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Bonus Episode: Forces of Nature, Jealousy, and Grief Will Out Itself · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a
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Speaker 1: little thing we'd like to call the after party. This
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Speaker 1: Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt.
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Speaker 1: On this episode, we are talking about Marilyn Monroe, the
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Speaker 1: sources that we use for our Marilyn Monroe episode, which
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Speaker 1: helped us on cover a wild story involving none other
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Speaker 1: than Frank Sinatra and Joe d That's Joe DiMaggio. That
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Speaker 1: story did not make the final cut of our full episode.
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Speaker 1: And of course we're also talking to you via voicemail
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Speaker 1: and text, and as always, we have a whole lot
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Speaker 1: of rosa. All right, disc goes, let's get into it.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 1: I'm a Prince fan, but I never considered myself like
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Speaker 1: a super fan or anything like that. I didn't have
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Speaker 1: posters of prints up on my wall growing up like
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Speaker 1: I did of Madonna my dorm room. But that's another story.
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Speaker 1: You know. I wasn't particularly interested in Purple Rain. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I saw it, I don't even know that I had
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Speaker 1: an opinion about it really when I was a kid,
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Speaker 1: you know, I didn't own all of Prince's records. You know,
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Speaker 1: even as a young kid who was in a punk
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Speaker 1: rock and hardcore I think it was kind of subversive,
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Speaker 1: at least in my little niche scene to be into Prince.
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Speaker 1: Not that I didn't like Prince. I did like I
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Speaker 1: liked him, but I wasn't. My point is, I wasn't obsessed.
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Speaker 1: I didn't own all of his records. I didn't get
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Speaker 1: particularly excited when a Prince video came on MTV because
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Speaker 1: back then Prince was everywhere. It wasn't a rare occasion
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Speaker 1: to see a Prince video or to hear a Prince
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Speaker 1: song on the radio. He was Prince. He was like water,
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Speaker 1: essential and everywhere necessary. Sure, but he kind of took
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Speaker 1: him for granted then. When he died on April twenty first,
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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. I felt fucked up over his death. Rock
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Speaker 1: just too strong of a word. I wrote down rocked
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Speaker 1: in the notes I was taken to sketch out what
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Speaker 1: I was going to say here. I wasn't rocked by it,
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Speaker 1: but it was a strange feeling. I was definitely affected
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Speaker 1: by it because, like I said, it was strange because
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Speaker 1: I wasn't a mega Prince fan or anything like that.
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Speaker 1: I remember remember exactly where I was, which is also
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Speaker 1: saying something you know you tend to say, like yo,
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Speaker 1: people remember where they were when John F. Kennedy died,
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Speaker 1: or people remember where they were when nine to eleven happened.
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Speaker 1: I remember where I was when Prince died, which is
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Speaker 1: kind of bizarre.
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Speaker 3: I was.
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Speaker 1: I was on a treadmill at a downtown Boston Equinox
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Speaker 1: and they had CNN up there on the screen and
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Speaker 1: I was watching it. And I can't remember if it
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Speaker 1: was like came over on the crawl or a talking
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Speaker 1: head came on and told us about it. But pretty
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Speaker 1: soon after that news, I remember texting with my wife
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Speaker 1: and my mother in law about it. We were all sad,
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Speaker 1: and then, still on the treadmill, I put prints on
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Speaker 1: Spotify and I actually cried. Okay, I'm not saying that
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Speaker 1: to make myself seem more more relatable or anything like that.
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Speaker 1: I'm not a crier. Sure, I'm probably more sentimental than
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Speaker 1: I like to admit, but I'm not the type of
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Speaker 1: guy who breaks down easily sappy commercials on television, Father's
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Speaker 1: Day cards, rom coms, on planes with weird air pressure.
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Speaker 1: I hold together pretty good. So why the hell was
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Speaker 1: I crying because some pop star I didn't know kicked off?
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Speaker 1: And to be honest, I was barely crying. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I probably shed a tear to when doves cry on
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Speaker 1: Spotify or something when I was sweating it up on
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Speaker 1: the treadmill. But still it was enough to notice, which
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Speaker 1: is my point. When Marilyn Monroe died on August fourth,
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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two, everybody noticed, and no doubt many cried.
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Speaker 1: Those who knew her, her exes Joe DiMaggio and Arthur
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Speaker 1: Miller for sure, her friends Peter Lawford, Dean Martin, perhaps
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Speaker 1: even the president at the time, John F. Kennedy and
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Speaker 1: his new Jersey Frank Sinatra. But make no mistake, America
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Speaker 1: cried as well when Marilyn Monroe died Marilyn Monroe's death
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Speaker 1: inspired not only the expected reaction from fans, everything from
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Speaker 1: earnest tributes to the Macobs celebrity death gockers, but it
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Speaker 1: inspired something else too, some strange mix of endless grief
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Speaker 1: and tribute. Marilyn Monroe's death inspired everyone from the grieving
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Speaker 1: public at large to Andy Warhol to Truman Capote, to
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Speaker 1: Elton John, to Madonna to Glenn Danzig, the countless culture
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Speaker 1: vultures and students, documentarians, and global celebrants of pop culture history.
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Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe is, without a doubt, bigger after death than
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Speaker 1: she was during life. And I think it's because the
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Speaker 1: impact she made when she was alive was so huge,
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Speaker 1: so significant, that we refuse to let her die. From
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Speaker 1: Andy Warhol's portrait to Arthur Miller's essays, to Joe DiMaggio's
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Speaker 1: public tears, to Madonna's Material Girl, to Glenn Danzig's demanding
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Speaker 1: question to Elton John's tribute to modern day biopicks on Netflix,
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Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe is here to stay. We refuse to let
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Speaker 1: her go, and again, it's because of what she did
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Speaker 1: when she was here, the films she made, the image
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Speaker 1: that she singed into our consciousness the path she blazed,
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Speaker 1: and make no bones about it. She was a feminist
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Speaker 1: trailblazer before the definition even existed. Marilyn Monroe's life, everything
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Speaker 1: about it, especially her death, as extraordinary as it was,
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Speaker 1: we see a part of us in it, or we
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Speaker 1: project some part of us onto it, onto her. I
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Speaker 1: can't put my finger on it other than to say
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Speaker 1: that we refuse to let her die. And I get
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Speaker 1: into what made Marilyn so extraordinary in this week's episode
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Speaker 1: that we did on Marilyn Monroe, and in part two
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Speaker 1: that's coming next week. I get fully into her death
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Speaker 1: and the conspiracy theories surrounding her cause of death. But
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Speaker 1: back to Prince. Prince's death affected me not because of Prince,
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Speaker 1: but because I was still grieving the death of my
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Speaker 1: sister from a few years earlier. I was projecting my
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Speaker 1: loss onto the loss of a figure that I didn't know,
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Speaker 1: because suddenly that was an option, an emotional convenience that
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Speaker 1: my subconscious took advantage of. Grief will out itself one
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Speaker 1: way or another. There's no burying it. But I wonder,
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Speaker 1: as a culture, what did we project onto Marilyn Monroe
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Speaker 1: after she died, and what do we collectively continue to
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Speaker 1: project onto her? And why do we refuse to let
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Speaker 1: her die? They say that you die twice, once when
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Speaker 1: you actually kick off, when your death happens, and again
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Speaker 1: when the last person on earth who remembers you dies,
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Speaker 1: and then your memory is completely gone, and by that measure,
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Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe will live forever immortal. Which celebrity passings though?
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Speaker 1: Which ones hit you the hardest? And why can you
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Speaker 1: put your finger on it? I mean, you don't have
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Speaker 1: to tell me why, you don't have to overshare, but
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Speaker 1: I'm interested. I'm interested to know if you can connect
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Speaker 1: the psychological thoughts between why, I don't know, Tom Petty
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Speaker 1: or David Bowie or somebody you've never met in your life,
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Speaker 1: why their death has affected you so much? Who was it?
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Speaker 1: Was it Marilyn Monroe? Was it Prince? Was it Tom Petty?
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Speaker 2: Was it?
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Speaker 1: Elvis Presley, Steve Albini, Kurkobe and Roger Corbyn? Let me
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Speaker 1: know six one seven nine oh six six sixty three
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Speaker 1: eight to let me know via voicemail and text. I
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Speaker 1: want to know which celebrity deaths affected you the most,
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Speaker 1: and if you feel like sharing, go ahead and tell
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Speaker 1: me why. I'll be back in a flash. All right, Sources, sources, sources.
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Speaker 1: You guys want to know about the sources because you're
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Speaker 1: you're massive readers, you're massive consumers of culture, just as
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Speaker 1: I am, and you may perhaps want to go a
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Speaker 1: little deeper than we did on your own time in
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Speaker 1: learning about these episodes subjects. So here we go. Let's
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Speaker 1: talk for a minute about the sources that we use
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Speaker 1: for this week's episode on Marilyn Monroe. Now, there are
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Speaker 1: a lot, as you can imagine, a ton a ton
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Speaker 1: of books out there on Marilyn Monroe, but I read
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Speaker 1: two of them for my research. Two biographies that is.
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Speaker 1: The first is Marilyn Monroe, a biography by Donald Spotto,
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Speaker 1: which is just fucking great, just an incredible biography. It
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Speaker 1: was somewhat controversial, and it was one of these things
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Speaker 1: where I can't remember when the book was published, but
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Speaker 1: there was enough time between when it was published and
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Speaker 1: when I read it that when I was figuring out
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Speaker 1: if I was going to use this book as a
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Speaker 1: bit of research, I went and I looked at what
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Speaker 1: some of the more quote unquote controversial elements of the
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Speaker 1: book were, and to be honest, I think they had
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Speaker 1: to do with her death. I can't remember right off
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Speaker 1: the top of my head. And then I did a
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Speaker 1: little research on my own to see, you know, you know,
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Speaker 1: were they actually controversial? Were they were these really sort
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Speaker 1: of like you know, misinformation or whatever your zeitgeisty term
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Speaker 1: is for inconvenient truths. I went and I looked it up,
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Speaker 1: and a lot of it was just bullshit. And it
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Speaker 1: was clear to me that what he was, what the
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Speaker 1: author was being called out for was disingenuous and just
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Speaker 1: kind of click baity, and I figured this was a
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Speaker 1: book that many people had gotten behind and it was
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Speaker 1: one that was worth reading, and boy, oh boy, it was.
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Speaker 1: I right. The second was Marilyn Monroe, a biography by
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Speaker 1: Barbara Lemming. That was another one that helped, Like, you know,
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Speaker 1: I like we've mentioned this before. I like getting a
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Speaker 1: couple of different perspectives on the subject, not just reading
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Speaker 1: one biography. Then we're just kind of we're just boxing
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Speaker 1: ourselves into someone else's point of view. And when you
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Speaker 1: want to paint a full picture and you want to
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Speaker 1: create your old editorial point of view, you need multiple sources.
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Speaker 1: So those are the two on Maryland. The two sort
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Speaker 1: of conventional biographies that I read the other. The other
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Speaker 1: thing that the other book that I read was more
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Speaker 1: of a quote unquote conversational portrait to chapter in Truman
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Speaker 1: Capote's book Music for Chameleons that's taken from a conversation
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Speaker 1: that Truman had with his friend Marilyn Monroe, which was
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Speaker 1: super helpful to help us build the character of Marilyn.
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Speaker 1: To get Truman Capoti a friend of hers point of view.
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Speaker 1: He nails Marilyn's voice, he nails her phrasing, and like
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Speaker 1: unlike any other writer that I've ever come across, there
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Speaker 1: any other sort of you know, semi fictional depiction of
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Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe. And I just love, as you guys know,
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Speaker 1: I love Truman Capote's writing. So Music for Chameleons, it's
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Speaker 1: a great book. Go find that it's gold. And it
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Speaker 1: was certainly gold when we were trying to get the
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Speaker 1: right perspective on Marilyn Monroe in order to cover her
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Speaker 1: correctly in these full episodes that we're releasing. Okay, but
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Speaker 1: back to the biographies, that really helped illustrate what a
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Speaker 1: force of nature Marilyn Monroe was usually serious she was
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Speaker 1: about her career, and that really struck me. It really
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Speaker 1: struck me because going into this subject not knowing a
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Speaker 1: lot about it, just superficially we have I would think,
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Speaker 1: well I had. Anyways, I don't want to speak for you, guys.
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Speaker 1: I had this image of Marilyn Monroe as not being
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Speaker 1: a particularly serious artist, but she was. She became a
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Speaker 1: movie star largely to escape her impoverished and violent world,
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Speaker 1: her violent upbringing. I should say that she grew up
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Speaker 1: in and yes, she was often an emotional mess. She
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Speaker 1: was often depressed, she was often fucked up on drugs.
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Speaker 1: But this was a time when a person in Marilyn
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Speaker 1: Monroe's situation, somebody who was breaking the mold, somebody who
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Speaker 1: had become such a mega star off the heels of
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Speaker 1: a really fucked up childhood without hardly any family support
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Speaker 1: or any emotional support. Marilyn Monroe did not have the
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Speaker 1: tools to deal with everything that was going on in
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Speaker 1: both her career and in her life. If she were
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Speaker 1: an artist today, it would be an entirely different story.
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Speaker 1: This was not an arrow when things like anxiety and
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Speaker 1: depression were openly discussed and managed. You had to manage
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Speaker 1: that shit on your own. And yeah, self medication was
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Speaker 1: part of it, and I completely sympathize and empathized with
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Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe. Nobody was in the position that she was in.
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Speaker 1: To judge her for her drug use, to judge her
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Speaker 1: for how she handled the men in her life, to
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Speaker 1: judge her for how she let the men in her
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Speaker 1: life handle her is entirely fucked up from the position
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Speaker 1: that we now sit in, or as men, that we
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Speaker 1: could have sat in when she was alive. Like I said,
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Speaker 1: a completely unique experience. You know, Marilyn Monroe was a smart, savvy,
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Speaker 1: incredibly savvy, not just artists, but just human and you
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Speaker 1: know that whole like you know, gentlemen preferred blondes and
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Speaker 1: that happy birthday, mister President. All that was that was
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Speaker 1: a parody of herself, a parody of the image that
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Speaker 1: she created, the image that she created to attain success,
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Speaker 1: an image that, as you know, if you've listened to
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Speaker 1: the episode Studio Heads of twentieth Century Fox thought was
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Speaker 1: going to be ruined forever when nude photos from her
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Speaker 1: from her early modeling career were leaked just as she
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Speaker 1: started to become famous in Hollywood. Now, the executives, the suits,
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Speaker 1: the studio heads, they wanted her to deny that that
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Speaker 1: was actually her in the photographs. She realized how stupid
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Speaker 1: that would be, given that there were actual pictures of
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Speaker 1: her in the photographs. The photographs were of her. That
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Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say is you can't deny photographs. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So she didn't. She copped to it. She leaned into it.
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Speaker 1: She refused to be shamed by the thing, and she
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Speaker 1: used it to her advantage. She used it to flex
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Speaker 1: her power, and she got more powerful after this happened.
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Speaker 1: It was almost like a you know, it wasn't as
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Speaker 1: contrived as the Kim Kardashian sex tape, but it was
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Speaker 1: one of those things where it just enhanced the whole
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Speaker 1: aura and myth that was being built of Marilyn Monroe
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Speaker 1: at the time, and it made her one of the biggest,
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Speaker 1: if not the biggest icons living icons in the history
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Speaker 1: of entertainment. She became huge, a huge phenomenon. So, you know,
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Speaker 1: I asked this question earlier this week over on Instagram,
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Speaker 1: But what do you think is Marilyn Monroe the biggest
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Speaker 1: icon in the history of entertainment? Now that sounds like
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Speaker 1: a massive question to ask, but it doesn't. It doesn't
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Speaker 1: scare me because who else are we talking about? People
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Speaker 1: are gonna say James Dean, But I don't think James
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Speaker 1: Dean even comes close. Yeah, maybe his image, maybe it's
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Speaker 1: as iconic, but that's just the image, the lasting effect
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Speaker 1: as an artist, I don't know. Maybe James Dean does
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Speaker 1: on actors, but it doesn't seem to be as widespread, right.
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Speaker 1: I think if you walk just to random people on
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Speaker 1: the street and you know this country or another country,
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Speaker 1: and held up a picture of Marilyn Monroe in a
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Speaker 1: picture of James Dean, I think more people would be
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Speaker 1: able to recognize who Marilyn Monroe was. But I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson. I don't think Brando comes close.
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Speaker 1: I don't think Liz Taylor comes close. Maybe Michael Jordan.
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Speaker 1: Maybe Michael Jordan, who's the biggest icon you can think
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Speaker 1: of in the history of entertainment, And we can throw
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Speaker 1: sports figures in here as well. Has anyone else captured
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Speaker 1: the public's imagination for such a long period of time
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Speaker 1: like Marilyn Monroe has? Does the mystery around Marilyn Monroe's
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Speaker 1: death contribute to our fascination? These are all questions that
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Speaker 1: this fascinating subject prompts for us let me know your
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Speaker 1: thoughts six one seven nine oh six six six three eight.
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Speaker 1: And speaking of Merily Monroe's death, we're gonna get into
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Speaker 1: more detail on that with part two of the episode
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Speaker 1: that is coming up next week. It'll be the next
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Speaker 1: thing that hits your feed after the archive Rewind episode
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Speaker 1: that's coming tomorrow. Okay, So six one seven nine oh
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Speaker 1: six six six three eight, that's how you get in
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Speaker 1: touch with me, text, voicemail. Got two questions we're asking
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Speaker 1: this week. Number One, which celebrity death hit you the hardest?
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Speaker 1: Number two, who is the biggest icon in the history
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Speaker 1: of entertainment? Is it Marilyn Monroe? You can call me
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Speaker 1: six one seven nine oh six six six three eight,
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Speaker 1: leave me a voicemail, send me a text, and we
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Speaker 1: will answer those questions next week in the After Party
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Speaker 1: Bonus episode. But right now we're going to dive into
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Speaker 1: some answers from you guys on last week's questions. Let's
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Speaker 1: check out this voicemail here from the four one OHO.
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Speaker 1: This is a response to the William S Burrows episode
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Speaker 1: that we released last week.
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Speaker 4: Hey Jake, this is ad from the four one oh
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Speaker 4: Colin to let you know about two run ins I
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Speaker 4: had with William S. Burrow's Lawrence Kansas in Thank You
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Speaker 4: eighty six or eighty seven. The first was at a
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Speaker 4: small theater when Burrows entered inexplicably with an entourage of
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Speaker 4: small town farm grandpa and grandma types and sat in
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Speaker 4: the reserve brough right in front of me. My friends
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Speaker 4: and I later had the chance to chat with him
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Speaker 4: at the after party. The next time was about two
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Speaker 4: weeks later, when was in line ahead of me buying cigarettes.
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Speaker 4: He got multiple taps of Jetan and player's navy cuts
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Speaker 4: and seemed to fit. They ran out of three castles
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Speaker 4: and thanks for the great show. I'm a long time listener.
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Speaker 4: Talk to you later.
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Speaker 1: By four one. Oh, I appreciate it. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: the call. I love that you went to an after
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Speaker 1: party with William S Burrows. This one from the three
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Speaker 1: one six hitting us up in regards to our serial
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Speaker 1: killer conversation from the last couple of weeks.
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Speaker 3: Oh, chass chasing from Kansas, and you were talking about s.
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Speaker 2: A serial killer and I'm taking Leonard co Kim.
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Speaker 3: He has a.
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Speaker 2: Beautiful, scary faced boy. A lot of the songs for
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Speaker 2: a natural foreign killers, I think. I guess it's just
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Speaker 2: a voice.
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Speaker 1: That Leonard Cohen as a serial killer. Never thought of
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Speaker 1: that one, but that's what happens when we do two
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Speaker 1: calls from Kansas in uh In uh In, one after party,
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Speaker 1: this one from the nine oh four.
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Speaker 3: Hey, Jake, I don't know if we're past this conversation
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Speaker 3: or not, but I know you were talking about the
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Speaker 3: in my opinion, Pete Seeger.
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Speaker 1: Pete Seeger. Pete Seeger is one of those artists who
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Speaker 1: I think had he died earlier and didn't live the long,
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