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- Jonathan: Welcome back, ⁓ buddy. Daniel: Thanks So close Hey, how you doing? Bit hard at work Jonathan: Good. Good. Uh, uh, I didn't watch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you know, guys, surgery coming up. Got to do things. So got things coming up. So, um, but it's exciting. All the stuff that's happened. There's been a lot of stuff going on. Uh, we've had, we have the draft. We've had just some signings of some contracts. Uh, I do, uh, you know, pencil one or two of them in real quick. I will do that really fast. Uh, and then, uh, Yeah, it's just been a lot of work. But yeah, let's see. Yeah, like you were saying, hard at work. So before we get started, I wanted to ask everyone to give a revere of review wherever you listen to us. Five stars, if you like the show, really helps us out. Check out our website, the fantasy football war council dot Riverside dot com. And remember our Twitter at at war. Daniel: you Jonathan: dot underscore fantasy, give us follow and subscribe. It really helps us out because we're trying to grow the podcast. All right. So into business, uh, on the, on the work council, we're recapping the NFL draft this week and gambling in our own fantasy, uh, draft that we had just days after the draft starting on Sunday. And what a wonderful draft that was. I really love how that's, you know, the slow draft that we're doing. Daniel: you Thank Hmm. Jonathan: that draft you know it was our rookie draft we had our taxing squad this year which was really cool so Daniel: Yeah, finally billing out that that league all of the way. Third year in, we're finally full. Twenty two slot starting roster, fifty three total roster and ten person taxi squad. Jonathan: It's, it's something is it is something, but it's something because it's like, okay, I have to like, I, and then, know, if you utilize your utilize everything property, you've got your IR slots and you know, with the, with the addition of the taxi slots, ⁓ I was looking into that rule and how to use it, you know? ⁓ and, I am liking, yeah, yeah. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Jonathan: You and me seem to be the managers that do this. We utilize our teams to the maximum of what it should be and the other people don't really know what they're doing. And I actually had to, you know, I got a message from somebody. I will leave them a name, not to talk a little shit. But there was somebody from the Disney and ⁓ he's like, ⁓ my God, I got to drop 10 people. And I'm thinking, okay, do I do the right thing? And tell them that, you know, it's the addition of the taxi squad. need to, ⁓ hey, Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: open your fucking eyes and look. And when you click on the character, you can move your rookies into it, you know? ⁓ Or do I let them start dropping names? ⁓ And that's how it actually started with one of our other managers is ⁓ Martin started just dropping names left and right. And he dropped the first name and I'm like, add. Daniel: you Okay. you ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Jonathan: Hey Martin, by the way, you need to sort of... Your taxi squad's here buddy, I want to let you know. Solid, solid, right? Let's play it. Daniel: That's right. Yeah, I got to got to read guys. I mean, we even in the text chat in the text chat, they ask questions and we're saying, hey, it's a taxi squad. You're to be able to move other players in there. So don't go dropping all of these people before the draft. I still need to drop a couple to my surprise. ⁓ I think I dropped three players and two of my three were drafted. Jonathan: We've hammered this in! Hell yeah! Mmm. Interesting. Because you just look down and you go, man, I like what I've got. Right? ⁓ Daniel: Yeah, yeah. I took it as I've got a pretty strong team. I'm, castaways are being drafted, you know, not just added after the draft. So I was like, ⁓ okay. Jonathan: Exactly Yeah, like ⁓ you get the you get that how you doing during the draft when you when you draft someone and you get the heckle of like ⁓ man I was on my list or a good pick, you know, it makes you feel better about certain picks are like I know I got some picks like that from seasons before that I look at and go I've been holding this guy cuz you know he was a how you doing right and I like him and yeah you get those players of course I'm referring to ⁓ my defensive pick of Latu so ⁓ I was that was that was last year that was a how you doing for me yeah of course of course Daniel: Yep. ⁓ last year. Yeah, that was a yeah, that one was like a ooh, I was hoping for a too. I thought Bane might have been able to come back around, but Mario traded up for him too. So you did get Ruben Bane. Yeah, you jumped ahead of him. He called that pick. Jonathan: You know. He was the only one that traded up for him. Yeah. I was standing. Hey, I, I, I'm going to call myself this year the Disney trader because I've made a few of my trades while standing at Disneyland. So you have time in those lines and you just got to make moves while you're sitting there looking for rosters. So. Daniel: in that's right in the Disney League. Well, we'll go we'll go a little bit further into that. But first, you should tackle the news, I think. Jonathan: Hey Absolutely, absolutely. I'm going to add to it while we start to go right ahead because I know there was Daniel: Alright, ⁓ Bruce Hall most likely begrudgingly inks his three-year $45.75 million contract with the Jets. They had to throw a bag at him for running back because he didn't want to be there anymore. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Yeah, you know, it was, yeah. Running backs deserve it. Come on. They've been just so mistreated like the Nobody wants to pay the running back, but they all want to use them like a motherfucker Daniel: ⁓ I don't disagree with that. Yeah, it seems that 15 mil a year seems to be the higher end of what the running backs are making right now. then ⁓ next bit with the NFL schedule being released this week, ⁓ here are the key dates for the twenty twenty six season. Thursday, August 6th, Hall of Fame, Panthers versus Cardinals, Wednesday, September 9th. Season opener Super Bowl champion Seahawks. Jonathan: Yeah. Daniel: host the Patriots rematch at the Super Bowl. That's just mean. That's just mean. We're just going to Patriots are going to go out and just get trounced by Seattle and that's just a great way to start your season, right? We'll see how we'll see if that's the way it plays out. But ⁓ Sunday, January 10th, twenty twenty seven final day of regular season. Jonathan: next slide. Yeah. Daniel: Sunday February 14th is the Super Bowl at SoFi in Eaglewood, California down the street from up. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah, this is exciting! You know, I think we should hang out at some, I'm gonna try and go to some Super Bowl stuff and linger at some things. Get for the podcast here, you know, that'd be nice. And then we have you for the day. Yeah! Daniel: Yeah, that might be fun. Yeah. That's why we need you guys to like and subscribe so we can get press passes and give you guys the background stuff. Jonathan: My goodness, I'm working on that, I'm working on that. okay, and then today's news, Devon, Devon H. and Charnay signs with the Dolphins reaching an agreement on a four year, $64 million extension that includes a $32 million guarantee. And the deal can end up being worth up to 68 million with incentives. ⁓ So, get that bag. Daniel: Yeah, that was good. It's a good contract for him. He is the franchise right now and they want him to be around when they... Oh yeah, they want him to be around when they actually have a quarterback. So... You got it one year. Yeah. I do like the way that they drafted for the future just completely and totally punting on this year. It's a smart strategy. Jonathan: You need to know the person there. Yeah, well, get quick. Get building. get building. It's back to the last one. ⁓ Yes. Yeah, all the picks for next year. was actually kind of down for what they were doing. They're thinking of their strategy and thinking of next year. And next year's a really good draft. And I even made some moves in our draft trying to get some picks for next year. Daniel: Yeah, yeah, I saw that. There's there there's like three of us that own the whole entire first round at this point. Seven of the ten picks go to three three managers. Mario's got three first round picks next year and then you and I each have two. I'm working on another. Jonathan: Yeah! Yes. I know, I know. I only have two. Yeah, I only have two. Okay, there's time for more. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's time for more. I'm not done yet. I'm not done yet. I always like the years when you get two or three and when we sit at three. See, it's funny. Mario sits at three. I want to remember who was spearheading the whole we need to put a cap on PIX. I want to see all. Who was a part of this? Daniel: Hehehehehe Yeah Jonathan: And there was another manager chiming in. cannot remember. I'm sorry. But yes, we had, when I remember what year I had like three in the first round and people were like, this is fucking ridiculous. He won last year and he has three picks this year. What are we doing? And I remember going really close. think I was like ninth place that year with those three picks. So it don't matter how many picks you have. can all fucking flop on you. Daniel: you Yeah. You know, you just make deals too and you could have three first round picks in the first round. You know, we worked for those things. We got, you know. Jonathan: Oh, but hey, I traded. I gave away a raw 26 prime right now. So I'm thinking like, you're gonna have your best year and I'm gonna have to watch it. And I have to wait a season to get the picks for you. Daniel: That's what I'm saying. Like it. That's. That's right. Yep, I'm gonna have to toil through this season. Yeah. Jonathan: That's okay. Yeah, hey, I planned for this year. I planned for 2027 and I planned for 2028 and it did get me to move up into that Bane slot. So I do I like that because Bane was a happy pick for me. mean, yeah, yeah, yeah I wasn't the only one trying to move up for him and that made me really good when I stole that so. Oh yeah, no, it me feel really good. So, okay. Well, hey, I have some Daniel: Yep. Yeah. Homer picks for sure. Yeah. Jonathan: I wish there was more here. I wish Mario was here. I had some really fun trivia, but I'll go with you. I'll go with just you. So it's cool. And all our listeners, I wrote some really cool trivia that all logo trivia. So first off we have what two teams have swords in their logos. That should be easy. I mean, we are one of them. I'll give you that. Daniel: ⁓ Titans and Buccaneers. Jonathan: ⁓ It is Raiders and Buccaneers Daniel: Isn't the T for the Titan one big sword? Or no, was a long- that's a long time ago. Okay, yeah. Yeah. Jonathan: Okay, that was a long time ago. That was during, yeah, no, no, you do remember, because we bought that jersey together for ⁓ the other Oli. We gave him his jersey. And that was, ⁓ yeah, during those ages. ⁓ That was, ⁓ man, ⁓ man. I was a McNair, but during the McNair phase, that T was a sword. You are correct. They changed. You know, I can give it to you. I will give that to you as it's still a point because that's an O2. They used to have it. So great memory. Great memory. That's okay. right. What three logos, I feel like I peek body wise in high school from there. What three logos are? Daniel: That's... that's still in my head. Yeah, yeah, I'm still stuck in high school Jonathan: perfectly symmetrical. Daniel: perfectly symmetrical. Jonathan: you Daniel: Oof. Well they all like, is it like an outside measurement of symmetrical or whatever would be on the inside also? Jonathan: perfectly symmetrical it's gonna be everything yeah yeah it's okay Daniel: question. Yeah. Raiders logo. Jonathan: Close. ⁓ One eye has a patch. One eye does not have a patch. That's okay though. Good job. Good job. Daniel: I don't know, this is a difficult question because like Green Bay has that G but it's not symmetrical because it folds over on the other side. ⁓ I don't think the Jaguar is symmetrical, maybe, no, because the spots are different on it. Jonathan: Yeah. No, because one of the G. Yeah, tux, tux. Correct. Correct. Daniel: Wow, that's interesting. Nope. I'm trying to think of a... Jonathan: Okay? Alright? Want a hint? Want a hint? Daniel: Let's see. Yeah, I'm trying to think of like shields. It's got to be shields. Bears? Maybe bears? Jonathan: I don't know, because my brain, so it's a C and one side of the C was going to be open, you can't fold it. Daniel: I thought they needed to change it to the picture of the bear. Jonathan: ⁓ it is the bear. Okay. So the bear has, like a scowl on one side. It's one of the one that is not perfectly symmetrical. There is a scowl. Daniel: ⁓ man, I gotta think. Jonathan: We have an NFC South team, you have an AFC South. Yeah, correct. Yeah, there you go. That was an easy one. That was an easy one. ⁓ Daniel: ⁓ saints. Yeah, that one was an easy one. The Florida Lee. Let's see. Jonathan: And then we'll call an old school, like they haven't won anything. It's DHS. Daniel: AFC South. Ugh, Colts. Jonathan: Okay, hey, got it. That's a good one. Well done. Well done. Not who I was referring to though, but that's because they did win in 2008. There was at least Blu-ray in 2008, so. Daniel: I didn't hear the last hint then, sorry. I heard AFC South, so. Jonathan: Oh, that's okay. The hint was... No, my hint was... Oh, crap. What did I say? My hint was... They haven't won anything since VHS. Daniel: Cowboys. Jonathan: Well done, well done, well done. Good job. Hey, good job. got through that one. Okay, so what four teams feature only two letters in their logo? ⁓ man, I got some good ones here. I'm not even, my last one's a fucking killer. What four teams feature only two letters in their Daniel: Yes. Kansas City, LA, Rams. ⁓ Jonathan: KCLA. Good job. Good job. Daniel: New England. That's not on their logo though. Jonathan: No. No. Daniel: not in our log. Green Bay. That's not on their logo, it's just a G. Jonathan: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Daniel: Four teams. All right, let's see. Jonathan: once in California. Daniel: That's what I, LA Rams, San Francisco. Jonathan: Okay. Mm hmm. And then you got Kansas City, Ramsden City, Niners. Niners was the one you just picked up. Niners was the one you got. job. And then think another coast. Daniel: Kansas city. that was the other California team. Yeah. Jonathan: It's one of the other big cities. Daniel: Yeah Jonathan: What's the next big demogra- there you go, there you go. It's literally just a blue Ninmah. Nice. Okay. ⁓ This one, this one's a trip. This one's a trip and this one actually got me, got me when I heard this and I'm like, ⁓ wow. And I had to like look it up. What is the only team logo? The animal faces left. Daniel: New York, the Giants. Yeah Jonathan: So every logo faces right or is it symmetrical logo? What logo faces left? And it's an animal one. Yeah, it's one of the animals. No, incorrect. I'll give you two more guesses before I give it to you. I'll give you a clue. I'll give you a clue. Bet you can first clue, so. Daniel: interesting. Yeah. faces left. I think it's the Jaguars. Dang. Let's see. Wait, wait, let me see. Before we go to the clue, let me get one more chance. Let's see. ⁓ Animal faces left. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah, you get two more guesses. You get two more guesses. Daniel: No. That's a good one. So interesting. Just a single one. Jonathan: ⁓ When I heard that I was like, give me a look. And I had to look and I like, no way. I did get it. I did get it. But it threw me. It threw me though. Daniel: You did get it ⁓ ravens dang faces right all right the hint Jonathan: No, no, they bird faces. Yeah, bird faces to the right. inside. NFC East. Daniel: well I mean there's only... there's the eagle then. So the eagle face is left. Interesting. Jonathan: Yeah, there's only one. It's not really a hint. It's kind of like I'm pointed right at it. Yeah, it's totally there. And it only faces left. And you're kind of like, wait, wait, hold on. I have to look at that. And you see he is. He faces left because everything else, seahawks, cardinals, every bird, every animal it's facing. You got even got the Denver Bronco, the horses bucking to the right. So, yeah. ⁓ Daniel: in Right. I'm gonna forever remember that Jonathan: Yeah, and the dolphins, each dolphin, even the new dolphin, old dolphin, they go to the right. ⁓ What NFL team, what NFL teams have a full body logo? Daniel: Yeah. LIONS Jonathan: Yep. And I'll even give kudos points to OG. This is a couple OGs that can give reference to, but I'm talking current. I am talking current. Daniel: Hahaha There there are yeah current so let's see ⁓ Full body logo. Yeah. Let's see. Jonathan: I needed the jeopardy music today. That's what I really needed. I needed the jeopardy music today. Daniel: It's good thing I have headphones on, you can't see the steam escaping from my ears. ⁓ Jonathan: I don't know, we see it. The cogs are burning in your face. Yeah, we see it, buddy. Daniel: The lions is the only one I could think of right now. The Falcons have a full outline of a Yeah. It's the whole bird. Jonathan: Falcons, there you go, it's the whole bird, it's the dirty bird. Okay, good job. And I had already mentioned one of them as I was just talking and facing to the right, so... Daniel: Bronco. He's the... Yeah. Jonathan: That's an ode to the old one. Yes, with the whole bronco and the man on the bronco. Yeah, that's the old one. But their current one is not. Daniel: not. Alright, how many did I get? Two out of... Jonathan: You got lions, get the lions. ⁓ falcons, I'm sorry. have two and two. So we have both. Both are AFC. Both are AFC. Daniel: Alliance of Falcons. Jonathan: and I'll like split them in opposite ends of draft. Really good team, really bad team. Yeah, there you go. No, no. That is, yeah, that's the full body. Yeah, that'll give you the full body. Daniel: yeah dolphins yeah dolphins and patriots ⁓ that's that's a point for the ode to the old Yeah, with that, that ⁓ whatever patriot name is in a precarious position on the side of the helmet. Jonathan: Yeah, the American Patriot. I don't know what his name is. Patriot hater, long time hater. Yeah, long time hater. Daniel: Hey, yeah, they're just playing football Yeah, thank you Tom, what's the last one? Jonathan: No, no, no, we just fucking hate it. was Tom Brady. And then we loved Tom Brady. Thank you, Tom. Yeah. It is the bills. It's one you don't really think of. it's the bills. Okay, this was my favorite. This was my favorite. And this one really got me. ⁓ What NFL team logo is shaped like the state or city they are in? Daniel: Ahhhh, gotcha. Yep. Oof. Jonathan: This is actually legit that the logo is shaped to the territory or state that they are in. This is true. Daniel: interesting. Jonathan: Yeah, this one was pretty awesome. The history that went into this ⁓ logo. Do do do do do do do do do do Daniel: I'm like thinking of shapes of states. ⁓ I've got no idea on this one. No idea. Jonathan: and I'll That's okay. That's all right. So it is the Carolina Panthers. Daniel: Interesting. Jonathan: And it is representing both North and South Carolina as hashtag one Carolina. And ⁓ the, the long, the way that the jaw comes out really long and the neck comes out and it comes down. It's representing the whole base and it comes around. It gets old. It's actually kind of cool. It's unique. Yeah. It's unique. Yeah. So, okay. Why don't we jump into the strong. Daniel: ⁓ Interesting. Jonathan: I was gonna say strong in the draft, not strong with the team we're going with, but it's the ⁓ Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, we're gonna go alphabetical. The Arizona Cardinals. Well, you know, they had Jeremiah Love, so that's pretty strong. That was the highest grade to pick to have. ⁓ Daniel: As far as Pics. Yeah, I do like the Carson back pick. It's just like. Jonathan: I like dude I drafted it I drafted him come on and I couldn't believe he fell as far as he did in a super flex dynasty people were like I Get it was what? Freshman five you're not fresh me was a five five year because it was a redshirt freshman ⁓ He stayed got his full he finishes degree, which I really like to see out of some kids I Mean not the strongest arm Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jonathan: But I mean, I think he's accurate. I think he can be developed into. Daniel: Well, e- I think that there's actually a decent likelihood that he's gonna be a gem for them because he had surgery before he went to Miami and it was on his elbow and so... ⁓ Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Daniel: they already knew that his arm strength wasn't going to be what it was this year. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. But it takes gear too to... Daniel: but it takes time to heal. And so Miami said, well, we'll go ahead and we like his work ethic. We like his accuracy and it's not supposed to be devastating. So let's, we'll take you in the transfer portal and offer you the NIL. And then, you know, he had a great year. We got the championship mostly off their defense, but the knock on him while he fell is because he didn't have the same velocity and power in his arm that he had the previous years because of his surgery. Jonathan: Yeah. Daniel: So it's like, yeah, but like a year removed now. Let's see, let's see, you know, maybe two years removed by the time mid season comes around and people are pounding the table for, for Carson Beck to start. Like, and you might as well, you already know what you got with your Kobe Brissette. You might as well start him, you know, you might as well start Beck. Jonathan: and how we end the ⁓ that's what I'm thinking. Exactly. That's what I'm thinking. Cause then you go after next year's pick. If say he, you say, let's, let's see what he's got and let the season ride. And if he doesn't do well, well, we're now really high pick in 2027 draft. And there are a flush amount of quarterbacks in this one. So yeah. Daniel: Yeah, or Jeremiah Smith. You know, so like, okay, hey, we're straight on quarterback. Carson Beck shows out. He's a gem. We got lucky. We got a rookie quarterback in third round. Now let's draft instead of going quarterback like everybody else is, we're going to go the highest ranked offensive player. And so there's going be some serious talent coming out that is projected to come out, let me say. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Daniel: for next year for running back in receivers. ⁓ Jonathan: There are, there's a lot of good names coming out next year. Daniel: And if they're like the fourth pick or even like the fifth pick, they're they're at that point, depending on who comes out, they might be the first team to go offensive player instead of quarterback, you know, just because the traditional value move up. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Or at four, could fill somehow. I mean, like, honestly, at four, there might be the likelihood of three or four could be where Manning falls to, because he's not the best quarterback in the draft. So just the best name. Just the best name. Yeah, yeah, just the best name. So. Daniel: Yes. to this point, you know? Yeah, yeah. You know, just like Burroughs here, nobody was talking about him beforehand. Mendoza, nobody was talking about him beforehand. Stroud, nobody was talking about them beforehand. So like, you never know who's gonna actually take that number one slot for being the best quarterback at next year's draft. But they're talking about like three to five. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Quiet year, yeah, quiet year with the quarterbacks. Daniel: that they're already projecting for first round quarterbacks next year. yeah. Jonathan: Yeah, ⁓ yeah, I get a big list of First rounds and then you have Smith the you know being the good wide receiver. So ⁓ Well, ⁓ yeah, okay, so What do you great Arizona with their you know? Daniel: Yeah, yeah. Cool. So, falcon. or what do you want to do? Jonathan: Bison, uh, Bisonchus back, back at three, you know, their 65th pick, I think is actually one of their best picks. I really liked the love pick. That's good. Good pick. Daniel: Yeah. I mean, it's a great player situation, kind of sucks, but in the long run, I think that's a great pick for their team. ⁓ Jonathan: Well, they needed other things like offensive line first. There's a lot of things, but they're doing the right thing and they're grabbing the running back first because, this is the best player on the board. ⁓ Daniel: Yeah, that's. You're not going to get it. You're probably not going to get a chance at another player like this at a skill position. You're probably not. Cause if you do get a quarterback, you're never going to be picking that low again. know? So, ⁓ no, I do like their, their draft. give them like a B solid B. I really like Caleb Proctor as a defensive, ⁓ in the fourth and, ⁓ going with a guard in the second round. Jonathan: And then, no. Yes. Yeah, correct. Yeah, like see Procter? ⁓ I do like Procter. Daniel: you know really helpful. They need help on that quarterback running back you know a couple depth pieces here and there but yeah I give them a B. Their first four rounds were solid I'd say first four picks. How about you? Jonathan: I wanna see. I wanna see. yeah. I thought it was an okay draft. He started out strong and then it kinda just twiddled off into flyers. That's what I see. Not even like backups and flyers. That's what I'm saying. So. Atlanta Falcons. Atlanta Falcons. ⁓ No first round pick. No day one. Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. First round picks in rehab right now, isn't he? The one that did this trade, yeah. James Pierce Jr. or whatever, yeah. Jonathan: Yeah, yeah, last year. Yeah, last year. ⁓ No. Daniel. Daniel: I'm here. Can you hear me? Made you talk. Well, I see that he just dropped out a little bit, if you can still hear me. Falcon's Picks, AJ Terrell, second round, ⁓ Zachary Branch, third round, Kendall Daniels, fourth round, and Tornio Thompson. Interesting. Jonathan: ⁓ okay. I've lost. I've lost a co-host it looks like. Oh no, this is dead air. So I apologize. I have lost a cohost. We were talking about Atlanta and not having a day one pick. There he is. Daniel: Hey. Sorry, I started just reading off the names of the draft. Jonathan: That's alright. It looks like we just lost you ⁓ internet wise. So I'm sure you'll be you and me will be talking over each other. So. ⁓ Daniel: interesting. Yeah, I give them C- I like Jonathan: Yes, yes, I was gonna say like a D plus. But you, you, I mean like, it's hard to, you know, when you go. Daniel: Yeah. I'm giving them story credit, know, brothers getting to play on the same team. I'm giving them story credit. The one pick that I really like is Zachary Branch. That's it. That's it. That's... Jonathan: story. Yeah ⁓ Uh-huh. Uh-huh. It was a pretty good pick, the branch pick. was a, Harold Perkins wasn't, is this an okay? It's a flyer. I think that one's a flyer, but yeah, that was two 15, pick two 15. Um, backer from, uh, LSU Tigers. Uh, I think that was definitely a flyer pick though, but yeah, uh, the, the, the store, you're, totally right. It's story, but I mean like it's branch. He's, you know, Daniel: I like the branch pick. That's a great pick. The rest of them? Jonathan: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna say C+. Maybe D, nah, it's gonna be D. Maybe D. Maybe D, cause it's just a word. I'm gonna, yeah, we'll hit that, we'll press hit. It's just a word. Daniel: Yeah. I'm like a C minus, you know, one of five is good, but the rest of them are like, I'm interested to see what those Flyers are linebackers are, because that was a big depth as defensive players inside of this draft. So there are going to be players that are just like going to show out that we're not expecting. So ⁓ we'll see. Jonathan: Yeah. True. Okay. All right. The Baltimore Ravens. Now this, had 11 picks in this draft. Do you think it's quality over quantity? I mean, what are we thinking? Daniel: But yeah, yeah. I think they doubled down on both of them honestly. ⁓ I think that they got quantity and quality. I love their first four picks. Jonathan: I was gonna say maybe even Hibner, fifth. I can see adding Hibner. I think he's not bad, but yeah. I like Lane. Yeah, Serat. Daniel: It's... yes. Yeah. I mean, like, those ones were... I mean, we got Bane in the draft, but Ione went right before us, and I was so disappointed for that. That would have been... But we got Bane, and Bane is gonna meet a need, and he's gonna give more flash than what Ione would, so, like, okay. But... ⁓ he's... Jonathan: Yeah, I only would have been a really good addition to our offer. I hope he just plays angry because there's a lock on him for his short arms. I don't want a T-Rex out there trying to swing at things. Daniel: Yeah. Zion Young's Beast, Jacoby Lane has ⁓ a possession receiver. They've lost likely. Neanderthal is getting old. Zay Flowers. This is my favorite one right here. Sarat. That was my favorite pick of theirs. Jonathan: I like this guy on the lean pick because I hate him as Steve but... you Yeah, I think the flyer with Adam Randall from Clemson running back with 174. I thought that was a pretty good pick, actually. ⁓ Didn't you snag him in the draft, too? No? Okay, Mario. Okay, I had him queued up and he he ticked away and I'm like, damn, all these running backs are going, Daniel: Yeah, that's Yeah. No, I did not. Mario got him. Yeah, got like three of the seven running backs. Yeah, yeah. Just looking at that ROI, man. Let's just look at that ROI. If I draft a receiver there and he hits, it's not going to be nearly as much value to what I might be able to do in the future if it's a running back. Jonathan: You did, you did, I cracked a joke. wasn't eight like last year, but you know, three will do. ⁓ No, you were not wrong. There was a few picks that I wish I had charried around and moved around because I would have grabbed the running back and then gotten the other pick that I wanted and been like, okay, I got what I needed. I needed a running back. Yeah, that didn't happen. I didn't get a single running back this year. One that was good, I'll say. One that was good, I'll say. ⁓ Black wasn't bad. Yeah, Kaelan Black could be good, but I mean, I need CMC to go crash and burn. So let's see. Daniel: Yeah. I wouldn't, yeah, yeah. I mean, you don't, you never know. Yeah, and Jordan James too. They're saying they're pretty high on Jordan James. I give him an A, Baltimore. Jonathan: They are. I had a solid A-. I have solid A- here. Yeah, really, ⁓ they kind of took a buckshot approach here, but they did really good in some of their positions. And the Ioni pick is pretty freaking good. So he's a monster. Daniel: Yep. And then, ⁓ Buffalo, 10 picks in this draft. None in the first though. They traded out of the first. Jonathan: Yeah, there was no first rounder first pick at 35. Yeah. I don't know. I'm kind of I was not as impressed with Buffalo in some of their picks. ⁓ Daniel: Yeah, I don't- I give them- I agree. Jonathan: The Edge was an okay pick, I mean they could have done better. Skyler Bell wasn't a terrible pick. ⁓ know, another prospect possibly in slot receivers. ⁓ Yeah, exactly. I say like a C. I'm not impressed. I'm not really impressed by Buffalo with what they did. Daniel: I mean, we'll see where they shake out, I agree with the C and the only reason why it's not worse is because of the quantity of swings they were able to make. Jonathan: There is a good yeah, I mean like and they chucked down they needed they needed corner corner was one of their bad spots and they went down and drafted three pick 62 Davis I don't even it sounds like a dinosaur name here It been ⁓ son, I'm gonna butcher the shit out of that one ⁓ Jalen Kilgore, I actually like Kilgore from the South Carolina Gamecocks Kim Cox and then they had ⁓ Daniel: All right. Jonathan: Pride Jr. from the Tigers at 220. So three corners. Hammering a position they needed. And then, you know, two offensive linemen. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: A punter. I mean like hey Florida Gator. Florida Gator guys. Fuck yeah. Daniel: Yep. And a card on the seventh round. Yeah. It's I mean, take your swings. The quantity is a win in its own, but it's like, OK, you know, they know they know better. We'll see if they even pan out. Jonathan: Yeah, exactly. I think it's the Pan-Kid things. Yeah, so here's a team that I thought did really well is the Carolina Panthers. Daniel: Yeah, the South is doing better than I care to admit. Our division, yeah. Jonathan: ⁓ huh, ⁓ huh, ⁓ huh. But I see this team turning around. This team is actually turning around with what they need to be doing and not... They're to be a problem. They're definitely going to be a problem, but you know, a solid home run pick with Freeling, the Georgia Bulldogs tackle. Solid ⁓ pick. ⁓ Their defensive end Lee Hunter, the interior lineman, the defensive lineman here. ⁓ I really like this. This was my favorite pick of theirs was Chris Brazel, the second from Tennessee, the volunteers wide receiver. Daniel: Yep. ⁓ dude. Yeah. Lee Hunter. Jonathan: That was my favorite pick of theirs. I really think that, but they were just home run picks all the way down, ⁓ a center, a corner, a safety linebacker. And I think they just, this team hit it. They really, and their best pick was 151. It was their highest value was their, ⁓ safety from, ⁓ Wheely from Penn state. That was their best value pick was their 151st pick. So. Daniel: Yeah. you from Penn State. Jonathan: I don't know. I know it's hard to say it when it's our division, right? But like they did really well. Atlanta did not do well. I could not see that Atlanta did this well, but Carolina is going to be a problem. Daniel: Yup. Yeah. They did. Yeah, Carolina had a nice draft. They got value at needed positions and they got good players at needed positions. Jonathan: They're giving Bryce Young one more year to say, do something. And he actually did well last year. He did well last year. He didn't do terrible. So. Daniel: Do so. Yep. ⁓ Next is the bears. The bears. Jonathan: you exciting. ⁓ It's not like last year's Drapix, but like I was excited for this. I did like their first run pick with Dylan Finnaman. I wish they could have got a little better, but Finnaman ⁓ was best available, what they got for their DBs. Daniel: Dylan Theiniman Yeah, I love Dylan Theeniman. I love his game. He's gonna be... He's... Like, ⁓ him and Downs are the best safeties in this class, I feel like. Jonathan: Yeah, that was a good one. Yes, Alec Townsend's what a stud. Daniel: But the things that Downs does... might not necessarily transfer into the highest of fantasy points. He's got a very, very low floor, or very, high floor, right? But he's making so many good decisions on the field that the offenses are gonna be having to react to that, and he might not be the one that's actually making the play, even though he did make the play, right? Jonathan: Mm-hmm. ⁓ yeah, right. Yeah. Well. Because he's stopping it when a receiver's not getting thrown to because coverage is so amazing. You're not getting fantasy points for those coverages when the doesn't go that way. And it really hurts when, and the prime example was Ramsey. When Ramsey came into the league, everybody drafted him thinking, ⁓ my God, he's amazing. Well, he was getting zeros and twos as he wasn't ever getting thrown the ball. He's locked down. Daniel: you That's right. That's right. Yep. Jonathan: that side of the field when you're that talented. Daniel: And sealing the edge and driving the running back back in, right? You're doing everything right and awesome as a football player. It just doesn't translate it to the fantasy points. Dylan Deeneman's game translates to fantasy points. And so ⁓ I think of the the safeties this year, he's got the highest ceiling ⁓ where I feel like Downs has the lowest floor. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Nope. Yep. That's fancy. Yeah. Well, they moved him around and he could play in the net goal. He could be moved. He was first at all. Where, you know, mean, ⁓ Caleb was shut down kind of guy. Daniel: Yeah. Mm hmm. Caleb is so smart that he's basically diagnosing the play and they're having to respond in a way to get away from him where the cinnamon is in the play. You know, and so that's really the difference from what I've researched in what their game is. But I love the player. He's he's so much fun to watch. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. No, no, both were good. ⁓ It's gonna be interesting to see how they do and I'm wrong. But I was very happy for my wife. Like ⁓ Logan, Logan Jones, ⁓ center pick 57 ⁓ Sam Roush, ⁓ right end pick 69 out of Stanford. This was that was and then I really 89 ⁓ Xavian, Xavian Thomas. I love this fucking pick. ⁓ LSU Tigers wide receiver. I love that pick right there. Daniel: Ugh. Yup. Yep, Malik Mohammed fell too. He should have been a higher pick. Jonathan: Yeah, he was meant to be a day two pick, I think they said. He dropped into day three, day four, day three. So yeah, he was in the fourth round. ⁓ Yeah, I like what they were doing here. ⁓ They're building a really good team in Chicago and I'm very excited for my wife because they can have a Super Bowl in this town. Daniel: Yeah Yeah. Jonathan: Well, won't be in their town because they're obviously moving. They're moving. They're moving town. Yeah. Get the get it before you leave the town, guys. But, know, yeah, I think bears bears are on track. ⁓ A minus A minus. This is I like what they did. And they only did it with some picks. Daniel: It better happens dude, the year two, just like with McDonald's. Yeah. That's, yep, I agree wholeheartedly. That's exactly what I was going to give him too, is A-. Jonathan: Okay, all right. ⁓ Cincinnati Bengals. Daniel: just set it on fire. Jonathan: Yeah, yeah, I mean, well, I think that's kind of what they're trying to do because ⁓ they want hydra next year. I don't know. I can't see what else they're doing. I mean, the decisions is that they make is just throwing all their money into their offense. They have nothing left for their defense. And. I'm not even sure this is the shock of not even sure this is a shotgun approach. ⁓ I'm not like no day one pick, no day one pick. Daniel: I mean... ⁓ cash. No, I... I don't know. Yeah, it- Jonathan: not happy with anything they did. Daniel: There's nothing really of note like there. Cash is how is solid. ⁓ Jonathan: His measurables weren't ideal. Bad hands, bad knees. Daniel: But the A &M thing though, I think that the players, for whatever reason, the edges at A &M don't have a lot of good statistics, but they're like grading out very well as athletes. And it seems like their defense is more about contain than finish. And so when they do come in the league, it takes them a little bit, but the A &M players do turn out to be okay. And sometimes it's like, whoa, where'd this player come from? Because it's just like you're watching Jonathan: Okay. Daniel: You know, them in college and you're like, hey, why aren't you finishing? Why can't you just, if you could just get there, you'd be so good, you know? And then, and then the pros, a lot of them are. And so it's like, wonder, I wonder if it's a scheme thing coming out of A ⁓ where, or a coaching thing that they're coming in A So that might end up being okay, but I give them like a D minus. Jonathan: Thank Yeah. Yeah, yeah, a lack in coaching. Yeah, it sounds like a lack in coaching is what it sounds like. ⁓ Yeah, yeah. The Brian Parker. Brian Parker, I think was, was there, 189th Dackle. I think that was their best pick, in my opinion. Mmm, do they? Really, it's funny because they drafted a center, Connor Liu, before from Auburn. Okay, interesting. Slide up over from... Daniel: ⁓ Yeah, won't go F, but... Yeah. Wow. they designated him as a center. Interesting. Yeah, yeah, they double dipped. More teams are doing that. It's a smart strategy. Jonathan: I mean you can he tackles I mean tackles if you're playing tackle especially a left tackle. You're really freaking good I mean you cover someone's Most likely so they trust you so you can slide any position if you're playing It's probably the hardest to play online ⁓ Cleveland Browns as much as you want to vomit to this they actually kind of did well ⁓ Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Ugh. Yeah. Yeah they did. Ayyy. Jonathan: Yeah, I think he a a. Yeah. Daniel: I hate to say it, but they're like a solid A bordering A+. Jonathan: But the funny thing is, do they come out playing like this? Cause I don't see them coming out and playing well cause, you know, it's not even on the Zsprounds. They have no quarterback. No, they need a quarterback. Their quarterback is ridiculous. Daniel: They need a quarterback. quarterback I saw I saw a reel today of a guy like come on Watson is my 10th real I'm making complete a damn pass Jonathan: Hehehehehe Daniel: And then he's like, it again. Jonathan: not a shocker. And then you got Sanders, Dillon, and the other, because there's such a mess in this quarterback room. But boy, did they hammer down. Tackle, tackle, center, tight end, tight end, wide receiver. Yeah. Daniel: dude Excuse me. Receivers, the safety, Emmanuel McNeil Warren, that dude's an enforcer. I mean, they, I really like their draft. It was smart. It was. Jonathan: Yeah, I mean, good receivers, good receivers that grab with conception in Boston. think they, I love their tackle from Gators. I mean, I'm a Gator guy, but Austin Barber, was, they had a really good offensive line down in Florida. So. Daniel: value Yep. No, I really like their draft. think Casey Conception has a high likelihood that he will actually be the best receiver out of this draft. They were talking about his drops and drop rate and stuff like that. He's got a like they say like above like a 10 percent drop rate through your collegiate careers where like you're supposed to have a lot of red flags and he's just at that threshold. But. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Daniel: A lot of people are like, but look who's throwing him the ball. Like, you know, it's not all his fault there, you know, because there's moments, there's like, wow, how did he catch that? And then the other moment is like, you doing alligator arms across the middle? Because then it's like, well, that could be also coaching because the coach is like, he's going to try to kill you. We need you. You're our only offensive weapon. Don't do that. Yeah, don't die. Right. Jonathan: Yeah. ⁓ Yeah. Don't die. Don't die. You just realize you're in the center of the field and you're like, ⁓ fuck, boy. Daniel: You know, so it's like. Yeah, yeah, he's trying to kill me and they need me I should not do that, you know, so there's protect yourself and so like there's ⁓ I think there's more to it because there's no way that a guy that has a high drop rate is also making some of the other catches that he's making is there's just too much of a indecision or discrepancy in between those two things for me but Jonathan: Yeah. He had really good hands, but the drop rate it was a it's a it's a Mike Evans coming out right here It was a good comparison. So yeah Nah, Cleveland did well. They did well. I think they nailed it Daniel: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Solid A. ⁓ this next one makes me... This is the one that makes me, you know, vomit a little bit. Jonathan: But it's really because they got calmed down. Let's be honest, it's because they got calmed down. I did like the Malachi Lawrence pick too. No, know, look, look, it's, can't, I just can't say that they're doing good. It's team that's sucked for such a long time. They're the new Raiders now. ⁓ Daniel: I was gonna say, it's not just downs. It's the... But you know, the last three years I have liked their drafts. But. They hasn't transferred to much, right? Is it there's the management side of things that have happened later, but I do I love their first five picks. ⁓ And this the last two are are decent. Yeah. Jonathan: But no, no, that's not. I, ⁓ yeah. Yeah, yeah, I can even add in six. Yeah, I'd say they're those are more the flyers. They're more the flyer. Daniel: Yeah, but the their first five pigs are like, ⁓ my gosh, so good. Jonathan: man I really had them out at Lawrence Edge and then they doubled down on Edge with Ja'Shawn, they really did well yeah and then Tackle, Drew Shelton but I think their best pick was hands down their first pick with Caleb Downs. Back to you, Trapp to them. Daniel: Para ⁓ yeah, moving back, moving back and getting more picks and then still getting Caleb downs. That's sick. Yeah. A plus. Fuck. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's like, fuck. That's because it downs. Yeah. All right. Now, a team that could have done better. I was actually not so impressed with the Denver Broncos. Not impressed. And when your final when your final pick, 257. Is your highest graded pick? Daniel: Yeah. Not impressed. Jonathan: That's not good. stuck at it all. Daniel: Yeah, yeah, I'd give him a C-. Jonathan: C- for sure, I'm gonna think C- is a D+. I just, I'm not wowed by anything here. They had no first, they had no day one. God, they got no day two pick. Look at that. It's a, first pick is 66 in the draft, so. Daniel: Yeah Yeah. Yep. Third round, so barely day two. Jonathan: Yeah, it's the start of the. Yes. And ⁓ yeah, it's middle of day to look at that. Daniel: I do like their Jonah Coleman pick, their Cage Casey pick, and then their Justin Jolly pick. Those three were like, ⁓ they're on track. And then it just kind of falls off again. But we'll see how it works out. Jonathan: The Keach KC was probably their best pick in my opinion. Yeah. I did like the KC pick. He was a good lead blocker for Gentie. I like that Daniel: Yeah. Alright. Jonathan: Detroit? Detroit? Yeah. Daniel: Detroit. Yeah. C minus. Jonathan: It's generous. Daniel: Hahaha Jonathan: That's generous. think they could have done better. mean, Blake Miller's not bad. They could have done better, though. Daniel: I feel like Blink Miller was a panic pick. They knew they had to get an offensive lineman in the first round and now everybody else that they wanted was gone and so they're just like, just get Blink Miller. Jonathan: But these We should have moved up, yeah. Daniel: Yeah, yeah. So I like, yeah, it's okay. Jonathan: Yeah, Derek Moore, Edge, their second pick. I think it was probably their best pick. He's kind of small. Yeah, D+. I got C-, Green Bay Packers. No Day One picks, six picks. D. C, I give it a C. I don't know, maybe I'm just being generous. Maybe it should be with you, but I- Daniel: Yeah. D plus. See. We flip, we flip what? Jonathan: Well, we flip flopped. I like their last pick, 2-16. They drafted a kicker and they went Trace Mack, Florida Gator. Best pick, hands down. I like their pick. Daniel: Well, at least you could find something you liked. Jonathan: That was the only thing I liked. It's the only thing I liked. Yeah. And then they kind of, yeah, they kind got better, but Cease was the best available. I know, see, wanted, they needed quarterback and Cease was the best available that they have. You know, 52, but yeah, no, here. D. D. D plus, smack. Smack gives them the plus. Daniel: That's what I'm saying, least you could find it. I can't find it. I don't like it. It is bad. You know, it's deep. Yeah. D minus. Yeah. D minus. I think it's the... Yeah. Yeah. I mean, don't... That's... That's... perfectly fine. They... I'm still gonna go... Yeah. Jonathan: Come on, snacks awesome. Here's to the gators. I'm a gator lover. I'm the gator. I'm the gator. So I gotta love that. Yeah, I gotta love that. Okay. Houston Texans. ya? I don't know. Daniel: ⁓ I like what they did. I like that they double-dipped to positions of need throughout their draft. So I like their method. I really like the Rutledge pick for them, is they need interior line help. There you go. And he used one of the top ones. ⁓ Kaden McDonald from Ohio State could be an absolute beast. ⁓ Jonathan: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Daniel: He felt the only reason why he fell to the second round is because one year he weighed like 396 pounds and then last year he weighed 350 pounds because they had to get him on a nutrition thing because he was losing his explosive because he was too big. So teams are worried about his work ethic and weight but it's not like it was good that went bad it was good then bad then good. So obviously he's already working on that right. ⁓ So he's an absolute menace. Jonathan: You gotta get the control. Yeah. Yeah. Daniel: defensive tackle that could really be a steal for them. Marlon Klein, they've got an aging tight end room. They're trying to get some new blood and a talented tight end class. And then going back to guard here. Fibiki Nwani and you know, double dipping. Then linebacker double dipped a couple of times, you know. Jonathan: Right, I see it. Rated out really high here, yeah. Daniel: I give them like a ⁓ C to C minus, but I do like really like their first four picks. ⁓ Jonathan: I felt it was... yeah. This was a butt shot. Yeah, I felt like this was definitely a butt shot method. Okay. Uh, cults. Daniel: No, I'm being generous. Yeah. Take us away. Jonathan: Well, ⁓ let's see. Daniel: Didn't you draft this player? Their first pick? Didn't you draft CJ Allen? Let's see. Jonathan: I'm back here. Hey, Alex. Let me check that. I don't know if I did. Daniel: Was it you or was it Alan? It might have been Alan. Alan took him at the end of the second round. Yeah, Alan took CJ Alan. Yeah, that was a good pick. Jonathan: I think that was Alan, because I don't have him. Yeah, I don't have him. Not much. Yeah, that's good. Um, I like their, uh, the edge. Kaden Curry. was a two 15 out of the Buckeyes and the one right before Florida. Ader, uh, George Gums, George Gums Jr. I, they doubled down on their edge. Well, they went tripled down on the edge because they get another edge at two 37. Uh, so they did hammer that position. See, uh, Daniel: you Jonathan: Seth McGowan, let's see who drafted him. It wasn't one of yours. ⁓ I believe it because I want to say I looked at him and I thought he was behind so many names. ⁓ Daniel: It was not, I did not draft South McGowan. I think he's actually a free agent still. Yeah, they've got three names ahead of him right now. It's really Giddens who you want outside of Taylor. Jonathan: Yeah, Taylor's running that room for sure ⁓ Yeah, you think you think the unburks wide receiver that's you think that sir Okay, it's good science Daniel: Yeah, think they got a sleepy pick and in Burks. I think he's a sneaky pick, yep. I think he's one of those receivers that's like, ⁓ like twice in his career he had competent quarterback play and each time it was against decent opponents. It was like Alabama and... ⁓ Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Daniel: I forget who else. he went off with those two games though. So it's like, seventh round flyer. right, so. Jonathan: I mean Colts took some chances. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say a B- Daniel: It's still good. B minus? Yeah, I was gonna say C. Jonathan: Yeah, it's a B minus. Okay. ⁓ ooh, ooh. I think this is our first F on the board here. Jacksonville Jarvars. I don't know if I can be generous here. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: 10 picks. None in the first round. And I don't like any of these picks. Daniel: like one manual pregnant Guard from Oregon. Jonathan: Guard, Guard from Oregon Ducks. Yeah, pick 88. Daniel: He was supposed to go higher and so I do like that one pick. Jonathan: Pass blocking yeah good graded out seventh among class blockers this year in guards Allowed only one sack two hits and two hurries. Okay? 471 pass blocking snaps. It's not bad Daniel: Yeah, he's a monster and he's very good. That's one pick, so give him a D plus because of that. Jonathan: Okay, alright. 10 picks, and you only nail it with one? I'm gonna D-. Daniel: ⁓ Yeah, D-. Not quite F, because you have one pick that shows hope. Jonathan: Alright, the thieves, the Kansas City thieves, they took Delaney. ⁓ my goodness, a solid pick for them. At pick six was Monsoor Delaney. Daniel: you Jonathan: big for their backfield. I think they were just dreaming and oozing for like, ⁓ love to fall here. I really thought Kansas City would be one of the teams that took love. If Arizona moved out of said spot or did not take love. ⁓ this was one of the picks that I thought would step up other than, you know, like Dallas Cowboys paying the world to, you know, bend over and take love away. Daniel: Yeah. Yeah, I had some conversations with Mario and a couple of friends and I was pretty sure they were going to go cornerback. ⁓ I was like, they've got to go corner. ⁓ Yeah, they traded away their corner. Their bread and butter on that team is Spagnolo who makes good corners. Jonathan: Only Well, they had some loss. They had some loss there, so they need it. Mm-hmm. Daniel: I was like, just makes, I think that everything else is kind of a smoke screen so that if somebody did want to come up for love, then they would be able to if you could fall that far. But. Jonathan: Oh yeah, it's trade value. Yeah, it's all trade value. I really thought Dallas would have done it really and paid the money. You know what I mean? I really expected that. really expected them to do it. Totally surprised. Daniel: you Yeah, they still got it at 11. Got him at 11. Or downs. Garrett Nessemeyer, Peter Woods, R. Mason Thomas. know, I do Emmett Johnson, Cyrus Allen. I unfortunately do like their draft. I'm going to give them a solo B+. Jonathan: Hey, I'm Garen Neusmeyer. Garen Neusmeyer. and city can yeah i think i'm gonna with you on that one i'll give them a b minus but i think i i think ⁓ i think they pretty they did well Daniel: you Yeah. Yep. Jonathan: They would done better than drafting Neusmeyer at 249. They feel they would have up, know, drafted somebody that they could have taken back or something else, you know what mean? Daniel: yeah we'll see i mean they still they still believe in danny dimes i think but we'll see Jonathan: first pick in the draft the las vegas las vegas las vegas raiders ⁓ i mean it's the raiders what do think Daniel: Yeah. Yeah, I do love their draft. Jonathan: They did well. Me too. They fucking... ⁓ You know, ⁓ Kurt Cousins in the draft, they picked one to be trained by the OG, Kurt Cousins himself. I mean, it's pretty smart. ⁓ trade on Stukes, quarterback out of Arizona, the edge rusher, K Ron ⁓ Crawford. I really, ⁓ I like pick one 22 though. Mike Washington jr. I do, I do actually. I really liked, ⁓ I thought Mike Washington was ⁓ one of the better, it was like top five running back end of this draft. I it was, I thought he was like the number five guy on my paper. I had him as my number five guy. Daniel: profit. Do you like that one? ⁓ Hmm. Jonathan: and here we got taken away. Daniel: I love their ⁓ Jermod McCoy pick in the fourth round who's widely regarded to be the second most talented but dropped because of medicals but he's out there practicing so if they get three to four years out of him of extremely high production it's worth the pick. You know he might not have a long career because of his need being degenerative but dude if he if he performs as well as he could in the fourth round ⁓ my gosh Jonathan: It's really valuable to me. Mm-hmm. Absolutely. Daniel: He might not be a second contract guy, that might not matter, you know? Jonathan: Yeah, he'll be getting a knee replacement at that point, but that's... Daniel: But he will have improved their team greatly. ⁓ Jonathan: Yeah, but then they have to go hunting again. So it's a lot. Daniel: Yeah, yeah, but still fourth round is still a radical drop I think. Jonathan: I don't know, you're, yeah. His evaluations were critical and... Daniel: second to third is as far as he should have gone. It's insane. And he was their second fourth round pick. That's just, ⁓ no, he is their first fourth round pick. Yeah. Washington was the second. What do you give them? Hey. Jonathan: Yeah, he's good shut down guy. Hey, solid as much as I hate the Raiders, man, they did well. They did well. think I mean, for me to like a pick at 122 and go, hey, you guys did really well. And they still had five more picks after. So I think they did well. Malik Benson, Oregon Duck at 195. Honestly, like, I hate to say it. Raiders are improving and I don't like to say that. So. Daniel: Yeah Yeah. Yep. I agree. Jonathan: Okay, let's... We've already had... Lost... Lost card... Eww, well, mean, you know, that's what happens when you draft them, so... I mean, I do them with Gentie, so... I get it. I get it. Yeah. Daniel: I am now invested in Fernando Mendoza's future though. Yeah, I was left no choice. Yeah, yeah, I was left no choice. My player got taken right before me. That killed me. My heart broke. So Sunny Styles went at number three in her draft right before me, before I got Mendoza. And so it broke my heart. Even though Mendoza is actually better for my team build, ⁓ I was positive. Jonathan: this this I mean did you really think that light was gonna fall? Ohhhh ⁓ yeah, superflex. Daniel: that Mendoza was gonna be the third or second pick in the draft and that Stiles was gonna be there at four. And I never thought that Mendoza would actually make it to me that much as far as I did in the beginning. And then I was doing mocks and the more that was coming out about it, his stock kept on rising. And I was like, dang, especially being a super flex, I was really surprised that he was still there at four. ⁓ And then the fact that it went IDP at Jonathan: Hehehehehe You Daniel: three, think honestly, I think that might be the pit, the best pick of the entire draft, but it broke my heart. Yeah. So now I Jonathan: I Sonny Stiles is a very good pick and it broke my heart. I didn't have a first choice on my pick so. Daniel: Yeah, well he was going for if Mendoza wasn't on the board and if both of them were on the board I Might have still gone styles. I might have gone with my heart instead of Mendoza, but I'm happy with Mendoza. I'm just now vested Yeah Yeah, props props to you Joey But to the Chargers Jonathan: Yeah. Well, the draft, like the feature Luke Eakley. Missed out on the real guy. mean, you know, to get the feature Luke Eakley. I totally get it. So. Yeah. Daniel: ⁓ I do really like their draft. They're hammering offensive line. Keep Mesador as a now player. Jake, Jake's lotters a solid center. It is best center in the draft. Some people were saying Brennan Thompson. Yeah, Brennan Thompson, somebody that can finally not outrun Justin Herbert's arm, you know. ⁓ Jonathan: Big Slaughter. Yeah, I like your slaughter is a good one. I mean, it's Gators, come on man. Chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp. I think they did Chargers did phenomenal. They had a week last year their line took them out and they went Hammered hammered two tackles guard and a center. I love it. Absolutely love it. So a minus I go higher than what PFF gives them. I really like them. I really like their trade ⁓ the Los Angeles Rams Daniel: Genesis Smith. ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. A-. I agree. Jonathan: pick Ty Simpson with 13th pick overall. Is this a panic situation? Just sit the quarterback. I mean like, this is, he could have done better. This, this. Daniel: You know, I'm... Jonathan: I see T.I. being there in the second round. I don't know. Daniel: that ⁓ I'm in the minority. I like the pick. Jonathan: I don't see it, like, I'm not saying I don't like it, but I don't like it as their first. Second pick? Or I like that pick. Daniel: there he wasn't he wasn't making it to the second round ⁓ there's lots of GM's and and people in the know that were saying that Ty Simpson wasn't going to make it to the second round somebody was trading up into the 20s to get him and so ⁓ whether it was going to be Arizona or whether it was going to be the Jets ⁓ there there on there is good reporting out there that says somebody was going to take him in the first round outside of the Rams. And you just don't know how long you're going to get with Stafford if he sits for three years and gets to learn behind Stafford and McVeigh. mean, he's. If he sits for two years and gets that like that's that's on the outside, you know, the three years, even a year sitting under Stafford and McVeigh, you know, two years, optimally. Jonathan: You you'd get three years out of Stafford? I don't know. Stanford's the dude. Stanford's the jandalufin. Daniel: ⁓ But they say that he's got a lot of talent. He just needs more time. And guess what? He was just awarded time with one of the best offensive staffs in football, if not the best offensive staffs in football. So ⁓ I'm in the minority and I understand people are like, what are you doing? When now? And I'm like, yes. Jonathan: King of the Huckit and Chuckit guy, right? I am the greatest, but I get called the best when I'm out of water. you This is their win now moment right here and McVade doesn't want to coach forever, so Daniel: But I mean, there's the choice to win now or win for the next decade, you know, so like take the win for the next decade shot. You don't know if you're ever going to be back up at 13 without making a trade at this point in time with the first round quarterback on the board. You can have him sit and and not throw him in the fire immediately. All right. And have the ability to. And so I process. Jonathan: Yeah. And they the ability to. Yeah, and they have the ability to. How many teams have that ability? I like the wrestler draft. I like the wrestler draft. I like Simpson. just, fuck, I'm 13. Oh, it kills me. It kills me. Draft that high to have a guy sit. It just kills me. It's just like last year. Daniel: Yeah. Wait. I'm, I'm. Yep. Jonathan: Anyway, I like Max Clair. think tight end, he's a good blocking tight end. ⁓ He's in a room full of tight ends though. They have a massive tight end room. Daniel: Yep. Yeah. They do. Well, I mean, they're running 13 personnel constantly, so it's going to be like 40 personnel next year. It's not going to be a running back. It's just going to be freaking four tight ends and a couple of receivers, you know. So, Kade Tron Allen, you know, or not Kade Tron, sorry, Williams. Jonathan: Yeah Hahaha Daniel: Yeah, Kikatross, I think I'd give them a solid either A minus B plus. Jonathan: I go B, I go B, solid B. just, smart, I get it. I totally get it. You have the ability to do so, you can do it. Yeah, I get it, I get it, I get it. The Miami Dolphins, tanking, tanking here, just straight tanking. ⁓ 12 picks in your draft. 12 picks, let's have the trade. Daniel: Yeah. We are. Jonathan: Let's trade back for more trade back for more. I mean, they're rebuilding and they're hammering positions. Linebacker, linebacker, linebacker, tight end, tight end. Daniel: I love their draft for what they're doing. Everyone that they got are players that have high ceiling. Jonathan: I split the grass for what they're Mm-hmm. I see highly rated highly rated people down this list ⁓ This is a B plus in drafts for a team that should be tanking. They actually did pretty well Daniel: in time. Yeah. No, they, there's a high possibility, but besides... Jonathan: lost you for a sec. All good. High possibility of something. Daniel: Sorry, my bad. No, accidentally pushed a button. I was tinkering with my hands. ⁓ Proctor, Chris Johnson, Jacob Rodriguez. I love Jacob Rodriguez. And Proctor Pick is great. Chris Johnson. Love Chris Johnson. I think they did a really good job in their draft. I give them an A-. Jonathan: Yeah, I think that's the best pick. I think the Rodford East pick is the best pick. Daniel: I think that it is something that matches their timeline of a year or two away and all of those players are going to be right in their prime right when they might be getting a quarterback ascending. Jonathan: going to be a real young team coming up in a few years if they can hit, especially if they have a high pick next year and they go after quarterback. Yeah, this could be a problem team for sure. Daniel: Yep. Three years from now or two years from now Their quarterbacks in their second year and and these guys are in their third year and they're all coming on together Could be something dangerous. I like what they did Jonathan: Thank you. Alright, we're sitting here an hour fifteen and we still have quite a few teams. I don't want to skip any teams here. Maybe we try and like... We can put a pin in Minnesota and try and go a date. see. Daniel: You want to just put a pin in at Minnesota? 12 more to do. Jonathan: 12 more we can save them for next and then do those 12 with Schedule talk next week. Yeah. Why don't we do that next week? Okay, then ⁓ tune in next week. We'll finish the remaining 12 teams and then we're gonna hammer out the schedule because schedule releases in a few days it comes ⁓ up Tomorrow or it's this week. It's tomorrow or Friday, right? So they Daniel: Catch you all. Sounds good. I don't remember. Sorry. Jonathan: Okay, anyway, I know the schedule's kind of no, it's okay. I know schedule comes out this week. They were talking about it the other day because that's what they teased those four or five that I already threw in. So the rest of the schedule comes out. by next episode, we will have ⁓ remaining 12 teams and some schedule chat so we can talk ⁓ good dates for good games, good matchups, things to look forward to. So ⁓ thanks. 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