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EDP24: Eoin is 12th in Irish 5000m / Dean is WA Half-Marathon Champ / USATF British & Irish National Champs reviews / Sunshine Coast Marathon / Beach to Beacon USA · Easy Double podcast

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  Hello and welcome back to the Easy Double Podcast.
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  We're on episode 24 and there's no surprises that I'm in the
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  studio with Owen Smith and Dean Menzies, who are both on the
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  back of great race results this weekend.
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  So we'll go firstly to the man who is 12 in Ireland and the
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  5000 meters on the back of this weekend.
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  Congratulations, Owen. Thank you very much.
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  Yeah, I was pretty happy with how the race planned out, but
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  there's definitely more room for improvement.
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  But now I was pretty happy with the result with the
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  Mediterranean and I've done and all that sort of stuff, so I
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  can't complain. Yeah, spoiler alert there, but
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  you'll have to hang around to hear about the actual race
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  because he was dancing with the big dogs.
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  That's. Not where he put it.
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  For a. For a laugh or two.
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  Yeah. And the fellow Co host Dean was
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  battling the elements out in Perth on Sunday morning.
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  Believe it or not Owen. There was thunderstorms and
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  weather warnings left, right and centre.
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  Welcome, Dean. Hey guys.
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  I yeah, just an Irish summer's day I think, but it was tough,
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  Tough as far as Perth weather goes.
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  I seen videos of the conditions and I was like Oh my God that is
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  rough. There was, yeah, it was the real
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  chance of it being called off. I think it got delayed.
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  But these are so soft over there.
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  Oh my God. Called.
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  Off Jeannie Mack. Back back me up there, Ryan.
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  Oh, and I don't know what I said to Dean today in England that
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  would have been called off just off the forecast, like forecast
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  storms. They were doing like Nah, fuck
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  that. Really.
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  Yeah, then maybe we're just soft English.
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  Was it income? Go on.
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  You go. Was it that bad?
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  Like because normally if there's a wind blowing like in your face
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  one way, it's going to be on your back of the way back in no
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  so. It was, I think it was like
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  something like 40 to 50K now winds with up to 90 kilometre
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  gusts. But the, I think the wind wasn't
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  the issue. It was, it was lightning.
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  The risk of lightning is an electrical storm.
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  So it was trying to make sure that that had passed.
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  So that's why they they delayed this.
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  We can probably get into it later, but they'd push the start
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  back because of they didn't want.
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  No one wants to get zapped. It wasn't worth getting that.
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  That was that was the main risk. Otherwise, it was game on.
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  Yeah, that's fair. If there's lightning, OK, that's
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  fair enough. Yeah, because no one wants to
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  get zapped. Again, spoiler alert, I let Dean
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  tell the story, but it was the winds were strong enough to blow
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  him into his backside. The thing?
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  Yeah, I fell over but that, but that's all right.
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  All the wrong shoes, to be honest.
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  But you live in your land. Right then before we start the
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  episode off, I think it's fair to say we've maybe got a few new
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  listeners since we kind of last addressed the audience.
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  So yeah, just welcome along guys.
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  And you might gather that we're just kind of winging this, but
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  we're having fun with it and it seems to be somewhat working.
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  So we'll just keep doing what we're doing and hopefully you
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  guys keep tuning in and letting letting us know what you think,
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  regardless of whether you think we talk too much shit or not.
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  Now before we get into the series stuff, I did want to go
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  back to last week's episode where I said that I might get
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  try and get a selfie with the AC Milan players because I've been
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  holding on to this story all week.
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  I've been itching to tell you. But I've kept it for the pod
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  because I was trying to get some pod content in there as well,
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  believe it or not. So me and Becky went down to the
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  Dunner Q&A, fan Q&A events in the casino.
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  And I was like to Becky, Hot Dragon.
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  If I put my hand up and I ask a question, I'll like record it on
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  my phone and we can like clip the audio into the pod.
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  And I was thinking how, how can I ask like professional
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  footballers a question that will be relatable to the pod.
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  So then I was thinking on it loads and I was getting a bit
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  like tense off. And I think Becky's just looking
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  at me like, oh God, he's going to, he's going to actually ask
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  something, isn't he? So they bring out Christian
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  Pulisic who's like their star player, the captain of America,
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  Captain America, captain of the USA, Tamori, who's the English
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  centre half and like a winger, Chuck, Chuck Maisie or
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  something. And the guy says any questions.
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  So like straight away. And then next minute there's a
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  woman who starts walking over with a mic and like I got myself
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  that worked up. I forgot to get my phone out.
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  But I said to him, I guess pre season is a lot about building
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  fitness isn't it? So who would you say has got the
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  best 5K time in the squad? And then they're all they're all
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  looking at each other thinking like, who's going to answer this
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  and how do we answer it? Because we probably never really
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  ran a 5K time trial. And eventually Pula 6 says, oh,
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  you know, there's there's a few different groups of fitness in
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  the squad. Like there's the top guys,
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  there's the next guys and then there's the guys who probably
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  aren't so fit and like the crowd were laughing a little bit and
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  then out of nowhere goes. But you know, we're all probably
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  pretty fit compared to you lot. Oh, little did he.
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  Know well I was like sucker punch because yeah, you probably
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  I am quite unfit right now. All right, just sorry to all the
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  American listeners, but that's such an American answer,
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  thinking, oh, I'm the best. Unfortunately, the woman had
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  walked away with the mic. She should have said, well, one
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  week of your wages said you're not faster than me.
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  It should have moved again. It was cool it.
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  Could have been 1,000,000 bucks. Yeah, or just getting removed by
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  security. But obviously you managed to get
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  a photo. Yeah, I think he sympathized
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  with me enough to stop for a selfie.
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  Was there a good crowd at that? Q&A thing, considering it was
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  free and like the star players were there, it wasn't actually
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  crazy. And then at the actual match
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  itself, the HPF park, what do you reckon the capacity is there
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  Dean? Like 1520 K.
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  Yeah, I was going to sell at 12,000, something like that.
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  Yeah, it was pretty full there. What was the atmosphere like?
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  Because they got the glory, got absolutely pummeled in there.
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  Yeah, it was. The atmosphere was actually
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  quite good, to be fair. And then the Glory fans were
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  almost just like taking the piss out of themselves, ironically
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  singing We've, we've got the ball for like the five seconds
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  that they had there and then when they would lose it, they'd
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  start singing We've lost the ball for like 10 minutes
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  straight. Also, another bit of
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  housekeeping before we get into the running news.
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  You may have seen on Instagram this week that we've created a
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  Strava group. So I'm not really too sure what
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  the purpose of this is going to be, but it might just form part
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  of the pod and we can bring everyone together.
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  Seeing as I guess most of us are running and uploading our
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  results onto Strava anyway. So we might as well get involved
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  in the group there and see the secret monster map, monster
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  mileage, mileage monsters out there.
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  Because there's no worries about being bottom of the leaderboard
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  because I'm going to be on 0 kilometers every week.
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  So get yourselves involved. Actually, guys, just talking
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  about Strava, I don't know how, but I got like was looking at
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  someone and I looked at someone who liked their post and I got
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  looking at this woman called Kim Barcelona and she's from the USA
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  and she does like 504 hundred kilometers a week.
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  So as an example of her run, she does 16.23 kilometers, average
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  pace 1128. So basically a walk for three
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  hours. And she'd do that in the morning
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  and the evening. So let's say 6-7 hours, six or
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  seven hours of activity a day. I'm like, how?
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  Like she's nothing like I don't know how.
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  Look, give her, look up, look her up.
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  It's crazy. All of her stuff is public.
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  She does crazy mileage. Maybe you could interview her?
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  She puts Jake Barclough to shame.
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  Well, Jake isn't actually in there yet, but he might.
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  He might do when he hears that he's potentially the his
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  reputation for being the mileage monster and the undisputed king
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  of Strava's on the line because Connor Dillon last week put in
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  an obscene, which isn't unusual for him, I think 242 K.
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  So that's the benchmark. The benchmarks been set.
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  Like this Kim Barcelona yesterday, 29 kilometers, 724
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  per kilometer pace, just absolutely like, what was it?
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  Her last three weeks have been 43432362.
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  Like, yeah, nuts. So the crazy people out there
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  for the year, she's done 7658 kilometers so far.
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  Where'd you find the time that? Doesn't make sense.
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  I don't know how and it's the same.
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  She lives on sort of like a peninsula, and it's like the
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  same thing over and over again. Mental straining.
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  Yeah. And to be fair, she'd probably
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  acknowledge it was actually a listener shelf who suggested
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  that we create the group, Rachel McGuinness.
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  So thanks for that. And also that just goes to show
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  that we are open to ideas and we want to kind of help the list,
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  get the listeners to help us like stay at the pod and grow
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  the pod. So if anyone's got any good
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  ideas for segments and stuff like that, then we're open to
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  it. We love your suggestions.
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  So give you a rundown of the structure for this episode
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  because of a feeling it's going to be a long one.
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  We've got the US track and field championships, we've got British
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  championships, we've got Irish nationals, we've got the
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  Sunshine Coast Marathon Festival with 1/2 in there too.
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  We've got Perth Half Marathon and we've got Beach to Beacon in
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  the US of A Following that we've got the race weeks from Dean and
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  Owen. We've got some other news in the
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  running world including line UPS at the Berlin Major Marathon,
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  more anti doping and the BIA Mile world record was set.
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  We'll go to YouTube Diaries at Howie Farm and there'll be a
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  double trouble at the end if we can get there.
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  So let's kick it off. Dean is going to tell us about
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  the US track and field results. Yeah.
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  So I think we previewed most, well most of these races, all of
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  these races last week. But yeah, they sort of as much
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  as we tried to predict who would win as we sort of pre empted
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  now, everything sort of went as you would as by the book that
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  you made a note in the show notes, Ryan, that it was
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  probably a good thing that there was no open markets on these
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  because we might have emptied the clip and not seen much come
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  back. But I think that on the first
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  night of racing it was the 10,000 meter, men's and women's,
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  10,000 meter finals. And so in the women's, it was
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  Emily Enfield, Elise Cranny and Taylor Rose 123.
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  And really it was like in that race it was like 1-2, three and
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  four. So Wayne Colati was fourth.
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  There was sort of three seconds between 1st and 3rd.
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  And just a reflection I had on these races in general, I reckon
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  apart from maybe the men's 10,000 meters, I don't think
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  that the top three. So everyone's racing here for
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  like it's American championships, but arguably more
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  importantly, it's a chance to qualify for the Tokyo World
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  Champs. And I think like apart from
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  maybe the men's 10K, there might not have been a race where the
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  top three leading into the home straight were not the top three
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  that crossed the finish line. Like there was so much change
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  and drama and excitement even in the last light in that final
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  straight, which like you think you're sort of trying to run
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  your way onto a national team and you're you're in 1st to 3rd
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  in the finishing straight and you don't finish in that order.
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  It's sort of yeah. It just talks to just what
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  quality racing. It was like it would have been
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  many countries where all of these spots when they when
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  you're talking like some of these at the caliber of these
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  athletes, it's like it was pretty exciting.
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  So yeah, women's race, it was started off with a bit of an
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  upset, I thought because Wayneie Colati was the highest ranked
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  athlete going in and pretty in quite a bit of form, but she she
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  just didn't have the legs in the last lap.
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  I was sort of a bit on easy watch in terms of working out in
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  terms of the quota, like if this affected the quota.
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  But I've realized, I don't know, maybe during or before the race
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  that there's three American athletes already in the top 27.
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  So that shouldn't, the result shouldn't have any impact on
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  Izzy's ability to qualify for the 10K.
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  But it was still a good race to watch.
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  And just a note of like how quick the standard is, like the
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  standard's 3020 and the race was won in 3140, which these
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  championship races tend to be a bit more tactical.
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  Yeah, looking at the splits, I mean, just shout out to the the
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  website because the way you can toggle through looking at 400
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  meter splits, K splits, it's like unreal, isn't it?
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  You can literally, you almost don't even need to watch the
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  race because you can see how it unfolded from the splits and it
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  shows you where the place has changed.
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  But yeah, it was pedestrian 33K. They were running 320 twos.
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  Maybe they went through in ten O 7 and then they've just slowly
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  wound it up and they've ended up well, the winner closed in a
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  254. And I'm a little bit distanced
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  from this in terms of I don't really know who Emily Enfield
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  is. And I don't know if that's on my
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  lack of knowledge side of things or if kinda she's been a bit
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  unknown in the international scene, but I've seen that she's
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  35 years old and that's her first national title at the age
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  of 35. And she made their debut at
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  nationals in 2009. So like, talk about
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  perseverance. Yeah, that's cool.
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  And then Kira d'amato 7th, I think that was a Masters record
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  and she would have won Gold Coast Half Marathon 2 when?
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  We were all there two years ago. Yeah, yeah.
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  So she's back. Ben Benny St.
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  Poster to the American Record in 2023, I think.
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  Was that right? Yeah, something like that.
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  Yeah, yeah. Is that the old plumbers as well
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  or not? Good question.
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  It probably is, yeah. It was like, was it 60?
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  Is it 66 high or? 67 or something like that as.
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  Fast. Yeah, Yeah.
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  And yeah, that cruiser Schweitzer was meant to be like
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  one of the favourites as well. But yeah, it was sort of well
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  beaten, wasn't in that top four in the last few laps.
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  And then in the men's 10K, this sort of went mostly by the book
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  in terms of. So the top three were Nico
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  Young, Grant Fisher and Graham Blanks, all with all within a
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  second of a second and a half of each other.
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  Not particularly fast, just in like 29 flat, but it was all the
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  race was all run and won in like the last mile.
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  I think they split 357 for the last mile, which is insane.
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  And the upset was sort of I don't know who would you did we
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  did we talk about who he would have tipped?
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  I would have struggled to have gone past Grant Fisher, right.
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  So like he won a medal in the five and 10K in the the Olympics
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  last year. And by all reports his training
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  really well won every race he entered at the Grand Slam track
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  mates. I can't remember what happened.
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  Did he race a Diamond League? I can't remember but.
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  He ran a mile. Did he run that mat?
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  He run that mile at London the other week, didn't he?
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  But then earlier in the season he got like 3K indoor world
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  records as well. So yeah, he's just been
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  absolutely flying. And I would I would have said
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  Fisher as well. Yeah.
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  So for Nico Young to come out and scalp him is seriously
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  impressive. Like the whole rate is just a
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  really good race like those. I think those guys had all run,
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  what, 12:44 or 12:45 recently. So they're always gonna, they're
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  gonna be hard to beat. This was funny, Dean, me and you
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  were texting because it was during the work day and well, I
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  don't know. Do you have any listeners from
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  where I've got 1? I mean, yeah, no in between
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  meetings, of course, between long busy work day.
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  So I was like watching the splits progress, the K splits
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  and I was like if I let it get to 7 then I can go and have a 10
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  minute toilet break and watch the last three games.
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  And that was where the race was, I think.
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  So we probably timed it well. Yeah, when they got going, you
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  knew Fisher hit the front. You're like, shit, we're on now.
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  Like this is it? Women's 1500 meter 1500 meters
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  was the next event. More men's and women's 1500.
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  Nikki Hilt's won. Sinclair Johnson was second and
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  Emily McKay was third. It felt like Nikki Hilt's was
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  pretty in control, like they were the best runner on the day
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  and sort of controlled the race from from what I could tell, I
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  thought. Yeah, once she made their move,
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  it looked like pretty decisive and that was the race done,
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  wasn't it, once they made their move.
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  Yeah, I think so, albeit like the the times were all pretty
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  close, but but yeah, Nikki Hills looked like the favorite and got
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  the got the dub. Scott there that they are a
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  Lululemon athlete. Has that been the case for a
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  while or because I I can't picture picture them in a Lulu
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  kiss? Yeah.
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  They have been a Lulu athlete for ages but they wear Nike
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  spikes because new them. Lulu obviously don't do spikes,
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  I think they just have one running shoe or something.
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  So I'd say they have the freedom to wear whatever they want on
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  their feet, but when the racing that they were like later.
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  That's the drive, black the spikes out so they're OK to just
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  wear them. No, I think it's OK to wear
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  them. Yeah.
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  That's cool. And then talking, Yeah.
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  And then into the men's race. Jonah Kovich was the winner,
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  Ethan Strand second, and Cole Hocker was third.
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  Notably, Hobbs Kessler and Jared Nagus were 4th and 5th, and my
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  Smokey was 6. Gary Martin.
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  Yeah. I mean, the whole, the whole
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  final was pretty stacked, even though, did you?
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  I think they were running like 332 or something, even in the
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  heats just to get into the final.
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  Like the depth was ridiculous. And that race was, yeah, so, so
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  good to watch. Did you see the Let's Run
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  Instagram? They shared some snippets from,
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  I think the Let's Run threads about no Goose doing a Yacob
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  with just sort of leading everyone, you know, just
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  basically being the pacemaker in a championship race and leading
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  them through to really good times and getting out kicked.
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  It's one of them, isn't it? Where like is it hindsight says
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  it's of it was obviously a stupid tactic or has he like
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  been successful at it up until now?
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  So he's he's went with what he knows.
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  Like it's hard, isn't it? Yeah, I feel like maybe pacing
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  takes an edge out of your performance, but it feels like
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  the times you get it wrong are just when you don't have
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  anywhere to go in the final straight.
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  Like David Rudicha won the Olympics in 2012 front running
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  and ran a world record and just dominated.
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  I think if you just go out slightly beyond what you're
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  capable of, which is probably the risk, right?
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  You're probably so full of adrenaline and you're trying to
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  gauge effort and it feels so effortless.
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  And you're just so excited in such a big championship race
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  that it's hard to ensure that you have just that little bit
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  left in reserve for the final 100 meters.
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  But quite the shock. So like, Negus was, what, 3rd at
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  the Olympics? And now Kant doesn't even get a
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  chance to race at the following World Championships despite I
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  think he broke a indoor world record earlier in the year.
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  So the American like, distance scene is just insane.
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  It's it's yeah, it's pretty cool.
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  Yeah, well, he just recently got closed on by Laros, didn't he?
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  From like Miles you would have thought maybe would he have re
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  evaluated his tactics on the back of that but apparently not.
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  And did did one of you guys tip Ethan Strand as one of the smoky
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  pigs? What does smoky mean?
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  Oh, like like a dark horse? Like a Ruffy Ruffy.
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  Yeah, the Australian slang, huh? Yeah, what would you?
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  How would you if you? Were have I'd say dark horse,
• 20:58
  dark horse or like 1 to watch here.
• 21:00
  This Jonah coach, like I feel like he came out of nowhere, but
• 21:03
  he's I think he was an 800 guy looking at his like past few
• 21:07
  results. He's round.
• 21:09
  Treat, do you want me to tee you up?
• 21:11
  I'll tee you up with something and you can you can take off on
• 21:14
  it because I've seen that he's he's based in Kenya.
• 21:18
  No comment. Very good results from him.
• 21:24
  Yeah, because Neil, Neil Gurley, who they both run from drama and
• 21:29
  someone was asking girly at the British champs like do you train
• 21:32
  with him? And he said no, he's based in
• 21:33
  Kenya. Going on him, I'll keep my mouth
• 21:36
  shut. If I talk, I get in trouble.
• 21:41
  Jose Marine, you know what I mean?
• 21:43
  But not to be fair, he's run like 144 for 800 loads of times.
• 21:48
  And then May 2025, he ran a 331. He ran a 143 at the end of May
• 21:55
  in the 800. But yeah.
• 21:58
  It's hard to keep up because wasn't the guy who won the
• 22:01
  London Diamond League. He was a coach as well.
• 22:03
  Fanwell, Coach. I'm actually looking here.
• 22:05
  In 2022 he was disqualified in the World Championships, but I
• 22:11
  don't know why. I should probably look this up
• 22:13
  before. This is mad though.
• 22:16
  So like, if you look at people will still say that Cole Hawker
• 22:20
  is the favorite to win gold in Tokyo and he's been beaten by
• 22:23
  two people, not just two people, but two people from his own
• 22:27
  country. So like, the depth in this 1500
• 22:30
  is absolutely obscene. Yeah, and one kids just
• 22:35
  graduated college, scalp the Olympic reigning Olympic golden
• 22:40
  bronze medalists. Like he's just gone running hot
• 22:43
  like college athletics to that. It's pretty cool.
• 22:45
  It's pretty cool. And that happens like, I don't
• 22:48
  know, it talks to how good the US college system is, right?
• 22:51
  Yeah, so that Ethan Strands the guy who was in the B race at
• 22:54
  that mile a few weeks back, wasn't it?
• 22:56
  He ran like 3-4 E 8 maybe there or something but in the B race
• 23:00
  like what the hell is going on? So Jonah Kovich was disqualified
• 23:05
  in the 2022 World Championships in the 800 meters for, like,
• 23:10
  jostling or obstruction. So yeah.
• 23:14
  Least he's clean. Yeah, absolutely.
• 23:17
  Women's 800. Hold on.
• 23:21
  I'm going to need your help here, Owen.
• 23:24
  No, Give it a go. Give it a go.
• 23:25
  I. Don't want to Rasheen.
• 23:30
  Rasheen. Yeah, OK, not too bad.
• 23:34
  I've heard of these girls before, Willis.
• 23:36
  Maggie Congdon and Sage Herde Clicker.
• 23:40
  We've heard of Sage Herde Clicker, right?
• 23:42
  That's always say athlete. But yeah, I think like I think
• 23:49
  you mentioned in the show notes, Ryan, I think MU who who
• 23:52
  famously fell right in the US Olympic trials last year when
• 23:59
  she was one of the favourites to win an Olympic medal and
• 24:03
  therefore didn't progress into to the Olympics last year, she
• 24:07
  didn't make it through the semis, right?
• 24:10
  And again, just like ridiculously, even ridiculously
• 24:12
  stacked final, like last place in the final was 202 low and
• 24:17
  first was 159 low. Like the whole all 8 within 2
• 24:21
  seconds of each other. I feel like that sage her to
• 24:24
  click has been like around get qualifying for teams so pretty
• 24:27
  cool that she made it. Yeah, feel like I'm familiar
• 24:30
  with NIA Aikens or NIA Atkins and Raven Rogers as well, and
• 24:36
  Addison Wiley potentially, who are all three of the names who
• 24:39
  have missed out there. So yeah, very close race and.
• 24:44
  So NIA Aikens quick one on her. So I think last year she would
• 24:49
  have ran with Brooks and then she had a bust up with the coach
• 24:53
  or something. So then she was obviously
• 24:57
  wearing like unbranded stuff. So I was wondering like where
• 25:00
  has she gone? Like what brand has she gone
• 25:02
  with? So it seems like she's gone with
• 25:03
  Hoka, which is which is a nice choice.
• 25:06
  Good shoes. Side point, but when you look at
• 25:09
  these line UPS now, it's it's good that like if you look at
• 25:12
  all of those athletes, you've got a New Balance scale, Nike,
• 25:15
  OAC, Hoker, Bandit. I'm not sure what that is.
• 25:18
  Brooks and Adidas, like literally everyone's
• 25:21
  represented. It just shows like all the
• 25:23
  brands are level. Men's 800 could have been like
• 25:27
  the race of the championships. Maybe the winner was Donovan
• 25:33
  Brazier. Second was Cooper Luton House
• 25:38
  and 3rd was Bryce Hopple. Notably 4th was Josh Hoey who
• 25:44
  was the world champion indoors for that 800 earlier in the year
• 25:48
  and lighting it up over that the diamond leagues and stuff.
• 25:52
  Have you seen this race back, Dean?
• 25:54
  Yeah. It's insane, isn't it?
• 25:56
  Yeah, I'm sorry. I should mention the times.
• 25:59
  So like, because I think what's the auto standard for the men's
• 26:03
  like 144.5, which is I think pretty ridiculous.
• 26:08
  Top 7 all ran under that time. And yeah, the top three were
• 26:13
  under 142.5. So I think, I think so 2nd, 2nd
• 26:20
  place. Have you seen this, Owen?
• 26:22
  Do you know how old second is? No how old I've seen him but I
• 26:26
  don't know what age is. Have a guess. 2122. 16.
• 26:33
  What? Yeah, have you seen the size of
• 26:36
  him? No.
• 26:38
  He's pretty light, he's pretty well put together for a 16 year
• 26:41
  old. Do you have you seen Ryan?
• 26:43
  You see the finishing photo when he puts his arms up as he's
• 26:45
  crossing the line. Yeah, he's a bit of a tank.
• 26:47
  Yeah. So there's there's three pieces
• 26:49
  of information on on that results image equally as
• 26:53
  baffling as each other. So it's got for his brand that
• 26:56
  says unattached and then his age says 16 and then over underneath
• 27:00
  his time it says under 18 world record.
• 27:04
  And I think he he broke that world record.
• 27:06
  So it's under 18 and he's 16. So it's he's not even like close
• 27:10
  to going into the next age category by like 3 seconds.
• 27:14
  Wait, so he's born in 2009? Oh my God.
• 27:23
  Yeah, he ran a three and a half second PB, which is pretty solid
• 27:28
  for an 800m runner. And he ran it pretty even, like
• 27:33
  he ran a 51st lap and then a 51 second lap.
• 27:37
  He closed like an absolute train, like the race had broken
• 27:40
  away from him. I admit there was 3 or 4 off the
• 27:43
  front. Yeah, I heard AI heard an
• 27:45
  interview and he mentioned that like in like his middle school
• 27:50
  days, he was his tactic was to go around like 200 or two, 250.
• 27:56
  And so he sort of waited until around then before he sort of
• 27:59
  moved and he just flew around. He was like in lane 3 in the
• 28:02
  finishing straight, just flew home.
• 28:05
  I think he's part of this, this new Nike group for kids.
• 28:08
  Scary. I mean, he's a kid.
• 28:11
  Yeah, the gap that he closed, even at like 1120 or so to go,
• 28:15
  he was about 10 meters off the back, wasn't he?
• 28:18
  And then he genuinely just like destroyed them up that home
• 28:21
  straight. But like we should mention as
• 28:23
  well, Donovan Brazier, To be fair, like 6 months ago he
• 28:27
  wouldn't have been a name in anyone's mouth because you
• 28:30
  wouldn't have known he was even training, let alone racing.
• 28:33
  And then he's just come back and put like 3 or 4 performances
• 28:37
  together and managed to PB and win champs like he's former
• 28:42
  world champ in 2019 was it? Yeah, He won the world champs in
• 28:45
  2019 and then apparently ran about a total of a month of
• 28:49
  running in two years. And now it's back in this sort
• 28:52
  of shape. And like, I think what that the
• 28:55
  kid that finished second the time he ran would have been good
• 28:57
  enough to have won Donovan Brazier 2019 World Champs final,
• 29:01
  which was a championship record at the time or something.
• 29:04
  So like, not like Donovan Brazier just had to get back to
• 29:07
  his old best. He's had to get better because
• 29:09
  the eight hundreds got faster and faster.
• 29:11
  So yeah, ridiculous. Like another ridiculous race.
• 29:16
  And obviously we've talked a lot about Josh Howie this year
• 29:19
  because he's been doing so well in the Diamond League.
• 29:21
  So sad to see him back and forth.
• 29:23
  But I think maybe does he still have a chance if he can win?
• 29:27
  Because there's the wild card spot for winning the Diamond
• 29:30
  League final, isn't there? Oh, I did hear that mention.
• 29:33
  I didn't understood understand what that meant.
• 29:35
  Is that real? Yeah, so like if you reign in
• 29:37
  champion, the maybe Olympics or definitely in the in the
• 29:41
  previous World Championships and then there's like the Diamond
• 29:44
  League final winner in each event gets a wild card as well.
• 29:48
  So that's why. And Nagusk gets a second bite at
• 29:51
  the cherry. Well, that's cool.
• 29:53
  Well, when's that? That must be soon then.
• 29:55
  Is that the Zurich 1? So yeah, it must be like end of
• 29:58
  this month. I think there's two more diamond
• 30:00
  leagues. Yeah, there's 2 coming up.
• 30:02
  Lausanne and Cialcer must be one of them, to be fair.
• 30:07
  And then moving on to the men's 5K, the winner sort of, I think
• 30:13
  maybe had a bit of a point to prove after getting dusted in
• 30:16
  the 1500, was Cole Hocker. Second was Grant Fisher, third
• 30:20
  Nico Young. Yeah, notable 4th, 5th and 6th
• 30:24
  Drew, Hunter, Cooper Tier and Parker Wolf. 200 200 was my
• 30:29
  Smokey. Hey man, I don't know if you've
• 30:32
  seen it, but like I think if he put himself, if he, I don't know
• 30:36
  if it was a bit of like lack of self belief, but he was maybe 6
• 30:39
  going into like around that final bend and just maybe left
• 30:43
  like a yard or two and was closing.
• 30:46
  You know, Vanika Youngblatt was closing in on 3rd and just ran
• 30:49
  out of real estate. I feel like if he was just a
• 30:51
  smidge closer, he would have qualified because he was not
• 30:54
  fast. It was like 1326 was the winning
• 30:57
  time, which but I know like that Drew Hunter was maybe he hadn't
• 31:01
  posted any times, right? But he was trying to focus on
• 31:03
  winning races. Remember we were talking about
• 31:05
  that the other week And yeah, he looked, he looked the best of
• 31:08
  the rest and was was gunning home for a spot.
• 31:10
  So which was cool. So yeah, feel for him a little.
• 31:13
  Bit I've seen someone pose the question, is Carl Hawker a medal
• 31:17
  chance in the 5000 if he decides to double because of this?
• 31:22
  But I think now because this he's won this in 1326.
• 31:26
  So he's been set up. Well, I think he from he from
• 31:29
  ran it to be fair. So that's not his fault.
• 31:33
  But he was allowed to close like a train because it was quite
• 31:38
  slow. Whereas if Finger Britain and
• 31:41
  all the other guys, now they know that potentially a 1500
• 31:44
  metre guy is going to be in the race, they're not going to let
• 31:46
  it be slow, are they? It's going to be like 1245 or
• 31:49
  something. And I couldn't end up eating my
• 31:51
  words. But I don't think he'd be able
• 31:53
  to close off a 1245 pace. Yeah I agree if it's like fast
• 31:58
  then I think the other guys are stronger where if it's slow then
• 32:01
  he's definitely a chance. I wonder if he will double.
• 32:04
  Do you reckon he does the 15 five?
• 32:06
  Well, here's another interesting narrative that might guide that
• 32:10
  decision. If Hocker double S then misses
• 32:17
  out, but if Hocker decides to just do the 1500 then the
• 32:22
  position opens up to the next person down the list which is
• 32:25
  cupertier with the next ranking well.
• 32:28
  He's the qualifying standard. So Drew Hunter doesn't have the
• 32:30
  world qualifying standard, but Cooper does.
• 32:33
  So that could be an awkward household that's.
• 32:36
  So interesting. You'd imagine you'd let him do
• 32:38
  it, but I don't know. These, they're ruthless, these
• 32:41
  competitors, aren't they? I think I was listening to the
• 32:43
  Coffee Club podcast and I think they're on about coupe tier was
• 32:47
  like bang on about doing the double Hawker.
• 32:50
  Yeah, sorry, sorry. Hawker was on about doing the
• 32:52
  double. Yeah, the 15 five double.
• 32:54
  So that's so because I feel like Cooper has been knocking on the
• 32:57
  door for ages and like he's such a good athlete.
• 32:59
  It's just America is so stacked. That's just so unlucky.
• 33:03
  Thing you would say though, to go towards the Hawker gold medal
• 33:07
  in the 1500 shout, if he's able to beat Grant Fisher and Nico
• 33:11
  Young, who are two of the best 5K runners in the world, over
• 33:14
  5K. And he's got six weeks to now
• 33:18
  add some specificity and speed stuff to his 15, but then he's
• 33:23
  going to be hard to stop. But I just can't wait to see
• 33:27
  Jacob back in the mix of all these things.
• 33:30
  Yeah, hopefully he's fit and firing.
• 33:32
  Sure he is. Women's 5K Shelby Houlihan got
• 33:36
  the win at least. Cranny was in 2nd and Josette
• 33:39
  Andrews was third. Wayne Collaty, unlucky, very
• 33:44
  unlucky to finish fourth again. So yeah, the winning times were.
• 33:49
  So it was all it was again, it was all pretty, pretty close,
• 33:52
  albeit they were all sort of sprinting towards the line.
• 33:54
  Shelby had a bit of a gap with maybe a hundreds ago looked like
• 33:57
  they like just closed a bit quicker than than the rest it it
• 34:01
  seemed. But there was certainly a few in
• 34:03
  it sort of going into the bell. And yeah, whoever had the
• 34:08
  quickest turn of speed got the win.
• 34:10
  Did you have any comments on the winner or anyone known?
• 34:13
  No comments if I talk I guess. This is kind of like what you
• 34:18
  don't really want to see, isn't it?
• 34:20
  Like, I don't know, I mean, if she's back racing, okay, you can
• 34:26
  allow it. But then making the first
• 34:28
  national team straight away again, it's like, oh come on,
• 34:31
  it's a bit of a kick in the teeth.
• 34:33
  It's bullshit if you get caught for doping you should not be
• 34:35
  allowed to run again in a competitive scenario.
• 34:38
  You can do your own fun run but because you got got doping like
• 34:41
  you're after getting the benefits from the drugs like
• 34:43
  it's bullshit she shouldn't be allowed run.
• 34:45
  Mic drop. Yeah.
• 34:48
  And then now she's probably sat there all like all arrogant and
• 34:52
  stuff because she's like her prove, just, I don't know what
• 34:54
  she'd prove anyone wrong about, but she'll be on her pedestal
• 34:57
  over the fact that she's now back in the team and like,
• 35:00
  that's all in the past. But I don't know, it's a tough
• 35:04
  one to swallow. I actually, I had a kebab for
• 35:07
  dinner, so you know, it could be any of us, so we should be
• 35:09
  careful. And that's the other thing she
• 35:13
  hasn't, she's shown no remorse ever over it, has she?
• 35:16
  She hasn't even like come out and owned it.
• 35:18
  And like, that would help it be a bit easier if like at least
• 35:22
  she was apologetic and said, yeah, I take full
• 35:26
  accountability, but she like denied it the whole time with
• 35:30
  some bizarre excuse. She's always denied it, which
• 35:33
  is, and then again, like the coffee club lads, you'd like to
• 35:36
  trust them and they're friends with people around her who said
• 35:39
  she like she didn't do it, but it's just it doesn't add up the
• 35:43
  amount of shit that was in her system.
• 35:45
  Like look, I don't know. I think like Kenya is rotten,
• 35:49
  but I'm pretty sure it's going on everywhere just because
• 35:52
  Kenya, the third world country, like they really do get nailed,
• 35:55
  but definitely going on everywhere.
• 35:56
  So she actually had an interest in interview after this as well
• 36:00
  because she was I think she started like calling out while
• 36:03
  they're like World Athletics open agency.
• 36:06
  And she's kinda like almost pointing the finger at other
• 36:09
  athletes as well and saying like, well, you don't.
• 36:13
  It goes on everywhere and you're not kind of catching it.
• 36:15
  Which, like, the narrative just isn't really building very well,
• 36:18
  is it? No, like you'd look at, so you'd
• 36:23
  presume like the medical situation in Kenya isn't as good
• 36:26
  as the medical situation in like the US or let's say Ireland or
• 36:31
  Australia. So I feel like you could easily
• 36:34
  like the more the Western countries are way more equipped
• 36:38
  to get away with all this shit of shit.
• 36:40
  Like they're more advanced than Kent.
• 36:42
  Well, you'd like to presume so, yeah.
• 36:45
  You just hate to think what's actually going on.
• 36:47
  And I wish there was a way to just like, like, actually find
• 36:50
  out. I don't know.
• 36:52
  But yeah, that was the end of the USA Track and field chance
• 36:56
  all. Right, then moving on to the UK
• 37:00
  Athletics Championships, which were also held over this
• 37:02
  weekend. I think we made well.
• 37:04
  I made a bit of an error last weekend thinking that they were
• 37:06
  the weekend after so rather than a preview I have a review.
• 37:12
  So they were held in Birmingham in the Alexander Stadium and the
• 37:16
  first race with the women's 5000 meters was won by Hannah Nuttall
• 37:20
  which I think is the UK is like primary 5000m runner on the
• 37:25
  women's side of things at the minute.
• 37:27
  So no surprise to see her when she ran 1546.
• 37:32
  Second was in the Aware in 1547 and 3rd was in Fitzgerald in
• 37:38
  1548. So incredibly tight finish.
• 37:42
  But the way the UK does their selection is a little bit
• 37:44
  different to the US. So if you have the world Affleck
• 37:48
  standard and you finish top two, then you're an auto choice.
• 37:52
  But if you finish top 2 and you don't have the standard, you're
• 37:56
  not an auto choice. You have now a period up until
• 37:59
  the end of August to go and chase a standard or then for the
• 38:04
  third spot that becomes available.
• 38:07
  It's selectors discretion if you're in the world rankings
• 38:10
  quota, but you don't have the standard.
• 38:13
  So it's a little bit messy, to be fair.
• 38:15
  I like the way they wear their club vests, like in America they
• 38:18
  wear their brands like so Nike on Adidas, whatever.
• 38:22
  But here they wear their like club singlets, which is I think
• 38:25
  it's kill to see. And that India Weir, who came
• 38:28
  second, she's recently signed with Team Macau, the Hoka group
• 38:33
  in England. So she'll be part of that
• 38:34
  YouTube channel now, which is cool.
• 38:37
  Yeah. So for this one, I know Hannah
• 38:39
  Nuttall's got the standard and who was first and the Galen
• 38:42
  third in Fitzgerald also has the standard.
• 38:45
  So I think that means that they'll both go because Hannah
• 38:49
  will get the auto selection and Inns will get like the
• 38:53
  discretionary one for the third spot.
• 38:55
  Now with India, I think she would.
• 38:58
  I'm not sure if she has the standard or not, but if not,
• 39:00
  she'll have to go and chase it or hope that the selectors are
• 39:04
  kind. Because there are other girls
• 39:06
  who do have the standard, like Megan Keith, the Scottish girl,
• 39:10
  and there's a girl called Melissa Courtney Bryant, but I
• 39:13
  think she might be potentially primarily a 1500m runner.
• 39:17
  Did Megan Keith run? I don't think so.
• 39:20
  She was fit. I'm not sure why.
• 39:22
  She ran that racing cork and the racing cork that I was at and
• 39:25
  she was fit. I have two, two selection
• 39:28
  periods as well. Or like where they announced the
• 39:31
  team, which is weird. So like today they will announce
• 39:35
  the first part of the team, which is those who have the
• 39:37
  standard and they finished in the top 2.
• 39:40
  And then at the end of August, they'll kind of finish it off by
• 39:44
  seeing who else has run the standard in the meantime.
• 39:47
  Come here the way I wish. We're probably gone to it later
• 39:50
  at the 1500s, but the way the UK do, they're like qualifiers,
• 39:55
  like the small queue and like fastest loser and all that shit
• 39:58
  is sort of bullshit as well. Yeah, well, go on.
• 40:04
  Do you mean in terms of qualifying for national finals
• 40:06
  or the selection policy? So from the heat to the final.
• 40:10
  Yeah. Would you just prefer more in
• 40:13
  terms of just the top number and every height, so then you don't
• 40:16
  have to worry about big Q, little Q?
• 40:18
  Yeah, because we'll talk about in 1500, but like, the first
• 40:22
  heat was so super slow. So like the fastest losers all
• 40:25
  came from the second heat. So like if you run first in the
• 40:28
  first heat, you're at total disadvantage.
• 40:29
  Yeah, yeah, I think the in the first heat 4 went through just
• 40:33
  from the top four, and then the second heat 8 of them went
• 40:36
  through because they are all the fastest losers.
• 40:38
  Well, we'll do the 1500 now then, seen as we're there.
• 40:41
  So we'll start with the men's because that's where I think
• 40:45
  unless it happened in the women's two, there was this
• 40:47
  calamity over the fastest losers.
• 40:49
  So in the final, in the end, Neil Gurley won in a 347, which
• 40:54
  if you compare that to the time in the US was 3/30 is incredibly
• 41:00
  slow. Like they're literally jogging
• 41:01
  for like 2 laps. All three of us could have been
• 41:05
  there in the pack for a couple of laps just chilling.
• 41:08
  And Elliott Giles was second in 347 as well, just got out
• 41:13
  kicked. So they both have the standard
• 41:16
  so they will both go. And then the guy in 3rd was
• 41:19
  Samuel Churig. Now he's done a lot of the front
• 41:22
  running so it was nice to see him hold on for a medal, but
• 41:25
  also a shame that he kind of didn't end up getting one of
• 41:29
  those top 2 spots. But I don't know if you have
• 41:32
  seen this race, it's actually quite funny because it's
• 41:35
  basically a one lap there, not at the end and from the field
• 41:39
  because like Whiteman's missing and Kerr's missing and George
• 41:42
  Mills are missing. You know that Giles and Girly
• 41:45
  are like the star athletes in there and they obviously know it
• 41:48
  themselves. So once they kind of get going,
• 41:51
  it's between those two. And Girly was boxed in for a lot
• 41:55
  of the race and you're thinking, shit, is he going to be able to
• 41:57
  get himself out? Like he might have messed up?
• 42:00
  And he does anyway. And he just runs over Elliot
• 42:02
  like on the line or he's he's passing him like maybe 10 meters
• 42:06
  to go. And Giles in a bit of a panic,
• 42:09
  stopped running out to his right.
• 42:12
  And V is into his lane. And you see Gailey give him like
• 42:16
  a bit of a signal, like, what the hell are you doing?
• 42:19
  And then they have like a little bit of words afterwards.
• 42:22
  It's it's like almost refreshing to see like a bit of rivalry and
• 42:26
  a bit of intensity. But yeah, it was.
• 42:28
  I don't think Giles was in the right leg to try and cut him off
• 42:31
  like that. Did you guys see the the 200
• 42:34
  meters in the US trial in the US world chance trials?
• 42:39
  You said that bit of pushing after that as well.
• 42:41
  Yeah, bit of space involved there.
• 42:43
  It makes me wonder though, because it's Lyles.
• 42:45
  Like is it engineered or not? It's good either way.
• 42:48
  He's such a that was like, I don't know what a douchebag.
• 42:52
  Do you see what he did? I didn't.
• 42:54
  He basically like caught him with like what he was second
• 42:59
  with and then got in front with about 2030 meters to go.
• 43:02
  Just turns and just stares at him as he runs over the top of
• 43:04
  him and just stares him down and then keeps staring him down
• 43:07
  after he crosses the line and so then cops a shove and then
• 43:11
  didn't like it. Yeah, Bednarak launched him,
• 43:14
  didn't he? And then he goes, he goes over
• 43:16
  afterwards. So like try and shake his hand
• 43:19
  and Lyle's like just stands there for like 3 seconds doesn't
• 43:22
  he? Ever so awkward.
• 43:24
  Yeah. And then something like they
• 43:25
  carried on in their interview. Did you see this the mic?
• 43:29
  I haven't said yeah, I haven't heard it, but I heard it
• 43:32
  referenced. Do you know what they said?
• 43:34
  Yeah, I think, I can't remember which way around who says it's a
• 43:38
  who, but one of them says like, oh, I didn't know we had the
• 43:41
  problem. Like if I knew, I thought you
• 43:43
  would call me. But this isn't like during the
• 43:46
  interview. It's kind of like when the guy's
• 43:47
  setting it up and the mic just picks it up.
• 43:51
  Which is fair enough. Like, I mean, but there's one
• 43:53
  person creating a problem, then the other person just reacted
• 43:57
  because it's probably fired up. Quick one with the with the 1500
• 44:01
  now in the UK. So Josh Kerr gets the wild card
• 44:05
  then Neil Gurley and Elliott Giles finish 1/2.
• 44:10
  So did they get picked or like George Mel's Jake Whiteman, like
• 44:13
  what happens there now? Yeah, so Giles and Gailey will
• 44:16
  be the second and third pick behind Care, but because is a
• 44:21
  wild card pick, that means they'll have 4 spots.
• 44:23
  So there's one more spot should the selectors choose to use it
• 44:27
  because you know, they don't always fill the team's GB, but
• 44:31
  because it's either white men or Mills, likely they will use it.
• 44:36
  It's just kind of whether Mills decides to double or not.
• 44:40
  So transition into the men's 5000 meters then.
• 44:43
  The big favorite here ahead of this was Josh Kerr choosing to
• 44:46
  run the 5000 rather than his traditional 1500.
• 44:50
  And he delivered on that favouritism, winning in 1344
• 44:55
  from Jack Kavana in second in 1353, Rory Leonard third in
• 45:00
  1354. So I don't know if any of you
• 45:04
  managed to see this race. I think I was trying to set you
• 45:07
  up for an A dodgy VPN to get the iPlayer up wasn't I Dean?
• 45:12
  You were, you were, you were competing against the the F1 was
• 45:16
  live as well, so we had a juggling a few things last
• 45:19
  night. Yeah, so they were, they were
• 45:21
  bunched for a while because it was very slow.
• 45:24
  And the commentators are rightly pointing out like, what are
• 45:28
  these guys doing? Like Josh Cares, one of the best
• 45:31
  1500 meter runners in the world, why would you not like try and
• 45:34
  hair him from the start in the 5000?
• 45:37
  And then after I think about 3K or with 1600 to go, Rory Leonard
• 45:43
  decides to kind of inject some pace runs off the front and Care
• 45:47
  was like the only one who went with him at the time.
• 45:51
  And then Care let Leonard have maybe 2 laps or 600 meters and
• 45:57
  it looked like Rory Leonard was moving at the time.
• 45:59
  To be fair, you can't tell whether like Josh Kerr's hair
• 46:02
  and or not, but you can tell that like there's a change of
• 46:06
  gear. And then when Care decides to go
• 46:08
  past them, you see quite clearly he wasn't hurting at all because
• 46:12
  he just gaps Rory Leonard like straight away, like 10 meters,
• 46:15
  20 meters, 30 meters. And then Rory Leonard's
• 46:20
  isolated. And that's why the guy, Jack
• 46:22
  Cavana ends up coming in over the top of him for second.
• 46:26
  But Josh cares. He's celebrating and waving to
• 46:29
  the crowd with like 170 to go, 160 to go.
• 46:33
  I think he'd done it first. And then he's like, oh, shit,
• 46:37
  like what we're doing? Like I've committed to this now.
• 46:39
  So he just does it like the whole way.
• 46:43
  Steve Ovett, the 80s type. Carry on.
• 46:46
  Yeah, he's not lacking any confidence, the guy, is he?
• 46:49
  Did you mention what he ran his last?
• 46:50
  Was it last? His fast clothes wasn't.
• 46:54
  It Oh yeah, it was a 231 think by himself.
• 46:58
  And it was quite windy as well. That's.
• 47:01
  Fast you can always. This is a weird point, but you
• 47:04
  can always tell with him when he gets in shape because you see
• 47:07
  sometimes like mid season if he does like a YouTube video or
• 47:10
  like does some sort of sponsorship and he's doing a
• 47:13
  promo. Not that he gets fast obviously,
• 47:17
  but his face kind of fills up a little bit.
• 47:19
  And then when you see him turn up to these main meats, he's
• 47:21
  like absolutely shredded to the bone, like veins popping out of
• 47:25
  his head and jaw chiseled. So that's when you know he's
• 47:29
  ready to go because he takes his diet very seriously as well
• 47:32
  think, doesn't he? Yeah, I remember hearing him
• 47:34
  talk about he had his own personal chef to knee at one
• 47:36
  point. Yeah, I think he.
• 47:39
  Owens reading a chapter of the chef's book at the minute,
• 47:42
  aren't you? It's half two here, so I'm just
• 47:46
  preparing some lunch. So you do a sort of food
• 47:50
  segment. Yeah, Owens escapades whilst
• 47:53
  recording, almost getting its own segments.
• 47:56
  Go and tell us what you're doing.
• 47:57
  So macros. Well, I'm training twice today,
• 48:01
  so I'm having three boiled eggs, a bagel with some ham and
• 48:07
  chorizo. Guys, treat so is like just a
• 48:11
  little spice you need in your life.
• 48:14
  Apparently there's protein in it.
• 48:16
  I don't know. But yeah, sort of my my standard
• 48:20
  lunch on, let's say, a double training day.
• 48:22
  And so yeah, that's what I'm currently doing.
• 48:27
  Delightful, and for the listeners who aren't privileged
• 48:29
  enough to be witnessing this, we will literally see an Owen
• 48:32
  crackers eggs over the bowl before.
• 48:36
  Has to be done Fuel. But yeah, no, Josh Kerr made a
• 48:40
  big deal out of his diet because I think he dropped like 4 KG or
• 48:45
  something. He was normally low 70s.
• 48:47
  And then before the Olympics he done really well and I think he
• 48:50
  got down to like high 60s. And like when you think about
• 48:53
  it, like he's running what, let's say like 4 KG, so let's
• 48:57
  say 4 bags of sugar, like he's not carrying them anymore.
• 49:00
  So it can make a big difference. It's just doing it right without
• 49:04
  like getting injured or getting sick or being still able to
• 49:08
  train at high quality. And so, yeah, the personal chef
• 49:11
  would really out in that situation.
• 49:14
  There's like that fine invisible line which you don't know when
• 49:18
  you're going to cross the threshold of like being too
• 49:21
  depleted and going too far with like the weight loss, because
• 49:24
  obviously being light is an advantage, but they can also get
• 49:28
  to a point where you just weak from it, isn't it?
• 49:30
  Yeah, absolutely. And you don't really know you've
• 49:32
  crossed the line until you've crossed it if you get me.
• 49:36
  And like you've gotten injured or you're sick.
• 49:38
  So yeah, you just, you're better off over fueling if anything, if
• 49:42
  you're not really sure. Great.
• 49:46
  I did actually see in his interview afterwards he was
• 49:49
  asked or could the 5000 interest you in the future, would you be
• 49:53
  interested in going up the distances?
• 49:56
  And he said his answer was like a bit mad, to be fair, he said,
• 49:59
  or there's not enough money in it for the work that you have to
• 50:02
  put in to get fit for the 5000. And like, I guess it's no
• 50:06
  surprise, like, you know, that the 1500s like the premier
• 50:09
  events. But that obviously must be
• 50:12
  reflected in like the contracts and the endorsements that they
• 50:15
  get. Women's 800 meters.
• 50:17
  Then in the absence of Keely Hodgkinson and Phoebe Gill and
• 50:21
  Georgia Hunter Bell reigns supreme in A15953, Gemma Riki
• 50:26
  second to flat .97 and Abby Ives third in 201.11.
• 50:33
  So this was quite straightforward.
• 50:37
  Once Georgia Bell kind of like applied herself to this.
• 50:39
  She was like the standout athlete in the field and you
• 50:42
  expected her to win and she did that.
• 50:45
  Gemma Riki kind of LED it out for most of it.
• 50:47
  But then coming up into the last 201 hundred, her legs look like
• 50:51
  they'd went a little bit and she'd done well.
• 50:55
  I don't know. I don't want to say to hold on
• 50:56
  for a second because she was quite comfortably second, but
• 50:59
  then the girl in third kind of closed up quite hard and then it
• 51:03
  looked like, which was quite bizarre.
• 51:05
  She almost like took her foot off the gas.
• 51:06
  The girl in 3rd says she's only 21 and like Gemma Ricci's been
• 51:11
  around for a while and made like quite a few teams and there's a
• 51:14
  bit of a big name. So I don't know if she almost
• 51:16
  like shit herself and was like, I don't want to pass her like
• 51:20
  this. This isn't meant to happen.
• 51:21
  It looked like she genuinely could have if she wanted to, but
• 51:25
  and know how it looks on the outside, she could have been
• 51:27
  like hair and so much on the inside.
• 51:29
  So I'm sure she was made-up with that.
• 51:32
  But again, in the interview afterwards, some good, good
• 51:34
  insight from Georgia Hunter Bell.
• 51:36
  She said she hasn't decided yet if she's going to do the 1500 or
• 51:40
  the 800. She's going to race one of each
• 51:43
  in the upcoming Diamond Leagues and decide after that.
• 51:47
  Which in your opinion is the more competitive?
• 51:49
  Like what would you be better off having a medal chance in?
• 51:52
  Like I think the 1500 is stacked with Kippie, a gun and all that
• 51:54
  sort of stuff. So if she's after a medal, you
• 51:57
  nearly go for the 800. Yeah, I mean, I think she
• 52:00
  wouldn't say this, but she trains in the same group as
• 52:03
  Keely Hodgkinson, doesn't she? So she might almost be waiting
• 52:06
  to see what sort of shape Keely's in when she comes back
• 52:10
  and then decide from there. Because it's like, if Keely's
• 52:13
  fully fit, then that's probably the gold medal there.
• 52:16
  But if she comes back and finishes like 4th or 5th or runs
• 52:20
  two or three or something, then maybe she'd be like, I'm a
• 52:23
  decent chance here I should gamble on the 800 men's 800
• 52:27
  meters was front run by Max Bergen, which if you've seen him
• 52:31
  race before, would be no surprise to hear that he front
• 52:34
  run it because he's he's quite tall and he's quite broad.
• 52:38
  He's a bit of a big unit. He just hits the front and you'd
• 52:41
  think that the guys behind them get a good six.
• 52:43
  It'll take a lot of the wind, but he's just so strong.
• 52:46
  So like he actually manages the gap.
• 52:48
  The rest of them like pretty early, which I guess is key.
• 52:52
  He's not really giving them a set.
• 52:54
  So he's around 143.92, second was 10 and Kroger in in 14556
• 53:02
  and 3rd Alex Botterell in 14557. So again in here there's a
• 53:08
  couple of names who missed out on the place in Ben Patterson,
• 53:12
  whose end up finishing ninth, is someone who's made UK teams
• 53:15
  before. He was.
• 53:17
  He was. Ben Patterson was turned in the
• 53:18
  Olympics, wasn't he? Yeah, I think, yeah, he meddled.
• 53:22
  Yeah. Which is great, but he he's
• 53:24
  really injured this year. Yeah, he's only just made his
• 53:27
  comeback now, so cutting a bit of slack to be fair.
• 53:29
  But I don't know if that means like his selection chances are
• 53:32
  done now because he doesn't have the standard and he hasn't been
• 53:35
  top 2. He's got time to go and run a
• 53:37
  standard, but Oh well. Yeah, if he runs a standard on
• 53:40
  that third spot with the selectors discretion, they could
• 53:43
  still choose him because they'll have the standard, but I don't
• 53:46
  know if it looks likely on the back of that.
• 53:48
  We'll have to see. Women's 1500 meters now.
• 53:53
  This was the shock of the meat, if you like.
• 53:57
  So again, I wasn't sure if this was my lack of knowledge, but
• 53:59
  Sarah Calvert had genuinely like, no disrespect to her.
• 54:03
  Never heard of her before this and she's one.
• 54:06
  She's beaten. Laura Muir.
• 54:08
  Reve Walcott Nolan, Aaron Wallace, Katie Snowden.
• 54:12
  So this girl for context, was running at the World Uni Games
• 54:16
  last week. Now like we know Max Shervington
• 54:19
  from WA was there. So like obviously the the great
• 54:22
  athletes, but they're not people you would typically see making
• 54:26
  world teams, at least not yet anyway.
• 54:28
  The kind of like those up and coming ones with the potential.
• 54:31
  So the fact that she's went from there to then winning the
• 54:34
  national championships against the calibre of athletes that's
• 54:37
  behind her is quite bizarre. It just shows you like
• 54:41
  championship racing. It's totally different when
• 54:43
  you've no basic pacemaker like this race was won in 416, which
• 54:47
  is like pretty slow. So it all comes down to a kick,
• 54:50
  really doesn't and how you're feeling. 100% and her interview
• 54:54
  afterwards again was quite refreshing because you can tell
• 54:57
  how shocked she is, like she wasn't expecting it because
• 55:00
  they're asking her like what her plans are now.
• 55:02
  So essentially if she can go and run the standard, she'll get a
• 55:05
  spot. And she was like, genuinely no
• 55:09
  idea. Like I'll have to speak to my
• 55:11
  coach and see if we can find some races because in the back
• 55:14
  of my head I thought maybe a medal at like absolute best case
• 55:19
  scenario, but I just didn't expect for this to be like the
• 55:22
  case. So the girl in fourth, Erin
• 55:25
  Wallace, she's another one from the M11 track group who's Keith
• 55:29
  Hodgkinson, Georgia Hunter, Bella JAMA Riki.
• 55:32
  And she done most of the front running, which I guess she'll be
• 55:36
  regretting now because I think on paper, perhaps her plus
• 55:41
  either Laura Muir or Rebei Walcott Nolan would have been
• 55:44
  the ones you'd expect. Includes the British
• 55:47
  Championships over to the Irish. Righty OH so our championships
• 55:54
  happened over 2 days. So most of the heats were on on
• 55:57
  the Saturday and then on the Sunday was the finals was the
• 56:01
  big day. So on the women's 5K, Neve Allen
• 56:05
  won in 1535, Anika Thompson came second in 1540 and Fiona Everard
• 56:13
  came third in 16 O 4. The men's 5K was won by Andrew
• 56:20
  Hoskren in 1334, Second was Brian Faye in 13481334.
• 56:28
  Again it was a sort of a Sprint finish dip for the line and then
• 56:31
  Jack O'Leary came third in 1341. That was the race I was in.
• 56:37
  I was just praying not to get lapped and I didn't in fact get
• 56:41
  lapped. So that was that was good.
• 56:44
  But from what I heard, I think Andrew finished in 55 second
• 56:48
  last lap. It was a total.
• 56:50
  It was pretty slow through 3K and then they just picked it up
• 56:54
  something ridiculous. And I'm like 1334, like, for
• 56:58
  like a champion brace, it's pretty, pretty fast.
• 57:02
  But yeah, and I was shocked to see Andrew even, like a lot of
• 57:06
  them must be trying to do the double, that 155K double,
• 57:10
  because I would have presumed Andrew Coster and would just
• 57:12
  throw all his eggs in that 1500 basket.
• 57:14
  But there must be some. There must be like spread out
• 57:17
  nicely in Tokyo or some I don't really know because yeah, I was
• 57:21
  talking to him before the race and I should have asked them Why
• 57:25
  are you here? But no would.
• 57:29
  He be preselected. I think he's ran 311 but I'm not
• 57:35
  sure 1311 sorry. I'm not sure what way the
• 57:39
  selection process works in Ireland really.
• 57:41
  I think they definitely have an A standard and AB standard, and
• 57:43
  if you hit the B standard they might send you.
• 57:47
  So, so, so in terms of GB in Northern Ireland, it's only
• 57:52
  George Mills that is in the like, you know, in the quota or
• 57:57
  he's run the standard like was it 13 O 13 O one?
• 58:01
  Yeah. That's a really.
• 58:03
  He run he run 1246 for it. Yeah.
• 58:07
  And then for Ireland, Brian Fay and Andrew Coskaran are both,
• 58:12
  yeah, their yeah, their quota position is 36 and 38.
• 58:17
  So they're both just inside the 42 capped field based on ranking
• 58:23
  points. OK, so yeah, maybe that's why he
• 58:25
  don't know. But yeah, like, will I go
• 58:28
  through my race now? Yeah, I reckon so.
• 58:30
  Tell us about like your whole day experience being at
• 58:34
  Nationals and mixing it with these fellas.
• 58:36
  So I got up in the morning and it just under 30 minute shake
• 58:39
  out just to shake the legs. And then it was a busy day in my
• 58:44
  household because my sister was in an all Ireland final with
• 58:47
  Mead. So for anyone who doesn't know,
• 58:49
  that was in like Ireland's like main 82,000 Cedar Stadium.
• 58:54
  So it was like the pinnacle of like basically her like
• 58:57
  football, Gaelic football. And so that was on at 4:15 and
• 59:02
  then my race was on at 25 to 6. So like I literally come 4:00.
• 59:07
  I just turned off my phone and I didn't want to know about it
• 59:09
  because I get really into her games, so it's good that I
• 59:13
  couldn't be there, but all my pardon.
• 59:17
  What sort of crowd did they? Get I think there was just under
• 59:20
  50,000 that it which is pretty good.
• 59:23
  And so, yeah, all my family went to that.
• 59:27
  I was, I was solo, so my running coach picked me up and brought
• 59:32
  me in. So we went in early to watch
• 59:34
  some of the events, but I just brought a camping chair with me
• 59:37
  and it just put the feet up on it and chilled.
• 59:39
  And then two hours before the race I am.
• 59:42
  I took my bicarb which seemed to have worked and my warm up go
• 59:46
  on. Which ones that?
• 59:48
  Is that the where you mix the two packets?
• 59:50
  I forget the name of it. Yeah, fly carp or something.
• 59:53
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it actually tasted more
• 59:55
  tolerable this time. Like I remember the first time I
• 59:57
  took it, I was like, I'm not actually able to take this.
• 1:00:00
  I was gagging and all, but I went down grand there and then,
• 1:00:05
  yeah. So took that two hours before
• 1:00:07
  then there was a 20 minute call room before the race and I sort
• 1:00:11
  of got caught out with that in the Cork event.
• 1:00:13
  So I normally start my warm up like an hour before.
• 1:00:16
  So for this race I started an hour and 20 minutes before.
• 1:00:19
  And because in the call room you can't really do anything, you're
• 1:00:21
  just sitting down looking at other lads.
• 1:00:23
  So yeah, done my 15 minute warm up.
• 1:00:27
  Then I'd done a few minutes, I think it was 2 by two-minute
• 1:00:30
  threshold. And actually during this, I'd
• 1:00:33
  done my first threshold and I was like sort of pushing a
• 1:00:36
  little bit and my watch was reading like 340 per kilometer.
• 1:00:40
  And I was like, this cannot be right.
• 1:00:42
  Like I am sort of like, like this does not feel like 340.
• 1:00:45
  And then then I turned around and went back again to do the
• 1:00:50
  second Rep. And it was like at 2:50.
• 1:00:52
  So I was like, oh, the satellite mustn't have gotten right.
• 1:00:55
  So like just technology be aware.
• 1:00:58
  But like, I felt good. So yeah, then got the spikes on,
• 1:01:03
  went into the call room, like the car room of sort of like
• 1:01:07
  you're gone. I just, so do you think that
• 1:01:09
  will just be something you do as standard as part of your warm
• 1:01:12
  up? Like I see it getting more and
• 1:01:13
  more popular, like a bit of a like a flush before like a like
• 1:01:17
  a track race or like before like A5 or 10K like road race.
• 1:01:22
  Like do you find it helpful to sort of prime your prime
• 1:01:25
  yourself in that you sort of hit the race feeling more, albeit
• 1:01:28
  that this was done what now before?
• 1:01:30
  So I've only started doing it since I came home and I feel
• 1:01:33
  like it really does prime you. It sort of gets you like in that
• 1:01:37
  flow, like your body is like okay, like it's time to sort of
• 1:01:41
  move fast if you get me. So I feel like it does get the
• 1:01:45
  body like primed because it is like a two to three minute
• 1:01:48
  effort. So it's sort of like wires
• 1:01:50
  astride could be like for a couple of seconds.
• 1:01:53
  So I feel like it really does get the body primed and like
• 1:01:56
  ready to go and it doesn't take anything out of you either.
• 1:01:59
  So yeah, I've been. I feel like it has worked for me
• 1:02:01
  so far. If you if you weren't in the
• 1:02:04
  cool room as early, when would you normally do it?
• 1:02:07
  Like half an hour before or. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 1:02:11
  Yeah. Well, saying like I'd say I got
• 1:02:14
  to do the strides or that threshold bit around like 35 to
• 1:02:17
  40 minutes before. Like by the time you do your
• 1:02:20
  jog, a few of them dynamic stretches and all that sort of
• 1:02:23
  stuff. Then I do the threshold bit, jog
• 1:02:27
  back and like sort of get all my stuff ready, like get a little
• 1:02:30
  drink, take a little a gel and then I do another few strides
• 1:02:36
  and then it's really it's go time.
• 1:02:39
  Sorry to take you back, but I've just remembered that you were
• 1:02:42
  like quite ill in the weekly and not, weren't you?
• 1:02:44
  So at what point did you start feeling like good again?
• 1:02:47
  So yeah, I was wrote off Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday I sort
• 1:02:55
  of started coming around, still had a sore throat.
• 1:02:59
  And Wednesday I sort of done my like last sort of half session.
• 1:03:03
  Like I felt well enough to do a session.
• 1:03:05
  So I don't like 10 minutes of threshold and then AK at like my
• 1:03:09
  predicted 5K pace and I could feel like I was coming around.
• 1:03:14
  And then Friday I was like, I'd say I was like 90% sun Saturday
• 1:03:20
  I was like 95% and then Sunday like I was like no sort throat.
• 1:03:24
  I'd like time to perfection really.
• 1:03:26
  Like I felt like the illness was like long gone.
• 1:03:28
  Like I felt good like 100%. Um, so yeah, then call room,
• 1:03:34
  you're just sitting down for 20 minutes looking at like, like it
• 1:03:38
  was real. Like imposter syndrome.
• 1:03:40
  Like Ephraim G'day, Coke athlete, like Andrew Kosker, New
• 1:03:44
  Balance athlete, like Brian Faye, Cormac Dalton, like all
• 1:03:47
  these boys that are like 13 mid guys and them.
• 1:03:51
  Then there's me. We've done YouTube Diaries on
• 1:03:54
  two of them. Yeah, like it's crazy to be like
• 1:03:57
  in the same race as these guys. And I was talking to a lad and
• 1:04:03
  he'd be around the same level as me and he's like, so what's the
• 1:04:05
  plan? And I was like, sit at the back
• 1:04:08
  and hold on for your life. And he was like, he was like, so
• 1:04:11
  you're not going to take it out in a 60?
• 1:04:13
  And I was like, man, I can't even run a 60.
• 1:04:16
  And all the lads are just, they're like laughing and that's
• 1:04:20
  good. So yeah, they bring it into the
• 1:04:23
  track. You line up and like for the
• 1:04:26
  first like 2 laps, Ephraim G'day is on the rail to my left and
• 1:04:30
  like Andrew Koster and is like just in front of me.
• 1:04:33
  I'm like, you see these guys like on YouTube and in Diamond
• 1:04:36
  leagues and like then you're like running with them.
• 1:04:40
  It was like, like what? What the hell?
• 1:04:43
  It was like, it was just crazy to like be.
• 1:04:45
  I was, I was watched. I watched it when I got up this
• 1:04:48
  morning because you could rewatch the stream back.
• 1:04:50
  And then that was one of the first things I noticed.
• 1:04:52
  Like you were next to that good day for like the first few laps.
• 1:04:56
  Yeah, you're doing nothing wrong.
• 1:04:58
  Because it was like 70s or something to start with, wasn't
• 1:05:01
  it? And I was thinking.
• 1:05:02
  You must have so much like doubt, like why?
• 1:05:06
  Why am I next to him? Like what am I doing wrong?
• 1:05:08
  Exactly, exactly. I'm like, am I meant to be here?
• 1:05:10
  Like what is the pace? But then it's, it's good that
• 1:05:13
  they have like the clocks at every 200.
• 1:05:16
  So like, you know, you know that you're not like pushing it too
• 1:05:20
  hard. And I think the first K went
• 1:05:23
  through and like 255. So I knew I sort of like where I
• 1:05:26
  should be. Then we went through 3K in 845.
• 1:05:33
  So and like at this stage there were sort of like 2 races.
• 1:05:37
  So there was like a group of let's say 10, and then there was
• 1:05:41
  another group. I was in that second group and
• 1:05:43
  there was like a sort of a big gap.
• 1:05:45
  So just running my own race. And then, yeah, I just hanged
• 1:05:50
  on, hung on to the back of this, this guy from Cork who ended up
• 1:05:55
  running 1424. He dropped me.
• 1:05:59
  I think it was like 600 to 800. And yeah, I was just literally
• 1:06:03
  just sure, 800, the race is nearly done.
• 1:06:05
  So you're just basically pushing as hard as you can.
• 1:06:08
  So I'm not sure what I closed or anything like that, but 1430,
• 1:06:12
  like 3 second PB. Like I was sort of sad in a way
• 1:06:17
  I didn't get under that 1430 mark.
• 1:06:19
  But if you told me like last week or the start of the day
• 1:06:22
  that I'd run 1430, like I would have beat your hand off for it.
• 1:06:25
  So yeah, like I'm fitter than what I've ever have been off
• 1:06:31
  like, like this little bit of training, like I've done three
• 1:06:33
  track sessions. So like I'm sort of in a good
• 1:06:36
  place going into cross country. And so yeah, it was a great
• 1:06:39
  experience. Like the crowd there was
• 1:06:41
  incredible. And it was sort of, it was funny
• 1:06:43
  that the guy in front of me, his name was Owen as well.
• 1:06:46
  So everyone was like, go on Owen.
• 1:06:48
  And I was like, I don't if they're cheering for me or him.
• 1:06:51
  So yeah. But it was, it was so cool, such
• 1:06:53
  a good experience. Sounds like the perfect race
• 1:06:55
  really. Like in terms of, I think you
• 1:06:57
  were sort of talking like 255 might be the sort of pace.
• 1:07:00
  So it's sort of set you up nicely and you're like, what?
• 1:07:02
  You must have closed a little bit quicker than that, right?
• 1:07:05
  5 fives 25 like 1435. So you must have kicked home a
• 1:07:08
  bit. Yeah, I probably did pick it up
• 1:07:10
  a little bit, but like nothing like the lads close in 55, like
• 1:07:14
  ideally you'd like to close in a low 60 because that means you've
• 1:07:17
  sort of time to profession. But look, I really, really can't
• 1:07:20
  complain. But that's that's the end of my
• 1:07:23
  track season really. And the bicarb and and
• 1:07:27
  everything like that. Happy with.
• 1:07:29
  Yeah, that's that. Well, obviously.
• 1:07:31
  Yeah, yeah, everything to like I sort of done everything I could
• 1:07:34
  like outside of the race. Like I feel like my tack is in
• 1:07:37
  the race. Like there was I think I was
• 1:07:39
  third in the group and your man started to pull away who was
• 1:07:43
  leading the group and I sort of went around the two lads.
• 1:07:46
  So like I sort of like as well as I could of run the races like
• 1:07:49
  I run the best race I could basically and that.
• 1:07:53
  Well, did you, your coach have any reflections or you guys chat
• 1:07:58
  on the way home? Yeah, like he was happy.
• 1:08:01
  Like that's where he thought I was between that 1440 and 1430
• 1:08:05
  and to be on the higher end of it, like I really can't
• 1:08:08
  complain. And with the week that was in
• 1:08:09
  it, like it really was sort of up in the air.
• 1:08:11
  Like, fair enough, I was over it.
• 1:08:12
  But like sometimes, like, it probably worked in my favor, to
• 1:08:15
  be honest. Like I was super fresh.
• 1:08:16
  Like I three days off running, so I probably was super fresh.
• 1:08:19
  Like I know Andy Buchanan got sick and lead up to his world,
• 1:08:22
  his Australian record in the marathon.
• 1:08:25
  So it probably worked in my favor as well-being honest, but
• 1:08:29
  no like pretty happy with the result.
• 1:08:32
  Like I'm sort of like where I where I thought I was.
• 1:08:34
  Crazy. Yeah, me and Dean, because we,
• 1:08:39
  we met for lunch today in the city.
• 1:08:41
  So we were chatting and they said it's like obscene that
• 1:08:46
  you've literally had 11-12 weeks training and you've ran A3 KPB
• 1:08:50
  and A5 KPB. Yeah.
• 1:08:52
  But like that's like, I feel like when you get injured, it's
• 1:08:55
  just like when you get injured, you can't always come back
• 1:08:58
  stronger. Like your body's had that break.
• 1:08:59
  Like I was 11 weeks off running. So I feel like when you do come
• 1:09:03
  back, you come back so much fresher and like stronger and
• 1:09:07
  like you've got hunger and like you get it back so quick as
• 1:09:11
  well. Like fair enough.
• 1:09:12
  Like it's pretty demoralizing when you get injured.
• 1:09:13
  And ideally like I should have took a break to prevented myself
• 1:09:17
  getting injury injured. So like if I had two weeks off
• 1:09:19
  on my own accord, rather than 11 weeks off, being like being
• 1:09:22
  forced to take 11 weeks off, like that's ideally what you
• 1:09:25
  want. Um, so yeah, look after, I think
• 1:09:29
  I've another race in two weeks and then I have like my local
• 1:09:33
  race the week after that and then I'll take a week off
• 1:09:36
  running. I might run like every like
• 1:09:38
  third day or something like that, but total deload.
• 1:09:41
  And then I'll start picking it up again for like the cross
• 1:09:43
  country season. And so like, that's the plan at
• 1:09:46
  the moment. But yeah, again, just keep fit.
• 1:09:49
  It's like the consistency like is so so so important.
• 1:09:52
  And what's in a couple of weeks? What's coming up?
• 1:09:55
  There's a 10 Miller so 16 kilometers around the Phoenix
• 1:09:58
  Park again and it's like there's this like Irish Life race series
• 1:10:04
  in the lead up to. So Irish Life are like the big
• 1:10:08
  sponsor for the Dublin Marathon. So like they've got this like
• 1:10:11
  race series leading up to the Dublin Marathon and the Dublin
• 1:10:15
  Marathon is then or Ginnie Mac. When is the Dublin Marathon?
• 1:10:19
  And it's coming up pretty soon. Was the Five Mile you did part
• 1:10:22
  of that series or? I think that was separate.
• 1:10:27
  Dublin Marathon is on the end of October, so it's sort of like
• 1:10:30
  leads up into it. So yeah, I've got onto that one.
• 1:10:35
  And then yeah, just my local 5, Ki said.
• 1:10:37
  I just run that because the local 1.
• 1:10:40
  But yeah, I know pretty happy about how like it was the best
• 1:10:42
  case scenario to be honest. Run a PB, you can't really
• 1:10:45
  complain. And also getting just getting
• 1:10:48
  into that race, like I saw the results for the B race and that
• 1:10:52
  would have been a little bit like Maragami.
• 1:10:54
  Again, you would have had to have done all the work and not
• 1:10:57
  had the benefit of the competition around you.
• 1:10:59
  Whereas getting into that a race, like I know it was like at
• 1:11:02
  the pointy end, pretty outrageous, but like it wasn't
• 1:11:06
  like you, you weren't, you weren't close to last in that
• 1:11:08
  race. Like it was, it was ideal, I
• 1:11:10
  think, wasn't it? Yeah, and I always said, like,
• 1:11:13
  I'd rather come last in the A race than win the B race.
• 1:11:16
  As bad as it sounds like you're always going to get dragged
• 1:11:19
  along to a faster time in a faster race.
• 1:11:21
  And like, that's the race I want to be in.
• 1:11:23
  Like you want to be in with them big guys with the pros.
• 1:11:27
  And so, yeah, no, pretty happy with how it went and.
• 1:11:31
  Oscar and Brian Faye be like, off to altitude or something
• 1:11:34
  now, do you know? I'm not too sure what's the
• 1:11:39
  story with them now because I'd say they probably all they'll
• 1:11:44
  head up to Hoyos, you know that Melbourne track club, probably
• 1:11:47
  because probably they might do a Diamond League or something to
• 1:11:50
  keep them fresh. But yeah, they probably woke up
• 1:11:51
  to Hoyos in Spain. Where is he?
• 1:11:56
  Women's 800 meter Alex Neil won in two O 4.
• 1:12:01
  Sarah Healy came second in two O 4 as a Sprint finish like dip
• 1:12:06
  for the line and Maeve O'Neill was second and two or four as
• 1:12:09
  well. So just milliseconds and
• 1:12:11
  separating them three again. Sarah Healy pair of M11 track
• 1:12:14
  club where Keely Hodgkinson, she dropped out in the distance and
• 1:12:19
  I'd say she's like to be honest, it's not her, it's not her
• 1:12:21
  distance like 800. She's a 1500 meter girl.
• 1:12:24
  So I'd say she's pretty happy with that time.
• 1:12:27
  In the men's 800, Mark English won in 148, Keen Mcphillips came
• 1:12:33
  second in 149 and Andrew Thompson came third in 149.93.
• 1:12:40
  So Mark English is sort of like the old Stallworth, like he's
• 1:12:42
  been around for ages and Keen Mcphillips is like the young gun
• 1:12:46
  coming up. So yeah, they were sort of like
• 1:12:48
  guaranteed like 1 twos. Mate, have I got this right and
• 1:12:51
  that the commentator said that Mark English, he's just won his
• 1:12:56
  10th year in a row. Yeah, yeah, he's unbelievable.
• 1:13:00
  He's been around for so, so long.
• 1:13:02
  He's got a couple of European indoor medals as well.
• 1:13:04
  He could have came third in European indoors a couple of
• 1:13:06
  times. So he's like pretty legit.
• 1:13:08
  And he's only setting PBS this year, like he said, 400 PB this
• 1:13:12
  year or 800 PB this year. So like he'd be getting on on
• 1:13:15
  his own still PBN, which is good.
• 1:13:17
  In the women's 1500, Laura Nicholson won in 413, Zoe Toland
• 1:13:24
  came second in 4:15 and then Nieve Carr came third in 416.
• 1:13:31
  And then the last race of the night was the men's. 1500 was
• 1:13:35
  probably is probably the most stacked race to be honest.
• 1:13:41
  Ryan's man Kyle Doyle won it in 353.
• 1:13:46
  Andrew Koskin backed up like so I was going for my cooldown and
• 1:13:50
  Andrew was going back out to like sort of like, I don't know
• 1:13:53
  whether it was a cooldown or a warm up because there's like
• 1:13:56
  only like a couple of hours in between the two races.
• 1:13:59
  He came second in 353.8 and then Nick Griggs, the young lad from
• 1:14:05
  Open Tyrone in Ireland ran 353.9.
• 1:14:09
  So again it was a dip for the line.
• 1:14:11
  Cottle Doyle just had that little bit more.
• 1:14:13
  I'd say Andrew Costa Green like probably was a little tiny bit
• 1:14:17
  tired from the 5K. But yeah, like again, like
• 1:14:21
  they're all like a couple of years ago in Ireland you'd have
• 1:14:23
  no like top. You might have one or two top
• 1:14:26
  athletes like in all these races.
• 1:14:28
  They're all like really like pushing like the world standards
• 1:14:32
  and all that sort of stuff. So it's really Irish athletics
• 1:14:35
  is in such a good place at the moment.
• 1:14:36
  It's cool. You think if Costco had taken
• 1:14:39
  bicarb pre the 5000 would they have had to double dose for this
• 1:14:43
  or would that one dose of Dunham?
• 1:14:46
  Oh, that's a good question. You know, I'm not too sure
• 1:14:52
  because the that would have been so I took mine at like 4:15.
• 1:14:58
  I really, really don't know. He might have had to double dose
• 1:15:01
  because he would have been flooded even though it wasn't
• 1:15:04
  that like fast time wise, like it was a jog at the start.
• 1:15:08
  Let's be real. We could have stuck with them,
• 1:15:10
  but it's just the last like 800 meters, 600 meters.
• 1:15:15
  They run so fast, like they make up so much time.
• 1:15:18
  And so, yeah, Savage running. That mark.
• 1:15:21
  Is. Mark English is 32 for anyone
• 1:15:25
  wondering. You said he was getting getting
• 1:15:27
  on, so yeah, 32. Pretty pretty good for an old
• 1:15:30
  timer. An old dog.
• 1:15:32
  And yeah, that's the Irish national champs.
• 1:15:35
  Big weekend of athletics, wasn't it?
• 1:15:37
  Yeah, all the national champs are on.
• 1:15:39
  And also the state champs were on in the half marathon in
• 1:15:42
  Perth, which were won by yours truly, the Menzies in 6743 in,
• 1:15:49
  as we spoke about at the start of the show, obscene weather
• 1:15:53
  conditions. So I did say to Dean earlier,
• 1:15:56
  Owen, I don't know how I felt when a scene that his time was 5
• 1:16:00
  seconds slower than my PB. And then if I was like, thank
• 1:16:04
  God it wasn't 6 seconds quicker or what the hell, He's just ran
• 1:16:08
  that in that store. That's the time I ran a
• 1:16:10
  maragami. The exact time to the second,
• 1:16:12
  Sir. So on a packing flat course in
• 1:16:16
  Japan, Dean equaled that on the footpath in a storm in Perth.
• 1:16:24
  To rub salt into the wounds, he then reminded me of the workout
• 1:16:27
  that he'd done in Bunbury Half Marathon and ran 6730.
• 1:16:31
  Or something anyway. Flexing.
• 1:16:37
  Not like that. This is what the state champs do
• 1:16:41
  second. Second was training partner Max
• 1:16:46
  Mon in 6825 and 3rd Jacob Howard in 7115.
• 1:16:53
  And the women's was Lauren French winning in one hour 2329
• 1:16:58
  seconds, second Jess Reynolds in one hour 2412 seconds and 3rd
• 1:17:04
  Mazie Bird in one hour 2416 seconds.
• 1:17:07
  So whilst we're here, do you want to give us a bit of a race
• 1:17:10
  recap, Dean? Yeah.
• 1:17:12
  So yeah, sorry. Ryan, were you on the bike
• 1:17:17
  pacing him? Good question.
• 1:17:20
  Is it legal? This time legal basically.
• 1:17:22
  Yeah, the weather was enough to put me off and keep me in bed.
• 1:17:25
  Fair enough. When he messaged, he messaged
• 1:17:30
  the night before looking for an out.
• 1:17:32
  I just left it. Yes, he's basically like asking
• 1:17:37
  me to explain the weather forecast to him and so for why I
• 1:17:42
  didn't have to come out. So I thought I'd leave it in the
• 1:17:43
  hope that he might, you know, break the wind on the way out,
• 1:17:48
  but not to be. I was, to be honest, I was
• 1:17:51
  hoping that RAF wouldn't be there because I knew that if RAF
• 1:17:54
  was, it would make me look bad. He was there, but he was, he
• 1:17:58
  was. I saw him under a bridge, under
• 1:18:01
  a bath shelter and then he he was out on course giving us a
• 1:18:07
  cheer, which is very good of him.
• 1:18:09
  I think he tooted me from in his car at one point, though I don't
• 1:18:11
  remember that because it was it was pretty wet.
• 1:18:14
  But yeah, I think as we mentioned at the top, the race
• 1:18:18
  nearly got called off because of bad weather or more just the the
• 1:18:22
  threat of lightning, I think was potentially going to meant that
• 1:18:27
  it was going to be postponed. But Max messaged us earlier in
• 1:18:31
  the morning just to say, hey, heads up, it's looking like it's
• 1:18:33
  going to switch from 8:00 AM to 8:30, which was good.
• 1:18:37
  So it meant I didn't have to rush because I was late as I
• 1:18:40
  sometimes am getting to the start delayed when I took my
• 1:18:44
  caffeine, which is probably a good thing.
• 1:18:46
  And then I was contemplating not taking it all if it wasn't going
• 1:18:48
  to happen. Like there was a real chance, I
• 1:18:51
  think before the race started that it was going to be called
• 1:18:54
  off, like probably, I don't know, 50-50 around that sort of
• 1:18:59
  chance based on the vibe when I got there.
• 1:19:01
  Like they were contemplating what they were desperately came
• 1:19:03
  to make the race go ahead. Like there was a whole, a whole
• 1:19:07
  heap of people still turned out for it even despite the terrible
• 1:19:10
  weather. But I think the Marathon Club
• 1:19:12
  are pretty sensible. Like they were aware that safety
• 1:19:16
  comes first, which was just really good.
• 1:19:19
  Like it's a like in terms of the WA Marathon Club, when we had
• 1:19:23
  COVID here in in Perth or even across Australia, like every
• 1:19:28
  state sort of went into lockdown.
• 1:19:29
  And so apart from like essential services, you couldn't cross
• 1:19:32
  state borders. And a lot of private companies
• 1:19:34
  that ran events sort of pulled their events.
• 1:19:37
  Whereas the Marathon Club, which yeah, is largely sort of run by
• 1:19:40
  volunteers, managed to put on a heap of great events throughout
• 1:19:43
  COVID. And like, so back in 2020, this
• 1:19:46
  race was like really well attended because there sort of
• 1:19:50
  wasn't any other events for people to be able to travel to,
• 1:19:53
  which is often what takes up. Like, for example, the Sunshine
• 1:19:56
  Coast race, which we might recap quickly soon, is a race I've
• 1:19:59
  gone to in the past instead of racing this because it tends to
• 1:20:01
  fall in the same weekend. So yeah, Marathon Club did a
• 1:20:04
  great job of still getting out there.
• 1:20:06
  They had all the volunteers on course and all the Marshalls.
• 1:20:08
  And basically they said to us, we'll start at 8:30.
• 1:20:11
  And then at 8:20 they said, hey, there's going to be some bad
• 1:20:14
  weather at 8:30, we might just get it started now.
• 1:20:17
  So we all huddled out to the start line and there's some
• 1:20:21
  people still sort of doing warmups because I thought it was
• 1:20:23
  maybe 830. And then maybe by about 8:25, we
• 1:20:25
  all sort of got underway and then within 5.
• 1:20:29
  It was like maybe, to borrow a phrase from my own, like lashing
• 1:20:32
  rain, like it was pretty heavy. And I don't know if I think it
• 1:20:35
  might have been hailing. And I had a cap on thanks to Bix
• 1:20:40
  and Max didn't. And Max is having to shield the,
• 1:20:43
  it's sort of shield his face from like the the hail or get
• 1:20:47
  like getting into his eyes, like it was sort of stinging a bit.
• 1:20:49
  And the way the course works is it basically goes along
• 1:20:52
  footpath, the 10 1/2 K's and turns around and the prevailing
• 1:20:55
  wind was like sort of 40 to 50K's an hour sort of into your
• 1:21:00
  face or it's coming from the West.
• 1:21:01
  And so basically the first K and a half wasn't into the wind.
• 1:21:04
  But once you do that, you sort of ran parallel with it and then
• 1:21:07
  you sort of turned into a headwind for the next, I don't
• 1:21:10
  know, 8:00-ish sort of case. So it's pretty, pretty average
• 1:21:13
  sort of start to the race. And it was like the wind gusts
• 1:21:15
  were pretty bad. It was like one of the most
• 1:21:17
  stormy parts. But yeah, Max and I did that
• 1:21:20
  sort of first section together. Then we sort of maybe took it in
• 1:21:23
  terms of doing like stints of effort and then he sort of got
• 1:21:28
  away from me maybe a little bit going up over the Narrows.
• 1:21:32
  We weren't really focused much at all on times, just because it
• 1:21:35
  was sort of, yeah, time sort of went out the window and then
• 1:21:39
  I've got away a little bit just over the Narrows heading up
• 1:21:44
  towards Altuan Brewery. I was.
• 1:21:47
  Going to say, did you deliberately let him go because
• 1:21:50
  you were like in tune with heart rates or?
• 1:21:53
  Yeah, I just felt the effort was pretty high, Yeah.
• 1:21:55
  And I was running a bit to heart rate.
• 1:21:56
  But the problem with the heart rate monitor is when it gets
• 1:21:59
  like super wet, it's sort of shits itself a bit.
• 1:22:02
  So you can't completely rely on it.
• 1:22:04
  But it felt like the, he was sort of making a bit of effort,
• 1:22:07
  like an effort. So I was sort of a bit conscious
• 1:22:09
  that like, was getting a bit difficult.
• 1:22:12
  So I sort of, yeah, just kept him a bit close.
• 1:22:15
  And then we sort of caught back up to each other and then I
• 1:22:19
  wasn't feeling too bad, you know, along that flat section
• 1:22:21
  around past the, the brewery along Matilda Bay Rd.
• 1:22:25
  I got a little bit of a gap. And then we just do this,
• 1:22:28
  U-turn, it's just a hairpin. U-turn at the end.
• 1:22:31
  And that's when I fell over. I wore the called the, the Evo
• 1:22:34
  ones. And the sole on them is like,
• 1:22:37
  it's like a, it's like flat plastic.
• 1:22:40
  Like the shoes are so light. And I was just so hell bent on
• 1:22:42
  because they were light. I just, they were the only ones
• 1:22:45
  I packed the night before. And yeah, they were, they were a
• 1:22:49
  terrible shoe choice really with the benefit of hindsight, Like
• 1:22:52
  they're they're not. I was slipping and sliding on
• 1:22:54
  some of the light slipperier parts of the path, like wherever
• 1:22:57
  if anything was painted or it's like a tiled section at one
• 1:23:00
  point that would just. That would in hindsight not the
• 1:23:04
  right shoe. So at any point in the race, was
• 1:23:06
  the wind on your back? Like, did you have a nice little
• 1:23:08
  boost? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:23:09
  So basically you get around that U-turn, so 10 1/2 K's and then
• 1:23:15
  probably 80% of the return, 70% of the return is like it's got a
• 1:23:19
  tailwind. So you could just run, run at
• 1:23:22
  effort. Then I was sort of pretty sore,
• 1:23:25
  like sort of mechanically struggling a bit, a little bit
• 1:23:28
  in the in the shoes. And but yeah, I was sort of just
• 1:23:32
  not trying to manage the gap a little bit to to Max and yeah,
• 1:23:37
  sort of just held on from there I suppose.
• 1:23:41
  But yeah. Any surges or anything or just
• 1:23:44
  like one steady effort? When we got back to the bridge,
• 1:23:49
  like back to the going over the narrows, he was sort of not too
• 1:23:53
  far behind me. And so I sort of made a little
• 1:23:55
  bit of a a press over the bridge to try and get a bit of a gap.
• 1:24:00
  And that seemed to to work a bit.
• 1:24:02
  And then, yeah, I just sort of just running, I don't know,
• 1:24:05
  running tempo, I suppose to just sort of make sure I wasn't.
• 1:24:09
  Yeah, I didn't over commit and didn't run out of run out of
• 1:24:13
  gas, but sort of didn't want to sort of make it look like there
• 1:24:16
  was a gap that it could be close to make it a Sprint finish
• 1:24:19
  because I'd probably lose it. So yeah, that was sort of how
• 1:24:22
  how I ran it sort of difficult sort of times went out the door
• 1:24:25
  and there was pretty, pretty difficult weather wise, but it
• 1:24:27
  was still good just to get a hit out in.
• 1:24:29
  How does it feel to race a race like that, where it's like
• 1:24:32
  purely just racing for the win rather than like anything to do
• 1:24:35
  with time? Like it was still good, it was
• 1:24:38
  still fun, I still enjoyed it. Like we still went out and had a
• 1:24:41
  hit out and like racing's like it's not all about just running
• 1:24:45
  a time, but it's just sort of just difficult to contextualize.
• 1:24:49
  Like at one point I think you'd the race was almost being called
• 1:24:52
  off and so you're sort of half committed to the effort.
• 1:24:55
  And so but then you're like, I'm probably going to have to go
• 1:24:57
  home and run on the treadmill for two hours.
• 1:24:58
  So you don't want to do that. So you're sort of willing
• 1:25:00
  yourself enough to sort of do what you need to do, but you're
• 1:25:03
  sort of they're not the mornings that you get super hyped for.
• 1:25:06
  I don't think like it's a bit harder to get completely psyched
• 1:25:09
  up for. I think part of the motivation
• 1:25:12
  to do it say last year, like I was raced this race last year
• 1:25:15
  and it was just a stunning morning.
• 1:25:16
  Like Perth and winter on a regular morning is like you can
• 1:25:20
  get a quite still crisp morning and it's just stunning to run
• 1:25:25
  in. And we had some of them earlier
• 1:25:27
  in the week, which is pretty unlucky that this was just a
• 1:25:30
  terrible front of weather that we had.
• 1:25:31
  So yeah, sort of like, I think you sort of just chalk those
• 1:25:34
  down to it's like, you know, when you do like a really hard
• 1:25:36
  workout and you're like, if I can survive this workout, I can
• 1:25:39
  survive, you know, then it hopefully it makes the other
• 1:25:41
  ones a bit easier. So yeah, glad I did it and yeah,
• 1:25:45
  hopefully get fitter from it. So correct me if I'm wrong,
• 1:25:48
  that's now rain and state. 10K champ and a half marathon champ.
• 1:25:53
  Yeah, I'll have to do the Perth Marathon in October and get
• 1:25:57
  this. Yeah, you beat me to it.
• 1:26:00
  You see him where I was going with that one.
• 1:26:04
  Yeah. No, I think the plan will be to
• 1:26:07
  maybe do. There's a Melbourne marathon.
• 1:26:11
  Melbourne Running Festival and the Perth Running Festival are
• 1:26:13
  on the same day in the early to mid-october so I'll run
• 1:26:18
  something, get one of those. I'm just not sure which one yet.
• 1:26:21
  But probably 1/2 marathon. Maybe either one of them.
• 1:26:23
  You seem to be racing a lot more than what you normally do.
• 1:26:28
  Yeah, I feel like if you're racing a marathon, you're sort
• 1:26:30
  of a bit stuck to just racing a marathon, whereas I feel like
• 1:26:32
  you can race a bit more right at the minute.
• 1:26:35
  And obviously Melbourne would be like, if you're going to run
• 1:26:39
  fast, like Melbourne would be, probably be the one you'd go to.
• 1:26:42
  Yeah, exactly. Like Perth would be an
• 1:26:43
  opportunity to race people and then Melbourne would be an
• 1:26:47
  opportunity to maybe run a PB. So people want, I'm not sure
• 1:26:50
  which one yet, maybe see how I go over the next few weeks and.
• 1:26:56
  Is that end of? October, Yeah, yeah.
• 1:26:58
  So a bit of a bit of time and then after that I think it would
• 1:27:01
  be sort of head down for Valencia prep.
• 1:27:04
  Valencia. Any inroads with the flights
• 1:27:07
  there? No, you'll get me in trouble
• 1:27:09
  with house. I've not booked anything.
• 1:27:11
  Ryan wait, I know it's months away.
• 1:27:14
  He'll book the flights on like December 1st.
• 1:27:16
  You. Know it.
• 1:27:21
  That's. Even that's calling it a bit
• 1:27:23
  early, to be honest. Maybe we should just keep asking
• 1:27:28
  this question. We can we can see when it when
• 1:27:30
  it gets done. Well, maybe get hold on.
• 1:27:33
  You sound like my wife. Yeah.
• 1:27:38
  Well, well done on your win anyway.
• 1:27:40
  Thanks. Moving on to another domestic
• 1:27:44
  half marathon was the Sunshine Coast Half Marathon which was
• 1:27:49
  worn on the men's side of things by Andy Buchanan in 6213. 2nd is
• 1:27:56
  Sydney Marathon Elite Field member Liam Adams in 6427 and
• 1:28:03
  3rd is Sebastian Usher in 6650. Before we break that down, I'll
• 1:28:08
  do the women's. First is Tara Palm in 7354,
• 1:28:14
  second Rebecca Lowe 7422 and 3rd Charlotte Wilson in 7448.
• 1:28:21
  So any thoughts on that? Andy Sit?
• 1:28:25
  Yeah. And Liam Adams going around his
• 1:28:27
  back as well. That's his first race in first
• 1:28:29
  good race in ages. I don't know what the Adams
• 1:28:32
  would have been like. What age Liam Adams I.
• 1:28:35
  Think he's 38? So he's really, really, really
• 1:28:37
  old. Washed now.
• 1:28:45
  What would the PB be for Liam Adams there?
• 1:28:47
  What is his payday? Yeah, at a guess, 62 minutes.
• 1:28:53
  Yeah, OK, I got some context on this.
• 1:28:57
  It was $2000 for the win and $1000 if respectively for the
• 1:29:03
  men you broke 63, which Andy did, and for the women if you
• 1:29:08
  broke 70, which Tara did not, but she still would have got 2
• 1:29:13
  grand for the win. This course like this half
• 1:29:17
  marathon, so it's often been the Australian half marathon chance
• 1:29:21
  and it's it's really good Like it's it has one hill in it that
• 1:29:25
  you go up at the start and then you go out in One Direction, do
• 1:29:30
  a wide U-turn off like a full like like 4 lane Rd. and then
• 1:29:35
  head back. You come back over that back
• 1:29:39
  over that hill and and then it's basically just flat or like
• 1:29:43
  complete like pancake flat all the way out to the, you know, 7
• 1:29:47
  KS and then U-turn back again another wide U-turn.
• 1:29:51
  But the course is the course is quite good and it's often like
• 1:29:54
  whenever it was sort of the national half marathon champs,
• 1:29:57
  you, you got some really good fields.
• 1:29:59
  Like, yeah, I think I remember one year like, but the, the, the
• 1:30:04
  women's all comers record was broken.
• 1:30:06
  And I think it was like maybe by Lisa Whiteman and I think Sinead
• 1:30:10
  and Diver and Ellie Pashley were all in the race and it was all
• 1:30:14
  like really close. And the men's race was really
• 1:30:16
  hotly contested as well. Like there's it's a really good
• 1:30:19
  event and the event company that runs it do a very good job.
• 1:30:23
  So I could see them trying to like reposition it a little bit
• 1:30:26
  because it's sort of getting so competitive now with Launceston
• 1:30:29
  and Gold Coast and the like. So yeah, hopefully it hopefully
• 1:30:33
  people show up for it because it's a good course and it's men.
• 1:30:37
  Sunshine Coast is like such a nice part of the world as well.
• 1:30:40
  Be a nice one to do, like as a holla attack a holiday on to.
• 1:30:44
  Unpopular opinion, the Sunshine Coast is nicer than the Gold
• 1:30:48
  Coast. I agree, yeah.
• 1:30:50
  Yeah, stunning. Even Nusat is just gorgeous.
• 1:30:53
  Yeah. How much further north than Gold
• 1:30:56
  Coast in Brisbane is it if you drove, say?
• 1:30:59
  Would it be an hour, Hour and a half?
• 1:31:01
  An hour, Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty equal.
• 1:31:04
  That's not close. Yeah, Yeah, I get the sense that
• 1:31:07
  they're trying to push this as well.
• 1:31:09
  One, because of the the time bonuses here.
• 1:31:12
  I get the sense that they're trying to like incentivize
• 1:31:14
  faster people to come and kind of build the reputation that
• 1:31:17
  way. And two, because as seen on the
• 1:31:19
  social media, they were kind of posting a lot about the results
• 1:31:23
  and always mentioning like about the winners running fast times
• 1:31:27
  and breaking the course record. So I don't know, something adds
• 1:31:31
  up there. But to cover the marathon
• 1:31:34
  results off, because there was a marathon on as part of the same
• 1:31:38
  events, would that have been two laps of the half course or like
• 1:31:41
  an extended version? Dean.
• 1:31:43
  It used to be two laps of the half.
• 1:31:44
  I'm not sure if that's what it was for this year, but yeah,
• 1:31:47
  they used to do remember one year I did it, there was a,
• 1:31:51
  there was like a, you know, when they you often do like a brother
• 1:31:53
  sister race, like an exchange. So the winner of one race can
• 1:31:56
  get an entry into. And so they did that with like
• 1:31:59
  a, a Japanese race. And the Japanese runner came
• 1:32:03
  over and he was doing the marathon and he just happened to
• 1:32:06
  come into the group that we were all in.
• 1:32:09
  We're running, I don't know, let's say 663067 minute light
• 1:32:13
  around that sort of pace maybe. And he just jumped on the, we
• 1:32:17
  were into a bit of a headwind towards the end.
• 1:32:20
  And he's got a whole marathon to do.
• 1:32:21
  So he's got another whole lap. And he just said, hop in,
• 1:32:24
  fellas, I got you. And we all just sat behind him
• 1:32:26
  and he just carted us until he and then said goodbye to us when
• 1:32:29
  he had another lap of the marathon to do.
• 1:32:32
  And he was just just chilling, just just just jogging on a day
• 1:32:36
  out. He won by a long way.
• 1:32:38
  But yeah, so. Was he of like negative split or
• 1:32:41
  even split I? Think it was probably.
• 1:32:43
  I think he was even. I think he ran like.
• 1:32:45
  Jeez. Yeah, 213 or something, But
• 1:32:48
  yeah, so like, yeah, it's a good, it's a good course.
• 1:32:52
  I think particularly for the half, maybe it used to get a
• 1:32:55
  little bit warm by the back end of the marathon.
• 1:32:59
  The men's was won by Ryan Gregson in 214 O 5 second, Steve
• 1:33:03
  McKenna 21834 and 3rd Kishi after the Waco in 2/22/11.
• 1:33:10
  So again well I'll do the women's result before this.
• 1:33:13
  So Sarah Short won the women's race in 24112.
• 1:33:17
  Cassie Fein was second in two 4144 and Siobhan Sefton in two
• 1:33:23
  4432. So prize money for this was 4
• 1:33:29
  grand for the win and then A5 grand bonus if you broke 2:15
• 1:33:34
  for the men, which Ryan Gregson did, and 2:30 for the women,
• 1:33:40
  which Sarah Short did not. So a nice 9 grand payday there
• 1:33:45
  for Ryan Gregson. And I hypothesized that a chunk
• 1:33:49
  of that might be going Brett Robinson's way, seen as he paste
• 1:33:52
  them give them a tow for 34K there.
• 1:33:55
  Yeah, it's a pretty solid run. Lights, well, not solo, but you
• 1:33:58
  know. Yeah, what's his PB212213?
• 1:34:03
  I think so, no, that's pretty good conversion on a course like
• 1:34:07
  that, albeit like a home course, definitely makes it a bit
• 1:34:09
  easier. But I feel like it is a new
• 1:34:11
  course, so like it's probably a lot faster than the last one.
• 1:34:15
  Yeah, probably cut that hill out, maybe.
• 1:34:19
  Yeah, last result comes from the USA in a race called Beach, the
• 1:34:23
  Beacon 10K road race. So for the women here, this was
• 1:34:27
  won in somewhat dramatic fashion by Izzy Back Doyle who Dean
• 1:34:32
  interviewed 2 weeks ago. She ran 3125 to fend off like a
• 1:34:39
  massive group of like very talented, I think mainly
• 1:34:42
  American athletes. So there was as Maresh and Leith
• 1:34:47
  second in 3131, Fiona O'Keefe third in 3136.
• 1:34:52
  And then, yeah, the list kind of goes on.
• 1:34:54
  There's a blanket finish there. Sarah Hall is down in 10th and
• 1:34:57
  3232. So I don't say Izzy would have
• 1:35:01
  been surprised that she won that race, but she definitely
• 1:35:04
  wouldn't have been like going over there thinking, oh, I'm a
• 1:35:06
  shoo in for this. And you can kind of tell by like
• 1:35:09
  the the finish line photo that she's like overjoyed with it.
• 1:35:13
  And I think I'd done some digging and perhaps found out
• 1:35:17
  why she might be so overjoyed as well because the prize money for
• 1:35:21
  this one was 10,000 U.S. dollars.
• 1:35:24
  So lovely payday for that It's. About half a million Aussie
• 1:35:29
  dollars at the current exchange. The interesting point here, like
• 1:35:35
  lots of the athletes choosing to do Sydney Marathon over Worlds
• 1:35:39
  because of like the potential payday and all sort of stuff
• 1:35:42
  like that. Whereas Izzy's leant towards the
• 1:35:45
  World Athletics with the prestige side of things, and
• 1:35:48
  then she's gone and raced the 10K in America and got herself
• 1:35:51
  paid anyway, so she'll probably be feeling pretty good right
• 1:35:54
  now. Pretty justified, you can do
• 1:35:56
  both. In the men's race, there's a few
• 1:35:59
  familiar names as well here. So Conor Mance won in 2726 from
• 1:36:04
  Patrick Kiprock 2736 and Tedesse Gabra Selassie in 2743.
• 1:36:11
  Also in that field was noticeable names.
• 1:36:14
  Paddy Diva is the 10,000 meter British athlete in fourth.
• 1:36:18
  I think the guy in fifth, Peter Lynch, he's the Irish marathon
• 1:36:23
  potentially record holder. Yeah, Peter Lynch, Irish
• 1:36:26
  marathon record holder, came fifth in 2755.
• 1:36:29
  Then he bet Clayton Young in eight in 2758.
• 1:36:33
  So 3 seconds between them in 10th Joe Clacker in 2811 and
• 1:36:38
  then 10th. Fun fact about the Latin 10th
• 1:36:41
  Fergal Curtain. Another laugh from Ireland.
• 1:36:44
  He ran 2837 in the under. Let me get this right.
• 1:36:49
  Under 30 in all Ireland he dipped me on the line.
• 1:36:53
  Under 13 cross country, all Ireland he dipped me on the
• 1:36:56
  line. So I got second and he got
• 1:36:58
  first. No.
• 1:37:00
  Boo. But he's training with that
• 1:37:03
  Canadian Rory Linklater now. He was in his most recent
• 1:37:07
  YouTube video, actually. So he's a PM athlete, same Peter
• 1:37:10
  Lynch PM athlete. But it's just incredible to see
• 1:37:12
  Irish lads like sort of tossing with the best up there in
• 1:37:16
  America now. I was wondering why there would
• 1:37:18
  be Irish lads racing in America, but these are guys that are
• 1:37:22
  potentially based over there that just happened to be.
• 1:37:26
  They would went to college over there and now they're after just
• 1:37:28
  like getting picked up by a brand.
• 1:37:30
  And the guy who's in charge of that training group, well,
• 1:37:32
  especially Peter Lynch is Alistair Craig, which is like
• 1:37:37
  Irish running royalty as well. So makes sense.
• 1:37:41
  Yeah, that group does unusually well.
• 1:37:45
  I'm not going to throw around any accusations, but they're
• 1:37:48
  they're pretty, they're pretty good at running.
• 1:37:51
  But yeah, it's a. Good race.
• 1:37:54
  That caps off a very long segment of running results.
• 1:37:58
  But we've also recapped Dean and Owen's race, race weeks in
• 1:38:01
  there. So moving on to YouTube Diaries,
• 1:38:06
  I think we all shared, well, Owen shared this with us earlier
• 1:38:09
  in the week. So don't know who wants to take
• 1:38:11
  the lead on this. I'll take it, I'll take it.
• 1:38:14
  So this just popped up on my YouTube feed.
• 1:38:18
  It was a YouTube channel called Long run Lactic and it was Josh
• 1:38:23
  Hoey. And I feel like Josh Hoey.
• 1:38:25
  He's like he's sort of after coming out of nowhere in the
• 1:38:27
  last little while and he was doing a workout on this track
• 1:38:32
  and I was like, what the hell? And I was like the YouTube like
• 1:38:35
  titles like Josh Hoey. Does it work out on like Josh
• 1:38:38
  Hoey farm or something like this?
• 1:38:40
  And I've done more digging and during COVID everything was
• 1:38:44
  locked down so his father built him a track on his farm.
• 1:38:49
  So a full 400 meter tire and track.
• 1:38:51
  Imagine having that in your back garden.
• 1:38:53
  So him and his brothers and the workout was 3 by 400 and it was
• 1:38:59
  off like 6 minutes rest in between them.
• 1:39:02
  And I think the splits, the reps were the first one was in 48,
• 1:39:10
  second one wasn't 47 and the third one wasn't 49.
• 1:39:14
  He was like pretty pissed off, but like that is incredible.
• 1:39:19
  And his brother would drag him around to like 200 and then peel
• 1:39:22
  off. And it was just, yeah, like,
• 1:39:25
  it's only 1200 meters worth of work.
• 1:39:29
  But that is so fast. And but I just hope so
• 1:39:33
  interesting that he's his own like track because in the video
• 1:39:36
  it started off and like he'd like these two nice Jeeps and
• 1:39:39
  they were like sort of like half on the outside lanes.
• 1:39:42
  And I was like, where the hell is this place?
• 1:39:44
  Nowhere in the world would you get to drive like a freaking
• 1:39:47
  Jeep onto half a track. Like, just you're not allowed.
• 1:39:51
  So yeah, such a. That's so cool.
• 1:39:55
  Yeah, I was trying to do some digging on it as well, because I
• 1:39:58
  was like, what the hell? And then it was an equestrian
• 1:40:02
  field. So like part of the work, they
• 1:40:05
  have to like, level it out first.
• 1:40:07
  So I mean, they clearly live on like a fat plot of land, and
• 1:40:10
  they've got a lot of money. And apparently the father's been
• 1:40:15
  quoted in saying it cost north of $1,000,000.
• 1:40:18
  No exact figure, but that's how much it cost them to put it in
• 1:40:22
  there. Yeah, like a strip, I think a
• 1:40:24
  20M strip of that like turn and track depending on like how much
• 1:40:28
  like it could cost like 20 grand.
• 1:40:30
  Yeah it's 8 lanes as well. Like it's full on legit.
• 1:40:33
  Crazy. Imagine having that in your back
• 1:40:35
  garden. So did you did you see the news
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  the other week where it was like Josh Howie post paste his
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  brother Jonah to like a 14498 or something like this that was on
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  that track. They held their like legit meet
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  there called like the Farmers Classic and like loads of
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  athletes came and raced on it. In the backyard.
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  Yeah. Crazy.
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  He must be the only person with a personal track.
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  In the world. So apparently, you know, you
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  said like he's kind of came out of nowhere and stuff recently.
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  Apparently he attributes like his rise to the built it in
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  COVID and he said The amount of workouts we've done on that
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  during COVID, like I've just got so fit.
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  Nah. Unreal.
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  And lastly, then Double Trouble. We've got a few more news items,
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  but we'll just have to hold them for put them in the legacy list
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  for next week. Double Trouble Now I've got 1.
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  I don't know if any of you have one and you want to go first or
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  I can leave this out and you can follow.
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  You go first. OK.
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  So these have been few and far between recently because I
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  haven't been running and I haven't been on Strava.
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  So I haven't really been seeing much that like it's kind of
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  rattled me or got me on edge. But last week during the week, I
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  was going for a walk down the river one evening, must have
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  been about 9:00 PM. And Dean can attest that Perth
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  has been pretty cold at 9:00 PM. And this guy is running down
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  there in pair of splitties, pair of gloves, a beanie and no
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  T-shirt. Harry Manner.
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  Yeah, chest one. Yeah, he wasn't a bro, he was.
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  He looked like he was built like a runner anyway and he was
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  travelling like he was doing a steady run, like 4 minute case
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  or something pretty easily. And I was just like why?
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  Why are you shirtless? It's cold, but why have you got
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  gloves and a hat on as well? Yeah, makes no sense.
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  Does not. Say, that one just rattled me
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  and I got my phone out straight away and put it in the notes.
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  Double trouble. I heard Dean around that time.
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  Running home from work. And I don't want anyone digging
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  out pictures of like me topless because they'll be in 30° heat.
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  Like I'm just getting there before you get there.
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  Don't do it in the cold. We're actually just trying to
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  get pictures of you at the Barber with the sweaty back and
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  the. Oh, it was Speaking of which
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  like that. We did have some funny replies
• 1:43:10
  to that, didn't we? So thanks to everyone who sent
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  them in. I reckon Susie's one where she
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  ran to a wedding like must take. The win there, there was
• 1:43:21
  actually a lot of really good ones, yeah, a lot of relatable
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  stories, I think. Yeah, Ollie from my run club
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  back home ran to Tesco to get his passport photo done.
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  So with a no doubt been sat in the in the little stool with a
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  sweaty back as well. There's the feeling and boys,
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  have you got anything else before I wrap it up?
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  No, Dean's yawning here in front of us.
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  He's ready for bed. I'm I'm a lot older.
• 1:43:51
  I need my beauty sleep. Guys, I'm going to get a pizza
• 1:43:54
  for dinner later and I cannot wait.
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  I've been trying to eat so clean leading up to the race and all
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  my mates have been getting pizza and all this and I'm like no no
• 1:44:03
  no I'll hold off. So I'm getting a pizza tonight
• 1:44:05
  for dinner. Can't wait.
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  I was going to say, you know, you know, I'm not photo on your
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  story in the island top. Oh, that's me.
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  That's the county I'm from, Yeah.
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  Oh yeah, that your your your jaw lines looking very Josh care ask
• 1:44:18
  there. I just love a long.
• 1:44:20
  Way to go. I'm still carrying a few extra
• 1:44:22
  pounds of sugar but slowly will. Surely it should fall off?
• 1:44:27
  All right, then, well, if you've if you've stayed this far,
• 1:44:29
  hopefully you've enjoyed the massive results round up and our
• 1:44:33
  takes. So just to remind you, jump into
• 1:44:36
  the Strava group and we'll, we'll see what's been happening
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  over the this week when we get to next week's episode and
• 1:44:42
  hopefully we'll be able to start building some momentum in there.
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  So cheers everyone for your time.
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  See you next week.