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Texans vs Steelers NFL DFS Showdown | Wild Card Round MNF | Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Ball system's going clear. You lift up. What's up?
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  Speaker 2: Every one?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo back for another
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  Speaker 1: edition of the Monday Night Football Show. It's a special
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  Speaker 1: one this week. It is the wild card weekend. Wrapping up.
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  Speaker 1: We've got the Texans at the Steelers. Gonna break it
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  Speaker 1: all down from a DraftKings fan duel showdown perspective, Gonna
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  Speaker 1: PGA just around the corner. Title and hoop here with
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  Speaker 1: me as always Hoopster, what's going on? My friend? Crazy
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: weekend of games. Regardless of the DFS results for anybody
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  Speaker 1: out there, it was a wild weekend of amazing games.
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  Speaker 2: Really yeah, I mean you take everything out of the
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  Speaker 2: equation just besides like the entertainment standpoint, and it's been
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  Speaker 2: just absolutely phenomenal. I mean these games have been great.
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  Speaker 2: I mean even the first game, everyone thought, Okay, the
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  Speaker 2: Rams are gonna smoke the Panthers. Like not the case.
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  Speaker 2: They had to march down the field and score at
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  Speaker 2: the end to win. So good for sports when there's
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  Speaker 2: like parody, you know, like this, not like baseball or
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  Speaker 2: like MLB or NBA and you know these other sports.
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  Speaker 2: Like the parody in sports is just huge. It makes
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  Speaker 2: such a difference. And I think that's what we see
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  Speaker 2: this year. A lot of people are talking, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because the Chiefs are out, it's more wide open. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. I just think it's the direction that the
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  Speaker 2: sport is going with how they run the draft and
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  Speaker 2: the draft picks and the salary cap and things like that.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is a direct result of that. And
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  Speaker 2: it's been fun to watch. I mean every game besides
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  Speaker 2: last night that was pathetic. I mean that was absolutely pathetic.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever their Chargers were trying to do or whatever their
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  Speaker 2: game plan was was absolute dogshit. I mean that was
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  Speaker 2: really bad. But outside of that, we had what is it,
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  Speaker 2: five solid games, four solid games, four solid games and
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  Speaker 2: one shitter to out take that all day. So it's
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  Speaker 2: been a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, someone said it title. I think it's funny. The
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  Speaker 1: you know, when you get a bunch of randomness on
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  Speaker 1: the season, that's what makes for good games. I know,
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  Speaker 1: when it's like an island game of whatever, two random
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  Speaker 1: teams you want to pick, the Titans and the Saints
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  Speaker 1: or something. It's obviously gonna be bad. People know that,
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  Speaker 1: or they say this's gonna be horrible. When you get
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  Speaker 1: into the playoffs and it's winner, go home, and then
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  Speaker 1: you get these rivalries and you get these certain matchups
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  Speaker 1: early on, it can make for some really good games
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  Speaker 1: because there's so much uncertainty. I watched all those games
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  Speaker 1: and I still don't know who's winning the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: No one does. But I mean it's not like any
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  Speaker 1: other year where you're like, yeah, well it's probably this
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  Speaker 1: or probably that. I still don't have that feeling fully
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  Speaker 1: off of how close some of those games were. How
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  Speaker 1: you do my friend and what was your thoughts on
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  Speaker 1: the weekend so far before you get into this one?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, doing well? I mean you couldn't oop set it good.
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  Speaker 3: I mean every single game except the last one, but
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  Speaker 3: it was still close. Yesterday the night game wasn't great football,
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  Speaker 3: but it was still a one possession game most of
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  Speaker 3: the time.
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  Speaker 4: Just amazing.
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  Speaker 3: What I see, though, is coaching discrepancies to coaching differences
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  Speaker 3: is really really big in the NFL. I mean, Matt
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  Speaker 3: Lafleur got that one right. He's been a donkey for
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  Speaker 3: a while. It was full force in that one. Nick
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  Speaker 3: Sirianni the Eagles little fraudish. It seems Shanahan put on
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  Speaker 3: a masterclass. Coaching is very very important. Little decisions when
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  Speaker 3: to use the timeout, when not to stuff like that
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  Speaker 3: can change everything. So yeah, I've enjoyed watching. I've watched
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  Speaker 3: every snap of all of them, and excited for tonight too.
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  Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. I'm cheered for the Texans for some Survivors stuff,
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  Speaker 3: but man, it would be nice to see Aaron Rodgers
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  Speaker 3: get a dob right now too.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm excited for this one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all I was just gonna say quickly because
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  Speaker 1: the titles. Boy, but do you think I know there's
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  Speaker 1: already been talking if he's good, he'll come back next
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  Speaker 1: to year Da da da da, like if if. But
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  Speaker 1: I think do you think a lot of it is
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  Speaker 1: predicated off tonight and what ends up happening, Like if
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  Speaker 1: he wins, he moves on versus if he loses. Do
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  Speaker 1: you think this could be his last game?
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  Speaker 3: I think it could be, but I don't think it
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  Speaker 3: really predicates I think he's a guy that takes every
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  Speaker 3: day on its own, and he'll go based on the
• 4:17
  Speaker 3: summer in an offseason, then am I bored?
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  Speaker 4: Do I still want to play football? Do I still
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  Speaker 4: have it?
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  Speaker 3: He knows the daily grinding all that, So I really
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  Speaker 3: think it'll come down to probably July for him August,
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  Speaker 3: and he'll go from there.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it's tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Now. My one question which I I think it's interesting
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  Speaker 2: is the Bills thing like that that touchdown at the end.
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  Speaker 2: You you think I fully convinced that it that it
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  Speaker 2: was like I get it. Like at first I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is so stupid, but like, imagine the backlash if
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  Speaker 2: you don't take the free touchdown and they don't score there?
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  Speaker 2: What if there's a fumble or a false start they
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  Speaker 2: go back five yards? Like at first glance watching the game,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, that is so stupid just to score
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  Speaker 2: right away, like you got to you gotta take a
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  Speaker 2: knee or something right at the one. But thinking about
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  Speaker 2: it again, like then you got three downs, something bad
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  Speaker 2: could happen, a false start, then you're back at the
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  Speaker 2: five and it's probably fifty to fifty to score potential
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  Speaker 2: fumble three stops potentially at the goal end. Not likely,
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  Speaker 2: but that is in play, like the team's given you
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  Speaker 2: a free touchdown. Like I don't know, I'm kind of
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  Speaker 2: I've kind of reversed my initial thought on it and said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, maybe just take the points and put your
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  Speaker 2: defense out there. I don't know, I can see both.
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  Speaker 4: I think.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's independent on the situation. When the opposing
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  Speaker 3: kicker can boot it from fifty yards with any yards
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  Speaker 3: that sent it to ot, that's a different ballgame than
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  Speaker 3: Brandon mcmannus who's already missed two field goals, or you
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  Speaker 3: have the Houston defense. I just think you're nothing's given
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  Speaker 3: for sure if they I don't think taking the knees
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  Speaker 3: right or as much as just like maybe just like
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  Speaker 3: you lose like half a yard and then you trust
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  Speaker 3: yourself on the next I think the time they.
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  Speaker 4: Could have ticked off.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously it worked for him, but man, I think the
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  Speaker 3: odds of I think the odds increased to win and the.
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  Speaker 4: Books would have showed that if he did do that.
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  Speaker 3: But I do think every every situation is independent. Having
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  Speaker 3: one of the best kickers on the other side, it
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  Speaker 3: makes it a little harder for me to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Who did the did the bots have it or did
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  Speaker 1: anybody pull it to see like how bad that really was.
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  Speaker 1: Because my my actual right from the beginning, and I
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  Speaker 1: actually still stand by it, is as dumb as McDermott
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  Speaker 1: is on like a billion things. There's way too many
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  Speaker 1: ways that can get messed up and like to kneel
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  Speaker 1: it and then wait.
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  Speaker 2: Tea earlier in the season in it backfired. It was
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  Speaker 2: in the regular season. I can't remember what game it was,
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  Speaker 2: but it backfired. It was pretty much the same scenario
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  Speaker 2: and they didn't end up scoring.
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  Speaker 3: And they also just got thirteen on the QB sneak
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  Speaker 3: two plays before, like he got, they got the they
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  Speaker 3: got the biggest quarterback like I did it.
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  Speaker 4: No. I still think Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah it was the Patriots, And I still
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  Speaker 2: think the right move was to not score on the
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  Speaker 2: first play. I do, but I think it's a little
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  Speaker 2: bit closer than I initially thought when you start factoring
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  Speaker 2: and some of these other other things, Like you said
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  Speaker 2: the kicker things good. I mean a lot of these
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  Speaker 2: kickoffs are getting the ball at the thirty five for
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  Speaker 2: that guy, it's what fifteen more yards and then he
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  Speaker 2: has a chance to make a field. But then at
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  Speaker 2: that point it's still is that it would have been
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  Speaker 2: a tie game, so you're still battling. So I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of factors. I don't think it's as
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  Speaker 2: you know, cut and dry as everyone was making it
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  Speaker 2: out to be.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. It's definitely one of the ones that
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  Speaker 1: I want to look more into it because I didn't
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  Speaker 1: think of it till now. Again, but I do remember
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  Speaker 1: thinking about it at the time and I was like, man,
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  Speaker 1: I just don't see as many teams taking that risk on.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess what, like title said, because you
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  Speaker 1: got the kicker on the other side, there's more variables always,
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  Speaker 1: but lots of decisions need to be made and some
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  Speaker 1: are very bad and others are kind of interesting. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: fun weekend nonetheless, So we'll get to this one in
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  Speaker 1: your grand scheme overview. We've got Texans at the Steelers
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  Speaker 1: get right into it here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I hoping it makes a wildcard weekend five out
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  Speaker 2: of six in terms of solid games, and I think
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  Speaker 2: it has the potential to do just that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the total is not what total is not
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  Speaker 2: big in this game. I mean it's a relatively low
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  Speaker 2: total compared to what we saw the rest of the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: But I think there's a think there's a chance for
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  Speaker 2: for something to happen here offensively, and either way, I
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  Speaker 2: think we can get a good, solid game on the
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  Speaker 2: On the Texans side, I mean they've started to consolidate
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. It looks like, you know, Woody Marks
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  Speaker 2: kind of gets a majority of the work now. He
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  Speaker 2: was splitting for a majority of the season, but come
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  Speaker 2: playoff times, it looked like, you know, it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be his backfield, and that's good for for DFS. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's good for tonight. Nico Collins is an absolute stud.
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  Speaker 2: And then you have some big play guys. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Higgins made big plays at the end, Jalen Noel made
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  Speaker 2: big plays at the end of the season. And then
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  Speaker 2: you got a guy in Dalton Schultz at the tight
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  Speaker 2: end position that can rack up a ton of catches.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously, you guys know that I love myself some
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  Speaker 2: some Dalton Schultz on the Steelers side. Getting DK metcalf
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  Speaker 2: back that improves the chances of this game getting some
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  Speaker 2: back and forth. Kenneth Gainwell kind of being you know,
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, I guess wide receiver to last week, probably
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  Speaker 2: kind of like wide receiver one. He you know, he
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  Speaker 2: fits Aaron Rodgers perfectly. What Aaron Rodgers loves to do.
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  Speaker 2: When you get in Aaron rodgers good graces, you tended
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  Speaker 2: to get on the field a lot. And that's what
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  Speaker 2: we've seen with gain Well. And then no, who's the
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  Speaker 2: big boy tight end? No, Darnell Washington to night. So
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  Speaker 2: it looks like Pat Fryarmouth is going to kind of
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  Speaker 2: get a little boost. And an interesting fact, I had
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  Speaker 2: no idea. I just found this out looking at the
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  Speaker 2: DraftKings playerpool that Donald Parham Junior is a part of
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  Speaker 2: the Steelers organization. Had no idea, just found that out,
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  Speaker 2: saw his name there and that got me excited to
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  Speaker 2: preach out. I wish it was that. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be active or anything. Is he on I
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: think he's actually on the he's on the injured list anyway,
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: but he's a part of the Steelers, and that made
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: me somewhat excited. But yeah, I think we have a chance.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: You know, the main pieces for the Steelers right now
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: are going to be Metcalf and Kenneth game well, two
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: guys at catch passes, which is good for kind of
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: keeping the game going well. And then on the Steelers side,
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: you have you got some big play wide receivers he
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: have Schultz. I think there's a chance we could see
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: some back and forth here in maybe an over game
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: and hopefully a close competitive overgame. I know we're talking
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: pre show, and I think all three of us are
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: in the same same boat for the playoffs survivor stuff
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: where we need Houston to win. But I think it's
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: I think it could go either way in terms of
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: who wins this one.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, title, I'll let you start the captains in a second,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: but the you know, Rogers, we already talked about the
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Steelers team though, just you know Rogers is a gamer,
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: so it starts with him and then whenever he decides
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: to find out there as you know, but like Toop said,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: he finds his favorites, he gets Metcalf back, he's got
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: gain Well there he can hit up Fryar moove John
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: who shit. Somebody said in the chat they'll be getting
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Hayward for the first Tuddy he can hit him. So
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: he's got all kinds of options over there. It's the
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: defense of Houston that people love and the fact that
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: you've got you know, Nico stroudch Alt. It's easy to stack,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. So I'm curious to you just
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: if you have anything add from a roster, constructions thoughts
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: or like how people are building because the other thing
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: I'm hearing too a lot of and I'll put it
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: in the later. But I'm sure if we just ask
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: people right now who's winning and over or under, I
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: think we would just hear a lot of Texans under right,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: because it has to be that way. Last night, that's
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: how it went. You see this game very similar to
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: last night. I don't know if it will necessarily be
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: that case. It's a playoff game. Anything can happen. A
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: lot of people didn't think the Panthers were gonna put
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: up points. A lot of people didn't think a lot
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: of things, But what's your thoughts any any quick ads
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: and then you could start us on the captains.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely a tough game for DFS and ownership
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: will be spread out. Like when we're looking at the
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: captain position. The highest own is Nico Collins at about
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: nineteen percent CJ sixteen twelve, gain Well eleven DK, so
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: no one projected over twenty, which is nice and it
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: makes sense at thirty eight and a half total. I'm
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: looking at touchdown props plus one forty for Nico to score,
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: plus one seventy for Woody, and after that the best
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: is plus two to twenty for gain Well, so no
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: one favored to score a touchdown in this game. Both
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: running backs like Gainwell Warren some sort of a split game.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Will's out snapped them a little bit as of Lakes
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: and expect that to continue. But both have big price
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: tags and we don't know about that, which makes it
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: fun for DFS. And like Coop said Woody Marx so
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Juar Jordan, the backup was overtaken Nick Chubb as RB
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: two and he's not playing today, so I do expect
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: it to be almost all Woody Mark's backfield, which is
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: important going on in last thing for the roster construction,
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: I do think four to two Texans will probably be
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: the most popular. Of course three three will be there
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: as well. But once you start putting in more Steelers
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: than you do Texans, I think that's a way to
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: get a little different on this slate and only a
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: three point spread. I'm definitely a wide open er. My
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: ears are open in terms of captains and what you
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: guys are doing. I don't really plan on having too
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: many huge stands. I think the two that stand out
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: to me the most when looking at ownership is DK
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Metcalf and Jalen Warren. Warren at four percent, like again,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: I get it, Gain Weell's outsnapped him. He's definitely been better,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: the better pass catcher. But should he be three times
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: higher owned at the captain, I don't know. I do
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: think the Steelers try and run the football as much
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: as they can. This Houston defense is nasty. Rogers has
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: no mobility, so I think they're gonna want to play action,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: and the best way to play action is establish the run.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: So I think Jillen Warren is interesting at captain at
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: very low ownership leverages off of Gainwell stuff. And I mean,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: if gain was really more popular than DK up Top,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: which we haven't projected, and he might. That's a wide
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: receiver one that Rodgers is very fine throwing one on
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: one balls, Like, yeah, worried about Stingley in this defense.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: If he's one on one, Rogers doesn't care who's a
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: cross roam. He's gonna throw it up. So I think
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: there's upside there after those two, Like, yeah, Nico, of
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: course I'll play some, but as the chalkiest guy in
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: in a thirty eight and a half total, I probably
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: gonna come on underweight to him at the captain spot.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: If CJ.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Stroud's really sixteen and a half seventeen percent, no way
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: I want to play that much there. Then I think
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: it's probably just gain Well, Woody Marx. And if Rogers
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: is five percent, give me him three times three times
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: less owned than CJ.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Up Top.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: So Warren, DK, Gainwell, Woody marks I think are my favorites.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the Rogers call out of all that.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, you mentioned a bunch of stuff there that
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I like, and I think we'll line up on. But
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: for the first part of the captain talk, is definitely Rogers.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I think if the Steelers are in the game, it's
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: a large part because of him, And I know people
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: want to get on Metcalf because he's just coming back.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I know people want to get on like what they
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: would look at as game script independent for good reason
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: with someone like Kenneth Gainwell, like you mentioned, like sure,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: they're gonna get to him because they can catch passes
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: and if they're up or down that can make it work.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I think all those are good, but I'm hoping that
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Rogers can spread it around and if that's the case
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: and keep them in the game. Think he's very valuable
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: at whatever it is, like five percent six percent that
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: we end up seeing, even if it gets boosted a
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: little bit. I don't see that steam mattering too much.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I definitely see him as a really good option. I
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: think Stroud's fine on the other side, only because he
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: does like to spread it around. The other thing people
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: mentioned it, I don't care at all about these things,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: especially in a playoff one v one like you know,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: one and done type game like Welcome Nico Collins to
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Joey Porter Junior Island. I get it. That's a bad
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: island to go to in football. But it's like, these
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: guys can find their way around. But if they don't,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: then I think that can help Stroud because then I
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: don't you don't normally see like a it's all Higgins game,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: it's all Christian Kirk or something. It's gonna be spread around.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: So that's why I would like Stroud with passing his
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: running backs. Maybe Collins picked up some catches, but it's
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: better in the flex. You got Higgins, you got Kirk,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Noel Schaltz, whoever. Like, all those guys are capable. So
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I do like both quarterbacks. The Warren talk, he won't
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: get steamed up. The chat's worried, but if we talk
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: him up, he'll get steamed up. He's gonna stay right
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: where he is, especially at nine k or as we're
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: talking to Captain thirteen to five three hundred bucks. Less
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: gets you gain well, and people definitely like him more
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: so Hoop anything you want to add up here. I mean,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: those are some of my favorites as they stand up.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: But maybe the tight ends to get different. But you know,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: it's tough to say. Maybe Schultz more than friar Mouth
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: or trying to pick that side.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: What do you got Yeah, I love of the similar
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: thoughts that you guys kind of laid out, like fine
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: with Nico Collins, Like I don't love that, you know,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be the highest owned on the slate, but
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: like if you're playing one hundred and fifty teams are
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: gonna have some Nico Collins. I'm fine with that. I'm
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: more disturbed with the C. J. Stroud being right there too,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Like I kind of like what title said, like if
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be number two, I don't love that. Gainwell,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: DK Metcalf. I like both those dudes. I mean game
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Ball's role is is very nice. I mean even getting
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: like downfield throws and everything. So I'm fine playing him.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: But yeah, if DK is gonna be fourth out of
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: that group, I think that's the spot i'd kind of
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: focus on. If he's gonna be the fourth highest own
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: on the slate, I like him quite a bit. Aaron
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Rodgers that basically like no ownership, very low ownership. I'd
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: like that. Jaylen Warren I think is a great call. Again,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: there's no way he gets steamed up. I mean it's
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: four to five percent somewhere in that range, and I
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: can't like we know Nico Collins, Stroud, game Ball, DK Metcalf,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: They're gonna get all gonna be probably at least ten percent.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: That's you know, when you add all that up based
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: on what we're showing thirty five, you know it's sixty percent.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: There's no way like Jalen Moren can get up there.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: So I think he's a really good play. And then
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: the last one, yeah, would be Dalton Schultz. I'd add
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: him to the mix. I mean, I could see like
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: six for seventy and a touchdown and that probably is
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: enough for him to be at least in consideration to
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: be the optimal captain. But yeah, I mean the two
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: that definitely stand out to me would be in terms
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: of lower owned options. Three, I guess I should say
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, Jalen Moren, Dalton Schultz. I think those three
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: all end up four or five six percent somewhere in
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: that range, and I think they're good, good leverage against
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: some of those higher own captains on the slate. I
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: guess what he marks throw him in there too, Like,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, I would be fine with it. I'd be
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: open to spreading it out more today than I typically do.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Anything based off of those two other additional people talked
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: about their title. Anything else changed for you or now you.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Want to add, I'll definitely be spreading it out.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Like yesterday, I think I played one trayveon maybe one
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Diggs captain, and then I think my other eighty to
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: eight teams had just Herbert or Drake May. I don't
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: see myself doing that at all today, So I don't
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: think it's the slate for that on a thirty eight
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: and a half total, and no one's favored to score,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: like eleven from Firemouth might be enough to get up top,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: like it we're crazy random one play boom, that's their captain.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: So I don't like playing a very condensed pool on
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: games like that that. I think one play can change everything.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the main thing for me just
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: where I'll go back to you for running backs in
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: a second, nless you want to add more quarterback. But
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: the main thing on like the roster construction standpoint, is
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of what you said earlier. The four to two,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: three three stuff led with mostly Houston because people have
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: them winning. That's always what makes it a little bit
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: more popular. But if people do go five ones or
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: anything like that, I think it's gonna be more likely
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: on the textan side based on them being the favorite
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: and having those pieces that just kind of fit perfect.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I think there's a ton of options for two four's,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: two's three threes led by Pittsburgh where you don't even
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: have to get that far off the board. You can
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: just change things up via roster construction. That's a different
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: story sort of lineup build, like we just talked about
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: like three threes with Pittsburgh up top four to two
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: with Pittsburgh favorite in the captain. But also I'm just
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: utilizing the good plays, leaving a little bit of money
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: on the table, Like I don't know if it's gonna
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: be that you have to find the dumpster dive piece.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: It's a playoff game, can happen, gonna mix it up
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: if you got a full portfolio. But I think if
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: you're playing like one lineup versus everybody else playing, you
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: know it's not a single entry, but you have one lineup,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I think you should be looking at some of that
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: stuff and then hoping that the Steelers come to play.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: That's a way you could just naturally get different, unless
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: you want to go to like a popular or sorry
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: an unpopular Texans captain. But again, make the whole lineup
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: work for you. But I think that's just a few
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: ways that you could do it tight. I'll go back
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: to you. Anything else you want to add with Rogers
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: or Stroud. If not, you could take us further into
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the running back conversation.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, nothing more to add.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: I if the ownership stays true Rogers way less owned
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: in the flax and the captain that it feels pretty
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: easy for me. Running backs also feels pretty easy because
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: the texanside it's woody marks and Nick Chubb and Nick
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Chubb is total dust. The dudes touched on props plus
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: seven fifty fourteen and a half rushing prop with the
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: real price tag of three thousand.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: So if it's plus seven to fifty, imagine like what
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: it really is. So then you definitely number that the
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: sports book is offering. So if it's seven seven and
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: a half to one to score, just think what actually
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: two to one? Maybe?
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Yes, really bad?
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're playing a bunch of teams, sure, Nick
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Chubb you can get like one or two. Otherwise he's
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: an awful click in my opinion. The other three, though,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I think are they're fine. I guess The reason I
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: say fine is there they have real prices eighty eight
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: hundred and nine K and eighty two hundred against. I mean,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: the Texans defense is elite everywhere, definitely tough on the ground.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: And Steelers defense, yeah, they haven't been I guess great.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: The Stone shows that they're really bad. I do think
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: they're better than the Stone shows. Also, getting teacher wat
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: back last week, I mean that's massive for him. But
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Jalen Warren projected the least out of Gainwell Woody marks
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: and he's the highest price, so just naturally he's going
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: to be the lowest owned, and I guess I'll lean
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: into that, but I mean it's tough. It's been like
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: a sixty three thirty seven split lately, gain Well leading,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: and he's just such a good pass catcher. Rogers has
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: so much faith in him. I don't have a strong
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: lean there. I'll let you guys decide, but the ownership
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: is definitely intriguing.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: On the Warren stuff, wop anding you got different at
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: the running back position.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think what title was kind of
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: leaning into. I agree, like you look at the Jalen
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Warren stuff and like the game theory perspective, he's more expensive,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: lower projection has to be lower ownership. But I kind
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: of just go back to the fact of that split
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: that he talked about and then going into the playoffs
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: where it absolute like must win, I think that could
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: even I think the split could potentially grow a little
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: bit more so. I think like if you are playing,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: if you're making a play on morn, you almost got
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: to hope that they're out there together, which I think
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: is possible. I think it definitely is possible that they're
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: out there together. They're using game Well in a lot
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: of different ways. I just worry, like I just I
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: just feel like Warren needs like the two touchdown game
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: which is in play, but I don't know, man, I
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: just game Well just feels so much better in this
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: spot and knowing Aaron Rodgers and how he just loves
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: his guys, like this seems like Aaron Rodgers guy. It
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: worries me a little bit, And then yeah, what do
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: you Marx is finally too they like titles out that
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: they have big price tags, all these guys. But you know,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: we're probably if the total holds true, we're gearing up
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: for like a lower scoring slate where you know, the
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: fantasy points on the optimal could be ten, eleven, twelve,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: thirteen might be good enough, So kind of also have
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: to keep that in mind when looking at the price
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: tags on these guys as well. And I guess it
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: still just leads me back to Gainwell, where you know,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: five catches for forty yards feels very fair, and that's
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: nine essentially free points, like nine three points right there
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: that he could have over these guys. So he's gonna
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: be there in terms of ownership obviously. When you look
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: at these guys, I just have a hard time. I
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: have a hard time looking away from game Well. I
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: just think he has so many free fantasy points tonight.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: What about this title? I don't have too much to
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: add to both you guys, but like, what about playing
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: both running backs from the Steelers?
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you're really looking at a low
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: scoring I wouldn't really want Rogers in that team because
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Rogers needs to throw touchdowns. But yeah, if you're not
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: doing Rodgers and you're saying it's all on the ground,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: you hope Warren gets the touchdown because game Weell can
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: get fifteen without a touchdown with how many catches he
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: can rack up so I have nothing wrong with that
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: at all.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I think it's more interesting too because like like Hoop
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: always says, like Warren Warren, Yeah, but Gainwell's wide receiver too.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: So are these numbers nine? This targets here, nine, four, seven, seven, seven,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: three six eight, And that goes back to week eleven.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: He's averaging like six to seven targets a game, and
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: he's converting almost all of them. I mean almost all
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: of those targets have converted into catches. I don't know, man,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: it's just free fantasy points. I mean, are these are
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: ninety percent conversions targets to catches? Like, just think he's
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: got to be the best best play when looking at
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: these other guys.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that call, so I'll stick with that.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I definitely think it's possible. I like the call out
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: of like maybe not putting Rogers in there at all,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: because you're just saying that's the case, and then you
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: could even go with one of them as the captain.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: It's like Warren captain running back, gain Well captain wide receiver.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: It's like putting a wide receiver too at captain, and
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: then you got Warren scores went on the ground. That
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: outdoes all those other guys or whatever else it might be,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: and then you could still fit in things after that.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I think the problem is people have money left over
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: at that point sometimes and then they start to think, well,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: if I do that, can I put Metcalf or should
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I put Rogers just to fill it out or whatever.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: It's like, you gotta just think about how the game
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: plays out. And that's why it's funny some nights too
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: before we go to wide receiver title and we talked
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: about it on Bandula Tam. We'll get to that later,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: but just noting it. Sometimes it is those lineups, right,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: It's like Warren and the Captain gain Well on the
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: flex whatever else. You're like, oh, there's no holes in
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: that lineup. It has like all the best guys. The
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: hole is the massive gap of salary they left on
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: the table because instead of just putting Rogers in where
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: they could fit him, they were like, I'm gonna put
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: in somebody else in the mid range and just say
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: it's not a Rogers lineup because of my story I'm
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: telling he doesn't need to be a character in this
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: book or in this movie or everyone. The analogy I'm
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: giving is like it's just the story is this, He's
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: not in it. Yeah, there's money left over, but it's
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: still a pretty good story, so I'm gonna stick with it.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: And I think that's what you have to remember, especially
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: you're handbuilding out there, is you don't just bump up
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: to Rogers because he's a quarterback. If your story tells
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: it's the running backs that get the job done through
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the pass game and on the ground. So interesting to
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: look at from that perspective. Take us into wide receiver,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: give us your thoughts there.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that's important. Though many people out there are handbuilding.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: I'm more mme stuff, so I let the correlation and
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: just my inputs and stuff dictate it. But if you're
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: playing Showdown, the game script should be like one of
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: the most important things. And definitely get out of the
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: habit of let me bump up money or me like
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: I'm leaving fourteen hundred now I only need to leave
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: three hundred or something like, force yourself to move up.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: That's that's the wrong game in NBA. Absolutely, an NFL
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: main slate, absolutely that NFL Showdowns a different beasts with
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: it being a dupe game, So definitely try and steer
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: away from that.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Receivers. It's tough.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: The reason it's tough is well, there's no Darnel Washington,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: which makes a little like these receivers probably on the
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: field a little more, but it's still Friar Muth and
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: John who are gonna play a ton receiving props and
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: like all these guys are awful. Four and a half
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: is the highest reception prop on the slate that's gain
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: well to be fair at minus one fifty four. Then
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Nico Schultz are the only two favor to have over
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: four and a half catches. And then the receiving prop
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: it's seventy and a half NCO fifty four and a
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: half DK. Then Schultz is the highest at forty two
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: and a half before it gets to thirty and a
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: half for Jaden Higgins at the next highest, Like you're
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: really guessing, and Jayden Higgins thirty and a half receiving prop,
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: he's seventy two hundred bucks. Now, with all that being said,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: he's thirteen percent in the flex. I actually think he's
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: a pretty good receiver. He has a rapport with CJ. Stroud.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: If he can outscore the running backs, you will get
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: a massive ownership discount. We're just talking about seventy two
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: hundred he saw nine K eighty eight hundred eighty two.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: If you think Higgins can outscore those running backs, that
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: is how you can do like a solo ship.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Or now back to that.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: What contest you're playing in should also determine how strong
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: a stances you're making, or like how off the board
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: you're getting. If there's eighty eight thousand people flagship. Of course,
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: if you're playing in a fifty man or a two
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: hundred person contest, I wouldn't play Higgins over the running
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: back just one B one. I think Higgins is my
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: DK is my favorite receiver. I still don't even love
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: it that much. If Nico's forty five percent in the
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: flex at ten point six K, I probably will come
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: in underweight there. Christian Kirk, Jaden Higgins. I like them
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: both a decent bit, but like then Xavier Hutchinson rotates in,
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: then Jalen Noel a little bit. So I'm gonna rank
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: these Houston guys at cost, I'm gonna go Higgins, Kirk,
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: then Nico, then Hutchinson. It's gross, though, and the other
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: side is not any more clear. DK Metcalf's clearly number one,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: But then they have Scantling, Kelvin Austin, and Feelin. I'm
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: definitely saying Scantling's my favorite. After DK talk about the
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: rapport with Rogers and a lot of his routes are
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: just downfield, So one catch for forty yards at a touchdown, boom,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: You'll take that, whereas Feeling's a dot feels like it's
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: like four yards. Kelvin Austin's kind of slowly but surely
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: been been removed when they're fully healthy. So yeah, receivers
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: are really tough. I like tight ends more and I
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: like running backs more at the end of the day, agreed.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: And here's the other thing, in case you didn't know
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: out there, you don't actually have to play any receivers
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: in your lineup. If you don't want to. You can
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: just build lineups without them. So lots of opportunity tonight
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: to get different people already talking about the tight ends
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: the kickers again, Like I said, I don't even have
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: to ask. I think people just naturally think this is
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: going to be lower scoring. Tell your story, like we
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: continue to say, it's been a theme all season. That's
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: what we always talk about, is the process, not who
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: to play, but how to play and realistically, if you've
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: got Sondy mentioned like a Fairburn captain in there, and
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: you put him in, that makes sure. I mean, he
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: gets a ton of points, like you said, but to me,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: that's in a lower scoring game because they're not getting
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: to the end zone. Obviously, all that's second nature are
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: kind of common sense. But my point is it's like
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: what you don't what you don't realize, is what I'm
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: trying to say is people put a Fairburn captain up
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: top at seventy two hundred, then they have all the
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: money for Stroud and Rogers and it's like it's not
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: some shootout if that's happening typically, So it's like when
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: you're looking at your lineup, people do it and then
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: you hear this all the time. AF nailed this kicker
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: captain at two percent. Nobody was on them, but the
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: lineup sucked after that, Yeah, because you played it poorly.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: And that's what you have to look at when you're
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: going in. So just make make note of that, think
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: about your whole lineup, tell the whole story all the
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: way through. Getting the captain right is only one part
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: of the battle. So you got to got to remember
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: that too, Hoop anything you want to add here at
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: wide receiver and any thoughts just on anything else there.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It's tough, but it's definitely ugly. I mean,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: you got Nico Collins, you have DK Metcalf, the two
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: obvious plays, and you know, whatever you want to do
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: with them, I think is fine. I mean, both these
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: guys that are very talented can nuke the slate. They
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: can be there in the flex, you know. I think
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: they're in a conversation of their own after that. A
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: couple of things that stand out. Jayden Higgins price tag
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: at seventy two is going to scare a lot of people.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Seventy two hundred. It's going to keep his ownership in Chuck,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: and I think that's something that we can exploit here
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: tonight because he's a big play guy. Kind of became
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: more active in the passing attack as the season went on,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: especially towards the end of the season in a game
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: that could potentially be low scoring. I mean the reason
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: we keep bringing that up because over under is relatively low.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: You know, two for seventy and a touchdown like could
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: be enough. So he definitely stands out to me at
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: that price tag, people are not gonna low projection high
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: price tag. That means ownership is going to be suppressed,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: and it's definitely what we're seeing after that. I think
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: it's a group of guys that you're not gonna feel
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: comfortable playing. And I say this a lot, and I
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: think it is true. Like a lot of these guys
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: are probably better suited in quarterback captain teams, you know,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: depending on which side you play for. On the Houston side,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: you know, the Stroud captain teams if you're on the
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh side, the Aaron Rodgers captain teams. The one I
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: don't like because the ownership is Christian Kirk at you know,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: he's looking to be the highest doned of these cheap
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: tight ends. Like what the hell has he done this
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: season to get this high ownership. He's done absolutely nothing.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I can answer that question for you. He has a
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: high he had one week twelve. It looks like he
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: had one good game out out of that. He hasn't
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: cracked seven Fantasy points. And I know he's had injuries
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: and shit like that. But if Christian Kirk is going
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: to be highly owned relative to these other cheap guys
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: like I'll play them all over Christian Kirk Hutchinson, MBS,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Calvin Austen, Noell. So that's a second point for me.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: And then yeah, I mean MBS Adam Feeling is a
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: tough click though, man, Like what is his upside like
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: two for twenty or something like four Fantasy points. I
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Feeling is definitely probably my least favorite of this group.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: I just don't see the upside. But I'd be fine
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: mixing in the rest. And I mean no all, I mean,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: if Noel's gonna go unowned, like he has that one
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: big play upside he can he can get there. So
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: that's just a few thoughts about these I guess really
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: bad wide receivers.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: He I was gonna say, tell us how bad MBS
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: the this is a game.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: We have a great clip of that, and I'm just, yeah,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not going down that. I'm not going down that path.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: I'll avoid that because he did have a good game.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: He had a good game to close out the season.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he's a favorite for Rogers. Like title said,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: he picks his favorites. I definitely agree with that. I
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: mean it's always been the case. You know, he knows
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: his free play guys, he knows, so to all that stuff,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: and I would say to this, like a couple of
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: comments I saw in the chat, like this is funny
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: but common one. Don't don't think you're with your own
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: crowd here, ores. This is very commons. People say, you know,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I don't see any points being scored, so it'll probably
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: be a shootout. That's the way my year has gone.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: You and many others, my friend, you know.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think it's easy to make the
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: case for a potential shootout here. I mean, and the
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: one thing is you look at the the Houston side
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: like they have these big play guys. I mean you
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: saw the the Higgins stuff no well obviously Nicocollins, and
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: then on on Pittsburgh side the emergence of uh, you know,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: gain well that connection and then DK coming back like
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: they have guys. I think you can definitely make the
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: case for points being scored here.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I agree, Like I said, definitely possible, and there's
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: ways to get there them just from a fantasy points perspective,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I think the total is one thing, but just you know,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: or like what people saw last night, how good the
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: defenses could be and whatever whatever. But I think like
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: the one thing that's just completely overrated is that like
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: high totals equal high fantasy points per like that on
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: a certain player, meaning like yesterday, I was just pulling up,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: but like the Eagles scored nineteen points as a team,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: that's what the Steelers could have put up tonight, DeVonta
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Smith eight for seventy did not get a touchdown, but
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: eight for seventy, it's gonna be a pretty good score here.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: You're gonna take that from anybody. I'm not saying gain
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Weell or someone like that is a Barkley, but they
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: like Gamewell plays like a Barkley for his own team
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: can get those opportunities that could happen. And or Warren
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: if it ends up being him, the guy twenty six
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: carries for one hundred and six yards, three catches for
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: twenty five. It's like those are still gonna add to
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: fantasy points that you need tonight on this slate. So
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: even if you only have a team, oh, they're not
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: gonna crack nineteen. Maybe not. Ramandre Stevenson last night was sixteen.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: What he has seventy five on the round, fifty five
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: through the air or vice versa, Like all those are
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: gonna add up, and you're gonna need somebody. So no
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: matter what you think about the actual score, somebody still
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: has to put up the fantasy points. We've seen games
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: where the Carolina Panthers put up fourteen points, but someone
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: like a tet had two of the touchdowns and the
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: racked up the catches and yards to go with it.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Massive score on a main slate, even so got to
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: keep that in mind as we're going throughout it. And
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: then last week and we'll go to tight end with
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: you title, but Matthew Banister says, Hutchinson gets open. It's
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: a snapcount issue. Agreed. But again, the thing about these
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: showdown slates and particularly ones like tonight, and if you're
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: playing in the lottery specifically, it's five hundred grand to first,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: one hundred to second, and as our guy Sheet says,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: you know, set of steak knives after that or whatever,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: it's like you're not getting very much after that. So
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: it's like you got to play to win, and what
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: you want is the snap count where the one snap
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: he's out there is like a seventy yard touchdown and
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: it's good night to everybody, but the lineups with him
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: and then it's like, Okay, great, now I'm in position.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: So however, many of your building make your decisions based
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: off of that, your your stomach for it, your riskers,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: reward and upside all that. But yeah, all that stuff
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: goes out the window. Matchups, all this shit, Like to me,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: it's just each lineup has to tell its own story.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: So title go back to you tight end. We talked
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: about the Pittsburgh side a little bit, but I'll let
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: you take it from there. And then Schultz of course,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: and others on the other side also.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean to be honest.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Outside, for the receivers, outside of Nico and DK, all
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: the snap counts are are like not safe. He plays
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: like forty five percent of snaps. That's said him Higgins sometimes,
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Kirk like the Steelers guys aren't really doing much better
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: when they're healthy. A lot of it has to do
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: because they're gonna run plenty of two tight end sets
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: with Pat Fryermuth and John new Smith. Like, give me
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: these tight ends, all of them over the receivers today
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Fryermuth looks like a strong play, but ownership will be there.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: But he's five k Bill. The Higgins team take out
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Higgins play friarmth. You just left two K very easily
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: without giving up anything. Schultz looks good to it at
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: sixty four hundred, second highest receiving prop, third highest on
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: the slate, second highest on his own team forty two
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: and a half, second best reception prop as well, third
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: best behind Gainwell and Nico, but four and a half
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: minus won twenty four on the over he's the second
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: favorite target for CJ and again, put in any of
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: the running backs drop the take Gainwell out, go to
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Dalton Shoals.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: He can out score them straight up. The other two
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: John new.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Smith, no, Darnel Washington's definitely a boost for him, and
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: he's an athletic tight end. He can catch the ball,
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: turn up field and get a touchdown. So there you go.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Four K definitely have interest. The last one's Kate Stover.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: He's six hundred and he will definitely be in my
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: pool because there's no one. You have to go all
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: the way to Xavier Hutchinson for eighteen hundred more at
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: twenty four hundred to get a projection with anyone greater
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: than one. Kate Stover will play roughly fifty percent of
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: snaps the Texans will play two tight ends as well
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: one touchdown for him. I mean, sign me up all
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: day only six hundred bucks. There's not really value on
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: this late again until twenty four hundred. I'm totally incause.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: I'm Kate Stover, who will be out there so yeah,
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: and the last guy. And I saw a couple of
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: people betting Connor Hayward anytime touchdown.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: I don't hate the look.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: I will say the sportsbooks are way ahead of it now,
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: but he's there to be their touch push guy. With
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: how old Rogers is. If you get fourth and short,
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: you will see Connor Hayward come out for a touch
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: push sixteen hundred bucks. If it's really that low scoring,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: is six enough six point one?
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: I don't love it personally because even if he gets
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: the best outcome, it still might not be enough.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: But you can tell yourself a story, man, I'm.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Telling a story about Kate Stover. He can heat up quick, buddy. Yeah,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: you know you got an NBA, you got a little
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: microwave action. You know that someone that can heat up quick.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: You got Kate Stover. Put them up three fifty degrees,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: maybe four hundred degrees for twenty minutes it's all we
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: need get a score out of him. He can make
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: some shit happen. But I do think just looking at it,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: who like, sometimes those are the plays that can just
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: make the rest of the line of work. And to
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: title's point, when you especially when us an optimizer and
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: you kind of like get somebody in there with the projection,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: it's it's kind of an opposite effect because when you
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: already have talked about how spread out captain will be,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: and you already have talked about how like it's kind
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: of a shit show at some of these other positions,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: but there is options, and people are just playing seven percent,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: ten percent, nineteen percent, like it's getting moved around. It's
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: not like when you have a cheap captain, like if
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: you built the cheapest cap, if you built a stover
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: captain lineup tonight, just using the same crazy example, yes,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: you'd end up on basically the exact same lineup as
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: everybody who does that, because that works. But when you
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: use them in the flex, there's a ton of different
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: ways that you can use them, and then you can
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: get so many other combinations around it. Just on captains alone,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: money left over filling it out from there. So I
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: do think it's actually pretty interesting to find If you
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: find someone like that, maybe your guy is Hayward at
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: sixteen hundred. Fine, but it's like that's the way to
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: do it. What are your thoughts on that and anything
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: else at the tight end position?
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, some really good points there. I mean you look
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: at these tight ends and yeah, you probably pretty quickly
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: want to write off cade Stover or Hayward. But I
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: think you know solid points by title where there's no
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: cheap guys so that that are projecting really for anything.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: So you got Stover at six hundred. And then the
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Connor Hayward thing makes a lot of sense. We've seen it,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: they've they've done it. He's their toush push guy. If
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: they get it to the one, he has a chance
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: of getting six Fantasy points and that definitely could be
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: enough on the slate. So those two plays make sense
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: if you're building a lot of teams, Like if you're handbuilding,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: you're probably not going here. This is you know, mmme
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: sort of stuff. The one I definitely like the least
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: by far is is John WU Smith. Like he's just
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: I get that he's on the field, but man, he
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: just doesn't do anything ever. I like Friarmouth and love
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz at the sixty four hundred dollars price tag.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Hey microwave is you guys have heard this?
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Have you heard?
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: You must have heard this title? Right, call someone a
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: microwave in the NBA. It's like he heats up quick.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: It's like, don't worry, you get it going in the
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: second quarter. He's a microwave like that, That's the thing.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Beg though, the only guy. This guy's the
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: biggest ex Hutch fan on the planet. And he's also
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: a Mason Tipton as well. Just going back to all
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: these sort of low level wide receivers that are obviously
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: phenomenal to even get in the NFL in the first place,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: we're just saying the ones that only the preseason lovers
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: know all about. So shout out to Beg always crushing
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: it for us. Over in the NBA streets, showdown streets
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: specifically where you know the late night crowd is always
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: kicking it and if you get a little bored and
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: football is not on after this last Monday game of
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: the season, right, So it's like things like that where
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: you can get involved pretty quickly. So love to see that.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking over at the micro wave.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: That was his nickname, Bennie Johnson, the microwave.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: There you go, Bennie Johnson can eat up quick. That's why.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was that was his official nickname. So
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: they weren't just throwing it like they you know, Bennie
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Johnson was the original microwave.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Did you ever hear someone reference using a microwave and
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: say just nuke it like throw it.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Into yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: That's an old thing too. I was just curious if
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: that was weird or not, but yeah, it's definitely.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Like my father in law, like you want, like anytime
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: we eat dinner or anything, he wants his ship just
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: fla like as hot as possible temperature wise. So like
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: we'll just finish cooking something. He'll get a plate of food,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: take it to the table, then bring it back to
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: the microwave to warm it up again. Like his shit
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: has to be so hot, like what are you doing,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Like we just finished cooking this shit, like literally just
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: finish cooking it. That food's back in the microwave.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: What he would eat half, well, it was so hot.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: I held take a couple of bites and oh this
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: isn't hot enough. He tas go back and pump that
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: uh right in the microwave and fire it right back.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Move the microwave right by the table. He sits there
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: and eats and then just sets it in it, pops
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: the back and hits thirty seconds like, what are you
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: doing next? Tray ready to roll?
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: No exaggeration, He'll he'll put that thing in there four
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: or five times per meal to keep it keep the
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: food super.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Hot, man, Philly, just I appreciate you guys saying that's
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: a real term, but mostly happy to see you here,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: my friend. I know yesterday was a rough day for
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: you and some some fans take it harder than others,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: and I appreciate that, but good to see you're still
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: kicking it with us, my man. So all right, Kickers
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: and d's whop all I need for you to do?
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Because the d's whatever we talk about that the be's needs,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: the d's needs the same things. But Kickers, Boswell and
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: fair baron, who you got who's your fighter tonight? You
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: can play both, but if you can only pick one,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: because these guys can kick some field goals.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, let me keep it simple for you. Is it?
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Is it? No? No, No, A step further beyond the
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: game line. Uh is it a primetime game? It is?
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Are the Steelers at home?
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Yes they are?
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Boswell's the answer, Boswell, Yes, five five one with Boswell.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: That's the only soldier you need tonight on the Steelers
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: side is mister mister Boswell. He always always gets the job.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: That we had those numbers too, I mean the numbers
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: kind of backed it up a little bit. Then I
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: probably did that game that game that means that means
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: he's due tonight. He's due tonight. He's gonna reward us.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: But uh, you know, all seriously, I say good with
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: both these guys. I mean, both good kids. Although the
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: one thing that does kind of I mean, this field
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: is not easy to kick in. I mean this is
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: one of the statistically one of the more difficult fields
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: for kickers. But Boswell is found to us. I will
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: say Boswell over Fairbarn officially, but I think both of
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: them play and then defenses probably get, you know, more
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: ownership tonight because of the low total, So I'd be
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: careful with that. We're showing twenty and nineteen. I think
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: that is I think it comes in higher than that,
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: and because the people are going to look at these
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: defenses and then compare it to some of those kick
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: wide receivers and sales just take the defenses. So I
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: think it is higher than what we're showing, probably mid twenties.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: So that's one thing to be cautious with when building teams.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: He said, Oh, I'm depressed, but gotta joke through the pain.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I did this so we know. Titles teasers are useless.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: They let us down on the weekend. The Philly loss
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: hurt us with titles teasers. Tonight we'll blame the captain,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: call on Hoop, the hosts, the abilities. I can just
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: do this stuff as we go along. But yes, we
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: do remember Tyler Loup. What a terrible, terrible way to
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: end the season.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: We didn't talk about that. I mean, this is just
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: this is potentially anyway. But it's like, if you're gonna
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: do that, they ran one more play, why not run
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: it up the middle and try to get like the fund.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: Why not throw it?
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: I Mean everyone's always thinking of the worst possible scenarios
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: of all time, but like, come on.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: That, Yeah, that one was my hindsight where I was
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: like opposite because at the end of the day, I
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: was like, it's a forty four yard or you got
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: a guy you literally drafted in the first round, and
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I went the second I went back to that, And
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: it's not because we lost. I was saying this after
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: we lost. My original thought was like, ah, whatever, but
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: then you were You're like, wait a minute, all that
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: time a timeout, Derrick Henry, throw it a play anything.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: They're not gonna give anything play, but they'll give up
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: a small and just do anything to give this guy
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: like five more seconds to chill, racing him through his
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: head and then let him go up and try it
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: from a little bit closer. And who knows what if
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: a guy slips and you end up getting like eight
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: yards or something, got like a decent play out of it,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: you still have a full time out. Just yeah, fire
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: that one into the sun.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: And they did. At the bare minimum you can count
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: on three to four yards per play, so they went
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: backwards too. You could have gone forward three And I
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: don't know, in my eyes, like an upper thirties field
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: goal feels much nicer than a mid forties field goal,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: like especially with the young kickers. I don't know. I
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: thought that was terrible.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: I mean it was against the Pats or yeah, the
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: Pats of two weeks before whatever, he knew it the leg,
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: the fifty six yard or something.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: He didn't even make it there.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: Like the dude clearly had some problems, Like I get
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: me a little closer than forty four.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: That was the same game that we had the running
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: back rotation for the Ravens. We heard that story now
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: of like game that was so bad. But you know what,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: you people could talk about the Harbaugh thing. It's funny enough.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Its like now everybody else is firing their coach just
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: to go get him. I think he's a great person.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a great coach somewhere else.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Sometimes the team just needs change. The Ravens could end
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: up with a worst coach right now, or they'll be
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: making fun of whoever the Ravens get and they'll be saying, ah,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: I should have kept Harball. You're gonna see how tough
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: things are. It's like, sometimes people just need to change.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: I think he was losing the locker room sounds like it.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I think that, you know, people just bitching and the fans,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: and I mean eventually it gets involved. He've been there
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: forever nothing says that you just stick around forever. And
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: even Tomlin talked about it like the other day, it's
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: like he could lose tonight and be gone too, Like
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: they could just end that change.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Change for the sake of change can be good in
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: in some scenarios, and I think that is one of
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: these scenarios.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, give me Harball Lafleur on the Packers any day.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: I'd love that. But if I'm a Ravens fan, Harbaugh
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: needs to go like this is totally agree. There's no
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: fans butts.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, ingrats to our man. Byron says, isn't Title about
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: to have a baby? I don't. I think it's gonna
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: be Title's wife. Actually, the only reason.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: I remember, I don't know. I don't know nowadays, I
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: gotta asked that question.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: That's huge.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you, all right, any what was the other thing
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say? Man? Oh, Ben Johnson, by the way,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: now they we're almost at the end of this. Do
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: you see his face when he walks up to him
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: like a little grimlin and just like quick and then
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: beams out And then today he doubled down. He's like nah,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: He's like, I hate that team. He's like, we're a rivalry,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: we have to be one. And then and the person
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: goes like, oh but why, He's like, we just have
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: to be simple. Like he just moves it along.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: I think, give me the flour or give me Ben
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: Johnson all the flour any day of the week, no
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: doubt about that.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Did you watch the four minute long where like Caleb's
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: like zoomed in on him and then he gets up
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: and does like all the hype. Did you watch that
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: locker room speech? No, man, incredible stuff. This guy has
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: the locker room just around his finger. It's perfect. That's
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: what you want. It's a it's a you know guy
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: coming in. It's really really good stuff. What about this
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: one results aside? I'm going through all my weekend thoughts
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: now it's kind of like a reflection at the end
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: for anyone wants to hang out. But we'll do some
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: fan duel shit in a minute probably, But what about
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: this Jordan Love or Caleb Williams people? I know people
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: jumped to like, well, pretty obvious, Caleb just won the game.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I know he did a jumpman pass. I get it.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: But what would you really want? Title? You get to
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: start a team next year? You can have Caleb Williams
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: or Jordan Love at quarterback, would you.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm debating Malik Willis and Jordan Love, so
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: it's not even close For me. I think, I truly
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: think Caleb might be like top seven though the dudes
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: at his running presence, with his arm talent, you just
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: can't teach that stuff. Now you can teach you how
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: about it make better decisions this and that. But I
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: I think Caleb's a stud in the sense of he
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: has every everything you want. Is Hoop always yells about golf.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: He can't move. Caleb can move with the best of
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: them his arm and Ben Johnson saw that. I mean
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: he was as the offensive coordinator for the Lions in
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: week like seventeen, he was complimenting Caleb Williams. He knew
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: exactly where he wanted to go.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: I hop if you have a different take, if you
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: had to pick one, do you have a different thoughts.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: Love played well? I will say Love had nothing to
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: do about that loss. Like Love played a great game.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: It's very clearly Caleb Williams for me too. I mean,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: I think the combination of him with Ben Johnson, I
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: mean we might be I was actually thinking about it
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: today randomly, like in two years we might be you know,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: looking back and like, man like that what they've done,
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Like that team could just be the best offense and
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: footbababe by next year. Who the hell knows. I mean, uh,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: it's a good combination. And man, his throws are his throws.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: They look effortless and they're just he's gonna be I
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: think he's gonna be very good. I think he might
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: just end up being one of the best within a
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: year or two.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Two years, we could be talking in two weeks about
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: true to be honest, Like I'm telling you, man, I
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: was gonna say that too, But like it's something special
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: about that. And obviously Ben Johnson, you know special for
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: people like that. You know he has the Dan Campbell
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: side from being over there as the team loving and
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: riding for their guy. He knows how to do it.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: He's clearly built for it that way. Because it's early.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: You can't just fake that stuff or come up with
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: speeches on the spot. You're either a leader or you're not,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: I think at that level. And that's why they bring
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: in and for him, he's a guy that obviously has
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: it already. You could see it, hear it from Caleb after.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: That's why I asked if anybody watched that stuff. I
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: love these like speeches and ship that if it's real,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: like you know, the I make fun of Jamis Sometimes
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: that's more comedy when Jamis Winston is doing it with
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: the team. But like Ben Johnson rallying a group of
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: men in the locker room and setting it up that way,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: like it was pretty solid stuff for four minutes and
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: just everybody's behind him. So I don't I think they're
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: gonna be doing some interesting stuff. And I don't know
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: about this RAMS team gotta go into Chicago on Sunday. Man,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Man, they gotta show me more.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: That was.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Pukas too good for sure, But I don't know if
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: he can just do it all right? Can he really
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: bring them all the way there? Stafford made the mistakes,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: like I don't know, we'll see, but yeah, it's gonna
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: it's it's making for some good games. Like we said
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: off the top, not knowing everything about it, hoop anything
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: you want to go with on the FanDuel stuff or
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: anything really stand out to you there that you see.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: I pulled it up. Nothing looked too out of the way.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: More than I think he's almost yeah, twenty one, he's
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: twenty one hundreds over to k more than gain Well
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: over there almost sixteen k.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: That is Catholic's pretty expensive on DK eleven around FanDuel.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, eleven six seems like a pretty steep price
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: tag for for DK metcalf where wide receivers are at
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: a disadvantage. Dalton Schultz at fifty eight hundred seems too
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: cheap fire most seventy two that's pretty expensive. Jayden Higgins
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: eighty four. That's expensive. Christian Kirk, I ship on him
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: at what twenty six hundred, He's seven k on FanDuel.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Oh my, Kelvin Austin is eighty two hundred on fanuels legit,
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah not real. Oh my, that's that's tough. I get
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: game theory and stuff, but that that is a that
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: is a very difficult click and maybe that's why he's
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: shown no ownership. Nick Chubb fifty four hundred. So again,
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, uh, some more aggressive pricing on fans duel
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: versus DK, but there's some unclickable prices like Christian Kirk
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: and Calvin Austa. I just I don't even know how
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: you do that.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's gonna be the way to get different
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: on fandel tonight though, is if you can find stuff
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: like that where it's the overpay. I don't know who
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: it was, whop a couple of weeks ago that you
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: had somebody that you said that would it was it
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: was interesting of interest to you, and it was like, yeah,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: you got to stay up for them. But if you
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: go there you end up getting someone completely different. I
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: think they came in at like twelve percent, had a
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: really nice game, and that's where on that site, specifically,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: over on FanDuel, you want to be paying up for
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: probability because it's when everybody doesn't want to do it.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: Pricing is a game you do have to go still
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: figure out the rest, but if you can make it work,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: and typically on FanDuel you can because they have sought
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: if they got higher pricing one place, that's usually softer
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: in another. There's a different roster construction now with the
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: similar setup to DraftKings, we can put a cheaper captain in.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: And the other thing about FanDuel title that works on
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: that note is it's a little bit different. Right if
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: you put a cheap captain up top on FanDuel, it
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: might be really low owned and not necessary be the
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: same if you're putting other higher priced, lower owned guys
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: in the middle versus on DraftKings. Once you put a
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: cheap captain up top and almost always let for the
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: big dupe's dupe trains, you get all the same stuff.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: On FanDuel. MVP, sorry, is much more condensed already, so
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: people aren't spacing it out as much as you would
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: think up top, So just doing a move like that
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  Speaker 1: to make the rest work can get you in a
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: different spot on that site. Anything else you want to
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: add from a FanDuel perspective, for sure, and.
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  Speaker 3: If there's any game to do it, you'd want a
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: game that we're talking about. I mean it could be
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: seventeen to ten when it's all said and done, Like
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: one touchdown can change anything. If friar moves the highest
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: scorer like you'll just need them. So I think in
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: lower scoring games, at least when you think it's going
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: to go that way, you can play more off the board. MVPs,
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: I got really nothing of just thoughts on defense. Go
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: collect set for DK obviously strong who mentioned they probably
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: come in a little higher on than projected, which I
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised, but there are priced close enough to
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: the kickers, and I do think people prefer the kickers,
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: and I love the kickers. Two of the most conservative
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: coaches in the NFL we got tonight in Demiko and Tomlin.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: If it's fourth and two at the thirty, when you
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: see a lot of these teams go forward or whatever,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: these guys are probably sending their field goal units because
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: they trust their defense. So yeah, I love both kickers
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: and defenses.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Any final thoughts outside of that from you, title or
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: anything else? Who want to add before we get out
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  Speaker 1: of here.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm I mean it's stinks. I got it.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: Cheer for Texans financially, but man, I'm excited to see
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: Rogers get out there. Two good defenses. Hey, it's playoff football.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: I'm pumped for this one.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I want to see. Actually, now, real quick, you just
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: made me think of that go back. I lost some
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: teams because obviously put them in for like whatever happens happens,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: But I definitely don't have any Pittsburgh. Yeah, I got
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: three through so far with Buffalo, La, La, New England
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: and Chicago. New England is an interesting one, but Chicago
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Houston would be nice too. A Chicago Pittsburgh would be
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: crazy if someone has that. But all right, hoop, any
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  Speaker 1: final thoughts from you. I know we'll be back tomorrow
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• 1:01:00
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• 1:01:04
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• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Matt Gannon the boots on the ground this season, that
• 1:01:11
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• 1:01:14
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  Speaker 1: hoop anything you want to add.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the addition obviously of Matt. I mean
• 1:01:45
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• 1:01:53
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• 1:02:16
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