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Ep. 365 - Train To Busan (2016) · Frightmares

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  Speaker 1: The following podcast will contain spoilers, tangents, hot takes, and
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  Speaker 1: excessive foul language. Viewer discretion is advised enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Frightmar's podcast. I'm your host Austin Proctor,
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  Speaker 2: and joining me today for episode three sixty five is
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  Speaker 2: my good friend Cory Johnson.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, I'm the world's biggest dickhead in the suit?
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  Speaker 1: Which one though there's two of them, No, no, one
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  Speaker 1: of them is awesome? And then one of them is
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  Speaker 1: the world's biggest dickheas.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait. I cannot wait to find out who
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  Speaker 2: you think or who you are telling me is who
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  Speaker 2: this is gonna be great. Today, on another installment of
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  Speaker 2: Zambrewery Attack, we're discussing our international pick Trained to Boost
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  Speaker 2: On from twenty sixteen, a movie that shows us that
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  Speaker 2: not even karma can be stopped by a zombie apocalypse.
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  Speaker 2: I can fucking speak uh. And we'll get into some
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  Speaker 2: of the karma that comes in later on in this movie.
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  Speaker 2: But let's see where this lands on the nightmare index. Boo. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about some ish we've recently watched. Corey, have
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  Speaker 2: we seen anything of value?
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  Speaker 1: I went and saw Send Help a few nights bag
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  Speaker 1: mane Hell yeahk or so ago. Now, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: our retail days blur time as an illusion. It was.
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  Speaker 1: It was fucking awesome. Rachel mcadam's back has to be
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  Speaker 1: hurting from carrying that entire movie, although I will say
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  Speaker 1: everybody that was in it was fantastic. The twist at
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  Speaker 1: the end is an absolute knife in the back. Like
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  Speaker 1: I part of me absolutely loved it because it was like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, you went there. I appreciate that, Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: then the other part of me was like, oh, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do that to me now, Like I'm still getting
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  Speaker 1: the payoff that I wanted, just not in the same
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  Speaker 1: theme as I.
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  Speaker 2: Wanted fair Fair. Yeah, it was a pretty pretty great
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  Speaker 2: third act there, for sure. Raymie is back. Baby. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if I said this on the show or
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  Speaker 2: if it was in a tik talk or something, but
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  Speaker 2: I just hope we don't have to wait seventeen more
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  Speaker 2: years for another horror movie from this man. He is clearly.
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  Speaker 1: I think we were talking about that on the last
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  Speaker 1: time Oka that you and I did.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, maybe that's what it was. Yeah, I need you know,
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  Speaker 2: not like one every year. Or something, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe not seventeen years. I'd appreciate one like a little
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  Speaker 2: sooner than that.
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  Speaker 1: Let me fix it, Yeah, give us the give us
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  Speaker 1: the Mike Flanagan treatment, Like make a banger, relax for
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  Speaker 1: a bit, make something that's okay, take a break for
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, come back and make something that's fucking amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Take a break for a bit. I mean, if it
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  Speaker 2: does planning and ever really take breaks. With how many
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  Speaker 2: TV shows he does, he hasn't done a movie well,
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  Speaker 2: I guess Life of Chuck. He hasn't done a horror
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  Speaker 2: movie since Doctor Sleep, I want to say, and that
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  Speaker 2: was twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean even even his TV projects are at
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  Speaker 1: least a year or two spaced out. That's very like
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  Speaker 1: there's a there's a little bit of cool off period
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  Speaker 1: for him. Now, does that mean that he's not like
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  Speaker 1: sequestered Naden somewhere writing things like a Madman. No, but
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  Speaker 1: he's not actively producing something.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I think neg I know, next
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  Speaker 2: year we're getting The Exorcist, which I can't even tell
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  Speaker 2: you how much I'm excited for. And I think next
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  Speaker 2: year as well, maybe later this year, we're getting his
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  Speaker 2: carry adaptation. So that's fucking incredible. And he's also working
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  Speaker 2: with Stephen King. I don't remember what it was, but
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  Speaker 2: he's taking on another Stephen King project, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: let this man cook with Stephen King's material. He is
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  Speaker 2: the only one who can successfully adapt multiple, multiple works
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  Speaker 2: of Stephen King and knock it out of the park
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  Speaker 2: every single time. So anything else besides send help that
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  Speaker 2: you wanted to mention.
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  Speaker 1: Uh no, not really. I mean I was my tax
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  Speaker 1: money about myself a PlayStation five. Uh yeah, So that
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  Speaker 1: has been mostly what I have been consumed by. Although
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  Speaker 1: although what are the games I'm playing? I guess could
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  Speaker 1: be considered like horror adjacent ooh, because you are a
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  Speaker 1: literal vampire.
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  Speaker 2: Ah. What is it called.
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  Speaker 1: It's called View Rising. It came out. It came out
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  Speaker 1: fucking years and years ago. I am late to the game.
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  Speaker 1: But imagine like Diablo mixed with survival crafting. Okay, but
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  Speaker 1: like when the sun but when like the sun comes up,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta stay like in the trees and in the
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  Speaker 1: shade or you take like massive damage.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, that sounds fun.
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  Speaker 1: It's a it's a good time.
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  Speaker 2: I've been playing with Kyle, very nice oh it's it's
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  Speaker 2: like an online multiplayer game too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh shit, yeah, Like I have.
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  Speaker 1: Been playing it exclusively with Kyle.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out Kyle.
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  Speaker 1: We have like a whole vampire castle. That's fucking awesome.
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  Speaker 2: That's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the things I've watched not too much, honestly, in
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  Speaker 2: the past week. I did watch My Bloody Valentine the
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  Speaker 2: remake on Valentine's Day. Me and Gabby always watch one
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  Speaker 2: horror Valentine movie or another. I think last year.
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  Speaker 1: There's only like four of as I know, there's like
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  Speaker 1: there's like four or five, like and two of them
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  Speaker 1: are the same movie. Just yeah, three decade, three or
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  Speaker 1: four decades apart.
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  Speaker 2: It's either we either we flip flop between Valentine, which
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  Speaker 2: is a movie that is so bad it's fun, My
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  Speaker 2: Bloody Valentine and then now you know, Hard Eyes. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so we watched the remake. I like the remake. The
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  Speaker 2: twist is a little silly, but honestly for two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and nine minus all the three D elements, because it was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, one of those three D movies. It came
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  Speaker 2: out in the craze of that time period.
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  Speaker 1: Lad my hot take of that movie is, while it
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  Speaker 1: is a halfway decent movie. Yeah, it was a vehicle
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  Speaker 1: specifically and only created for the three D craze. Like
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  Speaker 1: if yeah, if three D movies weren't hot at that time,
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  Speaker 1: movie would have never been made.
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  Speaker 2: I honestly have to agree with that. I think you're right, because, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's there's a lot of three D gags in that one.
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  Speaker 2: Uh So Yeah, besides that, I saw.
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  Speaker 1: That shit in theater.
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  Speaker 2: Same.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like I think every other fake out and
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  Speaker 1: I think every single on screen kill has some three
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  Speaker 1: three D gag with it, whether it be the weapon
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  Speaker 1: or the blood spatter, yeah or something. It's like almost
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  Speaker 1: entirely three D gags.
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  Speaker 2: But there is a lot of good practical effects, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: and Tom Atkins is in it, so I can't be
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  Speaker 2: mad at it. Plus that was the that was before
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  Speaker 2: Jensen Ackles really took off with Supernatural, so it's like
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  Speaker 2: a baby Jensen Ackles. He's great. I rewatched Keeper, the
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  Speaker 2: Osgard Perkins movie, and oh god.
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  Speaker 1: Before we got on, I literally just saw your TikTok.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I rewatched it because that was the only one
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  Speaker 2: I was kind of unsure about. When I walked out
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  Speaker 2: of the theater, and typically I either know a five
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  Speaker 2: vibes with his movies immediately, even knowing what was going
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  Speaker 2: on in the movie, I actually enjoyed it a lot more,
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  Speaker 2: raised it from a three to a four. I do
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  Speaker 2: think it's a pretty solid, little, solid little movie, honestly.
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  Speaker 2: And so there's he. He kind of broke the cycle though,
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  Speaker 2: of the every other movie I didn't like. So now
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck to expect from Perkins,
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  Speaker 2: but that man knows how to market a movie. Whether
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  Speaker 2: it's him or Neon, they know how to market a movie.
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  Speaker 2: And every time I see his name attached to him,
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  Speaker 2: I fucking I'll just go see it. So I watched that.
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  Speaker 2: We're still going through the Transformers movie. We just watched
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  Speaker 2: Dark of the Moon, which I thought was I thought
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  Speaker 2: was fucking awesome. Dude, No, I've either.
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  Speaker 1: No, I just mean the undertaking of going through all
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  Speaker 1: the Transformers movies, because I'm pretty sure I have also
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  Speaker 1: seen Dark of the Moon.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's the left because I saw one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw the first one in theaters.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so good.
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  Speaker 1: I saw the second one in theaters, and I definitely
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  Speaker 1: saw Dark of the Moon in theaters, and I think
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  Speaker 1: That's where I was like, you know what, I'm done.
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  Speaker 2: There's still three more movies, I guess in the same timeline,
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  Speaker 2: even though Shilah buff is not in four, five and six.
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  Speaker 2: Then there's Bumblebee, then there's Rise of the Beasts, and
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  Speaker 2: then there's Transformers one. I'm just going through Bumblebee and
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  Speaker 2: if I want to, maybe I'll do Rise of the Beasts.
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  Speaker 2: I thought Dark of the Moon was fucking awesome.
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  Speaker 1: By the time you finish watching those movies, there's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a new Transformers out, like.
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  Speaker 2: Fuck, so I really enjoy that one. I did watch
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  Speaker 2: a brand new movie for this year, even though it
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  Speaker 2: says twenty twenty five, everyone listening should know the rules.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't released to the Internet in the US until
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  Speaker 2: July January or maybe earlier this month. It's called Mother
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  Speaker 2: of Flies, and it is a wild movie.
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  Speaker 1: I've been seeing shit about this.
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  Speaker 2: You need to watch it just because it's totally up
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  Speaker 2: your alley and it's it's such a jarring movie because
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  Speaker 2: it's very much an indie movie, and in some scenes
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  Speaker 2: you're like, Wow, this is so low budget, and then
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  Speaker 2: other scenes you're like, wow, this has gotta be like
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  Speaker 2: a multimillion dollars. It's love.
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  Speaker 1: I love when an indie movie does that too, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because you can you can totally see that the director
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  Speaker 1: on whatever, like draft paper, he was working on this.
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  Speaker 1: The big budget scenes are everything that's like the big
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  Speaker 1: bolded paragraphs, and then it's just scribbles around it. It's
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  Speaker 1: like a vehicle to make these four scenes work.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but honestly, it is a holy original idea involving witches,
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  Speaker 2: and it was honestly I was captivated by it. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, it is a little rough around the edges.
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  Speaker 2: The acting is not the greatest, although the witch is
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  Speaker 2: top tier, like ten out of ten perform from her.
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  Speaker 2: But what's also cool is the.
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  Speaker 1: End of the day, if you're watching a movie about witches,
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  Speaker 1: that's really the only character that needs to be good.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely up your alley for sure, and I will
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  Speaker 2: I would whenever you have time chuck it out. It's
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  Speaker 2: only ninety two minutes, it's on shutter, it's got a
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  Speaker 2: three point one on letterbox, and the main three at well,
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  Speaker 2: I guess really the only three actors in the movie
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  Speaker 2: also all directed and like wrote it together, so it's
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  Speaker 2: it's really it's a it's a neat little movie. Honestly,
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  Speaker 2: I gave it a three and a half. But honestly,
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  Speaker 2: on a rewatch, could easily see it going up. It's
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  Speaker 2: just the those indie or just those really scenes that
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  Speaker 2: are kind of, like I said, rough around the edges.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to look past that sometimes just
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  Speaker 2: the quality of the movie with kind of bouncing around
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. But I do appreciate them for working
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  Speaker 2: within the budget that they had, because they clearly did.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a lot of passion and heart in this movie.
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  Speaker 2: And again it's a very unique concept with a topic
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  Speaker 2: that I mean, we've got hundreds of witch movies at
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  Speaker 2: this point, so to do something pretty original and something
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  Speaker 2: I've never seen was was quite impressive. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that's it for oh my Cult Movie Challenge. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: I almost forgot. I watched something. It was Tony Todd
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  Speaker 2: week for the Cult Movie Challenge, and I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: pick something that I hadn't seen obviously. I picked something
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  Speaker 2: newer Froum twenty nineteen called Immortal. I'm not gonna give
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  Speaker 2: you the I mean, I guess I can read you
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  Speaker 2: the description because it doesn't give anything away, but thrown
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  Speaker 2: into the face of death, only to emerge unharmed. Characters
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  Speaker 2: are left staring at their lives in the face with
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  Speaker 2: uncertainty and fear like they've never imagined. I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to talk about it too much, just because going in
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  Speaker 2: blind to this movie is honestly essential, because all I
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  Speaker 2: saw was Immortal three to two on letterbox. Didn't read
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  Speaker 2: the description, just went in best way to do this movie,
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  Speaker 2: hands down, it is. I can't believe no, I've have
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  Speaker 2: you even heard of this movie. I've never heard this
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  Speaker 2: movie mentioned in my life.
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  Speaker 1: I have not. And when you said it was Tony
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  Speaker 1: Todd week, part of me was finally hoping you'd have
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  Speaker 1: gotten around to watch The Man from Earth.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, that's what that movie is. God damn it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not like I've been knowing you to watch this
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  Speaker 1: movie for fucking three years.
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  Speaker 2: No, I know, I know, And that's that is on
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  Speaker 2: me because it's not. It has I've never haded it
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  Speaker 2: to my watch list. I'm adding it to my watch
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  Speaker 2: list now. So it's at the fucking top, all right,
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  Speaker 2: and it's only eighty seven minutes. I can knock that out. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So Immortal it is streaming on a variety of places.
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  Speaker 2: I think everyone needs to check this movie out. And
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: I don't want to tell you anything about it. It's
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: and I know that kind of is like for some
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: people you might need some context. Just know it is
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  Speaker 2: nothing like what you would ever expect. And that's really
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  Speaker 2: all I want to say about it. It is on
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  Speaker 2: and there's a lot of movies with the title Immortal,
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  Speaker 2: so it is from twenty nineteen. Tony Todd is on
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  Speaker 2: the poster and it's on Prime to be Pluto and Plex,
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  Speaker 2: So go go give that a watch, because I just
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  Speaker 2: don't know how I've never heard this mention. I just
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  Speaker 2: thought it was gonna be kind of a kind of
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: you know whatever, like a fair to Midland movie. And
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: Tony Todd in this movie is like anything I've ever
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  Speaker 2: seen before. Usually he's this, you know, villain or just
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  Speaker 2: has this presence about him, and he is the complete
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  Speaker 2: opposite in this He is completely shattered by what's going
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  Speaker 2: on with his storyline and crying and I'm like, this
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  Speaker 2: is Tony Todd like I've never seen him before, a
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  Speaker 2: great performance, totally different than what I'm used to seeing.
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  Speaker 2: So I urge everyone to check that out. It's only
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  Speaker 2: ninety something minutes. It's a great time. I think that's
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: all I have other than I'll save Withering Heights to
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: talk about with Gabby because she made me watch that
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  Speaker 2: fucking movie, What a goddamn train wreck. So I'll save that.
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  Speaker 1: And you and you would be speaking about it and
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: my eyes would just hit a loading.
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  Speaker 2: See. I don't want I don't. I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: lose Corey this early into the episode, So I'll save
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: that to go over with why don't we do the
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  Speaker 2: body counts? All right? Train to Train to Busan from
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  Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, released on July twenty second of that year
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  Speaker 2: in the US as a limited theatrical run. This is
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  Speaker 2: not rated. There is no sex in nudity, severe violence
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  Speaker 2: and gore, mild profanity, no alcohol, drugs and smoking, and
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  Speaker 2: severe frightening and intense scenes coming in at an hour
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  Speaker 2: and fifty eight minutes. Listed as an action horror thriller.
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  Speaker 2: Please excuse me while I butcher all of these names,
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  Speaker 2: But I am going to try my best. Directed by
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  Speaker 2: Jan Sang Ho, who also directed the sequel or prequel
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: whatever Peninsula. Written by Park Ju Suk, who only has
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: three credits but wrote something called Project Silence from twenty
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: twenty three, and then we also have the director writing
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: this as well. He wrote Peninsula too, composed by Jang
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Young Gyu, who also composed the wailing a fuck an
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  Speaker 2: amazing movie if you've never seen it. Cinematography by Lee
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  Speaker 2: Hyung Djack, who also did the cinematography for Peninsula and
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: nine episodes of Squid Games edited by Jim Moo Yang.
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  Speaker 2: He also edited Oak Jung Parasite and Peninsula, starring Gong
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Yu as siuk Wu who all he was also in
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  Speaker 2: four episodes of Squid Games. I don't know who the
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: d jockey man is, but that's who he was. I
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  Speaker 2: thought he was like a player.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I didn't watch Squid Games.
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  Speaker 2: Oh shit, okay, now Jessica.
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  Speaker 1: Jessica and her mother loved it, but when they started
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: watching it, they started watching it dubbed. I fucking refused,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: and then by the time they were like halfway through it,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't care. The things that I've
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  Speaker 1: seen of this, I don't care. Fair like a YouTuber
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  Speaker 1: is imitating this, I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, We've got Jung you me as Young Kong, who
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: was also in Silence twenty eleven as Ceo eu Jin.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: We have Madong Siak as Sang Hua, who was also
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: in The Eternals as Gilgamesh. Then we have Kim Sue
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  Speaker 2: Ann as Sue Anne, funnily enough, who was also in
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  Speaker 2: something called The Battleship Island as Sue He this one,
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  Speaker 2: this one's, this one's tough. Kim You You Sung as
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Young Silk. He was also in the Priests as Dean,
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  Speaker 2: the movie that we fucking love that christ. I was like,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I knew he was the young priest, right, I believe?
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: So yes, okay, he was, well, is Dean and was
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: it was Dean the younger guy, was Dean the older guy?
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Because I'm pretty sure Dean was the older guy standby
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Wiley check because it won't take that one so.
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  Speaker 1: Long since I've seen that movie. We did that year
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  Speaker 1: one of the podcast he.
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  Speaker 2: Really did and it's we're we're gonna be doing it
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: later on in the year. So yes, he is. Oh no,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Deacon CHOI, I guess that's who he is. Maybe I
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: meant Deacon and not Dean. Anyways, he's in Priests and
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: that movie is fucking amazing. We have Cho Wu Seek
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: as Young Guck. He was also in parasite as key
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Wu estimated a budget of ten billion wand, which is
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: about seven million USD worldwide box office at gross of
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: ninety three point five million, filmed in Soul and DeJong,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: North Korea. Funny enough, we don't actually ever see Busan
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: and it was not filmed in Busan. You can watch
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: this on Netflix, Peacock, Plex, tub and YouTube. Movies that
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: came out around the same time we have Independence Day Resurgence,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: which I forgot even fucking existed until I was writing this,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: The Neon Demon, The Shallows, The Big Friendly Giant, The Perge,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Election Year, The Secret Life of Pets, The Lady Ghostbusters,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Lights Out, Star Trek Beyond Jason Bourne, The Bad Suicide Squad,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Pete's Dragon Sausage Party, and Don't Breathe.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: So I think there was two good movies.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I am dB summary while a zombie virus breaks out
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: in South Korea, passenger struggle to survive on the train
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: from Soul to Busan. Let's do the autopsy, all right,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I am so confident this is gonna be a Frightenmarre
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: certified slap souh. Hit me with your overall thoughts and
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: train to Boustan.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Overall thoughts of this movie. Uh, you said it was
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: a roughly seven million dollar budget, and for what we
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: know about how much movies costs nowadays, they made that
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: seven million fucking work for them.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: God, damn, this movie is Polish on Polish as so
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I'm going to derail for like half a second. So
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I had the unique experience of watching this movie today
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: with somebody who has never seen this movie. I watched
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: it with Jessica's mom.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: She started off the conversation with I don't know if
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I can trust you because the last movie you recommended
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: to me was that damn suicide movie, and it was
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Daniel stamsu Necessary Death. Oh no, And that fucked her
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: shit up.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: It's so bad, like so bad.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: It took her until today And I made her watch
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: that movie back in like Matober.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say a while ago.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it took her till now to accept a
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: movie recommendation from me again.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: That like she got fair.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: She wouldn't watch Germo del Toro's Frankenstein because she didn't
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: trust me.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Oh no, oh man, what did you think? Oh?
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: She she really enjoyed it. Okay, she got to the
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: end though, and she goes, what the fuck, Cory.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: That ending is a fucking gut punch.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. But back to my overall thoughts,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: it's just a fucking it's a good ass movie. It
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: is arguably the best or in the top three best
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: zombie movies of all time. Agreed, And it's it's a
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: movie that really makes its scenery work for it. The
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: scenery itself kind of becomes a character and a obstacle
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: if you will, throughout the movie. Yeah, and the creative
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: ways in which they get around those things is just
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: so good.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Agreed, one hundred percent agree. My overall thoughts are this
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: is a truly peak zombie film that adds some fun
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: new elements to a creature we've known for decades while
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: still using familiar, established rules. It's a supercharged, unrelenting nightmare
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: of a situation that delivers the biggest gut punch ending
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: that rivals the emotion and the third act of twenty
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: eight years later. It's my overall thoughts. The setup to
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: this movie pretty basic. It takes a almost twenty eight
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: days later approach in terms of an animal having some
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: sort of something with it. Of course, they're not trying
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: to liberate monkeys from you know, terrible living conditions. This
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: guy is driving down the road through the quarantine zone,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: hits a deer, thinks the deer is dead. The deer
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: gets back up, looks into the camera, and it's like
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: trained to bussan. You're like enough information, Like that's all
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I needed. We don't need this overly, you know, like
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: overly explaining exposition. It's the zombie movie. We understand the assignment.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: And I appreciate the filmmakers for not like holding our
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: hands with that. But that's how foreign movies typically are made.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: They don't usually hold your hand with this shit. Just
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: like this is the story.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna pipe in some of Jessica's mom's commentary through
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the movie as we go it. And in this opening
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: scene we're watching it and this this family is like
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: if you can think of like Jessica will not watch
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: John Wick because the dog dies in the first like
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: ten minutes. Yeah, And even though that is I mean, yeah,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: it's the it's the set off for what the movie.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: There's nothing else reference that. You don't even see the
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: dog get murdered, right like, it gets injured off camera
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: and then it like dies in John's arms and shit,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: she won't watch the movie. So that's the kind of
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: like animal lovers these people are.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: So the truck hits the deer and Jessica, Jessica's mom's ghosts, well,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I don't like this movie, and then the deer does
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: the whole crickety crackety standing up and she goes, oh.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Shit, this year was dead. Jokes on you.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so her commentary made this movie that much better.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: If you can find somebody who has never even heard
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: of this movie, get them to watch it with you,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: because it's gonna be a divine experience.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I might have a friend. I might have a friend
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: who's never seen this, although I did really get him
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: into foreign horror, and it's possible. But I'm gonna text
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: him after this episode. If he hasn't seen it, then
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: movie night is in order. So we then focus on
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: siak Wu. He is a businessman only has time for business,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: letting his family fall by the wayside.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Bullshit, bullshit. He also has time for burger king.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: All right, burger king and work, that's all he has
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: time for. He's in the middle of a divorce. His
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: daughter doesn't want to stay with him. I love the
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: moment when he tried to do something nice and buys
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: her a Wii and she looks over at her TV. Oh,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I already bought you one for Children's Day. Like that
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: is an epic fail as a father not fucking present
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: in this girl's life, which is really sad. If you're
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: gonna be a dad, you know, be present. That's all
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I have to say. And then there's this whole struggle
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: where could you imagine if this movie played out without
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I don't know. I think she
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: would have been fine without her dad, But like the
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: k you know kids, Sue Anne, she wants to just
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: go to Busan without her dad, and her dad eventually
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: is like, all right, fine, I'll go. I honestly want
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: to see the version where her dad doesn't go. But
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: then we wouldn't get the cool character arc with that,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: you know, with you, and so.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you this movie's over before it starts.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, because she gets dropped off of
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: the train and because she's little Missed stick my nose
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: fucking everywhere, she gets got by the first zombie lady
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: because she's sticking her head.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: In the fucking bathroom where it doesn't belong and.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Movie's over, movies over, it'd be five minutes. Oh god,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: that's hilarious. So, I mean, I think the trope of
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: the uh you know, divided parents parent not paying attention
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: to the daughter is kind of a played out trope,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: but in this instance, specifically, it is so integral to
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: the plot that I'll let it slide because the character
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: arc that we see of siak Wu is so incredible. Uh.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: But I mean that is kind of just a very
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: very overdone trope at this point. But if you're gonna,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: if you're gonna work it into the plot, though, I.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Will say we we also have to remember though, that culturally,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: the Asian salary man, that's like a fucking way of
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: life there. True, like that that's a whole thing that exists,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: that's a whole sect of society. So it's not it's
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: not even like a movie that's just like, oh, hey,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: that's that's George from across the hall, like I know
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: that guy.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay. Well, and culturally too, I don't I don't
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: think they. I don't think the divorce rate is as
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: high as it is over there as it is here,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: So I think that might have maybe that's a little
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: different for kind of Korean, not traditions, cultural and to do.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: They specifically say divorce or are they just separated?
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Well, see, I thought I heard divorce one time when
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: he's talking on the phone with her. I thought he said,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: whatever you want to do after the divorce. I don't.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: I thought I saw the word divorce, but it is
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: very heavily implied because you know the kids in she says,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: this is why mom left you. So at minimum they're
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: separated for now. And yeah, so we don't know if
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: they're necessarily divorced, but things things aren't good. Oh where's
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: the thing? I need the did you leave it there
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: getting my charger? Because I always forget to bring it
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: in in my office. But yeah, so there there's a
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: clear divide going down that family and that poor damince.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: It is in the middle.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I just didn't know if there was
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: a certainty to it, because I thought that's that's part
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: of why he was going with her, was to try
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: and like smooth things over and get her to come back. Okay,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Like I so I didn't think it was like fully
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: like finalized like divorce divorce.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The problem, the only problem I have when watching
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: foreign movies for the podcast is it's very hard to
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: take notes, and I have to pause a lot to
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: take notes. Yeah, so sometimes I miss things. But yeah,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I thought I saw divorce, but I could be wrong.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Uh So what I love about this movie though, is
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: that within like fifteen minutes of the movie, we're already
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: on the train, like we are, we are getting like
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I looked over, I looked, I looked over to Jessica's mom,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: and I said, they waste no time.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, zero time. They give you the setup, they give
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: you the problems with the family. They they you know,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: they're going to boost to drop her off at her
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: mom's house. There's the story. Let's get to the zombies.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: But I mean like they also do that in uh
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Haunted Asylum, So I yeah, I think that might just
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: be like a cultural thing when it comes to their
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: horror movies. Yeah, like they're just like, you don't need
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: a preamble, like you're here for the hooky spooky, let's
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: give you, let's give you the start of the hooky spooky.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Well that's why I like foreign films so much. I
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: mean specifically Asian, you know, like South Korean and stuff
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: like that. Is they don't hold your hand. A lot
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: of American movies, like, especially when foreign directors come over
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: and do like films in the States, they have to
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: like hold people's hand because Americans are kind of dumb.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie, we're not We're not a very
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: smart country, so they don't have to.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Media literacy is not very it's not great.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: So that's what I love about And and it's even
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: crazier that you get such little set up because most
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: of these Korean Japanese horror movies are almost always two hours,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: so you don't even get that much set up. It's
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: just all insanity and lore dumping. I mean, the wailing
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: is like two hours and sixteen minutes. They waste no
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: fucking time, and it goes into so many different places.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: But that's what I love about this. You're on the
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: train in fifteen minutes, and I remember at about thirty
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: five forty minutes they are exiting the train at that
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: one station. I'm like, wait a second, I thought that
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: all of them, and I was like, oh, no, that's
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: what I remember.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: There being way more train, way.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: More train in train to busan. I'm like, oh, that's right.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: All the people there are zombies, and then they get
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: chased back onto the train. So I mean, really, you're
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: on this train for I'd say it's hour fifty eight,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: probably like an hour and a half of this movie,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: because there is about ten fifteen minutes where they're trying
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: to transition to another train, and then you have the
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: whole tunnel scene at the end. But I love the
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: when they're departing the station because you get little glimpses
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: here and there, like when they hop on the train,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: there's like a scuffle at the top of the stairs,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: and then when they depart, someone just straight up gets
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: tackled in front of Sue Sue Anne, and she's like,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: what the fuck was that?
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Well, and not only that, but as the doors are closing, yes,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: you get the catalyst woman that just stumbles in directly
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: and the least stealthily behind this fucking what is he
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: a conductor? An usher? He's a porter? Oh that's what
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: that's that's the that's the term. He's a porter.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I just said stewards because I that's you know, like
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: like yeah.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Like getting the getting the fucking porter, getting the like
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: just stumbling in and then how the fucking uh homeless
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: man gets on the train, I can't remember, but then
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: he's on the train directly across from the other person.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's so funny because they they kind of
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: fake you out in a way because I thought both
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: of them had the disease, you know, the infection or whatever.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: But the homeless man's just crazy. He's you know, he's
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: he saw a whole bunch of people die and he's
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: just like, they're all dead. They're all dead.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: And by the end of it, he's not that crazy.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: He's not.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just fucking shook up. Yeah, he's because he's
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: been experiencing this for like forty five minutes longer than
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: everyone else, Right, he is a little bit further into
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: the future of seeing what can happen with these crazy
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: people running in the streets.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: So by all accounts, he's probably the most sane there.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: He's just not sure what to think of this situation,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: and everybody viewsed him as crazy because they have no
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: idea what's going on. And there's there's one line that
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I fucking love where I think it is the one
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: of the porters or one of the conductors, where he's
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: talking to Sue Anne and he's like see this is
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: what happens when you don't stay in school. And she's like,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: my mom said that only bad people say words like that.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: She's like, oh, well, your mom must have not done
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: very well in school. I was like Jesus Christ, like.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, double the fuck down on the insult because you already.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Got Yeah, Like good lord guy. So yeah, you have
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: the infected girl on the train. You have the homeless
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: man who is not infected at all and actually saves
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: the day at the end of the movie. Like, props
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: to that guy for being a fucking hero.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Absolutely fucking heart wrenching too. I know, because he's probably
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: my second favorite character.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I love him. You have three just heartbreaking moments throughout
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: this entire movie with three characters that you you know,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: one you love right off the bat. I love. I
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: think his name, I think it was saying, was his name.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, mister Sung?
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I am going to refer to him, so I am.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing names of any of these people. I
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: am going to specifically relate to them as I viewed
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: their character. And he is mister blue suit. He is
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: the suit that I said it was fucking awesome.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Also, I am going to admit my uh, my whiteness
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: and my accident, my my doing an accidental racism.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: First time he showed up on screen, I was like,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: holy shit, when did Bennettict Wue get jacked?
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Uh no, now you're you're that's not You're not wrong.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I said the same thing. I was like, this is
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Benedict Wong. They they know, they they look they have
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: the same build, and they have the kind of the
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: same demeanor. But I mean, he still at least was
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: in one Marvel movie, so you know, we at least
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: have that going.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Well and and hilariously enough. So I did not finish
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: the Eternals because I thought it was a hunk of shit.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: It's very long as well, it's like two and a
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: half hours.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I because I didn't look at who was in
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: the movie. I just assumed that Bennett Wong got double cast. Yeah,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh damn, look at you double dipping.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, bro, take that Marvel.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah take that money. No. I had the same thing.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I had to double check because I was like, I know,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I I know him from something. But I was like,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's Benedict Wong. But I'm pretty sure.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: But and if you go and look up pictures of
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: this guy on the internet as compared to Benedict Wong,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: this dude is fucking cut. He looks like Bautista in
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Guardians and Galaxy. Yeah, like he is jacked out. And
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I was like, he would beat me up for coming.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, he beat the shit out of us for that.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: So you have he's my favorite character. He is absolutely
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: the best in this entire movie. You have a character
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: you love that has that basically sacrifices himself. You have
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: a character who you thought had the infection the entire
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: time but doesn't sacrifice himself. And then of course you
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: have you know, the main guy, the father, who you
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: really kind of hate. But then you know, throughout the
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: movie he just has these little moments where you can
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: see him actually realizing how terrible of a person he is.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: And by the end of it he's I feel like
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: he's done a one eighty. But well, you know, we'll
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: get there slowly.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no. And I sold this movie to Jessica's
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: mom as it's a story about a not super great
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: guy doing his absolute best to not be a shitty
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: person with the backdrop of zombies.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Right, right exactly. So that's a perfect way to sell
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: it though. So how they tell the zombie apocalypses is
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: happening is really interesting. I think when they're on the train,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: because there's TVs on the train and they're playing all
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: these clips of riots and people going crazy, one of
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: the stewarts is getting some wild information over his radio
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: and then you see, you know, seuck, he's getting news
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: from a colleague about what's going on. And then of
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: course the infected girl completely annihilates an entire like train
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: car when I think it was the baseball team. I
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: believe that she gets first, so just.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: No, the the baseball team doesn't come until later. She
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: gets the initial woman attendant.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: And she's like piggyback round, by the way.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: My favorite kill of the movie, because it opens up
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: and she like she's piggybacking her through the train car,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: and at first you're like, that's fucking weird that and
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: then and then they like turn the camera and she's
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: just ripping the side of her neck out and then
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: everybody goes crazy, and I'm like, that is how you
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: do escalation, because because from then on every kill holds
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: pretty much the same intensity, like it may it may
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: buffer a little bit up or down, but like that
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: first kill is kind of what sets the tone for
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: the rest of the violence of the non humans through
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: the movie. And I really appreciate it for doing that
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: because mostly in zombie movies you'll get like a bite
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: from behind and it starts off. Yeah, and then by
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: the end it's a fucking horde, which happens at the
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: end of this But the horde kills are no more
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: violent than the individual kills.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They take their time with both of them, honestly, Yeah,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: which I appreciate, but.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Every kill just has like from the start of the
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: kill to the end of the kill, it all has
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: the exact same level of escalation. Yeah, and it it
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: for me, it like keeps the intensity of the movie
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: because when they're not being killed off, it's just the
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: anxiety of, Okay, when are they gonna get killed again?
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Right, Because they're on this train, they're not really having
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: great communication with any sort of uh on radio because
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: it's hit or movie.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: We're fucking each other, right, They're every car has their
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: own shit that they're dealing with, and they're all dealing
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: with it different.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's really weird because it almost feels like
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: it's they're separated into not necessarily classes, but they're like
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: they're they're separated into like these little clicks where towards
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: the end of the movie you have that coo guy
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: who convinces his entire train car to lock the doors
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: and barricade them shut so that these survivors traveling up
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: from car to car can't come in there because they
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: might be infected. And it's just crazy how you can
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: have so much sway over an entire group of people,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: like let's not check them out first to see if
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: they're good. Now they're probably infected, all right. So it's
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: just crazy the hierarchy that you have in this movie
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: with people forming you know, clicks, and people getting with
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: each other, forming alliances and deciding what happens. And that's
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: where the karma comes in because they lock all those
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: people out, they bust through anyways and continue past them
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: when they are literally like booed out, They're like, get out,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: get out, you could be infected, and then they all
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: get goosed five seconds later, and I was like, yeah,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: instant karma liked goddamn so.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: And speaking of world's biggest dickhead in suit, through this
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: entire movie, Jessica's mom keeps going, how is he still
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: getting away? And I'm like, just wait, just wait. It
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: pays off, I promise.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Well, and since you mentioned that, we might as well
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: just talk about it, because I don't I don't mind
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: bouncing around. It just makes a conversation flow better.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like this movie hasn't been out for
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: a fucking decade.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Decade, but I love and this is one of the
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: things that I think this movie does a little differently
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: with the zombies, especially with his character, which is really
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: the first time you see this happen because Coo Guy
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: is clearly a zombie. On the final train that the
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: pregnant pregnant Lady Sue Anne and Siuk get on, and
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: he's and I love the blue eyes that they do.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: There's like these blue eye contact lenses and their faces
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: are all just janky, and he comes out like cognitive
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: talking to Siauk and he's like, you're infected. He's like, no, no, no, no,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: it can't be. I'm not infected. So there's this like
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: brief moment if the if you don't actually die from
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: the zombie bite and come back, if you just get
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: bit and turn. There's this brief moment where you're still cognitive,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: but you're clearly infected, because eventually he looks down and
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: then snaps his head up and then he starts attacking him,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, that's interesting. He's like, there's like this
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: weird transition period where you can see you're infected and
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh shit, and then you finally turn. I
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: love that. I thought that was very interesting.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Well, so I feel like, so I have a train
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: of thought on this. This is now in the movie,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: the second time this has happened, Okay, because it happens
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: with mister Blue Suit as he's holding the zombies back,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: he's turning slowly, and eventually he just gives in. I
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: think they introduced that as sort of an outcome of
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: what's going on to make the impact of the father
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: sacrifice makes sense.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and much more meaningful too.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because otherwise it's like, all right, well, why did
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: he turn into a zombie and then just fall off
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: the train. That doesn't make any sense at all now.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: But if we've very subtly shown that if you don't
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: die immediately, you hold just a little bit of something,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: then we can kill him off and have like some
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: emotion behind it.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: No, you're right, because you do see it with his character,
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: and then you see it with the COO much more
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: in depth, Like you see him for a lot longer
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: interacting and talking to Siuk, and then by the time
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Siuk gets bit and he goes to the back of
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: the train and when he opens his eyes and they're blue,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: and then you just see him recalling all of his
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: memories with his daughter, You're like, uh, I'm crying. And
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: then that's when he makes the decision, probably right before
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: he turns to just fall off the train. And that
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: and the just how they did it too, the shadow.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: It's like, man, I wish you would have just shown
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: him falling on the gravel like that. That would have
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: hit me less hard.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Exactly right, showing giving him this graphic, brutal death would
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: almost feel wrong to do because he clearly had such
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: a change of character that we're gonna make it more
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: dramatic by not giving you a bloody, visceral death. We're
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: gonna give you the one that's gonna hit you right
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: in the gut. And it it does every time I
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: know what's happening, and I'm like fuck dude.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Well, and I think one of the things that makes
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: that scene hit a little bit extra hard is the
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: entire sequence leading up to that, the chase through the
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: train yard, Because even I commented to Jessica's mom at
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: one point during that whole chase scene, I was like,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: this had to be the fun dave shooting for all
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: these extras, Like you can tell, like, I know it's
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: supposed to be serious, but you can tell that like
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: eighty five percent of these people are just having fun
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: with it. Oh yeah, like because like they're tripping over
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: these rocks and like rolling through train gravel like that
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: shit's gotta hurt, but they just roll keep on going. Yeah,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: you know why, cause it's fucking fun. I get to
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: be a zombie and chase four people for the next
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: six hours of reshoots that we're gonna have to do
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: so we can get all the goddamn camera angles, right,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: but you have all this fun, fun and bombasticness, fucking
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: human kurttail of the zombies on the back of the train.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Dude, that was so amazing.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: And then I go, how many bodies does this take
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: to stop a train? And then the train starts slowing
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: down and Jessica's mom goes, you jinxed it.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was cool, And a lot of those shots too.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: I think the overhead there was some added CG, but
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: there's definitely they're all on something that's dragging behind. Again. Yeah,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: there's a few shots where I'm like, that is one
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: hundred percent practical, which was really cool. So the moment though,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: kind of going back to the beginning where I think
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: six character gets shattered, is hearing his mom die on
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: the phone. I think that's what really causes him to
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: like shatter and kind of look at himself too, because
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: his daughter at one point also says all you care
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: about is yourself, and I think that also hits him hard.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: And he has a lot of these moments throughout the
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: film where he's realizing I am not the greatest man alive.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: And then you get this, you get this first glimpse
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: at a selfless act that he does when he pulls
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: sag onto the train when they're getting back on at
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: the Dejion station and he could have just left him there,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: but he waits for him and then pulls him on,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: and you're like, all right, you are starting to make
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: good decisions because directly before that they were gonna go
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: meet up with his friend Kim, who was supposed to
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: help him. So they divert from the group at Dejion
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: station only to be met with zombies, and then zombies
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: come from the other way. So he was already making
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: terrible decisions at that point. But then once they get
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: back on the train, he's like, no, Sang saved my life,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: so I'm gonna save his life. And that's where I
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: think his trajectory starts changing, and he starts making decisions
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: that aren't solely based around him and his daughter, because
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: he also tells his daughter only look out for yourself
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: in situations like this, and she's like, bro, all you
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: care about is your fucking self, Like and if fuck.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: It's funny. So I think at least this is what
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I got from it.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I feel like Suck is at the point at which
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: we meet him in the movie, he is already broken, okay,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: and that's why he is like extra dickish. I feel like,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: based on a line that Mister Saying says in which
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: he says, you know, dads get all the shit, but
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: you know, for us, it's all about the sacrifice. I
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: feel like earlier before the movie starts, he's making all
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: these sacrifices to build a successful life for his family.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: His wife doesn't see it that way. She separates from him.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: That shatters him. That's why he's disconnected, doesn't show up
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: to his daughter's recital. And I think that mister Saying
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: saving him the first time is what solidifies Oh, I've
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: been a piece of shit. Then he listens to his
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: mom die and that's the earning point for him to go, Okay,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: I need to be a better person. And then Saying
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: saves his life again, and then.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: He pulls him back onto the train when they're at
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: the train station.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: So and before that, when they're running after Saying holds
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: the door or after Suck holds the door and the
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: daughter's like let him in, let him in, So they
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: get let in.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Later on in that sequence, they're running back up the
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: train and mister Saying and his wife were holding the
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: door and they open it for Sook and the daughter.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: So there's it's it. And the second one is just
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: super quick, but it's mister Saying showing Suck like, hey,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: I'm better than you. I'm gonna let you in without
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: thinking about it because he's like he was. It was
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: super brief, and then it comes full circle with him
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: saving mister Saying and then they team up with the
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Oh god, my second favorite sequence of this movie is
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: just the quest of heroes through the fucking train car
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: with duct tape, bats and fists of rage.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I uh, that's in. That's in one of my
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: kind of like subverting that, or not subverting, but kind
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: of doing something different because hand to hand combat with
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: zombies it's very rare. Yes, some of them have bats
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: and they have a police like bat, you know, like
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: a police shield. But Saying just wrapping his arms and
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: tape and just beating the shit out of zombies. There
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: is peak moment in just all of cinema that is
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: not done in zombie movies. People are either hiding or
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: finding some sort of a weapon and they're like, this
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: is our only option, so we're gonna do this.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And not only do they do it, but it
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: goes from three semi bumbling guys to just the most coordinated.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: And I guess so in the culture, once you turn eighteen,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: you have to join the military for three years. Oh wow,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: So I'm guessing like that kind of training just roverts
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: back into them, so they hit the cohesive unit. But
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: it's funny to watch them go from kind of nobody's
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: individually to where they link up and we're just fucking
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: fighting zombies. Which since when can you just knock out
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: a zombie?
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess you you if you hit
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: it in the head just right enough. I don't know,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: but you have you have a baby.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Well earlier they're beating that one woman in the fucking
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: head for like forty solid seconds since she's still coming.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so there. Yeah, So there is some slide inconsistencies,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: i'd say with the zombies, but I still love that
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: scene because you have saying who's built like a brick
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: shit house. You have the father who, by all accounts,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: you know, he's a business man. He probably hasn't done
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: physical labor in a while, but he has the shield
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: and like the Billie Club. But then you've had a
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: baseball player that's his job to fucking hit baseballs as
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: far as he possibly can. So you have a pretty
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: interesting mix of people who are all coming together to
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: do the best they can, and they get through a
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: lot of cars honestly, And another one of the things
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: that this movie does differently with the zombies. Is I
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: love when they go through the tunnels, they realize that, oh,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: for some reasons, when there's no light, these zombies can't see.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: They have a hard time seeing, and they only react
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: to sound, and they use fun ways like calling a
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: cell phone and throwing it down the way to distract
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: them to get past them. That was a really cool,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: like different thing to do with zombies.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: And what makes it better is its essentially instantane is
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: like they're like, oh, we got the information, we use
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: the information. They don't have to have a fucking American
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: ask conversation about it. And then one guy go, no,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: there's no good fuck work. We're gonna do it my way,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: and then that guy's way fails and then he dies,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: and then nobody feels bad about it, and then they
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: go back to the original plan and it's and then
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: we wasted twenty five minutes. No, you go through the tunnel,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: and then suck is like, we got another tunnel coming
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: up in two minutes, and we've got two minutes worth
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: of time in the tunnel. Let's fucking rocket and they
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: just go, well.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: It's it's because of the visual storytelling. It works so
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: well in this because when they're like they're getting attacked
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: and they're like, oh shit, we're not gonna make it,
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: and then tunnel, they all just kind of start looking around.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: They all they all look at each other like okay,
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: So clearly darkness affects them in a way, all right, noted.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: So they do a lot of visual storytelling where you
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: the audience are learning something with the characters in the
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: movie and you're like, oh, I guess, I guess they
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: need light in order to fully see. And I a
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: speaking on this on the seeing part. I love there's
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: a moment too where someone mentions they only seem to
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: come after us if they see us. So one of
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: the ladies, I think it's Sang's wife, she grabs water
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: and a newspaper, fucking throws water on the glass and
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: sticks the newspaper up. Zombies are like, oh, I can't
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: see them, and they turn around and I'm like, this
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: is they have so many creative ways of getting around,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: these zombies without really going into any explanation, they just
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: see what they like. They're like, oh, they they have
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: trouble seeing. This is what I'm gonna do. This is
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: what we have on hand. And then they even use
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: a fire extinguisher.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Later, I say, and then like forty minutes later they
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: use a fire extinguisher to do the exact same thing. Yeah,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: well they evolve it over time. It's it's really fucking good.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really good. And like even the even
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: when they cover up their arms with the tape, it's
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: like that's no one's done. At least. I can't think
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: of a time where someone reacts so quickly to like,
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: all right, clearly they're biting us and they will turn.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: But if I put a whole bunch of tape on
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: the most exposed part of my body, I can use
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: that to fend them off. And even if they bite, like,
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: they're not gonna go through fifteen players of fucking tape.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: They just they have only one other movie and it
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: escapes me at the moment, But it involves duct tape
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: and phone books. Oh he tapes phone books on his arm.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: You know exactly what movie I'm talking about too, And
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: I just can't place what it is.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: It's not shown of the Dead, is it?
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: It might be? Yeah, So it's like it's like something
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: that really isn't done. A lot they find these they
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: They use their surroundings and what they have around them
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: so well in this movie, and it's just it's just
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: so brilliant with the with us with an established creature
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: like the zombies. I just I think they do a
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: lot of fun stuff with this with like I said,
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: with something that's been around for so long. I mean,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: zombies have literally been around. I think the first iteration
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: of zombies was white Zombie from nineteen thirty two. Of course,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: they wouldn't become popular, you know, until like the late
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: seventies or eighties. But still, you know, four decades later
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: and here's tryin to busan coming up with new, fresh, original,
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: fun ideas and not going into a heavy lower explanation
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: of why this is happening or how it started. They
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: just give you enough and it's there. I think this
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: movie is, like you said, top three at least, which
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: we should do at some point. I think we should.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: I think we I think I need to make like
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: a top five zombie list and see see where I land, because.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you which one doesn't even fucking come close
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: to the list.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Oh tell me?
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Is the sequel to this movie Peninsula? Oh yeah, I
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: saw that in theaters and I was upset. I genuinely
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: thought about going and asking for my money back. Yeah,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: because I was like, this is Fast and Furious Presents
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Trained to Busan Presents Peninsula, Like it was a zombie
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: movie that turned into a heist movie that then turned
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: into a drift car movie. And how you're drifting GMC
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: suburbans and escalades through alleyways, I'll never understand.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this one was definitely geared much more towards Western
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: audience or where are we Eastern or Western? We're Western,
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Western audience Western because they also speak English a lot
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: in the movie too. There's a lot of English. It's
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: not fully in Korean, and it's just like people. I
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: guess the movie did so well it was just kind
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: of natural to try and do a sequel. But yeah, Pence,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: I think I gave it like a two and a half.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: It really wasn't that great.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Are we still getting that fuck ass American remake Last
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Train to New York? Yeah, it's in production. I don't know,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: boo do that production team? Boo?
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: I'd rather it just not come out. Let's see.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: I still stick to my original joke, what is this
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: fucking Trained to Delaware?
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: I would love to see that one. Uh so yeah,
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: I mean this movie is so goddamn good. One of
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: my biggest takeaways of this movie is much more of
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: like a personal thing. It's like, don't work yourself to death.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Always make time for your family and friends. Don't spend
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: your entire life working, And if you have a child,
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: be there for those moments, show up. If you don't
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: show up for your kid will establish a sense of
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: trust issues at a very early age. That's you know,
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: from the people that they're supposed to trust. So that's
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: my takeaway. Always make time for family, don't work yourself
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: to death.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: My takeaway from this is never trust a man in
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: a suit.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: There you go that too. That's a much more straightforward
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: an easy one than mine. So, I mean there's I mean,
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: I feel like there's so much else we could talk about.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I get that's that's kind of the The only downside
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: to this movie is there's so many things that you
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: can talk about right that, at the end of the day,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: have absolutely no consequence on the bearing of this movie. Right,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Like it it's just like, oh, this fucking detail, or
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: oh what about that fucking detail, or oh that one
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: tiny bit of CGI looks kind of wonky.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're there. And there was like two or three
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: instances where I thought, I don't remember the CG looking
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: like this, But I also watched the I had a
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: four K copy of this movie, so it's the highest quality.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: And sometimes, honestly, when you when you get a high
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: res edition of something, it can make CG look a
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: little bit worse. Uh. But I mean two or three times,
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna fault this movie for that. It was
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: a seven million dollar budget, yes, And.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: For every half second of shitty CGI in this movie,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: you've got a full ten seconds of somebody overacting the
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: fuck out of the zombie.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: Cracks, dude, you know. And that's what I love about
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: like South Korean zombies is they are just on another
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: fucking level with the twitchiness and oh dude, I fucking
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: love I.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: You cannot tell me that they did not mechanically separate
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: that one man's arm to get him to be able
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: to run like that, Oh.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: My god, with it like behind his head.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: I was like behind in like backwards. I mean, I
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: was like, I was like, no, you broke that poor
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: man's shoulder.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: He has to be double jointed. Because this this is
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: as far as I can go, and his arm was
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: not bent. His arm was straight across the back ass.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: So I think that's pretty much all I have to say. Uh,
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I will comment on the sound design
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: in this movie. I did watch it full volume because
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: I had the house to myself, and with the surround
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: sound on it's they utilized every single fucking speaker throughout
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: the entire movie. It sounded absolutely incredible, very well balanced
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: as well. It wasn't front heavier, back heavy. It was perfect,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: perfect sound mixture. And that's also the other thing I've
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: noticed about a lot of foreign movies is they take
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: their time making sure the movie not only looks good,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: but sounds good. A lot of the times in America
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: they're just rushing to get it out, and that really
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: dips the quality of the especially the sound design with
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: the round sound. And then my final note here is
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: that I cannot express the unfathomable fear I would have
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: being on a trains, with being on a train with
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: zombies and then having to get off of that train
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: in the DeJong station, not knowing if people are gonna
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: be there or if zombies are gonna be there. They
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: took claustrophobia to win a whole new level by introducing
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: zombies on a fucking train.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no thing for no thing for sure.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: And if they're trained to do zombies, trained to boostan
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: zombies is what we get. I'm out much trained to
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: train to boo zombies, Yeah, train to boo zombies. I'm out.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: They're way too fast, way too twitchy. I am out.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: If I didn't review, or if I reviewed movies instead
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: of shamelessly plugging my own show, my review would be
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: straight up fuck those old ladies who brought hard boiled
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: eggs onto the train. Could you bring something stinkier to
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: a confined space?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: So hilariously, I definitely think one of those old women
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: was just a regular aged Korean woman with a wig
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: makeup and a wig. Yeah me too, Yeah, yeah, like
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: one I was like, you're like twenty eight, what are
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: you doing?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: It was the one with the curly gray hair. I
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I'm so glad you. I'm not the
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: only one. I thought the same thing. So, uh, I
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: think that's all I've got. It's a This is an
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: incredible movie. If you've never seen in it, I you know,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: I obviously I'm gonna highly recommend this one. I think
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: that I think this one depending on how our ratings go.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: I think this one is actually gonna be above House Sue,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: which is number one on the Nightmare Index. So why
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: don't we get going to.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: The real quick? I want to add I want to
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: add one other thing as a sort of as a
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: jokey aside, please runner up best girl is jin Hay okay,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: because she should not have been there at all. She
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: wasn't invited even and she was like, Nah, I'm gonna
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: come support my team and this guy that I really
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: fucking like, and then I'm gonna get did so fucking
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: dirty by the end of this movie, Like I'm just
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: here to be a loving person and I just want
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: to be close to this guy and then I'm gonna
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: eat him.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she really shouldn't have been there, all right. So
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: with that being said, that was Trained to Busan from
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. Let's roll into the final cuts so post
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: review stuff here taglines. There are two. One of them
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: is definitely good. Uh. The first one is Life or
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Death Survival begins and get on board to stay alive.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: Although I could argue that getting on board might get
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: you killed.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: They totally should have used the tagline that the fucking
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: conductor uses, which is to all of you still alive,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: safe travel, safe travel, godspeed, god speed. I was like, God,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: why is that not the fucking tagline?
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: That would have been a great tagline hashtag regrets uh trivia.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: Training to Bussan is the sixth highest grossing domestic film
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: of all time in South Korea. Training to Bussan's director
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: Yang Saying hose this is his first live action film.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: His previous works were all animated features the word design and.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: They also just recently did a animated prequel to Train
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: to Busan.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, animated prequel Sole Station, also directed by Jan Sang
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: ho Oh, apparently was released less than a month after
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Trained to Busan was released. I don't know, I'd have
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: to check, but there is an animated prequel which is
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: probably better than Peninsula. And speaking of your jen He
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: so He, who plays the character jen He is an
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: ex member of the famous K pop group Wonder Girls,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: and the film recorded more than eleven million moviegoers in
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: South Korea. No goofs that I could find a value
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: rated seven point six out of ten on IMDb for
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: our purposes of the Nightmare Index. That is a three
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: point eight out of five. It also has a four
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: point zho out of five on Letterbox, a ninety we.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Contributed to that.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: We did ninety on the Tomato Meter and an eighty
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: nine percent audience score. What did you give this?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: I gave it a four and a half.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: I also gave it a four and a half. So
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: let's see here. I think how Sue might still be
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: in the lead. Oh, I think we're tied. I'm pretty
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: sure how Sue has a four point four to five
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: and this also has a four point four to five.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: I will double double back on that and let you
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: know on the next episode. But that means we're like
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: six weeks into another fright their certified slap. Holy shit?
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: At this point? Are we not gonna have a slap?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Similar movies According to IMDb, we have Peninsula, World war
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: Z hashtag alive, Stellar, underrated zombie movie, All of Us
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: are Dead in zombie Land. Similar movies according to Letterbox,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: the most crossovers I've seen in a while. All of
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Us are Dead, World war Z hashtag alive, Don of
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: the Dead, and Army of the Dead. Let's do some
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: funny reviews. Uh what do you got Corey, how many.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: I've I've got a handful because two of them are
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: special guest appearances and when first start, when I first
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: started screenshot in these, I didn't put in my normal filtering,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: so they're kind of out of orders. That's fine, but
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: I think I have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: All right, you can go first, then, so uh first
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: one from qt Mochi A half star, no heart, genuinely
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: so ass hopped back on letterbox after two year hiatus
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: just to rate this.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Wow, damn four stars from Roberto Underscore. The whole movie
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: is just an allegory of what it feels like to
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: take public transport to school every morning.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: A bro, I have that same one.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: A the first time we've had a crossover. Alright, what
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: do you got?
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: A half star no heart from Sadie Muse not enough
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: trains and ma'am, I don't know if you were there
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: for like the entire last forty minutes of the movie.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: It is almost exclusively trains.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Well that my review is going to coincide with that one,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: because three and a half stars from Matt t. Technically
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: they take one, they take more than one train. It
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: should be called trains to Boostan. Oh shit.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: A half star no heart review from Reshan ten. Why
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: is that man eating Burger King in the office.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: I know for someone who's a fund manager, you think
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: he would have a more you know, not such a
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: cheap lunch. Three stars from Gil Hermie. That's what have
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: all been avoided if the dad had given a PlayStation
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: four instead of a Wii.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: But well it is twenty sixteen. Was that the PS
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: four had been out? Maybe it just came out, Yeah,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: I think so. A five star and a heart from
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Grace Sitta Run but hold me.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: Three and a half stars from Lucy, who I feel
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: like is always on this show. Zombies on a train
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: and then the Greater than Sign snakes on a plane.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: Of these motherfucking zombies on this motherfucking train. A five
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: star and a heart from Sari b. Completely contradictory.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: Uh I hate this movie, probably hate, maybe maybe hate
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: the way it made you feel. Uh. Four and a
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: half stars from Vinnie Simms. The real train to Busan
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: was the friends we made along the way.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: And then my last two I'm gonna go do in
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: tandem because they are from the same person. Oh are
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: lovely boy? Eric Cloud, Eric cloud. First one was from
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: I think twenty seventeen when you watched it, pretty fresh,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: four star and a heart incredible. How much more powerful
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: your movie can be when you create likable and relatable
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: characters and then put them in danger gripping and truly touching.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: And then his most recent one, which I can't remember.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: I think it was like either twenty twenty four or
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, so very recent, a five star and
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: who so good, so very very good. Army of Dead
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: should be ashamed of itself. The last drive in.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: Army of the Wait, Army of the Dead.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Army of the Dead should be ashamed of it.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Oh I like that one, all right? Four stars from
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Cookie Worst Birthday.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: Ever, which I just want to say. I don't mean
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: to victim blame, but this is one hundred percent the
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: daughter's full wait. Why Because if she didn't want to
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: go see her mom and didn't fucking push the issue,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: if she would have just waited for another day like
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: your dad had said. Number one, her dad would still
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: be alive. Number two, she would not have watched ninety
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: thousand people die in front of her. This is one
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: hundred percent her fault.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: That's the hot take. Also, I love this.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Also, it's it's equally her fault because if she didn't
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: put so much stress on her dad about being fucking
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: loved and wanting attention, he would not have made the
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: risky decision to, I guess definance this chemical company that
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: fucking exploded creating the virus, and he was he was
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: working because his fucking daughter needed a better life. So
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: it's the don.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: I'm so here for it. And he also wouldn't have
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: had to listen to his mom die had they not
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: had to go anywhere, because they all would have been together.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: So yes, all right, Well on maybe maybe yeah on
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: that maybe maybe the little Donn wasn't even born, the
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: mom dad would still.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Oh god, let me just be clear. I don't condone
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: any of what I just said. I did a lot
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: of bad right there.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: It just has to be said. The truth hurts sometimes. Okay,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: fuck all right on that brilliant take. I think we
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: should end the show here. That's a great, great spot
• 1:11:55
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• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: One is ah Zombies and the other is Wasting Away.
• 1:12:33
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• 1:12:36
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• 1:12:40
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• 1:12:42
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• 1:12:45
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• 1:13:02
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