383, little 360 LB effers at 592 or 50 weight effers at 470.
- 8:24Some heifers weighed right at 6590 at 422 and they had some 6
- 8:29weight efforts north of $4.00. Four O 9 on some cattle just
- 8:33weighing 6 and some change and the best 7 weight effort AT3598
- 8:39weight cattle in Pratt, KS at 3:45.
- 8:44Salina really probably a little more active on more volume of
- 8:50light cabs. Typically this time of year, the
- 8:53little light cabs kind of start going out of style, but I I
- 8:56think they've got enough feed and and and the moisture
- 8:59situation a little better there some 3 weight steers up to 710
- 9:04four weights up to six and a quarter.
- 9:06Their five weight cattle similar to kind of everybody else, 540
- 9:10weigh in five and 460 at six. A pretty much the same as Brad
- 9:16yeah Salinas 7 weight steer that their top would have been 417
- 9:20heat weight cattle up to 379 heifer side 380 weighted heifer
- 9:26Salina KS 584 weights at 565 weight effort 470 possum 6
- 9:33weights at 410. They did have some 715 valve
- 9:37replacement heifers up to three 81.
- 9:41So, you know, the general trend across doesn't matter if you're
- 9:45in Arizona or Salina, KS or a lot, it's kind of 5 to 15 better
- 9:50this week. Great to hear across the board
- 9:53there and especially you said the word resilient earlier.
- 9:58And I think that that is the perfect way to describe this
- 10:00cattle market right now is it is resilient no matter what's
- 10:04happening on the border in the world right now, we have a very
- 10:09resilient live cattle market. And week after week things just
- 10:13keep on absolutely trying to pound it right now.
- 10:16And every single week we show up and we're like, people are still
- 10:19buying cows. And hey, we're, we're up right
- 10:22now and things are going really great to be going into spring
- 10:25run season and getting ready to start selling off a lot of
- 10:29calves and Cal coming off the mountains and things like that.
- 10:32So it's really encouraging as we go into a very busy time of year
- 10:36for a lot of producers and a very important time of year that
- 10:39we're still seeing some really good numbers and some really
- 10:41good demand and those buyers are still out there filling orders
- 10:44no matter what. Really are and you know, as we
- 10:47talked why, you know, 3 or 235 didn't hold up very long you
- 10:52that's where 10 higher end of last week and that really kind
- 10:56of set the stage for here early in the week.
- 10:59Everybody just had a lot better feeling about the deal and and
- 11:03it certainly was reflected in in the Cavs and the feeders.
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- 12:07So on the topic of beef demand, you've got some other things
- 12:10that we want to talk about today.
- 12:12So John, if you would like to like to just take it away and
- 12:14kind of give us the lowdown on what your thoughts are as far as
- 12:18demand is going and some other key points within that.
- 12:21Well, yeah, rollback on just kind of a refresher what we
- 12:24talked about last week in that, you know, the big surge that you
- 12:27know, cumulative of fact that that we thought we were seeing
- 12:30in in beef demand. And I I just thought it was
- 12:34interesting part of the narrative there in support of
- 12:38everything that we talked about is happening on the other side
- 12:41of the aisle. You know, and the there was a
- 12:44statement from our our competition beyond beef, if you
- 12:48can call them that according to their CEO Ethan Brown,
- 12:52projections for their sales down 20%.
- 12:57And so I thought that was interesting.
- 12:59And of course he had reasons that really we talked about
- 13:03projected, you know, claims and, and, and economic pressures.
- 13:07It's reducing demand, which we're not seeing that so much in
- 13:11the beef deal. But he's kind of blaming, well,
- 13:14you know, it, everything's getting more expensive.
- 13:16And, and that's one of the reasons they're backing off
- 13:19beyond beef. But they also claim that a surge
- 13:22in what he's calling pseudoscientific narrative that
- 13:26is promoting red meat. So I, I don't, I don't know
- 13:30about pseudoscientific, but people are just, you know, kind
- 13:34of changed hats and change gears on, on consumption of red meat.
- 13:38And he said we're seeing that as a reflection on, on, on our
- 13:42product and the consumer sentiment and, and trends
- 13:46favoring traditional meat have shifted.
- 13:48Again, this is all coming from the the CEO of Beyond Beef.
- 13:53He explained that put the political dynamic and I I I call
- 13:57that the Robert Kennedy effect has shifted what he's calling
- 14:01cultural demand and that he also in his ending there.
- 14:06He explained the lack of the annual report was due to some
- 14:10accounting irregularities. So brother, but you know, he, he
- 14:14maintains that the Beyond Beef business model is on track, but
- 14:21which you know, sounds, sounds great to me, but it's pretty
- 14:24hard to rally the truth. But when the, when your product
- 14:27sucks. So that that might be as big as
- 14:30dilemma there. But, and I thought just to
- 14:32refresh because I needed to refresh myself a little bit on
- 14:36what Beyond Beef actually is. And you go through the
- 14:40ingredient label. It's mostly water, but yeah, you
- 14:43get the the taste from yellow peas, avocado oil, brown rice
- 14:49and fava beans. And they add a little beet juice
- 14:53to it for some color. But they do caution anybody with
- 14:58allergies that, you know, if you start looking like a lime of
- 15:02bean and you're covered with red beet spots, they encourage you
- 15:06to go to the emergency room. You you've either gotten measles
- 15:09or beyond meat plague. They do have some pretty solid
- 15:13endorsements for their product. Bill Gates, Snoop Dogg and some
- 15:17guy that rides a a snowboard. All the experts in nutrition I'm
- 15:22I'm sure and if Beyond beef with beet juice is not your idea of a
- 15:28perfect hamburger, you can always opt for an Impossible
- 15:32burger and it uses discarded motor oil, food starch, and
- 15:37potato pulp. The burger gets its meaty taste
- 15:40from a genetically engineered molecule GMO, and This mystery
- 15:46product is a result of a union between Snoop Dogg and soy
- 15:51hemoglobin and marketing experts predict that the proposed video
- 15:57of Snoop Dogg hooking up with a soybean will probably outsell
- 16:00the burger. If you stomach all of that
- 16:02image, why a retail price of $13 a pound plus 370 additional
- 16:09milligrams of salt, you'd be the winner of the Impossible Beef
- 16:13challenge. You know you got a gift.
- 16:15The guy credit, though, and he he saved Martha Stewart and made
- 16:19her an Olympic star. Maybe the check off should work
- 16:22on their image and take another approach.
- 16:25He'll just hire a gang banger and a ex convent might be a new
- 16:29new direction for them. So short and sweet today.
- 16:32But if you have questions about beyond beef or an Impossible
- 16:36Burger, there's your answer. Yeah, little Snoop of genetics.
- 16:41Beet juice and get it all. I mean, as a marketing expert
- 16:45myself, John, self-proclaimed marketing expert, may I say I, I
- 16:50think that their approach is pretty solid.
- 16:53If I do say so myself, Like, you know, get an ex convict in there
- 16:56and Snoop Dogg and clean house. You're you're good to go, ladies
- 17:01and gentlemen. Like, what more could you ask
- 17:03for? Yeah, don't, don't worry that
- 17:05they're over down 20%. Like, you know, just keep
- 17:08pushing the narrative there, there.
- 17:09Sure. Exactly, exactly.
- 17:11Every John, everyone's sales are down right now.
- 17:14Don't you know, it's we're in an economic downturn.
- 17:17Prices are too damn high. Exactly.
- 17:20Every place but be. Oh my God.
- 17:23Really you would like me I what I really was hinting about off
- 17:27air. Wouldn't that be just a a a a a
- 17:30real dose of good news. You have me in as a guest
- 17:34lecturer one time at Lectora at at your marketing deal.
- 17:38You know. You don't find this kind of
- 17:41material in a textbook. You're going to find this hard
- 17:44to believe, but I did not retrieve this information out of
- 17:47one of your marketing handbooks. That is hands on cutting edge
- 17:52experience talking right there. Real, real life shit.
- 17:56I mean the real deal. I would have 100% attendance in
- 17:59class that day. I know.
- 18:01And I can't believe how many people you have enrolled in that
- 18:03class. My gosh. 140 of them all show up
- 18:08in one day as a miracle in and of itself, but have John
- 18:13Campbell as a guest speaker and. Where are we?
- 18:15You would have to make attendance mandatory or you get
- 18:19a failing grade. That's the only way you'd fill
- 18:21that house up. Jeez.
- 18:24At CSU I walked into a lecture hall and there was like 400 and
- 18:31some people in there and it was taught by ATV set accounting
- 18:34one. No wonder why.
- 18:39Yeah, you can't say I I didn't. Too good at the counselor,
- 18:43whatever he said. John, the work that you're doing
- 18:45is right, but accountants are paid by the hour.
- 18:49They say you're just not getting your work done.
- 18:51I said now I run out of time. That's funny.
- 18:56I love it. I love it.
- 18:57Well, I mean on the beyond like beef.
- 19:00And can they even call it that? Whatever the hell beyond pile of
- 19:04Smuck is, they're trying to sell to you.
- 19:07Or whatever it is but I. Don't think we use the beef
- 19:11name, but they're I. I don't think there's.
- 19:12About 7 states for the, for the, you know, where, where you're
- 19:17taking actual bovine tissue and then growing lab bait.
- 19:23There's several states, I think 7 last count said you can no
- 19:27longer call that beef. And so they're throwing that out
- 19:30the window and then you got great states like Oklahoma that
- 19:33throws the whole deal out, you know, saying you, you can't even
- 19:36use the word beef, I think, but I'm pretty sure I'm, I'm correct
- 19:40about the lab grown from animal or mammalian tissue.
- 19:43I, I, I don't, I don't think they can tie those two together,
- 19:47but. Yeah, you're correct.
- 19:48And they also included milk in on that.
- 19:50So if you notice, you don't see almond milk anymore or things
- 19:54like that, like it's the same concept as soap.
- 19:57Like they can't have the word soap on something if it doesn't
- 19:59have a certain product in it. And so a lot of times you'll see
- 20:02like cleansing wash or things like that, like it's the same
- 20:05concept there. And so I think that you're
- 20:07correct there. But I mean, I think the biscuit
- 20:09just goes to continue to show that Americans are really
- 20:12leaning into what they're putting into their bodies.
- 20:16And we've been seeing that since COVID that that's really been a
- 20:19trend that people are looking at ingredient labels again that
- 20:22they're really starting to. Evaluate how they're fueling
- 20:26their bodies. And I think that not to tune our
- 20:29to our own horns too much as beef producers, but beef has
- 20:31done a very good job over the past six years of communicating
- 20:36its nutritional value and its value on your plate, especially
- 20:40in comparison to the alternatives.
- 20:42Because for years we've had alternatives like soy
- 20:44alternatives or tofu or things like that.
- 20:47And when the vegetarian diet was really high and mighty and all
- 20:50of these things, a few years later, a lot of research started
- 20:53coming out saying you are all malnutrition, malnutrition
- 20:57because you do not have the vitamins and essential amino
- 21:00acids and everything that you need in your diet.
- 21:02And you look at beef and it's like, hey, one burger is going
- 21:06to get you everything you need for an entire day.
- 21:08Like put that vitamin supplement stack away and just go eat some
- 21:12damn beef. And people really started to
- 21:14listen and do that. And I think that that's been one
- 21:16of the most encouraging things is when people are given the
- 21:19option between two items where it's like a fake meat or it's
- 21:23real meat. They're really leaning towards
- 21:25the real meat, especially in an economical standpoint as well,
- 21:29that it just doesn't make sense to have an Impossible burger
- 21:33that's going to taste like you're chewing on a chunk of tar
- 21:35anyway. And I mean, if you're not going
- 21:38to eat meat, just don't eat meat.
- 21:39Don't try and replace it with something that looks like meat
- 21:41and inside with beet juice. Well, and the whole narrative is
- 21:46has changed and these truths are coming out that I think the mass
- 21:50is new or right. They just needed somebody to
- 21:53substantiate it away from processed foods.
- 21:57We all know that's crap. You know, you can't eat Doritos
- 22:01and beyond beef and all a salt. It's all a process chunk form
- 22:06section product that that is just and and like I said, the
- 22:11the ship and the move is really away from all of this process
- 22:15stuff and they this impossible beef and beyond burger just got
- 22:21in the gate with all of that. Plus they dump all kinds of salt
- 22:25in it and just things that we knew overindulgence.
- 22:29Any of that stuff wasn't good. But again, to repeat myself,
- 22:33somebody has finally come out and substantiated that with some
- 22:36facts that says, you know, we're going back to meat, the melt,
- 22:41the cheese, the vegetables, the fruit.
- 22:43And that's what the whole dynamic for our life forever has
- 22:47been built upon the foundation. And we're we're just going right
- 22:51back to it. And people are saying, you know,
- 22:53that sounds right, doesn't it? And they're, they're just eating
- 22:56it up and then taking it and running with it.
- 22:59You know it. Good for them, good for
- 23:00everybody. And it's a it's really easy sell
- 23:04when you when you think about it.
- 23:05Well, yeah. And it's also one of those
- 23:07things that like, look at your own individual lives.
- 23:10Like my husband and I, we have also jumped on that bandwagon
- 23:13train. If we don't eat any processed
- 23:15foods anymore, pretty much all of our meals are some type of
- 23:18steak of some sort or meat source like a steak and veggies.
- 23:23Like that's what we're having pretty much for every meal,
- 23:24John, I'm not having a rib eye for every single meal.
- 23:26Put that, put that face away. I'm not having a rib eye for
- 23:29every meal, but we're having some sort of really high quality
- 23:33meat and then veggies. And that's, that's all our meals
- 23:36are. And I mean, for me, you couldn't
- 23:38convince convince me to pull out the thick box of cereal anymore
- 23:42or the frozen little breakfast sandwiches or anything like that
- 23:46because I feel so great that I look at that food and I'm like,
- 23:49why would I eat that? I'm going to feel like shit.
- 23:51And I think other Americans are finally figuring that out for
- 23:54themselves too. And like you said, it's really
- 23:57nice to now be able to be like, OK, for years people have been
- 23:59kind of leaning this way. And now we have some ground to
- 24:01stand on of like, no, this research is really coming out
- 24:04and it's really starting to point towards these new trends.
- 24:08And actually, it's like positive trends too.
- 24:11Yeah, the the real basis of that whole ranch you just went on is
- 24:16that electrician husband yours is knocking down some serious
- 24:20bucks Costco for Easter and a man they've got a good product
- 24:27there and we don't you know Costco in Lahana.
- 24:30We we just think that's what something cost plus so much.
- 24:33That's the only Costco we got. But where was I at?
- 24:37I Norman or Fort Worth or somewhere over Easter before the
- 24:42day before Easter and my gosh, I mean 5 prime tenders, just $100
- 24:48bill won't cover it, you know, And holy mackerel, but.
- 24:53John, I wish I could say I am. I I I'm not going out and buying
- 24:58all of these things. I am still raiding the freezer.
- 25:00Back at the ranch. So I go home, We have an
- 25:02investment property out at the ranch right now that we're
- 25:05renovating. It was my grandma's old place.
- 25:07She decided to move, so we bought it and we're turning it
- 25:10into an investment property. So I'm going back to the ranch
- 25:12more often than I have been in the past.
- 25:15I'm there a few times a week now.
- 25:17And I got there the other day and my dad was like, hey, you
- 25:20can raid the freezer while you're here.
- 25:21And he's a single man, no one's living anymore.
- 25:25And I I opened the freezer are up and I started throwing it all
- 25:29in and I was like, you do not have to tell me twice.
- 25:32I was like boat, you know, anytime you're in Manhattan, you
- 25:34come on over and we'll we'll grill some steaks up for you.
- 25:36But we'll, we'll keep them in. We'll keep them, we'll keep them
- 25:39safe. We'll keep them safe in our
- 25:41freezer for you. In the meantime, he's eating two
- 25:45week old bread that he's have to pull the mold off of and slice
- 25:49of cheese. If everyone wants a real meal,
- 25:51he's got to go to his daughter's house.
- 25:53I know how that works. I know how that.
- 25:55And it's not because he can't cook for himself.
- 25:58It's because he doesn't want to. John, come on.
- 26:01You know the drill. You can.
- 26:03Have a. Steak.
- 26:03Dinner with a baby. Girl and just go out.
- 26:06There hunting and whatever you want, but I'm still not buying
- 26:09your off the pepperoni pizza. You're eating some pepperoni on
- 26:13the side somewhere or some salami or don't give me that all
- 26:18non processed you college. John, I'm allergic to.
- 26:22Pork. You can't eat pizza without
- 26:25pepperoni. I'm allergic to pork.
- 26:27I can't have pepperoni and sausage on my pizza.
- 26:30Get out of here. I'm not kidding.
- 26:33I'm not kidding. I'm allergic to pork.
- 26:35My body can't process it. You talk about he's got some
- 26:40ammunition now. I mean, he was just kind of
- 26:42shooting from the edges. I got some real stuff for him,
- 26:47you know, She's allergic to pork duties.
- 26:50He's out on the salami. Baloney.
- 26:52Pepperoni. Yeah.
- 26:54What do you eat? Don't tell me you put pineapple
- 26:57on your pizza, please. You do.
- 26:59That's it. That's it.
- 27:02That's it. That's it, man.
- 27:05Later. Like, tell Dan.
- 27:07Oh, yeah, he's going to have he'll have his hat and
- 27:10underwear. Bolf on backwards next time
- 27:12'cause he will be gearing up. Take a run at you.
- 27:15Pineapple and beef on pizza. Don't knock it till you try it.
- 27:18It's pretty darn great, and that's all I have.
- 27:20To say yeah, and you dip it in ranch dressing, do, don't you?
- 27:24I know. I know what's going on.
- 27:26I know what's going on up there. All that stuff.
- 27:29Stop telling me about processed foods and all.
- 27:32Listen, my gosh, I. Guess so.
- 27:34Fun fact, I also like Hidden Valley Ranch is also something I
- 27:38can't have. Oh, now I got to start a latest
- 27:42like I just that Hidden Valley Ranch it tastes.
- 27:45Darn good, but my body just doesn't like it the way that it
- 27:48used. Well, we won't get into allergic
- 27:51reactions and stuff, you know, but but you look good and I know
- 27:57if you'll cancel the show while you're broke out because you got
- 28:00in the old bacon rinds or pork rinds or something somewhere.
- 28:04And Elsie's, She's down and out for a week.
- 28:07Oh, geez, Louise. Hey, I have figured out that
- 28:10they make beef bacon and it's pretty darn good, so I do.
- 28:14I did get that void in my life, Phil, because that was the
- 28:17biggest thing, you know, I can live without some pork chops.
- 28:20I can live without sausage. I'll just have chicken sausage
- 28:23or beef sausage or something like that, or venison sausage.
- 28:25Sage and I, I was fine, but bacon was really sad.
- 28:28And I did find out that every once in a while, if I hit up
- 28:30Hyvee at the right time, they've got some beef bacon.
- 28:33Living, living a good life over here.
- 28:35I wonder what I like 2 things I know the answer but I would
- 28:39think would stop a lot of people is where to chicken Nuggets come
- 28:43from and then I also to add to that list I want to know where
- 28:46beef bacon comes from so that. Same place pork bacon comes
- 28:51from. It comes from the belly.
- 28:52That'll be the trivia question for the day.
- 28:54I I know it's like a. Thinly sliced underbelly.
- 28:57Of of beef, you know, chicken Nuggets.
- 29:00Have you ever tried to castrate a chicken?
- 29:02That's tough. That's no I know where chicken
- 29:04Nuggets come from. They're rice than they are
- 29:07blessed. Hell, it takes 116 chickens just
- 29:11to make a pound of chicken Nuggets.
- 29:12Well, here let's figure out where does beef bacon come from?
- 29:18That you're going to tell me it comes.
- 29:20From a cow Nuggets Beef bacon is made from the beef belly, also
- 29:24called the navel or plate get. Out of here, yeah.
- 29:27You're. Just pulling that out of you
- 29:30know where that you beef bacon. It says some some processors use
- 29:35brisket round or Chuck as well. OK, Brisket, I would believe.
- 29:38OK, Yeah, some process and the other 3.
- 29:44What Hyvee does? I just know that the beef belly
- 29:48beef belly, you know that's they're probably going to start
- 29:50trading that on the Chicago Merc beef beef belly.
- 29:53That's nothing. I'm going to bring up with Dan
- 29:55just as quick as we're off air you and imagine who my first
- 29:59calls going to all this correct. You and you.
- 30:03Guys are saying you guys have been doubling up on that poor
- 30:06guy and the hell you've got him order shreds and beat down to
- 30:10nothing and he needs somebody on his side and I'm the guy.
- 30:14He does. He does.
- 30:15Maybe we need you and Dan and me and Samantha on a podcast.
- 30:18I don't think anything would get accomplished, but at least Dan
- 30:21wouldn't feel alone. Yeah.
- 30:24At least Dan when it feel alone. R rated version of Family Feud
- 30:28or something? That's exactly what it would be,
- 30:31actually. Dan was so tired of our shit
- 30:34this last week that he said you and Samantha do it yourselves.
- 30:37I'm out, I'm out. I'll see you all next week.
- 30:43Well, now you can go provide Dan with a list of ammunition and
- 30:46you can say here, have fun on the podcast next week with
- 30:48Lauren. You can absolutely go to town.
- 30:53You can't be absent because we'll know you got it in the
- 30:56pork bellies and believe me, I can run forever with this.
- 31:00How you're setting it home with a bag of pork rinds, watching TV
- 31:04in your underwear, and hell, your old face is broke out.
- 31:06I know I. You know, John, if I was
- 31:08allergic to beef, it'd be one thing, but I don't feel like I'm
- 31:11missing out on life being allergic to pork.
- 31:13So I get to be a beef producer over here that gets to say, hey,
- 31:17I'm allergic to pork. I can't eat your pork chops.
- 31:19Give me a steak. Thank you and good night.
- 31:21I still like them. I like it.
- 31:23A good pork chop or a pork rib and I like.
- 31:25I'm OK without. It my husband is sad about it
- 31:28because he doesn't get to eat anymore either but.
- 31:31I'll bet. Yeah, I was gone for two weeks
- 31:32and I was like, you should cook those pork chops that are in the
- 31:34freezer. Yeah, right, because knowing
- 31:37you, you took him down with you. If I can't have pork chop, you
- 31:41can't have one. Solitary.
- 31:45I know, I know. Maybe I love it, John.
- 31:47Well, anything else we need to cover today other than Lauren's
- 31:50list of allergies and any other ammunition that you would want
- 31:54to give Dan? Yes, yes, beef bacon and so no,
- 31:59I, I think that's it till till next week.
- 32:02But next week, if you show up there, I'm going to be kind of
- 32:04like. John, if I show up in La Hana,
- 32:07you better, you better hide, you better run.
- 32:09Yeah. No, I know it.
- 32:11I know it. I love it.
- 32:12I love it. Well, you and Dan can discuss
- 32:14your ammunition for each other. Dan can talk to you about how I
- 32:17air fry my steaks and you can talk to him about how I can't
- 32:21have pork and my beef, bacon and beef belly.
- 32:26Yeah, antics. So have fun.
- 32:28Have fun boys. Well, John, as always, thank you
- 32:30so much for your time today. To all of you listeners.
- 32:32We will see you all next time on another episode of the Cattle
- 32:35USA Daily Podcast. Have a good one y'all.