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The $100 Birthday Gift That Made Mom Mad | The Gen Z Stare · The Treehouse Show Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Woo.
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  Speaker 2: We, uh, this, I already know. I have a good
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  Speaker 2: feeling about this show. Trey is going to let you know.
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  Speaker 2: Now you seem apprehensive. You're like, I don't really know.
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  Speaker 2: It weirds me out when you're excited. Uh, Uh, basically
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  Speaker 2: we're going to bag on kids here. Sweet. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: it's turning into, uh, one of our favorite pastimes. Um,
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  Speaker 2: so Trey, let's say you were invited to a one-year-old
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  Speaker 2: birthday party. Would that be enough to get you to
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  Speaker 2: start drinking again? First of all, and second of all,
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  Speaker 2: what are you bringing for a gift?
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  Speaker 1: I I've been to two one-year-old birthday parties in my
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  Speaker 1: life and uh both of them were I was friends
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  Speaker 1: with the fathers and both times they were just observers
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  Speaker 1: really because yeah they're like this has nothing the kids
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  Speaker 1: never get to remember this anything else but but but
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  Speaker 1: the mom and grandmoms and everything, it's a production. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they'll, they'll cherish these memories. No, they won't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember my first birthday party.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I, I have a few memories, I think starting
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  Speaker 1: about four years old.
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  Speaker 2: That's, uh, but that's, that's doing pretty good. Honestly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I, I, I mean, it's kind of a sad
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  Speaker 1: state of my birthday parties, but I think I remember
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  Speaker 1: two birthday parties in my life, really. In my under, well,
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  Speaker 1: especially under 18. You know, there was one birthday where
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  Speaker 1: my dad had these two chimpanzees, Lulu and Dina. And
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  Speaker 1: they came to my birthday party cause he was friends
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  Speaker 1: with the owner trainer. They were actually like on the
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  Speaker 1: tonight show and stuff. Uh, I even got a picture somewhere, but, uh,
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  Speaker 1: that's the guy.
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  Speaker 2: I have known you for like 25 years. How was
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  Speaker 2: this the first time I'm hearing about you having monkeys
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  Speaker 2: at a birthday party?
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  Speaker 1: I think I actually have a picture up on my
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  Speaker 1: fridge of this. Um, I thought, so this was a
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  Speaker 1: very interesting small world going back to the radio show
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  Speaker 1: days of, of the Russ Martin show. Uh, Mike later
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  Speaker 1: on became a hypnotist and Russ had actually had him
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  Speaker 1: on his show. Um, but yeah, Lulu and Dina were
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  Speaker 1: his two champion chimps. And, um, I said, yeah, he
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  Speaker 1: was on the tonight show with him and everything else.
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  Speaker 1: And he and my dad became friends. So, uh, I
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  Speaker 1: got to see them on multiple occasions. That was always fun.
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  Speaker 2: That is cool.
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  Speaker 1: Looking back, though, so mind you, this is late 70s.
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  Speaker 1: This is probably 1979, maybe my fifth birthday party. Having
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  Speaker 1: wild animals that could easily rip your head, hands, arms off,
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  Speaker 1: maybe not the best idea. I remember one time I
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  Speaker 1: actually did the whole chimp imitation thing. And Mike came
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  Speaker 1: on glue to me. He's like, don't you ever do that.
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  Speaker 1: They can kill you. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Like you didn't realize that you were speaking monkey, come
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  Speaker 2: at me, bro.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. What do you expect from a five-year-old?
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  Speaker 2: Good point. That's certainly not your fault.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But now you know, don't taunt the monkey.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't even know if I had
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  Speaker 1: a one-year birthday party.
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  Speaker 2: I did. I have photos of it. I hated it.
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  Speaker 2: I hated my first birthday, and I've hated just about
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  Speaker 2: every birthday since. It's not that I hate them, hate them.
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  Speaker 2: I just, I don't like the undue attention. I just,
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  Speaker 2: I loathe it. And even at one, when they brought
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  Speaker 2: out the cake, I was all about the cake. Don't
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  Speaker 2: get me wrong. But once they started singing happy birthday
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  Speaker 2: to me, I lost it. Screaming, crying, tantrum, none of it.
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  Speaker 2: Get rid of it. Don't want it.
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  Speaker 1: You remember this?
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  Speaker 2: No, they told it to me. I've seen the photos
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  Speaker 2: and I believe it because I feel the same way today.
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  Speaker 2: I remember I remember turning 19 and going out to
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  Speaker 2: eat with my family. And I read a restaurant in
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  Speaker 2: Arlington and I hear like the clapping from the restaurant
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  Speaker 2: staff coming around. I'm like, nope, nope, nope. And I
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  Speaker 2: bolted for the bathroom. And I thought I avoided it.
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  Speaker 2: I came back and they came back around and got
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  Speaker 2: me anyway, made me do some stupid napkin dance. I
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  Speaker 2: hated it. I absolutely hated it. I hated every second
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  Speaker 2: of it. I hate it to this day. And my
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  Speaker 2: family knows how much I hate it, but they still
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  Speaker 2: did it to me. Ditches. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I could, especially as, as you get older, I,
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  Speaker 1: my birthdays could come and go and I'd be okay
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  Speaker 1: with just being, it's, it's just.
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  Speaker 2: Another day, dude.
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  Speaker 1: Mind time is a construct. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: My next birthday is in like a week and I
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  Speaker 2: have completely forgotten that it's in about a week that
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  Speaker 2: it's coming up until Tara's like, Oh no, I haven't forgotten.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I have, you really don't need to do
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  Speaker 2: really don't need to do anything, but you know, she will.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll appreciate it. I do. Um, I just, I
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  Speaker 2: believe you get, thank you. Just, just get that away
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  Speaker 2: from me. Kind of a thing. Um, so if you
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  Speaker 2: were to go to a one-year-old birthday party, uh, any
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  Speaker 2: gift idea, No. What does a one-year-old really need?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure I could Google something and find it, but.
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  Speaker 2: They're probably still working through the baby registry from the
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  Speaker 2: baby shower type stuff. But you better get it figured out, Trey.
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  Speaker 2: If someone invites you to a one-year-old's birthday party, you
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  Speaker 2: better do a good gift, because parents these days, they'll
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  Speaker 2: let you know if you screw it up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I was lucky because with both of
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  Speaker 1: the ones I went to, the dads were like, don't
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  Speaker 1: worry about it. I think I. One of them, I
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  Speaker 1: know I was still drinking and I bought a bottle
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  Speaker 1: of booze.
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  Speaker 2: That is perfect on so many levels that that really
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  Speaker 2: does help from like the man to man absolution. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: don't worry about it. It's fine.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was a production. And there was like
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  Speaker 1: four or five guys standing off in the corner and
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  Speaker 1: the women were just... I mean, the house was decorated.
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  Speaker 1: It was a.
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  Speaker 1: It could have been a quinceanera.
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  Speaker 2: Nope, just a one-year-old's birthday. The reason why it's important
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  Speaker 2: to know is because if you don't have a good gift,
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  Speaker 2: then you might get called out by the party's host.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly what happened in this case. Am I overreacting
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  Speaker 2: about feeling insulted with my friend's response to my gift
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  Speaker 2: or her daughter? And the accompanying, like I said there, right?
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  Speaker 2: The accompanying, accompanying, whatever. You know what I mean? The
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  Speaker 2: photo of the text exchange that came with it. Hi,
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to thank you for attending first birthday party.
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  Speaker 2: I really appreciate you. And because of how long our
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  Speaker 2: friendship goes, I feel like I can comfortably address something
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  Speaker 2: that's been bothering me since last weekend. Oh, God. The response. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: of course. Wasn't going to miss it. Did I do
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  Speaker 2: or say something at the party that upset you? The
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  Speaker 2: response back. Well, not really. I was just really surprised
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  Speaker 2: at the gift that you gave cash at a kid's party.
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  Speaker 2: followed by the wincing face emoji. And then the lady's response,
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  Speaker 2: is cash not doable, LOL? And then mom's response, it's
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  Speaker 2: just so impersonal. I guess I expected her to actually
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  Speaker 2: open something from you and be excited about it. And
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  Speaker 2: then the response from the gift giver. Well, I asked
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  Speaker 2: you prior to the party what she likes to play
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  Speaker 2: with or if there was something you feel like she
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  Speaker 2: really needs. And you said not to worry about any
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  Speaker 2: toys or clothes because you have so many of that
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  Speaker 2: stuff at home still. And so then it kind of
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  Speaker 2: fades away to. And you have a bunch of that
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  Speaker 2: stuff already at home from your other two daughters. I
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  Speaker 2: figured I can't exactly show up empty handed to a
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  Speaker 2: birthday party, so. I thought I could at least give
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  Speaker 2: an envelope with some money in it and you could
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  Speaker 2: use it however you may need for her. You can
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  Speaker 2: spend it on her or put it towards savings. And
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  Speaker 2: then mom says, yeah, and I appreciate the gesture, but still,
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  Speaker 2: she's a one-year-old. Toys are life at this age, lol.
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  Speaker 2: She can't exactly open an envelope and understand what it
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  Speaker 2: is or what it's for. And then it just kind
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  Speaker 2: of keeps going from there.
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  Speaker 1: How much did she give?
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  Speaker 2: You said no toys and no clothes. This is the
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  Speaker 2: gift giver. You said no toys, no clothes. I listened
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  Speaker 2: and chose to give her $ 100 cash instead.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell the mom to piss off.
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  Speaker 2: If the kid doesn't want it, I'll take the hundy.
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  Speaker 2: You know, send it to 00802USVI. Dan, get to me.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, could she have gone to the bank and,
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  Speaker 1: you know, got to put it in a CD or something,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, but I mean, first of all, at one
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  Speaker 1: year old, can you even open gifts? Do you have
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  Speaker 1: that much dexterity?
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  Speaker 2: Not really. Like, I think the only, the best thing
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  Speaker 2: you're going to do is like stick it in a
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  Speaker 2: gift bag and let them maybe pull the tissue paper.
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  Speaker 2: And even then that might be a stretch.
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  Speaker 1: And again, not going to remember it. And I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: the kid has an abundance of toys. So yeah. Just
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  Speaker 1: say thank you and go put it in the savings account. Well, I,
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  Speaker 1: Use it for yourself. What are you bitching about? God.
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  Speaker 2: Now, granted, $ 100 for a one-year-old. Look, if I go
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  Speaker 2: to a birthday party for a one-year-old and I'm giving
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  Speaker 2: that kid $ 100, I'm not giving the kid $ 100. I'm
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  Speaker 2: giving it to mom or dad because that's who's going
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  Speaker 2: to take that $ 100 and do something with it. And honestly,
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  Speaker 2: that's probably the way it should be because what's a
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  Speaker 2: one-year-old going to do with $ 100? Nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So technically as a gift for a one-year-old.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. I understand that. There's so much, there's so much
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  Speaker 1: context here because if the giver has kids or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe then would have a better idea that I
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  Speaker 1: can understand, maybe think it was a little impersonal. if
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  Speaker 1: the givers like me and doesn't have kids and really
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have a clue, then just shut up. You got
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  Speaker 1: a hundred bucks. You can go, go buy him something,
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  Speaker 1: go buy, go buy yourself something nice. You've earned it,
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  Speaker 1: but bitching about it. I mean, it feels just so
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  Speaker 1: very Gen Z.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe. I mean, it's a one-year-old. So statistically speaking, probably
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  Speaker 2: in their twenties. So yeah, either uh older gen z
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  Speaker 2: or young millennial type situation on one hand i give
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  Speaker 2: i give some of these kids uh i.e you know
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  Speaker 2: just people younger than you and me credit for trying
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  Speaker 2: to address things with people and being like hey i
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  Speaker 2: disagree with you on this or you did this thing
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  Speaker 2: and i think that was wrong so let me tell
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  Speaker 2: let me bring it up to you right I feel
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  Speaker 2: like that was something that we weren't raised really to do.
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  Speaker 2: It was more like it would be impolite to bring
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  Speaker 2: it up. Um, but at the same time, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like it's another over correction. Like you're bringing up stuff
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  Speaker 2: that really doesn't need to be addressed. Like it's really
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  Speaker 2: not that if the biggest problem in your life right
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  Speaker 2: now is you don't like the hundred dollar cash gift
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  Speaker 2: that your friend gave to your one year old. consider
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  Speaker 2: yourself blessed. I.
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  Speaker 1: I'm quite sure that if you read Emily post, it
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  Speaker 1: would say to say, thank you. And shut up. It
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  Speaker 1: would be proper etiquette.
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  Speaker 2: Um, and man, I miss her.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And for those of you who don't know, Emily
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  Speaker 1: post was known as miss manners. Um, I, I still think,
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  Speaker 1: if there had been no gift and you addressed it, okay, maybe,
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  Speaker 1: but it sounds like the giver of the gift, ask
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  Speaker 1: the mom what she could buy. And the mom said,
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we've got plenty. So, you know, would they
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  Speaker 1: have been happier if it was a gift card to
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  Speaker 1: toys or us isn't around anymore. So I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what you would go.
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  Speaker 2: Just Amazon, just, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, would that have been better? Amazon gift card?
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  Speaker 1: Cash is still one of the most versatile things. You
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  Speaker 1: can do anything with it. And like I said, hell,
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  Speaker 1: use it for a babysitter. Treat yourself to a night out.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like you need to fucking unwind.
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  Speaker 2: Or you just need fucking. And $ 100, depending on the neighborhood,
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  Speaker 2: could get you that as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, that's the other thing. So this is one of
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  Speaker 2: my favorite things. This is one of my new favorite
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  Speaker 2: things to do. And that is taking people at their word.
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  Speaker 2: I don't mean like their word is their bond kind
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  Speaker 2: of thing, but like, I mean, in this type of scenario,
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  Speaker 2: if you invite me to the kid's birthday and I say,
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  Speaker 2: and I say, what is the kid like? Cause I
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  Speaker 2: want to get him or her a good gift. And
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  Speaker 2: you say, you know what? Don't worry about bringing you gifts.
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  Speaker 2: Because we have plenty. They have older brothers and sisters
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  Speaker 2: getting hand-me-downs. You just showing up is all we need.
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  Speaker 2: I'm now taking you at your word. I am not
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  Speaker 2: buying your snot-nosed kid a gift. You know why? Because
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  Speaker 2: you told me not to. I then welcome you saying,
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe you didn't bring a gift. You said
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  Speaker 2: I didn't need to, so I didn't. So if what
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to do now in my older age is
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  Speaker 2: hold people accountable to the things they say.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and that's fair. It's the same thing as
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  Speaker 1: if you're having a party and someone goes, what can
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  Speaker 1: I bring? And you go, oh, you're good. And then
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  Speaker 1: you're mad because they didn't bring something.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me what you want. Yeah. I'm tired of guessing.
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  Speaker 2: I am too old trying to figure out what people mean.
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  Speaker 2: I've spent too much of my adult life trying to
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  Speaker 2: translate people's thoughts into from the words they have used,
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  Speaker 2: and I've wasted so much of my time doing it,
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  Speaker 2: I now am actively trying not to. If you tell
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  Speaker 2: me I don't need to do something, then I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going to do it. If you tell me don't worry
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  Speaker 2: about something, I'm going to try not to worry about
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  Speaker 2: doing the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Even with your wife?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not perfect. This is a work in progress.
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  Speaker 2: You got to extend yourself some grace in there.
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  Speaker 2: inside the tree house. I'm Dan. He's Trey. Today is Wednesday,
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  Speaker 2: October 28th, 2026. Let's celebrate today with some celebrity birthdays.
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  Speaker 2: It's a pretty good day, Trey. I'm not going to lie. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: not that I would lie to you about birthdays anyway,
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  Speaker 2: but here we go. Uh, here we go. Amber Glenn
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  Speaker 2: is 27. He's an American figure skater, us national champion,
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  Speaker 2: And she's from North Texas. I think she's from Plano,
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  Speaker 2: if I remember right. Happy birthday to her. Nolan Gould
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  Speaker 2: is 28. I don't know if he's done anything else acting-wise,
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  Speaker 2: but he is best known as Luke Dunphy on Modern Family. So,
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  Speaker 2: Claire and Phil's boy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He's 28 now. So, now we're all feeling nice and old.
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  Speaker 1: Ugh.
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  Speaker 2: He... He's a good example of another, and this is
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  Speaker 2: what's difficult about being a cute kid. It's great if
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  Speaker 2: you have a cute kid, but when they get older,
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  Speaker 2: they may look weird. It's like 50-50, man. If you're
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  Speaker 2: a cute kid, it's 50-50 on whether or not you
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  Speaker 2: stay good looking. Something happens in puberty and somehow you
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  Speaker 2: look weird sometimes. Nathan Gould to me is one of those.
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  Speaker 2: Super cute kid, kind of awkward. looking as he came through,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: you know, uh, puberty, uh, Haley, Joel Osment is another one.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Super cute kid, little awkward as he got older, Macaulay Culkin,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: same thing.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't think he changed that much. The, the kid,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: that's the problem. he's a little gangly i can't figure
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: out the kid from young sheldon how that's gonna turn
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: out i.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Don't i'm not sure on that one either uh but
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: there are examples of you know quote-unquote cute kids growing
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: up and turning out to be just fine drew barrymore
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: drew barrymore is one leonardo dicaprio is one he was
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: a child star uh seth green was one seth green
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: was a child actor and he grew up looking kind
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: of normal. Maybe not the best example. Well, you get
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: what I mean. There are some examples of the cute
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: kids turning out okay. Sean Astin is fine. I mean,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: he's just a big guy now, but I mean, as
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: an adult, he grew into like a normal looking person.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: See what I mean? But it's 50-50. Like, if you're
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: an ugly kid, you're probably going to be an uglier.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: There's very few ugly ducklings out there.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, Robert Downey Jr. was in his teens, I
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: feel like, when he started, but Corey Feldman was awkward then,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: still awkward.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Will Wheaton. Yeah, Will Wheaton. Cute kid on Star Trek
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: The Next Generation. Awkward-looking adult.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I think he's kind of aged okay.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Maybe he just had like an awkward 30s.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: This is one you wouldn't think of because he's so
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: much older than us. Kurt Russell started out as a
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: very young child star, like in Disney movies and stuff,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: and totally fine.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: By the way, This is just complete sidetrack. I saw,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: you know how we talk about how old people were,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: like Wilford Brimley was, I think, 49 or 50 when
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: he did Cocoon. Yeah. Uncle Jesse from the Dukes of Hazzard.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. Oh, no.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Was 58 when he's... Bullshit.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: 58?
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Uh-huh. That show started, 58.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: He looked 88. Uh-huh. How is that man 58 years old?
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just saw that the other day.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, shit.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: You actually sounded a little bit like Jesse right then. Oh,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: my God.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Really? Denver something.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Denver Pyle?
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Is that it?
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: There's someone named Denver Pyle.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I think that, you know, that may be. That may
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: be his name.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I got to look this up. Usually it's you looking
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: up stuff on your phone on the fly, but I
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: got to do this one. Denver Pyle.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Uncle Jesse.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: That is him. My goodness. Born May 11, 1920.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Died 1997.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Denver Pyle.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: 58 when he, my God.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: When they started filming Dukes of Hazzard, yeah.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Wow. That's amazing.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Can I just say, though, as a moment of appreciation,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: good for us.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: In the span of really one generation, we look so
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: much better than the boomers.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we definitely... I mean... But again, that was a whole...
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: You know... When we were kids, adults retired at 55.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: They were me, mom, papa.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. You almost nailed my grandfather. So my papa,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: on my dad's side, retired at 55 from his job
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: doing whatever it was he did at Phillips Petroleum Company
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: back in the day. And his retirement was becoming a
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: cattle rancher. I mean, you talk about built different. The
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: man retired and then worked harder in retirement than he
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: did at whatever he did for Phillips Petroleum Company.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: But a lot of people didn't. A lot of people,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: they just retired and just sat there and got old.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that was my papaw. Just out there herding
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: and stuff. I can't even. This is the great irony.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: It's like, I want to retire so bad, and I
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: probably never will.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I would do.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I'll figure something out. I'll, I don't know what it'll be.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I just, I just want to be financially able to retire. I,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: then I can, then I can figure stuff. I'll find
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: a hobby.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: That's yeah. I want to, I want to have the
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: wherewithal to retire. I don't think I know that I
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: ever will, but just the security of knowing you could
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: would be nice. Yeah.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: That's part of the reason why we moved to an
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Island in the Caribbean is because I don't know if
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: we'll ever actually fully be able to financially retire because
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: So then let's just go live in a place while
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: we can walk around and enjoy it. Because I may
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: not ever be able to afford living here unless I'm
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: working my ass off. So I might as well work
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: my ass off and enjoy the view, right? Whose birthday
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: was it? Nolan Gould. Luke Dunphy on Modern Family took
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: us all the way to retirement and Denver Pyle. There
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: you go. Other birthdays today. This is a great name,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: but I don't think he's a very good quarterback. Stetson
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Bennett is 29. He led Georgia to back-to-back national championships.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I think he got drafted by somebody in the NFL,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: but I don't know if he's really done anything. I'm
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: not sure where he is currently.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I doubt he's even in the league, honestly.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Probably not.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: He is one of those guys that. In college, in
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: the system, he was he was good enough. I mean,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: because he played on those Georgia teams that were so
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: stacked with especially.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Defensive talent that.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I mean, he was basically the. Oh, Trent
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Dilfer of a college quarterback.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got I got two titles. OK. And, you know,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I had a Super Bowl winner. OK, Trent.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: And will be financially well off for the rest of
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: his life. He can open a car dealership in Athens,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: and he will be set for life because he will
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: be royalty.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Don't leave Georgia, Stetson. You live there forever now. That's
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: something that enough kids are not told when they go
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: to college on, let's say it's a scholarship situation, you're
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: going to play a sport. You may not make it
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: in the sport beyond college, So let's pretend that you
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: have a great college career, maybe even legendary college career,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: but you do nothing in the pros. That means you're
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: going to be kind of locked into the state and
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: or city in which you have your college career. Keep
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: that in mind. Mm-hmm. You may be stuck to that
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: state and that area for the rest of your life.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Choose wisely.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: And yes, I am absolutely talking to you, Aggie. I
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: don't hate you the way Trey does in his tea
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: sip and heart.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: But I just use that term.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: I know things, Trey. I know things. My parents were
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Baylor Bears.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Rare.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: And you know what? Some of the best advice my
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: dad ever gave me, of which he offered it rarely.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Because he didn't like to be the dad that was like,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: let me tell you what to do. He was more like,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: if you want my advice, I'll give it, but it's
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: up to you whether or not you take it. There's
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: only been two things really in my life that he
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: told me without me asking. And one of them was,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: don't go to Baylor. Because Waco.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially back in those days. Waco's, I mean, so
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: much better now than it was. But especially back in
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the 90s, yeah, Waco sucked.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, my dad was at Baylor in the early 80s. Yeah.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: In those days, the silos that are now famous by
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Chip and Joanna were actually silos. All right, other birthdays today.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Stetson Bennett, and happy birthday to you. Gwendolyn
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Christie is 48. She is Brienne of Tarth on Game
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: of Thrones. Trey, since you haven't really watched it, she's
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: the tall blonde female knight.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: She was also Captain. Phasma, the silver, the chrome stormtrooper
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: in the new Star Wars movies.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, I've got, I was watching Game of Thrones
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: and then I've gotten sidetracked and I need to go
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: back and finish, like, I think I'm on the second season.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I need to get back into it.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I will say, man, there are some great moments in
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: that show. Last season is not among them, really. Even
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: in the last season, there were a few good moments.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: The season before the final season has one of the
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: great all-time payoffs in TV history.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I'll get to it one day.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one of these days. Speaking of child stars growing up,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Joaquin Phoenix is 52. The whole Phoenix family. I mean,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: River would have been, but he obviously didn't make it
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: all the way to where Joaquin did age-wise, but Joaquin
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Phoenix started out as a child star. He was in
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: one of my favorite movies as a kid, Space Camp.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Pretty cool to think about how Joaquin Phoenix was in
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: one of my favorite movies as a kid, Space Camp,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: and in one of my favorite movies as an adult, Gladiator.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He's... interesting looking like he is unconventionally, I guess,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: unconventionally handsome. Yeah.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I think he's got the, the cleft palate scar. I
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: think that's, that's, and his face is just, he wasn't
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: the good looking Phoenix. Let's face it. And he knows it.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: That was river. I'm not saying the parents had a favorite,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: but I'm telling you, they knew which one had the
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: face for film. Yeah. And it may be, maybe that's
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: part of the reason Joaquin Phoenix is such a good
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: actor is like, He knows he wasn't the good-looking one,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: so he had to try all that much harder. Let's see. Oh,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Brad Paisley from Country Music is 54. Still married to... Oh,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I just brain farted on her name. The girl who
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: played the daughter in Father of the Bride.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Sarah... Kimberly Williams.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Kimberly Williams, thank you.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Yes. Good on him.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Trista Sutter, the first Bachelorette, is 54. And I believe
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: she's still married to Ryan, who was the firefighter that
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: won her heart all those many years ago. One of
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: the few actual lasting relationships from that show. Hell, even
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: the host is broken up with the show.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Well, he got caught up in the Me Too stuff.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: That was it. that was a bad, dumb decision on
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: the bachelor's part. And his wasn't even actually me too.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: It was race-based.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Well, I, I remember it was something, but it really
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: didn't feel like it was that bad.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: It was, it was not that bad. The producers and
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: ABC over-corrected on that one.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And that show, the only time I've ever really
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: watched the show was one season with you and Tara
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: back in 2011, something 2010. Yeah.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: And that was mostly because it was centered around drinks
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: and steak.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But even the highlights, everything was better with Chris Harrison.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: He's a great host.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I know Fox is trying to kind of do a
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Bachelor spinoff with him on their Fox Nation or whatever.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I doubt it will do much, but I think that
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: boat's come and gone.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I think they've already been sued, too, by Bachelor. Jeremy
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Davies is 57. He's an actor. He was Daniel Faraday
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: on Lost, Dickie Bennett on Justified, and Corporal Upham in
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Saving Private Ryan, the one that we all wanted to
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: murder because he wouldn't save the guy getting stabbed up
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: the stairs. That's one of the most gut-wrenching scenes in
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: a movie that I can ever remember. On the opposite side,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Julia Roberts is 59.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: One of my all-time favorites. Julia Roberts in the Pretty
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Woman era, all-time hot for me.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I'm with you there. For some reason, I used to
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: not think so, but yeah, you're right. I am honestly
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: trying to think of, has she ever been in a
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: bad movie? I'm sure she has, but I can't think
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: of one.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'd really have to think on that one.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Because even if the movie was bad, she was good
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: in it.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: There was a post like that I saw on Instagram yesterday,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: and this is so true. I can't remember who the
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: actor was that said it, but I think it was
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: actually Christopher Lee. Christopher Lee, who played Count Dooku in
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: the Star Wars prequels. Mm-hmm. He was also the white
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: bad wizard in the Lord of the Rings movies. Done
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: tons of stuff in his career, right? He was also
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: really into metal and basketball. Fascinating guy. Anyway, Christopher Lee
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: once said, all actors will be in a bad project.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: All actors will be in a bad movie. The difference
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: is not to be bad in it. And I thought
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: that was brilliant. And someone took his quote and applied
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: it to Raul Julia in the very first Street Fighter
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: movie that starred Jean-Claude Van Damme. And you know what?
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: It is so correct. Because Jean-Claude Van Damme's Street Fighter
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: movie was total trash, but Raul Julia as the bad
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: guy in it was phenomenal.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: He was underappreciated. He was a great actor, and he
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: went way too soon. Those Addams Family movies... He was excellent.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Those movies are not memorable without him in it. No.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: And Street Fighter isn't even a conversation we would have
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: if it wasn't for Raul Julio playing that role. That's
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: so good. From NFL Days, back when they actually played football,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Denver Broncos safety Steve Atwater is 60. Do you know
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: what his nickname was? I didn't know this. My prep
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: service here has this. He was supposedly nicknamed the Smiling Assassin.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: I do remember that mother brought it when he hit you.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's in the Ronnie Lott class of backs that
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: would take your head off.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: He was also one of those, like, I know that
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: you played, I know you played a lot of Super
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Tecmo Bowl games. If you know that you played with
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos, not only because you got Tony door
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: set running the ball on one side, but on defense,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: you had Steve Atwater flying around like a madman.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: And Jamie Gertz is 61.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Underrated hot. And now she's a billionaire.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: She took that hotness and parlay that into billionaire wife.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: And she is absolutely winning.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: But you read about it. It's not just billionaire wife.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Like she's been an active part of like, I think
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: it was at her prodding that they bought the Atlanta
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Hawks and, uh, like evidently she's super smart and, and yeah,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: has really done very well for herself.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: It's actually, it's a, it's a great example of you can,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: you can be a successful man and then you get
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: you a smart, amazing woman and she will, she will
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: send both of you into the stratosphere.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: She's the one that famously said in Twister, we've got cows.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: And she was also in Lost Boys. Jamie Girtz, 61.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Daphne Zuniga is 64. Remember who she is?
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Melrose Place. And... She.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Is... She is reprising her role as Princess Vespa in
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: the most anticipated film of 2027, Spaceballs 2. She was
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Princess Vespa in Spaceballs.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Also underrated hot.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Very. Speaking of hot, Lauren Hawley, 63.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Smoking hot at the time.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: But....
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Bad work.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Man. Like Picket Fences, Dumb and Dumber. Today?
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: I forget. Have you ever seen the movie Beautiful Girls?
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I have.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: You should. It's late 90s. Like Timothy Hutton, her, a
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: young Natalie Portman.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a phenomenal cast. Michael Rapaport. It's just,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: it's a great, great movie.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Add that to my list. It sounds like one I
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: should have seen. Surprised I haven't.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Bill Gates is 71. He's done well for himself.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. done okay.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: It is interesting, though, to think about how it's like
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: to be a kid and think one of these days
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be the richest man in the world
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: and I'm going to come for you, the mosquitoes. Technically malaria,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: but still.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's He's gotten a bad rap over
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: the years. But one of the most interesting things, and
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I did not know this because everyone thinks he was
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: just this child prodigy who, you know, bought MS-DOS from
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: IBM for nothing. But it turns out his mom worked
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: for IBM. And that's how he knew about it. And
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: how he got it.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: It wasn't all because he was just a genius.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Right. sometimes fortune smiles upon the lucky, but you got
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: to give him credit on being able to take advantage
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: of the opportunity in front of him.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then he stole from Steve jobs. Surround yourself
• 40:38
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  Speaker 2: all the birthdays we don't need to go through the
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  Speaker 2: rest of them we've already got plenty of content out
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  Speaker 2: of the birthdays for today uh there are two things
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  Speaker 2: that we need to discuss before we get out of
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  Speaker 2: here uh one of those is the gen z stare
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: has this come back trey because i heard about it
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  Speaker 2: earlier this year And now I'm all of a sudden
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: seeing more stuff about it. Why do we know?
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  Speaker 1: Uh, I've just, it's one of their little idiosyncrasies that I,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I think it's just cause they don't know how to communicate, but, uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's certainly a thing having worked with them.
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  Speaker 2: I have some experience with Gen Z, uh, like, Most
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  Speaker 2: of my experience with Gen Z is tenants that live
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  Speaker 2: in my house, which can be interesting to say the least.
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  Speaker 2: But I've never worked, I don't think, with anyone that
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  Speaker 2: is Gen Z, at least not closely. So I've never,
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  Speaker 2: as far as I know, I have not experienced the
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Gen Z stare. But even like yesterday, I saw an article,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: just a simple headline, and I pulled it up. how
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  Speaker 2: to respond to the Gen Z stare without looking like
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: a total boomer. The Gen Z stare, everyone knows what
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: that is, right? Sort of like the blank expressionless look
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  Speaker 2: on the face. Also known as the look of, if
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: we looked at our parents that way, they would have
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: hit us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd be picking your teeth up. Mm-hmm. So.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I've really been on the receiving end
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  Speaker 2: of a Gen Z stare because if I did, I
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: feel like they might also be picking their teeth up.
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  Speaker 2: I guess like anything, it's all in how you use it.
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  Speaker 2: Like if you just look expressionless and lost, I might
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  Speaker 2: ask if you need help. But if you're doing it
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  Speaker 2: in response to something, when I'm trying to engage with you,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to infuriate me. And maybe that's why they
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: do it. I don't even know why they do.
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  Speaker 1: I think sometimes they do it to try to infuriate.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, I've seen a lot when there's kind
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: of a little bit of conflict where they don't, their
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: communication skills just simply are not as good. They haven't
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  Speaker 1: had to communicate.
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  Speaker 2: I guess what I'm thinking is, is it an ignorance
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  Speaker 2: or malice situation? Or does it just depend on the person?
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  Speaker 1: It depends on the situation, I think, more than anything else. Ugh.
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  Speaker 2: An empty, wide-awake stare that younger individuals use at times
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  Speaker 2: when it is necessary to respond with words has gone viral,
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  Speaker 2: and it's known as the Gen Z stare. It's given
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  Speaker 2: rise to debates about etiquette boundaries and emotional labor. That's
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: a Gen Z term right there, emotional labor. I'm doing
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  Speaker 2: all the heavy lifting. According to Merriam-Webster, the informal slang
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  Speaker 2: expression means a blank look given by members of Generation
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  Speaker 2: Z in circumstances in which an oral response would normally
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  Speaker 2: be expected. The expression has quickly gained popularity online and
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: is commonly used in conversations about workplace or customer service culture.
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  Speaker 2: The stare essentially is a rejection of performative happiness. All right,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: that sentence actually I appreciate. According to experts, younger employees
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  Speaker 2: tend to refuse to pretend they feel comfortable when it
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  Speaker 2: is not the case, especially in jobs with a low
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: salary or insecurities. You know, this is one of those
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: times where I give credit to Gen Z. It's like, man,
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  Speaker 2: if you hate the job and the job hates you,
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  Speaker 2: don't pretend to love it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're just not going to love your job
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  Speaker 1: all the time.
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  Speaker 2: No, you're absolutely not. So you need to come to
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  Speaker 2: terms with it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And you're not going to come to terms with it
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  Speaker 2: by making a blank face at it. No. In addition,
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  Speaker 2: psychologists warn against transforming a popular buzzword into a personality trait.
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  Speaker 2: They stare, they claim. Or the stare, they claim, might
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: indicate confusion, anxiety, processing, discomfort, or even just another way
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: of looking at an appropriate reaction. Pandemics rob many young
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: adults of valuable social experience through face-to-face interaction during an
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: important period of their development. So psychologists are basically saying,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: don't hit them when they do it. Because I need
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: that slowdown. They may just be processing something. They may
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: not be trying to say anything.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, they don't It's a generation that everything they've,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: everything they've done has been digital. Like they, they meet
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: each other. They date via apps. They don't date via,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: you know, meeting someone. They go out, but they don't
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: meet people.
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  Speaker 2: It is such a weird thing because let's just be honest.
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  Speaker 2: We are among like I realize our grandparents were the
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: quote unquote greatest generation, you know, World War Two and such.
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  Speaker 2: But we're the best generation because we're the most adaptable.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: We've straddled the line.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: We absolutely have. I mean, we we started with everything
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: analog and then adapted to everything digital. So we run
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: the spectrum. We know what it is. We have perspective
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  Speaker 2: unlike any other generation before or probably will ever have.
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  Speaker 1: We had to teach our parents how to use the
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  Speaker 1: fucking internet.
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  Speaker 2: And that built character.
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  Speaker 1: And scars.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Those of us that survived it. Some didn't. R.I.P. R.I.P. Kevin.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you find a boomer with an AOL account.
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  Speaker 1: There's a kid. There's a Gen Z or Gen X guy.
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  Speaker 1: A kid somewhere just gave up.
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  Speaker 2: In therapy. Trying to process it all.
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  Speaker 1: But it is.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it really is one of the great things.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I think, I don't know, because I'm
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: not a parent. I'm not an expert in child development.
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  Speaker 2: I'll ask my wife.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: She is.
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  Speaker 2: I think it would make sense in the digital age
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  Speaker 2: to raise, this is what we should have done. And
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know why we didn't do this. Because Gen
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Z is our fault, right? Because Gen X is having
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: the Gen Z kids. We screwed them up. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why. To me, it seems so simple.
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  Speaker 1: I do.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Raise them the same way you were raised.
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  Speaker 1: That's the problem.
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  Speaker 2: Is that we haven't. I don't think. No, I disagree
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  Speaker 2: with you.
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  Speaker 1: I think absolutely. Gen X raised Gen Z like they
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: were raised, which is very hands-off. The problem is they
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: had the internet. And social media, we didn't. And I
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: think that's where everything went haywire. You know what?
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  Speaker 2: I think this is one of those times where we're
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: both actually right. We're just looking at it from two
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: different ways. So you're right in that it's because we
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: were hands off the way our parents were hands off.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: It's just that these kids didn't want to go outside
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: and do anything because they had so much stuff on
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: the Internet to keep them busy. Right. The way I
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: see it, it should have been is. Don't give them
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  Speaker 2: the Internet so early. raised like how we were. It's like,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: start with a book, start with pencil and paper, but
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: your first tablet shouldn't be an iPad, but.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: You know, and you know, this, if our parents had
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: the ability to shut us up by putting a tablet
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  Speaker 1: in front of us, we would have all been the
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: exact same way. I, I think you are correct.
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  Speaker 2: I also know that my mom would have hit me
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: with one. Well, yeah, that, and it would have blamed
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  Speaker 2: me for it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: And it would have been my fault.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Uh, But yeah, I think it should have been. I'm
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: hoping maybe Gen Z, Gen Alpha, maybe they'll do it
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: with their kids. Raise them on analog first, then... shift
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: them over into the digital stuff so they have a better,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: not just perspective, but appreciation for things.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the number of kids that
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: have iPhones under 15. I think millennials are probably doing
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: a better job of restricting screen time.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I really hope Gen Z does the overcorrection and
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: goes back to, I hope Gen Z is kind of
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: like our boomer parents where it's like, put that down,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: go outside. Don't come home till the streetlight comes on.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see you again until lunch.
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I think they'll screw their kids up like we
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: screwed them up and our parents screwed us up.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: I know, you're right. They're going to have kids and
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: it's going to be like just Instead of putting a
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: laptop in front of them, they're just going to plug
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: the kid into a socket.
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  Speaker 1: And that's, you know, we won't be here to witness it.
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  Speaker 1: It's okay.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: And you know what? Thank God. Yeah, you know, that's...
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Because otherwise it's going to be you and me sitting
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: around going like, you know, in our days, we licked
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: the light sockets. We didn't get plugged into them. Yeah.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, we'll be the old man going, yeah,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: play on our lawn. Oh, there's no one there. They're
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: all inside it.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: I know it's like I'm at one of the, one
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: of these days I'm going to be of the age
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: where I want to tell a kid, get off my lawn,
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: but I won't be able to because they're all inside. Yeah.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: They're all, they're all have headsets on and on a
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: virtual lawn. That's what we'll have to do. We'll have
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: to have headsets and, and, you know, be the virtual
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: old men.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Get off my virtual lawn.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, that's funny and so sad all at
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: the same time. It's like that meme with Clint Eastwood
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: in Gran Torino and he's like, that whole face. That's
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: going to be us except just with a VR headset.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I feel like virtually we'll be Waldorf
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: and Statler just sitting there just sniping at people. Get
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: off my lawn. You suck.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: All right, now I'm kind of looking forward to it.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to our Statler and Waldorf era. Oh, man.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: You stick around the treehouse long enough, you'll see it.
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