Latest / The You Project / #2157 The 'New' Analog Cars - Patrick Bonello
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I'll get a team. It's you, project, it's Patrick, it's Tiffany,
- 0:02Speaker 1: it's Craig. I hope you bloody terrific. It's a Saturday
- 0:05Speaker 1: morning in Melbourne and already this morning I'm in trouble.
- 0:09Speaker 1: I haven't even seen anyone, but I'm in trouble. TIF
- 0:12Speaker 1: would you like to tell everyone why I'm in trouble?
- 0:14Speaker 2: What I did?
- 0:15Speaker 3: Because I logged in eight thirty ready to go, waiting
- 0:20Speaker 3: for the host to start the meeting, eight thirty one
- 0:22Speaker 3: miles around Craig Anthony Harper. I thought, that little mongrel,
- 0:25Speaker 3: he's changed the time on me again and he has
- 0:27Speaker 3: an updated the schedule. But no, he was having a coffee,
- 0:31Speaker 3: just having a coffee, living his life.
- 0:34Speaker 1: I was just living my best life down there at
- 0:36Speaker 1: the Hampton's, thinking I'm going to be chatting to Patty
- 0:38Speaker 1: in about twenty nine minutes. And at eight thirty one
- 0:40Speaker 1: I did get a message from the Coin of the
- 0:42Speaker 1: World analogous to where the fuck are you? And and
- 0:48Speaker 1: then I went, you know when you have that sinking feeling.
- 0:51Speaker 1: But what was good was you thought.
- 0:54Speaker 2: I'd changed or Patrick had changed and I hadn't contacted you,
- 0:58Speaker 2: which was not the case the case for, we're still
- 1:01Speaker 2: doing it just fifteen minutes later.
- 1:02Speaker 1: So Patrick, good morning, and thank you for accommodating me,
- 1:06Speaker 1: and apologies for my tardiness.
- 1:08Speaker 4: Well look, I can't really get too angry because I
- 1:11Speaker 4: was the one who originally changed the time because I
- 1:14Speaker 4: had a little fun job yesterday to go and fly
- 1:17Speaker 4: my drone at a bat sunrise, So that was my
- 1:21Speaker 4: little gig that I went to. So I kind of yeah,
- 1:24Speaker 4: I'm not going to get it too too by the
- 1:26Speaker 4: fact that you were having coffee while Tif and I
- 1:28Speaker 4: were having a chin wag.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Tif, I have not Let's start with you.
- 1:33Speaker 1: I haven't seen very much of you this week, and
- 1:35Speaker 1: I usually see you at the gym or at the
- 1:37Speaker 1: cafe or somewhere with your handbag that will call Scott
- 1:42Speaker 1: for the moment just in tow the man bag will
- 1:45Speaker 1: call him.
- 1:46Speaker 2: We love him. Good I Scotty. What have you been
- 1:50Speaker 2: doing this week? Why have you been scarce? What is
- 1:54Speaker 2: going on?
- 1:54Speaker 1: Are you just planning in the wedding and you just
- 1:56Speaker 1: want to I don't know. Have you been busy seeing
- 1:58Speaker 1: caterers and fucking diamond sellers and it's been going on?
- 2:04Speaker 3: I can't remember where I've been, but I haven't been
- 2:06Speaker 3: able to make the gym as much. But I would
- 2:08Speaker 3: love to inform you that yesterday I did do myself
- 2:12Speaker 3: a one hundred and seventeen and a half killogram did lift?
- 2:17Speaker 2: Wow? Wow?
- 2:19Speaker 5: Thank you?
- 2:20Speaker 2: One hundred and seventeen. Let's see that's that's.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Probably in the ballpark of two fifty. I'd have to
- 2:27Speaker 1: check it, but you can check it. Well done. How
- 2:29Speaker 1: was it was it? Did you newly shoot your kidney
- 2:32Speaker 1: out of your ass in the attempt? Or was it
- 2:34Speaker 1: somewhat comfortable or somewhat comfortable? I'm chasing the one twenty halfs.
- 2:40Speaker 1: We've done it once before, a couple years ago. But
- 2:41Speaker 1: remember I started.
- 2:42Speaker 3: I took it off the rack and started from the top,
- 2:44Speaker 3: which is really a bit cheaty to a bit easier.
- 2:47Speaker 5: So taking it straight from the ground, I'm excited. I could.
- 2:51Speaker 3: I think it's safe. We probably call it a PB
- 2:53Speaker 3: as it stands.
- 2:55Speaker 2: One seventeen and a half. That is very good. Congratulations.
- 2:58Speaker 1: Now, just to give this context, and I know you
- 3:00Speaker 1: don't mind, so don't send me an email your body
- 3:03Speaker 1: weight because it's like if you weigh one hundred and
- 3:05Speaker 1: twenty kilos one hundred and seventye and a half. Still good,
- 3:08Speaker 1: but it's like not as impressive as if you're in
- 3:12Speaker 1: your sixties. So what is your current body weight, give
- 3:15Speaker 1: or take?
- 3:16Speaker 5: I think about what sixty one sixty two kilos?
- 3:18Speaker 1: That is very think about that, Patrick, that's almost double
- 3:22Speaker 1: body weight. That is impressive, isn't it. Well let me
- 3:25Speaker 1: put this to you. On a Monday morning, I do
- 3:27Speaker 1: a roll down.
- 3:28Speaker 4: Where I grab weights just to work my lower back
- 3:32Speaker 4: and I use twenty killers.
- 3:35Speaker 2: Yeah that's okay, that's all right. You're very strong, Patrick,
- 3:39Speaker 2: that's right, that's right, and we love you just how
- 3:42Speaker 2: you are in my lower back.
- 3:44Speaker 4: I just build you know, the little muscles and the
- 3:46Speaker 4: lower back. You know, you do what.
- 3:50Speaker 5: Dude as well? You could probably do a one seventeen kilo?
- 3:52Speaker 5: Did live likely?
- 3:54Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 3:54Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say, Tip's probably got a
- 3:56Speaker 1: bit more testosterone than you, So don't feel bad.
- 4:01Speaker 2: And so what's the schedule, Tip, When are you going
- 4:04Speaker 2: to do? So sixty one kilos? So when you do
- 4:07Speaker 2: one twenty two, you'll be doubling your body weight, which
- 4:10Speaker 2: for anyone, anyone that's like even to deadlift your body
- 4:14Speaker 2: weight is a pretty nice achievement. Male or female. It's
- 4:19Speaker 2: not mind blowing, but it's still really good.
- 4:22Speaker 1: Like a sixty kilo deadlift picking something up off the
- 4:26Speaker 1: floor that weighs sixty kilograms, it's no joke, and you're
- 4:31Speaker 1: almost doubling that. So when are we going to what's
- 4:34Speaker 1: the timeline on the one twenty on?
- 4:36Speaker 3: No, but I think I need to be a bit
- 4:38Speaker 3: more structured. You know, I'm not super structured at my
- 4:43Speaker 3: training in terms of chasing strength gains like that. You know,
- 4:47Speaker 3: I'm a little bit variable. It's like I'll do a
- 4:49Speaker 3: little bit of this, a little bit of that. So
- 4:51Speaker 3: I haven't deadlifted heavy all that frequently lately, which is
- 4:54Speaker 3: why I run seventeen.
- 4:55Speaker 2: And a half.
- 4:55Speaker 5: Was maybe really excited. So maybe you can give me
- 4:59Speaker 5: a timeline.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Yeah, I will.
- 5:01Speaker 1: But when you said I'm not super structured at and
- 5:04Speaker 1: then you paused, I was going to say life, but
- 5:06Speaker 1: then you went.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Ahead with you're not structured. Your whole life is fucking freestyle. Yeah. Yeah,
- 5:16Speaker 2: this time last year you hated men, and now you've
- 5:19Speaker 2: got an impending wedding. I mean, make up your mind,
- 5:22Speaker 2: make up your mind.
- 5:25Speaker 3: I speak by the way you look at that banda
- 5:29Speaker 3: in the background, loven't here, little country cottage.
- 5:33Speaker 4: It's cute, isn't it. I'm waiting for my invit I'll
- 5:36Speaker 4: tell you though, I don't can't imagine doing any exercise
- 5:39Speaker 4: that had has the word dead in it.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but you do pull off dead pan quite well. Yes, thanks, Yes,
- 5:50Speaker 2: you know if there was a time there, which is
- 5:52Speaker 2: absolutely fine. But I thought you might have liked girls.
- 5:56Speaker 3: Look, if I'm honest, I was saying to think, well,
- 5:58Speaker 3: perhaps perhaps I do. Yeah, maybe I've got myself wrong.
- 6:04Speaker 3: This old time community, the community sitting on the sidelines,
- 6:08Speaker 3: cheering me on, waiting, come on, just come over here
- 6:12Speaker 3: with us.
- 6:13Speaker 4: We're going to move in together and have our platonic
- 6:16Speaker 4: kind of relationship and.
- 6:17Speaker 3: Just get that wedding guy we were that was pretty close.
- 6:21Speaker 4: I know who got? Really?
- 6:22Speaker 2: What on earth? What? No? I don't want to ask.
- 6:25Speaker 2: I do not want to ask. I try to think
- 6:28Speaker 2: about the practicalities of that particular relationship. But that's all right.
- 6:33Speaker 4: Battery is just a good supply of Patrick.
- 6:35Speaker 2: Oh, Patrick, Patrick, Patrick.
- 6:40Speaker 1: I don't even want to ask you how your week
- 6:42Speaker 1: is but has been, but I will How is your week?
- 6:44Speaker 2: Mean? Patrick?
- 6:45Speaker 1: What's other than flying drones and pretending that's a job,
- 6:49Speaker 1: which it's definitely not a job.
- 6:51Speaker 2: Well not for you, but well done.
- 6:53Speaker 1: I feel like someone saying would you mind getting some
- 6:55Speaker 1: drone footage to you is like saying the tip, would
- 6:59Speaker 1: you mind eating some.
- 7:00Speaker 2: Chocolate for me?
- 7:01Speaker 4: It's a bit like that. Yeah, you're right. I had
- 7:04Speaker 4: a couple of interesting things happened. I for the first
- 7:07Speaker 4: time was interviewed for a podcast, which was really weird
- 7:11Speaker 4: because we've played podcasting for years. I've been on radio,
- 7:14Speaker 4: but to have somebody interview me and that podcast comes
- 7:18Speaker 4: in on Monday and I kind of listening to it
- 7:21Speaker 4: back was really weird because I kept wanting to have
- 7:24Speaker 4: a conversation with the other person, ask some questions about elves.
- 7:28Speaker 4: But it was kind of surreal. It was an hour
- 7:31Speaker 4: and twenty minutes as well. I just come out. It
- 7:34Speaker 4: was fun. It was really interesting. Someone recommended me. It's
- 7:37Speaker 4: called When I Was Young and it talks about your backstory,
- 7:41Speaker 4: you know, what was it like growing up? Really insightful questions.
- 7:45Speaker 4: I think what helps is the woman that I met,
- 7:47Speaker 4: Nina FROMHOLDT. She's so nice. She interviewed Christine Nixon, remember
- 7:51Speaker 4: the cop the police, So she's got some pretty decent people.
- 7:55Speaker 4: She's spoken to him, thinking why the hell did she
- 7:58Speaker 4: want to talk to me? But yeah, there you go.
- 8:00Speaker 4: It was very surreal being on a podcast where you
- 8:02Speaker 4: are the subjects.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Well go you it's called When I was young. Yeah, Patrick,
- 8:08Speaker 1: it's out Monday. Congratulations. Well you do have and I
- 8:13Speaker 1: think most people have an interesting backstory if you can say, yeah,
- 8:16Speaker 1: if you stop skimming and you kind of do a
- 8:18Speaker 1: little bit of a deep dive as deep as people
- 8:22Speaker 1: are comfortable to go. But TIFF's showing off over there,
- 8:27Speaker 1: which is no good from a visual point of view.
- 8:29Speaker 1: But Tiff, but tell us who you've got jumping on?
- 8:32Speaker 1: Is that Scott?
- 8:33Speaker 2: Or is that? Who is that?
- 8:35Speaker 5: This is Chevy?
- 8:37Speaker 3: He's got Staffy who should And I dapped out for
- 8:41Speaker 3: ten minutes for coffee, ate my good shoes, so Chevy.
- 8:46Speaker 2: Is well, then why on earth are you patting him?
- 8:49Speaker 5: Because look at his face?
- 8:53Speaker 1: It's like Patrick, when I see him, I want to
- 8:56Speaker 1: be mad at him, but I just squeezed his little
- 8:58Speaker 1: fat face, his cheeks, he's beautiful face.
- 9:03Speaker 2: How's that? Patrick? Let's dive into the show.
- 9:06Speaker 1: So the way this works, everybody is Patrick sends me
- 9:09Speaker 1: some dot points that we're going to chat about and
- 9:13Speaker 1: around that. If you've never heard this, by the way,
- 9:15Speaker 1: of course you have. Otherwise where have you been You've
- 9:18Speaker 1: been missing out? We freestyle tip runs the show, Patrick
- 9:22Speaker 1: and I try and hang on desperately.
- 9:26Speaker 2: So point one is I'm funnier than Harps.
- 9:30Speaker 1: Now, let me tell you, somebody probably listen to the
- 9:34Speaker 1: podcast and told you you're funny, which is I'm fine
- 9:37Speaker 1: with that.
- 9:37Speaker 2: By the way. Yeah, who gave you that feedback?
- 9:42Speaker 4: Brad and his dog Bella in gipps Land. So I
- 9:44Speaker 4: don't know if it was Brad or Bella who actually
- 9:46Speaker 4: suggested that I was funnier than you, but I thought
- 9:49Speaker 4: it was nice. That's your old stumping ground out that way.
- 9:51Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I know of Brad.
- 9:54Speaker 1: I think Brad follows me and leaves quite a few comments.
- 9:58Speaker 2: He seems like a good man. I know that we've
- 10:00Speaker 2: ever met. But well, there's no doubt you're funnier than me.
- 10:04Speaker 2: You're looking Nah, you're funny to mean, No, I'm just
- 10:09Speaker 2: the glue that tries to hold you to weirdows together. Well.
- 10:13Speaker 4: The reason he can't tact me because we always welcome
- 10:15Speaker 4: people contacting us to talk about stuff. But he was
- 10:20Speaker 4: at a local Centerlink office, got talking to the woman
- 10:22Speaker 4: there and found out her friend is buying an old
- 10:26Speaker 4: the old hospital slash morgue at potentially mental hospital in Bland.
- 10:31Speaker 4: Now I don't think it was a mental hospital, but
- 10:32Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure at one point it was a morgue.
- 10:34Speaker 4: So I did a bit of research, Brad, and I
- 10:36Speaker 4: found out that in the nineteenth century that dead bodies
- 10:43Speaker 4: were actually held in the cellars of hotels because there
- 10:47Speaker 4: weren't any morgues. So yeah, basically your barrel of beer
- 10:52Speaker 4: and stuff and a stiff next to it. That's kind
- 10:55Speaker 4: of a cloud free thing, isn't it, And a stiffy
- 10:58Speaker 4: because jener it doesn't work that way.
- 11:01Speaker 1: No, just step over the cadavers and you'll find the
- 11:03Speaker 1: wine rack, Brian. So that's that's unpleasant. But I guess, well,
- 11:09Speaker 1: refrigeration in the context of the evolutionary timeline, we've had
- 11:13Speaker 1: refrigeration for about eight seconds, so I wonder what they.
- 11:16Speaker 2: Did hundreds of years ago. Let's not think about it. Well, Brad,
- 11:20Speaker 2: thanks for that, and I'll take that on board that
- 11:23Speaker 2: I need to be funnier.
- 11:24Speaker 4: But you know that that took me down a bit
- 11:26Speaker 4: of a rabbit hole, because the other thing in the
- 11:29Speaker 4: land is we have two cemeteries, so.
- 11:34Speaker 2: With a very small population, that seems like a lot.
- 11:38Speaker 4: Well, one of the cemeteries, the original Bland Cemetery, which
- 11:40Speaker 4: is kind of on the road that goes from Dalsford
- 11:42Speaker 4: to Geelong, that hadn't been used for about one hundred years,
- 11:46Speaker 4: and then in two thousand and seven, by coincidence, the
- 11:49Speaker 4: year that I moved here, they start they turned it
- 11:53Speaker 4: into a pau per cemetery. So it's kind of sad.
- 11:57Speaker 2: So basically, do you mean like homeless people.
- 12:00Speaker 4: Yeah, people who die without family or connections get buried there.
- 12:05Speaker 4: And when you go there, there are all these white crosses,
- 12:09Speaker 4: like just a whole field of white crosses and just
- 12:12Speaker 4: a name and sometimes a year next to them. It's
- 12:15Speaker 4: it's kind of really sad when you wander through and
- 12:17Speaker 4: see that. And I do go out there every now
- 12:19Speaker 4: and again. I know it sounds morbid, doesn't it. Fritz
- 12:21Speaker 4: and I go out there every now and again. We
- 12:23Speaker 4: walk through our local cemetery almost every morning. And I've
- 12:25Speaker 4: got to apologize to Mary Glenny, she died in the
- 12:28Speaker 4: eighteen hundreds. But Fritz seems to like to piss on
- 12:30Speaker 4: her grave every time we walk past.
- 12:33Speaker 2: I wish she didn't say that, because one of her
- 12:36Speaker 2: family is going to probably somewhere down the genealogy, someone's
- 12:41Speaker 2: going to listen to this and lightly yeah, like she does.
- 12:46Speaker 1: You target the same on it? Well, he probably targets
- 12:48Speaker 1: the same one every time because it smells.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Like we yeah, yeah, it's like, hang on, this is familiar. Oh,
- 12:54Speaker 2: this is many last Tuesday.
- 12:56Speaker 4: It's quite an ostentatious grave though, and it's right at
- 12:58Speaker 4: the entrance to the cemetery. Makes sense. You know, you've
- 13:01Speaker 4: got to bring people back down to earth.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Oh, she's you're Patrick. Can you not be happy for
- 13:07Speaker 2: people if they do well? Patrick? Yeah, okay, even when
- 13:11Speaker 2: they're dead. Even when they're dead, you've still got to
- 13:15Speaker 2: do that.
- 13:16Speaker 4: People are dying to get to Bland. Sorry, anyway, that's.
- 13:21Speaker 1: Definitely not the funniest on the show. We'll just have
- 13:24Speaker 1: to read it a meta contractor met to m A
- 13:32Speaker 1: t A. Of course, everyone met a contractor fires one thousand,
- 13:36Speaker 1: one hundred AI trainers after they revealed ray Ban Glasses
- 13:42Speaker 1: recorded private and intimate footage this We chatted.
- 13:47Speaker 4: About this back in February, and what seems that's happened
- 13:50Speaker 4: is there's a lot of AI oversight where real people
- 13:54Speaker 4: are working in sweatshops, and that's the accusation that places
- 13:59Speaker 4: like Nairobi where people are paid two bucks a day
- 14:02Speaker 4: to look at all this footage that is being recorded
- 14:06Speaker 4: by people wearing smart glasses, and in some instances, the
- 14:10Speaker 4: people wearing those smart glasses have no idea they're being filmed.
- 14:14Speaker 4: So if you go to the bathroom, you know, you
- 14:16Speaker 4: look at your banking details, it's all being recorded. So
- 14:19Speaker 4: staff would try to do the right thing and say
- 14:23Speaker 4: to their bosses that we're actually seeing stuff we probably
- 14:26Speaker 4: shouldn't be seeing. Well, it got very controversial and the
- 14:30Speaker 4: company got dumped by Matter and then they went and
- 14:34Speaker 4: sacked all their staff at the same time. So I
- 14:37Speaker 4: guess this is the whole argument about the use of
- 14:41Speaker 4: smart glasses and recording things, and you know, people are
- 14:45Speaker 4: being stalked. There's stories out of the UK where a
- 14:48Speaker 4: woman was told by a person who recorded her and
- 14:51Speaker 4: then posted it on Facebook that she had to pay
- 14:56Speaker 4: if she wanted to have that video footage taken down.
- 14:58Speaker 4: So there are creeps out there, you know, glass holes,
- 15:03Speaker 4: But yeah, it's a thing, and I guess, I don't know.
- 15:07Speaker 4: I love the idea that we can use them positively
- 15:10Speaker 4: in Korea at the moment, if you go to a
- 15:13Speaker 4: stage play, they're handing out smart glasses so they can
- 15:16Speaker 4: do real time, live translations for people who don't speak Korean.
- 15:20Speaker 4: I mean, how cool is that?
- 15:22Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool.
- 15:24Speaker 1: I just think though that anything where you know, like
- 15:28Speaker 1: you said that, oh, the people in the company were
- 15:30Speaker 1: trying to do the right thing, and you go, you're
- 15:33Speaker 1: always going to get one person or more that isn't
- 15:36Speaker 1: going to do like if we just leave it up
- 15:38Speaker 1: to you know, moment by moment decisions about individual humans
- 15:45Speaker 1: just watching something on a screen. That's a very very
- 15:49Speaker 1: hard way to police anything and protect anything because then
- 15:53Speaker 1: you're relying on the integrity of an individual that you
- 15:56Speaker 1: don't know, rather than there being no way that that
- 16:01Speaker 1: can be recorded like that. It needs to be there
- 16:04Speaker 1: needs to be something very concrete otherwise people.
- 16:07Speaker 2: Of course, people will take advantage of that because that's
- 16:10Speaker 2: what that's what some humans do.
- 16:13Speaker 4: And we spoke about this last time, I think where
- 16:15Speaker 4: we mentioned that every time you install an app on
- 16:18Speaker 4: your phone, so even if it's not smart glasses. When
- 16:21Speaker 4: you give it permission to access your photos and camera,
- 16:24Speaker 4: what are you actually giving away? Yeah, no one reads
- 16:28Speaker 4: the terms and conditions. At the end of the day.
- 16:31Speaker 4: Who has time to read twenty five pages of terms
- 16:34Speaker 4: and conditions in legal speak? Maybe copy and paste it
- 16:37Speaker 4: into AI and say is there anything threatening about what
- 16:40Speaker 4: I've just find my life away with? But you get it, though,
- 16:44Speaker 4: we all do it. We always hit that I accept
- 16:46Speaker 4: button because no one wants to read anything and just
- 16:48Speaker 4: install the app and off you go.
- 16:51Speaker 1: Think about though, whenever yes, I agree with you, but
- 16:54Speaker 1: whenever you post anything of you publicly, well the world's
- 16:58Speaker 1: got it, you know, there's just you've got access to
- 17:00Speaker 1: your life.
- 17:01Speaker 2: You're what are you smiling at Tiff about this?
- 17:05Speaker 3: And then I just looked over and realized that Scott
- 17:08Speaker 3: has logged into the dog camera and turned it around
- 17:10Speaker 3: and is watching me.
- 17:12Speaker 4: See, that's creepy, creepy.
- 17:15Speaker 2: What do you mean the dog camera? Like everyone has
- 17:17Speaker 2: a fucking dog camera.
- 17:19Speaker 5: It's you can watch the dog eat my.
- 17:21Speaker 2: Shoes, Scott. That's what is that called? Patrick? That's voyeuristic.
- 17:29Speaker 2: That's creepy, fucking creepy.
- 17:31Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to reassess that relationship right now, your
- 17:37Speaker 1: big boy pants and we need to have a chat.
- 17:39Speaker 4: Is there a bedroom cam for the dog as well?
- 17:42Speaker 5: Definitely not.
- 17:43Speaker 6: There's definitely not that you know of that you know of,
- 17:48Speaker 6: Oh yeah, we'd be like look around.
- 17:51Speaker 1: Yeah, Patrick, and I review that footage to go who's
- 17:54Speaker 1: back is that?
- 17:55Speaker 2: Because that's Wide? We go, oh, that's Tiff.
- 17:58Speaker 4: It's not Heiry though it has to be.
- 18:00Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's right, it's Harry and wide, that's tiv.
- 18:06Speaker 2: Ah. That's not nice?
- 18:10Speaker 1: Is that we know that Scott has a wax narrowback,
- 18:12Speaker 1: But that's all right.
- 18:14Speaker 4: I haven't met him yet.
- 18:15Speaker 2: I should have loved this episode.
- 18:17Speaker 4: What I should reserve judgment because I'm only have a
- 18:19Speaker 4: video chatter to him. I really am looking forward to
- 18:21Speaker 4: tif coming down with you guys.
- 18:23Speaker 2: Well, he does have nail polish and nothing wrong with that,
- 18:27Speaker 2: and big hoopy earrings, and he is and a plethora
- 18:32Speaker 2: of tats. He is a unit, but a lovable unit,
- 18:35Speaker 2: like I like people that are a little bit and
- 18:37Speaker 2: he would free. In fact, he would embrace that. He
- 18:41Speaker 2: would embrace that. Patrick. I have been aware for a
- 18:44Speaker 2: while that.
- 18:48Speaker 1: One of the ways that prisoners get drugs is their
- 18:51Speaker 1: friends fly those drugs in using drones into the prison yard.
- 18:56Speaker 2: You've got a story about that, tell us about that.
- 18:58Speaker 4: Well, that's a big problem in the UK, particularly because
- 19:01Speaker 4: a lot of the prisons are really old, made in
- 19:04Speaker 4: the eighteen hundreds, and so they can't put the protections
- 19:07Speaker 4: they normally would have, So for example, they put nets up, like.
- 19:11Speaker 2: So, can I pause you look at look at her?
- 19:13Speaker 4: What she did?
- 19:14Speaker 2: Could you get off you? Could you get off your phone?
- 19:19Speaker 2: Get off your phone? You're meant to be co hosting
- 19:22Speaker 2: a podcast.
- 19:23Speaker 3: What's your message from him saying knuckles, I'm listening, not watching.
- 19:28Speaker 1: Yeah, could you Well you shouldn't know that because you
- 19:31Speaker 1: shouldn't be looking at your phone like Patrick and I aren't.
- 19:34Speaker 1: Either you're a co host in your present or you're
- 19:37Speaker 1: flirting with your boyfriend slash girlfriend.
- 19:40Speaker 2: What is it?
- 19:42Speaker 4: I reckon you should pedalize her. And she doesn't get
- 19:44Speaker 4: weekend rates for working Today's exactly.
- 19:47Speaker 2: I'm going to reduce it back to Tuesday rates. She
- 19:51Speaker 2: actually is the only one being paid on this thing.
- 19:55Speaker 2: Not a lot, of course, but nonetheless, tifo or you'll
- 20:01Speaker 2: be back on probation, Patrick tell us, I apologize so
- 20:05Speaker 2: old prisons in England, drones, drugs. I just had to
- 20:09Speaker 2: draw your attention to Tiff, who may as well not
- 20:12Speaker 2: have even been here. Go on, Well, the issue.
- 20:15Speaker 4: They've got is there's been an increase in over one
- 20:18Speaker 4: thousand percent in the last ten years of people flying
- 20:22Speaker 4: contraband into the prisons, and they can't put netting in
- 20:26Speaker 4: front of the bars and the windows and things to
- 20:28Speaker 4: stop the drones or to stop people from reaching out
- 20:31Speaker 4: and grabbing the drone delivery. But you know what, the
- 20:34Speaker 4: funniest thing about this was this is hilarious. So some
- 20:39Speaker 4: of the packages are up to fifteen kilos and I'm thinking, yeah, weapons, knives,
- 20:44Speaker 4: hard drugs, No, you know what they're bringing in. They're
- 20:47Speaker 4: bringing in weight loss, hair loss drugs and abombolic steroids
- 20:52Speaker 4: and fast food, Like, what the hell are they worried about?
- 20:56Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Brian and self ivers on ozen pic again.
- 21:01Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's looking fucking amazing though, if I
- 21:07Speaker 1: need stop buying McDonald's with the same.
- 21:09Speaker 4: Drive, isn't that hilarious? So that's the biggest problem of
- 21:13Speaker 4: the contraband being buried in on drones. But so evidently
- 21:17Speaker 4: the walls crumbling and that's why they can't attach anything
- 21:20Speaker 4: to the outside of the walls. But if the walls
- 21:22Speaker 4: are crumbling that badly, get a toothpick or a toothbrush
- 21:26Speaker 4: and dig yourself out. Why are they even in the
- 21:28Speaker 4: prison in the first place. If those walls are fallen down,
- 21:31Speaker 4: I'd be digging out from the inside.
- 21:34Speaker 2: There's probably But why between them and that, I don't know.
- 21:37Speaker 2: Who knows? There's a new wave Patrick.
- 21:41Speaker 1: This is very relevant to tif who has an extensive wardrobe.
- 21:45Speaker 1: To create a digital wardrobe for your Google Photos, I
- 21:49Speaker 1: love it.
- 21:50Speaker 4: I want Well, okay, so what Google's offering now is
- 21:54Speaker 4: it will go through every photo of you that you've
- 21:57Speaker 4: ever taken that you've saved into Google Photos. It will
- 22:00Speaker 4: then catalog the clothing that you were wearing. And then
- 22:05Speaker 4: you can say to Google, I'm going out with Tiff
- 22:08Speaker 4: and we're going to a really nice restaurant. What out
- 22:11Speaker 4: should I be wearing? And it will go through all
- 22:13Speaker 4: of your photos, your virtual wardrobe. It will even overlay
- 22:16Speaker 4: them on top of you, so the right the pointy shoes,
- 22:19Speaker 4: the nice tie, the bow tie, all that sort of stuff,
- 22:22Speaker 4: the fares, whatever it is you happen to be wearing.
- 22:25Speaker 4: So it will catalog everything and put it all together.
- 22:28Speaker 4: Just think of it. Crago, you can catalog your collection
- 22:31Speaker 4: of knee length shorts, Miller shirts, and tracksuit pants.
- 22:34Speaker 1: It'd be awesome. Yes, I knew that was coming. I
- 22:37Speaker 1: don't have a Miller shirt anymore, although I did give
- 22:40Speaker 1: them a good go in the eighties and nineties.
- 22:43Speaker 2: It's so rude to you. My flannel range is fucking extensive, though.
- 22:48Speaker 1: But when you said I'm going out with Tiff, I
- 22:50Speaker 1: thought you were going to say to some underground cage
- 22:52Speaker 1: fighting or something. But like, that's more likely than wherever
- 22:57Speaker 1: you suggested. Oh god, I think tif you're a bit
- 23:02Speaker 1: of a me Like you don't wear lots of different clothes.
- 23:06Speaker 2: No.
- 23:06Speaker 3: I to visit a friend yesterday before going to an
- 23:11Speaker 3: event at luncheon, and I felt like apologizing to her
- 23:15Speaker 3: because I was dressed up.
- 23:16Speaker 5: I felt like I needed to be like, I'm sorry
- 23:19Speaker 5: that I am dressed up today.
- 23:22Speaker 2: Bit fancy, well you are.
- 23:24Speaker 1: It's you know, it's the Crabs kids twenty first tonight,
- 23:27Speaker 1: young Jamie who will never listen to this, but happy birthday, Jamie?
- 23:31Speaker 2: Who is? How about this? Everyone? And this is I
- 23:35Speaker 2: feel bad saying this after your one seventeen but she
- 23:39Speaker 2: competed at the Nationals on the weekend TIF Do you
- 23:42Speaker 2: know what she did? Lifted ah No. One five?
- 23:48Speaker 5: That is insane?
- 23:50Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah that is.
- 23:52Speaker 1: Now, by the way, this is one of the strongest
- 23:54Speaker 1: young girls in Australasia. Everybody who's a competitive powerlifter. So
- 23:59Speaker 1: what tiff is lifting is obscene. But what Jamie's lifting
- 24:05Speaker 1: and she's twenty If she turns twenty one in a
- 24:07Speaker 1: couple of days, it's a birthday thing tonight.
- 24:09Speaker 2: But yeah, that's crazy.
- 24:11Speaker 1: But I was going to say, so, I'm actually dusting
- 24:14Speaker 1: off some jeans, which is you know, that's a big
- 24:18Speaker 1: deal for me.
- 24:20Speaker 5: I'm dusting sa selfie.
- 24:22Speaker 1: We need to can I tell you I bought new
- 24:25Speaker 1: jeans the other day and this is I know, we'll
- 24:27Speaker 1: get back on track Patrick, I apologize.
- 24:29Speaker 2: He's like, fuck your jeans, get onto my list. This
- 24:33Speaker 2: is how bad I am. So I had these old jeans,
- 24:36Speaker 2: which were really good jeans, but they just started to
- 24:39Speaker 2: fuck up and they get little tears in them, and
- 24:41Speaker 2: so I used to get cloth tape, you know, the
- 24:44Speaker 2: black heavy duty like you'd repair a tent with, and
- 24:47Speaker 2: I put them inside my jeans, right, so not on
- 24:51Speaker 2: the outside. So it would kind of hold it together. Well,
- 24:53Speaker 2: I did that for about three years, so I would
- 24:56Speaker 2: turn up to corporate gigs wearing jeans that had all
- 24:59Speaker 2: this black cloth tape, cloth tape inside.
- 25:02Speaker 1: Anyway, I went out last week and lashed out. I
- 25:05Speaker 1: haven't worn them yet, so they're debuting tonight. Yes, you've
- 25:08Speaker 1: got your hand up.
- 25:09Speaker 5: You can bring your old ones to me and I'll
- 25:11Speaker 5: get Scotty to sew them up.
- 25:14Speaker 2: That is so funny. Do you know her bloke is?
- 25:16Speaker 2: What is?
- 25:18Speaker 1: He can sew? He's like a micheline chef. He's very handy.
- 25:24Speaker 3: If nothing else everything, Well, he's my favorite top that
- 25:29Speaker 3: I thought I was never going to be able to
- 25:30Speaker 3: wear again.
- 25:31Speaker 5: And I was confused as to why I hadn't.
- 25:33Speaker 3: Thrown it out yet because I'm like, well, I'm never
- 25:35Speaker 3: going to be able to wear this again. And then
- 25:37Speaker 3: I caught sight of this sewing business, and yeah.
- 25:43Speaker 2: Not only can he sew, he can actually do things
- 25:46Speaker 2: like a seamstress. Yeah, yeah, well definitely you should never
- 25:51Speaker 2: get rid of him.
- 25:53Speaker 4: Hey, Craiger, you know, interestingly, I've used gaffer tape on
- 25:56Speaker 4: my on my pants as well on the inside, stuck
- 25:59Speaker 4: them together. It were Yeah, it's perfect.
- 26:02Speaker 2: And if you go, did you use the cloth tape
- 26:04Speaker 2: or the gaffer tape?
- 26:06Speaker 4: No, gaffer. I don't have cloth tape a home. I
- 26:08Speaker 4: just use gaff.
- 26:08Speaker 1: The cloloth tape's incredible, Like it's stronger than the actual
- 26:12Speaker 1: fabric most times.
- 26:13Speaker 2: Yeah. So I know people are like, doesn't he make money?
- 26:19Speaker 4: Yeah, you think about that much. The freaky thing about
- 26:22Speaker 4: my trousers is that my right knee always wears out
- 26:25Speaker 4: before the other knee. And that's been happening since primary school.
- 26:29Speaker 4: I used to get into so much trouble from my mum.
- 26:31Speaker 4: She'd say, were you paying marbles on that knee? It's
- 26:33Speaker 4: like no, and I'm still doing it now. I've got
- 26:36Speaker 4: one one right knee always wears out. If you look
- 26:39Speaker 4: at my old jeans, there's always a hole on the
- 26:42Speaker 4: right hand side.
- 26:43Speaker 2: Do you know why.
- 26:44Speaker 1: That's a very Catholic thing? No, no, no, I'm not
- 26:48Speaker 1: being funny.
- 26:49Speaker 4: Oh catholic. I don't know.
- 26:51Speaker 1: There was no sexual innuendo in there. When you walk
- 26:55Speaker 1: into a church, you do this thing called you in
- 27:00Speaker 1: your flat, Yeah, and you put your right knee on
- 27:03Speaker 1: the ground. So yeah, if you go to church often enough,
- 27:10Speaker 1: maybe you were a closeted Catholic.
- 27:14Speaker 4: Maybe I do in my sleep. I was born, I
- 27:16Speaker 4: was brought up a Catholic. I just kind of grew up. No, no,
- 27:20Speaker 4: what I.
- 27:23Speaker 2: Haven't been I'm mate. I'm mate.
- 27:26Speaker 4: Did in a church for twenty five years, probably longer now.
- 27:30Speaker 2: That I would have thought it would have been longer
- 27:31Speaker 2: than that.
- 27:32Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Why young people are turning back to DVDs.
- 27:37Speaker 1: I feel like we've spoken about this, maybe, but blu ray,
- 27:41Speaker 1: vinyl and other physical media. I saw a story on
- 27:44Speaker 1: this recently and they were saying, I'll get the numbers wrong,
- 27:47Speaker 1: but it was something like in the naughties, the amount
- 27:52Speaker 1: of music being bought in inverted commas, purchased in inverted commas,
- 27:56Speaker 1: it was like less than one percent vinyl, and now
- 28:00Speaker 1: it's something like twelve percent.
- 28:02Speaker 2: Like people, it's becoming a real thing now.
- 28:05Speaker 4: Well, I was looking at Insta this morning and there's
- 28:07Speaker 4: a hashtag that's trending called hashtag physical media, and there's
- 28:12Speaker 4: over two hundred thousand posts. But what I thought was
- 28:16Speaker 4: really interesting, and I think this polarizes where a lot
- 28:18Speaker 4: of young people are out at the moment. It said
- 28:21Speaker 4: we own nothing anymore. Yeah, when we stream we don't
- 28:26Speaker 4: own the physical media. You know, there's nothing worse. I
- 28:30Speaker 4: had some friends, We're going to watch something on Netflix,
- 28:32Speaker 4: and they'd taken the movie off, so I didn't have it.
- 28:36Speaker 4: So there was no physical copy movie, right right. So
- 28:40Speaker 4: I think that's one thing that a lot of young
- 28:42Speaker 4: people are kind of starting to say, well, you know what,
- 28:44Speaker 4: I physically want that, And they love the idea of
- 28:47Speaker 4: burning a CD. Like there are clips on TikTok showing
- 28:51Speaker 4: people how to burn a CD, how to physically record
- 28:54Speaker 4: songs onto a CD. So I think that the whole
- 28:57Speaker 4: analogue trend. I know, we spoke about it last time,
- 29:00Speaker 4: and analog bags where people go out leave their phone
- 29:02Speaker 4: at home, and young people were talking gen z. But
- 29:05Speaker 4: they go out and they do analog stuff. They go
- 29:08Speaker 4: knitting and they have knitting parties. You know, they do
- 29:10Speaker 4: jigsaw puzzles and coloring in that sound. It's kind of
- 29:14Speaker 4: fun and people talk then you know, they're not looking
- 29:17Speaker 4: at phones.
- 29:19Speaker 2: Well, you know, in about twenty years, people go, do
- 29:22Speaker 2: you remember do you remember when humans talked?
- 29:25Speaker 1: Remember those days when people had conversations. I don't know
- 29:30Speaker 1: if you know this, but when I was when I
- 29:31Speaker 1: left school, I moved to Tazzy for a while and
- 29:35Speaker 1: for about six months I worked in You remember Brashes,
- 29:38Speaker 1: of course, Patrick, do you remember?
- 29:40Speaker 2: Do you remember Alan's music?
- 29:43Speaker 4: I certainly do.
- 29:44Speaker 1: So I worked in Allan's one one six Liverpool Street, Hobart,
- 29:49Speaker 1: and my old man was the state manager. There was
- 29:52Speaker 1: like seven stores or something at that stage. Obviously they
- 29:56Speaker 1: don't exist anymore, but so one of my jobs was
- 30:00Speaker 1: selling records and playing records and every so we had,
- 30:07Speaker 1: you would have loved it.
- 30:08Speaker 2: You would have been in heaven. We had a massive
- 30:11Speaker 2: wall of LPs and they're all in separate bags.
- 30:17Speaker 1: So Emi Company was green, PolyGram was yellow, CBS or
- 30:23Speaker 1: RCA was like an orange color. So somebody would bring
- 30:28Speaker 1: the cover up to you from the shelves and you
- 30:31Speaker 1: look at it. You go, oh, it's festival records. It's blue.
- 30:35Speaker 2: So you'd go find all that you know, And there.
- 30:37Speaker 1: Was this whole process of bringing the thing up, me
- 30:40Speaker 1: finding their record, me taking their record out of the
- 30:44Speaker 1: bag carefully and then cleaning it with this perfect record
- 30:48Speaker 1: cleaning rag that we had, and then putting it in
- 30:51Speaker 1: the cover and then handing it. This whole ritual that
- 30:54Speaker 1: shit doesn't happen and it was so good. People were
- 30:57Speaker 1: so excited to buy an LP, which I think.
- 31:00Speaker 2: Was like nine ninety nine.
- 31:02Speaker 4: Then five bucks. You know. The other thing that I
- 31:05Speaker 4: always would do when I purchased an album was to
- 31:08Speaker 4: buy the plastic sleeve to put it into as well
- 31:11Speaker 4: to protect the jacket. Do you remember?
- 31:13Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 31:14Speaker 1: You know what I wanted him to do after I
- 31:15Speaker 1: said all that, tif, I wanted him to say, oh,
- 31:17Speaker 1: that's interesting, Harps tell us more, but fucking nothing.
- 31:21Speaker 5: He's just laiting to speak.
- 31:24Speaker 1: It's like a great story, Craig Gee, Oh no, nothing.
- 31:29Speaker 1: It gives me fucking nothing.
- 31:33Speaker 4: I was trying to add to the conversation by asking
- 31:36Speaker 4: you if you remember the plastic sleeves that you're.
- 31:39Speaker 2: Just being a precious only child, mate, don't listen to me.
- 31:42Speaker 4: Did you know.
- 31:45Speaker 2: I'm an only child?
- 31:48Speaker 4: No?
- 31:48Speaker 2: But I did.
- 31:50Speaker 1: I remember when CDs came out? What what year was
- 31:54Speaker 1: CD's do you reckon? Like nine ninety or something, because
- 31:59Speaker 1: that was like maybe you could find out for us
- 32:02Speaker 1: fit that was like the future, that was like Star Wars.
- 32:06Speaker 2: I'm like, how can music fit on this little thing?
- 32:09Speaker 4: Nineteen eighty two, Oh wow, nineteen eighty two, the first
- 32:14Speaker 4: album Billy Joel's fifty second Street album was the first
- 32:17Speaker 4: album released on CD.
- 32:19Speaker 1: Speak just digressing momentarily, do you remember your first album
- 32:23Speaker 1: and all your first concert TIF? Same question for you
- 32:27Speaker 1: first album or even in the first or were you
- 32:31Speaker 1: a music kind of guy or not?
- 32:32Speaker 4: Really?
- 32:33Speaker 2: Oh?
- 32:33Speaker 4: Yeah, very much.
- 32:34Speaker 3: So.
- 32:34Speaker 4: My favorite thing was buying albums, from soundtracks to movies.
- 32:40Speaker 4: I worked at a Cinelar kid and I loved soundtracks.
- 32:45Speaker 4: The theme from Local Hero by Mark Knopfler was one
- 32:49Speaker 4: of my first Maybe that was Do you remember that?
- 32:52Speaker 4: That was really a haunting thing? Was lovely?
- 32:55Speaker 1: Well, I don't remember that, which I should. But Mark
- 32:58Speaker 1: Knopfler and Dire Straits more broad they were the shit
- 33:01Speaker 1: in the day, weren't they. And you listener Mark Knopfler
- 33:03Speaker 1: in Isolation. His voice is not amazing, but it's kind
- 33:07Speaker 1: of hypnotic. And yeah, just the combination of Dia Straits
- 33:12Speaker 1: and him was good.
- 33:13Speaker 4: John Michelle jar Oxygen, Jean Michelle Jarn.
- 33:18Speaker 2: No, you're thinking of Vangelis, Oh no, I know that one. Yeah.
- 33:24Speaker 4: In fact, The Friends of Mister Cairo was an album.
- 33:27Speaker 4: But Evangelis did the soundtrack for Blade Runner and Blade
- 33:30Speaker 4: Runner was one of my favorite films. I think I
- 33:31Speaker 4: watched it when it was released. I watched it thirteen
- 33:34Speaker 4: times in a row.
- 33:36Speaker 1: What about also, and yes, great movie, there's a new
- 33:40Speaker 1: Blade Runner, which is not new anymore because it's ten
- 33:42Speaker 1: years old with Harrison Ford I think.
- 33:45Speaker 4: But still.
- 33:47Speaker 1: Chariots of Fire that sold crazy. That was you ever
- 33:51Speaker 1: heard of that movie?
- 33:52Speaker 2: Tip? No? No that that had an amazing soundtrack as well.
- 33:58Speaker 2: So anyway, the old days tiff first record or first concert.
- 34:04Speaker 3: First first cassette I ever got was James Blundell because
- 34:07Speaker 3: my parents lives in the country in Western I thought
- 34:10Speaker 3: that was cool. Yeah, CD I ever got. It was
- 34:14Speaker 3: for Christmas and was Duel Pieces of You, and I
- 34:17Speaker 3: loved it. But I only got that because I found
- 34:20Speaker 3: out later My sister in law said they accidentally.
- 34:23Speaker 5: Got delivered to their house.
- 34:24Speaker 3: So they opened it and was like, oh, we'll give
- 34:27Speaker 3: that to do for Christmas.
- 34:31Speaker 2: Not special at all.
- 34:33Speaker 3: First concert Missy Higgins, Wow, yeah.
- 34:39Speaker 1: Missy Higgins is I'd like to get Missy Higgins on here.
- 34:43Speaker 1: I really like Missy Higgins Patrick first or maybe best
- 34:48Speaker 1: concert or favorite?
- 34:50Speaker 4: You know, John Denver, I'm going to say I took
- 34:55Speaker 4: my mum and my auntie to see John Denver, and
- 34:57Speaker 4: I didn't think i'd really enjoyed that much. I actually
- 35:01Speaker 4: surprised myself at how much I enjoyed it because he
- 35:04Speaker 4: was a real greenie as well, and he was spoken
- 35:06Speaker 4: the environment and how important it was to say the
- 35:08Speaker 4: environments that resonated with me. But you know, I was
- 35:11Speaker 4: thinking of one of the early albums. But I was
- 35:12Speaker 4: thinking of somebody who recently passed away, the lady from Clannard,
- 35:17Speaker 4: Moira Moya Brennan. Do you remember Claneard? I think you
- 35:20Speaker 4: probably think Enya.
- 35:23Speaker 2: I remember Enya. I love it.
- 35:25Speaker 4: Yeah, So Clannet was kind of an earlier kind of
- 35:28Speaker 4: it made Irish music really popular. It was it's kind
- 35:31Speaker 4: of popular Irish music, and she was the one that
- 35:33Speaker 4: was phenomenal. You'll know the music if you looked up Clanet.
- 35:37Speaker 4: It was also the theme for a few movies and
- 35:39Speaker 4: things as well. Yes, Robin Hood was on a TV
- 35:43Speaker 4: series where she did the music to that.
- 35:46Speaker 2: Can I say this is an embarrassing story, but it's true.
- 35:49Speaker 1: So I went out with a young lady for about
- 35:54Speaker 1: ten minutes in the early noughties and who.
- 36:01Speaker 2: I don't want to give everything anything away, came from
- 36:03Speaker 2: very very wealthy family.
- 36:06Speaker 1: So I was like a duck out of order. I
- 36:08Speaker 1: did not fit in at all. Anyway, one night she
- 36:12Speaker 1: said to me, or one day, said I got some
- 36:15Speaker 1: tickets for us to go to this concert.
- 36:18Speaker 2: I won't tell you the name yet, and I'm like, oh,
- 36:21Speaker 2: who is it?
- 36:22Speaker 1: And I went okay, Like I'm like, if I had
- 36:26Speaker 1: a chance to not go, I would have taken it.
- 36:28Speaker 2: But I thought, I'll be supportive, I'll be nice.
- 36:30Speaker 1: So we get there and it's massive and we are
- 36:34Speaker 1: in the front row. So I do not know how
- 36:37Speaker 1: much ticket these how much these costs, but a fucking lot.
- 36:41Speaker 1: And the artist was Prince, so I'm ten feet from
- 36:48Speaker 1: Prince and it was the best concert, you know, when
- 36:52Speaker 1: you have zero or low expectations. I fell in love
- 36:56Speaker 1: with him, and I'm like, oh, how do How am
- 36:59Speaker 1: I so stupid? How am I so ignorant?
- 37:02Speaker 2: How am I so unaware that this fucking genius lives?
- 37:07Speaker 2: And I don't know who he is?
- 37:09Speaker 1: And not just his lyrics and his songs he's singing
- 37:13Speaker 1: and stuff is phenomenal, but he basically played every instrument
- 37:18Speaker 1: like a savant, as in drums, keyboards, piano, his sorry guitar.
- 37:25Speaker 2: His guitar is was god bless phenomenal. Yeah, so that's
- 37:31Speaker 2: my favorite unexpected moment in music. Yeah, awesome, Yeah he
- 37:36Speaker 2: was good, my worst and then we'll move on. Yep. Ah,
- 37:42Speaker 2: how Patrick, you're gonna you may have something to say
- 37:45Speaker 2: about this. So firstly, mc hammer hammer time fucking terrible,
- 37:52Speaker 2: so bad, so bad. But I love I love that
- 37:55Speaker 2: song though, And there was a phase in the nineties.
- 37:58Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember this or maybe eighties. Yeah,
- 38:01Speaker 2: eighties were a whole lot of dudes and embarrashing them
- 38:07Speaker 2: mc hammer pants like gypsy pants or whatever you want
- 38:10Speaker 2: to harsh pants. I think they're cool, yeah, right right, yeah,
- 38:14Speaker 2: so I used to smash those, and I've got some
- 38:17Speaker 2: photos of me. Oh my god. How do you know
- 38:20Speaker 2: when you look back and you think you look the shit,
- 38:23Speaker 2: or you think you did at the time, then you.
- 38:25Speaker 5: Look back in the typ group actually I.
- 38:29Speaker 2: Think, yeah, yeah, I'll post that later today.
- 38:32Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Patrick, take us where you want to go
- 38:36Speaker 1: with your next story. Whatever's tickling your fancy, ever's tickling
- 38:41Speaker 1: my fancy?
- 38:43Speaker 4: Oh man, I hate it when you ask me these questions.
- 38:46Speaker 1: What about what about engineers who have developed a material
- 38:50Speaker 1: capable of self repairing. This is how does something that's
- 38:55Speaker 1: manufactured self repair. Engineers have developed a material.
- 38:58Speaker 2: Capable of self repair ring more than a thousand times,
- 39:01Speaker 2: which promises to extend the service life of key components
- 39:06Speaker 2: on airplanes, cars, and wind turbines for centuries. Well, that
- 39:10Speaker 2: seems like a very good development.
- 39:12Speaker 4: It's pretty cool. Huh. This is interesting because a lot
- 39:15Speaker 4: of modern like materials. Component materials generally get thrown away
- 39:22Speaker 4: when they get damaged, and this is a real problem.
- 39:25Speaker 4: And there's a feature called or a thing called delamination,
- 39:30Speaker 4: so they start to come apart. But now scientists think
- 39:34Speaker 4: that they can self repair because they can repair when
- 39:36Speaker 4: they delaminate, and it means that potentially they could be
- 39:40Speaker 4: self repaired up to a thousand times. So what will
- 39:44Speaker 4: that I mean, we're talking aeroplanes, cars, wind turbines and
- 39:48Speaker 4: they could last centuries now. So it also has the
- 39:52Speaker 4: benefit that you're not having to remake these components because
- 39:57Speaker 4: they can potentially repair themselves multi times. So they've done
- 40:01Speaker 4: this in the lab and they've so they've kind of
- 40:04Speaker 4: done the process of delemination and then they estimate they
- 40:08Speaker 4: could use they kind of stretch and I think that's
- 40:11Speaker 4: the way that they repair and yeah, and that's how
- 40:15Speaker 4: the process works. So yeah, lots of benefits all the
- 40:18Speaker 4: way around and means that, you know. And also I
- 40:23Speaker 4: think I'll be happier in a plane that can self
- 40:25Speaker 4: repair than a plane that can't.
- 40:28Speaker 2: I love that idea.
- 40:29Speaker 1: It almost seems from a business only, a business only
- 40:33Speaker 1: point of view, it seems almost counterintuitive or counterproductive because
- 40:37Speaker 1: if you make shit that essentially lasts forever, people only
- 40:41Speaker 1: have to buy it once, which for the consumer is amazing,
- 40:45Speaker 1: but for the seller it's you know, it's like in
- 40:47Speaker 1: the old days when you could buy whatever like Toyota
- 40:52Speaker 1: are notoriously reliable, or they were where you could buy
- 40:57Speaker 1: a land Cruiser in nineteen eighty and drive it twenty
- 41:01Speaker 1: twenty six, you know, and have two million miles on
- 41:04Speaker 1: it and replace three things.
- 41:06Speaker 2: But now cars are they.
- 41:07Speaker 1: Kind of build them with a shelf life of kind
- 41:10Speaker 1: of five to ten years.
- 41:11Speaker 4: We'll same with fridges. I think my fridge is nearly
- 41:14Speaker 4: twenty five years old or nearly yeah, pretty old. I've
- 41:18Speaker 4: had it since I moved into Brighton, Eich, so that's actually, yeah,
- 41:21Speaker 4: easily twenty five years old. The other thing is these
- 41:25Speaker 4: materials are called fiber reinforced polymer, and the reason that
- 41:29Speaker 4: they're so sought after all, why they're being used in
- 41:32Speaker 4: vehicles and aircraft is because they're strong and they're very
- 41:36Speaker 4: very light, so you've got this benefit. But the downside,
- 41:40Speaker 4: or the Achilles heel, is that they tend to break
- 41:42Speaker 4: apart easily. And now this new technology could mean that
- 41:45Speaker 4: they would repair.
- 41:47Speaker 2: Yes.
- 41:48Speaker 1: Yes, One of the things that we're seeing a little
- 41:50Speaker 1: bit and I think you and I like this.
- 41:53Speaker 2: I don't know about TIV, but is when like the
- 41:58Speaker 2: swing the pendulum swinging towards AI and autonomous everything and
- 42:04Speaker 2: you know, self driving self everything, is we're starting to
- 42:08Speaker 2: see some car companies now move back Mercedes Benz you
- 42:13Speaker 2: highlighted here, and they're actually coming back to having physical buttons.
- 42:19Speaker 2: Oh you want the AC on? Push this button, you
- 42:22Speaker 2: want it a bit warmer, turn this knob. Like, it's so.
- 42:26Speaker 1: Dumb that we have to have everything on a screen
- 42:30Speaker 1: on my slightly newer fan or my new relative to
- 42:34Speaker 1: me fancy car that I got.
- 42:37Speaker 2: The it's all screen stuff and it's won It takes me.
- 42:42Speaker 2: I feel like I need to go and do another
- 42:43Speaker 2: degree to figure out how to use it. And secondly,
- 42:47Speaker 2: it takes for me more Other people not, I'm sure,
- 42:51Speaker 2: but for me it takes more time and more concentration
- 42:56Speaker 2: to use.
- 42:56Speaker 1: It as I'm driving rather than the old the more
- 43:02Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's because I'm an old person, but.
- 43:04Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's not at all.
- 43:05Speaker 4: It's not because when we can physically have analog buttons,
- 43:10Speaker 4: we don't have to think about where we're reaching over
- 43:13Speaker 4: to just the temperature, you know, to change your cruise control,
- 43:17Speaker 4: to just just see whatever it happens to be the
- 43:19Speaker 4: volume control if you're touching a big screen. Mercedes has
- 43:23Speaker 4: these gorgeous screens that run the entire length of the dashboard,
- 43:28Speaker 4: like thirty nine point one inch hyperscreen they call them.
- 43:33Speaker 4: But they're going to keep that in their cars, but
- 43:35Speaker 4: put knobs and switches in there as well. They've been
- 43:38Speaker 4: getting a lot of complaints from people, so the Mercedes
- 43:41Speaker 4: been sales boss in Germany basically said, look, they're changing
- 43:45Speaker 4: their course because they've got so much feedback from customers.
- 43:48Speaker 4: This is going back two years ago. It just doesn't
- 43:51Speaker 4: work for them. And let's think about the demographic whoor
- 43:54Speaker 4: buying Mercedes. They're not the generation of people that are
- 43:57Speaker 4: really super high tech. Anyway, the peopeople who tend to
- 44:01Speaker 4: I guess be a little bit older and they like
- 44:04Speaker 4: the idea of analog. But you know, we've spoken on
- 44:07Speaker 4: the show previously about how China is now making sure
- 44:11Speaker 4: that buttons and knobs and controls are being returned back
- 44:14Speaker 4: to cars. When we look at Tesla was the very
- 44:17Speaker 4: first with the if you've sitt sat in a Tesla before,
- 44:20Speaker 4: and it's just one big wide dash with a basically
- 44:23Speaker 4: big ass iPad sitting in the middle of the screen.
- 44:26Speaker 2: I've driven a Tesla on a TV show.
- 44:29Speaker 4: Oh there you go.
- 44:30Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I.
- 44:30Speaker 1: Used to work on a foxtail show called Living Life
- 44:33Speaker 1: Now and yeah i'd test drive when they just come
- 44:36Speaker 1: out and they had Yeah.
- 44:38Speaker 2: Anyway, they are that. They are obviously they're the pioneers
- 44:43Speaker 2: in that space. But I think you and I are
- 44:46Speaker 2: a little bit analogue in some ways. I like the
- 44:49Speaker 2: sensory experience of turning and d pushing a button, you know,
- 44:53Speaker 2: and like, like you said, once you've driven that car
- 44:58Speaker 2: and look at Tiff laughing. I knew I as soon
- 45:01Speaker 2: as I mentioned knob, she'd be.
- 45:03Speaker 1: Looking at her, look at her like Patrick and I
- 45:06Speaker 1: trying to be the grownups.
- 45:09Speaker 4: Doesn't happen very often, though, let's face.
- 45:11Speaker 1: It, it is. I'm glad she's the one that needs
- 45:14Speaker 1: a reprimand not you or me.
- 45:17Speaker 4: I had an interesting thing happened recently. You know that
- 45:20Speaker 4: there's been a big upswing in the sale of electric cars.
- 45:24Speaker 4: So here in Australia the figures came out for the
- 45:26Speaker 4: monthly sales and BYD sold four thousand, four hundred and
- 45:31Speaker 4: fifty two in April, yes ours, you know, and Tesla
- 45:35Speaker 4: sold two hundred and twenty five. So there's been a
- 45:38Speaker 4: big so BYD is certainly the big the big leader.
- 45:41Speaker 4: But I had an interesting time. You know, when you're
- 45:44Speaker 4: on a two lane freeway and you're being overtaken or
- 45:48Speaker 4: you need to overtake, so you've got two lanes on
- 45:49Speaker 4: one side, two lanes on the other side, so I
- 45:51Speaker 4: guess a four lane freeway and you judge how much
- 45:55Speaker 4: time you've got. So we have this wonderful physics engine
- 45:58Speaker 4: build into our brains. When we cross the street we
- 46:01Speaker 4: look at a car coming, we know that we've got
- 46:03Speaker 4: enough time to be able to cross the street before
- 46:05Speaker 4: the car is going to hit us. How fast we
- 46:07Speaker 4: have to move and we do it when we drive
- 46:09Speaker 4: all the time. So the other day I was wanting
- 46:11Speaker 4: to overtake a car in front of me was going slow,
- 46:14Speaker 4: I indicated, and a guy who was quite a distance away,
- 46:18Speaker 4: but it was an electric car put the foot down
- 46:21Speaker 4: and accelerated so quickly he zoomed up. I didn't have
- 46:25Speaker 4: anywhere near enough time. And this is a real concern
- 46:28Speaker 4: because we generally have a good sense or a notion
- 46:32Speaker 4: of how much time we've got to do things when
- 46:34Speaker 4: we're using our physics brain driving or walking. But with
- 46:38Speaker 4: electric cars, it throws that whole equation out, doesn't it.
- 46:42Speaker 2: Yeah, that is an interesting thing that you say.
- 46:44Speaker 1: I was thinking about that because, as you know, I
- 46:46Speaker 1: live on a main street, and that is.
- 46:50Speaker 2: You think.
- 46:51Speaker 1: You know, sometimes we think we're dumb, but your brain
- 46:54Speaker 1: has the ability, as you said, to go, well, I've
- 46:57Speaker 1: got to walk this distance across this street, which might
- 47:00Speaker 1: be six meters. That car is seventy meters away traveling
- 47:05Speaker 1: about this speed because the street I live on as
- 47:07Speaker 1: forty k's and so you do all that almost autonomously,
- 47:12Speaker 1: and you go, yeah, I have heaps of time.
- 47:14Speaker 2: But as you said, with a car that produces.
- 47:17Speaker 1: No noise, so you can't hear the acceleration if they
- 47:20Speaker 1: want to be a dickhead, which some of them are,
- 47:24Speaker 1: we all are. Yeah, that's problematic, and I hate it
- 47:30Speaker 1: when I've had that too, where people like, you know,
- 47:33Speaker 1: you've got more than enough time, but they want to
- 47:36Speaker 1: get pissed off, so they accelerate toward you so they
- 47:39Speaker 1: can get pissed off.
- 47:41Speaker 2: I'm like, what is your fucking problem?
- 47:43Speaker 4: Well, yesterday I was overtaking another car. I was going
- 47:45Speaker 4: the speed limit. They were probably five or ten k's
- 47:48Speaker 4: under the speed limit, but not that much under. So
- 47:51Speaker 4: as I moved into the right lane, I'm slowly overtaking them.
- 47:55Speaker 4: This guy in a bloody van a trade he was
- 47:57Speaker 4: sitting on my bumper because I wasn't overtaking fast enough
- 48:01Speaker 4: at the lead limits.
- 48:02Speaker 1: Yes, they find that funny when you're in the right
- 48:05Speaker 1: lane and you're going as fast as the state will allow. Yes,
- 48:09Speaker 1: you're driving at the legal limit, and they're behind you
- 48:12Speaker 1: fucking tooting or flashy.
- 48:14Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but that I mean.
- 48:17Speaker 1: Do you know what I think is before we move on,
- 48:19Speaker 1: what I would love to see, Speaking of vinyl coming
- 48:22Speaker 1: back and CDs and turntables, here's an idea for all
- 48:27Speaker 1: your car manufacturers out there who tune in every second
- 48:30Speaker 1: Friday to hear what Patrick, Tiff and I have to say.
- 48:33Speaker 1: So get your fucking notepads out, your motherfuckers and your pens,
- 48:37Speaker 1: lean forward and listener to what I'm going to tell you.
- 48:41Speaker 1: Build a car that's like an analog car with the
- 48:45Speaker 1: behind the scenes appropriate technology, so it doesn't have the
- 48:49Speaker 1: engineering and the dynamics of the nineteen eighties car. It has,
- 48:53Speaker 1: you know, the current stuff, but no screen. Like a
- 48:56Speaker 1: small car, small car that's like one onero point six.
- 49:00Speaker 1: Leaders doesn't go spectacularly fast. It's real reliable and there's
- 49:05Speaker 1: no screen.
- 49:06Speaker 2: There's buttons and you put your key in the thing
- 49:08Speaker 2: and you because that's hard work. You don't want to
- 49:10Speaker 2: have to twist that all the way around. In the ignition, I.
- 49:13Speaker 1: Reckon if they could produce a car like that where
- 49:16Speaker 1: there was very little apparent tech and they sold it
- 49:21Speaker 1: for twenty grand I think they sell heaps because I
- 49:25Speaker 1: love getting I love getting in my little crappy Suzuki.
- 49:29Speaker 2: It's such a good little car and it's so basic.
- 49:33Speaker 2: I love it. I enjoy driving it.
- 49:35Speaker 4: You were talking about cars to go forever. My little
- 49:37Speaker 4: Nissan NXR coop, which I know that. You know, my
- 49:40Speaker 4: little two doors, a little burgun D one yep, five
- 49:44Speaker 4: hundred thousand kilometers and I've had it for thirty one years.
- 49:47Speaker 2: Yeah, but yes, why would you get rid of it?
- 49:51Speaker 2: It's not worth it, you know, unless you're giving it
- 49:53Speaker 2: to your nies or something.
- 49:54Speaker 1: Or yeah, speaking of cars, I saw this the other day.
- 49:59Speaker 2: Yeah. Sorry, the car that goes to one hundred kilometers
- 50:02Speaker 2: an hour. Even for non car people, this is going
- 50:05Speaker 2: to be in under one second. Like, good luck keeping
- 50:09Speaker 2: your kidneys in your body.
- 50:11Speaker 1: Exactly explean imagine trying to keep your biology intact when
- 50:16Speaker 1: you're going from sitting still to one hundred in point
- 50:21Speaker 1: nine of a second.
- 50:22Speaker 4: You make sure you've been to the toilet before you
- 50:24Speaker 4: get in the car.
- 50:25Speaker 2: Oh no, that'll do it for you.
- 50:28Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 50:28Speaker 4: The Nebula Next one Jet Edition is what they're calling it.
- 50:33Speaker 4: So it's a concept car. It says it's got rocket
- 50:36Speaker 4: like acceleration and next generation autonomous technology. It's a Chinese
- 50:41Speaker 4: company called Dream Technology. Now, I did a bit of
- 50:45Speaker 4: research here. A typical fighter jet accelerates from zero to
- 50:49Speaker 4: one hundred in three to five seconds, and this is
- 50:53Speaker 4: zero point nine seconds. They claim it can accelerate, doesn't
- 50:57Speaker 4: that do you? Yeah?
- 51:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's like, honestly, that would be very uncomfortable,
- 51:04Speaker 1: like that would be you know, a couple of my
- 51:08Speaker 1: motorbikes are very very fast, like two and a half seconds,
- 51:13Speaker 1: and that is almost like holding on and yeah, it
- 51:19Speaker 1: almost throws you off the back.
- 51:20Speaker 2: And this is more than two times quicker. Yeah, anyway,
- 51:25Speaker 2: it'd be fun, but fucking he fuck. Yeah.
- 51:29Speaker 1: Now we've spoken about this, but not on any deep level,
- 51:33Speaker 1: and it seems like an obvious occurrence is that people
- 51:38Speaker 1: are now, for lots of reasons, financial being one of them,
- 51:42Speaker 1: going to AI instead of the doctor.
- 51:46Speaker 4: Yeah. This is big in the United States, especially because
- 51:48Speaker 4: they don't have the health safety net, well not as
- 51:51Speaker 4: good a health safety net as we have in Australia,
- 51:53Speaker 4: and they can't basically afford to go to get advice,
- 51:59Speaker 4: so they're turning to AI. But it can get really,
- 52:03Speaker 4: really really wrong. We saw, you know, I think maybe
- 52:05Speaker 4: it was two years ago where Google was suggesting eating
- 52:08Speaker 4: rocks and telling people to put glue on their pizza.
- 52:11Speaker 4: So it was getting it wrong a little bit wrong.
- 52:14Speaker 4: But even now, this was a new study that was
- 52:17Speaker 4: published and researchers asked twenty one basically large language models
- 52:24Speaker 4: to play doctor, and they basically put in a number
- 52:28Speaker 4: of realistic symptoms that actual patients could have, and it
- 52:34Speaker 4: was horrendous, Like the AI failure rate exceeded eighty percent
- 52:40Speaker 4: when given the same ambiguous symptoms we're talking about here,
- 52:45Speaker 4: So my knees hanging out of the joint, I've just
- 52:48Speaker 4: been run over. But when they basically because the medical
- 52:51Speaker 4: technology or a medical diagnosis is usually what you don't
- 52:55Speaker 4: have as opposed to what you do have, it's a
- 52:57Speaker 4: process of elimination, and it takes years and years and
- 52:59Speaker 4: year is and I can see that having an AI
- 53:03Speaker 4: Large language model that's you know, health focused, and I'm
- 53:06Speaker 4: sure that there are a lot of people in the
- 53:09Speaker 4: medical profession using l lms that are specifically health oriented.
- 53:13Speaker 4: But if you're a generic large language model, something like
- 53:17Speaker 4: Claude or whatever, or you know, Google or whatever it
- 53:20Speaker 4: happens to be, then you know, an eighty percent failure
- 53:24Speaker 4: rate is fu. You know, people are given being given
- 53:28Speaker 4: really bad advice.
- 53:30Speaker 1: That's and it's not surprising, and I don't know how
- 53:36Speaker 1: they're going to manage slash regulate that moving forward, haytiv.
- 53:43Speaker 2: Yes, Craig, oh are you paying attention ready?
- 53:47Speaker 5: Just stretching me back with my pen.
- 53:48Speaker 1: Actually, you know, Tiff, when you're going on a flight
- 53:52Speaker 1: back to Tazzy to see your family, or you're off
- 53:55Speaker 1: to Queensland with your boyfriend slash girlfriend on a some
- 53:58Speaker 1: kind of I don't know what ever, kind of romp
- 54:00Speaker 1: you to do, and you're sitting in the plane and
- 54:03Speaker 1: you're just waiting to take off, and you look out
- 54:05Speaker 1: the window and you see all those little highly efficient
- 54:08Speaker 1: busy people in their vests who are run you know,
- 54:12Speaker 1: lifting bags and throwing bags in the thing and you know,
- 54:15Speaker 1: pushing stuff around.
- 54:17Speaker 2: Well, Patrick's got some news for you.
- 54:20Speaker 4: Japan Airlines right is talking about using humanoid robots for
- 54:24Speaker 4: ground handling at Tokyo's Hayenda Airport starting this month. So
- 54:30Speaker 4: it's a two year trial and actually makes a lot
- 54:34Speaker 4: of sense if you, you know, in hazardous areas or
- 54:37Speaker 4: areas where you're having problems getting staffed, because in Japan
- 54:40Speaker 4: they're really having problems getting baggage handlers, and so this
- 54:44Speaker 4: is an alternative that they're trialing at the moment to
- 54:47Speaker 4: use robots. And the interesting thing is they're Chinese made
- 54:50Speaker 4: robots as well, and they're using them to then use
- 54:54Speaker 4: the pack your luggage. I don't know, I reckon I'd
- 54:56Speaker 4: be pretty happy with the robot doing my luggage, don't you.
- 55:00Speaker 2: Oh? Definitely, definitely. I was just thinking, and then I
- 55:03Speaker 2: corrected my I was thinking, well, that's probably one of
- 55:05Speaker 2: those jobs that if that disappears, it's probably not a
- 55:09Speaker 2: big thing, you know, because who wants to be a
- 55:12Speaker 2: baggage handler?
- 55:13Speaker 1: But then I thought they're probably a bunch of baggage
- 55:16Speaker 1: handlers that love their job, you know, like it's like, no,
- 55:19Speaker 1: I love it.
- 55:20Speaker 2: I don't have to talk to people much or just
- 55:22Speaker 2: put my headphones on and move shit, I stay in shape.
- 55:26Speaker 2: But yeah, it is interesting, you know, more broadly zooming
- 55:30Speaker 2: out from the robot ground handlers to see the evolution
- 55:35Speaker 2: or devolution of certain jobs, you know, and that's just
- 55:39Speaker 2: going to be more and more patrick, isn't it.
- 55:41Speaker 4: I was sitting at a plane once going to Queensland.
- 55:44Speaker 2: Yes it is, Craig, Oh it is. I don't know,
- 55:48Speaker 2: are you even listening to me?
- 55:50Speaker 4: It's just really rabbits on, doesn't he You know?
- 55:52Speaker 2: I asked you a question which you ignored.
- 55:55Speaker 4: He didn't what was your question?
- 55:57Speaker 7: Oh god, wow, See that's the thing.
- 56:02Speaker 2: He doesn't even listen.
- 56:04Speaker 5: You can tune into this Patrick and maybe review.
- 56:09Speaker 2: You might find Craig is not always the problem.
- 56:12Speaker 4: Hey, what was your what was your favorite part of
- 56:15Speaker 4: working in a record still Craig?
- 56:17Speaker 2: Uh, okay, the fact that it was a good, good
- 56:22Speaker 2: energy and I just work with really good people. Like
- 56:24Speaker 2: that's a very boring answer, but it was.
- 56:26Speaker 1: I liked the environment, I liked the music all day,
- 56:30Speaker 1: and the customers were cool. I feel like you're going
- 56:32Speaker 1: somewhere with this, go on.
- 56:34Speaker 4: Know how knowledgeable did you have to be? Like, you
- 56:36Speaker 4: have to be pretty switched on, like you want to
- 56:37Speaker 4: know that. I remember going in and trying to buy
- 56:39Speaker 4: a record, like a Doctor Who soundtrack, and the guy said,
- 56:43Speaker 4: you want the Who? No? No, not the Who? I
- 56:45Speaker 4: want Doctor Who? Yes, But you'd have to have known
- 56:49Speaker 4: a heck of a lot about I.
- 56:51Speaker 2: Ended I ended up.
- 56:51Speaker 1: Obviously, you start not knowing anything, but you work in
- 56:54Speaker 1: any environments like my parents developed set up built a
- 56:58Speaker 1: hardware store when I was about twelve, which I knew
- 57:01Speaker 1: nothing about hardware, but by the time I was eighteen,
- 57:04Speaker 1: I knew a fuck load about hardware because that was
- 57:07Speaker 1: the environment I was in. I think, you know, it's
- 57:09Speaker 1: not that I went, oh my god, I want to
- 57:11Speaker 1: learn how to mix.
- 57:11Speaker 2: Paint or I want to learn what a routeries or
- 57:14Speaker 2: a jigsa, or how to chop radiator pine into three
- 57:17Speaker 2: point six meter lengths. But that's all the stuff that
- 57:20Speaker 2: you do, you know what I mean.
- 57:21Speaker 1: It's like and then you just get good at it.
- 57:23Speaker 1: But yeah, like I love music, so that was a
- 57:27Speaker 1: natural fit for me. But thanks, thanks for inquiring about me.
- 57:31Speaker 2: I see what you did there.
- 57:33Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I was looking about that.
- 57:37Speaker 2: You're hilarious.
- 57:38Speaker 1: I don't even know what this next one means. Scientists
- 57:42Speaker 1: build a digital camera, Well I do, but I don't
- 57:44Speaker 1: understand it. A digital I think I just repeated myself.
- 57:48Speaker 1: A digital camera that can be absorbed by the body.
- 57:51Speaker 4: To what end, Patrick, Well, if you want a camera
- 57:54Speaker 4: that you can swallow that will look at your intestinal
- 57:58Speaker 4: tract and your stomach and what's going on in there.
- 58:01Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so it's.
- 58:03Speaker 1: Absorbed as in organically grading into them like when it
- 58:07Speaker 1: absorbed to me, Okay.
- 58:09Speaker 4: So your body breaks it down. It's made with it's
- 58:12Speaker 4: made with harmless materials that your body can break down,
- 58:16Speaker 4: so you don't have to pass it through. It just
- 58:18Speaker 4: does a job. It floats around and your body goes
- 58:21Speaker 4: to your digestive system, takes lots of photos as it
- 58:23Speaker 4: goes through, and then your body absorbs it. So they're
- 58:26Speaker 4: called silicon nanomembranes and they can dissolve within a couple
- 58:30Speaker 4: of days. So and these, because they're silicon, they can
- 58:34Speaker 4: conduct electricity. And they're talking maybe putting as much as
- 58:37Speaker 4: a sixty four pixel digital camera that can be implanted
- 58:40Speaker 4: in you and then it will just break down.
- 58:44Speaker 1: I love I love how they say, and I'm not
- 58:46Speaker 1: disagreeing with you, but they go, oh, it's harmless, can
- 58:49Speaker 1: be put there.
- 58:50Speaker 2: Okay, show me the long term tests. I'm putting silicon
- 58:53Speaker 2: in your body.
- 58:54Speaker 1: Show me the ten year studies that show that it
- 58:57Speaker 1: doesn't do anything bad, and then I'll consider your fucking nanotechnology.
- 59:02Speaker 1: I would not be at the front of the queue
- 59:04Speaker 1: for that.
- 59:04Speaker 2: What do you think, tif.
- 59:07Speaker 5: But no, that's a no from me. That cannot be good.
- 59:10Speaker 5: That's weird.
- 59:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
- 59:13Speaker 1: Also, how can something that's biodegradable be a camera? That
- 59:18Speaker 1: doesn't make sense?
- 59:20Speaker 4: Well, they said that they can do it. I don't
- 59:23Speaker 4: know it's making I don't know. I'm just repeating.
- 59:26Speaker 2: He's backpedaling now, isn't he.
- 59:28Speaker 4: I'm just thinking, if you can reduce the need to
- 59:30Speaker 4: have surgery or a big bloody tube put down your stomach,
- 59:34Speaker 4: like if you have to get gastros gastroscopy or you know,
- 59:38Speaker 4: that's that's a big thing. Whereas if you just swallow
- 59:41Speaker 4: this little tablet and it takes pictures on the way
- 59:44Speaker 4: down or video on the way down, that sounds good
- 59:46Speaker 4: to me.
- 59:46Speaker 2: No, sure, sure you're not on their marketing team, because
- 59:50Speaker 2: it sounds like you are.
- 59:51Speaker 4: Have you ever had a gastroscopy before?
- 59:54Speaker 2: Nah?
- 59:55Speaker 4: Or a colonoscopy? That wouldn't be fun.
- 59:58Speaker 1: Isn't that an Irish bum doctor? Colonoscopy? Stop it tell
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: us about. I am interested in toothpaste that stops gum
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: disease without killing the good bacteria.
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: That seems like a great product.
- 1:00:12Speaker 4: Yeah, gum disease obviously is pretty major. But if you
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- 1:00:20Speaker 4: to kind of kill the bacteria in your mouth, it's
- 1:00:22Speaker 4: not selective, so you're getting rid of all the bacteria
- 1:00:25Speaker 4: and potentially you're getting rid of the really good bacteria.
- 1:00:28Speaker 4: And I think that inside the bacteria in your mouth
- 1:00:32Speaker 4: it's only a small percentage that causes cavities. So you
- 1:00:35Speaker 4: need that to break down food. You know, the oral
- 1:00:37Speaker 4: digestion part is the mechanical digestion of chewing, and then
- 1:00:41Speaker 4: there's the bacteria and the way that you actually absorb
- 1:00:43Speaker 4: and break things down. So periodontitis is a condition that
- 1:00:49Speaker 4: affects lots of people, and so scientists in Germany have
- 1:00:54Speaker 4: got basically the founder way to keep the good microbe,
- 1:00:58Speaker 4: the microbiome that you need in tables and so the
- 1:01:03Speaker 4: company is called Perio Trap and they're working on these
- 1:01:07Speaker 4: oral care products that will will basically mean that we
- 1:01:12Speaker 4: can kill off the bad bacteria that causes decay and
- 1:01:15Speaker 4: keep the good bacteria. And the thing is we were
- 1:01:17Speaker 4: talking about that I was mentioning the health safety net
- 1:01:21Speaker 4: that we've got in Australia. But the one health safety
- 1:01:23Speaker 4: net that really is a problem still because it's not
- 1:01:26Speaker 4: there is oral problems. You know, people with Dentistry is
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: so expensive and there are people out there who can't
- 1:01:33Speaker 4: afford to get you know, teeth repaired or replaced or whatever,
- 1:01:38Speaker 4: and they just have to have extractions done, you know,
- 1:01:41Speaker 4: pain as a result of you know, dental problems. And
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: then there's the physical aspect of if you've got a
- 1:01:48Speaker 4: tooth missing, then the self conscious aspect of that. Going
- 1:01:52Speaker 4: for a job, people you know, look at you differently
- 1:01:55Speaker 4: if you're missing teeth. So it is a big problem
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: in Australia as well. And if you could this by
- 1:02:01Speaker 4: having a cheap thing that you gargle every night and
- 1:02:03Speaker 4: it's going to protect your teeth, that's yay for that.
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, I agree.
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: If only they could then extrapolate that concept to antibiotics
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: that don't fuck up your good bacteria in your gut biome,
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: that would be nice. Imagine antibiotics that only kill the
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: bad stuff.
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: All right. Last one, we've gotten through our whole list,
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: which maybe a first scientists unveil a hemp alternative to
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: plastic hemp, being the marijuana plant fibery stuff. Did I
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: get that right, Patrick?
- 1:02:37Speaker 4: It's the best stuff. I bought a Hemp wallet recently because,
- 1:02:41Speaker 4: as you know, my car was broken into and my
- 1:02:43Speaker 4: wallet was stolen. Okay, I'm an idiot. I left my
- 1:02:45Speaker 4: wallet in my car, but I bought a new Hemp wallet,
- 1:02:48Speaker 4: which is going to last me forever for its dog
- 1:02:51Speaker 4: collar because it's yep, yep, because plastics in dog collars
- 1:02:55Speaker 4: and stuff. So hemp's really an amazing material that we're
- 1:02:58Speaker 4: not even really fully of you. And there's a green
- 1:03:02Speaker 4: alternative to plastic. And there's something that they can use hemp,
- 1:03:07Speaker 4: the cannabis plant, and it's non toxic. It's an alternative
- 1:03:11Speaker 4: to using what they call therma plastics. And it can
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: stretch to one six hundred percent of its size. It's
- 1:03:18Speaker 4: a bit like your head.
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: Oh gosh, see Brad, Brad right in now, like a
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: bit of support for a brother. I do think that
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: sounds like a apart from the last cominent, a good
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: product and the fact that it can with stand boiling
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: water and stuff with plastic generally can't or depends on
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: what thickness and tight tif Could you that bloke that's
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: walking around behind you, can you bring him up to
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: the microphone.
- 1:03:49Speaker 5: The one making all the noise yet.
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: The one that's trying to look like a fucking ninja.
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: It looks like a pisted Santa Claus just stumbling around
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: in the background. Good morning, good morning, Santa.
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: How are you? Oh?
- 1:04:04Speaker 8: Thank you very much, chatting.
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: We've been chatting about you while you've been surveilling your girlfriend.
- 1:04:12Speaker 6: Yeah, so I literally went, I wonder how the dog is?
- 1:04:16Speaker 6: I forgot to I was here and just press the
- 1:04:18Speaker 6: button and then I can hear people talking. I'm going,
- 1:04:21Speaker 6: that's that's crazy. It sounds like a Craig Harper podcasts.
- 1:04:24Speaker 6: And then I went, oh my god, you know Tiff
- 1:04:27Speaker 6: is doing the podcast in my house right now.
- 1:04:30Speaker 8: And then I turned the camera all the way around
- 1:04:32Speaker 8: so I couldn't see anything. But then I'm driving on
- 1:04:34Speaker 8: listening to the podcast live, going this.
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: Is actually super cool.
- 1:04:37Speaker 3: The camera's pointing at me. Guys, the camera pointing creepy.
- 1:04:41Speaker 3: So that last night not true?
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lie. Hang on, don't go waste Scott.
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: We haven't finished with you.
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: Ye, So you are telling us it's the girl that
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: spent the night with you last night?
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: Yes, right, and I'll leave it at that. And you've
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: forgot she was at your house? Did you you forgot?
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: Is that a lie? That was she?
- 1:05:09Speaker 8: She doesn't stay that often, Craig.
- 1:05:12Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but she stayed last night even more
- 1:05:15Speaker 4: special if she doesn't stay often. Just quietly sorry, mate,
- 1:05:18Speaker 4: I mean, I know we haven't physically met, but I
- 1:05:21Speaker 4: reckon that you've kind of put your foot in it there, buddy.
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: Sorry if I think you need to stay more often,
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: because when he leaves the house, it's like magically he
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: doesn't know. Yeah, I bet he got a surprise when
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: he came back in and there you were.
- 1:05:35Speaker 8: Yes, that's the best part about it.
- 1:05:38Speaker 4: Oh that's sweet, isn't it. You know what our doorway effect?
- 1:05:41Speaker 4: I remember we spoke about the doorway effect.
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well kind of I would call it
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: the dementia effect, but we'll go with the doorway effect.
- 1:05:52Speaker 8: Can I say a couple of things?
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: Oh? Fuck, I can't wait. Let me get comfortable. Hang on,
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: I'll get a beer. Go straight.
- 1:06:00Speaker 6: It's my first concert and Sony produced that CD and
- 1:06:03Speaker 6: it was the most sold CD of its kind. It
- 1:06:05Speaker 6: was amazing, so distress absolutely agree with that. I saw
- 1:06:08Speaker 6: the four first concert I saw. It was amazing.
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: Hemp.
- 1:06:12Speaker 8: At one stage it was.
- 1:06:13Speaker 6: The most grown crop on the planet and makes the
- 1:06:16Speaker 6: most amazing fire hoses because it's porous, so a little
- 1:06:19Speaker 6: bit of water can come out of the hose while
- 1:06:21Speaker 6: you're firefighting.
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: Hell, I hope you taking notes, everybody, And what about.
- 1:06:28Speaker 8: One more thing, please, one more thing. You produce an
- 1:06:31Speaker 8: analog cart sold in Spain.
- 1:06:33Speaker 6: It's a manual, has wind up windows, it has no
- 1:06:36Speaker 6: real electric stuff going on. It's about twenty thousand US
- 1:06:39Speaker 6: dollars and it's sold to Mexican farmers.
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, perfect, perfect, Hang on, hang on
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: before you go, Chatty mcchatster, we fucking love you. I'll
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: tell you what, if you could swap seats with TIF,
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: it'd be a much better showed me.
- 1:06:54Speaker 4: I'm screwed. He's much better than I am.
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: Nah TIFFs. All right, we'll keep you on.
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: Favorite single artist, male or female that you've ubbish. They
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: all have a band, but you know, when you go
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: and see you know an artist that you love, Like
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: when I went and saw Prince.
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: I don't go for the band that.
- 1:07:12Speaker 8: I loved your Prince story because I totally agree with that.
- 1:07:14Speaker 6: He's probably the most I think he's probably one of
- 1:07:16Speaker 6: the best guitarist in the world and massively underrated.
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: What Yeah, I agree.
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: I was blown and I played guitar since I was little.
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: I'm not a great guitarist, but I'm I know what
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: phenomenal guitarists look and sound like.
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: And he's right up there.
- 1:07:31Speaker 6: Yeah, he's one of the US. So my favorite artist
- 1:07:35Speaker 6: Nick Cave or Paul Dempsey.
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: Wow, wow, I don't even know who Paul Dempsey is.
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: Who's Paul Dempsey.
- 1:07:41Speaker 8: We'll take you to see him and you'll be very impressed.
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: All right, Well you might as well stay there and
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: say goodbye Patty before we go. What are you up
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: to today? Mate? Saturday? Have you got a date? Do
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: you go on dates? No?
- 1:07:56Speaker 4: No, but I'm available to go on dates if somebody. Okay, okay,
- 1:08:02Speaker 4: I'm actually going to a natural bodybuilding competition.
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: Wow.
- 1:08:07Speaker 4: Yeah, one of my clients has been a.
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: Clothing You might get a date there. Just take what
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: you need to do to fit in is take a
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: little tap away thing of chicken breast and steams, rice
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: and broccoli, take some baby oil and just call everyone
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: bro and you could get a date.
- 1:08:28Speaker 4: Oh dear, Yeah, okay, I'll take that on board. And
- 1:08:33Speaker 4: I'm flying my drone again this afternoon and then tomorrow
- 1:08:36Speaker 4: I'm putting on a little birthday celebration for a friend
- 1:08:38Speaker 4: who's turning eighty Oh.
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: Bless, what's what's his or her name?
- 1:08:43Speaker 4: John?
- 1:08:44Speaker 2: John? Happy birthday from me and Tiff.
- 1:08:50Speaker 3: Happy birthday, oh god, specific, I'm what are you just saying?
- 1:08:58Speaker 3: Happy birthday from me?
- 1:08:59Speaker 7: And or that's a good pointing today I did fuck
- 1:09:05Speaker 7: that up before that, John, Happy birthday from everyone at
- 1:09:08Speaker 7: t YP And Tiff, what are you doing?
- 1:09:11Speaker 3: I believe that we might be going for lunch with
- 1:09:14Speaker 3: Scott's brother today, and I'm also having dinner which I
- 1:09:18Speaker 3: forgot about with a very good friend of mine.
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: Right, and what about the dance with no pants? Is
- 1:09:23Speaker 2: there any of that this morning?
- 1:09:24Speaker 5: See if we squeeze that in at some point.
- 1:09:26Speaker 2: Yeah, give the up?
- 1:09:27Speaker 8: Thank you?
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, the horizontal lombarda well, thank you so
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: much for sharing that with us. I'm well done, Tiff.
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: The way you just rolled with that fucking great. Patrick,
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: tell people how they can find you.
- 1:09:45Speaker 4: Please, don't websites now, dot com, dot au look, give
- 1:09:54Speaker 4: us a message, tell us who's the funniest person is?
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: I think it's Tiff. Yeah, what's dep not me? So
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: don't do that. And also Patrick will be at the
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: bodybuilding keep an eye out for him. He'll have a
- 1:10:04Speaker 2: bandanna on and yeah, and a T shirt that says
- 1:10:08Speaker 2: as hard as fuck, So that would be good. Thanks mate,
- 1:10:15Speaker 2: see you Scottie.
- 1:10:16Speaker 8: Okay, Thank you very very much.
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: It's really lovely to listen while I was John Long Yeah,
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: well done.
- 1:10:21Speaker 5: Thanks TIV, thanks