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EP 54: NFL Free Agency Winners & Losers + 2026 NFL Draft Scouting Reports For Penn State G Vega Ioane & Ohio State DT Kayden McDonald · 3 Guys, 6 Balls NFL Podcast

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  3 lifelong friends, 6 trusty balls and endless NFL ticks.
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  Welcome to three guys 6 Balls NFL podcast.
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  Welcome to episode 54 of three guys 6 balls NFL podcast.
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  I'm your host Joel, and I'm here with my Co host Will Avery is
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  getting home late from work, so he'll be joining us shortly.
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  So for now it's just Will and I. But free agency has officially
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  been open for one week. And so today we're going to talk
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  about who we think we're the winners and losers of free
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  agency. And then after that, we'll be
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  doing some more scouting reports for you guys and adding more
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  players to our top 50 big board. Before we get started, Will, is
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  there anything that you want to talk about before we get going
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  here? Was there something I was
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  supposed to? No, I just wanted to see if you
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  had anything to bring up before we before we just jump in so.
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  I mean, I've got, I've got topic specific things, but nothing
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  something besides that. OK, well then we'll just go
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  ahead and just jump right into the winners and losers of free
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  agency. So, well, why don't you get us
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  started? You can pick if you want to
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  start with the winners or. Losers.
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  I'd like to start with a single loser here.
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  And this is a team loser. And this is a very, very
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  opinionated thing. And I'm going to, I'm going to,
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  I'm going to make a lot of people mad right now because I
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  think there's a lot of people view this as good.
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  I am not one of them, and my my first loser is the Baltimore
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  Ravens. Absolutely.
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  Purely, purely for bad business. I don't even know how what else
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  to call it. And and the their Baltimore
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  homers are going to be like, well, he didn't pass the
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  physical. Sure, your doctors said he
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  didn't pass the physical after background deals were going on
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  between you guys and Trey Hendrickson to have a different
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  deal where you didn't give up to first round picks, you didn't
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  pay him more money you got and I would say exactly equivalent
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  Trey Henderson is not as good anymore as Max Crosby is
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  potential. So that like the potential for
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  this upcoming season, I think is lower a little bit, but you are
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  what you're saving in value is worth that little bit of
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  potential. And so I think it's incredibly
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  bad business to do what they did.
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  They traded for him. They brought him in pending
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  physical. I don't know if you've noticed,
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  but all of these trades now since that time have all had
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  that little pending physical tag on him.
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  They probably did before. That just stands out to me so
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  much more now that they traded for him.
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  The the the Raiders got this huge contract off the books,
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  allegedly. They went and signed $280
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  million worth of people, and then all of a sudden Baltimore
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  went, actually, we're going to sign this other dude instead.
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  You can have your guy back. He didn't pass our physical, and
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  now the wages are just stuck with it.
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  And I, the conspiracy theorist to me wants to say, well, yeah,
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  it's because the Raiders stole Tyler Lindenbaum.
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  They fine take take Max Crosby back then.
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  We don't want your we don't want him.
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  If you're going to steal our players, we're not little dates
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  of our guy. We're not going to take your
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  guy. I just did not like to move at
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  all. I thought it was bad business.
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  It's not like they didn't know he was recovering from a torn
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  MCL. That wasn't private news that I
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  mean, that clearly happened. He actually got mad at his own
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  team for not letting him play the last two games of the season
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  last year. And when they benched him that
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  day, I actually said on this show that day, he posted
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  pictures of her videos of him on his Instagram of him playing
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  basketball and jumping on trampoline and doing all sorts
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  of things showing, hey, guys, I'm not actually that injured.
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  And unlike Jerrod McCoy, he can come back from a knee surgery
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  within one offseason. I just think it's crazy.
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  I keep bringing it back. I can't.
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  I can't go to die. Did you see the press
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  conference? From from which one match
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  Ravens. No, the Ravens.
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  I read about it. I didn't.
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  I didn't see it. It just looked like that they
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  were just making stuff up. Oh, absolutely.
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  Like they didn't actually know what to say.
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  They were just making stuff up, just making up reasons why that
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  didn't happen. So it just, it's just a bad
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  look. I would like to turn this into a
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  positive though and say a winner of that move was the NFL fans
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  because there was overwhelming negative spin on the Ravens
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  specifically for doing this. Like, like people were up in
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  arms about how bad of business this was by the Ravens and I saw
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  more negative negativity towards the Ravens for doing this than
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  anything else on the move. And so I, I really appreciated
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  that the whole of the NFL fan that kind of got together
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  against the Ravens for doing this kind of bad.
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  Like it just set such a bad precedent.
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  I don't want to just keep repeating myself saying bad
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  business over and over and over again, But that's just all I can
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  track it up to is is you made a deal.
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  You agreed to that knowing the risk.
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  You didn't have your own personal doctor say, oh, the
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  risk is too high. Also, we can sign this other guy
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  for cheaper. Let's do that instead.
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  I it's good in house business sure, but league wide business
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  it just sets a really bad precedent.
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  Yeah, nobody's going to want to trade with the Ravens for a long
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  time because of that. So I agree with you 100%.
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  It's just a bad look. Yeah, I'm going to stay with the
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  losers for free agency. And for me, one of the biggest
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  losers of free agency is George Pickens.
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  If I were George Pickens I would not play until I received a long
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  term contract extension. If I were him I'd be like I'm on
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  a one year $27.3 million deal after I just balled out with 93
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  catches over 1400 yards and 9 touchdowns.
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  While this dude Alec Pierce is over here for the Colts getting
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  $29 million a year after he just barely scraped by 1000 yards for
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  the first time in his career. Pickens and Pierce were drafted
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  in the same year with back-to-back picks, and Pickens
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  has been way more productive in those four years than Pierce
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  has. Pickens has 110 more catches
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  over 1300 more yards, four more touchdowns over those four
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  years, and he's getting paid less money.
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  I'm sure George Pickens will eventually get paid more than
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  Pierce, but for now he's one of the biggest losers of free
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  agency in my opinion. It's weird to say that a guy who
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  didn't get a move done, like he didn't get traded, he didn't
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  resign somewhere like he wasn't he's not even up for a contract
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  right now technically. So it's weird to say that he's a
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  loser. But I fully agree with you.
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  Like he needs to be seeking. Hey, where is where?
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  It's my turn, guys. But we all knew that the 49ers
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  were going to be here with your time is kind of running out.
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  You're going to have to start paying your really good guys.
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  You said George Pickens. I was thinking George Kill,
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  that's on me. You're right.
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  George Pickens, you're right though.
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  Same thing. Stick sticks though.
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  You're right. George Pickens, Cowboys good
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  going. I was stuck on the white guys.
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  This one's my bad. We talked about 3 white guys.
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  I was just stuck on it. This one's on me.
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  Anyway, George Pickens, you're right.
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  He he stepped up for the Cowboys this year with everything going
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  on with CD and all the other team that he was the guy when
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  they need him to. And when CD came back, they
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  still stuck with him. And and you're again, you're
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  right. He was, he deserves more.
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  And, and the problem is, and again goes back to the same
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  thing I was saying incorrectly, Dallas just isn't going to pay
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  it. Dallas doesn't pay out their own
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  free agents at all. And, and and he didn't need the
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  same treatment that Amari Cooper got where they Dallas trade a A1
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  for Amari. Cooper had him for half a season
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  and Amari left And it's like, OK, well, you're going to do the
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  same thing just for what? I swear it's not an earthquake
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  for those listening. My I bumped my table.
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  My whole screen just shook. Anyway, he's going to be here
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  for the year. They're going to use them to his
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  fullest potential and then they won't sign him to a big enough
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  deal and he'll get a big deal somewhere else.
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  That's just the way Dallas does business right now.
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  And it's it's consistent. They just don't pay big money
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  for for big players unless they're home grown players.
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  They will do that for their goals.
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  So what Jerry is trying to do is he's trying to get somebody to
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  give him more draft picks so that he doesn't have to pay
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  George Pickens, right? That's what he's trying to do.
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  Because if if George Pickens plays on the franchise tag this
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  year, he can actually get franchise tag again next year.
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  Oh, really? Jerry Jones?
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  I believe that's the rule. I believe you can't.
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  I believe you can do it more than once.
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  So Jerry Jones can actually hold on to George Pickens.
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  I don't know if George Pickens is going to play or not.
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  If I were him, I wouldn't, but I don't know if he's going to
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  play. But he can be franchise tagged
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  more than once in a row. And so I need to look that up.
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  Actually, I believe you can, but let me look it up real quick.
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  I know with Madden you can't, but that's not the end all be
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  all be all of everything. OK, so it says yes, an NFL
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  player can be franchise tagged twice or even 3 times.
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  A second consecutive tag requires the team to pay the
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  player 120% raise over the previous year's salary though,
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  so and then a third tag results in 144% increase.
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  That is according to the AI overview because I didn't want
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  to dig into it too much. So it could be, yeah, it must be
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  100. Percent true.
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  It's our AI overlarge. It's for sure true.
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  Must be 100. Percent true, if that's what
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  it's telling me. So.
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  Or 144%, yeah, but but he can be tagged more than one time.
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  So Jerry could just tag him. And again, I don't know if he's
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  going to play, but he could just tag him and then just hope that
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  eventually somebody gives him a first round pick or a second
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  round pick or whatever pick it is because Jerry doesn't want to
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  pay him long term. So he's just hoping that
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  somebody will give him draft picks.
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  I think that's what Jerry is doing.
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  And, and the problem is, is that again, thinking of, of Jerry,
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  that benefits Jerry a lot. Well, I'm paying, I'm franchise
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  tagging, but now I'm paying him 125.
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  You said 125%. So it's, it's 25% more than you
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  got this year, right? And 144.
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  Percent. So it's so 20% extra over this
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  year if he were to get franchise tagged.
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  He did get franchise tagged this year, correct?
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  This year. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  So it would be 2020% more next year.
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  And then if they do it again, it's like, well, I'm, I'm paying
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  him more money. It's just on one year short term
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  deals. If he doesn't play, then that's
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  going to be the narrative. It's like he got more money on
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  the tag and he's choosing not to play.
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  And so it'll just turn the entire fan base against him,
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  unfortunately, because as much as as as Dallas likes to say,
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  oh, well, Jerry's standing in the way.
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  Jerry's the problem when he makes moves by the end of the
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  year, everyone's like, we'll see my composes got hurt.
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  What what we're going to do with you now?
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  We've got their pack. We got to pick 20.
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  We got to pick 12 and pick 22 picks in the top three.
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  That's wonderful. Wow, what a mastermind.
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  And so you just turn the, the, the whole fan base.
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  Remember the whole fan base. That's, that's an absolute, but,
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  but a majority of the fan base just turns opinion as the season
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  goes on to be on his side. And that's all that's all that
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  matters to these owners is that, hey, as long as you're on my
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  side, you're going to keep watching games, you're going to
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  keep buying tickets, you're going to keep eating that
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  popcorn. Money, money, money.
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  Exactly, Will do you want to read that text that Avery just
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  sent us? Oh I would love to this.
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  This is a live reading. I have not seen it yet.
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  He was texting while I was talking.
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  He says, yeah. He says, yeah, I won't make it,
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  so Hebrew's not here, obviously. He says, yeah, I won't make it.
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  And Joe replies at all. And Avery replies with
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  preemptively apologizing to Dwayne.
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  It says, and I quote, I'm a bitch.
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  So there's that. Sorry Dwayne, that your oldest
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  son is saying about himself, but when he if he does get here, we
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  will reaffirm him and self love and self-care.
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  That's very important. He said he might hop on in like
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  20-30 minutes or so. So we might get him for some of
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  this episode, but we'll see. We're back around.
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  We're back around to you. So give us another.
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  Let's just stick with the losers.
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  Let's just. Stick with the losers, man.
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  I was ready with a winner. So give me one second.
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  Give us a winner. Then give us a winner.
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  Well, I I either way. What do you want?
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  Tell me what you want, Daddy. All right, we'll stick with the
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  losers. I'm going to go with one loser
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  and a dragon. Fortunate, and this is the price
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  you pay when you win big, is the Seattle Seahawks.
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  I, I think they lost a lot of key players that got them where
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  they needed to go and some that you can fix it, right?
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  Like, like I live in the Northwest.
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  There's a lot of Seahawks fans at my work.
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  When Kenneth Walker signed with Kansas City, everyone said,
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  yeah, he was good, but he only had like 1000 yards this season.
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  He was only good at the end of the season that there was so
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  much justification that went on for yes, he was good, but he was
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  OK, really super MVP. But really during the season
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  he's only OK. And overall I agree with that,
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  but it's the immediate again, we're we're back on this
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  immediate turning of opinion. While he's not my guy anymore,
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  he can go kick rocks for all I care.
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  But they're also leaving out the part where he was sharing time
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  for most of the season, so. Right.
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  And Seattle has had a continuous history of running back injury
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  where they've had to have a stable of running backs ever
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  since Marshawn left. It has just been injury after
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  injury. I mean, you can just run through
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  the players. I can't because I'm not a
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  Seattle fan. But they they could just run
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  through the players that they've had just consistently just and
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  it has not been exclusive or it has not been without Charbonnay
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  and Walker having their own injury problems.
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  So them re signing it was it was on the Rockstar.
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  But then re signing Rashid Shahid was their biggest outward
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  move, at least that I saw. They lost a lot of people.
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  And that's just the price you pay when you win the Super Bowl
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  is that you've got mediocre, well, you've got good guys on
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  mediocre contracts that other people want to pay big money to.
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  And so they lost a lot of pieces and they lost the Super Bowl
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  MVP. And so whether justified or not,
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  we'll see. But yeah, unfortunately.
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  I'll say this. Go ahead, finish.
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  Unfortunately, I think they did kind of lose out this this free
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  agency period. I will say this about the
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  Seahawks though. I going into the next season, I
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  have more confidence that the Seahawks could repeat as Super
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  Bowl champions than I did that the Eagles could repeat as Super
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  Bowl champions. Because I think the Eagles lost
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  way more pieces than the Seahawks did.
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  And I still think the Seahawks have better like an overall
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  structure than the Eagles had going into this next season.
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  I could be wrong about that. It's probably just because I
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  can't withstand the Eagles. I don't like Seahawks either,
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  but I can't stand the Eagles. But I think the Seahawks would
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  have a better chance of repeating than the Eagles had of
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  repeating. My only my only issue with that
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  statement is that the other two good teams in the NFC West got
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  better this free agency period. Like I, I would say, I would say
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  the Rams legitimately got significantly better that that
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  is yeah, I put my Ram's hat on because I was going to make that
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  take anyway. But the Rams got significantly
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  better. They immediately addressed their
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  needs and did it in full force. And then I think the the Niners
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  are addressing needs. And as they get healthy, then
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  they receiver was a problem. They didn't have IU all year.
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  And who knows what's going on with that guy right now.
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  It's a receiver has been a big need.
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  And what they did was they went out and they got a big body, big
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  play receiver. And so sorry, but so I, I, I
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  think the rest of the NFC West is getting better while the
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  Seahawks are at minimum staying stagnant.
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  And if everyone else is moving forward while you're not moving,
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  then you're moving backwards by default or by default.
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  Sounds the right word, right? Whatever, We're moving on
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  anyway, Joe, give us your next loser.
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  See that transition there? Well, actually, so I'm going to
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  actually go to a winner because we were.
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  Talking about, sure you get to. So I want to stay on the topic
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  of the Rams for a minute. So yeah, please.
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  I feel like, I feel like the Rams are like Thanos right now
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  trying to collect all the Infinity Stones.
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  Absolutely. And the 13th pick in the NFL
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  draft is the last stone. They've got Matthew Stafford,
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  Pukunukua, Devante Adams, Trent Mcduffie, and a stacked
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  defensive line. And the moment that they make
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  that pick at 13 is like the moment that Thanos rips that
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  division's head and puts it in the Infinity Gauntlet.
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  The Rams are absolutely loaded right now.
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  And so I think they're they are one of the biggest winners of
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  free agency and they are probably the Super Bowl
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  favorites right now. But just remember, we did end up
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  getting his head cut off by Thor.
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  So I don't know what that means for the Rams, but you know what
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  that really like. That was after the snap.
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  OK? He snapped his fingers.
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  Santos did what he wanted to do. But that could mean after the
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  regular season and then the plot, I don't know.
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  Santos accomplished his goal. He created balance.
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  He got rid of half of all the people, created the balance, he
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  achieved his goal. He was defeated, sure.
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  And in the end, Matthew Stafford will retire.
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  Maybe. I've actually seen multiple
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  things where it's the Rams are building to win right now with
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  this most likely Stafford's last year.
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  And so they are building to give him one heck of a send off,
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  right? Byron Murphy?
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  Nope, try again. Byron Young came out and said in
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  a. You're just getting all the
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  wrong people. Yeah, I'm.
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  I'm heavens, there's a reason I couldn't.
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  Anyway, Byron Young came out and said they had a defensive line
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  meeting and the the meeting was essentially this is Stafford
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  last year, we have to play better as a defensive line unit.
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  And so like they're already, I mean, we are barely in.
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  Yeah, we're into the league season now.
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  We're barely into the league season and they're already
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  talking about, hey, we weren't good enough last year.
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  The defensive line is probably the best part of the Rams
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  defense and they're like, we're not good enough.
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  We need to get better. OK, we're bringing all these
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  pieces behind us. We don't even we shouldn't even
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  need them. Let's just get to the
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  quarterback faster. Let's just be better on the
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  defensive line. And so they're they're they're
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  just stockpiling right now to to give it their own win, just like
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  the Buccaneers did with with Brady his last year.
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  Yeah, just like. And they're so Broncos did,
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  yeah, just like the Broncos did with Peyton Manning in his last
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  year. You're making all these moves
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  because you've got this, this maybe first ballot Hall of
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  Famer, who knows anymore and a quarterback who who has a shot
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  to just win one more on his way out the door.
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  And, and so they're trying to give it to him.
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  And I and, and so my winner is going to be Chris Shua, Rams
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  defensive coordinator, who who saw the need, was not unaware of
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  it. That's that's my worst fear.
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  And my, my least favorite part about some of these NFL coaches
• 19:09
  is that they have obvious needs and obvious holes in their game,
• 19:15
  whether it be offensive line or secondary or whatever it may be,
• 19:19
  whatever unit it is. And they just ignore the fact
• 19:24
  that everyone's talking about it.
• 19:27
  And it's, it's very common as NFL fandoms to be to pinpoint
• 19:31
  certain things. Oh, our offensive line is bad,
• 19:34
  our running backs are bad. We need this, we need that.
• 19:36
  But I feel like maybe it's this whole offseason really.
• 19:39
  I feel like maybe more so than other years, teams are targeting
• 19:43
  specific pieces to make their coaching Staffs have better
• 19:47
  players. And I, I, yes, that happens
• 19:49
  every offseason. I know that's what free agency
• 19:51
  is. We need better players to help
• 19:53
  our coaches that I feel like it's been even more so we're not
• 19:56
  just trying to get the best people, we're trying to get the
• 19:58
  right fit. How many, how many free agents
• 20:00
  did the Raiders even sign this year?
• 20:02
  They got so 280 something, $1,000,000 just in the Raiders
• 20:05
  team. Tom Brady, you got his hand in
• 20:07
  there and said we need to be better right now.
• 20:09
  We've got we've got Ashton Genti, we've got Fernando
• 20:12
  Mendoza coming in, most likely. In April, we have to get an
• 20:17
  offensive line, we have to get receivers, we have to get people
• 20:20
  in the door. And so I think Chris Shula at
• 20:23
  the end of the season, everyone was talking about how bad the
• 20:25
  Rams secondary was. He's like, whoa, fine, stop
• 20:28
  talking about it. Let's get this guy, this guy,
• 20:30
  this guy resigned Cam Curl, we get Trent Mcduffy, get General
• 20:34
  Watson, bring these guys in here and let's let's do it.
• 20:38
  Stop talking about my. Drafts Mack Lemon.
• 20:41
  At this point, at this point, yes, honestly, let's Devonte
• 20:45
  Adams he's he's coming to his he's got two more years left in
• 20:50
  his contract. Excuse me, he's not in his last
• 20:52
  year. He's got two more years left in
• 20:53
  his contract. But who better to learn under
• 20:56
  than the guy who had what 12-1 yard touchdowns last year in the
• 21:01
  red zone? Demon just just tore it up in
• 21:03
  the red zone last year. Why would you not want to learn
• 21:06
  from that guy? And so I think they're doing all
• 21:09
  the right things. I am.
• 21:10
  I'm still incredibly torn on what I want the Rams, what I
• 21:14
  would like the Rams to do at pick 13.
• 21:16
  I have no idea. I'm just going to sit I've.
• 21:19
  Heard a lot of Spencer Fano Tuck.
• 21:21
  Yeah, I don't like. That like, like seriously, I'm
• 21:23
  not joking. Yes, I know, I know, I know.
• 21:25
  I've seen it a lot and I don't like it.
• 21:27
  And it's too bad that Monroe Freeling has just skyrocketed up
• 21:30
  the boards, because that's pushing.
• 21:32
  Oh, I think you'll be there at 13.
• 21:34
  I really do. The only the only team I see
• 21:36
  that could take him is the Browns.
• 21:38
  Honestly, if the Browns don't take him, I think he'll be there
• 21:40
  at 13. But still, with him sky rocking
• 21:44
  up the boards, it's pushing Phano down to the Rams and I
• 21:48
  just it'll be fine. It's just not what it's just and
• 21:52
  it's not even because it's an offensive lineman.
• 21:54
  It's not a sexy pick. I just don't think he's that
• 21:56
  good. So, but hey, what do I go?
• 21:59
  I look like this, What do I go? All right, well, let's stick
• 22:04
  with the winners since we're on the topic of winners right now.
• 22:07
  And you mentioned the Raiders. I think the Raiders won free
• 22:09
  agency. The Raiders needed to build
• 22:11
  their offensive line to make life easier for Fernando
• 22:14
  Mendoza, and they did exactly that by signing center Tyler
• 22:17
  Linderbaum to a three-year, $81 million contract.
• 22:20
  All of a sudden, the Raiders offensive line actually looks
• 22:22
  pretty good. And then there's the other moves
• 22:24
  they made. They signed linebackers Nicobe
• 22:26
  Dean and Kobe Walker. They signed edge rusher Kwitty
• 22:28
  Pay. They signed receiver Jaylen
• 22:30
  Naylor. And best of all, they signed
• 22:32
  kicker Matt Gay. But going into free agency, the
• 22:36
  Raiders knew they had to get better on the offensive line and
• 22:39
  they 100% did that in free agency.
• 22:41
  So I think they are a big winners of free agency this year
• 22:45
  and they get to keep Max Crosby. I think that's a win.
• 22:48
  All right, maybe they are currently on track to keep Max
• 22:51
  Crosby. All right, it's going to.
• 22:52
  It's hard to go back. Sounds like he's going to stay.
• 22:54
  Yeah, it but it's hard to go back into that building that A
• 22:57
  didn't want you to play at the end of last season, B traded you
• 23:01
  away for the new hot young thing.
• 23:03
  Here's two first round picks. All right, good.
• 23:05
  Here's this guy, go take him whatever.
• 23:07
  And so it's hard to to walk back in that facility.
• 23:10
  But the day that he got, I don't want to say that rejected is the
• 23:15
  best word, I guess. Rejected from the the Ravens the
• 23:18
  very next day, Wednesday morning, 6:00 AM, he reported
• 23:21
  into the Raiders facility. Like that is a professional
• 23:25
  move. This is my job.
• 23:27
  That it didn't go this way. It's going this way and I'm
• 23:30
  going to be a professional about it.
• 23:32
  And that that speaks a lot to him.
• 23:34
  I mean, I we talked about it a lot.
• 23:36
  He is like the Raider himself. Matt Flower, Joe Sheepers.
• 23:41
  Joe Flacco was the Raven like looked like a Raven.
• 23:45
  Max Crosby looks like the like a Raider.
• 23:49
  And so he just has that fit. And so I, I like him in in Las
• 23:54
  Vegas. I think he would be wonderful if
• 23:56
  he I would be wonderful if he stayed.
• 23:58
  I, I it would it that him staying raises the entire AFC
• 24:03
  West by a lot. I think with him leaving, the
• 24:06
  Raiders are right back in the same spot.
• 24:08
  We're going to be fourth in the West and, and who knows?
• 24:11
  But, and this is not an actual joke with him staying, they
• 24:14
  could get third or seconds and and have a real shot of not
• 24:18
  being pick number one or pick a top five pick again for like the
• 24:22
  20th year in a row. It's not actually 20.
• 24:24
  I know. Although having the top pick
• 24:27
  next year is not the worst thing in the.
• 24:29
  World no. It's everybody's trying to
• 24:31
  stockpile 2027 draft picks right now.
• 24:34
  I just think it's. Trying to get Jeremiah Smith.
• 24:37
  Yeah, although again, I've said this before, he's he's going to
• 24:40
  be the best prospect. He will not be the number one
• 24:43
  pick. Probably not, but or yeah,
• 24:45
  they're trying to get Arch Manning.
• 24:46
  That's what they're trying to get.
• 24:48
  That's a player playing next season.
• 24:53
  Anyways, let's go back to the losers.
• 24:55
  And I want to tell you who my loser is, Will.
• 24:57
  And then this has to do with the trade that happened.
• 25:00
  So I want to know what you think of this after I go.
• 25:04
  Through it so. OK, so for me, one of the losers
• 25:08
  I have a free agency is the Denver Broncos.
• 25:10
  The Broncos were the only team in the NFL to not sign one
• 25:13
  single outside free agent during the first week of free agency.
• 25:16
  They signed a bunch of their own free agents, but not one single
• 25:19
  outside free agent. And then this week they give up
• 25:21
  a first and a third round pick for Jalen Waddle.
• 25:24
  I like Jalen Waddle, but giving up a first and a third round
• 25:27
  pick to me is too much. And you want to know why it's
• 25:30
  too much? Because we just saw George
• 25:31
  Pickens get traded for a third round pick last year.
• 25:34
  And I understand that we just saw DJ Morgan get traded for a
• 25:36
  second round pick, but that was also too much.
• 25:39
  We also just saw Michael Pitman Junior get traded for a sixth
• 25:42
  round pick and the Steelers got a 7th in return.
• 25:45
  And there's no way that the Broncos had to give up a first
• 25:48
  and a third round pick to get Waddle.
• 25:50
  The Broncos could have made a push to get Mike Evans in free
• 25:52
  agency. He went to the 49ers because
• 25:54
  because he said they were one piece away from the Super Bowl.
• 25:57
  Well, the Broncos were literally one piece of bone Nix's ankle
• 25:59
  away from the Super Bowl. So not only did the Broncos give
• 26:02
  up picks for Waddle, but they're paying him more than other guys
• 26:06
  they could have had. It just feels like there were
• 26:08
  other teams at the Broncos had to like outbid, but I just don't
• 26:11
  think that's true. There's no other team that would
• 26:14
  have offered anything close to what the Broncos gave up.
• 26:17
  And so, to me, the Broncos lost. I agree with that actually.
• 26:21
  And that was like first thing this morning I said that that
• 26:24
  that snapped or snippet to you guys with that.
• 26:27
  I mean, it's trading on 1st or excuse me, Bronco is trading.
• 26:33
  Oh golly, Miami receives. So they they got Denver's first
• 26:39
  and they're trading away. Oh, and their third and fourth
• 26:42
  round picks this year and dolphins are sending a fourth
• 26:44
  and one. And so like you said, it's the
• 26:46
  first and 3rd. I need a more picks so that make
• 26:49
  it make sense in my brain. You're right though, and we just
• 26:53
  don't see unless you're like the elite of elites in the NFL right
• 26:59
  now, you just don't see people going for that high that they're
• 27:03
  that much value. And you, you listed off so many
• 27:07
  examples of that just not happening.
• 27:09
  I, I don't even know what else to say.
• 27:11
  I it's just one of these things where the, the Dolphins also
• 27:16
  loses a free agency. They're paying.
• 27:18
  It's like 200 and 50 million. Hold on, I can get it pulled up
• 27:24
  here. They are paying are.
• 27:27
  You talking about what they're paying waddle?
• 27:29
  No, no, no, no. What they're paying in players
• 27:31
  to not play on their team this year.
• 27:33
  Oh, the dolphin. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 27:34
  They're paying like 175,000,000. Yeah, 175,000,000.
• 27:37
  So they're paying 256,000,000. They're paying Bradley Trev 31
• 27:40
  million, Tyree Hill 28 million, Jane Ramsey 20 million, Maker
• 27:44
  Fitzpatrick 12.9 million. And that's just their top five.
• 27:48
  There's like 17 more people they're paying to and not be on
• 27:52
  the team, including Zach Wilson, mind you, he made the list.
• 27:56
  They're they're paying so much money for people to not be on
• 27:59
  their team that they had to just get rid of his contract.
• 28:02
  That's all there was, was let's see what we can do to get rid of
• 28:05
  his contract. And we saw Dallas do this with
• 28:09
  defensive tackle Quay Walker. Am I saying what I will do?
• 28:14
  Dallas traded. Dallas, Dallas Dallas traded the
• 28:18
  me and who they traded to the 49ers.
• 28:20
  No, no, Dallas traded to Green Bay late round pick for
• 28:24
  defensive tackle and not talking about yeah, it was in the IT was
• 28:28
  this offseason. I know they traded away one
• 28:32
  year. Excuse me?
• 28:33
  Yep, it wasn't. Tackle.
• 28:36
  That's why that's what you said in the wrong.
• 28:38
  Position. Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep.
• 28:39
  OK, let's start this over. We've seen it recently with,
• 28:41
  with these veteran cap cuts that Dallas got edge rusher Rashawn
• 28:47
  Gary from the Packers for a fourth round pick because the
• 28:51
  Packers couldn't pay him. And so it was a cap cut.
• 28:54
  And, and so if if that's what the Dolphins are doing, which it
• 28:57
  seems like it with all of the money they're having to pay out
• 29:00
  to everyone to not be on their team anymore, the Packers clear
• 29:03
  $11 million in salary cap for a fourth round pick.
• 29:07
  And so the Dolphins, they just fleeced the Broncos.
• 29:12
  There's no other way to put that.
• 29:14
  Hey, we got to get rid of Waddle.
• 29:16
  Let's just. We want our first.
• 29:18
  Sure, we'll give you a first, but you have to give us 4th.
• 29:22
  Fine. You have to give us a fourth and
• 29:23
  a third. Yeah.
• 29:25
  OK. That seems fair.
• 29:26
  Like, what do we do It What? What?
• 29:28
  So it's just, it happens a lot with these these veteran trades
• 29:34
  where teams have to just cut money.
• 29:36
  And so you're getting out any value you can.
• 29:39
  And the the Dolphins won that trade.
• 29:43
  I think they lost the rest of free agency cutting to cutting
• 29:47
  all these guys. And they're just, they're paying
• 29:49
  so much money out. Yeah.
• 29:52
  And just to go back to the example with Mike Evans real
• 29:54
  quick. So I know Mike Evans is a
• 29:57
  different type of receiver than Jalen Waddle, but the reason I
• 30:00
  brought Mike Evans up is because Mike Evans, one of the things he
• 30:03
  wanted was the chance to win another Super Bowl.
• 30:05
  Well, the Broncos, like I said, we're literally one piece of
• 30:08
  Bonex's ankle away from going to the Super Bowl.
• 30:12
  And so if the Broncos really wanted to get Mike Evans, they
• 30:15
  could have got Mike. I feel like they could have got
• 30:17
  Mike Evans because they have the defense to get it done.
• 30:20
  And they were so close to going to the Super Bowl.
• 30:23
  Mike Evans is making 14, $1,000,000 less than Jalen
• 30:28
  Waddle, and if they would have just pushed hard to get Mike
• 30:30
  Evans, they wouldn't have had to give up any draft picks.
• 30:33
  That's why I don't like this trade is because there were
• 30:36
  other guys they could have gone after where they could have
• 30:39
  given up way less or not giving up anything at all if you just
• 30:42
  pay him. But now they're paying more, $14
• 30:46
  million more for another receiver where they also had to
• 30:50
  give up a first and a third round draft pick.
• 30:52
  It just doesn't make any sense to me.
• 30:54
  I'm listening, I swear to you, Avery just asked for the link to
• 30:57
  our show. Hey, send me the link.
• 30:59
  I have to get into our show. My laptop's not working.
• 31:06
  Oh geez. I thought I had it here.
• 31:08
  I don't have it saved because I don't need it saved because I'm
• 31:11
  in the show. It's on the discord.
• 31:19
  Oh, it's a Discord message. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:21
  Yeah, I'll try and pull it up real quick.
• 31:24
  I got it right here. That's 10.
• 31:26
  That's all right. This is great podcasting.
• 31:31
  This is great podcasting. All right, at least we're going
• 31:37
  to get our third set of balls back, so it'll feel right again
• 31:41
  it. Will feel right again.
• 31:42
  All right, well, before Avery hops on, why don't you give us
• 31:45
  one more free agency, loser, and then we'll we'll get one from
• 31:49
  Avery real quick. Can I give a winner instead?
• 31:51
  Sure, because I've got a winner that you're going to like.
• 31:53
  Actually, my winner here is the 2026 New York Ravens.
• 32:00
  I mean, Giants, Jim Harbaugh went to the right to the Giants
• 32:04
  and just took, just took Baltimore with him.
• 32:07
  It seems like everyone except Lamar.
• 32:09
  No, no, no, I everyone obviously.
• 32:11
  But the the Giants made so many positive moves and and if they
• 32:17
  can stay healthy next year with Malik neighbors and Cam Scatibu
• 32:20
  staying healthy, they're currently I've seen multiple
• 32:23
  mock shoot them drafting Jeremiah love to pair him in the
• 32:26
  backfield with Cam Scatibu and a real speed and bruiser tandem.
• 32:32
  That would be that would be crazy.
• 32:34
  It'd be like Jonathan Stewart. No, it'd be like Christian
• 32:36
  McCaffrey. Excuse me, too far back in the
• 32:39
  Panthers, Christian McCaffrey and Mike Tolbert, where you've
• 32:42
  got the speed and the power. It's like, all right, we get to
• 32:44
  the one yard line, give it to Tolbert.
• 32:46
  That's what that would be like, so I think.
• 32:48
  That we on his phone right now I'm.
• 32:50
  On my phone. Oh my gosh, dude.
• 32:56
  Can you? Can you turn the landscape?
• 32:59
  Yes. But you actually have to do it.
• 33:02
  Now you're just sideways. Just look at me some turn.
• 33:09
  Did that work? Is that working?
• 33:11
  No. No, it worked.
• 33:13
  No, it's good. It's good.
• 33:14
  It's good. Is it or are you just saying
• 33:16
  that? No, it's good just.
• 33:19
  Snag me just leave it just leave it just leave it like that it's.
• 33:24
  My boys. Oh geez.
• 33:30
  Dude, I don't even want to get into it.
• 33:32
  You would take the rest of this episode been on the road.
• 33:37
  Favorite and least favorite free agency moves?
• 33:40
  Oh, I thought Max Crosby to the Ravens was pretty sweet.
• 33:46
  And then I thought him going back to the Raiders was even
• 33:50
  sweeter. I liked.
• 33:52
  I know you guys talked about Jalen Waddle.
• 33:54
  I don't know what your guys's verdict on that was, but I
• 33:58
  actually like that. I think he will find a good life
• 34:02
  in Denver and I think that both teams got what they needed.
• 34:06
  I know Denver hasn't done much at all in free agency, but I
• 34:11
  don't think they really needed to as much.
• 34:15
  Not to say I think they still should have, but I think the
• 34:18
  Dolphins got what they needed for a rebuild and the Broncos
• 34:21
  got what they needed for Bonex. So All in all, I like, I like
• 34:26
  that trade. I don't think either one lost
• 34:29
  necessarily. I wish the Bucks had done a lot
• 34:32
  more. I'm surprised to see that the
• 34:35
  Titans, I believe the Titans have spent more than the
• 34:37
  Raiders, which I didn't know was possible.
• 34:39
  I thought the Raiders would blow everyone else out of the water,
• 34:41
  I think. If we had an extra 30 minutes,
• 34:44
  Avery, I would go over all the reasons why I think the Bucks
• 34:48
  actually had a good free agency. So maybe we can talk about that
• 34:51
  later. We'll talk about because I, I, I
• 34:54
  put a lot of effort into that because I thought it might come
• 34:56
  up, but it would literally take the rest of the show, so.
• 34:59
  I I have to hop off in 15 minutes.
• 35:02
  Avery missed the first part of the show.
• 35:04
  He he used to make up for his time.
• 35:06
  We're out. We're paying hourly here.
• 35:08
  Is it? All stay on.
• 35:10
  I'll stay on after you guys get off and then do like a 40 minute
• 35:14
  just freestyle. Just just riffing, just giving
• 35:19
  my thoughts. It'll drift to basketball and
• 35:21
  stuff because no one's here to like rein me back in.
• 35:24
  Dude, I was on the road for so long.
• 35:30
  It would be good. It'd be good content if someone
• 35:32
  just, it's just like the show is ended but Avery's still on and
• 35:35
  I'm just like trying to monologue.
• 35:37
  I was on the road for like 2 1/2 hours and I probably was driving
• 35:42
  for about an hour of it. That was horrific.
• 35:45
  I've never experienced that yet. I've not been on the road that
• 35:47
  long. That was, it was also like the
• 35:49
  worst things were happening around the road.
• 35:52
  There were constant wrecks everywhere.
• 35:53
  I don't know what was going on. There's not been any bad
• 35:56
  weather. Weather is actually very
• 35:57
  beautiful right now. And I kept pushing his back.
• 35:59
  This was supposed to start, what, an hour, an hour and a
• 36:03
  half ago? And then I was like, make it
• 36:04
  start an hour ago. And then I was like, I'll be
• 36:06
  here in 1/2 hour. And then I wasn't there.
• 36:09
  And I was like, give me like 20 more minutes.
• 36:10
  And then even then, I was still late.
• 36:13
  And what else did you say? What else did you say?
• 36:15
  What else did I say? Yeah, what other text did you
• 36:18
  send us? Avery, Oh, I've already added.
• 36:26
  I mean, you can count this or not.
• 36:28
  I'll say it, I'll say it. I said my girlfriend's you.
• 36:33
  Mean that's not your friend. I wasn't trying to blow you
• 36:35
  under. The bus with your.
• 36:36
  Girlfriend. Not that part.
• 36:37
  Not that part. Well, you called.
• 36:39
  You, I wasn't trying to throw you under the bus with your
• 36:40
  girlfriend, buddy. I'm going to leave that in so
• 36:43
  hopefully she doesn't. What did you say that wasn't?
• 36:47
  What you said about you. I said blame Alex and her dumb
• 36:52
  bitch Asian. Friend, Yeah, you're making this
• 36:59
  so much worse for yourself. You're you're making this so
• 37:04
  much worse. That was or.
• 37:06
  There is so much. Worse, So much worse than it
• 37:09
  needs to be. Well.
• 37:11
  All I know is that she couldn't find she had an Airbnb and she
• 37:15
  thought there were no more keys that that the tenant didn't
• 37:18
  leave them. They did because it's part of
• 37:20
  the following the rules and they had never, they had misplaced
• 37:24
  their other keys because they gave it to their in laws who
• 37:27
  lost it. And so we had to go and find it.
• 37:30
  We had to drive over there. I thought it was an 8 minute
• 37:33
  drive, so 16 minutes total. It was 15 to 18 there and back.
• 37:38
  And then it, it, it got out of hand and I was just, I was like
• 37:42
  this bitch. I threw her under the bus.
• 37:47
  But it was. My.
• 37:48
  Hope she doesn't. Listen to this.
• 37:51
  Alex will listen to this. She'll be like, where is where
• 37:54
  is Avery? Why is he not on this episode?
• 37:56
  I thought he was on this episode and then.
• 37:57
  She'll and hopefully she'll turn it off.
• 37:59
  Hopefully she'll turn it off before she gets to this part.
• 38:02
  Yeah, Then she'll see me and then be like, oh, yeah, what?
• 38:06
  Where were you? And then I'm like her bitch
• 38:08
  Asian friend who lives in California, and she'll be like,
• 38:11
  that's right. She agreed.
• 38:12
  She'll agree with me. She won't even be upset about
• 38:14
  it. If her bitch Asian friend sees
• 38:16
  this, she'll probably be upset, but she'll also know that we did
• 38:19
  her a huge solid and she needs to get her keys copied so that
• 38:23
  we don't have to drive over there to make sure that her job
• 38:26
  is being done right. So.
• 38:29
  I'm so glad we're recording. It's all love.
• 38:32
  All love though. OK, well Will has to go soon, so
• 38:37
  let's get into some scouting reports real quick before Will
• 38:40
  has to hop off. Let's do it.
• 38:41
  And then Avery, maybe we can talk about some Bucks free
• 38:44
  agency after all, right. So we'll move on to some
• 38:48
  scouting reports. And So what we've been doing is
• 38:50
  going through ESPN's top 50 big board and moving down the list
• 38:53
  one through 50. But ESPN has recently updated
• 38:56
  their big board and moved a lot of players around.
• 38:58
  So today we're going to be doing scouting reports for a couple
• 39:02
  different guys. We had three planned.
• 39:04
  I don't think we're going to get through three.
• 39:05
  Hopefully we can do 2 while Will is still here with us.
• 39:08
  So if we don't get through all three, we'll do the other one
• 39:10
  probably next week. And so Will and I decided the
• 39:13
  two we were going to try and do is Penn State Ygard Venga Yuane
• 39:17
  and Ohio State defensive tackle Kaden McDonald.
• 39:21
  And so previously, those two guys ranked 22nd and.
• 39:24
  I'm so sorry. Yes, I'm so sorry Travis.
• 39:28
  HN made me think, made me think of this.
• 39:32
  I have heard Vega Awani. I have heard his name pronounced
• 39:37
  5 different ways. Listen, if you are, if you are a
• 39:42
  prospect going into a media centered job, whether it be
• 39:49
  sports or entertainment of any genre, even Canadian Football
• 39:54
  League, it's actually pronounced McMurray, not McMurray.
• 39:58
  Just make sure you get the official pronunciation out there
• 40:02
  early. That way we're not calling you
• 40:05
  Robbie Gould for 20 or 10 years and it's actually Robbie Gould.
• 40:10
  What's? There is a video of Bango Yuane
• 40:14
  saying his name, that's why I'm pronouncing it the way I am
• 40:16
  because I heard him actually. Say that way spread because I
• 40:20
  heard so many people different, even PFF, the two guys in the
• 40:23
  PFF show say it different ways in their own Dang show.
• 40:27
  Get it out there and get it out there properly early.
• 40:30
  That way everyone can say it properly.
• 40:32
  Is one of those that is one of those guys, Trevor Sikkima?
• 40:35
  I don't know. There's one skinny white dude.
• 40:37
  Skinny white dude. Anyway, his name is pronounced,
• 40:43
  well, his first name. I'm shortening his first name.
• 40:46
  I'm shortening his first name to Venga there.
• 40:49
  It's actually Vega is how white people say it.
• 40:52
  But yeah, Venga is how you actually say it.
• 40:55
  So it's Venga Yoani is how you say his name According to him,
• 40:59
  so that's why I'm saying it that way.
• 41:01
  Anyways, Wenger Yuane previously ranked 22nd on the big board,
• 41:05
  now he ranks 5th. And Katie McDonald previously
• 41:08
  ranked 24th, now he ranks 21st. So these guys have been moved
• 41:13
  around. But let's just go ahead and
• 41:16
  start with the 5th overall player on the big board
• 41:18
  currently, which is Penn State guard Vengo Yuane.
• 41:21
  And Will. I usually have you go first with
• 41:23
  the offensive lineman, but I wanted to do something a little
• 41:25
  bit different today. I would like Avery and I to go
• 41:28
  first and then see if you agree or disagree with us on this
• 41:31
  prospect. Yes.
• 41:33
  So I'll start. I think Vengo Yuane is an elite
• 41:36
  pass protector. It seems like he can counter any
• 41:39
  pass rush move that a defender will throw at it.
• 41:42
  I saw a ton of plays where a defender would get their first
• 41:44
  move, shut down and then they try something else and then he'd
• 41:47
  shut that down too. His ability to mirror what
• 41:50
  defensive lineman are doing I think is elite.
• 41:52
  He's got a really good anchor and he does not get pushed back
• 41:55
  into the quarterback and he's always keeping the pocket clean.
• 41:58
  I know he's an interior offensive lineman and teams
• 42:01
  don't value that high up in the draft, but I think he's got a
• 42:04
  good case to be the best offensive lineman in this draft.
• 42:08
  I really like his contact balance.
• 42:10
  I think there were a lot of times on film where I saw a play
• 42:12
  ends with a defender on the ground and him either standing
• 42:15
  over them or he was on top of them because he can play through
• 42:18
  the contact and they couldn't. And once he gets his hands on
• 42:21
  you, you're done. He has an elite grip strength to
• 42:24
  latch onto defenders, and he does not let go.
• 42:27
  He's got the power in his hands and his hips to drive you either
• 42:30
  down the field or to the ground. And I know nobody likes their
• 42:34
  team to draft offensive lineman in the first round, But if Vengo
• 42:37
  Yuwane ends up on your team, do not be disappointed because
• 42:40
  Vengo Yuwane is a beast. Yeah, no.
• 42:43
  I. I agree with Joel, in fact.
• 42:45
  I mean, I saw this guy play and then I watched some of that game
• 42:48
  tape from the Oregon Penn State game.
• 42:51
  He just looks like a pro. He looks like he has the tools
• 42:55
  to be a professional offensive lineman.
• 42:59
  He he, he, he looks like a just a consummate professional.
• 43:03
  Jenga. Jenga Umami to me is someone who
• 43:07
  I think, oh. My gosh.
• 43:11
  Oh, hey, Mr. That's my job, OK? That's my job.
• 43:14
  I'm back. Yeah, I I, I do I By the way, I
• 43:21
  do think it's funny that a Mega had that tweet, or maybe he
• 43:24
  didn't saying is CTE even real when his name got pronounced a
• 43:29
  Mega egg Big Boo by the one guy who definitely has CTE.
• 43:33
  Like. He of all people should know,
• 43:38
  but no, I, I think I, I think he, I think he, he just looks
• 43:42
  like a safe pick to me. And I think for an offensive
• 43:46
  line, that's kind of what you want, unlike maybe certain skill
• 43:50
  positions where you think, you know, high ceiling but low
• 43:52
  floor. I think this guy is just like
• 43:54
  the, his ceiling and floor are very close to one another.
• 43:58
  And I think he, just like Joel said, he just, he looks
• 44:01
  reliable, He looks sturdy, he looks competent.
• 44:04
  And for an offensive lineman, I think consistency is is really
• 44:08
  what you want. Yeah, So will tell us if you
• 44:10
  agree or disagree with that and I know you love to hate on guys,
• 44:14
  so give us some of the things you don't like about.
• 44:15
  It let me tell you, oh, I could not be happier right now.
• 44:19
  I agree with you guys for the most parts.
• 44:22
  He has had 0 sacks in the last two years.
• 44:25
  In the last two years, he's allowed fourteen quarterback
• 44:28
  pressures, one this last year, 175 snaps past walking Stamps,
• 44:33
  one pressure, no snaps, one penalty all season.
• 44:38
  This guy is the guy when it comes to interior offensive
• 44:42
  lineman, when it comes to offensive guards.
• 44:46
  Thank you for pulling this up, big body.
• 44:49
  See this says 4 pressures allowed.
• 44:51
  What I said said one pressure allowed.
• 44:53
  This is the problem with pressures as a stat is different
• 44:57
  people static differently. So you're going to get different
• 44:59
  answers. So that's we're going to have a
• 45:01
  little discrepancy here depending on on who's grading
• 45:03
  what 64325. I think he measured in at the
• 45:07
  combine at 3:23. I know obviously that's just he.
• 45:12
  Did he did I just ChatGPT put 325 so I didn't want to change
• 45:16
  it was. 2 lbs weight, weight's just going to vary for the rest
• 45:19
  of his career and then when he leaves NFL hopefully he drops
• 45:22
  about £150 like most of these offensive lineman do.
• 45:26
  He is strong as I'll get out when he gets his hands on you.
• 45:29
  He's not letting go my issues with him.
• 45:35
  This boy cheats. This boy cheats so much.
• 45:40
  Oh my gosh does this boy cheat. He great feet.
• 45:45
  I saw this one, this one guy said it's it's shoes under
• 45:49
  shorts blocking for him and that is the absolute truth.
• 45:53
  He keeps his feet under him. He keeps everything in front of
• 45:57
  him. The problem is, is that on run
• 45:59
  blocking, he wants to hit you and then lay on you and, and to
• 46:05
  me that's that is good. I guess you're taking one of the
• 46:08
  people out of it, but you're also taking yourself out of it.
• 46:11
  He wants to make the hit and then make sure you stay down,
• 46:14
  but then you take yourself out of it.
• 46:15
  If the defensive guy is on the ground, chances are very low
• 46:19
  they're making the play. Not 0, but very low they're
• 46:21
  going to make the play. He should have been called for
• 46:24
  so many holding penalties. Every other snap he's pulling
• 46:29
  jerseys, he's doing all this stuff.
• 46:31
  He keeps his hands inside the shoulder pads for the most part,
• 46:35
  and that's why he doesn't get called for it.
• 46:37
  But that kind of play until it's refined at the NFL level is not
• 46:43
  going to go well initially. He's going to.
• 46:46
  I will not be surprised if in combined workouts this offseason
• 46:51
  where two different teams are having combined practices, if he
• 46:55
  is involved in at least one fight because of the way he
• 46:59
  plays offensive line and that is what she wants from your
• 47:03
  interior offensive lineman is exactly what you want.
• 47:06
  I want a guy who's going to cause fights and and Vega Venga.
• 47:14
  Venga. Venga ulari umami gugari uwani.
• 47:24
  Umami Bugatti. He is the guy you wants if you
• 47:29
  honestly, if I were the Raiders, I would legitimately consider
• 47:33
  putting him right next to Tyler Lindenbaum.
• 47:35
  You need for Fernando Mendoza. Trade back up.
• 47:38
  Get him, get him, put him next to Lindenbaum, get yourself a
• 47:42
  stacked interior offensive line, pass blocking, solid run
• 47:48
  blocking. He needs to develop a bit more
• 47:50
  to get his hands for him and to keep his feet.
• 47:53
  He will make a hit and then if you're on the ground, he's going
• 47:56
  to just jump on you and that will just get called for
• 47:58
  unnecessary roughness or that will get called for whatever.
• 48:01
  It is going to cause fights because he's not going to be the
• 48:04
  biggest guy around in the NFL, but it is going to be he.
• 48:08
  He is a beast. He's an animal.
• 48:09
  He is very, very good. Yeah, I don't have anything else
• 48:13
  to add. I love, I really like Van Gogh.
• 48:15
  You want a lot? I do.
• 48:17
  If the Bucks dropped at him at 15, I would not be upset at all
• 48:20
  to be. Honest, you shouldn't be.
• 48:22
  I would like it. OK, settled then.
• 48:23
  All right. All right, he's the pick at 15.
• 48:27
  He's the pick, the pick's in. I'm so I'm so happy.
• 48:32
  Do you guys have? Anything else?
• 48:34
  Yeah, I know. Do you guys have anything else
• 48:36
  you want to add with Vengo Yuani?
• 48:39
  Nope. Packing shirt OK.
• 48:42
  We got like 5 minutes. So let's talk about Ohio State
• 48:45
  defensive tackle King McDonald, who is currently ranked as the
• 48:48
  number 21 player on the ESPN Top 50 Big Board.
• 48:51
  And I'd like to start this off with a question for you guys.
• 48:54
  So King McDonald had 64 tackles in 2025, which is a very high
• 48:59
  number of tackles for a defensive tackle.
• 49:01
  Do you think that's because he's just that good?
• 49:03
  Is it because he had players like Caleb Downs, Arville Reese,
• 49:05
  and Sonny Styles around him? Or is it a bit of both?
• 49:09
  Me or you, Avery? I'll, I'll go quick.
• 49:12
  I, I, I think it's a bit of both.
• 49:14
  On one hand, I do feel like the talent at Ohio State makes a lot
• 49:19
  of the other players look really good.
• 49:21
  And if it wasn't for the track record that Ohio State has of
• 49:24
  putting legitimate pros into the league, I would stick with that.
• 49:30
  But I, I do think I think he's a little bit of a riskier pick.
• 49:35
  I mean, he's obviously on the other side of the line here.
• 49:37
  Part of it is just that the little bit, like what you said
• 49:39
  here, often stops rushing when the first move doesn't work.
• 49:43
  That does kind of concern me a little bit.
• 49:45
  I like to see someone with a little bit more tenacity or even
• 49:49
  just more tricks up his sleeve to keep it going.
• 49:52
  I don't know if that's more of an effort thing or just a skill
• 49:55
  set issue or or what. But then again, I I do feel like
• 50:00
  even though these guys can look inflated because of the town
• 50:03
  they have around them, Ohio State is always putting out
• 50:06
  ridiculously good guys every single year.
• 50:09
  I have written down here Styles, Reese and Downs owe this man a
• 50:14
  lot how successful they were able to be.
• 50:17
  Teams didn't know where to go defensively or offensively
• 50:21
  against Ohio State. And if you run up the middle,
• 50:23
  you running into Kaden McDonald, you running the outside, you
• 50:26
  running into to Downs, Reese and Styles, you can't run anywhere
• 50:31
  against this team. And so I I think he actually was
• 50:34
  fifth on their team in tackles this year.
• 50:36
  As it, like you said, as a defensive tackle is unbelievably
• 50:40
  high. It is not your job.
• 50:41
  Your job is to stop the the stop the play from coming at the
• 50:44
  middle and force everything outside.
• 50:46
  Or we can use our 12th man the boundary to our advantage.
• 50:50
  McDonald didn't need that. Yeah, he may have stopped after
• 50:53
  the first move, but his first move worked so often he it's
• 50:58
  almost as if he was just like, oh, I don't know what to do now.
• 51:01
  I'm stronger than this guy. Why didn't I push him out of the
• 51:03
  way? What do I do next kind of thing?
• 51:06
  And so I like this guy a lot. I, I, I don't have anything else
• 51:12
  really to say about him. He, he's a bit slower than you
• 51:14
  want, but he's a defensive tackle.
• 51:16
  You don't need it. He's not Lee Hunter on athletic,
• 51:19
  but he's not, he's not like how do you know?
• 51:22
  I have to look at our board to see who's who's Lee.
• 51:25
  Hunter moved down ESP NS Big Board.
• 51:27
  Absolutely. He did.
• 51:30
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 51:32
  So. They watched the show.
• 51:35
  Big big fan? Yeah, big fan of Kaden McDonald.
• 51:38
  Me too. Yeah.
• 51:39
  When you breakdown Kid McDonald's tackle numbers, you
• 51:41
  see that he had 31 solo tackles and 34 assist tackles.
• 51:45
  So pretty much half of the time he was making the tackle by
• 51:48
  himself. McDonald isn't just out there
• 51:50
  taking up space. He's actively looking for and
• 51:53
  pursuing the ball carrier. And because he's doing that,
• 51:55
  he's often disrupting the play and making ball carriers go
• 51:58
  places that they didn't intend to go.
• 52:00
  So for me to give a player comparison, Kid McDonald reminds
• 52:04
  me a little bit of Vidavea. Vita is a little bit bigger than
• 52:07
  he is, but Vita Vea and Kate McDonald are very similar
• 52:11
  because they aren't there to just take up space, they're
• 52:14
  there to find the ball while taking up space.
• 52:17
  Katie McDonald is a phenomenal run defender who shows flashes
• 52:20
  of being a good interior pass rusher as well.
• 52:22
  Vita Veo has developed into a very good interior pass rushing
• 52:25
  presence throughout his career, and I think Katie McDonald can
• 52:28
  do the same thing. He had three sacks in 2025, so
• 52:31
  he's shown the ability to rush the passer from the interior,
• 52:34
  but he does need to learn how to counter when his first move is
• 52:37
  shut down because as we'll mentioned, he kind of just stops
• 52:41
  after that first move just doesn't work.
• 52:43
  But overall, he's shown that he has the potential to be a very
• 52:47
  good interior pass rusher in the NFL.
• 52:50
  And if your team is looking for help on the interior defensive
• 52:53
  line, they should absolutely target Kate and McDonald.
• 52:58
  Will Do you have to go. I do have to go, sorry guys.
• 53:01
  You want to give us a bye now y'all?
• 53:05
  Bye now y'all. Bye Will.
• 53:09
  See you guys. Then there we're 2.
• 53:13
  Right. So since Will is gone, we will
• 53:16
  wait to rank these these two guys until next week.
• 53:20
  We'll we'll wait on that. But Avery, I have a lot to say
• 53:24
  about the Buccaneers free agency moves and I actually really like
• 53:27
  them. So I want to know, I want to
• 53:30
  know first why you don't like it that much.
• 53:33
  For me, I was, I was just expecting more, I guess.
• 53:38
  I I think they still filled the holes they needed to, but I
• 53:41
  guess I was just seeing some of the bigger moves that other
• 53:45
  teams were making was kind of disappointing like to see that
• 53:48
  we weren't making as many. But then again, that's probably
• 53:51
  more flash over substance. My big thing though, ultimately
• 53:56
  is just, and this might just be reading into tabloids a little
• 54:00
  bit too much, but I really just don't like Todd Bowles as the
• 54:05
  head coach. I think he's a nice man Nobody.
• 54:08
  I just, and it's just one of those things, I feel like, I
• 54:12
  feel like Mike Evans left because of the direction the
• 54:16
  team was headed. Like that's what I feel like
• 54:18
  maybe he won't say that. Maybe it's unprofessional to say
• 54:21
  it. But.
• 54:22
  That's what it is in in the twilight of his career.
• 54:25
  He's probably just looking to win and he probably would have
• 54:28
  been still fine knowing like where the team was if there was
• 54:32
  more change. But to me, I just see like, OK,
• 54:36
  it was a mediocre season. And if you don't include the
• 54:39
  first part of the season, it was a terrible season.
• 54:42
  And so to me, like when you don't have changes, like cuz I
• 54:46
  can understand, there's been times, I mean, I'm fans of other
• 54:48
  team, I'm a fan of other teams. And I can see where it's like,
• 54:51
  OK, we had a bad season, but it was because of some injuries or
• 54:56
  some of the games just went the wrong way.
• 54:58
  Or there's some calls where it's like, OK, but like as soon as we
• 55:02
  get our ducks in a row, like it's going to turn around.
• 55:04
  We don't need to start, you know, reinventing the wheel
• 55:06
  here. But here it's like, OK, I don't
• 55:09
  know whether it's the leadership, it just feels
• 55:11
  passionless. It feels like he's just there.
• 55:14
  I don't know where he gets, where the front office or
• 55:18
  management or ownership is getting the confidence with this
• 55:22
  guy, where it's really just like, yeah, we don't want to
• 55:24
  keep switching it up. Maybe it's just you want to keep
• 55:26
  something there for a little bit to like, get it going.
• 55:28
  But to me, I just don't feel like this is the guy.
• 55:31
  I feel like we're at risk of losing Baker at some point soon,
• 55:34
  and then you kind of lose the whole heart and soul of the team
• 55:37
  and it worries me. So to me, I was expecting more
• 55:41
  from free agency and still the draft.
• 55:45
  What was that? That is my wife opening the
• 55:47
  garage. So disrespectful.
• 55:52
  Apparently she didn't know. That I was still on the podcast.
• 55:59
  Because I was talking Dad. Right to hear you.
• 56:03
  I couldn't hear. You normally I hear you.
• 56:06
  Wow. Anyway, all that to be said, I
• 56:08
  was expecting. I was expecting more and I
• 56:12
  should have known that like bulls was the really big thing I
• 56:15
  wanted and I didn't get it. That was my big wish list item
• 56:18
  and never got it so. I think it's very understandable
• 56:21
  to be disappointed with Todd Bowles.
• 56:23
  I, I don't think any Bucks fan wants Todd Bowles to be there,
• 56:27
  but I'm just basing these moves off of the moves themself
• 56:31
  because Todd Bowles is there. So that's the only that's like,
• 56:34
  I'm kind of leaving that out even though I hate it.
• 56:37
  He is there. And so I'm just basing the moves
• 56:39
  off of the moves themselves. So a lot of people are unhappy
• 56:44
  with how free agency went for the Buccaneers, but I actually
• 56:47
  disagree. And so I'll go through all the
• 56:49
  losses and, well, not all of them.
• 56:51
  I'll go through the key losses and the key ads for the Bucks,
• 56:54
  and I'll tell you why I actually like this.
• 56:56
  So the key losses, we'll start with those losing Mike Evans.
• 57:00
  I'm not attached to Mike Evans like most Bucks fans are, but I
• 57:03
  get it. He's a franchise legend.
• 57:04
  So the loss hurts. But guess what?
• 57:07
  You just drafted a wide receiver in the first round of last
• 57:09
  year's NFL Draft. And when you draft a wide
• 57:11
  receiver in the first round, you're expecting them to be a
• 57:13
  top wide receiver and a Mecca. Ibuka showed you flashes of
• 57:17
  being able to do that last year. So no more Mike Evans means that
• 57:20
  now is his time and that's why you drafted him.
• 57:23
  We lost corner Jamel Dean. Jamel Dean is a good corner, but
• 57:27
  I don't think he's anything special.
• 57:29
  He's also hurt a lot. He didn't miss a ton of games,
• 57:32
  but he was always playing hurt. It was expected that he was
• 57:35
  going to leave pretty much the entire year.
• 57:36
  And so the Bucks last NFL Draft as well, drafted two corners in
• 57:40
  the second and third round by taking Benjamin Morrison and
• 57:43
  Jacob Parrish. I don't think we saw what
• 57:45
  Morrison can really be last year because he was hurt for seven
• 57:48
  games. But when he was on the field, he
• 57:49
  didn't play bad. And then Jacob Parrish I really
• 57:52
  like a lot and I think he played really good last year.
• 57:55
  So this is kind of the same situation with Mike Evans
• 57:57
  leading. You drafted these guys for a
• 57:58
  reason. They showed you potential and
• 58:00
  now it's their time to step up with the additions.
• 58:04
  The Buccaneers brought six players in who weren't on the
• 58:06
  team last year. And so I'll go through each
• 58:08
  player and I'll tell you why I like them.
• 58:10
  So starting with linebacker Alex Anzalone, the linebacker play
• 58:14
  for this defense was not good last year.
• 58:16
  So what did they do? They brought in a good
• 58:18
  linebacker. Is Anceloni one of the best
• 58:21
  linebackers in the league? No.
• 58:23
  But is he a solid linebacker? Absolutely.
• 58:26
  He was a team captain for the Lions and he wore the green dot
• 58:28
  for them during his time there. And so he knows how to lead a
• 58:31
  defense. Did the Bucks get better at
• 58:33
  linebacker? Yes, because Anceloni makes them
• 58:36
  better. But do they need to get more
• 58:38
  than just Anceloni at linebacker?
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  Also yes. But it's a good start.
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  Then moving to running back Kenneth Gainwell.
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  I really like the signing because I think he's going to be
• 58:47
  big for the Buccaneers. Last season, Gainwell had over
• 58:50
  1000 total yards and eight touchdowns for the Steelers.
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  And now he steps into the RB2 role behind Bucky Irving to
• 58:55
  replace Rashad White, who sucks. So Gainwell gives you more than
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  Rashad White does from a running back and as a receiver in my
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  opinion. So I think he's an upgrade.
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  Then moving to defensive lineman A Shawn Robinson, the Bucks said
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  that one of their goals on defense this offseason was to
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  get bigger. So they lost Logan Hall, who was
• 59:14
  in that position before who is 66283.
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  They bring in Robinson who is 63320, so they got bigger.
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  Robinson also plays with a nastiness that was missing very
• 59:25
  much so from the Bucks defense last season.
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  So I think that is going to kind of change the attitude of the
• 59:31
  the entire defense having him on the defensive line.
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  Then they also brought in edge Alkadeen Muhammed, who had 11
• 59:37
  sacks last year for the Lions. I get that he played next to
• 59:41
  Aidan Hutchinson and Aidan Hutchinson took all the
• 59:43
  attention. But Bucks signed this guy to a
• 59:46
  one year, $6 million deal. That's actually a $4 million
• 59:49
  deal that could be 6,000,000 based on performance.
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  So the Bucks pass rush was bad last year.
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  We all know that. So everyone is looking at the
• 59:56
  fact that the Bucks didn't sign Trey Hendrickson, a free agency,
• 59:58
  and saying it's a loss. But what the Bucks didn't do is
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  sign a 31 year old pass rusher to a four year, $112 million
• 1:00:05
  contract that's worth 28 million a year.
• 1:00:08
  Instead, the Bucks went for the value that won't hurt them later
• 1:00:11
  down the road when a 35 year old player falls off.
• 1:00:15
  So them signing Al Qadim Muhammad to a $6 million deal is
• 1:00:18
  very good value because there there had to have been teams
• 1:00:22
  that were willing to give this guy more money.
• 1:00:24
  Aiden Hutchinson or not, he had 11 sacks and he's getting $6
• 1:00:28
  million a year. That is very good value in my
• 1:00:31
  opinion. Then moving to quarterback Jake
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  Browning. The Bucks brought in Jake
• 1:00:37
  Browning to back up Baker Mayfield after losing Teddy
• 1:00:39
  Bridgewater. Everyone saying that this move
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  sucks, but I actually really like it.
• 1:00:44
  Did Jake Browning play well last year?
• 1:00:46
  No, not at all. But did he play great in 2023?
• 1:00:50
  Yes, and at least Jake Browning is willing to go out there and
• 1:00:53
  sling the ball around. You do not get that with Teddy
• 1:00:56
  Bridgewater. Look at when Teddy Bridgewater
• 1:00:58
  was in for the Bucks this last season.
• 1:00:59
  He wasn't out there slinging the ball around like Baker, but Jake
• 1:01:02
  Browning can do that. So if Baker gets hurt, you now
• 1:01:05
  have a guy who plays more similar to Baker Mayfield than
• 1:01:08
  Teddy Bridgewater. And so you don't have to change
• 1:01:10
  your offense in that situation. And then finally, the Bucks
• 1:01:14
  brought in safety Miles Killebrew.
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  And the reason why that is important is because he is a
• 1:01:18
  special teams ace. He made the Pro Bowl as a
• 1:01:21
  special teamer in 23 and 24 and he was an all pro and special
• 1:01:25
  teams in 23. He didn't make it last year
• 1:01:27
  because he was hurt, but he is very good on special teams and
• 1:01:30
  the Bucks special teams was bad last year.
• 1:01:32
  The Bucks brought in their the new special teams coach and
• 1:01:35
  Danny Smith who came from the Steelers where Miles Killebrew
• 1:01:37
  came from. And so he said I need this guy.
• 1:01:40
  And they went and got him his guy.
• 1:01:42
  So in my opinion, with the six new guys they brought in, they
• 1:01:45
  got better at linebacker, they got better on the defensive
• 1:01:48
  line, they got better at running back, they got better at backup
• 1:01:50
  quarterback, and they got better on special teams.
• 1:01:53
  They got better at more positions than they got worse
• 1:01:55
  at. And to me, that's a win.
• 1:01:58
  I'm not going to sit here and say that the Bucks were winners
• 1:02:00
  of free agency, but I don't think that they were losers
• 1:02:03
  either. Yeah, no, that's I, I, I would
• 1:02:07
  agree. I, I, I do like those changes.
• 1:02:10
  I, I think for me, though, it's more just, it's like it does I,
• 1:02:15
  I do think those are smart moves.
• 1:02:17
  For me, it's more like I want to see more urgency because to me
• 1:02:23
  it's in part of this. It get it.
• 1:02:25
  It obviously always goes back to Bulls, but the beginning of last
• 1:02:30
  season showed how good this team could be.
• 1:02:34
  And I felt like the coaching let him down.
• 1:02:36
  I felt like injuries let him down.
• 1:02:39
  And so partially I, I, I just want to know, like, it didn't
• 1:02:43
  seem like there was really much of a response to that
• 1:02:46
  second-half of the season. Like you look at that and you're
• 1:02:49
  like, OK, I'm expecting big moves here.
• 1:02:52
  It's not like it's the last game and things fell apart.
• 1:02:55
  It's like, dude, it was the last 10 games that like everything
• 1:02:59
  fell apart and everyone is like, Kay, I'm expecting a big
• 1:03:04
  response this offseason. And to me this feels like what I
• 1:03:09
  would want to see from like the Broncos where it's like, oh,
• 1:03:13
  we're right on the cusp, let's just improve a few positions.
• 1:03:17
  Let's not let's not shake up the roster too much.
• 1:03:21
  So on one hand, I'm not like I'm for it.
• 1:03:25
  Didn't Jake Browning was he? I could be totally
• 1:03:27
  misremembering this. Didn't he throw like 5 picks in
• 1:03:30
  a game last season? Or is that someone else?
• 1:03:33
  Yeah, he threw a lot of interceptions last year.
• 1:03:36
  But I know that he's on, he's on, he's on the, you know, he's
• 1:03:39
  on the Cincinnati Bengals. And I mean, even what's his face
• 1:03:43
  couldn't even stay healthy. So like I I do, I do like that
• 1:03:47
  he's still throwing it. I like seeing that.
• 1:03:49
  I agree with that. I guess to me, like in the
• 1:03:53
  backup quarterback is a position, but to me, if your
• 1:03:56
  quarterback goes down, like it's already kind of a wash.
• 1:04:00
  Like, again, going back to basketball here, Caleb Wilson is
• 1:04:04
  the best freshman that Carolina's ever had and that's
• 1:04:07
  saying a lot. And when he went down, it
• 1:04:10
  doesn't really matter who's a backup.
• 1:04:11
  It's like this, the season's kind of over.
• 1:04:14
  Like you can win some games and they beat Duke miraculously, but
• 1:04:17
  that was with Caleb Wilson. But then after that, that it's
• 1:04:20
  like it's, it's like you can't unless you're the Eagles with
• 1:04:24
  Knowles, like you're not really expecting to go to the Super
• 1:04:27
  Bowl here. So to me, like the backup
• 1:04:29
  quarterback situation isn't that that big of a deal.
• 1:04:31
  I am at this point kind of holding my breath to see what
• 1:04:34
  they do in the draft because I felt like last year's draft went
• 1:04:38
  really well. I thought that Ibuka and even a
• 1:04:40
  Tez Johnson coming out, it's like, dude, we pick this up, we
• 1:04:44
  pick this guy up in garbage time.
• 1:04:46
  And so I, I, I like seeing what some of these guys can do.
• 1:04:50
  I'm hoping that it, that was intentional and it wasn't just
• 1:04:53
  lucky from their front office of picking the right guys.
• 1:04:56
  So I'm hoping that at least and maybe it's a little bit of a
• 1:05:00
  plan, trust or attitude, but I want to see that their free
• 1:05:04
  agency moves compliment who they draft.
• 1:05:09
  So I'm I'm at least hoping for that.
• 1:05:11
  And then the other thing is the frustrating thing for me is that
• 1:05:16
  I feel like the only way Coach Bowles gets fired is if they
• 1:05:19
  have another one more disappointing season.
• 1:05:21
  And I don't want to have another disappointing season, but I also
• 1:05:24
  don't want to be just above mediocre.
• 1:05:26
  So it's frustrating from the end of life.
• 1:05:29
  If they win. If they win, then both stays
• 1:05:31
  longer too. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:33
  And it gives them more leeway. And I'm just not a big fan of
• 1:05:36
  just staying in that middle section.
• 1:05:38
  I want to go for a coach that's that has that, you know, I want
• 1:05:42
  to say just that buzz or that excitement.
• 1:05:44
  But yeah, it's so it's that that is definitely been getting me
• 1:05:49
  down. But I do agree with what you're
• 1:05:51
  saying about those positions, about being able to fill, get
• 1:05:54
  better at these positions, answer these, you know, these
• 1:05:57
  holes that are there. But yeah, I guess for me, I just
• 1:06:00
  wanted to see bigger, bigger changes.
• 1:06:04
  But I do agree that those are still good ones.
• 1:06:06
  Yeah, and, and they were very much in on the Trey Hendrickson
• 1:06:09
  signing because Trey Hendrickson wanted to go to Tampa.
• 1:06:13
  They wanted a shorter term deal and Trey Hendrickson wanted a
• 1:06:16
  longer term deal. I like the fact though that they
• 1:06:19
  didn't go for the longer term deal because like I mentioned,
• 1:06:22
  he's going to be 35 at the end of that deal.
• 1:06:24
  And when when pass rushers are over that age, maybe they're
• 1:06:29
  still good, but you don't know. And Trey Hendrickson is coming
• 1:06:32
  off an injury from last season. The older you get, you're not
• 1:06:35
  going to get less injury prone, you're going to get more injury
• 1:06:38
  prone. So I actually like that they
• 1:06:41
  didn't sign him to like, if they would have signed him to a two
• 1:06:44
  year deal, like a shorter term deal, I would have loved it.
• 1:06:47
  But because they didn't sign into the longer term deal,
• 1:06:50
  actually like it. And, and again, it was $28
• 1:06:52
  million a year. So instead you're bringing in
• 1:06:55
  the guy who had 11 sacks for $6 million.
• 1:06:58
  Yep. So I I think they're, they made
• 1:07:01
  smart moves because Will, and I briefly mentioned this too,
• 1:07:05
  they're still kind of recovering from when they put everything
• 1:07:08
  into when Tom Brady was here, when they won the Super Bowl,
• 1:07:12
  because when Tom Brady came, they put everything into that
• 1:07:15
  team. They signed a whole bunch of
• 1:07:17
  guys, a whole bunch of money. And they are still kind of
• 1:07:19
  recovering from that. So I like that they are aware of
• 1:07:23
  that still, but they're still making signings that improve the
• 1:07:26
  team. Now, did they improve the team
• 1:07:29
  to compete with the Rams and Seahawks?
• 1:07:32
  No, but but they are, I, I think they're still making smart moves
• 1:07:38
  that helps them at least financially for the future.
• 1:07:41
  So I I'm trying to look at it in a more positive way.
• 1:07:46
  That honestly, no, that, that is a good point.
• 1:07:48
  I, I do think that financial responsibility to your team's
• 1:07:51
  future is important. I, I, I do agree with that.
• 1:07:55
  I, I'm, I'm also on the boat of, of, you know, I don't think we
• 1:07:59
  would want Trey Hendrickson now for the cost, the time, the risk
• 1:08:03
  where it's like, I mean, for what to, to, to get, you know, I
• 1:08:06
  mean, we, we would obviously be better on defense, but it's one
• 1:08:10
  of those things where it's like, look, we're not really at that
• 1:08:12
  point. If we were right on the cusp and
• 1:08:14
  it was like, dude, this guy will get us over that hump and take
• 1:08:17
  us there, then I'd say go for it.
• 1:08:19
  But right now, I mean, hey, maybe there's other guys you can
• 1:08:22
  get in the draft, get some younger guys, make the team look
• 1:08:25
  more appealing moving forward. So that is a yeah, I I would
• 1:08:30
  agree with that 100%. Yeah, I'm glad we got to talk
• 1:08:32
  about that because I spent a lot of time going through that.
• 1:08:35
  Yeah, I put a lot of thought into that.
• 1:08:37
  So yeah, I unless you have anything else you want to add, I
• 1:08:41
  don't have anything else. So I think we'll wrap it up.
• 1:08:43
  So next week there's a couple different things that we could
• 1:08:46
  be talking about because the NFL owners meeting is coming up in a
• 1:08:49
  couple weeks. And last year we talked about
• 1:08:51
  the proposed rule changes. I haven't seen any of those
• 1:08:55
  proposed rules come out yet. So if they do come out before
• 1:08:58
  next week's episode, we'll probably be talking about those.
• 1:09:01
  But if they don't, we'll probably just do some more
• 1:09:03
  scouting reports unless there's something else significant that
• 1:09:05
  happens. But it's the offseason and the
• 1:09:07
  drafts not here yet, so probably doing scouting reports.
• 1:09:10
  So we'll see what happens. But as always, guys, don't
• 1:09:13
  forget to keep your balls played with.
• 1:09:15
  We'll see you next time. Also, Mark Davis and Sarah Kest
• 1:09:17
  still sucks.