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That Game was the Concussion Bowl-Reckless and Dangerous The CFL Outsiders S03 E17 · The CFL Outsiders

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Hey kids, welcome back to another episode of the CFL Outsiders.
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I remain as always, you're one hundred percent impartial,
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completely unbiased,
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you
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and ready for football after Labor Day host,
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Old Man
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Thanks
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Shouting at Clouds.
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Mm-hmm.
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Joining me as usual this week is MJ.
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You
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I
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I don't doubt that. Yeah. Football,
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it can adds so much joy to our life and so much despair at times.
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Tough sledding, tough sleddin.
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Mm.
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And also, another guest this week,
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part of the whole MJ MJ2 Football CFL family mafia,
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I'm told.
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Hmm.
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We've got MP joining us this week.
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Hey MP, you you wouldn't
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Hey.
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be a fan of any given team, would you?
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Yes, very much a BC Line fan, but I'm humbled and honoured to be here
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and just talk football.
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Yes. Great. You were you were telling me a bit about your memorabilia
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in the background there and how you got that.
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Yes, do. I was a teacher for 18 years,
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so I do have a student that was in my class and he knew that I was a BC Lion fan.
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So I've got a Damon Allen signing and then the next year a dad knew that
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I was into football and I've got something from Wally Bonos when he was in BC.
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So I'm honored to be able to put those things back there.
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And of course I've got the newbie,
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the Rourke thing. That jersey was before he went to down south,
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so I never knew it was going to be a souvenir or not,
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but he came back, so it's good.
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Yes.
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And unfortunately a a rough Labor Day for the Lions too,
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but so that goes. And
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Yeah.
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and for me I just wanted to acknowledge ready for post Labor Day here.
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Well I've got this I like this jacket a lot.
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This I've had for a little bit now.
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My birthday was a bit over a month ago and the goddess gave me this.
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But what got me inspired to do it was out of the blue I got a package from
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Someone else on the podcast here.
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MJ made me this wonderful rider's toque,
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which is just fantastic. I'm told y
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Wow.
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you told me you had fun doing it.
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I like it a lot. I'm gonna be set up.
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But I'm also way too hot here in the studio for that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Whoops, there goes one of
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my earphones too. Ha ha
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It looks great.
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I s had to take a picture
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of a rider's logo to the yarn store and walk
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Ha ha ha.
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~
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around
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with an employee trying to find the Anyway,
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Yeah.
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I had a lot of fun. I'm happy it found its way to you and you ~ and it fits.
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DICKMAN
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It fits great. Thank you.
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Never know.
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I'm I said it it it makes it even better knowing you had fun with it.
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Well I'm gonna go with one headphone tonight or one earphone tonight.
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It's not worth looking for around the studio where that of them went to.
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But I love the fact that that you had so much joy in just putting
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it all together for it and everything.
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That makes me treasure it even more.
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So thank
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Mm-hmm.
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you very much. There are
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I take
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~ very expensive commissions, if anyone else is interested in
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Hahaha!
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Okay. Well we'll we all people know where to find
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us.
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Yeah.
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Yes, it's ~ sometimes I realize I'm a very fortunate old man.
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So thank you.
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Mm-hmm.
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Moving into the show though, we got a lot of good stuff to talk about here,
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but unfortunately one very bad thing to start with.
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We always hate to see a loss of the football community and especially when it's
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a someone far too young.
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whether in there in football or not.
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But news came through today that the a second year running back out
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of the Windsor Lancers program,
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Nathan ~ Gazitti, I believe is pronunciation.
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I hope I'm close on that. Passed away on the weekend.
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~ no details about what the cause of death was But a nineteen year old
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in the prime of life in the enjoying playing for a you know,
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a great sport and it's
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It's just so unfair and unfortunate.
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I wanted to take the chance to pass our condolences along to teammates,
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Yes.
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family, everyone that knew and loved Nathan.
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I'm I'm sure he'll be greatly missed.
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All the the initial reactions,
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including one from his brother,
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were just about what a fantastic person was and how he improved
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the lives of everyone around him.
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So so rest in peace, Nathan, but it's
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Yep.
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unfortunate that that has happened.
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Okay. moving on to that to well this is nowhere near as bad,
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but I don't know that it's a happier topic.
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I wanted to start on this one and get both of your opinions on it.
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Because there were a lot of strange things that happened on the weekend.
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A lot of good football, a lot of not so good football,
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certainly exciting stuff. However,
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in the Hamilton game there with
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a little under five minutes to go in the half,
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Trey ran a touchdown into the end zone,
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got spun around on the tackle and his head slammed down,
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and if you watch the replays, it was obvious that there was something wrong.
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He went down hard, didn't move at all.
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In fact his hands were shaking.
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And the teammates kind of rushed around him and basically picked
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him up and congratulated him. And
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It was a head injury that took him out of the game,
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which is unfortunate it's a real part of football.
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I get that. But he played three more series after that.
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Yeah.
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They they pulled him at the start of the second half after supposedly examining him,
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playing three series where he got sacked twice and ran the ball once,
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so took three more hits he didn't need,
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which compound a a concussion or can compound a concussion something
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Mm-hmm.
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terribly. How am I out?
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Overboard, what do you think? Was was Hamilton out of line with
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how they handled that?
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I'm not sure it was handled well.
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I wondered when he came back in.
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I thought, man, he just doesn't seem like himself out there.
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I mean, up to that point, Hamilton is doing well.
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they had some penalties that were causing some problems for their offense.
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But other than that, Trey was handling the game well.
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He has that touchdown. He goes out.
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He comes back in. I thought, man,
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he's just not there. And you could tell by he didn't have the efficiency.
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It was just happening too quickly for him.
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MJ, how did you feel about it?
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~ you know what, I ~ I my sister and I have been texting a lot about this.
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we are diehard TyCat fans, and
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Hmm.
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we have not like I'm gonna do this by committee,
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but I don't think we have furiously texted about how upset we were about
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a TIE Cat's organization since I hired Art Bryals.
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I am just so upset. He was obviously unconscious.
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Mm.
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So first first thing that was wrong was that his teammates just like yanked
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him up off the ground. No. No.
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Be like he you saw him, they were pulling him off.
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He didn't even look, he didn't even know where he was.
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Yeah. Yeah, he couldn't have walked off they without their support.
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~ No,
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Yeah.
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he couldn't. They dragged him off the field.
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They put him in the concussion,
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like this the tent, and sent him out the next series.
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He didn't know where he was.
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And it is not his job to tell you if he can play or not.
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No. No.
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That is on
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the medical staff, and that's on coaching staff,
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and that is on Scott Milanovic,
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end of. And I was so furious. But you know who else they let ~ Keric Wheat Fall.
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He was clearly
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Yes.
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concussed. They let him
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It's true.
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play. Herslow
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very obviously concussed played the rest of the game too.
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So I just dubbed that bowl the concussion that game was a concussion bowl
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and it was reckless and dangerous.
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And I honestly felt I thought maybe this is me.
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I don't know. We were just talking about the NFL player safety last week
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and actually got some really rude comments on Instagram about people being like,
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you just like we should be playing 1970s football.
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You're like it's just like pansy,
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blah blah blah blah blah. And I'm
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Mm.
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like, I feel like I just watched three men's lives be ruin
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And I paid
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Yeah.
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to watch that happen. And
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Mm-hmm.
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it made me actually really kind of sick to my stomach.
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And I didn't actually really enjoy football the whole rest of the weekend because
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I was just it was
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you
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so awful to watch. And for no reason.
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Those three should
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Yes. Anyone who
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So.
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not have been back on the field.
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Sit them down. That's that it's that that's it's so reckless with people's long-term
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health, especially with what we know about CTE.
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we just talked about Arlan Bruce.
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I was like telling my husband,
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I'm like
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These men are gonna have no monetary recourse based on the precedent that
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was set with Arlene Bruce's hearing.
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Yeah.
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So no matter what's happened to them now,
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like they're been designated employee and there's there's no recourse
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for them if there's a long-term injury because of what happened on Monday.
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So
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where is the CFL's responsibility as spotters?
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that not commonplace anymore? Are they supposed to pick up on that or
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am I missing something?
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they
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are
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usually say that they did pull them,
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but I actually didn't hear that they said the concussion spotter had pulled.
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didn't
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The
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reporting
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either.
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I saw after that on the weekend said that the spotter did call for him
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to be checked out. And frankly,
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that's all the CFL spotter can do.
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From there you've got what's supposed to be a independent medical professional
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who assesses him and decides. And again,
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I'm not in that tent, but
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I can't see how just from the obvious way that he was,
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as you said, MB just after the hit and then when he was back in the game.
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It was it seemed fairly obvious.
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The other two, I think I would agree with you that that both Wheatville
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and Hurslow may have been concussed.
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They were certainly hurt. They were not playing well.
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I try not to say, this is absolutely has to be the thing,
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but in Trey's case it was obvious.
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Mm-hmm.
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There was n nothing else to that hit that would have done that to him.
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And yeah, I agree with you, where is the CFL's response in this?
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There should be some sort of pushback,
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some sort of discipline for the Tiger Cats organization for the
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way that was handled. That's my opinion.
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Yeah.
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In defense of the players that surrounded him,
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perhaps they wanted to rally around him and say,
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Troy, you got this. Trey, you got this.
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We want you to play instead of thinking about the health part of it
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and getting the guys to come in off the sidelines to help out.
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So I'm just saying maybe they're like,
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Trey, you got this. You're OK,
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buddy. Good job kind of thing,
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They might not have noticed that he was unconscious.
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Yeah, they just caught
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Yeah.
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up in the moment. I don't know.
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But either way, it's a bad
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Plus don't forget,
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thing.
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yeah. Plus don't forget your players are a bunch of people in their twenties
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and early 30s. And
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~ good point.
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they're coming at the game from a in the middle,
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we've just scored a touchdown to get back into this game.
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We're enthusiastic. We're happy for it.
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You're probably maybe when you see it,
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you're a bit worried for Tre but I can see the instinct to,
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well, you know, let's get him up into the sidelines.
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And then if
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Yeah.
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there's any problem, they'll keep them out.
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But, you know, let's not make a big deal of it.
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That I don't agree with, but I can see it coming from a player.
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Right.
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Coaches in their Yeah. Yeah.
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gonna push back. I'm gonna push back because
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when VA was unconscious there was a player underneath him and that guy
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did not move because he realized that he was unconscious and just stayed there
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instead of rolling off and pushing him off.
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So you can do it. You can't
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Hmm. Mm-hmm.
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Yeah. yeah, you st you
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definitely can. And I'm not saying that it was okay f how the players handled it,
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but I'm saying I can understand that and not necessarily need to come down
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on them so hard. But you have coaches that are in there later in life,
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you have trainers, you have medical professionals who understand all
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of this and they let him go back out and play.
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This is just kinda how Scott's running his team I feel like.
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I honestly he can pack his bags.
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I'm so done.
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It's a team in desperation
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and yeah.
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winning at all costs isn't winning.
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No. No, there's there's a lot more to football than winning.
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I definitely I agree with that.
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my team lost they lost anyway.
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I would rather my team lose in Labor Day than have somebody's life ruined.
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That's it's and any game.
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Yeah. Well in any game. I'd rather we lose a great cup than yeah.
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Any game. But like that's a bet that's
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like that that game is a Ty Cats like that is the game if you're a Ty Cats fan.
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But it's not it's nothing's worth winning that game.
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No. And I the last thing I'll say is to frankly,
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any ~ don't mind calling them idiots.
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Any of these idiots that are out there saying,
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~ football's become too soft, we need to play the way the the way it used to be.
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I'm sorry. When when I started playing football,
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there were coaches who said water breaks made you weak.
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You know, it was just a stupid time to be playing football.
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Yeah.
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And we've learned
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so much more now. And anyone it just tells me that none of these people
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have actually seen someone have to deal with the repercussions
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of a serious concussion.
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Right.
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Because it is it can be debilitating for ~ weeks,
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months, for the rest of your life,
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depending on how it goes. And I I speak from that personally,
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not myself, but pe ~ someone close to me has never recovered from
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a football injury that was a just it was a clean semi clean play.
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No, it wasn't. It was a
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an ear hole hit from a player,
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but I mean it was part of the game and just never recovered.
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So
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Mm.
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anyway, that's hopefully that's the the real snarky,
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bitchy complaining stuff out of the way 'cause I I don't think I'm alone here just
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from the way you two have reacted.
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That pisses me off when they take when they take the sport to a place that
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it shouldn't be. Safety does have to come first.
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This is just people making a living.
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You know?
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Yeah, this is their job,
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yeah, for sure.
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We
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we send a fireman into a fire and we do everything we can to make sure they come
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back out safe and they're in there trying to save lives.
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This is just a game that people are making their money at and let's keep
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Good point.
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that in mind. Alright. So anyway,
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that's we're we're building up from really bad to not so bad to ~
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Thank
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and we'll get better and then we'll get into the games and some of them weren't
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so great, but the that Yes,
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It's like the trajectory of these games as well.
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yeah, exactly.
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But we're we're on a steady climb at this point because the other thing
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to announce is that the CFL has released their app.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yay!
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We're in September. Not September first,
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but we're in September. So it's released.
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I don't know if either of you have tried it out yet.
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I downloaded
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Okay, so did sorry.
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it, but MJ?
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so I tried to download it and I just put in CFL and nothing showed up.
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~
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Nope, you need a semicolon.
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And I was scrolling,
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scrolling, scrolling, and then finally someone on Blue Sky like posting,
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I'm like, this is I don't see it,
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guys. And so I'm like, you have to put CFL col in and I'm like,
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Yeah. Yes. And then
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jokes anyway. And you have
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True.
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to use a you have to log in to see anything on the app.
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Yes, you do.
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Yeah,
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I haven't done that yet, but I just did it.
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Yeah. But yeah, good good call on that.
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That was gonna be my point, is that for whatever reason,
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Yeah, so
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at least I don't know on Google,
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but at least on the Apple App Store,
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yeah, it just typing in CFL gets you a lot of confusion,
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but nothing there. But as you said,
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MJ, type in is it colon? I can never remember.
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Those two little points anyway,
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Yeah.
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two little dots there, and then it grays
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Yeah.
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out the rest, the ultimate CFL experience or something,
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and you can load it. And it's I didn't have time to to go through it a lot.
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It looks a lot like the
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basically what the website does.
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So there might be a little easier functionality and you more user friendly interface
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in it. We'll find out over the next the rest of the season.
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They're trying.
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Yes, they are.
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trying.
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And they are in both senses of the word,
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because they can be very trying at times too.
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Now I I
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weird
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know I expect a lot. I'm a demanding person.
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I demand a lot of myself about not making mistakes.
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And one of the things I gotta say that's really has annoyed me a little
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bit in this ~ in this whole media upgrade from them
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Is the app is okay, it's great.
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The new website impacts all the other CFL websites,
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and things aren't where they used to be anymore.
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Which is okay, that's fine. But if I'm going looking for injury reports
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and you've changed your website,
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then on on the page where you say this page doesn't work anymore,
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redirect me to where it does now work.
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Thank
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Instead of just, no, this is out of bounds.
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Go back home and do what you want,
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you know.
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Yeah.
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Just
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Mickey Mouse
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Yeah.
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Mickey Mouse. It's not the end of the world,
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but it has certainly hasn't made my life any easier.
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Let's see then. Okay, so now t continuing our climb.
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A good news, a new record, although you know,
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yeah. Trevor Harris's weekend.
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Needed a hundred and twenty seven yards to pass Doug Flutie for tenth
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all time in the CFL passing yardage,
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and he got it on a beauty play to Daniel Weeb.
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That ~ Weeb gets a
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Mm.
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lot more credit for the the extensive yardage than than Harris did,
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but he got that out. He ended up the weekend with
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Forty-one thousand five hundred and ninety yards for tenth place,
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which is just over Flutie's forty one three fifty-five.
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Now I went
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Hello.
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to see, okay, so because I know Flutie played a while,
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but it seemed like less, and Harris is of course playing at what is it,
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seventy eight years of old now,
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I think, or something. It's so he's had some time on him.
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But it's difficult. I couldn't find how many games Doug Flutie played in the CFL.
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The best that I could find was
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interesting.
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different places that told me that he started almost every game he ever played
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in the CFL and that he started I've got numbers that went anywhere from about
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121 to I think 129 games.
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That's not on the CFL app stats sheet.
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Well, I I didn't check there.
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anything before twenty sixteen on there,
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I heard, so or twenty fifteen.
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okay, that could be I
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was doing this when I before I did the show prep,
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so I hadn't even checked that.
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But what I did find is that apparently Harris may or may not have played
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in two hundred and nine games,
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so that's, you
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and
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know, at least thirty percent more,
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but he started somewhere around a hundred and forty games.
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I I couldn't even find that definitively.
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So it looks like he started about a season more than what Flutie did.
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And that's
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Considering how good Flute he was,
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that's not bad matching him in just one more year.
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Yeah, however kudos to Harris for lasting this long to get to that point too,
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right? So he definitely played more games.
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Yeah. And getting better over the last five years of his career.
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Yeah.
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~ absolutely. He was on a journey for a while.
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Yeah.
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Back when he was with Ottawa, I was I was impressed with his talent a bit,
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but not
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Mm.
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with his leadership. He made some comments that made me really question
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if he understood what it meant to be part of a team.
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then he bounced around a bit got in with some other coaches And I'll
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say that that has changed completely between I don't know if we credit
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the folks in Edmonton, Montreal or Saskatchewan but he's very much more
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of a team guy and he has learned to
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lean on his teammates. So congratulations,
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Yeah.
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Trevor. Glad to see you playing at forty years of age and still doing well.
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Yeah, for sure.
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I the next
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one up on the list is Matt Dunigan,
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but he's about twenty three hundred yards away.
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So unless Trevor plays another year of football,
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I don't think he'll get there.
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he'd have to average something like about four hundred and twenty yards
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a game to catch him this season.
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All right. moving along, other little bits of news.
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D D Zone. D Z A N, however,
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the the our new part time CFL broadcasters next year announced that they've hired
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Chris Striveler as an NFL CFL analyst for this year and next year he'll
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be in the booth doing the games for them.
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What do you think? Good choice?
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Bad choice?
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he has been like on a tear this ~ season on Instagram and TikTok doing
19:49
CFL videos and hyping up the CFL.
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they're very bold in your face and I think that's exactly what Dzone is after,
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so that's a it's a perfect choice.
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Yeah, I think he's a good ambassador for the league and he's played in both leagues.
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hats off to them for hiring him.
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I agree. He is a great ambassador.
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He certainly is not shy about telling everybody how wonderful the C F L is,
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which is so good to see from someone who's played both leagues.
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It makes me cautiously optimistic for who else will be in the on the zone panel
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and booth.
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it will be interesting. what they go with for sort of that veteran play by play guy,
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if they if they bring in someone there,
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and then who else do they have?
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How many do they have doing the ~ the analyst on the panel?
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I w I would hope that they'll it'll won't be just the two that TSN has that they
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go with maybe a couple at least of analysts.
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And there are a lot of recently retired players who could fit into that role really
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nicely.
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Guess it depends on the budget.
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Yeah,
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that's true. Funny how people want to get paid.
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Weird. Hmm.
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Yeah, here we are talking about it for free.
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Okay. yes. Well, you know, we're we're passionate.
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This is a passion project for us.
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Plus who'd pay to listen to us?
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~
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Yes.
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now I'll I'll give you a little give everybody a little peek behind
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the scenes here too. We we generally I look at what's in the news the
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gay before we do the show here,
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and then I send out to
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Whoever else is gonna be on, in this case,
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MJ and MB. Here's what I think we should talk about.
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Do you have anything else to talk about?
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And that's how we set it up. And then I throw together a show rundown and
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we go from there. Usually it's pretty self-explanatory.
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This time MJ came back to me with a couple of things that we should put in here,
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and one made sense, and the other one was something
21:39
Perfect.
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about cruises for O-linemen or bit for big guy.
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No, not O line. I just said a big the big guy cruised.
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And I'm thinking Big Guy
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Cruise, yes. So
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I wasn't sure what that's about.
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So I just with with the faith I have in you as as always,
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it's on the list. So what the heck are we talking about?
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Keep getting ads for it, so we're gonna talk about it.
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~ advertising works, friends. Uniglobe is has what are they calling
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the ultimate fan football fan cruise?
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it's on February 20th to 27th of next year.
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And you can go on a cruise with the following CFL players:
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AJ Olette, Jake Serresna, Adam Bickhill,
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and Willie Jefferson. So.
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~ wow. And it doesn't matter
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where they're cruising, but did they say?
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it's
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like Turks and Caicos and Bahamas,
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I think. So So you can
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Hello.
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spend spring break with the big boys.
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Unlimited budget? Would you do it?
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Me? No, I'm not stepping foot on a cruise ship.
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If they if they did it at port,
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I might be interested. I think I just want
22:43
You must be.
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to hang out with Willie Jefferson all day to be quite honest.
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So wait a minute, there two Winnipeg and two Saskatchewan on that list?
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I mean, Adam's retired obviously,
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let's see. We had two from Winnipeg Sares
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It's I
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but...
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think feel
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and
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like Adam retired as a Calgary Stampeter.
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Yeah. Right. Yeah.
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right, yeah. Yeah. So so
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one ex Stampeder, but ~ Serezna and and ~ Willy are both bombers and yeah,
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Yeah,
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Yeah. So it was just
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so they need yeah
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~ Serezna, Big Hill and Jefferson.
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They just I just saw a new ad for it that they've added AJ,
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so who knows who else will be involved by the time your crews sets sail.
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Okay, another Saskatchewan,
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Yeah. Yeah. Y you've
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another
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Saskatchewan.
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gotta find someone
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who's a big name but hasn't quite made enough money that they're that they're
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they're willing to do this. Yes.
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I feel like Sean Lemon is g also gonna be on this cruise.
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Yeah. So
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yeah, so let let us humbly suggest to whoever's making up this cruise
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a couple of names. Sean Lemmon,
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who is still doing so well, and maybe Xander Horvath
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'Cause he's the darling of the league
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Woo!
23:38
right now and still making rookie money as far as I know,
23:41
so he might be a prime.
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And he have you seen the guns
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on that guy? Like he's huge.
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Yeah. Peace.
23:45
He's impressive,
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yes.
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Yeah.
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Well, I gotta say it's it would be combining probably the my favorite thing
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in life with probably what may be my least favorite thing in life.
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So no, I wouldn't do it. ~ Yes.
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Yeah, I'm a lion lover too, so.
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Yeah. Although my parents like
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The the goddess talk
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to go cruising so maybe they can go on this cruise.
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There you go, yes.
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That's true.
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Christmas present coming up.
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The goddess is big on cruising,
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so I can mention it to her. She talked me into
24:07
Yeah. Yeah.
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doing one cruise and that was enough to convince me.
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You
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All right. where else did I have here?
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~ CFL spicy social media.
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Did you catch
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You
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the statement from the Alouettes after the BC Lions game?
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Yes.
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I think it's good for the league to have this stuff going back and forth
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and being on different platforms.
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think it's wonderful.
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yeah. It's to me it's just it's the it is the ultimate sort of
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CFL trash talking where you're not actually being hateful towards anybody.
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I said before, it's kinda like sibling mockery.
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You you make
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Yep.
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fun of people when things go wrong.
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And so yeah, the the Alouettes came out after the Lions came
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you
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out with their apology about how they weren't gonna do a winning meme against
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Yeah.
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Sottawa and then had to pull that.
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The the Aloez basically came out with one that said
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Well, out of respect for the lions,
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we won't put a winning meme up because we don't want them to have
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Yeah, like who had copped out Yeah,
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to pull something again or whatever.
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That's great.
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like the the lines who copped out and deleted their post,
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like
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Yeah.
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Yes. And like you Ben pointed out last
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There's no copyright restrictions.
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week, MJ, the the bombers got in with the their one about an old post about Regina
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Pizza and everything. So I like to see the people in
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~ smicky.
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the social and the media departments having fun and and poking fun like this.
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Yeah, I agree.
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Yeah, that one was really funny.
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And like well they did it in French first.
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On the first slide was in French and everyone's like,
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~ Yeah, yeah,
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and then the second slide was in English.
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I'm like, this is amazing.
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yeah.
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Thank you so much. That's
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Yeah. Classic stuff.
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the woman who runs the ~ Alouettes social media,
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she is just a firecracker. She's she is
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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the best in the biz. Like her and whoever is running the bombers and whoever
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and her like they are just elite.
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No. And it's
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it's a tough combination to to get of being just snarky as heck without actually
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being disrespectful. You know
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Hmm.
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Yeah.
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Well it's a little on the but I mean it's they're
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Yeah well it's honest. I wouldn't call it disrespectful.
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It's just pointing out what's real,
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Yeah. Well ~ play better then.
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but
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Yeah. Yep.
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Yeah, there you go. There's the answer.
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There's the answer.
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Yeah, always.
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You don't want to fear the wrath of the Montreal Alouettes social media team.
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You need to you must win.
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Yes.
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Okay, so now the roller coaster goes back down a little bit here 'cause another just
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quick bit of news, unfortunately,
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from the BC Lions. their one of their newer players,
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Josh Bond, a fullback who was a linebacker with the Okanagan Sun and came
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in on a territorial exemption,
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has been suspended for two games because of no what do they call it?
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Performance enhancing whatever.
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A drug
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Yeah.
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an illegal drug. Damphetamine.
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Don't know what it is. They just said it's an unlisted Okay.
26:57
It's ~ it's an AD it's ADHD medication.
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So same thing
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So this could be the
27:01
Hmm.
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that happened to Lucius Pyrifoy,
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where you're taking ADHD
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Yeah, could could be the same.
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medicines that were not prescribed to you.
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that makes sense. It it'll be interesting for me though,
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and this is again maybe me being a little bit snarky with stuff,
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but it'll be interesting to see how people react to this because it seems like
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s this comes out and it's somebody who most people haven't heard of
27:23
and they just don't really care.
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And if anything they may sort of give him some benefit of the doubt.
27:28
But then when it happens with a big name player like six,
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seven years ago, Andrew Harris.
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Mm.
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Everybody
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has a huge opinion and everybody's screaming what a cheater he is and how terrible
27:40
Ha
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it is and stuff like that. So I
27:44
I would not equate taking
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an ADHD medication, which is he probably needs.
27:49
Maybe I don't know, I don't know him personally,
27:51
to using like steroids. I think those are the two very different things,
27:56
and I think Andrew Harris deserved everything he got called out on.
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Well, th I
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agree they're different things,
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but ~ I also think though that we have to have a little bit of charity
28:05
and humility on this. Andrew Harris may have been doing it specifically
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to try and build himself up and build up his physical prowess,
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or it may have been a supplement in something that he was taking that
28:18
he thought was reasonable. Now I don't I'm not a fan of supplements,
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I don't think you need to take them anywhere.
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But my whole point in this is just that
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I think in all the cases I think we should have a little bit of charity
28:29
and unless you see a repeat offense on from somebody,
28:32
you don't automatically assume that they're they were in the wrong.
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Go ahead, push back, I'm okay with it,
28:41
but that's just my opinion.
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Well, I hope that Bond ~ gets his ADHD diagnosis officially and actually runs
28:48
it through the team doctor instead of just like testing out someone else's stuff.
28:53
I mean, players know the policy and they have to respect the parameters that
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are given to them, so...
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I'm not complaining about the suspension.
29:02
I think that that you have to have it.
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Whether you know that you're taking the stuff or not,
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it's still breaking a rule and you have to follow those rules so because otherwise,
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yeah, it's back to what we said about player safety.
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Players will do stupid things to their body to try and be a better player
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and not realize
29:17
Great.
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the the long term stuff on it.
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So I'm glad the that what you said,
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MJ, about this being more the ADHD stuff,
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that's
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Good to hear because you're right,
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it is more probably just someone trying to deal with you know some
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of the challenges of life. And
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Mm.
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Lord knows we all have enough of those,
29:36
so yes. All right.
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Back to the good news. I thought this was fantastic news.
29:44
I suppose it's maybe to be expected from Labor Day,
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but we had the highest average attendance of the year.
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By over
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Yep.
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a thousand players. Or a thousand players.
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A thousand.
29:54
Over a thousand fans. the average was at twenty seven just yeah,
29:59
just over twenty seven thousand.
30:01
And that was so Saskatchewan led the way with the a sellout at thirty four again.
30:05
But even Calgary, who I don't think has got over twenty yet,
30:08
were up at twenty almost twenty six.
30:10
Hamilton was twenty one in change and Montreal was almost twenty three.
30:16
So it was fairly close to sell outs in at least three of those four.
30:22
Well, summer's finished and everybody's back to work and back to the regular events.
30:26
It's too bad Calgary had that rain come in.
30:29
don't know whether 26 or 1,000 were the ones that were sold or were
30:32
the ones that were there. I'm just not sure,
30:34
but it did have a rain there too.
30:35
Maybe they could have got more.
30:37
Yeah, that that's true. It's we've said that before.
30:39
It as we understand it, it's a the sold attendance.
30:43
Okay.
30:44
So it's not counting ticket stubs,
30:46
but still.
30:47
That's actually impressive for Calgary considering everyone's
30:49
Yep.
30:49
still in the mountains Labor Day weekend.
30:51
Yeah,
30:52
exactly. But it is on the Monday,
30:54
so people come back a bit early and I believe still a lot of CFL fans
30:58
out there who are casual fans who check out the standings through the summer.
31:03
They'll
31:03
Hmm.
31:04
see the game highlights But whether you agree with it or not,
31:08
the myth of the CFL starting at Labor Day is out there.
31:12
And I think I
31:12
You
31:13
think there are people who wait until now to start really paying attention.
31:17
Getting back to Calgary, I wish they could get a new stadium.
31:20
mean, when you look at Winnipeg Stadium and Saskatchewan's,
31:25
I'm thinking, ~ Calgary, you're in need.
31:29
They're asking for bids for feasibility studies for a new stadium now.
31:33
Yes. Yes.
31:33
What what does that mean
31:34
I did hear that, so that's a stint that we made.
31:37
though? I was like, hmm. Alright.
31:37
~ I don't know, but
31:40
Something's gotta happen.
31:40
I personally
31:41
if it's going to the lowest bidder,
31:43
I'll put in a bit of a hundred bucks and my response will be build a stadium.
31:47
You need the bloody thing. Yeah.
31:49
Already, yeah.
31:51
But I don't know. Yeah, they're saying I think they were saying something like what,
31:54
a hundred and twenty seven million or whatever they're projecting
31:57
for a a feasibility study. I don't know how the world works.
32:02
I don't even know where you put a new stadium there.
32:04
Yeah. Well, you might ha yeah,
32:06
you might have to go to a whole different chunk of land.
32:09
I mean the
32:09
Is there anything
32:10
down by BMO? The new BMO?
32:13
Well so
32:13
fun story is they were supposed to put the Stampeders down there with
32:17
the new Flame Stadium and then like the the ownership group just left
32:21
the Stampeders out of it when things got rig jigged a bit and they just dropped them
32:25
off
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bid.
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unfortunately for Alberta,
32:26
Yeah.
32:27
which has always been a fantastic C F L powerhouse and a great home for it,
32:31
they have two of the older stadiums in the league now.
32:36
yeah for sure
32:37
that's the fun story, right, right?
32:38
Like the city of Edmonton owns Commonwealth.
32:41
So if you wanna build a new stadium,
32:42
you're basically gonna have to move.
32:44
Hmm.
32:45
If you're Edmonton and then Calgary,
32:47
UFC owns that stadium. And they're building their own new stadium.
32:51
That's only like it holds like 5,000 people.
32:54
So I don't know what they're doing with that land.
32:56
But I mean good good luck trying to buy that from the U of C It's prime real estate
33:00
now. ~ but
33:01
Yes.
33:02
you need to have somewhere where that's like transit accessible,
33:05
and that makes what it tricky to find a new spot to put your stadium,
33:10
unless you're like the Tycast where you
33:12
just build on your old stadium but then you have to move
33:13
Build on top of it. Yeah.
33:15
for a year. But they owned that land so that's you know it's it's just it's tricky.
33:19
Yeah. And it was a funny year in Guelph,
33:20
so
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~ yeah, so much fun.
33:23
Yes, but but you know, yeah, the Tiger Cats have put up something fairly
33:26
new recently, so have the Riders,
33:28
so have the Bombers. Ottawa's re-jigging theirs over the next three years.
33:32
And I've never been in BMO but everything
33:33
B C Renault theirs.
33:35
I've heard about it is it's actually not a bad stadium.
33:38
It's supposed to be a fairly good stadium.
33:40
So that's about half the teams in the league that have good places to play.
33:45
B C is still since they've changed the made the changes to B C Place,
33:48
I still don't think it's a great football stadium,
33:50
but it is it's got all the amenities and you're not gonna complain about going there
33:53
sure. Right.
33:54
like you will with McMahon
33:55
or McMahone or Yes.
33:56
It is a fantastic transit stadium.
33:59
Yes,
34:00
I've been on it several times.
34:00
You cannot you cannot
34:02
Yeah.
34:02
Very easy to get there. They
34:02
do any better.
34:04
got that part right. And it is set up it's kind of again,
34:08
I haven't been to Ottawa, but I'm told it's the same sort of thing.
34:10
You are near such a fantastic entertainment district too,
34:14
that there's so much to just roll from the the games into what else you're going
34:20
to do and room for outdoor pre-game stuff well,
34:24
hopefully Calgary and some of the others will get it together.
34:28
for sure.
34:29
Beat that to death. Okay,
34:30
Yeah.
34:31
what else did we have? A ~ couple of player transactions to talk about.
34:34
Ottawa continues their complete rollover of staff.
34:38
They the only one really worth mentioning is ~ Havakuk Baldonado,
34:43
who they signed for a hundred and seventy-five thousand dollars away from
34:47
the riders and have now released him.
34:49
Be interesting to see if we he land somewhere.
34:53
But along with him they also released six others and they've signed four new ones,
34:56
I think one of which had CFL experience.
34:58
So they're they're just running through the players trying to find someone
35:03
who can do it. I mean it makes sense at this point in the year.
35:06
And
35:07
Yeah, for sure. They're purging.
35:09
The purging has begun.
35:10
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Not
35:11
That's a purchase because.
35:12
Don't want to show up for Monday practice as a red black players these days.
35:16
Yeah. Hopefully you didn't sign a lease.
35:16
There you go.
35:18
Yes.
35:18
Montreal is the only other one on there.
35:20
Player transactions. They had Thies at running back and Awe both put on
35:25
the six game list, so that won't help them out.
35:27
Hopefully it looks like Stevie Scott the third is ready to come back.
35:30
Will he perform the way Teese did?
35:32
I don't know. And then they re signed Charleston Rambo at receiver.
35:35
I didn't see anybody else hurt,
35:38
so I'm not sure
35:39
where that came from. And they signed their first round draft trick.
35:44
First round draft pick from last year,
35:46
Rowan Jones, who's apparently a tight end fullback,
35:50
who got a look down in the NFL and cut out of training camp.
35:53
Just what Montreal needs, more offensive weapons.
35:56
Honestly, it's not even fair.
35:57
Yes.
35:59
Alright, but everybody else was stable so far,
36:02
or or so it appears. And it doesn't even look like there's other than Trey that
36:06
there was a lot of injury carnage out of the ~ long term carnage anyway,
36:10
out of the the Labor Day weekend,
36:12
so that's good. Might as well start talking about those games.
36:16
And ~ sorry MP, we have to start with the Lions and the the Als 'Cause that looked
36:21
Yeah.
36:22
like
36:22
it was gonna be a good game for the Lions for a big chunk of it.
36:28
But
36:28
Yeah, my analysis, I just felt like it was the Western Final all over again.
36:33
So there was about four minutes where it was just scrambling and they were panicking
36:37
about what offensive strategy to use.
36:40
And I thought, OK, we just need to settle down and huddle up and just knock
36:45
off the clock. yeah, it just honestly it was just back to the Western Final
36:49
for me against Saskatchewan. So I was just like,
36:52
wow. ~
36:53
Yeah, I can't disagree with that.
36:55
They they did seem a little uncertain of what they were what they could achieve.
37:01
And the the other thing I'll I'll hand
37:01
Yeah, that's superman and macarons.
37:03
it right back to you, but the other thing one of my top notes on this,
37:06
and it wasn't the only game of this weekend that had it,
37:08
was too many field goals.
37:09
~ yeah, you've got to be able to finish.
37:11
And I know they were on a short week.
37:13
And Horvath had a massive game in Ottawa and I think he was probably overused
37:18
in this one. Maybe they could have put Butler in there and sprinkle him
37:21
a little bit there to help him out.
37:22
Yeah, just interesting. But it's just kind of the way BC's been this year.
37:26
There's a lot of highs but then there's that lowest.
37:28
Very inconsistent team.
37:32
you're right, you mentioned in the Hamilton game and we'll get to that about some
37:36
of it wasn't necessarily the quarterback's fault.
37:38
There were a lot of other stuff going wrong.
37:40
Same thing with B C here. it didn't seem to me like they could adjust once
37:44
the run got stopped. It looked to me like they were prepared to
37:48
run over Montreal and when they couldn't they they had nothing else to move back
37:51
to with it.
37:52
Yeah,
37:53
not a lot of off tackles running as well.
37:56
And I think Jason Moss is Jason Maas the great coach for a reason.
38:00
Like at halftime, he made really good adjustments and we just didn't.
38:03
I mean, Montreal was imploding really in the first first half
38:07
Yeah.
38:08
and they made adjustments. And yeah,
38:10
that's the the game.
38:12
Well they did
38:13
run off tackle once for a seventy seven yard touchdown,
38:16
but unfortunately they got off tackle 'cause Riley Pickett was right at
38:20
the point of attack holding someone.
38:20
Yes. Yes, exactly.
38:21
So and then they just
38:22
No.
38:23
I was like, yes, we
38:24
were just screaming and then I was like,
38:26
no, okay. Screaming for the wrong reason at the end,
38:27
Yes. ~
38:30
yeah.
38:31
Yeah.
38:32
Exactly. And I think the other thing with it was what you said.
38:36
the second half, especially that fourth quarter,
38:38
it looked like the fatigue set in for BC.
38:40
And the five day shortage was just there.
38:45
But but the the but the two of us are dominating here.
38:47
MJ, let's let you get a word in edgewise.
38:49
Okay, that's one. We'll go back to it.
38:50
well, and it's her team. She can't talk.
38:54
I don't have nice things to say.
38:55
I said funny things because I figured you guys would do the analysis and
38:59
I just was like, I'm gonna find fun things to talk about.
39:00
there was like three-down stuffs for everyone.
39:04
There was like goal-line stuffs,
39:05
there was midfield, it
39:06
Okay.
39:07
was like no one could convert on their third down gambles.
39:09
Yes.
39:10
but I don't blame it because that crowd noise was out of control.
39:15
Thank you.
39:16
I you guys, are you happy they ~ banned their air horns?
39:19
Because what what
39:19
Yes.
39:20
happened? Like, are the sirens better?
39:22
Are sirens and voulu's preferable?
39:24
Because I didn't mind the air horns comparatively.
39:27
someone's like, they should mute that other TV.
39:29
I was no, I feel like you should know exactly what the BC Lions are having
39:32
to deal with. You should know exactly how awful it is for them in this moment
39:35
in time. to the point where Andre Pru went and yelled at everyone to wait
39:39
for the whistle because they had called a play in because.
39:40
Yes.
39:41
Because they couldn't hear. it's funny,
39:43
Snarky Andrea, I like that.
39:45
he's wait
39:46
for the whistle is my favorite part of that whole game,
39:48
is him yelling at them. And then it happened in two more games,
39:51
so it wasn't just it wasn't just the
39:51
Yep. There were ongoing
39:54
themes lately.
39:55
Yeah,
39:55
~ Betts and Alexander were beaking at each other the entire game,
40:00
and I just really want to know what would they were saying to each other because
40:03
like Matthew Betts was making hand gestures at Alexander
40:06
and Alexander's like slapping his helm,
40:08
it was spicy,
40:09
Yeah.
40:10
it was spicy there. ~ I like this little rivalry,
40:13
it's good because this is the first
40:14
Yeah.
40:14
time Rourke and Alexander played each other.
40:18
Mm-hmm.
40:18
So I
40:19
I enjoyed that. it's just too bad that like so my husband was watching
40:23
his BC Lions fan and I was we were watching,
40:25
I like, so Montreal receivers are not gonna drop the ball.
40:28
You have to stick everything. And Jackson and Berry Hill did not.
40:33
They had butterfingers and they were not sticking catches,
40:36
and that's a big momentum swing because ~ Sneed
40:39
you
40:40
and Bill Pot aren't going to drop passes.
40:44
Didn't Sneed drop a big one?
40:46
Did he? well it got trapped. It trapped in the end zone.
40:47
catch that other one.
40:49
Yeah, he didn't quite get there.
40:50
Yeah. He made it look like he caught it,
40:50
He made a a heck of an effort for it.
40:53
but Philpot caught an unreal pass,
40:55
Yeah. But
40:56
like
40:57
frankly there's been there's been three teams that I in my mind lately that have
41:02
had multiple drops from multiple receivers.
41:06
And that's so that's BC's I've seen that from.
41:09
I've seen that from Winnipeg and I've seen it from Toronto,
41:12
especially over the last three or four weeks.
41:13
When you start
41:15
When it when a receiver drops a ball that's relatively well placed,
41:18
you put that on him. When you start to see multiple receivers doing that,
41:23
I start to question the quarterback.
41:24
Is it touch? Is it velocity? What is it that's making it so hard for those balls
41:28
to be held onto?
41:30
Maybe, but McKinnis and Katory caught all theirs.
41:33
This game, but I mean
41:33
Yeah, this game. But it was how many games ago
41:37
was it we were talking about the Butterfingers guy on the with his meme after
41:41
the two of them dropped five or six each,
41:41
yeah. Yeah, so I don't know.
41:43
you know? So if that's an exaggeration,
41:44
I don't know. Maybe
41:46
but it just it
41:47
Nathan's just used to flying throwing to flag players.
41:49
There was like little comments about that this week and I was like,
41:51
Yeah. Yeah.
41:51
boy. He's
41:53
still a top quarterback in this league,
41:54
everyone. my other thing is like there was
41:56
so many too many men penalties.
41:59
And I assume this is also because of crowd noise and people could not hear
42:03
to get their player packages out properly.
42:05
And honestly the TSN turning point here and it's just like a dagger
42:08
in the coffin was the Beverett TD interception for TD and that was it.
42:12
Yeah, the PIC 6. Yeah.
42:12
And that just took all the winds out of the BC line sales and they were done.
42:15
Well, that was one of those
42:17
scrambling ones where they didn't huddle up.
42:19
just quickly were doing things.
42:20
It was just chaotic. And I thought,
42:22
no. Yeah. Don't do it.
42:23
Don't do it.
42:25
Yes. Well and
42:26
Yeah.
42:27
and that was one where again, like I've said before,
42:30
you know, there's there's some stuff with Luke Wilson I'm not that impressed with,
42:33
there's some I'm really impressed with.
42:35
He did a fantastic job of explaining what happened there and how
42:39
the coverage that was called allowed Beverett to drop out of his zone
42:43
and undercut that pass.
42:45
So it it just it helps even as long as I've been watching the game,
42:49
it helps me realize again that so much of it isn't just athletic ability.
42:53
It's putting the players in that right position and having the right defense called
42:58
and it certainly worked. But ~ yes,
43:00
for sure. It'll be a good rematch for sure on Saturday.
43:02
Yeah.
43:03
it will. It's I
43:04
dun I still we'll decide when we get to the picks.
43:07
I'll decide who I'm taking. I don't know yet.
43:09
But ~ I will say BC though didn't give up.
43:13
Their offense scored the same number of points that the Montreal offense did.
43:17
The seven point difference was that pick six.
43:18
Yeah.
43:20
And
43:20
Yeah.
43:21
even right down at the end there,
43:23
they had Jackson with right around three minutes to go,
43:27
hell of a catch in the end zone to get them back within well,
43:31
as it turned out, four points after the they did a two point convert.
43:35
And and that was fun too because
43:39
I think they end up mentioning it,
43:41
but I will take a bit of credit.
43:42
I was going over in my head. Ever ev I was saying same as everybody else.
43:45
Well, you're down
43:46
six. Kick one, you still need a touchdown to win if you're down by five.
43:50
They go for the two points, they get it,
43:51
they're down by four. What the good does that give to you?
43:54
Well, I did realize that say there was three minutes to go in the game.
43:58
If Montreal comes back and gets a field goal in,
44:00
that four points now means you can score a touchdown and tie again.
44:04
So it was
44:05
Yep.
44:06
good thinking by the B C coaching.
44:07
If they you know, they they
44:08
Yeah, I was impressed by that too.
44:10
make some silly mistakes, but they've also they're in the games.
44:13
They know what they're doing.
44:15
Anything else? I said it was a clean game by both offensive lines.
44:18
There wasn't a sack in this game.
44:20
No.
44:21
~ other than the penalty that took back the Horvath run,
44:24
there wasn't a lot of penalties.
44:25
And I will also just say that there to me there was one of the better
44:30
ten yard football plays I've ever seen.
44:32
And of course it came from Tyson Philpot,
44:34
who just does amazing things. But they did a behind the line of scrimmage throw
44:39
to him out, I think it was on the right if I remember right.
44:42
And I said, I don't know what you call it other than a naked screen,
44:45
because they just threw
44:45
You
44:46
it to him with no blockers out there.
44:48
And three
44:48
Mm-hmm.
44:48
D Bs and somehow he wove amongst them for ten yards.
44:53
He is amazing. He's just fun to watch.
44:54
Amazing.
44:54
Yeah.
44:55
If he
44:55
Yeah.
44:56
doesn't get a shot down south,
44:57
I don't know what it takes.
45:00
Well, I'd said too though, a lot of this is ~ chemistry with your QB.
45:03
Like you just because you
45:04
Yes. Yeah, it is, but it's also
45:06
are good hands doesn't mean you're gonna have good hands with someone else that
45:09
he and Alexander are it.
45:11
Yeah. And it tells you what the
45:12
And he was injured.
45:14
Yeah, and he's got some injury stuff going on.
45:15
He was injured for first couple of years there or whatever.
45:16
They don't like that. Yeah.
45:19
Yeah, that
45:20
that is true. He's a a full season will be good.
45:23
And i and I mean it it tells you something about what Montreal's got when
45:28
for two weeks in a row they had probably either the best or at very close
45:34
to the best receiver in the league and it wasn't Tyson Philpot.
45:38
He had good games, but
45:39
Yeah. True.
45:41
even when they you slow him down they just they go to Sneed or something else.
45:46
Yeah, they d they're just stacked top to bottom.
45:48
And everyone's bought in.
45:50
I talked this when Oz Davis was on.
45:52
It's interesting that the probably the two top teams in the league right
45:56
now are fairly obviously the Aloettes and the Elk.
45:59
And just given the two stories with them,
46:03
it's really hard f for anybody to be upset about how well they're doing.
46:07
they're just feel good teams.
46:09
Yeah, they're good. Good for the CFL.
46:13
Yeah.
46:13
Yeah.
46:13
We'll see how
46:14
Yeah.
46:14
Alexander does without his twenty three thousand ~ fan crew.
46:19
but like you said, he's beaking he's out there,
46:21
he's good for the team, he's cocky,
46:23
he's rash.
46:23
he
46:23
is perfect for the league. Like he is
46:25
Yeah.
46:26
the worst and the most amazing thing to happen,
46:28
right? Like yeah.
46:28
Yes. Yeah. And
46:30
on the other side of that equation you got Cody who just goes out there
46:33
and every week straps about three tons to his back and decides he's going
46:36
to somehow crawl, scrape, drag it down the field for a victory.
46:41
Yeah. And he and he did did it encountering here again.
46:42
Well he did it in Montreal. Same thing.
46:44
It's That's they got great cups.
46:45
Yeah.
46:47
That
46:48
was that win came from him. You know,
46:51
the yeah, there were lots of other good players doing it,
46:53
but when he needed it
46:55
He you got Anyway, we'll get to that.
46:57
But that was the other thing that I didn't even have this in my notes,
47:00
but you just reminded me. I thought again it shows the competitive
47:03
it was obvious that Alexander is hurt.
47:05
And yet at the end of the game when they needed it,
47:08
somehow he got a ten yard run around the outside and just enough for the first down,
47:14
so. Yeah.
47:15
Don't run.
47:17
But Okay, beating this one to death.
47:20
Shall we talk about
47:20
Yeah.
47:21
the the next one?
47:23
No skip it.
47:24
The not necess
47:27
yeah, not necessarily the best game of the weekend.
47:29
Goofiness a a lot in it, but again,
47:32
my headline, too many field goals,
47:34
too many missed field goals in this case.
47:36
But
47:37
I gotta say, and I'm I everyone knows I bleed green.
47:40
So I've got a skewed view on this.
47:43
But all the way through that game I was never really I didn't feel like
47:47
it was in doubt. Even when it went to overtime at zeros on the clock,
47:51
it just had a feel to me that the riders were in control of it.
47:55
And I don't know if that was, like I said,
47:58
my fandom got ~ sorry. Go ahead.
47:59
even with
48:01
the misfuels.
48:02
Even then, I was getting a little discouraged,
48:04
but like I said, it just it felt to me like they were gonna overcome that.
48:07
there was something about it it felt like it would needed something really
48:11
bad to go wrong for them to lose it.
48:12
And I didn't see that happening.
48:14
Could be wrong, but they did everything right.
48:16
They took Brady out of the game.
48:17
Eight carries for twenty nine yards,
48:19
and yeah, three passes for thirty three yards.
48:20
Did they take him
48:22
out or did Condell not use
48:23
Well
48:24
him?
48:24
Put
48:24
them in, yeah.
48:25
yeah
48:25
good point. Eight carries is not a lot there when you've got a player like Brady
48:30
and you've got to run him hard and that which is why I keep saying I know
48:34
we don't talk fantasy here anymore,
48:36
but when I'm picking my fantasy I just can't to pick Brady Oliveira and
48:39
I with any other O C I'd probably be picking him every week 'cause he is he
48:44
Mm.
48:44
is despite what Horvath has done and despite what other people like Rankin and
48:49
and Mills do out there and whatnot.
48:51
He is the best running back in this league by a wide margin.
48:55
And
48:55
Who had
48:56
twenty seven yards and five minutes left in the third.
48:59
Ridiculous.
48:59
Yeah. Yeah and Yeah.
49:02
Brady
49:03
~
49:03
gets stronger as the game goes on.
49:04
That's his past. Like with 10 minutes to go,
49:07
he just powers through everything.
49:09
He's just into it. He's slapping his head and he's,
49:11
but he's not getting those opportunities at the end of the game.
49:14
So that's disappointing.
49:15
They tricked us and did it last week.
49:17
Yes, they did.
49:19
you know what? I was wrong when I said I was like,
49:21
I'm sorry, Tommy, I was wrong.
49:22
You can't and I was like this week I was like,
49:24
no, you can't.
49:24
Yeah.
49:25
it's ridiculous. And you're right,
49:27
MB, it's he that's the thing is it's not just physical talent.
49:31
It's his attitude and his training,
49:34
wherever, whether it comes from having worked with Andrew Harris or other coaches.
49:38
But he is not going to be denied unless you pile three or four very large people
49:44
right in front of him where he's got nowhere to move.
49:46
He'll squirm, he'll cut, he'll do something to get through,
49:50
and then when you hit him
49:52
He always gets hit forward. You can't
49:56
Mm.
49:56
even even when a linebacker comes and hits him straight on to stop
50:00
him in his tracks, he spins and picks up another two,
50:03
three yards. So how do you not make that the feature of your offense?
50:07
How do you how do you go into that and go,
50:09
Yeah, but we got Tim White?
50:11
Who who
50:12
dropped another critical pass,
50:14
touchdown pass? Well, I was
50:14
Yeah, go figure.
50:16
like, what a surprise. A CFL tradition.
50:19
Yes.
50:19
Wouldn't
50:20
it be easier on Calaris too if Brady was handling the ball more Like
50:23
he wouldn't be running for his
50:24
yeah.
50:24
life so much in every place. But you know,
50:26
He was so mad. Yeah.
50:26
Yes.
50:27
I've got a Winnipeg fans, I'm okay.
50:29
And
50:29
Yeah.
50:30
your point about Saskatchewan,
50:32
they are defending Grey Cup champions.
50:34
And so, yeah, I hear where you're probably coming from is that they just don't
50:38
appear to, they're not going to lose.
50:40
that I won't say that I fet I felt that way every game this season.
50:45
Okay.
50:45
There've been ones they won that I was not sure they were gonna win.
50:49
There've been ones
50:49
Mm-hmm.
50:50
they lost that I would didn't think they would should lose anyway,
50:53
but once the game started. But it was it was very specific to this game.
50:56
And I don't know if it was Labor Day and the crowd
50:59
Labor Day.
51:00
or whatever. It was just it started with Mims fumbled that ball on about the forty.
51:07
And Winnipeg doesn't get a first down out of they only get a field goal.
51:11
And it just it had that feel to it that every time even when Winnipeg
51:15
was ahead for a while, every time that they would do something to look like they
51:20
might be able to pull ahead, Saskatchewan would just come back and and put
51:24
an end to it, one way or another.
51:27
And maybe
51:27
it is Labor Day too as well because all of a sudden the players are
51:30
on a business trip too and they're realizing this is my livelihood.
51:34
am pretty surprised they let the bombers back in the game.
51:37
Like they tied it.
51:39
With zeros on the clock, yep.
51:41
Zero's there's no reason for that.
51:42
With a guy they pulled off the practice roster that week.
51:45
There that
51:45
Yeah.
51:46
shouldn't happen. so that's I if I'm a writer fan,
51:49
I'm bit worried actually. Because the
51:51
Winnipeg no, but Winnipeg didn't play well and they let them back in and they yeah.
51:55
Hale got booed, and then Dusty made a little cheeky s joke and said maybe they're
52:00
saying Rouge, and I was like, That's hilarious.
52:02
Thank you, Dusty. I appreciate that so much.
52:02
Yeah.
52:04
but they need to I know you say that they can't.
52:07
get a different kicker because of the global well they're gonna have
52:10
to do something and they're gonna have to move that roster around and get a new
52:12
Thank
52:14
kicker.
52:15
Yes. Well this
52:16
I don't care. Lewis ward needs to get in there and I don't care who you have
52:19
to move around but someone has to move.
52:22
Well, yeah. Lewis is was released from Ottawa again.
52:24
I don't think he's the answer.
52:25
They do have this Dawson Hauser,
52:27
which I think is a Canadian kicker.
52:29
But they I don't know what will happen,
52:32
but Habakkuk Debaldonado got released from the Red Blacks today.
52:36
Saskatchewan, that gives them their second global for the roster,
52:40
and they could pick a different picker.
52:43
Kicker. Again, can't talk. Different kicker.
52:45
Whether it's this Dawson Hawes or whether they bring back Kim that was they
52:49
had in training camp who was looking not bad.
52:51
But I agree with you there.
52:52
McCaffrey is on the Stampede's practice roster,
52:55
so they might be able to poach him.
52:57
He's a global. Something something has to happen.
52:57
Yeah. Yeah, some something in there with it.
53:00
Yeah.
53:02
This cannot
53:03
continue if you want to get out of the West.
53:05
Yeah, exactly.
53:06
And and again, just to clarify,
53:09
not saying that that that game made me feel a lot better about the riders' chances.
53:14
There was ugly stuff. There were flaws going on with it on both sides of the ball.
53:18
I was strictly talking about the vibe I got from that one game.
53:22
Now they did also they got a safety,
53:25
second game in a second week in a row of safety's been in a Saskatchewan game
53:28
and they got it in the right side this time.
53:30
It wasn't them giving it up.
53:32
Labor Day season, Labor Day, close to it,
53:35
post Labor Day, you start to see people putting stuff in the books that plays
53:40
in there that other teams now are gonna have to worry about if it gets
53:44
to the playoffs So you've seen it's been three games in the last two weeks.
53:48
One was the Riders last week and then Montreal this week and Edmonton.
53:53
Where they're suddenly got an offensive lineman at tight end who they leak
53:56
out and get a pass to. And for two of them it worked extremely well.
54:00
For ~ Edmonton not so much. But you know,
54:03
you're starting to see that. This game,
54:05
you're starting to see them building on that short yardage package with
54:09
~ Tommy Stevens. Because they put him in the game for a short yardage.
54:13
He got it. They left that package in,
54:16
lined him up under center, but the
54:19
The tell on it was Harris didn't go out and l and line up all the way
54:22
out at the wide receiver. He lined up at tight end where there's a
54:24
lot of action going on. And then just as they were getting ready to run the play,
54:29
Stevens went out to the wide out.
54:31
Harris stepped back underneath and hit Del Duncan Busby for a nice deep pass
54:35
downfield when with the compute would have
54:36
How embarrassing
54:37
that they did not throw to Harris for the touchdown.
54:40
Well,
54:41
they're never gonna throw it a Harrison.
54:42
Yeah.
54:44
guys that's a Labor Day play if there was any of her a play to be had.
54:45
Mm-hmm.
54:47
No. No. You do not risk a
54:50
forty year old quarterback when when your backup isn't that great.
54:52
I know.
54:54
And I know.
54:55
I
54:55
want to defend Winnipeg for a little bit.
54:56
They were missing Dempski and he is a player
54:58
Yeah.
54:58
for them that does sweeps. He does,
55:01
catches those hard catches. He's a possession receiver so they did miss
55:05
him but he'll be back for the next game I believe.
55:08
Yeah, I I think so.
55:08
Do you think Singer
55:09
played well enough to earn a roster spot going forward?
55:12
frankly, you played him without Dempski this week,
55:15
so that meant you were on you could play him and stay on ratio because they have
55:20
enough defenders as Canadians.
55:21
So maybe when he may Yeah.
55:22
I don't know, Neld's looking pretty bad rightly recently,
55:25
so that might be a guy who gets sat down.
55:28
Well,
55:29
if I'm Winnipeg if Dembsky comes
55:30
back in I might start I might look at pulling Cobb off the starting roster
55:35
and and put Singer in there. 'Cause he did look good.
55:37
You're right, not
55:38
Yep.
55:38
having Dembsky help didn't help them,
55:40
but the position got them some reasonably good play.
55:44
Yeah, they didn't have Dempski,
55:45
they didn't run Brady, and they still managed to take this game into OT.
55:48
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
55:48
by
55:50
like I don't even understand how it happened.
55:53
Yeah.
55:54
By sheer like ~ Labor Day magic,
55:57
because
55:57
I'm trying not to to dominate here,
55:59
but the writers can just talk for TSN you MJ are always talking about the
56:05
T S the shade that TSN throws.
56:07
Things like, you know, a a quarterback gets pulled from a game and we get
56:11
to see him for the the next thirty minutes on the sideline,
56:14
shot after shot after shot. And I can't even remember who was doing the the
56:19
the color and and play by play in this game but whoever it was when they went into
56:23
overtime there and they mentioned about Harris the way he's playing and they said,
56:28
Harris is basically saying to us,
56:30
Hey T S N don't even bother showing our kicker on the sidelines.
56:33
I got this. We don't need
56:36
Yeah.
56:36
Dear.
56:37
So it's you're not the only one who notices how they do the things.
56:40
credit to the bombers. They played really well.
56:43
They played badly in some places,
56:45
just like the the riders did too.
56:47
I don't know if it was a real Labor Day classic,
56:50
but it was a fun game to watch.
56:51
And the thing that again, as speaking as a rider fan,
56:54
the thing that I liked the the best was when we got into overtime,
56:59
they scored the touchdown, didn't get the two points.
57:02
Then they held Winnipeg out of the end zone and they the field goal
57:06
did them no good. And they showed Harris wh after the play was over and
57:11
it was all done, they showed Harris on the sidelines watching it,
57:14
and you could tell just by what was going on with the crowd and everything what
57:18
was happening with the play, even though you couldn't see it in the shot.
57:21
And he was watching it and you could see the concern on his face and
57:24
And then there was the roar of the stop.
57:26
And his reaction wasn't jumping up and down,
57:28
we're a big win or anything. It was a literally a three inch fist bump.
57:32
Okay. Work to do. Good good last one's out of the way.
57:35
Yeah. One thing I want to mention,
57:35
Okay, so I
57:36
Yeah.
57:38
sorry.
57:39
No, I was just gonna say, now that I'm done dominating,
57:42
go ahead, what what have we missed that you two can talk
57:44
Well,
57:45
about?
57:45
I just loved in the crowd seeing the t-shirts.
57:48
The Saskatchewan marking department is incredible.
57:50
the Tommy Time t-shirts.
57:52
Yeah.
57:52
I I harken back to the flutie flakes,
57:56
but I thought,
57:56
Yes.
57:56
~ Tommy Time, that's awesome. of remember them all.
57:57
Mur morelli macaroni.
58:00
So a Saskatchewan guy, should be able to remember them all.
58:03
Yeah. Yeah,
58:04
the the dress dressler Weston
58:06
Dressler.
58:07
dressler all dress chips, yeah.
58:09
Yeah.
58:09
okay yeah but
58:10
anyways Tommy time so that's the latest
58:14
agree or disagree, I love him.
58:16
It's the kind of football that I like.
58:18
It's I've said a few times in the past few weeks here.
58:20
The Lombardy quote, I love it.
58:22
They know what's coming. The question is can they stop it?
58:26
And that's
58:26
Good point.
58:27
and that's Tommy and that's Xander out in BC right now.
58:30
You know?
58:31
Yeah.
58:32
And there's there's hints of that with Quincy Vaughn in Calgary.
58:37
not so much in Ottawa or Toronto or
58:41
You
58:42
Yeah.
58:43
Or apparently even in in Montreal because they got stuffed at the goal line three
58:47
or four times. Yeah.
58:47
Everyone got stuffed that night.
58:49
That wasn't even Horvath wasn't even making those players.
58:53
Yeah.
58:54
That was the
58:54
sho most shocking part of that actually.
58:57
Yeah. Good job, Nol Thorpe. You wouldn't
58:58
Not that they they stopped
58:59
Nope.
59:00
him from any big long runs, but they weren't even giving him the yard.
59:04
Alright, I'm gonna take us on to the game that ~
59:07
MJ doesn't want talk about. And I don't know that any of us really do,
59:11
because it was it was an ugly game,
59:13
and it was, as you said earlier,
59:15
MP it was self-inflicted. Just too many mistakes,
59:20
too many penalties, too many dumb things they're doing.
59:23
To the point that the the start of the second half,
59:28
they have to kick off to Toronto,
59:30
and they're kicking off from ten yards further back because Keandre Smith gets into
59:34
something with
59:35
one of the Toronto players and slaps him in the head during halftime.
59:39
You know, just
59:41
Not even the worst special teams penalty they took.
59:42
Ugly stuff. No.
59:45
They had took a nine penalties for a hundred and five yards.
59:47
They took an illegal procedure when they're going for it on third and short.
59:51
And well, maybe not more egregious,
59:55
but just pure ridiculous. You had a point where early in the game where they punted
1:00:00
and were going to either get themselves a rouge or get Jennerian Grant stopped
1:00:05
at about the two yard line and give themselves great field position and Taylor to
1:00:10
~ Taylor Tarno Tugnowski Tarnoski can't even say his name.
1:00:14
I'm annoyed with him. He forgot he's playing CFL
1:00:14
88.
1:00:15
Number eighty eight.
1:00:18
and goes flying in and tries to jump into the end zone,
1:00:21
catch the ball in the air, and flip it back out where they can if you're playing
1:00:25
NFL rules, you can tap
1:00:26
Yeah.
1:00:26
it dead. And as a result of that,
1:00:28
instead of getting the ball at the one or two yard line,
1:00:31
or at the forty with a point, Toronto gets it at the fifty
1:00:34
Fifty five yard line.
1:00:35
five yard line. A fifty five yard penalty.
1:00:39
I'm gonna stop now and let you go rant for a bit.
1:00:41
Well that's just how it went, wasn't it?
1:00:43
That's just how the whole game went.
1:00:47
We don't have a quarterback. Our O line is garbage.
1:00:51
Again, I was watching bad snaps all game and not just to Ford,
1:00:56
but also to Frost. They by the time they're corraling that ball,
1:00:59
it's too late. Yeah. Just just
1:01:03
Just bad. Stupid penalties, undisciplined.
1:01:06
Toronto didn't play great, but they played better.
1:01:11
And yeah, Kelly had all the time in the world to throw,
1:01:15
so he was able to make plays. And Chad says he wants the Labor Day game
1:01:19
in Toronto next year, and he can just go pound sand.
1:01:22
Mm. Good point. Traditions are traditions.
1:01:26
What is
1:01:26
wrong with you? Like say things like that.
1:01:30
Anyway, if you got wanted to be get me upset,
1:01:32
like I guess like congratulations.
1:01:34
I was ups I was already upset though.
1:01:36
You didn't need to like pile on.
1:01:37
Well, I will say
1:01:38
this though. Of the things Chad Kelly has said that gets me annoyed,
1:01:42
that's down
1:01:43
What?
1:01:44
about two thousand and five
1:01:45
Ha ha.
1:01:46
'cause there's so much more easy to get over.
1:01:50
Anyway, go ahead.
1:01:52
So.
1:01:52
No, that
1:01:52
was just yeah, it was just it was the I just yeah,
1:01:54
as I said, it was the concussion bowl.
1:01:55
There was lots of hard hits, there was lots of nasty hits,
1:01:58
there was lots of things that should not have happened.
1:02:01
This the refs had their work cut out for them and it's just sloppy,
1:02:06
sloppy play at home, which is too bad because it was sold out.
1:02:09
another another syllable.
1:02:09
So does that mean that Chad
1:02:10
Kelly is staying in Toronto then?
1:02:12
Because he set the game
1:02:12
That's what I said. I was like,
1:02:14
~
1:02:15
~
1:02:15
there in
1:02:15
Toronto. So I don't know.
1:02:17
I wouldn't count on anything, everyone's saying Ottawa will poach him,
1:02:20
but the way Ottawa's playing, he may not have any interest in it.
1:02:23
And I'm sure Toronto will pay to keep him.
1:02:25
They've they've showed that they certainly like having him on there.
1:02:28
Now, the other thing was Wheatfell like you said,
1:02:31
he may have been concussed. If he wasn't concussed,
1:02:34
he was beaten to a pulp and
1:02:36
They
1:02:37
gave him a hospital pass at the end of the game for no reason.
1:02:40
just yeah, they and
1:02:42
Over the middle, no time.
1:02:45
if he's playing with a concussion,
1:02:46
I hate it. If he's out there just competing on his own and saying
1:02:49
I'm playing through all of this hurt and everything,
1:02:51
then you gotta give him full credit for that 'cause he did not give up.
1:02:55
He looked like he could barely s stand and yet he was out there playing.
1:02:57
when the game
1:02:58
is this like and it doesn't seem out of hand,
1:03:01
but it was out of hand.
1:03:02
Yeah.
1:03:03
Do you don't you don't need your star players like look what happened to Emless.
1:03:07
You don't need your star player playing in the last dirty three,
1:03:10
four minutes of a game that is well out of hand.
1:03:13
That is just I don't care how much they want to be on the field.
1:03:15
Too bad. Sit down. We need you the rest of the season.
1:03:16
Yeah. No, I coach from a coaching point of view,
1:03:19
I
1:03:19
agree with you completely. From a player point of view,
1:03:22
when I was coaching we talked about the difference between being hurt
1:03:25
and being injured. If you're injured,
1:03:27
you definitely you don't want to be out there playing,
1:03:29
and injured means you're gonna make something worse by trying to play through it.
1:03:33
If you're hurt, if you're in pain but it's not gonna get any worse,
1:03:36
then
1:03:38
The experience has always been you try and gut through it.
1:03:41
And I give him full credit for that.
1:03:42
That's what I saw him trying to do.
1:03:44
Rising above the the pain of where he was at.
1:03:46
Now that's like I say, doesn't say anything about should he have been
1:03:49
in there or not. But just as a player,
1:03:51
if you're asked to go in, I appreciate Putting everything you've
1:03:54
I just
1:03:54
got into it.
1:03:55
think Scott's completely lost the plot with this team.
1:03:57
It's just it's off the rails. It's off the rails.
1:03:58
Yeah, I desperation is
1:04:00
I think the
1:04:01
players like are the players running the show here?
1:04:03
What's going on? Like, I just yeah,
1:04:06
it's bad. It's bad top to bottom here.
1:04:08
And like they didn't even get close enough to do a field goal attempt.
1:04:11
Like it.
1:04:11
No. And the thing is,
1:04:14
he'll come back next year and they'll have Bo back or they won't,
1:04:17
depending on if Bo decides he's got any more football in him.
1:04:20
But he'll come back. And the thing is,
1:04:22
even if they have Bo, has he done too much damage this year with just team morale
1:04:27
and attitude he's so indecisive.
1:04:29
He doesn't look like he knows what he's doing out there.
1:04:32
He's all over the place in what he's talking about.
1:04:36
Are you a good coach if you can only coach an MOP quarterback who basically runs
1:04:40
his own program?
1:04:40
Yeah. Yes.
1:04:42
And I mean I feel for him, he gets Trey hurt,
1:04:44
so y you can't put Trey back in.
1:04:46
He's saying we do not throw interceptions,
1:04:48
we do not turn over the ball, and he puts Frost in and Frost does his level best
1:04:53
to throw an interception on his first play.
1:04:54
Maha
1:04:55
And the D B lets him down by
1:04:55
Yeah.
1:04:56
dropping it. So he comes back two plays later and throws one.
1:04:59
You know.
1:04:59
That was one.
1:04:59
Yeah.
1:05:00
at that point it doesn't look good like you're gonna win.
1:05:03
And if you want to send that message of
1:05:04
We don't have interceptions. Why you don't haven't you popped over
1:05:07
to Dallagala right away?
1:05:09
Yeah.
1:05:09
I mean, Trey, as soon as he got any kind of a turnover,
1:05:11
you're out of here. Regardless of who else we've got behind you.
1:05:14
He sat beau for an interception before.
1:05:15
Yeah. ~
1:05:16
Like it's yeah.
1:05:17
you
1:05:18
I'm being too na snarky. Sorry,
1:05:20
No, not when it's about not when it's about Scott
1:05:20
MP you you came in on a show when you when you caught me in my grumpy
1:05:24
old man mood. Even after that how much I
1:05:26
you
1:05:27
enjoyed the riders on Labor Day,
1:05:29
I appear to be the grumpy man.
1:05:30
It may be
1:05:33
Not for nothing, but I I'm I'll say it may be because I'm a l I'm
1:05:36
a lot sleep deprived. I I have sleep apnea,
1:05:39
which means I got this snorkel I've got to put on my face that mak lets
1:05:43
me breathe at night. And apparently I've become addicted to breathing 'cause
1:05:46
I have to go in for another sleep study tomorrow night.
1:05:49
And they said, to get the best results,
1:05:51
try not to l use your your CPAP machine for three nights.
1:05:55
Just sleep normally I've had about
1:05:57
twenty minutes of sleep for the last two nights.
1:06:00
~ yeah that's tough. Well
1:06:01
So Yeah.
1:06:03
I'll just add to the just finish up that game there.
1:06:06
So Hamilts now is pretty excited at the first and I thought wow this is going
1:06:10
to be great. I mean I'm excited for Trey and all this and then the penalties
1:06:14
and I'm like these guys won't recover from this and they just went
1:06:18
it just spiraled out of control after that and all that you've touched on
1:06:21
MJ I just yeah totally.
1:06:23
I would say that there are probably at l at least four quarterbacks
1:06:29
in this league that you could take over and put in Hamilton right
1:06:33
now and it wouldn't make them a winning team.
1:06:35
'Cause it's not just all at quarterback and it's not just
1:06:38
the inexperienced at quarterback.
1:06:40
It is all the other stupid lack of focus,
1:06:43
lack of attention, penalties just they're spiraling.
1:06:47
Dennis McKnight
1:06:48
needs to come back and do special teams because BC's special teams
1:06:51
is much more improved with him there.
1:06:54
And ours is a train wreck now.
1:06:56
Yeah.
1:06:56
Well, once things start to tumble,
1:06:59
it's it's contagious.
1:07:00
I asked him, like, is
1:07:01
it worse with Bob Dice there or like what what are we doing here?
1:07:05
I don't know. Because isn't he the special teams coordinator as well?
1:07:08
As assistant coach. I just
1:07:10
Yeah.
1:07:10
don't think what Ternowski was thinking.
1:07:12
I sorry, I'm just so still so upset about that.
1:07:15
Yes!
1:07:15
Well, isn't that on the coach?
1:07:17
Like, you to have your
1:07:18
guys ready. I, yeah.
1:07:19
Yeah. Yeah.
1:07:22
I was embarrassed, actually.
1:07:24
It was
1:07:24
very embarrassing. I like, what is you sh th the my face in real time
1:07:28
was like I like what what what are you doing?
1:07:30
Why would you do that? Like, no,
1:07:32
Yeah.
1:07:32
so don't touch it. Like no. Fifty
1:07:34
Yeah. I I agree well
1:07:36
hey hey, I mean, again, this is slipping back again,
1:07:39
but when you said that it made me realize the the bombers and the
1:07:44
the riders ended up tied at the end of the game with zeros on the clock.
1:07:48
And yeah, the riders should have had six points because they missed two field goals,
1:07:54
which would have made that not a tie.
1:07:56
On the other hand, they got one point out of it because Vavil tried to
1:08:02
field the ball deep in the end zone and couldn't and gave them a rouge.
1:08:05
When he should have just let it go and get the ball at the forty.
1:08:09
So yeah, there's there's a lot of split second decisions to make out there
1:08:13
and some people don't do it so well.
1:08:16
feel like he's really dropped off on his returns this year.
1:08:19
Yeah. Well don't forget he's playing D now too.
1:08:19
Is it because they're making him play D
1:08:21
V? Like is it just like the split duties like too much or what's going on?
1:08:25
Yeah. I think maybe not
1:08:27
as much jump in the step
1:08:28
I think it's because he's playing that other position on defense.
1:08:31
I think
1:08:32
Yeah.
1:08:32
that's cut into it for sure.
1:08:34
All right. But anyway, that's digressing back to another game.
1:08:37
Let's move forward. Edmonton goes to Calgary
1:08:39
Thank you.
1:08:39
Yeah.
1:08:41
and wins thirty eight twenty-eight.
1:08:42
And the Elks have played the most a pr impressive game of football you'll see.
1:08:48
Unfortunately it's been spread over
1:08:49
the last two games they played.
1:08:51
'Cause for the second week in a row they just decided to sleep through
1:08:54
the first half.
1:08:56
Mm.
1:08:57
I don't know if it was Rust coming off the bye,
1:08:59
what it was, but it was it was not a pretty game.
1:09:03
It looked like the stamp should have walked away with this.
1:09:06
They were up by what was it? I think eighteen points at one point
1:09:09
in the second half. But just couldn't seal it away and like I said,
1:09:15
Cody finds a way.
1:09:18
Any thoughts?
1:09:19
this is your second
1:09:20
you
1:09:20
team? Come on.
1:09:21
Yeah, the Elks have definitely learned how to win.
1:09:24
the culture has changed there and it's impressive what Mark Killam has done
1:09:28
and the organization to get to this point.
1:09:30
And man, I, yeah, I see Cody,
1:09:34
I don't know, I think the Elks will be right now.
1:09:37
I'm thinking they might be the ones that represent the West.
1:09:39
I'm just saying that. I know you're a Saskatchewan fan,
1:09:41
but Cody is amazing and he will do whatever he will run.
1:09:45
He will, he'll go through a wall to do this for the team and the team seems
1:09:48
to know that and they rally around him.
1:09:50
So I'm just putting
1:09:51
that out there but...
1:09:53
Hey? I don't disagree with you.
1:09:54
At at this point, probably BC and Winnipeg will find a way into
1:09:58
the playoffs somehow. And once you get into the playoffs,
1:10:02
anything can happen. One will be going through the east,
1:10:04
one will be going through the west.
1:10:05
but they are good enough teams that they put it together for a game or two,
1:10:09
they could come out of the West.
1:10:11
But I honestly believe that.
1:10:14
If you're putting money on it,
1:10:15
it's either the elk or the the riders.
1:10:18
And I can't disagree with you.
1:10:20
sometimes you get a team of destiny.
1:10:22
I could name you two or three things that I favor with the elk over the riders.
1:10:26
The thing that I see in the riders favor is the fact that they won a Grey
1:10:30
Cup last year.
1:10:31
And that does count for something in the experience The Elk have looked really good
1:10:35
this season and they have not given up on anything and they fought right till
1:10:39
the very end. But there have been a couple of times in bigger games where some
1:10:42
of their players look kinda tight.
1:10:44
So we'll see.
1:10:46
They're lucky Grey Cup's not gonna be in Montreal.
1:10:48
Yes.
1:10:50
That's true. It'll be an an an easier
1:10:50
No, absolutely.
1:10:52
trip for ~ for whoever comes out of the West.
1:10:56
Yeah. yeah, they only needed to play one quarter to win this game.
1:10:58
They played one quarter of football,
1:11:01
basically, in the fourth. They scored twenty-four points in the fourth,
1:11:04
and that's all they needed. they've sacked VA four times.
1:11:08
Yeah,
1:11:08
the O line needs some help on Calgary.
1:11:10
That O
1:11:10
Wow.
1:11:11
line and then you know and then VA got hit in the helmet on a slide
1:11:15
and that actually got called. I think that's the first time that he's been
1:11:19
hit in the head that that's been called this year on a slide.
1:11:21
but yeah, four sacks, that O line.
1:11:22
That was about as egregious as you could get it on that one,
1:11:25
yeah.
1:11:26
lots of scrambling. He was always scrambling and it's like wow you guys.
1:11:29
Yeah.
1:11:30
So I mean everyone's like, he looked terrible,
1:11:32
he looked terrible. It's like he had no time to do anything.
1:11:36
time. ~ he looked a little yeah.
1:11:38
and he did get some yardage. He got some.
1:11:40
Yeah.
1:11:41
Mind you, Cody was the leading rusher in the game again.
1:11:44
Seventy eight
1:11:44
Yeah, Cody had
1:11:45
seventy six yards of rushing and rank and ha ~ And Rankin
1:11:47
I had seventy eight, one of us is wrong.
1:11:50
well, I got mine from the T S N website.
1:11:52
Where did you get yours?
1:11:53
Well, I d I
1:11:53
I got mine from the C FL website,
1:11:55
but I had to transpose it from there to my notes,
1:11:57
so it could easily be wrong.
1:11:58
yeah, but yeah.
1:12:00
But ~ Rankin had forty eight yards rushing.
1:12:03
Yes. He had Yes.
1:12:03
And actually he got benched for a while.
1:12:06
Like the Powell was running and Rankin was sitting.
1:12:09
Yes. ~
1:12:11
I think so. I don't know.
1:12:11
But was that a plan to bring him in at the end?
1:12:13
I
1:12:14
see Mark as, don't
1:12:14
I I yeah.
1:12:16
know.
1:12:16
I know the fresh legs help, but but
1:12:16
Because Leeks injured.
1:12:19
up till that point at the end,
1:12:22
which was there and there's some irony to the fact that that Calgary beat Hamilton
1:12:27
on a long run by Mills right at the end of the game
1:12:28
Yeah.
1:12:29
and now they all do that to them But up until that point when he broke
1:12:33
off that fifty yarder, he had what did I have marked down here?
1:12:36
They'd given him four carries and he had minus one yards.
1:12:40
So
1:12:40
Yeah, just change
1:12:41
it up. But the tackling on that run was horrific.
1:12:45
There was four Calgary defenders that let him go through there and I'm like,
1:12:48
wow.
1:12:49
I thought
1:12:49
they had a good defense. I was led to believe.
1:12:51
I thought so too, but it it
1:12:53
Well,
1:12:53
it says something about Rankin
1:12:54
Claire, yeah.
1:12:55
He's done that to several defenses in the CFL
1:12:58
That's true.
1:12:59
now. If you stop him at the line of scrimmage or near it,
1:13:03
you can hold him down. Once he gets into running in the secondary,
1:13:07
he's run through the Montreal secondary,
1:13:10
he's run through the the Calgary secondary,
1:13:12
he's run through the Winnipeg secondary,
1:13:13
Hamilton secondary.
1:13:14
and I mean literally
1:13:15
just like he's running a a slalom course around pylons where they can't touch him.
1:13:21
Yeah.
1:13:21
Calgary's
1:13:21
D line is stellar though. Clarence Hicks,
1:13:23
Yeah.
1:13:23
~ Clarence Hicks.
1:13:24
he reminds me of Cameron
1:13:26
Wake, BC Lions like so quick and just right in there.
1:13:29
So they do have a good D line.
1:13:31
I think the TSN turning point was when Barnes had that big catch and was stripped.
1:13:35
It was in that fumble and then so that just Calgary's drive was over and then
1:13:40
it got turned. It's just like wow.
1:13:42
So Calgary was in the game like you say MJ until the fourth and then
1:13:48
Just got run over. my favorite parts of this,
1:13:51
they're like they're not football related,
1:13:52
but like Johnson after his interception they had put a close-up of him
1:13:56
on the bench and he just like thanks Cody.
1:13:58
So on our Instagram post about the win,
1:14:01
I just put the the final score and I put thanks Cody
1:14:06
You
1:14:07
Johnson. Hey Johnson.
1:14:07
I like it. I like it.
1:14:11
and then my favorite was after the game where someone ~ was trying
1:14:14
to interview and somebody behind them just yelled it wasn't sexy,
1:14:17
but it's a win and that's about it.
1:14:19
And that's how
1:14:19
Yeah, yeah.
1:14:20
this team's gonna the Elks are doing it.
1:14:22
They're winning games, they have no business winning.
1:14:25
And that it doesn't matter
1:14:25
Yeah. No.
1:14:27
how you win, that's a win in the win like it's a and then how happy
1:14:30
for Mark Killum to go in there to the team that basically fired him
1:14:33
Mm-hmm.
1:14:33
and be like
1:14:34
Yeah.
1:14:35
the coups, the coups.
1:14:37
the big guy now. I could
1:14:38
Yeah, it's
1:14:39
be head coaching your team, but no.
1:14:41
we were in about the last three minutes of that game and I was I forget what exactly
1:14:46
I was saying something about Killam and and the goddess said to me,
1:14:50
You said two years ago when he signed,
1:14:52
he's gonna do great things with Edmonton.
1:14:53
I didn't remember saying that,
1:14:55
but I can believe it. It's it's yeah,
1:14:56
you're like, I'll take that compliment.
1:14:57
Yeah.
1:14:57
he's but
1:14:57
Thank you. Very wise.
1:15:00
No
1:15:00
extra points for winning pretty,
1:15:02
but yeah, it was ugly. Hundred and eighty one passing yards from Cody,
1:15:05
two hundred and fourteen from VA.
1:15:07
The run games were semi nonexistent,
1:15:11
although Howard was it? I forget the the the kid they put in for punt returns
1:15:16
who could not catch a punt, but turned out to be a reasonably good running back
1:15:20
for Edmonton got them some yards.
1:15:22
But again, Cody seventy eight yards was the the leading rusher on both teams.
1:15:27
This happened last year too, where he was the leading rusher for
1:15:30
the Elks for several games. Yeah.
1:15:31
Yeah. And and you know, you said Calgary
1:15:34
was in the late I believe it must have been tied with like five minutes left
1:15:38
to go when Calgary punted and should have held Edmonton deep in their
1:15:42
own zone and they managed to return it to the Calgary fifty,
1:15:46
about a forty five yard punt return,
1:15:48
and then the next play Rankin and took it in.
1:15:50
And that gave that put them up by seven.
1:15:53
And then the ten points came when
1:15:56
after Calgary turned over the ball on downs at their own three yard line because
1:16:00
they couldn't move it and that gave up an extra seven points,
1:16:03
which well, you know, you're it's gonna it's they only play twice this year,
1:16:06
so total points will matter. You certainly got no one should complain about them
1:16:10
taking that touchdown. But it was a a closer game and I don't know
1:16:14
if Calgary fans can take any comfort from that or not.
1:16:17
Mr. Stiegel on T S N I'll keep saying there's no moral victories,
1:16:20
so I don't know.
1:16:22
Sure.
1:16:24
A good yak receiver for Edmonton Robichet.
1:16:28
Is that the one he used to play for Saskatchewan?
1:16:29
R Ribicelli,
1:16:30
Robostelli, yeah.
1:16:30
Yeah, he
1:16:31
actually had some good yak yards there.
1:16:34
Yeah, he he did well with Saskatchewan last year.
1:16:37
Between his own injuries and the loading that they had on the receiving core,
1:16:42
it was he didn't get into play quite as much.
1:16:44
But he is a heck of a receiver and he's non traditional route.
1:16:47
he didn't go through high school and college football.
1:16:50
He played flag football up until he was
1:16:54
I think at least twenty and someone said,
1:16:56
You're so good at this you should go play tackle ball and he went and played
1:17:00
a year of college tackle and then moved on to the pros.
1:17:03
So that's an interesting little story.
1:17:05
That's where the yak yards come in,
1:17:07
flag football.
1:17:07
Yeah.
1:17:08
You're trying to avoid getting that flag pulled,
1:17:11
so that's good.
1:17:12
definitely, yeah. Glad to see that talent.
1:17:15
anything else here? My voice is going,
1:17:18
I'm running out of steam. I have to go not sleep for another night.
1:17:22
I just like ~ would ~ Dave Dickinson please throw to Alfred more so I don't have
1:17:26
to hear about it all game.
1:17:28
Okay.
1:17:29
Just just you know, a suggestion for next week.
1:17:33
All right. Coaching tips from MJ.
1:17:36
So I don't have to pff it's tough.
1:17:38
Well, maybe if. ~
1:17:39
It's tough when
1:17:40
your your your favorite receiver only gets one pass throw in their way.
1:17:43
It's tough Slettin.
1:17:43
Yes.
1:17:44
Maybe if VA
1:17:45
had more time, he'd have a chance to look for all receivers.
1:17:48
Yeah, you were yeah, that's true.
1:17:50
Possible
1:17:50
too. But yes, I g I forgot that there is a a huge Moose's loose fan living
1:17:55
in your house, so I can imagine
1:17:55
Yes, yes.
1:17:57
there was some frustration going on.
1:17:59
Especially
1:17:59
Yeah.
1:18:01
since since the fan is still at that young age where this really matters.
1:18:04
Yeah.
1:18:05
It f it mattered a lot. It
1:18:07
mattered a lot.
1:18:09
Okay, so after that ~ interesting set of mashups on the weekend,
1:18:15
must have been a little bit of fun doing some power rankings,
1:18:18
MJ. What you got for us?
1:18:19
Do you see like
1:18:20
~ I have things like crossdote written out,
1:18:23
crossed out written up. Like I just I changed my mind looks like four times
1:18:28
and I'm still not sold. So I I'm open to being swayed for the final rankings.
1:18:33
alright, power rankings. I have the alouettes at number one,
1:18:37
~ number two elks. They won even though they only played one quarter of football.
1:18:42
Three is the Lions, so they look they it was close.
1:18:45
It was close there. I think they're they're very close to putting it all together.
1:18:49
Four is the riders. Kicking remains a massive issue.
1:18:54
five is the Argos, they they put it together.
1:18:57
Six is the Bombers, that wasn't great.
1:19:00
Stamps, seven, that wasn't great.
1:19:03
Tycats, eight, that was terrible.
1:19:06
Red Blacks stay at nine because they were on the bye.
1:19:09
And you can't move down during a bye.
1:19:11
No, you can't be relegated during a bye.
1:19:14
Yeah I don't envy ya. It there's an awful lot
1:19:20
to factor in and really there's
1:19:24
Well a as good as Montreal has played.
1:19:28
They're they've shown weakness at times too.
1:19:31
So yeah, they deserve to be at the top of the standings,
1:19:35
but they are the best team in the league and they have shown weakness there.
1:19:38
So it just that tells you that the other eight teams all are have various things
1:19:43
which could count against them and various good things for them.
1:19:47
So it's awful hard to pick them out this week.
1:19:49
I'm not gonna criticize.
1:19:50
Yeah, I had the elks ~ s
1:19:51
sitting at first, but then I like,
1:19:53
They played one quarter of football.
1:19:54
So no.
1:19:55
Yeah.
1:19:56
Flip that back around.
1:19:57
Yeah.
1:19:57
And then I had the ~ Argos ahead of the riders and then I thought about it
1:20:01
and I was like, nah, they the Tadcats put up very bad showing,
1:20:05
so I flipped those back around,
1:20:06
but
1:20:06
Yeah.
1:20:07
But the Elks played in rain, so that may have been a factor.
1:20:11
Montreal was at home and they were playing in beautiful weather.
1:20:15
So that could be a factor too.
1:20:16
I had the Elks number one.
1:20:19
I can be persuaded to put them back up there.
1:20:21
I am worried that Alexander is injured,
1:20:23
and I am never worried about Cody being injured.
1:20:28
Yeah.
1:20:29
And now Theis is on the six game injured list.
1:20:32
Yes.
1:20:34
Yeah, I will put the Elks back at the top.
1:20:36
You're right. Let me just cross
1:20:37
Yeah. Yeah.
1:20:38
it out for the fifth time.
1:20:40
And and the thing about Cody is he's he's injured.
1:20:42
He but he's play Cody has been injured since play played Pop Warner.
1:20:46
The way he plays, he's always injured and somehow just plays through it.
1:20:50
They don't people complain
1:20:51
Yeah.
1:20:51
about the the last well, the twenty twenty nineteen and then what was it,
1:20:57
twenty twenty one his last season since Saskatchewan.
1:21:00
And saying, well, he started out so good looking like he was gonna especially twenty
1:21:04
eighteen, twenty nineteen played well.
1:21:05
Twenty twenty one and not so much.
1:21:07
He was playing with basically no oblique muscles left at all.
1:21:11
They were ripped out the entire season and they just left him in there
1:21:14
to keep s flinging slinging it.
1:21:15
And he wasn't the worst quarterback by any means.
1:21:18
So yeah, full full credit to to Cody.
1:21:21
Alrighty then, so injury reports.
1:21:24
We'll talk about that before we make our picks for the game.
1:21:27
It's ~ not a lot to report. Otta most of the teams haven't reported,
1:21:32
even though they all play on Sunday or Saturday.
1:21:35
The it's the quad header this this week,
1:21:38
starting at ten in the morning BC time and going till ten at night,
1:21:43
I guess. so anyway, Ottawa sa had
1:21:45
Revious has did not participate with a hamstring,
1:21:48
and that will hurt them if he is out,
1:21:49
because he is one of the defenders that has Sean for them.
1:21:52
the Aloettes had a couple of DBs,
1:21:56
Najee Murray and Wes Sutton, and then Collander on the O-line were
1:21:59
all did not participate. And in BC,
1:22:02
we're who were the only other ones to report,
1:22:04
Malden was did not participate.
1:22:06
So will he be back in helping this week?
1:22:08
I don't know. But they had they they did have TJ Lee.
1:22:11
Peters, on limited and then on their special teams.
1:22:14
Lawrence Wood, the third that they brought in for returns was limited,
1:22:18
and Myers, who has been keeping them in games with his hundred yard punts,
1:22:22
it seems like I don't know that he's punted for less than fifty yards
1:22:25
yet this season, so if he's out that'll hurt.
1:22:28
And with that knowledge now we have to make our picks.
1:22:31
I know it's still four days till the game.
1:22:34
Things could change, but we have to declare here.
1:22:38
It's a requirement, MP I don't know if we've if ~ if you were told this when
1:22:42
we recruited you, but you gotta put your your picks on the line.
1:22:47
So we'll
1:22:48
You're picking
1:22:48
for my sister, so no pressure.
1:22:50
Take all the all the glory when you sweep the board.
1:22:50
Yeah, so we'll we'll let you start The first game,
1:22:51
Okay.
1:22:55
Ottawa going to Toronto, what do you think?
1:22:59
I have Toronto. just, sentimental favour would be,
1:23:02
~ I wish Ottawa would get a win,
1:23:04
but I just don't think it's going to happen.
1:23:05
So I picked Toronto there.
1:23:08
I will also go with Toronto there.
1:23:10
They play better at home than away.
1:23:11
that's still true of them. And they're playing Ottawa.
1:23:14
So, you know, Ottawa's gotta win a g well,
1:23:16
maybe they don't got to. Ottawa probably will win a game at some point
1:23:19
in the season, but I don't see it being this one.
1:23:21
So yeah, Toronto for me.
1:23:24
want nothing more than the Red Blocks to win this game,
1:23:28
and I really hope they do.
1:23:29
Likewise
1:23:29
Honestly nothing would make me happier after especially after this weekend,
1:23:34
but I think it's gonna be Toronto.
1:23:35
they know what they're playing really good at home.
1:23:38
Yes. Yeah, you can put you can put your wishful glasses on for a little
1:23:43
bit with some football games, but some are just No.
1:23:46
I hope I am proven wrong and that the red blacks run the table.
1:23:46
Me too. I hope that this game is the equivalent of
1:23:50
Please.
1:23:52
the Winnipeg Montreal game from two weeks ago.
1:23:54
That everybody
1:23:55
Yes.
1:23:56
comes out going, Well Hell, how did that happen?
1:23:58
Yeah.
1:24:00
Thank
1:24:00
Okay.
1:24:01
next one. The rematch. Saskatchewan at Winnipeg.
1:24:04
What do you think, MJ?
1:24:07
It's the banjo bowl, I'm taking the bombers.
1:24:10
J MB?
1:24:12
I actually think Saskatchewan and I don't want it to be
1:24:15
but I'm believing Saskatchewan unless Winnipeg runs more I
1:24:19
see Saskatchewan winning this one.
1:24:21
The the home crowd should help Winnipeg with their run game.
1:24:25
That it is a little bit harder in a in a really loud,
1:24:28
hostile stadium to to get plays off.
1:24:31
But as I said earlier, if there's a chance,
1:24:33
unless it's it's fairly obvious that the riders are overmatched,
1:24:36
I'm just gonna keep picking them the rest of the season 'cause I'm a rider fan.
1:24:39
So yeah, riders. I don't know that I go in with high confidence.
1:24:43
It it's really a fifty fifty kind of game coming into it.
1:24:47
Yeah,
1:24:48
The bombers could bombers could easily
1:24:49
agree.
1:24:50
win this by twenty eight points.
1:24:51
You know, if things just go wrong.
1:24:53
We've seen that happen before,
1:24:54
but we'll see. So Calgary going back to Edmonton.
1:24:59
I will jump in first and say even though it was close right to the end,
1:25:04
I think we saw the best Calgary could play against Edmonton.
1:25:11
And we saw Edmonton take the better majority of a game off against Calgary
1:25:15
and still win it. So I'm going Edmonton.
1:25:17
How about you, MP?
1:25:18
I'm picking Edmonton as well. I'd like to Calgary's O-line be a little more stellar,
1:25:23
but ~ I think Edmonton will take it at home.
1:25:27
gonna be at this game. Yeah
1:25:28
That's right.
1:25:29
good. Send us pictures.
1:25:31
Alfred scores a touchdown right in front of my kid.
1:25:33
Please. But you're but
1:25:34
Yes.
1:25:36
but don't win. The elks are gonna win.
1:25:39
There you go.
1:25:40
Okay.
1:25:41
I just don't see them putting it together.
1:25:43
I mean, sometimes VA will have in a brilliant game,
1:25:45
but I mean, where's GT to tell me that VA's in his head now and
1:25:49
the O-line is playing terrible?
1:25:50
And I just don't see them overcoming that.
1:25:53
It's gonna be a rocking game, I think.
1:25:53
No. I don't either. Yeah.
1:25:57
It's gonna be fun.
1:25:57
Looking forward to
1:25:58
it.
1:25:58
I'm really looking forward to it.
1:25:59
yeah. It it
1:25:59
We picked a good one. It was between
1:26:01
this and the and the Tie Cats game and I was like,
1:26:03
I don't wanna watch the Tie Cats.
1:26:04
Ha ha.
1:26:05
Let's go to the Calgary game.
1:26:07
But then I'll be
1:26:07
watching the Montreal BC game on my little phone on the way home.
1:26:11
What what Okay,
1:26:12
Okay.
1:26:12
so this is the thing. We're going to this game.
1:26:14
I d
1:26:15
There's four games on.
1:26:16
I'll I will maybe see two games.
1:26:18
Yeah.
1:26:19
I'll maybe get it catch like the end of the Montreal BC game by the time
1:26:22
we get home.
1:26:25
the quad weekend or quad Saturday makes it tough,
1:26:27
yeah.
1:26:28
it does to catch them all.
1:26:28
Yeah. Yeah.
1:26:31
But we
1:26:31
do have to talk about that last game.
1:26:33
And since there's so much BC memorabilia behind you,
1:26:37
MP we'll let you go first. What what do you think?
1:26:39
Are they gonna pull it out?
1:26:39
~
1:26:40
Yeah, BC is going to really perform.
1:26:43
They're at home. They'll have a good crowd.
1:26:45
And I honestly think it's going to be one of their best games of the year.
1:26:48
That's how I see it.
1:26:50
MJ.
1:26:52
~ I think Nathan's pulling a rabbit out of his hat on this game.
1:26:55
Montreal's on the long shift in the late
1:26:59
Yeah.
1:26:59
They're they're playing late in BC.
1:27:01
I think, yeah, BC's gonna be really upset with how that went.
1:27:05
And it they were close until it wasn't.
1:27:09
Like I mean, they they have a few things to clean up and I your your injury report
1:27:13
did concern me. But I think ~ on these games they're giving people some extra rest
1:27:18
days, especially since they were out there on a long week.
1:27:21
~ but yeah,
1:27:22
Yeah.
1:27:22
Mm-hmm.
1:27:22
I'll take I'll still take the Lions.
1:27:24
Yes.
1:27:25
And
1:27:25
And if
1:27:25
they don't win this game, this will be this is a good big statement game for them.
1:27:28
Like they need to win this game.
1:27:29
Yeah. Yeah,
1:27:30
Yes,
1:27:30
yes, I agree.
1:27:30
if they wanna actually
1:27:31
make noise, this is probably a must
1:27:34
Yep.
1:27:34
win wi with them and I I
1:27:35
Yeah.
1:27:36
kinda hate when people say that,
1:27:37
but it if it doesn't put you in a good morale situation if you lose this.
1:27:43
Looking at this completely objectively is hard for me because there's
1:27:47
the other stuff that gets in the way.
1:27:48
Like for instance, every time that the another Western team loses,
1:27:52
it's good for the riders, which I like.
1:27:54
So so my
1:27:54
Yeah, yeah.
1:27:56
my heart is saying, Well, don't yeah,
1:27:58
go out there and play a whale of a game,
1:27:59
Davis. Just go crazy and and and and show and and just in case anyone's doubting
1:28:06
that you can play in any circumstance.
1:28:08
But MJ, you said it.
1:28:10
It's a right across the country.
1:28:12
It's a seven o'clock game, so it's ten o'clock at home for them.
1:28:15
Yes, they they've got eight days of rest with it,
1:28:19
but still they are somewhat banged up.
1:28:22
Their running game will have to change now If there's ever a game where
1:28:27
B C's gonna beat Montreal, this should be it.
1:28:30
So
1:28:31
Not not high confidence, but I'd go with about a sixty five percent confidence
1:28:36
I'm gonna say the Lions.
1:28:38
65, wow.
1:28:40
~
1:28:41
That's high confidence for me.
1:28:44
We're so
1:28:44
boring this week. We're so boring.
1:28:47
I own yeah. We're pretty much all agree except for one game.
1:28:51
to go on game predictions of who we want to win,
1:28:53
can change that up.
1:28:54
that's different. That's a different story.
1:28:55
Yeah, that's a whole different one.
1:28:58
Yeah. When we're being impartial here,
1:29:00
we've got to separate our heart from our head here on the
1:29:01
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
1:29:03
I will say for like the the Banjo Bowl and the Stamps Elks game,
1:29:06
like those home and homes are hard to come out on a double win.
1:29:08
Yeah. Well yeah, and same thing
1:29:10
Mm-hmm.
1:29:10
But
1:29:11
with B C. It's a home and home again,
1:29:13
so
1:29:14
yeah, that's a home and home. Yeah.
1:29:15
So there's there's three home and homes and those are hard to sweep.
1:29:21
It's should be a fun weekend. Good luck with the power rankings next week.
1:29:26
Ha ha.
1:29:27
Yes. I always get a kick out of people complaining about the the power rankings.
1:29:31
We got a complaint on Reddit today from from last week's power rankings.
1:29:34
How can you put B C ahead of Saskatchewan?
1:29:37
B C just lost a game this weekend.
1:29:39
Yeah, but those power rankings came out last week,
1:29:42
so
1:29:43
Someone got mad at me for putting the Elks ahead of the Aloites and I told them
1:29:46
it was a vibes-based rankings.
1:29:47
Yeah. Hey, power rankings are an opinion.
1:29:49
Yeah.
1:29:51
You're loud yours and
1:29:52
and I think you've been doing a fantastic job on these,
1:29:55
I know. Well,
1:29:55
so
1:29:55
like this this is not my first choice of job on this podcast.
1:30:00
No, but hey, like
1:30:02
I said earlier, you play through the the pain.
1:30:04
Do what you
1:30:05
Yeah.
1:30:06
need to. Alrighty. I think we're almost done here.
1:30:11
So closing comments, I'll put this back on just to brag again about how lucky
1:30:15
there you go.
1:30:16
I am that
1:30:16
what MJ made for me.
1:30:19
It's awesome.
1:30:19
I've
1:30:19
even made one for myself. Well
1:30:21
Well now I feel even more special.
1:30:22
I need a B.C. Lion one.
1:30:24
the BC one makes it like maybe I'll have to make a Pacific frost
1:30:27
one because otherwise it just looks like Halloween.
1:30:30
Yes.
1:30:31
Yes. And the tabbies would yeah,
1:30:32
True.
1:30:32
I know. I could do like a white and orange one maybe.
1:30:33
tabbies would look good. Do yourself one.
1:30:37
So, I think we're pretty much there.
1:30:39
MP, thank you for coming in. It's having your opinions and input
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has certainly made this a much more interesting show.
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I hope it wasn't ~ more painful than you were afraid of or anything.
1:30:52
I hope you had a good time.
1:30:54
Yeah, I did. Thanks for allowing me to come.
1:30:56
It was great. Thanks for the invite.
1:30:58
Now I know you said to me earlier that you're not on social media,
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so if anybody wants to send any comments to MP,
1:31:04
just hit us up here on the comments here on the video or at the ~ any
1:31:09
of our social media CFL sites and we'll pass them along.
1:31:12
But do you have any other closing thoughts for this week or the week coming
1:31:16
up or anything?
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The league, I actually feel the league has been on notice and I think there's
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a lot more people paying attention to it.
1:31:23
And you can't always base that on people in the stands,
1:31:26
but I think there's a lot more people tuning in.
1:31:29
I think because of social media,
1:31:30
that's been a great thing. And thanks to you guys for being on there
1:31:33
and promoting the CFL. great.
1:31:35
Well thank you and you're thank you for promoting the CFL with us.
1:31:39
Definitely welcome. We we love doing this.
1:31:39
Even if you cheer for the lions.
1:31:41
Okay,
1:31:42
MJ, your whatcha gonna hit with for the for closings?
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yes, well, you
1:31:46
know, ~ just like
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I'm looking forward to your comments on the power rankings now that we are
1:31:52
~ on the CFL StatsGeek power list over on Instagram at CFL Outsiders and then
1:31:59
I will not be posting anything about games because I will be at a game
1:32:03
and hosting a tailgate party. So you'll have to like just muddle through this
1:32:08
weekend without me. but yeah, otherwise you can find me there.
1:32:11
I will still obviously be posting about how upset I am about
1:32:14
the Blue Jays constantly. ~
1:32:16
It's yeah, over there at Sports and Plants.
1:32:18
Hey.
1:32:18
And I'm basically spending the the next three days putting a
1:32:24
lot of moisturizing cream on my ass 'cause I've got twelve hours of football
1:32:27
to sit through on the weekend.
1:32:29
So other than that, I don't know and I and I'm completely sleep deprived.
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So I don't know that I've got anything better to to close off with than that.
1:32:37
I do run most of the ~ the social media at the C FL Outsiders anywhere
1:32:43
but Instagram, if you want to send me a
1:32:45
A comment anywhere on those and other than that,
1:32:48
thank you very much to MJ for coming back as usual.
1:32:52
MP, thank you for coming in and adding just a much wonderful perspective.
1:32:56
And it's it's great to get a Lions fan too,
1:32:59
because we haven't had one of them yet.
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But there we go. But
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Glad to obilge
1:33:04
for MP and MJ, this is old man saying,
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until next week, get the hell off my lawn.