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2/9/26: Trump Posts Obama Ape Video, Superbowl AI Ads, Bad Bunny Reactions, Dan Osborn & MORE · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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  Speaker 2: All right, guys, So Trump really on doing himself over
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  Speaker 2: on truth Social hosting a video that starts with a
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  Speaker 2: batchit election conspiracy and ends with a brazenly racist depiction
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  Speaker 2: of former President Obama and Michelle Obama.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and take a look at that.
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  Speaker 2: So this is the batchit election conspiracy part of it
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  Speaker 2: where I don't know, you know, they're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Some new theory that I've never even heard before that.
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  Speaker 2: When they stop counting and then those you know, ballots
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  Speaker 2: flood in blah blah blah. This of course, coming amidst
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  Speaker 2: the seizure of ballots down in Fulton County and Trump
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  Speaker 2: making all sorts of wild comments, and then here you go,
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  Speaker 2: there is Michelle Obama and Barack Obama, you know, in
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  Speaker 2: this just undeniably racist depiction. This was apparently part that
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  Speaker 2: piece right at the end was part of some lion
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  Speaker 2: King video that included you know, this depiction here. So
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  Speaker 2: there was actually some reaction from Republicans on this. So
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  Speaker 2: for whom it was, you know, even for them, a
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  Speaker 2: bridge too far. Initially, the White House puts out a
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  Speaker 2: defense of this tweet, let's put this up on the screen,
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  Speaker 2: and tries to shift blame.
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  Speaker 3: So they say the White House is to leave the
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  Speaker 3: apes video.
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  Speaker 2: Any person familiar tells me President Trump did not see
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  Speaker 2: the video legitimately didn't.
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  Speaker 3: A staffer posted it.
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  Speaker 2: For what it's worth, only a small handful of staffers
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  Speaker 2: have access to his truth social accounts. So that was
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  Speaker 2: an initial line form the White House, like, oh, Trump
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  Speaker 2: didn't it wasn't him, it.
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  Speaker 3: Was a staffer. They didn't see that part. At the end.
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  Speaker 2: Trump had no idea about this video, et cetera. And
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  Speaker 2: the pressure let's put the C three up on the screen.
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  Speaker 2: The pressure came from. There were maybe like roughly ten
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  Speaker 2: Republicans in the Senate, in the House who expressed some
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  Speaker 2: sort of upset about this, perhaps the most notably Senator
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  Speaker 2: Tim Scott said praying it was fake because it's the
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  Speaker 2: most racist thing I've seen out of this White House.
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  Speaker 2: The President should remove it. And then we have this
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  Speaker 2: New York Times tear sheet that gets into some more
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  Speaker 2: of the criticism here. You know, you had Thomas Massey
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  Speaker 2: actually yesterday when he was doing the Sunday Show rounds,
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  Speaker 2: also saying it needed to be deleted, that they needed
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  Speaker 2: to apologize to the Obamas over this, et cetera New
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  Speaker 2: York Times analysis saying here that you know, sometimes even
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  Speaker 2: this president can cross the line. Let's put the next
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  Speaker 2: one up on the screen. We've got this defense from
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  Speaker 2: pastor Mark Burns, who was closely affiliated with President Trump,
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  Speaker 2: who is himself black. So he said, I just spoke
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  Speaker 2: directly with President Trump regarding the offensive Obama ape video
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  Speaker 2: that circulated online. The President assured me clearly and nonequivocally,
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  Speaker 2: he did not post it. Okay, So that's the line
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  Speaker 2: still coming out here. He understands the painful and racist
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  Speaker 2: history in America of depicting African Americans as apes, attactic
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  Speaker 2: long used by white supremacists to demean black intelligence and humanity.
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  Speaker 2: He knows this is wrong, offensive, and unacceptable. Present made
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  Speaker 2: it clear to me this post was made by a
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  Speaker 2: staffer and not by him. My recommendation the President was
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  Speaker 2: direct and firm. The staffer should be fired immediately. The
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  Speaker 2: President should publicly condemn this action. This kind of insensitive
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  Speaker 2: and racist communication is not reflect the heart, values or
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  Speaker 2: leadership of the President of the United States, nor does
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  Speaker 2: it represent the America we are striving to build. So
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  Speaker 2: you can see they're trying to craft this narrative about Oh,
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  Speaker 2: Trump didn't have anything to do. Is this staffer and
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  Speaker 2: it was just at the end and he had no
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  Speaker 2: idea blah blah blah, And who jumps in to blow
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  Speaker 2: up that entire narrative coming from the White House but
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  Speaker 2: Trump himself.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and take a list of.
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  Speaker 1: That the number of Republicans they're calling on you to
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  Speaker 1: apologize for that post.
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  Speaker 3: Is that something you're.
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  Speaker 4: Going to do.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I didn't make a mistake. I mean, if I'd
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  Speaker 5: look at a lot of thousands of things, and I
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  Speaker 5: looked at the beginning of it, it was fine, and
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  Speaker 5: they had that one post, and I guess it was
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  Speaker 5: a takeoff by the way a lot of people were covered.
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  Speaker 5: If you look at where it came from, a lot
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  Speaker 5: of I guess it was a takeoff of the Lion King,
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  Speaker 5: and certainly it was a very strong post in terms
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  Speaker 5: of voter fraud. Nobody knew that that was in the end.
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  Speaker 5: If they would have looked, they would have seen it,
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  Speaker 5: and probably they would have had the sense to take
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  Speaker 5: it down. But that was a takeoff of the Lion King,
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  Speaker 5: and a lot of people were covered, one different in
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  Speaker 5: different positions. So when I spoke to Tim Scott, he
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  Speaker 5: was great. Tim is a great guy. He understood that
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  Speaker 5: one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 3: So not only is I didn't make a mistake.
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  Speaker 2: I looked at the beginning of it, So this idea
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  Speaker 2: was a stab or no, he's saying, No, I looked
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  Speaker 2: at it. I watched it. I loved the election fraud part.
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  Speaker 2: That was great, he says. Then he looked at the
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  Speaker 2: end and it's just a take off on the Lion King.
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  Speaker 2: You know, maybe if we had looked a little closely,
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  Speaker 2: he might not oppose it. But it was just a
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  Speaker 2: Lake off on the Lion King. I made no mistake here,
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  Speaker 2: there's no problem, and Tim Scott is cool with it.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the words of Trump himself. October twenty second, twenty fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: The young intern who accidentally did a retweet apologizes that's
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  Speaker 1: so it's all there. I mean, the only defense is
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  Speaker 1: that he was actually well posting a what is it
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  Speaker 1: the crazy election fraud video right, which happened to have
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  Speaker 1: this AutoPlay at the end. I do think that this
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  Speaker 1: is a good view into the current government and actually
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  Speaker 1: why people have such difficulty trusting literally anything they say
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  Speaker 1: because the TikTok. One thing we forgot is that Caroline
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  Speaker 1: Levitt actually did defend the original video, because clearly she
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  Speaker 1: had not gotten to the point where they were going
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  Speaker 1: to disavow it. Caroline Levitt was like, it was a
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  Speaker 1: satirical Lion King thing. You guys have no sense of humor.
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  Speaker 1: And then immediately afterwards, Tim Scott, Roger Wicker and all
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  Speaker 1: these other people posts. They're like, oh, this is terrible.
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  Speaker 1: Tim Scott calls a president, and then the leaks came
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  Speaker 1: out and they're like, well, unequivocally, he didn't see it right,
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  Speaker 1: And so they're like he didn't see it. The staffer
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  Speaker 1: who did it apologize. From what I know, and I
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  Speaker 1: actually asked, there are only three people who have actual
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  Speaker 1: nighttime access to the Truth Social It is Trump, Dan Scavino,
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  Speaker 1: and then his aid I think her name is Natalie Johnson.
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  Speaker 1: Those are the only three people who have any access
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  Speaker 1: to the truth Social account also specifically at night. Is
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  Speaker 1: it more likely that those two aides Scavino, who I
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  Speaker 1: think just got married, and then his younger aid is
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  Speaker 1: the one that's scrolling on truth Social and reposting hundreds
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  Speaker 1: of things which we happened to see from Trump every
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  Speaker 1: single night. Yeah, what's the more likely story than all
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  Speaker 1: of this? I do think it's interesting that he deleted it. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: if you had asked me at the very beginning, I'd
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  Speaker 1: be like, no, they're gonna defend this thing to the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea that the New York Times piece
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  Speaker 1: it kind of you know, showed you the whole like
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  Speaker 1: immune from politics. One thing that I think is beginning
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  Speaker 1: to sink in for the White House is that batshit
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  Speaker 1: behavior like this, because again, the only defense is guys
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  Speaker 1: who is just posting an election front video, which I
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  Speaker 1: do believe. By the way, considering what happened this Epstein
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  Speaker 1: affordability now Iran, they clearly are in a very defensive posture.
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  Speaker 1: I think they know things are bad. Oh and Ice,
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  Speaker 1: I forgot eyes obviously, that was a number of what
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  Speaker 1: preceded the Epstein story. Two weeks of Ice shootings and
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  Speaker 1: stories literally across the country where Trump bucked sent Tom
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  Speaker 1: Homan basically surrendered in Minneapolis. And now you've got this
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  Speaker 1: now currently then you had the Epstein situation. Now you've
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  Speaker 1: got a bad news cycle again that just continues and
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem to go away. I have not seen the
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  Speaker 1: White House this weekend quite some time. Like this is
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  Speaker 1: the weakest I have ever seen the White House. I
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  Speaker 1: would never And by the way, that's why I think
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  Speaker 1: Trump refused to apologize, because his instinct is always never
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  Speaker 1: to give in. But oh and then blinking on the
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  Speaker 1: Iran talks. Remember, I mean there's a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 1: here where I haven't seen them this on the back
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  Speaker 1: foot like quite a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean also you have the dynamic with
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  Speaker 2: Republicans where now we're heading into the midterms. Yes, right,
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  Speaker 2: there was another actually there was just another election that
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  Speaker 2: was really bad for them to really you know, massive
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  Speaker 2: shifts towards Democrats. There was one down in Louisiana as well,
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  Speaker 2: where the Republicans actually thought they had in this House,
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  Speaker 2: like state House seat down in Louisiana.
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  Speaker 3: It's a Trump district.
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  Speaker 2: Louisiana has some of these places that used to vote
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  Speaker 2: for Democrats locally and then they vote for Republicans nationally.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that realignment has obviously completely had they thought
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  Speaker 2: that they would be able to pick up this seat,
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  Speaker 2: and no, it was a Democratic absolutely blowout.
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  Speaker 3: So they're looking at these things.
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  Speaker 2: They're looking at what happened in Texas, They're looking at
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  Speaker 2: the polls. Number of Republicans who are in even somewhat
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  Speaker 2: vulnerable seats are going like, I don't know about all this,
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  Speaker 2: and also reckoning with like Trump is not going to
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  Speaker 2: be around forever. So you have that going on in
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  Speaker 2: the background here too.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: There was something like ten to twelve Republicans who said
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  Speaker 2: something which on the one hand, is pathetic. It's pathetic,
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  Speaker 2: right given the content of the entire video from the
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  Speaker 2: election fraud nonsense, and then of course the like brazen
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  Speaker 2: racist part of the video. On the other hand, how
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  Speaker 2: many things have we seen, especially with Trump's like post
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  Speaker 2: or uncouth comments or whatever, where any number of Republicans
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  Speaker 2: comes out and says so, you know, that coupled with
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  Speaker 2: the fact that they at least felt the need to
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  Speaker 2: do some kind of damage control on it and ultimately
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  Speaker 2: delete it, is different than what we've seen from this
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  Speaker 2: from this Trump two point zero in particular.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why I think this is the story because
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, Wow, when's the last time Donald Trump apologized
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  Speaker 1: or deleted anything? And I think they again, also the
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: Republicans who spoke Tim Scott, okay, whatever, but let's think
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  Speaker 1: about something, Roger Wicker. I mean, these are people you
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: don't hear of, right, but who are actually very powerful
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: in the US Senate. When those people start to throw fits,
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: it wasn't just Tim Scott, Susan Collins and Lisa Mcowson
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: like the typical crew. It was people who are powerful,
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  Speaker 1: people will have a decent hold in the United States Senate.
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: And I think one of the things that the White
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: House is now grappling with is social media. So if
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  Speaker 1: you were to take a poll right now for the
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: same social media vibe kind of stuff that helped Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump win the election in twenty twenty four, let's check
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  Speaker 1: back in. I mean, I'm asking everybody who watches this show,
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: check your friends' Instagram stories. What's it run in ninety ten?
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: Whenever comes to liberal versus conservative content, or let's call
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: this anti Trump versus pro Trump content. I mean, the
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: pro Trump stuff seems dead on arrival to me, especially
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: like a cultural vibe base level. This is exactly the
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: type of thing which I mean, it was already going
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  Speaker 1: pretty viral because I mean, the screen grab is like insane, right,
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  Speaker 1: like of the literal Obama's portrayed as apes. That is
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: literally like a post that could just rock it all
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: around the world. And I do think that this is
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: significant enough of a story in the context of all
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: of the back downs that we've seen from Donald Trump
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: so far. And I do think part of the problem
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  Speaker 1: is that there's an entire ecosystem on Twitter. Of course,
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: because what happened immediately after the post came out, everybody
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: defended it. Everybody was like zoom right, because they assumed
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: that they that the.
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  Speaker 3: Right would do.
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  Speaker 1: And then it's funny because the White House is the
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  Speaker 1: one which is backing way. But remember, everything works in incentives,
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: and the incentive structure right now is to never apologize.
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  Speaker 1: We'll always defend. And it's you know, when you have
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: to deal with national politics and not a bunch of
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: people on Twitter who are like posting all the time,
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: you're actually in a different universe. I really, I really
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: think the right has the same problem the left had
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: with Twitter for years. I absolutely one believed that.
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  Speaker 2: And I saw something recently about like the you know,
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: the content liberal versus conservative on a variety of social
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: media platforms, and Twitter, of the mainstream ones, not like
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: true social but like the mainstream social media platforms, was
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: the one that had the most conservative content, and so,
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: you know, and that's a place where Soccer and I
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: spent a lot of time in terms of.
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: Preferred news show, et cetera.
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: And so you know, even I think we get like
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: a distorted view of things because it is much more
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  Speaker 2: skewed right than other platforms. And even Twitter is not
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: nearly as conservative in all of the posting as it
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: was at the peak of you know, of pro Trump sentiment.
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: One more and this will help us transition to the
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: super Bowl block. You know, there's this whole thing a
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: free out about the Bad Bunny halftime show blah blah blah,
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: and Trump posted about it. We'll get to that in
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: a moment, but I thought this was interesting. So Jake
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: Paul posts this anti Bad Bunny tweet. He says, purposely
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: turning off the halftime show. Let's rally together and show
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: big corporations they can't just do whatever they want without consequences,
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: which equals viewership for them.
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: You are their benefit. Realize you have power.
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: Turn off this halftime A fake American citizen performing who
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: publicly hates America, I cannot support that. And then so
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: I saw that last night, and this morning I wake
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: up to Jake Paul doing all sorts of like like
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: tweeting about.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you didn't understand what I'm met about fake America,
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: Like I actually love Puerto Rico blah blah.
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: And I know he moved there for tax advantages, by
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: the way, which is like, you know, crazy, But I
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: saw his own brother come out and be like, ye,
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: I love my brother, but.
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: I disagree with him.
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  Speaker 2: I think Puerto Rico's great, and I think it's awesome
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: that they were able to celebrate their heritage.
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  Speaker 1: So first of all, they don't give a shit about
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, So that's kind of course. Yeah, the only
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: reason they moved there is could get free crypto capital
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: ka it's google it if you don't know what I'm talking.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, But I mean the point was to your point
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: about like the vibe shift.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, you know, do you think that this Jake.
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: Paul tweets in the past that he would have felt
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  Speaker 2: the need to like in multiple tweets afterally he didn't
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  Speaker 2: understand when I met you know, when I really meant
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: it this way, phrased it poorly, blah blah blah, and
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  Speaker 2: his brother coming out and being like, I don't I
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: don't agree with that at all.
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: Very different cultural.
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it now. I think there will be
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: a tremendous backlash year. The UFC fight at the White
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: House interests massive. They were right in high they had
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: a little paramount deal Dana White obviously you know him,
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: and Trumper all Freddy's. I think that the U I
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: think it will massively backfar. This is just me I'm
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: calling it now. Though I can just I can sense
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: and I can smell where things are going. I don't
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: think it's going to work out well for them. Okay,
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: let's get to Calshi. So yesterday was Super Bowl Sunday,
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: and naturally, in the state of the United States that
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: we are in today, some billion or so dollars was
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: bet by Americans. Tens of millions decided to place their wagers,
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: some of them on prediction market sketually operating potentially illegally.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: More Perfect Union did a good deep dive into it.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: Traders on Calshi and polymarket are betting nearly one billion
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: dollars on this upcoming Super Bowl. They're betting on who
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: will win, will in video run an advertisement, what song
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: bad Money will open with, will someone say the phrase
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: now here's a guy, Will Timothy Shalomy be there? And
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: they're even betting on the coin toss. Oh sorry, not betting.
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: I mean they're buying event contracts, they're trading assets. It's
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: investing really definitely not gambling. They want you to believe
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: that you can make money on these investments. Never mind
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: the fact that seventy percent of people lose money and
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: most of the profit is taken in by an insanely
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: small number of traders zero point zero four percent. Second,
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: gambling in the United States is more strictly regulated than investing.
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: If this is gambling, they have to deal with state
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: gambling commissions, they have to follow those laws and build
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: in protections. Since this is apparently investing, they're instead regulated
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: at the federal level, which means fewer rules in general,
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: bypassing state laws, just paying normal corporate income taxes and
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: putting gambling in front of Americans everywhere.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: And wouldn't you know that that strategy has been tremendously successful.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: It turns out that the Calshi super Bowl market alone
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: was some nine hundred million dollars as of yesterday, So
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: that was just on Calshi, not even including polymarket. I'm
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: still waiting on data from the American Gaming Association on
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: the total amount spent on the super Bowl. It's a
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: bit sketchy. Last year they said sixteen billion was wagered.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: This year they're predicting one billion. That doesn't seem to
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: line up, so it might. I don't know which number
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: is yet going to be correct. So I just want
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: to lead with if Calshi alone is a billion, you
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: can be will you be willing to bet that DraftKings fan, duel, polymarket,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: all of that is going to be much much more
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: than that. But this gets to this entire idea of
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: regulation and rot in our society. So if you happen
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: to watch the Super Bowl, yes, I know that a
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: lot of the discourse was around around bed Bunny and
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: all of that, But the one that's really stuck out
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: to me, mac if we have this tweet is from
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Andrew Solander, who says, my takeaway from the Super Bowl
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: is that the entire American economy is being propped up
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: by AI, weight loss drugs, cryptocurrency and gambling. That's basically it.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: If you watch oh sorry, lays Chips, by the way,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Lays Chips and then Duncan all right, I mean, out
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: of all of that Duncan lily subjectionable. I mean, just
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: take a look at what we are. It's like obesity, gambling,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: AI data centers. And I texted this to a friend
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: and he goes, well, not technic, correct. Those are just
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: the industries that make enough money to buy Super Bowl ads.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: The rest of the economy is healthcare, which exists entirely
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: because of regulatory capture and the fact that we don't
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: remove subsidies. So actually, no, the healthcare industry is doing
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: really well. They don't need to advertise for you because
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: they have a gun to your head to force you
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: to buy their product. So that's that's that's the United States.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: This is America. Yeah, we're in We will be there soon.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Don't worry. This administration will help them.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: And it just, I mean, it just cheapens everything, you know,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Like can we say with confidence that none of the
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: players in the game or on the take on any
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: of this. And because remember we're not talking about just
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: you know overall that who's.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Gonna win and buy how much? It's like all of
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: these little micro prop.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Bets that you can place that make it so easy
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: to game. And we've seen this, you know, time and
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: time again. We've seen indict indictments for point shaving and
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: these sorts of things like it just totally destroys any
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: sense that what you're watching is really free and fair competition.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: And then on the other side of it, like it
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: ruins lives. You know, you've done some of the best
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: research and highlight it. Thank you of the way that
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: you know they rig it. You can't win, if you
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: win too much, they kick you off, like it is
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: the definition of a rigged game. And how that is
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: legal is continues to be insane to me.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Look, look at the number points zero four percent. Be honest,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: are you in the point zero four percent? Or are
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: you a loser? Okay, I don't understand the willful the
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: willful participation in your own bankruptcy, but that's what these
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: people try to sell you. And to your point, by
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: the way, you know, even those point zero four percent,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: how many of these people are just insider traders. So
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: let's give you a good, good example here, all right,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: And to be clear, this is you know, my own analysis.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Nothing is confirmed. Calcy or Polymarket has not yet offered comment.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and put D eight up here on
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the screen. So you have a person here who is
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: speculated to be an insider Again, we don't know that
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: yet for sure. Who bet almost exclusively on halftime event contracts?
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: For example, will Lady Gaga perform during the super Bowl
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: halftime show? Will Travis Scott perform, Will Drake perform, Will
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Balven perform? Will Ricky Martin be at the super Bowl?
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Will Cardi b be at the super Bowl? Will post
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Malone perform? He just happened to bet in exactly the
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: right way to net a profit of some sixteen seventeen, yes,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: six about seventeen thousand dollars. Now you know that information.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: It's not just bad bunny who happens to have that
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: stage hands, you know, you know, there's probably what hundreds
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: of people behind the scenes, all the guys carrying the
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: trees or who were dressed up as a tree right right,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: So they probably do because journy rehearsal. My point is
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: just like, is there any regulation around this? Yeah? I
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: get I know it's only seventeen thousand, sure, but when
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: you come by in this with Venezuela, with all what
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: you just talked, I mean, the amount of prop bets
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: are insane. I was watching the broadcast before the Super Bowl.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: You had live draftking prop bet odds beneath the broadcast,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Like this is baked into the product. How can you
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: possibly ensure that there is no you know, manipulation or
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: any real integrity of the game. And especially now I
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: guess it's basketball season, now that the NFL is officially done, Well,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: let's put D three up here on the screen. Giannis,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: one of the most famous you know, basketball players, is
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: now going to be an investor in Calshie. He says,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: we all on calsh Now everyone is online. The internet
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: is full of opinions. I decided it was time to
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: make some on my own. Today, I'm joining Calshee as
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: a shareholder. We all on calsh Now. Okay, so you
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: have one of the flagship players in basketball joining Calshie.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Now let's then remember that Betts literally on him his
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: team games that he will be involved in. He will
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: be a direct participant in terms of the potential profits
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: off of set game. There have been multiple markets which
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: have been very swingy. Let's put D three up here
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: on the screen, for example, involving his own trade rumors,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: which again he could now be a potential profit profit
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: off of. You can I mean when we are betting,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: look the heads and tails, that's been a bet for forever.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: We're not talking about that. We're talking about I sent
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: you this people on poly market. We're sitting there betting
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the over under on the national anthem. People are out
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: there the streaker, that's a big one. Will there be
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: a streaker? You know, somebody pointed this out if I
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: because the odds weren't very good for there be a streaker,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: why would you not put as much money on as
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: you could on Streaker and then Streak, and then you
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: just take eighty percent profits. What half of that, let's say,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: goes to find the fees or hire somebody to do it.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: You know, pay some idiot out there to pay for
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ticket only six thousand bucks. Let's say
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: put one hundred thousand on it. You get eight hundred
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: grand eight to one. I mean, yeah, somebody will do it.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Remember we talked about the dildo thing. Yeah, back in
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: the wnbaight. This is every like, we cannot live like this.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: There has to be regulation and this is just the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: worst part. Like Calci and Polymarket are at the bleeding edge.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: But I want to make clear, even legal sports gambling
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: with all of these profit prop bets, it's just as bad. Like, yes,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: it's not as you know, Streaker or any of that
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: other stuff. Micro prop bets have no literally no usefulness
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: other than basically insider trading, yeah, and robbing you of
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: your money, thinking that you're so smart that you're gonna
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: be go oh JSN for two touchdowns. Yeah, let me
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: know how that one hit. I know, I literally know
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: somebody who took that back. And so that's what I'm
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: talking about. It's one of those where these guys everybody's
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: pretending that it's fun, it is enabling and creating millions
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: of gambling addicts, massively profiting all of these people. The
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: you know, the Calshy woman, She's like, I'm one of
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: the youngest billionaires in the world. I'm like, I'm not
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: fucking celebrating that. Let's discuss at it. Actually, sorry, It's
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: one of those where when we create, normalize and popularize this,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: we will create a situation where this can get totally
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: out of control mass bankruptcies. We already know that states
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: which legalize gambling not only see increasing get they actually
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: see an aggregate increase or decrease in the amount of
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: credit for everybody, just simply as a result of that.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: And then I mean intimate partner violence. People who lose
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: bets unfortunately very likely to take it out on their
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: wife like it's sickening. It massively creates a vice spiral,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: and I think that's actually the worst part.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Overwhelmingly men who are you know, who are betting. And
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: in fact, one of the things that we were reading
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: about is how women placing bets is actually a bit
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: of a red flag because usually there's sort of like
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Straws perfect, Yeah, to cover for you know, someone else
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: who's a you know, potential shark who's trying to place
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: bets that might actually hit, and god forbid we have that,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: you know, the honest one. I actually followed closely because
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Kyle's big Knicks fan, so I'm now a Knicks fan
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: by proxy. And so he's been telling me like, oh,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: we might get Jiannis and you know, they might, we
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: might trade Karl Anthony Towns and like this has been
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: an ongoing conversation and then lo and behold, like, no
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: trade happens. He's staying with Milwaukee, and all of these rumors, Well,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: we're profiting off of, oh is he going to stay?
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Is he going to go?
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: You build up all this hype on the other side
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: of like, oh, he's probably going to get traded in
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: the knix Er, probably get traded to. There were some
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: other teams that were also floated as possible locations, and
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: then you know, since you build up that expectation on
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: the other side, then the you know, the fact that
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: he stays becomes very profitable. So it's just discussing. It's
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: insane to me that an active player can sit on
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: the board of Calshi. That is so crazy to me.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: But you know, I think there's actually connection to the
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: conversation we were having about the Epstein files. Bear with me,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: because we're discussing, we're discussing how you know, there's all
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: with Lord Mandelson. There's this very clear argument to be
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: made this was insider trading, and that insider trading was
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: some significant chunk of how he was able to get
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: his wealth. And I think what the elites are offering
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: now at a time when they're trying to when they've
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: already destroyed the you know, blue collar jobs, when they've
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: already destroyed the unions, when they've gobbled up all of
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: the gains from productivity over decades, when they're promising to
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: destroy now all the white collar jobs and everything's too expensive, etc.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Rather than offering, Okay, we're gonna make it so that
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: you participate in you know, the promised economic growth from AI.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: We're going to make sure your wages go out, that
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: you have ownership in these things that you know, can
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: participate in the extraordinary wealth that we plan to create.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Instead of that, they're doing this sort of like low
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: grade democratizing of insider trading, where It's like, you know, now,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: it's not just for the Epstein class that can participate
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: in insider trading. You too might get lucky enough to
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: be one of the trees and bad Bunny's performance and
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: have some inside knowledge you can trade on, you know,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: put your whole life savings up in order to get
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: together our easily fifteen thousand dollars. That's effectively the deal
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: that is being offered. It ties back in a sense
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: to the Trump accounts, the Trump Baby accounts too, where
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: it's the same thing. It's like, well, we'll give you
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: a little stake in this casino that we call the
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: stock market. No, you're not going to have power and
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: any sort of democratic decision making. You're not going to
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: have any say in this new social contract since we're
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: just like ripping up the old one and writing a
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: new one. You're not gonna have any say in that.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: But we'll give you a little more taste of the casino,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: will make it a little bit more feasible or a
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: little bit more believable that you're going to be able
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: to hit it big with this expanded lottery, which is
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: essentially what it is. And I mean, we all know
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: the you know, the state. Lotters like these are basically
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: attacks on the poor. So people who are desperate, who
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: see no other way and like to live in the
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: fantasy of like maybe this time it's going to hit.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Maybe this is time it's going to hit.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: We're going to expand that so that more millions of
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: people get trapped in the cycle where ultimately, you know,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: the wealth is all continuing to be funnel to the top.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: But we're going to offer you a glimpse of a
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: promise that maybe you can be the one that's in
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: the Bad Bunny super Bowl halftime show and happens to
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: get this insider info that you can try.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and hand up. This is my own class bias.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I didn't notice it much until it hit my cohort
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: for sports betting. But you're right, and it's only after
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I started delving more into it and I would look
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: at lottery and I go, oh my god. I'm like,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I can't even believe that I that I wasn't aware
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: of this whole Yeah, Like, if you go to the
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Union Station DC lotto stand, it is homeless people out
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: the door, not there for warmth, They're there buy tickets.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god, I was not
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: really you know that, I'm not that in touch. I
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: guess with people who buy scratch offs, like every single day.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Now I look for it, and I can actually see
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: it everywhere. Every time you're at a seven eleven, Like
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: every time you're at a gas station, if you stop
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: or something and you go in, there's somebody there, you know,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: buying the tickets. Like and these are not even like
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: big ones, but there's something about the thrill and it
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: just dreams their finances. Unfortunately, wasn't as awake to it.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: There wasn't enough of a mass populist movement to be like, hey,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: is anyone going to take care of these people? Look
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I save them from I.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Changed on this because I have more of a like
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: libertarian social view, so I was like, oh, you know,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: adults like should be able to, you know, for their
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: informed and that's how they want to like spend their
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: money or whatever.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: They're not informed. And that's the whole point.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: That's the piece, is that this is not it's first
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: of all, it's not for infair. It's completely rigged, and
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: you are up against, like your brain is up against
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: the psychological warfare of these trillion dollar companies that are
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: attempting to get you hooked, that are gamifying everything to get.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: You in and keep you there.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: It's not a fair fight, you know, it's not like
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I think we have these this view in the US
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: and in the West in general, that like, you know,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: a system as long as there isn't like a gunpoint
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: into your head, that that's not coercion, right, that you're
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: not being manipulated. And that's just not the case. Clearly,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: you are being exploited. You're being manipulated, and you know
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: you're free in sort of like a technical sense, but
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: the reality is the deck is being stacked against you
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: at every single turn. And that has become again thanks
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: to you know, you're really highlighting this issue. Is the
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: first one I really had to stop and think about, like, okay,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: well what does this mean and what is it doing
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: to our society? And it has just become abundantly clear
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: to me that this whole thing is corrosive in every
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: way and deeply damaging it.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome, this is the gateway drug to discovering what
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: true freedom is, what does freedom actually mean? And are
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: you truly free or are you a slave? If you're
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: out there, who is betting every day to try and
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: to make your wealth. So actually, the communists, I've always
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: understood this about structural, structural advantage and freedom. So anyway,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: the point just remains if stay away, like I wish
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: that we had more power. I hope one day government
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: regulators and all of them will wake up. But under
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: this administration, this is not going to happen. These people
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: they love this shit right because they're becoming massively profitable,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: and these people will pay anything to remain legal. I'm
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: going to do a segment soon about OnlyFans just flagging that.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: That'll be a fun one for everybody to pay attention to.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: But next I'm going to have to start looking at
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: this Calshi advertising and some of the other stuff that's
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: been flagged to me. These people make this cigarette come
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: and he's in the sixties, look like boy scouts. It's
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: crazy what they make. The casinos of Las Vegas look
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: like church nuns. Like in terms of what they're promising.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: At least the casinos are relatively honest. You come here,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: you're gonna lose money, but you get to go watch
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Oh with the Bolaggio or something like that, and well
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: compious of tickets. These I mean, the amount of lies
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: that are being told about your ability to win, what
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: your you know, insider protection of insider trading, and so
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: much more buying off literal players. This is very, very
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: dangerous to sports, to society. But that unfortunate part, it's
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: the revealing nature of like where we are right now.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: We have got to get away from this.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: We're gonna have to push Olympics to tomorrow because Dan
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Osborne is standing by. But I do want to know
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: what did you think of the bad Bunny halftime shows?
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Bone?
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Were you? Were you furious? Were you triggered?
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, so people, maybe I'm being lib I thought it
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: was good. I thought it was good here, so it
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: was very I bet you if I had to watch
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: it in this in the stadium, I wouldn't have liked
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: it much. It was clearly very produced for television.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: They're all meant really fatigue no.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I yeah, but it was one of those where you know,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: you could see with the set the set design was amazing.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I mean I don't speak Spanish, like, I only speak
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: a little bit like maybe twenty percent or so, so
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I didn't really know what he was saying purely off
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: of production. I was like Hey, man, I mean it's
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: pretty good. And I'm not a big Reggaetne fan, but
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: he convinced me. You know, it wasn't bad. Uh yeah,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, to be honest, I thought I actually thought
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: it was pretty good. There is a meta conversation around
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: the NFL where, look, everyone, and I tweeted this at
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: the time, Everyone's like, oh, they're choosing bad Bonny because
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: he's woke. I was like, guys, you don't know anything
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: about the NFL. Then the NFL wants to become an
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: international sport, so I don't know if you saw this.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: The NFL already announced they're going to be playing I
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: think it's eleven international games next year. Eleven games. One
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: of them is a division rivalry where they are flying
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers in the Rams from LA and
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Sam Francisco to Melbourne, Australia, So a major flagship football
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: game is going to be played in Melbourne. They're doing
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: this all over the world. Latin America is one of
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: their dream markets already. Both the LA teams have big
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: fan bases in Mexico and across Latin America. We had
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: the Brazil game that happened earlier this season I think
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: the Brazil game is back on. I know that the
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: NFL is targeting that. Also, they're all on the same
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: time zone so they can watch. This is pure business.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: So it's one of those where look like I don't
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: think it really had anything to do with wokeness, but
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: it does relate to our conversation about gambling and all that.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I think it's bad because they just want to globalize
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the sport, and with globalization basically comes what happened to
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: the NBA. Remember that whole Hong Kong situation where the coach,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I forget exactly, forget who it was, Stere Warri something
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: like this. He said something about how he supported the
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: protesters in Hong Kong and they freaked out because the
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Chinese government was like, oh my god, and he almost
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: got fired and the owners spoke out. With globalization comes
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the same thing that happened, you know, for all the
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: rest of our economy. But I mean, you're almost swimming
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: against the tide at this point. So that's my overall, Well,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: that should remain an American sport, but like it's not.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: It's just that's not what they want. These people are
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: multi billionaires. Roger Goodell's very good at his job. All
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: he wants to do is expand, expand, expand. They have
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: all NFL fans buy the balls. They know they will
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: watch no matter what. They literally put games on at
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: nine am and people wait wake up to watch them.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: People will watch anything that you see. I like you,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: and I you and I support that. Other people do not.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Support that well, I mean, but also, I mean I
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: don't doubt that, you know, the expansion is part of
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: the taculus.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, bad Bunny.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I genuinely didn't realize what a massive that it was,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: like him and Taylor Swift. Yeah, the two biggest parties
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: artists of our generation. And I like, I didn't realize
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: how massive he is. So and not only the you know,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: the international expansion, but there's fifty million Spanish speakers here
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: in the US, and I'm sure that's a market that
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: they'd like for their penetration into. So but you know,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously his performance was political. I think would
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: be a lie to say it wasn't. You know, didn't
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: have political tone to it. The big thing that people
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: were noting was he had up that message that said
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: the only thing more powerful than hate his love.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: He's been very outspoken about you.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Know, ice abuses, and I think he's canceled concerts even
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: in the US because of fear of ICE and immigration
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: enforcement at his concerts, et cetera.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: So there's no doubt there was political.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: The other thing that I didn't see as much conversation
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: about there was that part where they were like dancing
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: on the like electrical polls, and then there was there
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: was like an explosion, remember that, And I'm sure that
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: that relates to Puerto Rico's ongoing electricity crisis.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: So there were those. There were those messages as well.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: There was a wedding in it, which is really cool
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: is apparently in a real wedding where the couple had
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: written him and invited him to their wedding, and he was.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Like, how about instead of that, how about you.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Come and get married during my Super Bowl halftime performance.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: So I thought the whole thing was very I thought
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: it was very well done.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: I thought it was beautiful.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I thought it was decidedly political, like everything's political without being.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't see that. I was just like, oh, it's
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: a good show.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Well, what I was going to say is I think
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: it's political without being like in your face and that's
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I think what people object to is when the messaging
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: is too aggressive and it takes the place of the artistry.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: But clearly, I mean, to me, one of the most
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: political parts of it is just when he read off
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: when he said the names of all the countries in
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: the Americas, including countries like Cuba that were you know,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: trying to utterly and miserate and destroy right now, or Venezuela,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: another place that you know, we're military intervention and have
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: long spent time trying to destroy them, et cetera. Actually
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: found that to be a really beautiful and a certain
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: way courageous act.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I guess, I mean I thought. I mean, he's the
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: biggest artist in Latin America. That's his entire fan base.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: That's the whole point of having the halftime show all
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: in Spanish. Period. Look like I said, we should decide
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: should we be our own sovereign nation, should we become
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: globalized to the entire us, to the global culture. That's
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: what the NFL wants. Most NFL fans are going to
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: put up with it. I don't think it's necessarily a
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: good thing. It is what it is. That's why I mean,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I just do think that people who are like, oh,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: the NFL, but they've gone woke. They don't care. They
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: just want to make money. That's all that they are
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: in for. They are salivating over. I mean, you know
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: those international games, they all sell out, they all get
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: people all over those countries. They show up, and they'll
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: show up in like thirty two different team jerseys. Like
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I'll never understand a German guy who's an Arizona Cardinal fans.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: But they exist apparently, so I don't know, didn't. I
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: didn't really look at it that way. I was just like, Okay,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: clearly they want to penetrate the Latin American market. That's
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: what this entire thing is about. They succeeded. The ratings
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: are in and they get one hundred and thirty five
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: million people watch it the largest pop It's also been
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: the most watched NFL season of all time. Like, the
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: NFL is only growing, and that's where they see the
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: dollar signs. That's where they want things to go. Like
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Bad Bunny kind of made it like a seller bration
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: of I guess Latin American identity really like with the
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: reading off of all that, Yeah, fine again, you know,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: I think people know my feelings about immigration and all that.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: But I really didn't find it that bad, like objectionable.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Thing.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: But it was all in Spanish, and I mean it
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: is kind of weird. They're like, okay, I mean I literally, lad,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I speak Spanish, and like I said, I speak twenty
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: percent Spanish, and even I was like, dude, I don't
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: know what the fuck is going on. So I don't know.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, but a lot of people music like I
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: enjoy some of us.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: I like some of his songs, even though I don't
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: speak Spanish, I don't know what what he's saying or
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: what they're about.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been plenty of Spanish songs.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that are super popular, that have been.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Very popular Shakira, you know. So it's like it's not who.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Has also performed at the super Bowl before previously Colombian.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: I forget she is Colombian. Yes, that's exactly right.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: We do have a reaction from Trump D's head and
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: that we can put up on the screen here. So
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: one thing that is kind of funny is that, you know,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: TPUSA did their alternative Great American Have tun Suit or
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: whatever they called it with Kid Rock. It was abysmald
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I mean it, Yes, he was lip singing, but he
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: wasn't even bothering to like really lip saying. The audio
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: was unsang.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: It sucked.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sorry, of course I like. And not
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: even just my bias, there were many right wingers who
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: also were like, this was really bad.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: In any case, here.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Is what well, where I was going with that is
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: apparently a Trump super Bowl party. They did not watch
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: the TV. They watched bad money. Anyway, Here's what Trump
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: had to say. The super Bowl halftime show is absolutely terrible.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: What are the worst ever? Makes no sense? Is an
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: affront to the greatness of America. Doesn't represent our standards
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: of success, creativity, or excellence. No matter understands the word
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: this guy is saying. The dancing is disgusting, especially for
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: young children that are watching from throughout the USA and
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: all over the world. This show is just a slap
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: in the face to our country, which is setting new
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: standards and records every single day, including the best stock
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: market in four oh one k's in history. There's nothing
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: inspirational about this miss of the halftime show and watch
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: it will get great reviews from the fake news media
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: like Soccer and Jetty because they haven't gotten a clue
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: of what is going on in the real world world.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: And by the way, the NFL should immediately replace its
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: ridiculous new kickoff. He's obsessed with the kickoff anyway. That
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: was Trump's reaction. One thing that was that someone noted,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: some intelligent person noted, is that this truth social went
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: out exactly nine pm, and so they think it was
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: pre written and auto to auto post because it went
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: out exactly at nine pm, which I mean, it does sound.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: It is sort of vague, like the sort of thing
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: you could write in advance, like it is going to
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: assume there's going to be some you know, some ass
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: shaking in it, so you can say, oh, the dancing
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: was disgusting, et cetera.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I get.
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, I thought that the whole freak out was
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: a bit much like I said, I view it purely business.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I don't love it, like I don't love the fact
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: that it's going to become a purely international sport. That's
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: what they want. The more that those people get, you know,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: the more money and dollar signs, the less kind of
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: American it becomes. At the same time, NFL fans have
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: nobody but themselves to blame because not only do they
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: put up with this shit the ratings keep going up,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: so it's not exactly like they can speak out. And yeah,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I mean a lot of the freak out was just like, oh,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: like I'm telling you, like I'm I'm pretty sensitive, I
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: guess to seeing that, I really didn't see it. I
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: was like, it was a good show. Yeah, he's very talented.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: I thought it was well produced, you know, et cetera.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I guess, you know, with the political undertones, but you
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: really would have to be looking for it, in my opinion,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: like to say, a celebration of all Latin America, which
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: again maybe it's if you don't know anything about him,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: because I knew who he was, I knew how big
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: he was as a musician, and this guy sells out
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: shows all over the world like.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: His crazy he has right now, I was looking right
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: now on Spotify, is the top all yeah, top five
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: songs are all no.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: No.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I've seen it before. I've seen the sell out numbers
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: like well where some of his shows are when he
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: will do in Latin America. So I've been aware of
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Bad Bunny like for quite quite a while. So I was,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it pretty much was exactly what
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: I expected. So there you go. Yeah, I thought I
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: actually did pretty well. I mean, apparently that makes me
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: a huge lip, but I was like, hey, it's a
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: good show. We enjoyed it. It was only like twelve
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: and then we move on to a very very boring game.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: So congratulations to the Seattle Seahawks, by the way, and
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold especially. He deserves it after the run that
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: he had.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: All Right, guys, we are very fortunate to be joined
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: this morning in studio by Dan Osborne. He is the
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: independent candidate for United States Senate in the state of Nebraska.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Welcome sir, Thank you. Great to have you in person.
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, all right.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: So, so how's the campaign going? This time?
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: You got a different opponent than last time. You're up
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: against Pete Ricketts.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: How do things look so far?
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: Things are looking really good. So the fourth poll just
• 41:35
  Speaker 7: came out in the race and we're still statistically tied,
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: even after he spent two million dollars in the state
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: against me radio ads, TV ads. He went up really
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: early that frankly, Nebraska was not even used to see
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: and so yeah, we haven't spent much and so I'm
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: feeling really good about this one.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: And so if you can remind the audience, you came
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: closer than many have to being able to defeat a
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Republican in the state of Nebraska. Long time thought of
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: a lock state. You were able to do it as
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: an independent. You really been trying to embrace economic populist issues.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Why did you decide to run again? I know we
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: talked immediately after your race, but you what did you
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: think that you learned from that race that you could
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: try to do again?
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I suppose ultimately why I decided to do
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: it again. There was a lot of people asking me too,
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: but ultimately was I sat my family down to dinner,
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: and you know, we talked about what.
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: It would look like we do we want to do
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: this again?
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: And the resounding answer, especially for my kids and my wife,
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: where no, we don't want to do this again, right
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: because it's extremely difficult on your family life, you know,
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: being in the public eye, the mud slinging that occurs.
• 42:45
  Speaker 7: But once we started talking about the issues, like specifically,
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: my twenty two year old daughter said, Dad, I don't
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: ever think I'm going to be a homeowner, you know,
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: the first time age buyer for or the age for
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: home buyers forty years old now in this country and
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: collect lead. This generation isn't going to do as good
• 43:02
  Speaker 7: as their parents for the first time, and so issues
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: like that. By the time when we were doing the dishes,
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: it was like, we have to do this.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: You felt an obligation.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: We wanted to talk to you about some of the
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: sort of Nebraska specific economic issues that are going on
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: because you've got, you know, a unique view.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: We're very coastal here.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately we don't get to talk to that many people
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: from Nebraska. It's what F two up on the screen here.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: I know this has been a major and significant issue.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: There's a major Tyson's Foods plant that is going to close,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: that has closed now in Lexington, Nebraska. Closure it says
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: here a result more than thirty two hundred people in
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: a town of just over ten thousand losing their jobs.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Can you talk some about what happened here and also
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: the failure of government that this represents, because there were
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: tools that your opponent and that this administration could have
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: deployed to avoid this devastating economic blow.
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean, this is the gutting of Middle
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: America in.
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: Action, right like at a time when beef prices, and
• 44:01
  Speaker 7: beef in itself is a very high demand. They choose
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: to close down a plant that does five percent of
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: the beef production in the country. And you know, so
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: they are in violation of the Packers and Stockyards Act
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: of nineteen twenty one, which was created to prevent this
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: exact thing that they're doing, right, this consolidation of industries
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: where they can manipulate prices for both the ranchers and
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: the consumers.
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: We're seeing it play out.
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: You know, I've tried to get our federal delegation to
• 44:33
  Speaker 7: follow through with this, Pete Ricketts said, after I did
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: my press conference out there, Pete Rickett said, we'll look
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: into it. And then the day after he said that,
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: he got a donation from Tyson to his campaign.
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: And then two months.
• 44:47
  Speaker 7: Later, you know, they had a reporter catch him in
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: the hallway and he said, oh, they're not doing anything wrong.
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: Everything's fine.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we actually have some of that. Why don't we
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: take a listen and we'll get your reaction.
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: Let's roll it, Senator Ricketts.
• 44:58
  Speaker 8: A couple months ago, you said that you were going
• 45:01
  Speaker 8: to look into whether Tyson was violating the Packers and
• 45:05
  Speaker 8: Stockyards Act, But now thirty three hundred people.
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: Have lost their jobs.
• 45:08
  Speaker 8: So I'm wondering what exactly you did to try to
• 45:11
  Speaker 8: save that plan.
• 45:13
  Speaker 9: So they are not violating the sccer packyards. I've been
• 45:18
  Speaker 9: to Lexington to work with the mayor about being able
• 45:23
  Speaker 9: to use the episode to continue to create jobs. So
• 45:25
  Speaker 9: we're gonna be working with Tyson. They're talking about they're
• 45:28
  Speaker 9: doing evaluation what they're going to continue for. But there's
• 45:31
  Speaker 9: valuable resources there with regard to the land, the railroad,
• 45:37
  Speaker 9: spur and the wastewater plant that could be used for
• 45:39
  Speaker 9: future job.
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: What did you do to try to save it before
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: it closed down?
• 45:43
  Speaker 9: So again, this is one of the things where we
• 45:45
  Speaker 9: have a private sector.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: We have a private sector, sir, and we have a
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: railroad and they'll they'll be fine.
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: Can I tell you what that reminds me of.
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: You ever seen Charlie in the chocolate factory the number
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: one where he keeps to stop toning that kid to mumble, Guys,
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: what is he even saying there? He's just like saying
• 46:02
  Speaker 7: words without any meaning behind them, And it's because he
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: doesn't have a defensible position because he's taking their money
• 46:09
  Speaker 7: and doing their bidding. We're seeing it over and over
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: and over again with a lot of our elected officials
• 46:14
  Speaker 7: and man, people are getting tired of it and they're
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: seeing through it.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do want to ask you specifically about the
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: beef prices. Can we put F three up here on
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: the screen. I'm curious for your reaction. There's been a
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: lot of pressure on the administration right now to lower
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: the price of beef. Their response instead of fighting for
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: them like this is actually import a significant amount of
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: beef from South America, which you know America first. We
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: can talk I guess kind of separately about this, but
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: you know, it seems this obviously is important to many
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: people on the coast and the rest of the country
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: for just the price for our ability to afford at
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: the grocery store, but for a year state, it's a
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: lot of jobs. It is like central to the identity.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Can you just talk a little bit about that. Well,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: ranchers are finally starting to make some good money. You know,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: thirty years ago they were making seventy cents on the
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: dollar for their product.
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: Uh now, uh, you know, we're they're lucky to make
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: thirty cents on the dollar. But this year, you know,
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: with the demand is high, and so in conjunction with
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: the consolidating of the packers and then now this ranchers
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: are going to suffer.
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: Absolutely. I've been talking to them.
• 47:18
  Speaker 7: You know, a lot of a lot of MAGA ranchers
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: reposts a lot of our stuff online because of they
• 47:24
  Speaker 7: understand what's happening and they're pissed.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Off, zooming out from this specific issue. How is the
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: economy in Nebraska overall?
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: Well, I would say I would say that overall it's
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: it's been steady, you know, especially in Omahon Lincoln with
• 47:42
  Speaker 7: job job growth, but I feel there there's definitely a
• 47:47
  Speaker 7: sense of decline with brain drain.
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: You know, with our governor using I don't even know if.
• 47:55
  Speaker 7: I can say it on air, but you know, okay,
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: he uses the we'd lib TRD frequently, and you know,
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: just a common disrespect for human decency is what we're
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: seeing with a lot of our state and federal delegation.
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: And so that's prompting people to not want to stay
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: in our young people specifically not want to stay in
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: our state.
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: And you know, we need to.
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: Be continually growing and we need to be protecting our
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: rural way of life too. You know, we're at an
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: all time shortage for row Croft farmers and that that's
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: going to continue to happen and two percent of the
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: population feed the rest of us. We have to have
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: sustainable farming practices and that doesn't include consolidation a bag right.
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: That that includes keeping them profitable with things like stringent
• 48:47
  Speaker 7: right to repair laws. If you own something, you should
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: have the right to repair it. I mean, these tractors
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: cost upwards of a million dollars. So if you're a
• 48:54
  Speaker 7: young person wanting to you know, live that rural way
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: of life, you it's almost impostussible to break into that
• 49:01
  Speaker 7: right now, go ahead.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: And put F four up on the screen to that point,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: so you know, you've got this twelve billion dollar farmer
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: bailout that the administration has pushed through. This as real
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: crop farmers in the Midwest and great Plans have a
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: better idea of how much money they can expect from
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: one time federal aid payments announced last month. You've got
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: you know a lot of people in line to receive
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: these funds. I know a lot of analyzes that say
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: that this won't be sufficient. This of course relates to
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: the terror regime that this administration has pushed forward. You know,
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: what are you hearing from from farmers about the state
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: of the AIG economy and their ability to make it
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: and whether or not this bailout will be sufficient for them.
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: It's a joke.
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: It's a joke they and they see it. I talk
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: to them every day. I was just talking to a
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: bean farmer the other day and I asked him about
• 49:47
  Speaker 7: that bailout.
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: First of all, they don't want handouts.
• 49:51
  Speaker 7: They want a market to sell their product, right, So
• 49:55
  Speaker 7: he is sitting on beans that he can't sell, and
• 49:58
  Speaker 7: so I asked him, how is that twelve billion dollars
• 50:01
  Speaker 7: going to help you to stay afloat? And he said, well,
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: first of all, it's not the twenty billion dollars we
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: gave Argentina, right.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: So yeah, good point, that's in question, right right.
• 50:13
  Speaker 7: I mean, then you can add maybe another twenty billion
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: dollars arguably to make it forty billion dollars.
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: Argentina gets now we're buying their beef.
• 50:20
  Speaker 7: But the bailout, he said, what it's going to do
• 50:23
  Speaker 7: is it's going to help him buy his seed and
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: his chemicals for next year. But it does absolutely nothing
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: for him this year. So I think what this is
• 50:32
  Speaker 7: going to cause and I believe we're already seeing it
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: more consolidation of ag right, the people that can afford
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: to come in and buy them up, the Bill Gates
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: of the world buying up land in Nebraska. And again
• 50:46
  Speaker 7: it goes back to sustainable farming. And it's just it's
• 50:50
  Speaker 7: not good for Nebraska, it's not good for the country.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Frankly, So, how do you think about tariffs? I'm curious
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: because you know, I know a lot of soybean farmers
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: many others were dramatically affected. However, we do you have
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: to balance our national strategic priority with China. How do
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: you think about tariffs as a tool when it respects
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: with respect to agriculture. Many lobbying, you know, even farmers
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: or against tariffs specifically for this reason, which I understand,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: But we have a lot of things to think about.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: You might be a United States centator. How would you think.
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: About the question, Well, you hit the nail on the head.
• 51:17
  Speaker 7: It's a tool, right, And as a mechanic myself, I
• 51:20
  Speaker 7: don't just have one tool. I don't have a big
• 51:22
  Speaker 7: old hammer that I use for everything. Right, you have
• 51:25
  Speaker 7: precision machine tools, and you have a whole array of tools,
• 51:28
  Speaker 7: and this is one of the tools that you use
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: to protect American jobs. I mean, we've seen it be
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: successful in the automotive sector. You know, you predominantly the
• 51:40
  Speaker 7: F one fifties and the Silverados and the RAM trucks
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: are still predominant here in the country. And that is
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: you know, you could argue that is due from our
• 51:48
  Speaker 7: tariff policy. So it has their place. But I do
• 51:52
  Speaker 7: think the power of the tariff should be with Congress.
• 51:54
  Speaker 7: It shouldn't be with the executive branch. It was never
• 51:56
  Speaker 7: designed that way. We should go back to doing it.
• 52:00
  Speaker 7: Congress has that control.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Let's zoom out a little bit and talk about the
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: political landscape. You're obviously you're an independent. You're running as
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: an independent. I think most people would look at the
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: state of Nebraska and say, a Democrat, no matter how good,
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: you know, would not stand a chance of winning statewide
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: in a state like Nebraska. You know, it shifted very
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: much to the right. It's deeply read deeply Republican. At
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: this point, what do you think it is about the
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Democratic Party that is so appalling to so many people in.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: A rural state like Nebraska.
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: Well, I think I don't know that I'd use the
• 52:33
  Speaker 7: word appalling but I'll give you an example. I went
• 52:38
  Speaker 7: I went door knocking in Weeping Water, Nebraska.
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: And when we're.
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: Driving around going door knocking, I look for the Trump
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: sign because I want to talk to that person.
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: I want to understand and let them know who I am.
• 52:51
  Speaker 6: And you know why I'm running.
• 52:53
  Speaker 7: And what I found is the last guy that answered
• 52:57
  Speaker 7: his door had a Trump sign out front.
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: He answered the door with his daughter.
• 53:03
  Speaker 7: He was obviously a wrestler, he had the cauliflower ear,
• 53:05
  Speaker 7: and his daughter was a wrestler. He was getting ready
• 53:07
  Speaker 7: to take her to a match. And he loves his
• 53:11
  Speaker 7: family like most people do, right. They fiercely love their
• 53:14
  Speaker 7: kids and they want to do everything that they see
• 53:17
  Speaker 7: fit to protect their kids. And so it's all about
• 53:21
  Speaker 7: the message that people receive.
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: He lived in Omaha, and he got out of Omaha.
• 53:26
  Speaker 7: Because he didn't want his daughter going to school where teachers,
• 53:32
  Speaker 7: male teachers were dressing as women, you know, and trying
• 53:37
  Speaker 7: to tell their kids that they could be anything that
• 53:40
  Speaker 7: they want. Now, this didn't happen, but the idea is
• 53:45
  Speaker 7: constantly put into their head. Right, so I think, and
• 53:49
  Speaker 7: this is who's creating the division in the country. They
• 53:52
  Speaker 7: will keep us divided on anything, whether it's a Second
• 53:55
  Speaker 7: Amendment or whether it's transgenders or LGBTQ, whatever, the issue
• 53:59
  Speaker 7: is that they can divide us with, they'll use it,
• 54:02
  Speaker 7: and then they'll keep hounding it.
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: So people believe that and that's perception is.
• 54:06
  Speaker 7: Reality right instead, though, But those are the very same
• 54:10
  Speaker 7: people that want us to stay blind to the fact
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: that we're getting robbed right with the consolidation of our industries,
• 54:17
  Speaker 7: the monopolies, the billionaires that are carving up the country
• 54:21
  Speaker 7: for themselves.
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: Those are the ones that want to keep us divided.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: So I think some of that is true, But we
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: do have a reconcilable differences in the country. A lot
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: of people still vote, you know, based on them. One
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: of them is immigration. I know you've had some different
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: views on the subject. You are from a heavily rural state.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: You're talking about farm shortages. How do you think about
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: illegal labor? I know you have I think you were
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: against the shutdown. I know Senator Rickards has I criticized
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: you for talking on both sides of your mouth, So, like,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: what's your definitive immigration policy for the state of Nebraska.
• 54:48
  Speaker 7: Well, Congress needs to do something, including Pete Ricketts. We
• 54:51
  Speaker 7: need meaningful, humane immigration reform that we haven't seen in
• 54:56
  Speaker 7: this country since I've been alive.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Well, what do you mean by that?
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, we know.
• 55:02
  Speaker 7: We need more judges, we need more lawyers. We need
• 55:05
  Speaker 7: to figure out how the people that are here, that
• 55:07
  Speaker 7: are working, that are upstanding members of our community. There
• 55:09
  Speaker 7: are friends, there are neighbors. We have to figure out
• 55:12
  Speaker 7: a way for them to have a path.
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 55:16
  Speaker 7: I don't believe in general amnesty, but I do think
• 55:20
  Speaker 7: there should be a path to citizenship. And you know,
• 55:22
  Speaker 7: we were promised that they were going to come in
• 55:25
  Speaker 7: and take the criminal elements out, and that's not what
• 55:27
  Speaker 7: we're seeing play out.
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 55:30
  Speaker 7: I don't think too many people would disagree that if
• 55:33
  Speaker 7: you're a violent criminal that you shouldn't be here. But
• 55:36
  Speaker 7: you know, the folks that are hard workers that contribute
• 55:40
  Speaker 7: to our society by paying taxes. I mean, I think
• 55:45
  Speaker 7: two billion dollars undocumented workers paying to Social Security that
• 55:49
  Speaker 7: they'll never get out. Those are the kinds of issues
• 55:52
  Speaker 7: that we do need immigration reforms. So we need more judges,
• 55:55
  Speaker 7: we need more lawyers, and we need better laws to
• 55:58
  Speaker 7: help promote What.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: About in the meat packing industry, Let's see we were
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: just talking about that, for example, heavily reliant to make
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: cases on illegal labor. Sure many may not be criminals,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: like in terms of violent criminals, but they are violating
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: the law being president here illegally. Do you think that
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: the company should bear some responsibility for that?
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, they're the ones.
• 56:16
  Speaker 7: They're the ones benefiting monetarily right, paying them next to nothing, right,
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: and enriching themselves. And those are the ones that can
• 56:23
  Speaker 7: afford to buy a senator or a house member, and
• 56:27
  Speaker 7: I certainly can't. And so I think really the most
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: important issue of all of our times, it all kind
• 56:34
  Speaker 7: of goes back to campaign finance reform to take the
• 56:37
  Speaker 7: ability away from these lobbyists and special interests to control
• 56:40
  Speaker 7: our elections and quite frankly control our elected officials. Because
• 56:45
  Speaker 7: if you want to work in Nebraska or Texas, Montana, Florida, Ohio,
• 56:50
  Speaker 7: it costs one hundred million dollars to run for US Senate,
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: that's insane, a billion dollars to run for the US president.
• 56:57
  Speaker 6: Like, those are the things that we have to clean up.
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: So we have to figure year out of way.
• 57:00
  Speaker 7: I mean, I'd love to just end Citizens United, right,
• 57:03
  Speaker 7: I know it's harder said than done. But maybe there's
• 57:06
  Speaker 7: state laws or something we could do to curtail that,
• 57:09
  Speaker 7: or maybe we can make it especially. That's how I
• 57:12
  Speaker 7: view my campaign is if we elect somebody who doesn't
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: take corporate pack money or a PAC money or anything
• 57:18
  Speaker 7: like that, special interest money, if I can't relate it
• 57:20
  Speaker 7: back to working people, I don't.
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: Want your money.
• 57:23
  Speaker 7: So if we could win in a state like Nebraska,
• 57:26
  Speaker 7: we could set the tone for future elections that if
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: you take this money, this dirty money, and you're going
• 57:31
  Speaker 7: to do their bidding, we're not going to vote for you,
• 57:33
  Speaker 7: because ultimately, there's a heck of a lot more voters
• 57:36
  Speaker 7: out there than there are billionaires, right, and we.
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: Still have the power.
• 57:39
  Speaker 7: We just have to take it back and we have
• 57:40
  Speaker 7: to cut through the noise and talk about the things
• 57:43
  Speaker 7: that are affecting our everyday lives. Like so, I call
• 57:45
  Speaker 7: it paycheck populism, right, I get a paycheck every week.
• 57:48
  Speaker 7: I know how much comes in, I know how much
• 57:50
  Speaker 7: goes out, and I know how much harder it's getting
• 57:52
  Speaker 7: to provide for my family these days.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: One thing we focused a lot on this show is
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: overall the AI industry and then the specific flights point
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: of these massive data centers that are being located in
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: a lot of rural areas alone, my own talent has
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: seen a number of them being being put in. There's
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: huge issues with regard to land usage, water usage, and
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: with electricity bills going up. And I wonder if you've
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: seen any of that in Nebraska, if that's become a
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: flashpoint in any sort of way.
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: As there's a ton of them.
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: There's data centers Google, Facebook, Amazon, you know the AI
• 58:27
  Speaker 7: data centers there they go up. Yeah, it provides jobs
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: in the short term, you know, to build these structures.
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: Especially, it's good for the buildings and trades folks.
• 58:36
  Speaker 7: But once these things are up, I think it takes
• 58:38
  Speaker 7: like five people to run a data center, and they
• 58:42
  Speaker 7: are taking up valuable resources. Nebraska sits on the Ogo
• 58:46
  Speaker 7: La La Aquifer, the biggest body of fresh water maybe
• 58:49
  Speaker 7: in the world.
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: I don't know, we'd have to fact check that one.
• 58:52
  Speaker 7: But they are using this resource up because they need
• 58:56
  Speaker 7: water to cool their equipment.
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: And then what really.
• 59:02
  Speaker 7: Makes me mad is my power bill is going to
• 59:04
  Speaker 7: go at five percent. That's that's a pretty big chunk
• 59:07
  Speaker 7: of change. And we've had the I suppose the pleasure
• 59:12
  Speaker 7: of having public power in Nebraska, so our power is
• 59:15
  Speaker 7: considerably lower than the rest of the country, but it's
• 59:19
  Speaker 7: going to start rising because of these data centers. Meanwhile,
• 59:22
  Speaker 7: Jeff bezos Is buys a yacht and he can't sell
• 59:26
  Speaker 7: it under a bridge, so he pays to dredge out
• 59:28
  Speaker 7: the river or where the bay or wherever that was at,
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: and I'm paying for it Like these are extremely profitable
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: businesses that should be figuring out a way to pay
• 59:38
  Speaker 7: for their own power.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Well, sir, we always appreciate your time. We enjoy having
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: you on the show. Thank you for coming me.
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and tell people where they can find you if
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: they're interested in learning more about your campaign.
• 59:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you can go to Osborne for senate dot com.
• 59:51
  Speaker 7: That's Osbourne without any not related to the ex football coach.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: But that didn't even occur to me, but I'm sure did.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: The money will it will to people in Nebraska.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: I like it, Dad, Thank you so much, great for you,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Thanks so much for watching guys. We appreciate it.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: With a great show for everyone tomorrow. We'll see you then, Kay,