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Freedom Friday: Because Someone Showed Me, I Now Walk With Jesus & “I Can Only Imagine 2” Movie Release with Tim Timmons · Karl and Crew

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  S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond. Come as
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  S1: Delivering the truth daily.
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  S3: All of my attempts to, you know, prop myself up
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  S3: with achievement and good works. Well, God wasn't impressed by that.
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  S3: Even if other people were.
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  S2: The gospel changes everything.
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  S4: Freedom in Christ. Man, it's like that backpack of cement
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  S4: just falling to the ground.
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  S1: Now, from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
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  S1: and crew. Okay, I thought I'd change my shtick. I
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  S1: usually come out with these kind of big announcements that
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  S5: You do?
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  S3: Yeah, but you're not going to do that today.
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  S1: No, I'm gonna change it. I'm gonna change it. And
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  S1: I'm just. I'm just shooting from the hip here.
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  S2: Come on.
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  S6: Do do do do do do do do do do
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  S2: I mean that's good. It's it's kind of tight. That's
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  S2: like the.
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  S3: Solid.
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  S2: It's like the wake up horn in the military, isn't it?
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  S1: Uh, no, that's Kentucky Derby. It's a call to a
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  S1: call to the gates.
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  S3: Every summer camp movie I've ever seen uses that, too.
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  S2: I think it's a.
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  S1: Basically get sleepy kids out of their cabins or horses
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  S1: to the gates.
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  S2: Yeah, one or the other.
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  S3: It's very similar, actually. We do have an announcement. That's
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  S3: what we're leading up to. We're actually asking for your
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  S3: help with something. We are putting together a video for
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  S3: upcoming spring share of testimonies from listeners just like you.
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  S3: If you have a story of how God has used
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  S3: Moody Radio in some strategic way, taking a next step
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  S3: or a first step in your walk with Jesus. We
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  S3: would love it if you were willing to record just
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  S3: 15 to 30s on camera. We have step by step
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  S3: instructions to make it easy for you to submit it.
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  S3: We would love to actually see and hear from you.
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  S3: Just text the word video if you're willing to participate.
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  S3: Text video to (800) 555-7898. Text video to 800 555 7898.
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  S1: Yeah. No cameo appearances from house cats or favorite dogs. Why?
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  S3: Actually. Why not? I don't want to put those restrictions.
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  S3: I don't want to make rules where there are no rules.
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  S1: Okay, I changed my mind.
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  S3: It's like, I don't know.
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  S1: Actually, I didn't change my mind.
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  S3: Blaze makes appearances on air all the time through story,
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  S3: so I don't want to limit.
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  S1: All right, if you got cats and dogs, bring em in.
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  S1: If you got guppies, bring em in.
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  S3: You got to do the talking, though. You gotta. But
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  S3: if they want to, just.
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  S1: Know if they got a talking horse, Mr. Ed, they
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  S1: bring it, man.
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  S2: Yeah. If you have a talking horse, I do want
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  S2: them to do the talking.
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  S3: I want to see that we've got.
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  S1: Mr. Ed anyone?
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  S2: I remember hearing about Mr. Ed from you guys.
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  S1: Oh of course. Yeah, exactly. But, man, when I was
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  S1: a little kid, I thought, man, that horse can talk.
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  S2: That's incredible.
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  S3: I remember, wasn't it part of the the Nick at
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  S3: Nite lineup? That was where I saw, like, what.
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  S1: Happened to Nick at night.
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  S2: I know Nick at night was good.
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  S3: Stuff like that was kind of like the only television
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  S3: that I was, like, really allowed to watch. So I.
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  S3: Some of my favorite shows as a, as a little
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  S3: kid were Mary Tyler Moore was one of my favorites. Yes.
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  S3: I wanted to be her. I watched the Dick Van
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  S3: Dyke Show. I watched some Mister Ed. I mean, I
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  S3: didn't really watch much like current television for my time period,
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  S3: but I did watch a lot of the.
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  S1: You and Mary Tyler Moore look a little bit alike.
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  S1: How could you not? Really? Yeah, a little bit. That's
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  S1: really funny that you say that.
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  S3: Interesting. I just love that part. You know where she
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  S3: swirls around? Oh, yeah. Throws her hat. Who can turn
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  S3: the world on with her smile? And then she's like
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  S3: da da da da da. And then.
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  S2: She.
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  S3: Throws her hat into the air with abandon. Oh, yeah.
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  S3: And she launches out as an independent woman in Minnesota. Yeah.
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  S3: Wherever she was. What was the name of the station
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  S3: that she worked for?
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  S1: WKRP.
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  S3: No, that w that was WKRP in Cincinnati with you.
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  S3: It was a whole other. What was the name of
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  S3: the station? Mr. Grant and Ted Baxter was the weather.
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  S3: They were the best.
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  S2: I don't know what you guys are talking.
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  S1: Grant. Grant and Baxter were the.
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  S3: Oh, that's such a good show. Just. It was classic.
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  S1: Baxter was so tacky. It was perfect.
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  S3: Oh, it was. JM. W jm news. That's right. Jim.
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  S1: Jim.
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  S3: Yeah. Anyway, how did we get here?
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  S2: I don't know.
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  S3: Oh, Mr. Talking horse.
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  S2: Classic.
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  S3: Text video to 800 555 7898. If you want to be.
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  S3: If you want to submit a testimonial video to (800) 555-7898.
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  S1: I've been duly rebuked for not letting cameos of your
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  S1: dogs or cats or guppies. So bring them in.
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  S3: Bring them on in.
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  S7: Breaking chains and running free. You're listening to Carl and
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  S7: Crew Freedom Friday.
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  S1: What a perfect day to get a radical transformation story. Ali.
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  S3: And we have one for you coming up. He is
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  S3: a pastor's kid.
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  S1: Oh, that sets it up right there.
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  S2: That's all you need to know.
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  S3: Oh, boy.
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  S2: Spoken as a pastor's kid.
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  S3: A pastor's kid who walked a really difficult road until
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  S3: he had a radical encounter with Jesus. Freedom Friday testimony
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  S3: you are not going to want to miss. Coming up.
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  S7: You can take him out of Alaska, but you can't
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  S7: take Alaska out of him. Carl is in the crew.
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  S7: It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
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  S1: Well, we set it up this way. When you got
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  S1: a preacher's kid, you got a potential for a radical
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  S1: life change story. Right, preacher kid?
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  S2: Yeah. You're right.
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  S1: That must do your heart some good, though, right?
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  S2: It is encouraging to hear because I am also a
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  S2: preacher's kid, so I. I grew up in a home
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  S2: where I myself was wayward, and I had some wayward
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  S2: brothers who have found Jesus. And, uh, and they talk
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  S2: about it now in their stories, but it's good because
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  S2: it's not as cut and dry as people would think.
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  S2: It's not as glamorous as people would think.
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  S1: Yeah. Stephen, what's the rub with being a pastor's kid?
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  S1: There's tons of expectations. And, uh, did you feel that
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  S1: as a kid growing up?
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  S8: Uh, I'm actually an evangelist kid. We traveled from church
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  S8: to church camp, revival to Revival. So it's a little different.
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  S8: You're not in the same place all the time with
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  S8: the same people, all the time. So it does have
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  S8: some different dynamics that I think, you know, did lead
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  S8: to probably making it really, you know, for him to
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  S8: be you'd see one person on a stage preaching about Jesus,
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  S8: but behind closed doors you would see somebody totally different.
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  S8: My dad was honestly, physically, violently abusive with my mom.
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  S8: So throughout my teens I was like, I don't I
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  S8: don't want anything to do with this Jesus guy, um,
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  S8: or God or any of that. Um, so at 11
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  S8: years old, I started smoking, drinking marijuana, 15 cocaine, selling drugs,
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  S8: 17 full out crystal meth addict using every day for
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  S8: many years to come. And hated Jesus. Hated Christians. Wow.
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  S8: Through all those years of addiction. So yeah, pretty dark stuff.
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  S8: But you know, God writes the best stories, right?
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  S3: Yeah. Amen. Steven McWhirter. Our guest right now. Uh, he
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  S3: is the has a song, come, Jesus, Come, which has
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  S3: earned over 100 million views and streams across many platforms.
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  S3: You know, we're talking today about your debut book, Radically
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  S3: Restored How Knowing Jesus Heals Our Brokenness. You mentioned the
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  S3: hypocrisy that you saw in in the life of your dad,
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  S3: who was a different person in front of the people
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  S3: than he was at home. You started to believe some
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  S3: lies about God. What were the things that you believed
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  S3: to be true about God that turned you off?
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  S8: You know, I think it's all through the view of
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  S8: a broken person. My dad, you know, a broken man.
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  S8: And I guess it would probably be one of the
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  S8: big ones with is, like I said, if God is real,
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  S8: he's not good. Um, so it was probably his goodness. Like,
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  S8: I think even as believers, you know, if you don't
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  S8: go through what I went through, you come out on
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  S8: the other end going, well, I should want what God
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  S8: wants for my life because it's good for him. But
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  S8: it's a bummer for me. But I should want it
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  S8: because he's God, right? That's a lot of our internal theology,
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  S8: whether we know it or not. Um, but once you
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  S8: start to understand that he's the source of goodness, like
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  S8: when Moses went on the mountain, he said, show me
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  S8: your glory. God said, let all my goodness go before you.
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  S8: That's the source of who he is. It's his character, right?
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  S8: It's his nature for sure.
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  S1: Steven McWhirter, our guest right now. Steven, uh, I was
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  S1: a cocaine addict, uh, in my young 20s. And, I mean,
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  S1: it was bad. I mean, chronic nosebleeds. And I'm a
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  S1: type A personality, so I couldn't get enough of the
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  S1: stuff in me, and I was a mess. It's interesting
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  S1: how I think a lot of people look at drugs
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  S1: to Jesus stories and they say, yeah, those who are
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  S1: forgiven much love much. Not recognizing that any person called
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  S1: out of darkness and into the light has been forgiven much.
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  S1: That passage is illuminating those that have a deep appreciation
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  S1: for God to rescue them. And dude, when you're talking
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  S1: years on crystal meth. I tried it one time and
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  S1: it scared me half to death because it was so loaded. What?
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  S1: What was going through your head all those years when
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  S1: you're on that crazy train?
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  S8: Where can I find more? I often say, you know,
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  S8: I think there was just. There was some deep trauma
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  S8: there with my dad and with all the things I
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  S8: was brought up around. If I got still long enough to, like,
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  S8: think about it, I would just instantly be like, well,
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  S8: let's let's get high again or let's run from this again.
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  S8: It was just a blur of me burning my life
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  S8: down around me. But ultimately the Lord knew what he
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  S8: was doing. There were people praying for me, you know, uh, interceding,
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  S8: really believing that God, my mom was one of them. And, uh,
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  S8: somebody gave me that book, uh, case for Christ by
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  S8: Lee Strobel, and I miraculously accepted it, which is amazing
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  S8: because I hated Jesus, hated Christian. So I don't even
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  S8: know how that worked. But it was a blur of, like, whatever.
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  S1: That's the Holy Spirit thing all the way.
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  S8: Right. Yeah. That, to me, is the most miraculous part
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  S8: of my story. But I said to the book three.
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  S8: Fast forward to 3:00 in the morning. I'm literally in
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  S8: a room side table with drugs on it. I'm in bed.
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  S8: I'm reading these book, which is crazy, and there's like,
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  S8: nobody playing music in the corner, right? Creating a spiritual
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  S8: ambience or something. Right. And, uh, it's, you know, but
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  S8: I mean, I knew he was in the room, right? Like,
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  S8: I knew God was in the room, and I was like, okay,
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  S8: I believe this, and I want to give you my
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  S8: life because I believe it's real, but I can't. There's
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  S8: no way I can get quit this. All I've known
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  S8: for so long is this addiction is anger, this depression,
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  S8: this darkness, um, this unforgiveness, right towards other people. And
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  S8: so I was like, God, I want to, but I can't.
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  S8: I just remember this thought that I know wasn't mine.
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  S8: That was, I'm certain, from the Lord. And it was Stephen.
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  S8: You won't do it, I'll do it. And that's I
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  S8: know it now It's Ephesians two eight. You're saved by grace.
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  S8: This isn't something you can boast about. It's a work
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  S8: of God like he does it. But Jesus said, the
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  S8: only work the father asks of you is to believe. Um,
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  S8: that's John 629. And that's what I did. I believed
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  S8: that thought that thing that I thought was from the Lord,
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  S8: and I fell on my knees, gave my life to Jesus.
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  S8: The rest is kind of history. And that was just
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  S8: the beginning. Because, you know, probably the as crazy as
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  S8: it is, many of us are like, man, if I
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  S8: could just be sober and be okay and not burn
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  S8: my life down around me, that would be great. But
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  S8: God's like, that's cool. But I think we could do
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  S8: better than that. So. So here I am. And it
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  S8: even led to this wild restoration story that in this
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  S8: book that's with me and my dad. And that is
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  S8: honestly probably the hardest part of the whole story. You know.
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  S1: You got to give us a taste of that one, bro.
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  S8: After giving my life to Jesus, I was the guy
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  S8: that was like, oh my gosh, it's all real. Like Jesus, Lord,
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  S8: it's all real. Like a crazy person. Right? And I
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  S8: was all in. And so when I read the Bible,
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  S8: I was like, this stuff is real. I want to
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  S8: follow Jesus. And so when Jesus says, you love your enemy,
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  S8: I was like, you know, forgive your enemy. Uh, you
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  S8: forgive those who trespass against you as you forgive those,
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  S8: you know who you've been forgiven. Like all this kind
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  S8: of stuff. And I was like, gosh, well, who's my enemy?
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  S8: And I was like, it's my dad. I mean, there's
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  S8: no greater enemy in my story for me. And, um,
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  S8: so I knew the thing the Lord was telling me
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  S8: call me to do was to forgive my dad, which
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  S8: seemed like the most offensive and horrible and terrible thing ever. Like,
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  S8: if there was anybody I could think of that did
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  S8: not deserve to be forgiven, it was him. And so
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  S8: you understand that this part of my story, I'm in
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  S8: my early 20s when I get saved. At this point,
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  S8: it'd been like about ten years or more since my
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  S8: dad had stopped abusing my mom. Um, that's a long story.
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  S8: That's in the book where we left him in the
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  S8: middle of the night, and my mom came back. I
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  S8: wish she would have left him. I'm not gonna mince
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  S8: words there. And if you're someone hearing this and you're
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  S8: not safe, get safe. But my mom stayed with him. And,
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  S8: you know, here I am at this place where I
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  S8: feel like the Lord's calling me forgiving. So I go
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  S8: to see him. This is not the kind of scene
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  S8: you'd put in a movie. There was nothing like. It
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  S8: was just awkward. I'm like, hey, dad, I want to
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  S8: forgive you about all this stuff, blah, blah, blah. And
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  S8: we just didn't talk about it, right? That's the other thing.
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  S8: You don't talk about it. So the fact that I
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  S8: even brought it up and was like, hey, I want
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  S8: to say, you know, I forgive you. And he just
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  S8: looked at me like a deer in headlights, like reality
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  S8: was cracking around him. And it's like, uh. And I go, okay, cool. Bye.
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  S8: I just get my car and drive off. I mean,
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  S8: like you, there was no beam of light or a
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  S8: bird on my shoulder. It was just awkward. And fast forward,
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  S8: you know, uh, my fiance at the time, who's now
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  S8: my wife, uh, is has been watching me. She's given
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  S8: her life to Jesus, and she's like, hey, I want
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  S8: your dad to baptize us because she knows the story.
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  S8: She sees all.
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  S9: The word.
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  S8: And I'm like, you're insane. Whatever. This I don't know.
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  S8: So we get in this crazy, screaming, cussing match on
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  S8: our way to get baptized, on our way to getting baptized. Right?
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  S8: So we better hurry up, get there. So we knew
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  S8: that something was trying to keep us from it. We
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  S8: get there, we do the baptism. It's beautiful. Uh, my
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  S8: dad that night, my mom tells me later, my dad
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  S8: wept all night over the idea that the Lord might
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  S8: be able to restore all that he had broken. And
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  S8: fast forward a little bit more. My fiance at the
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  S8: time was like, hey, I want your dad to perform
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  S8: our wedding ceremony. Um, at this point, I'm thinking this
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  S8: marriage isn't going to work out. This woman is.
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  S1: Crazy.
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  S8: The worst. But anyways, he does. He performs the wedding ceremony.
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  S8: Absolutely beautiful. Now, was it easy? No. But I knew
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  S8: that the Lord was in it all. Fast forward. My dad.
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  S8: At this point in our story, we're talking right now.
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  S8: The three of us, right? My dad's been passed from
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  S8: cancer for 12 years. We. I was in the hospital
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  S8: room with him, you know, in hospice, and he's in
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  S8: a coma. If you've ever been with somebody in a
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  S8: situation like this, it's very difficult. Um, towards the end
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  S8: of the cancer. And they're unresponsive. They can hear you,
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  S8: they say, but they can't communicate. And people, they'll tell you,
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  S8: you know, hey, look, they're going to hold on and
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  S8: hold on until you tell them it's okay to let go.
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  S8: And normally they will pass not long after that. And
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  S8: so we've been doing this for my dad. And he
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  S8: was like a week or so. And I'm in the
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  S8: room alone with him and I see him struggling to breathe.
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  S8: And I think about Jesus and Peter or Peter goes, hey,
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  S8: how many times should I forgive my enemies? Seven times.
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  S8: And the Lord's like, no, seven times 77. Like, don't
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  S8: even try counting. You just keep doing it. And I'm like, okay.
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  S8: I lean into my dad one last time and I
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  S8: whisper in his ear and I say, dad, I love
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  S8: you and I really do forgive you. It's okay. And
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  S8: he breathed his last breath right in that moment. And
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  S8: his soul left his body. And I knew in that
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  S8: moment guys listen the most like, well, one of the
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  S8: most Jesus like things we can do on this side
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  S8: of eternity is to forgive. It's also the hardest, most
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  S8: offensive thing for us to do because there are some
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  S8: people that were like, oh, I can't forgive them. But forgiveness, man,
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  S8: it's about a debt. A legitimate debt somebody owes you, right?
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  S8: You have the ability to repay that debt up just
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  S8: like Jesus ripped your debt up. Now, that doesn't let
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  S8: the person off the hook. It doesn't mean you're going
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  S8: to still be in relationship with them. That doesn't mean
• 17:06
  S8: they get access, right? There are consequences to our actions.
• 17:10
  S8: But there's still grace, right? But there are consequences to
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  S8: our actions now. But I can love them and forgive them.
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  S8: And because otherwise I'm hurting me more than I am them.
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  S8: It's like drinking poison and expecting different results. And, uh,
• 17:25
  S8: that's probably the craziest thing from my story for me.
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  S8: And it's probably one of the biggest pivotal moments in
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  S8: my whole life, was coming to that conclusion and letting
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  S8: the Lord begin to actually restore the whole part of
• 17:37
  S8: my story. Because when you get saved and you give
• 17:39
  S8: your life to Jesus, that's like the beginning.
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  S1: Yes.
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  S8: And he's going to start to hit areas of your
• 17:45
  S8: life you didn't see coming.
• 17:46
  S1: Yeah. Let me hit something here real quick. There's someone
• 17:49
  S1: listening right now who feels like. Ah, glad it worked
• 17:53
  S1: for him. Won't work for me. Taste and see that
• 17:56
  S1: the Lord is good. And maybe you need to even
• 17:58
  S1: take a read on this. Allie's going to have a
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  S1: We're talking discipleship all week long, Ali.
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  S3: And we have a special guest joining us. Give us
• 18:30
  S3: a global perspective on discipleship, doctor Jared Nelms.
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  S1: Yeah. Hang on. This is Forrest Frank. It's a good day.
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• 18:44
  S1: So here's the deal. You might want to say, man,
• 18:46
  S1: you guys are hammering discipleship a lot. Let me go
• 18:50
  S1: to our hallmark passage here to prove why. Here it is.
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  S1: Titus 211 and 12, you might say, oh, I thought
• 18:58
  S1: you were going to go to second Timothy two two. Yeah,
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  S1: that's that's what we're called to do. But here's the
• 19:02
  S1: blue sky vision of why to do it. Think about this.
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  S1: I don't know that we've directly said this is grace
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  S1: is a means of discipleship, and it's buried right here
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  S1: in this passage. I don't know if we've gone after
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  S1: it that way, but here it is. For the grace
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  S1: of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people. Comma.
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  S1: Training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions and live self-controlled,
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  S1: upright and godly lives in this present age, waiting for
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  S1: our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our
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  S1: great God and Savior, Jesus Christ. Here's what you know
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  S1: what discipleship is. Discipleship is everything after the grace of
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  S1: God saves us. Comma. The grace of God trains us
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  S1: to renounce ungodliness, worldly passions, and self-controlled godly lives in
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  S1: this present age. Without discipleship, everything past the Comma Alley
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  S1: ain't happening. Sister.
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  S3: It's a good point, and I love that use of
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  S3: the word training that that that grace, that God's grace
• 20:00
  S3: that trains us to live godly lives. I mean, that
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  S3: is a process.
• 20:06
  S1: Yeah. And it's beautiful, doctor Jared Nelms come on, man,
• 20:10
  S1: give us before we do a full introduction here, give
• 20:12
  S1: us a vision for why discipleship really does change everything.
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  S1: You've got some stories, right?
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  S10: Yeah, definitely. I think at core to the. The central
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  S10: focus of the Great Commission is to go and make
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  S10: disciples of all nations. And what we're seeing today is
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  S10: people that have been trapped in bondage, locked behind bars, struggling, addicted,
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  S10: experiencing the love and salvation found only in Jesus Christ,
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  S10: and that leading to transformation that not only changes one life,
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  S10: but leads to a ripple effect of changing villages and
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  S10: neighborhoods and communities and ultimately the spreading of the gospel
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  S10: around the world.
• 20:58
  S3: Our guest this morning, he serves as president and CEO
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  S3: at the Timothy Initiative, where discipleship is absent. What is lost?
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  S1: Whoo! That's a sorry. I'm going to interrupt right there.
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  S1: That's a great question, Ali.
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  S10: I think the the power of the gospel is found in, uh,
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  S10: something that's hard to explain. And I think Jesus was
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  S10: very clear. We have been called to go and make disciples,
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  S10: and he is the one who will build his church.
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  S10: So what is lost is the core of the strategy
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  S10: of God.
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  S1: Wow, that's a powerful statement, Jared. Yeah. You know, it's interesting.
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  S1: I've been wrestling with this ever since I met you
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  S1: and your dad and T.I and been exposed to this.
• 21:44
  S1: It's so challenging, Jared. And it's so encouraging because I
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  S1: think every person out there, if we go back to
• 21:52
  S1: Titus two, I hadn't even planned on this. But it's
• 21:54
  S1: such a passage. I think everyone listening right now, and
• 21:58
  S1: even those precious folks I met in Kenya, if you
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  S1: if you tell them grace can save you, but it
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  S1: can also train you. That's now the process of discipleship
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  S1: to renounce ungodliness, worldly passions, to live self-controlled, upright and
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  S1: godly lives in this present age. I think everybody out
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  S1: there screams Yes, I want that. And we sell short
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  S1: that potential, don't we, Jared? If we are just preaching
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  S1: salvation to people and not discipleship through God's grace, explain
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  S1: that from your vantage point.
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  S10: Uh, I think it's interesting you started in in Titus,
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  S10: if you continue on to verse 15, there's a really
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  S10: important point that's made there which says encourage the believers
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  S10: to do them. So it's not just about teaching to
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  S10: do these things, but actually following through. And one of
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  S10: the the core elements that we focus on is faithfulness.
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  S10: And the reality is faithfulness is really defined by knowing,
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  S10: doing and training others to do the same. And in
• 23:13
  S10: the West, in America, we often focus on discipleship as
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  S10: teaching or knowing things about God, and we fail to
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  S10: put them in practice, and even more so fail to
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  S10: train others to do the same. And what Titus 215
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  S10: is saying there is teach these things and encourage the
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  S10: believers to do them.
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  S1: Yeah.
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  S3: Wow. Doctor Jared Nelms, give us a little snapshot of
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  S3: your own, of your own story. How did God capture
• 23:43
  S3: your heart? Obviously, we know that your dad is rich
• 23:46
  S3: in faith, pastored for many years. When did God really
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  S3: grab Ahold of you?
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  S10: Yeah, I was in the bush in southern Africa, a
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  S10: country called Zambia. And we were I was with a
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  S10: group of young adults, and we were out showing the
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  S10: Jesus film to a tribe and a village that had
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  S10: never heard the name of Jesus. And I was a
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  S10: bit far from the faith. I was a bit of
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  S10: a prodigal growing up in the church. I knew God
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  S10: was real, but I hadn't really had a relationship with him.
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  S10: And as the team was showing the Jesus film, God
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  S10: spoke to me in that moment and in my faith
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  S10: became more real than it had ever been. And since
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  S10: that moment, I've wanted nothing more to do than to
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  S10: be used by God.
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  S1: Jared. That's a beautiful story, dude. Jared is, um, he's
• 24:39
  S1: a tall guy. When I first met him, I thought
• 24:41
  S1: it reminds me of my son. He's up there. He's
• 24:44
  S1: up there, man. Um, but a great heart. And that
• 24:49
  S1: heart has led to leadership of team. And we're going
• 24:51
  S1: to have a couple of days here in April, guys,
• 24:54
  S1: that we're going to jump in and watch God do
• 24:56
  S1: something amazing here. We're going to we're going to get
• 24:58
  S1: behind T. Isn't that going to be cool? Yes. But
• 25:02
  S1: coming up here um, after a couple of minutes here,
• 25:05
  S1: Jared I want to get after something that it's hard
• 25:09
  S1: to hear it, but I think we look at discipleship
• 25:13
  S1: and we we want to lower the bar so that
• 25:17
  S1: we can get more and more people over it, meaning
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  S1: less commitment and not so much time, you know, how
• 25:23
  S1: can we what's the minimum viable product we've got to
• 25:26
  S1: do to get people kind of down the path? And
• 25:30
  S1: then I go to Kenya and I'm meeting these guys
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  S1: and gals and I'm going, uh oh, they're spending five,
• 25:37
  S1: six hours a week pouring through the word of God,
• 25:41
  S1: getting coached, mentored, discipled. So we're going to get some
• 25:45
  S1: facts and figures. We're going to get really honest about
• 25:47
  S1: this because, you know, training, which is what we find
• 25:51
  S1: in Titus two. Ali. It implies some kind of sweat
• 25:54
  S1: equity here. Right? A little bit a little bit. We'll
• 25:57
  S1: break it down Jared. Now special guest straight ahead.
• 26:01
  S7: A basketball mom who's mastered the dad joke. Ali is
• 26:05
  S7: in the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
• 26:09
  S1: Yeah, what a week. I'm bummed that it's ending, actually.
• 26:12
  S1: Freedom Friday. Yeah. All right. We got to get to
• 26:15
  S1: a weekend, but we're gonna. We're gonna juice this for
• 26:18
  S1: all it's got. Jared nelms, doctor Jared Nelms, our guest
• 26:21
  S1: right now. He's the president and CEO of the Timothy Initiative.
• 26:25
  S1: More on the details of that and how we can
• 26:28
  S1: partner with them. That's coming up in April. But I
• 26:31
  S1: gotta tell you, Jared, I was so I'm still so
• 26:34
  S1: inspired by not only your work, but the work of
• 26:37
  S1: God's grace and mercy and the movement of the spirit
• 26:41
  S1: in different regions of the world where you're working, especially
• 26:43
  S1: where I was at in the northern kind of shores
• 26:46
  S1: of Kenya, man. Amazing. But here's the thing that stuck
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  S1: with me, and that is we were, I think, out
• 26:55
  S1: of a good intention. We've many pastors, leaders, parents, you
• 27:01
  S1: name it. The kind of the ecosystem of discipleship in
• 27:04
  S1: America is we try to get everybody into the hoop
• 27:09
  S1: and wharf of discipleship. So we have a class or
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  S1: we have a, we have a a preaching series and
• 27:14
  S1: then we're we're kind of done. All right now we're
• 27:16
  S1: all disciples. Discipleship, brother. It's work isn't it? And speak
• 27:22
  S1: to that for a second.
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  S10: Yeah, I think there's what you're honing in on is
• 27:27
  S10: there's a, a constant pull to shape Christianity after our
• 27:33
  S10: own desires instead of God's. And somehow, unintentionally, I think
• 27:39
  S10: we have taken Jesus's command of take up your cross
• 27:45
  S10: and follow me. And we've somehow turned that into give
• 27:50
  S10: me your life, and I will make all your dreams
• 27:52
  S10: come true. And the reality is, the promise is that
• 27:56
  S10: you get God. Not all of your dreams come true.
• 27:59
  S10: And that is so much more valuable than having having
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  S10: a relationship with God. So I think the gospel in
• 28:07
  S10: grace is not opposed to effort, it's opposed to earning.
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  S10: We don't earn any righteousness with God. He gives that
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  S10: by grace we are saved through faith. However, the gospel
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  S10: is not opposed to effort. Jesus said, take up your
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  S10: cross and follow me.
• 28:24
  S3: Doctor Jared Nelms from the Timothy Initiative with us this morning.
• 28:28
  S3: Let's talk about the effort aspect of it. When you
• 28:31
  S3: approach discipleship with the model that Ty has laid out globally,
• 28:35
  S3: what does that look like practically? Talk a little bit
• 28:38
  S3: about the training that goes into discipleship.
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  S10: Yeah, it's it's really based on a simple idea of
• 28:47
  S10: just just imagine a three legged stool in your mind. Uh,
• 28:52
  S10: it's easy to understand. Each of the legs of the
• 28:55
  S10: stool represent three aspects of what it means to be
• 28:59
  S10: a faithful disciple of Jesus. Knowing, doing, and sharing. So
• 29:06
  S10: knowing is what does the Bible say? What does Jesus
• 29:09
  S10: call us to do? Jesus said, if you love me,
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  S10: you will obey my commands. So to to obey his commands,
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  S10: we first have to know what they are. Secondly is
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  S10: the doing. We move from knowledge in our head to
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  S10: action in our hands and our feet. Obviously, this is
• 29:28
  S10: based on a love in Christ Jesus. Obviously says to
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  S10: abide in his love and as a result of that
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  S10: we will go and bear fruit. So we know and
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  S10: we do. However, discipleship is not just about me. Jesus
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  S10: has empowered us and sent us to go and proclaim
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  S10: the gospel to the world. So everything that I know,
• 29:51
  S10: everything I'm doing in obedience to Christ, I'm also called
• 29:56
  S10: to share that with other people so that they can
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  S10: know so that they can do and they can share
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  S10: with others also.
• 30:02
  S1: Okay. This is one of the coolest, simple little three
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  S1: legged illustrations I've ever heard, isn't it, Ali?
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  S3: Very much so.
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  S1: Okay, so here's where we're stuck, Jared and and I,
• 30:13
  S1: I think you would being raised in America, you would
• 30:16
  S1: get this. We are basically hung up on that first leg.
• 30:20
  S1: We're good on preaching and helping people, knowing that next
• 30:24
  S1: step of doing we're struggling. But there's there's been a
• 30:28
  S1: resurgence of this. But here's what's interesting. That sharing piece
• 30:32
  S1: that's a huge deal. And here's what's wild, Jared. And
• 30:36
  S1: I'm just I just want a mosh pit with you
• 30:39
  S1: guys for a second here. Here's what's wild. Here's what's wild.
• 30:42
  S1: Brain scientists know that the greatest thing we can do
• 30:47
  S1: is get out of ourselves if we're in a funk.
• 30:50
  S1: Isn't that wild? So this just is this. This three
• 30:56
  S1: legged stool. When I'm. I'm at this baptism broadcasting live
• 30:59
  S1: from there in Kenya, 50 folks getting baptized, and I
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  S1: was broadcasting live. I look across the back row of
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  S1: these guys and usually the back row of guys, they're
• 31:09
  S1: the ones that are screwing around in America, right? The
• 31:11
  S1: back row, these guys, these are young men there in
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  S1: the back row. Why? Because they can get more focused intent.
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  S1: Their faces look like we're in this thing. I mean,
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  S1: the earnestness was huge. So I think for all of
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  S1: us here, we know knowing we know doing champion the
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  S1: sharing and how you've seen that impact the practical lives
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  S1: of people that you minister to around the globe.
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  S10: I think as as we see the hand of God
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  S10: and the work of God in our midst, it's really
• 31:45
  S10: hard when you find this treasure, this thing that transforms
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  S10: your life, this thing that has changed your perspective and
• 31:57
  S10: ultimately your eternity. How can you not want to share
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  S10: that with other people. And when you're dealing with people
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  S10: that are coming from, uh, darkness, living in context of
• 32:09
  S10: foreign religions and worshiping gods and having no hope and
• 32:14
  S10: living in darkness, once you see the light, once you
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  S10: receive Jesus, how can I not share that with my
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  S10: brothers and sisters? So when you when you reach people
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  S10: in that place, they can't help but tell other people.
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  S1: Yeah.
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  S3: Doctor Jared Nelms, give us a story to to close
• 32:33
  S3: us out here as you've been doing this work, overseeing
• 32:36
  S3: this ministry. Give us a story that you've seen recently
• 32:39
  S3: that really encouraged you.
• 32:41
  S10: Yeah, this this story just came in a few months
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  S10: back in Southeast Asia in a, in a Buddhist context.
• 32:48
  S10: There was a young man, uh, that struggled with, uh,
• 32:52
  S10: some sort of depression or mental instability, and they took
• 32:56
  S10: him to doctors. They took him to which doctors and healers.
• 33:00
  S10: Everything they tried couldn't work and ultimately they ended up.
• 33:05
  S10: The only solution was to build a cage and to
• 33:09
  S10: put him inside. And so for 21 years, this man
• 33:14
  S10: lived inside a cage, struggling, desperate. His his mother sought
• 33:19
  S10: every possible solution. Until one day they heard about an
• 33:24
  S10: average ordinary believer who prayed in the name of Jesus
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  S10: and things changed. So they asked this young guy to
• 33:34
  S10: come over. Could you pray for this guy that's been
• 33:37
  S10: in the cage? The man in the cage? So he said, sure,
• 33:39
  S10: I would love to. Long story short, he goes to
• 33:42
  S10: the village. He finds the man in the cage desperate.
• 33:46
  S10: The man doesn't really react until he starts praying in
• 33:49
  S10: the name of Jesus. And the man starts listening. The
• 33:52
  S10: man prays for him. He is delivered. He's ultimately taken
• 33:56
  S10: out of the cage He has received Christ. He's been
• 34:00
  S10: baptized and now he is a disciple that is going
• 34:02
  S10: and making disciples in all the surrounding villages.
• 34:05
  S9: Wow.
• 34:06
  S1: Okay, okay. We can shut the show down today.
• 34:12
  S11: It's incredible what God's doing.
• 34:14
  S1: Oh, Jared, that's like walking streets with Jesus type story
• 34:19
  S1: right there. Ali.
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  S3: Yeah. Man, that is so encouraging.
• 34:24
  S1: Okay, let's point people to him. They can at least
• 34:27
  S1: learn more. Hold on to your shekels. We're going to
• 34:29
  S1: have a party in here for 48 hours down the
• 34:31
  S1: road in April. But my goodness, Ali, uh, how can
• 34:35
  S1: folks find out more about TT?
• 34:36
  S3: You can text disciple to 800 555 7898. Autocorrect should
• 34:42
  S3: help you out on this one. Text disciple to 800
• 34:46
  S3: 555 7898.
• 34:49
  S7: Standing on the rock. Each and every day you're listening
• 34:53
  S7: to Carl and crew.
• 34:55
  S1: Oh my goodness. I am just so pumped about today
• 34:58
  S1: that last story. I'm still living in the fumes of
• 35:00
  S1: it right now.
• 35:01
  S3: The story that Doctor Jared Nelms shared with us. Yeah,
• 35:05
  S3: I mean, you you picture 21 years living in a cage.
• 35:09
  S1: In a cage because he's demonized. What? Call it what
• 35:13
  S1: you will, as Jared said on In Bondage someway, somehow.
• 35:17
  S1: But you have to say that that's demonic because he
• 35:20
  S1: hears the name of Jesus. The minute Jesus was spoken
• 35:23
  S1: over this guy, he opens his heart to hear hear
• 35:26
  S1: the gospel that is out of the cage into Christ.
• 35:32
  S1: Baptized now going around community, sharing the love of Jesus Christ.
• 35:37
  S3: It's beautiful.
• 35:38
  S9: Oh my goodness.
• 35:42
  S1: That boom crew. I just need you to know the
• 35:46
  S1: gospel changes everything. You might be going through something today
• 35:51
  S1: and you're like, I don't know who's got this. The
• 35:56
  S1: same God who made mud patties put them on ice.
• 36:01
  S1: Who declared, get off that pallet and walk. Take it up.
• 36:06
  S1: The same God who looked at a thief on the
• 36:08
  S1: cross and said, today you will be with me in Paradise.
• 36:13
  S1: That God of the 11th hour, that God of the impossible,
• 36:18
  S1: that God of the improbable, is the God who loves
• 36:22
  S1: you today. Give your life to him, number one. Number two,
• 36:26
  S1: do what he tells you to do. And number three,
• 36:30
  S1: give it away. Because there's people in cages today all
• 36:34
  S1: around us who need to be set free. Man. It's
• 36:44
  S1: just an awesome thing to know Jesus Christ. Isn't it Ali?
• 36:47
  S3: It is. I mean, when you think about the the
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  S3: back to the cage thing. I mean, physically caged for
• 36:54
  S3: for 21 years is so hard to imagine.
• 36:58
  S1: It's hard to get your head.
• 36:59
  S3: But at the same time, many people have been in
• 37:02
  S3: bondage in some way for many years, even if not physically, emotionally, spiritually.
• 37:07
  S3: There's so many things that can hold you captive to
• 37:11
  S3: where you don't. You feel. You don't feel any more
• 37:13
  S3: free than somebody living in a cage.
• 37:15
  S1: So true, so true. Well, we're championing discipleship all week long.
• 37:22
  S1: So we got a practical question. And this isn't for everyone,
• 37:25
  S1: but it might be for you.
• 37:27
  S3: Yeah. We're asking you more than just sharing their faith.
• 37:31
  S3: Someone showed you or maybe is showing you currently what
• 37:36
  S3: it looks like to walk like Jesus. Who was it?
• 37:39
  S3: Who was it for you? Who has shown you how
• 37:43
  S3: to walk like Jesus? 805 55 7898. Celebrating discipleship on
• 37:49
  S3: this Freedom Friday. Taking your calls 805 55 7898.
• 37:55
  S7: Romans eight brought her to Jesus while broadcasting traffic overnight.
• 37:59
  S7: Super di is in the crew. It's curl and crew
• 38:03
  S7: on Moody Radio.
• 38:05
  S1: Got a question for you, Ali. Take it away.
• 38:07
  S3: We're talking about discipleship this week, so we're asking you
• 38:09
  S3: more than just sharing their faith. Who showed you what
• 38:13
  S3: it looked like to walk with Jesus? 805 55 7898.
• 38:19
  S3: Let's kick it off with Tyler calling in this morning
• 38:21
  S3: from Chattanooga, Tennessee. Tyler, who showed you what it looked like?
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  S12: Yes. So when I was going to college at Mississippi
• 38:30
  S12: State University, I heard there was a guy discipling people
• 38:33
  S12: at the coffee house. I saw him there, sitting across
• 38:36
  S12: the table from another student teaching him the Bible. And
• 38:39
  S12: I said, hey, can I meet with you? I heard
• 38:40
  S12: you were Randy, the guy teaching the Bible, right? He said, yeah.
• 38:43
  S12: And and he he met with me. And the first
• 38:45
  S12: thing he said to me, he said, you know why
• 38:47
  S12: I do this, Tyler? And he pulled up. second Timothy
• 38:49
  S12: two two and said, A man was faithful to teach me,
• 38:53
  S12: and I want to share it with you.
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  S1: Boom, brother Randy Phillips.
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  S3: That's awesome.
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  S1: Oh, way to go, Tyler. Wow. Okay, that proves it
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  S1: right there. Well, that was worth it all.
• 39:04
  S3: I love it.
• 39:05
  S1: Seth. First time caller. Uh, Bedford, Indiana. What do you say?
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  S13: Yes, Mark. Uh, I have somebody that I went to
• 39:13
  S13: church with for about 2 or 3 weeks, and, and
• 39:16
  S13: he said that he saw something in me, and he
• 39:19
  S13: grabbed me to the side and started mentoring to me.
• 39:23
  S13: And I started going to weekly class with him. And
• 39:26
  S13: he taught me that waking up every morning, reading the
• 39:29
  S13: Bible or listening to the scripture or listen to songs
• 39:33
  S13: just fills your cup and I tell you it does.
• 39:36
  S13: It has done that so much for me. I just
• 39:38
  S13: want to give a shout out to Mark Blake. He
• 39:41
  S13: has been such a Bible thumper for me. He's been
• 39:45
  S13: really helping me out.
• 39:46
  S1: Yeah, Bible thumping gets a bad rap. Because you know what?
• 39:49
  S1: You need to thump a Bible. You gotta thump it.
• 39:52
  S1: Way to go, Seth. Boom, brother. Uh, taking your calls.
• 39:56
  S1: 800 555. 78. 98. More than just sharing their faith.
• 40:01
  S1: Who showed you how to walk like Jesus? It's called
• 40:04
  S1: disciple making. Let's get one more in here. Ally.
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  S3: Amanda. First time caller from Chattanooga, Tennessee. Well represented this morning.
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  S3: Tell us, who was it who showed you how to
• 40:14
  S3: walk like Jesus?
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  S14: Yes. My mother has always just been such an inspiring, um, like.
• 40:25
  S14: And she is battling stage four cancer and throughout throughout
• 40:30
  S14: her whole for the last six years, while she's been battling, um,
• 40:35
  S14: her cancer journey, she has always just kept a consistent
• 40:39
  S14: joy and said that nothing could fill her joy. And, um,
• 40:44
  S14: she just walks Walks with Jesus daily and she's a
• 40:47
  S14: true inspiration. Way to go. Four of her children and
• 40:51
  S14: her 14 grandchildren.
• 40:53
  S2: Boom!
• 40:55
  S1: Having a mom like that who's not just a great mama,
• 40:58
  S1: but she's a disciple. And mama. That's huge. Sister boom.
• 41:03
  S1: Taking your calls right now.
• 41:05
  S3: More than just sharing their faith. Who was it? Who
• 41:08
  S3: showed you or is showing you how to walk like Jesus?
• 41:12
  S3: 855 five 7898 Freedom Friday taking your calls 800 555 7898.
• 41:21
  S7: Helping you take the next step in your walk with Jesus.
• 41:24
  S1: God longs for us today to seek him and ask
• 41:28
  S1: him to move in ways that we never could.
• 41:30
  S7: You're listening to Carl and crew.
• 41:33
  S1: Yeah. And you, the boom crew are showing up. Showing out. Man.
• 41:37
  S1: God is on the move in lives.
• 41:39
  S3: Ali, we're asking you on this Freedom Friday. Who was it?
• 41:43
  S3: Who's showing you or has shown you what it looks
• 41:45
  S3: like to walk with Jesus. Let's go to Eric calling
• 41:49
  S3: this morning from Clay center, Kansas. Tell us, who was it?
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  S15: Oh, gosh, I was hoping I wouldn't do this.
• 41:57
  S3: Oh. It's okay.
• 41:58
  S15: Oh. Forgive me.
• 41:59
  S16: It's all right. No, no, dude.
• 42:00
  S1: Men. Men cry. As a matter of fact, let me
• 42:03
  S1: just tell you right now, you're getting the Carl and
• 42:05
  S1: Crew prize pack because you cry. So now, don't be
• 42:10
  S1: coming in here with fake tears. All right, go ahead.
• 42:12
  S15: No. I'm not. Oh, man. Uh, I'm 71 years old,
• 42:17
  S15: and in 1974, I was 26 years old. I gave
• 42:22
  S15: my life to Christ. And shortly after that, it was
• 42:25
  S15: a lay witness mission at our Methodist church. The kids
• 42:29
  S15: that came, I called ourselves kids at that time. They said,
• 42:32
  S15: you've got to come with us to our youth group
• 42:34
  S15: meeting in Abilene, Kansas, this rancher. But he he puts
• 42:39
  S15: on these youth retreats through him. He had his basement
• 42:44
  S15: full of kids in the evening. Two evenings a week.
• 42:47
  S15: Then later on, I was introduced to John Balderston, and
• 42:51
  S15: at that time he was a 7576 year old bus
• 42:55
  S15: driver slash mechanic in a small school district. Him and
• 42:59
  S15: grandma traveled and put on youth retreats at different churches
• 43:04
  S15: for two days, and it was, oh, I learned so
• 43:09
  S15: much from him. I miss him so much, but I'm missing.
• 43:13
  S15: I know where he's at. But when I say I
• 43:16
  S15: miss him, I miss his encouragement and his teaching of
• 43:20
  S15: just his and his. I got my tears from him
• 43:24
  S15: because he would cry buckets. But anyway, thank you for
• 43:27
  S15: the time.
• 43:27
  S1: But Eric, you're a good man, 71 years old, and
• 43:31
  S1: you can look back and you can point to a
• 43:33
  S1: time in a basement, in a house, two nights a
• 43:35
  S1: week and encouragement along the way. That is discipleship, and
• 43:39
  S1: we all need it in. The tears are flowing all
• 43:42
  S1: these years later. Ali.
• 43:43
  S3: It's so encouraging to hear these different like discipleship can
• 43:47
  S3: look different, right? It's the basement of someone's home who's
• 43:52
  S3: agreed to take on some kids. What did it look
• 43:55
  S3: like for you, Sheri? First time caller from Lebanon, Indiana.
• 43:59
  S3: Tell us, who was it who showed you how to
• 44:01
  S3: walk with Jesus?
• 44:03
  S14: It was my brother, my brother Dave. And he is
• 44:06
  S14: just an awesome Christian man. He never miss an opportunity
• 44:09
  S14: to pray. And right now he is in South Sudan
• 44:11
  S14: working in an orphanage. Uh, that he has been, uh,
• 44:15
  S14: been so effective with. And he's just my inspiration. And
• 44:19
  S14: just every time we're together, it's just about the Lord.
• 44:23
  S14: And I love him so much. He's been an inspiration.
• 44:26
  S1: Well, how about you? Is he an older brother?
• 44:29
  S14: He is a younger brother. He's my baby brother.
• 44:32
  S1: Oh my word, baby brother. Taking the discipleship to the fam.
• 44:37
  S1: That's awesome. How about that Sherry?
• 44:39
  S3: That's beautiful.
• 44:40
  S14: Yeah. He's awesome. I love him, and I love the Lord. And.
• 44:44
  S14: And we both just grow together. It's just so wonderful. Uh,
• 44:47
  S14: discipleship is amazing.
• 44:49
  S1: Yeah. I guarantee you, Eric, if your brother. If he
• 44:53
  S1: could get on here right now, he'd be saying, oh, no,
• 44:55
  S1: my big sister. She's the inspiration in my life. It
• 44:58
  S1: works both ways.
• 44:59
  S2: Yeah. It does.
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  S3: Sherry, thank you so much. First time caller from Indiana.
• 45:03
  S3: Really appreciate that story.
• 45:05
  S1: Uh.
• 45:05
  S2: You know, I was thinking, as we're talking about this
• 45:08
  S2: when I was, uh, young in in the faith, the
• 45:11
  S2: genuine faith, uh, you know, because when I was away
• 45:14
  S2: from God, I believed in him, but I didn't have
• 45:16
  S2: any desire to follow him. And so I didn't want
• 45:18
  S2: to do anything. And when I came to faith, I
• 45:20
  S2: kind of swung to the other side of the pendulum
• 45:22
  S2: where I wanted to follow him so much. But I
• 45:25
  S2: was also kind of being legalistic and very worried about it,
• 45:28
  S2: that I was still kind of earning a place with God.
• 45:31
  S2: And and when I messed up that it just was
• 45:33
  S2: it was the most devastating kind of uncomfortable thing. M
• 45:38
  S2: and a man named Doug discipled me, and he really
• 45:40
  S2: taught me about about the the now and not yet
• 45:44
  S2: where it's like, you know, I am forgiven. And yes,
• 45:46
  S2: I still do make mistakes, but I'm forgiven. And when
• 45:49
  S2: I pray and I talk to God about my mistakes,
• 45:51
  S2: I am forgiven. And he said to me, this thing.
• 45:54
  S2: He said, yes, pray to God for forgiveness. And he said,
• 45:57
  S2: but also once you pray and ask for forgiveness, thank
• 46:00
  S2: him that you are forgiven, because that's how true and
• 46:03
  S2: how immediate it is. You don't have to earn your
• 46:05
  S2: place back with him, you just gives it to you.
• 46:08
  S2: That was so helpful for me.
• 46:10
  S1: Yeah, that's such a beautiful thing because there's a lot
• 46:13
  S1: of people that get paralyzed with, uh. It's the paralysis
• 46:17
  S1: of overanalysis. You know what I'm saying?
• 46:19
  S2: Oh, my gosh, it's so true. It's so true.
• 46:22
  S1: Yeah, man, what a beautiful thing. Oh my word. What
• 46:26
  S1: a what a week, Ali.
• 46:27
  S3: Yeah. You know, just an encouragement. If there's someone in
• 46:29
  S3: your life, even if you didn't call in, but someone
• 46:31
  S3: in your life who really has modeled walking like Jesus
• 46:35
  S3: for you. Send him a text or pick up the
• 46:37
  S3: phone or write a letter. Or you know, and maybe,
• 46:41
  S3: you know, if they're not, if they're no longer with us,
• 46:43
  S3: they're on to their reward. Thank God for them today.
• 46:47
  S1: A men and let it be. Oh my goodness, I'm
• 46:52
  S1: going to spontaneously combust. It's like wow, freedom Friday guys.
• 46:58
  S1: Walk in that freedom and share it. Give it away.
• 47:02
  S7: Walking closer to Jesus every day. You're listening to Carl
• 47:06
  S7: and crew.
• 47:07
  S1: I can only imagine. Is a phrase that has been used.
• 47:10
  S1: For how many years would you say?
• 47:13
  S2: I can only imagine. For how long?
• 47:17
  S4: Really?
• 47:18
  S1: That's not fair, man. That's not fair. That's not right.
• 47:22
  S2: I don't know about long time.
• 47:23
  S1: What about. I can only imagine two that hasn't been
• 47:26
  S1: said very often.
• 47:28
  S2: No, no, no, not very often. Especially when it's the
• 47:31
  S2: number two and not to.
• 47:33
  S17: True, but the original song 1999.
• 47:36
  S1: 1999.
• 47:37
  S3: That song was such a classic.
• 47:40
  S17: I mean, mainstream into the early 2000. It stayed on
• 47:43
  S17: the charts.
• 47:44
  S2: I was three.
• 47:47
  S1: Oh my goodness.
• 47:50
  S3: The cool thing about that song is it became a
• 47:52
  S3: crossover classic.
• 47:54
  S17: Did it? That's what I'm saying. 1999 it was released,
• 47:57
  S17: but by the early 2000 it was mainstream all the way.
• 48:00
  S2: I didn't know.
• 48:00
  S17: That the the movie, the first movie did not come
• 48:03
  S17: out until 2018, but that song has stayed the course.
• 48:08
  S2: Yeah. That's awesome.
• 48:08
  S1: It's got staying power. Well, who in the world is
• 48:12
  S1: featured in this second release of I Can Only Imagine.
• 48:17
  S3: Not the song, but the movie.
• 48:19
  S1: The movie. I can only imagine. Two. Who in the
• 48:22
  S1: world is it? We gotta find this guy. Could somebody.
• 48:24
  S1: Could somebody find him for us?
• 48:26
  S2: Oh, look at that, I found him.
• 48:27
  S17: I'm on it.
• 48:28
  S1: Okay. Okay. Excellent. Thank you. guys. You guys are on it. Ali,
• 48:32
  S1: set it up, sister.
• 48:33
  S3: Yeah, we've got Tim Timmons joining us coming up today.
• 48:37
  S3: The released the movie I Can Only Imagine to it
• 48:40
  S3: explores the personal, heartfelt story behind the hit song that's
• 48:45
  S3: coming up here on Karl and crew.
• 48:47
  S7: He's a sports fanatic with a stat for anything you
• 48:50
  S7: can think of. Young Thunder is in the crew. It's
• 48:54
  S7: Karl and crew on Moody Radio.
• 48:57
  S3: Well, how about heading to the theater this weekend? That
• 49:00
  S3: lots of movies you could see. But there's one that
• 49:03
  S3: probably is going to stand out. Man. A Christian movie
• 49:06
  S3: on the big screen, I can only imagine. Two out
• 49:09
  S3: Today explores the personal, heartfelt story behind 2017 hit song
• 49:15
  S3: called Even If We have Tim Timmons, singer songwriter with us,
• 49:19
  S3: who spent over two decades in ministry writing songs both
• 49:23
  S3: from his personal experience. Talk about what it was like
• 49:27
  S3: to see your story on the big screen in this movie.
• 49:30
  S3: I can only imagine too.
• 49:32
  S18: Yeah, well, apparently I'm really good looking. I mean, when
• 49:35
  S18: you just see who plays me, it's like I'm. I'm
• 49:38
  S18: better than I thought. I keep telling my wife, um, no,
• 49:42
  S18: it is. It has been such a huge honor. I mean,
• 49:45
  S18: I don't take myself that serious. I take Jesus real serious,
• 49:48
  S18: but not myself. And so it's just kind of it's
• 49:50
  S18: fun to watch. And Milo has just become really close friends.
• 49:54
  S18: So just watching my friend play me. But I think
• 49:56
  S18: there's a piece of it, you know, watching with my
• 49:58
  S18: cancer journey that I really like found compassion and empathy
• 50:01
  S18: for myself. It's like, I wish everybody could just sit
• 50:04
  S18: and watch their life.
• 50:05
  S16: Story.
• 50:05
  S18: Outside of themselves, right? I mean, like, what a gift
• 50:08
  S18: that is. That's been really special.
• 50:10
  S1: Tim, let's back up a little bit because we can
• 50:12
  S1: do something here that the movie can't actually maybe drill
• 50:15
  S1: down on. But what was it like when you first
• 50:17
  S1: got the word man that you were big time afflicted here?
• 50:21
  S1: What flashed through your brain?
• 50:23
  S18: Yeah. I mean, they gave me five years to live
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  S18: 25 years ago. Um, and there's still tumors on my
• 50:29
  S18: liver today wearing out my heart. They say. I think
• 50:33
  S18: when I first found out, uh, it was just shock. And,
• 50:37
  S18: you know, everybody goes through their own process, and that's
• 50:40
  S18: that's a whole nother book that I'll write of just
• 50:42
  S18: trying to help people in the beginning of their process,
• 50:44
  S18: of their stages of grief. But I think the greatest
• 50:48
  S18: gift of sorrow and calamity and whatever things that we're
• 50:53
  S18: going through is sobriety. I mean, it's perspective. It's like,
• 50:57
  S18: you know, not necessarily alcohol and drugs. Maybe that's what
• 50:59
  S18: it is, but it's sobriety. And just in today, like
• 51:02
  S18: I woke up again today and I write this X
• 51:05
  S18: and I've written it for so many years on my wrist.
• 51:07
  S18: That's a really big part of this movie that comes
• 51:10
  S18: out today. So people go see it. The X that
• 51:12
  S18: I write on my wrist stood for the Christ, and
• 51:14
  S18: it was just my reminder of like, Jesus, you woke
• 51:16
  S18: me up again today. I want to be sober today
• 51:20
  S18: like I want to. I want to practice what you
• 51:22
  S18: want to practice. I want to join you in what
• 51:24
  S18: you're doing. So it has really changed my life. And
• 51:29
  S18: even still, having this diagnosis and tumors in my body,
• 51:32
  S18: it's like, okay, who knows? Who knows if I get
• 51:35
  S18: tomorrow and if I do, then I will wake up
• 51:38
  S18: and join Jesus again. So that's what's been such a
• 51:40
  S18: great gift of cancer. I hate cancer, but that's been
• 51:43
  S18: a gift that God has brought through it.
• 51:45
  S3: Now that song, even if by Mercy Me, which inspired
• 51:48
  S3: the movie, I can only imagine too, that you wrote
• 51:51
  S3: this song. You said you create what you call prayers
• 51:55
  S3: set to music. Talk a little bit about what it's what.
• 51:58
  S3: It's like writing songs from a place of of pain,
• 52:01
  S3: but also deep faith in Christ.
• 52:04
  S18: Yeah, I mean, everybody who's listening. You have a gift.
• 52:07
  S18: There's something in our gifts are not for us. Right?
• 52:10
  S18: Everybody like like my my songwriting. If it's for me,
• 52:15
  S18: then I'm just. I'm not even seeing the kingdom of God.
• 52:17
  S18: I'm seeing the kingdom of Tim. And so one of
• 52:19
  S18: the gifts that I have is I get to write
• 52:21
  S18: my prayers, and I, I put them to songs. And now,
• 52:26
  S18: you know, millions of people get to pray those prayers
• 52:28
  S18: with me. So I get to help Jesus. People pray
• 52:31
  S18: all week long. And really, that's what I'm doing. And
• 52:35
  S18: I don't really care about writing more Christian music. I
• 52:37
  S18: don't know how much more of that we need, but
• 52:38
  S18: like prayers that help us follow and join Jesus. I'm
• 52:41
  S18: totally in. So that's what I get to do. And
• 52:44
  S18: that's why I write all that I write.
• 52:46
  S1: I got a lot of questions that are cropping up here,
• 52:48
  S1: but a low hanging fruit. One is what do people
• 52:52
  S1: need to know about talking? First words out of their
• 52:56
  S1: mouth when they got a friend that's come down with
• 52:59
  S1: some kind of debilitating disease, or a prognosis that is
• 53:03
  S1: bad news, man. What do they need to do? We
• 53:05
  S1: know that what they shouldn't do is slap Bible verses.
• 53:08
  S1: We get that. But what do they need to do?
• 53:11
  S18: I don't fully know. Everybody's so different, right? I've got
• 53:13
  S18: a few friends that are in the middle of it
• 53:15
  S18: right now, some of my best friends. But I think
• 53:18
  S18: Jesus people have been traditionally really bad at grief like
• 53:22
  S18: we wallpaper over grief like nobody's business. Because what we
• 53:26
  S18: say is life's really hard. But you know what? God's good.
• 53:30
  S18: And we put that butt word right in there. And
• 53:33
  S18: I'm not a big fan of the butt word. I
• 53:35
  S18: think the word and is way more helpful. Yes. So hard.
• 53:40
  S18: And God is good. And what if these two can,
• 53:43
  S18: like grief and gratitude, live in the same space? I mean,
• 53:47
  S18: Jesus held that that tension all the time, and yet
• 53:50
  S18: we kind of just wallpaper over it and we're like,
• 53:52
  S18: you know, that's why we slap Bible verses is we're like,
• 53:54
  S18: you know, it's going to be okay and or God's
• 53:56
  S18: going to do it. It's like, great, I love faith,
• 53:58
  S18: I can have faith and be sad, you know, like, yeah,
• 54:02
  S18: these don't have to be exclusive. So for me, when
• 54:05
  S18: I'm with somebody, often I'm just I practice just being
• 54:08
  S18: sad with them. Like, I just say, I'm so sorry.
• 54:12
  S18: And I'm just. I'm for you. Like, that's all sometimes
• 54:15
  S18: people really need. And the Bible verses, God can do that.
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  S18: And later, when it's right, when Jesus opens that door,
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  S18: then that's the time to do that. But you know,
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  S18: there's a sitting. Shiva is the Hebrews would use this
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  S18: this concept in the early Bible times of sitting Shiva.
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  S18: And when somebody was grieving, they would just do whatever
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  S18: that person did. If that person needed to eat, they
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  S18: each other's grief, I think we'd have a much healthier community.
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  S3: Okay, so the movie I can only imagine to an
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• 54:53
  S3: I can only imagine, uh, and this one is going
• 54:56
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• 54:59
  S3: mentioned Milo Ventimiglia, who many people will know from This
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  S3: Is Us, his fame, their.
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  S18: Gilmore Girls, all.
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  S16: These things. Yeah, man. He's he's a total stud.
• 55:10
  S3: And he plays you. So just from the pure entertainment value,
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  S3: you go and watch a movie. You want to. You
• 55:17
  S3: want to feel something, but you also want to just
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  S3: enjoy those two hours. This is an entertaining movie, right?
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  S18: It is. I think you will laugh a whole bunch
• 55:26
  S18: people and then you'll probably cry a whole bunch. It's
• 55:29
  S18: I'm so proud of this movie and what it's actually doing.
• 55:32
  S18: And for people to see it in a theater, there's
• 55:34
  S18: something really special about people not feeling alone. There's so
• 55:39
  S18: many times when we feel alone, but I think this movie,
• 55:41
  S18: even by the end, we get to do some things
• 55:43
  S18: like collectively as a whole theater. So I would encourage
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• 55:48
  S18: it's actually really special to do something like this and
• 55:51
  S18: be a part of the church together.
• 55:53
  S16: You, Tim.
• 55:54
  S1: You said a hook right there, right at the end
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  S1: of that thing.
• 55:57
  S16: Yeah. We're doing something. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know.
• 55:59
  S18: It's true, but it's like there's something so special. And
• 56:02
  S18: at the end, there's something. You guys may not have
• 56:04
  S18: seen it yet, but there's something at the end that's
• 56:06
  S18: really special for people, like for the whole, for the
• 56:09
  S18: whole cinema to do together. It's actually it's really, really beautiful.
• 56:13
  S18: So yeah, you know.
• 56:15
  S1: I want to tell you something. I was around Tim
• 56:17
  S1: briefly when I was teaching a bit at a little
• 56:21
  S1: church called Mariners Church, and Tim Timmons was leading worship.
• 56:24
  S1: And you know what, bro? I want to tell you something.
• 56:27
  S1: You impacted thousands of people there who would have thunk
• 56:31
  S1: what happened?
• 56:32
  S18: Happened, right?
• 56:33
  S16: Huh?
• 56:33
  S18: Right. I mean, yeah, yeah. I quit working for God
• 56:37
  S18: 15 years ago. I quit working for him. I've worked
• 56:39
  S18: for him my whole life, and it, uh, it was exhausting,
• 56:43
  S18: so I quit. I turned in my papers and everything,
• 56:45
  S18: and I just said, Jesus for the rest of my days.
• 56:47
  S18: I will never work for you again, but I will
• 56:49
  S18: join you in anything that you're doing. So if you
• 56:51
  S18: want to open up doors that are best for your kingdom,
• 56:53
  S18: I will walk through that. If I'm just supposed to
• 56:55
  S18: work at Starbucks, which is amazing, then I'll work at
• 56:57
  S18: Starbucks and I'll join you there. So that's really my
• 57:00
  S18: favorite part of this movie coming out. It's like I
• 57:02
  S18: didn't open any doors. Jesus keeps opening doors. What's best
• 57:05
  S18: for his kingdom, not mine. So that's like my favorite
• 57:08
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• 57:08
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• 57:51
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  S1: Our Olympic correspondent. It's 8:00 central time. Cathy is with us. Right?
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  S1: We need some theme music.
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  S2: Yeah. Hold on. Give me two.
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  S2: And here you are.
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  S20: Good morning.
• 1:02:32
  S1: All right. What do we need to know?
• 1:02:35
  S20: So there are 60 minutes in a hockey game and
• 1:02:38
  S20: 57 minutes and 56 seconds into the game. Everyone thought
• 1:02:44
  S20: the Canadian women would win the gold, but in the
• 1:02:48
  S20: final two minutes, the U.S. women sent the game into
• 1:02:51
  S20: overtime and then scored.
• 1:02:54
  S19: So that's exciting. Cathy.
• 1:02:58
  S3: There were the our American women did really well yesterday
• 1:03:02
  S3: all the way around. Talk about what else happened.
• 1:03:06
  S20: Um, well, it's been. Well, first, let's finish hockey. You know,
• 1:03:09
  S20: the women's U.S. team has medaled in every Olympics since
• 1:03:13
  S20: the event was introduced in 98. I think you called
• 1:03:16
  S20: that domination. Um, one of those women said, my grandma
• 1:03:21
  S20: always told me that girls don't play hockey. Well, it
• 1:03:24
  S20: turns out they grow up into women and they play
• 1:03:26
  S20: hockey and they win gold medals.
• 1:03:29
  S19: Love it.
• 1:03:30
  S1: Yeah, it's just great. And that overtime goal. That's the
• 1:03:33
  S1: only I didn't see the one that tied it with
• 1:03:35
  S1: the with like just a couple of minutes left in regulation.
• 1:03:38
  S1: But the one that they won with in overtime. Oh
• 1:03:41
  S1: my word. It was absolutely beautiful. Little move to the left.
• 1:03:45
  S1: Little juke to the right. Hockey puck between the skate
• 1:03:48
  S1: and the and the hockey stick of Canada. And then
• 1:03:53
  S1: tapped right into the net. Oh it was a beautiful
• 1:03:56
  S1: it was a beautiful score. Um. Awesome highlights. All right.
• 1:03:59
  S1: What else do we need to know, Cathy?
• 1:04:01
  S20: So, you know, it's been 24 years since team USA
• 1:04:05
  S20: won gold in women's single figure skating, but Alysa Liu
• 1:04:09
  S20: changed that. Still, sportsmanship rules even though her score was
• 1:04:14
  S20: guaranteed to give her a medal despite all the stakes,
• 1:04:18
  S20: she sat at the Rinkside at the sideline and clapped
• 1:04:21
  S20: and cheered on her silver and bronze winning Japanese competitors.
• 1:04:26
  S20: And Carl, I think you have some backstory on Alissa
• 1:04:29
  S20: for us.
• 1:04:29
  S1: Oh my goodness. Well, I they kept saying, you know
• 1:04:33
  S1: this girl has she came back. She came back. So
• 1:04:36
  S1: I'm like, well came back from what? Somebody tell us
• 1:04:39
  S1: what's going on. And they didn't say what she came
• 1:04:41
  S1: back from. And probably because the story is a little
• 1:04:44
  S1: bit crazy. But her dad, Tiananmen Square, happened in China
• 1:04:49
  S1: back in the day. He immigrated to get away from it.
• 1:04:52
  S1: I don't know all the details around that, but all
• 1:04:54
  S1: I know is that when she was marching toward, I think,
• 1:04:56
  S1: the Olympics four years ago, was she in the Olympics
• 1:04:59
  S1: four years ago was just World Cup stuff.
• 1:05:03
  S20: Hard questions. You know the rule on that.
• 1:05:06
  S19: Okay. All right.
• 1:05:07
  S1: So anyway, whatever it was, China was actually touching base
• 1:05:11
  S1: with her stateside. So much so the State Department had
• 1:05:15
  S1: to get 24 over seven security around her family. Her
• 1:05:18
  S1: dad and herself. That's not good. And she got burned out.
• 1:05:23
  S1: And that probably was a contributing factor. She walked away
• 1:05:27
  S1: from the sport and said, I want to have friends.
• 1:05:29
  S1: I want to have fun. She set down the skates.
• 1:05:32
  S1: And would you believe the rest of the story is this.
• 1:05:34
  S1: She went skiing with some friends and loved the beauty
• 1:05:37
  S1: of kind of turning on skis, and it reminded her
• 1:05:40
  S1: of the skates. Picked him up in 2024 just to
• 1:05:44
  S1: go have fun and thought, no, my joy is coming
• 1:05:49
  S1: back for this sport and the rest is history.
• 1:05:51
  S19: Love that.
• 1:05:52
  S20: Wow.
• 1:05:53
  S19: I love that.
• 1:05:54
  S3: Comeback.
• 1:05:55
  S20: That's incredible. Yeah.
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  S19: Okay.
• 1:05:58
  S20: Cathy Did any of you see the women's moguls finals?
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  S20: I did, you know, these athletes mogul it down the slope,
• 1:06:05
  S20: do a flip off a ramp, moguls some more, and
• 1:06:08
  S20: then they slide across the finish line upright and fast.
• 1:06:12
  S20: So moguls.
• 1:06:13
  S1: More moguls. More. Yeah. I gotta tell you, it's a young.
• 1:06:18
  S1: It's a young person's sport because your knees are getting
• 1:06:21
  S1: blasted through those moguls. But what, uh, what's the outcome?
• 1:06:26
  S20: So two Americans, Lumley and Cough, upset the field and
• 1:06:29
  S20: brought home the gold and the silver.
• 1:06:32
  S19: Woo!
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  S2: Go, America!
• 1:06:34
  S19: All right, Cathy, what's.
• 1:06:36
  S3: The medal count?
• 1:06:37
  S20: Um, our medal count for today is, I said, our
• 1:06:41
  S20: medal count. You know, even though when I'm on the slope,
• 1:06:44
  S20: I always avoid the black diamond. Difficult runs. But anyway,
• 1:06:49
  S20: our medal count today is, um, second place with 27 medals.
• 1:06:54
  S20: Nine gold. Italy's right behind us with 26 medals, nine
• 1:06:58
  S20: gold and Norway is still smoking everyone with 34 medals
• 1:07:02
  S20: and 16 gold.
• 1:07:04
  S19: Oh, boy. Yeah.
• 1:07:05
  S3: And then the last couple days before this whole thing
• 1:07:08
  S3: wraps on Sunday, I guess hockey. We have to look
• 1:07:12
  S3: forward to a big hockey match up. Anything else in
• 1:07:15
  S3: these closing days?
• 1:07:16
  S20: Yeah, I was just watching men. Aerials. Finals. Um, you know,
• 1:07:20
  S20: my new favorite event just ended. Also women's cross, which
• 1:07:24
  S20: is considered a contact sport. You got to go look
• 1:07:27
  S20: that up. And, um, and there's so much more today.
• 1:07:31
  S20: But I do want to give a shout out to Janet,
• 1:07:34
  S20: a potential World Cup boom crew correspondent and Moody alumni
• 1:07:38
  S20: who's been feeding me content all day and night. Thank you, Janet,
• 1:07:42
  S20: and the two most Olympic people in my life, my
• 1:07:46
  S20: mom and my dad, who happens to be a new believer.
• 1:07:50
  S20: But I hope you have Olympic caliber people in your
• 1:07:53
  S20: faith and your family and your life who help you
• 1:07:56
  S20: be the best, most Christlike version of you. So until
• 1:08:00
  S20: I answer the next call to report. Ciao.
• 1:08:03
  S3: Thank you so much, Cathy. Gold medal for Cathy. Come on.
• 1:08:09
  S1: You have Olympic level people in your life.
• 1:08:13
  S2: Come on. Go get some.
• 1:08:14
  S3: If you don't. Hello? Man these updates. That was the final,
• 1:08:19
  S3: last and final call. And crew. Winter Olympic correspondent update
• 1:08:23
  S3: from Cathy. And we are so grateful.
• 1:08:26
  S2: That's sad.
• 1:08:27
  S1: Yeah, it is kind of sad.
• 1:08:29
  S2: That was a good, good little time we had.
• 1:08:31
  S1: Take your vitamins, Cathy. We're going to need you for
• 1:08:34
  S1: years and years.
• 1:08:35
  S3: Summer. Two years. Oh, yeah.
• 1:08:37
  S2: Summer Olympics.
• 1:08:38
  S3: I love that someone else was, like, helping behind the scenes.
• 1:08:41
  S3: I know, like, she had her own personal producer. Yeah.
• 1:08:44
  S1: Who's Janet out there dishing her the goods?
• 1:08:46
  S3: Go, Janet. She had her own super di like. Like
• 1:08:49
  S3: she does for us.
• 1:08:51
  S17: That was so great.
• 1:08:52
  S3: That's amazing.
• 1:08:53
  S17: Thank you.