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Hour 3: Infectious disease outbreaks · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Well, a lot more is leaking out from the Cornell
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: University Jane Doe case. And the more that leaks out,
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  Speaker 1: the worse it looks for the fraternity and the boys.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of the testimony that they gave to the
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  Speaker 1: Cornell University police is now making it out. And this
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  Speaker 1: is the one that's getting played a lot. Because if
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  Speaker 1: you listen to this frat brother's answer, and he was
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  Speaker 1: not involved, but he saw what was going on. If
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  Speaker 1: you listen to his answer, count how many times he
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  Speaker 1: uses the word consensual.
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  Speaker 2: What people were.
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  Speaker 1: Saying was that there was, like, multiple consenting adults in
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  Speaker 1: this room.
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  Speaker 2: There was a consensual act that took place.
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  Speaker 3: And that's, it's, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's really what the general rumor I was going around
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  Speaker 2: was that there was a, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: There was a consensual, like, Yeah, that was 20 seconds,
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  Speaker 1: and he said consensual three times. And of course, the investigator.
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  Speaker 1: And what we're seeing on these tapes is that at first,
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  Speaker 1: the police at Cornell University were slammed. They actually did
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good job. It was the university that didn't
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  Speaker 1: turn over all of the information to the authorities.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, I was in college.
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  Speaker 4: In college, I wouldn't have been like, oh, that was
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  Speaker 4: a sick consensual act last night, right?
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  Speaker 5: Like, I guess where, how do they know it was consensual?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I can't recall exactly what was said, but yeah, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean, they said that they had sex with her.
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  Speaker 2: I guess.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy does not want, he wants to be
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  Speaker 1: anywhere else but in that room with Higvini interrogated right now.
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  Speaker 1: At one point he said, okay, now who did you
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  Speaker 1: recognize in there? And he said, I was really drunk.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember anybody. And he goes, seriously, you're a
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  Speaker 1: frat brother. You don't remember anyone else that was there?
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  Speaker 1: Who did you go with? I don't remember. So he said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you could be in a lot of trouble.
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  Speaker 1: Just from what you're saying right now, you could be
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  Speaker 1: in a lot of trouble. Let me play one other thing,
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  Speaker 1: because for the first time, we are actually hearing from
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  Speaker 1: Jane Doe, although she has not been identified.
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  Speaker 7: I was prostituted, and I was held up like.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, no, I'm sorry. This is... This is something different.
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  Speaker 1: There is a tape of the voice of Jane Doe.
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  Speaker 1: That's not what this is. This is what Jane Doe,
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  Speaker 1: this is Aaron Katursky, who you've heard on the air
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  Speaker 1: here many, many times. Since you can't, they're not allowing
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  Speaker 1: her voice to be heard unless it is manipulated a
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  Speaker 1: little bit so you can't tell who she is. And
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  Speaker 1: we have some of that. This is what she told
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  Speaker 1: the investigators at Cornell University. And it's much different than
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: what you've heard elsewhere.
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  Speaker 7: I was prostituted and I was held up like bait
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  Speaker 7: for a gaggle of men. She said, I remember a
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  Speaker 7: dark room with shadows of men in and out constantly,
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  Speaker 7: and I remember feeling like there was a joke and
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  Speaker 7: I was not in on it. She ended her testimony
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  Speaker 7: with a plea to her school. Please make it safer
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  Speaker 7: for those I love and the community at large. Remove
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  Speaker 7: those boys from campus.
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  Speaker 1: That is so much different than everything we were told
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  Speaker 1: that she said to investigators, that she wasn't sure, that
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  Speaker 1: she said it was okay in the beginning, but it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't later. Now, and he is reading from the document
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  Speaker 1: itself and watching the tapes himself, he is giving a
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  Speaker 1: much different story. Every time this story takes a turn,
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  Speaker 1: it gets worse for the frat and for Cornell University.
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  Speaker 3: I have a feeling it's going to take a major
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  Speaker 3: turn tomorrow and not because of what's happening at Cornell,
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  Speaker 3: but nearby in Syracuse, where the president of the United
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  Speaker 3: States will be joining Bruce Blakeman on a campaign stop.
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  Speaker 3: As you know, he's already commented. on Tish James being
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  Speaker 3: the special prosecutor assigned by Kathy Hochul. More importantly, there's
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  Speaker 3: now a filed legal petition on behalf of Jilio Lopez,
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  Speaker 3: one of seven, by his attorney to remove Tish James.
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  Speaker 1: To him, her.
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  Speaker 3: Replace her with a special prosecutor that would be appointed
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  Speaker 3: by the governor. who is free from actual or perceived
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  Speaker 3: conflicts of interest or bias. And this is all based
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  Speaker 3: on her initial, if you remember, the Facebook post she
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  Speaker 3: made prior to her being appointed by the governor, special prosecutor.
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  Speaker 3: I'm holding her in my heart and in my prayers
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  Speaker 3: to her and to all survivors. You're not alone. We
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  Speaker 3: stand with you. She's also running for reelection. She's in
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  Speaker 3: the middle of a campaign. I would suggest that for
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  Speaker 3: the good of all, she should recuse herself. We know
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  Speaker 3: she won't. But that the governor should take an opportunity
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  Speaker 3: here to have a come-to-Jesus meeting with her and say,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to appoint a special prosecutor. This should not
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  Speaker 3: become a case about whether you're prejudiced or not prejudiced,
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  Speaker 3: because then it takes away. And you know, tomorrow, I
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  Speaker 3: believe that Donald Trump, his hate, much of it merited
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  Speaker 3: for Tish James. will boil over to the fact that
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  Speaker 3: he's going to spend half of his time talking about
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  Speaker 3: the Attorney General. He definitely will mention it. There's no question.
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  Speaker 3: It's not going to be half. He will make mention
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  Speaker 3: of it somewhere. But we're getting now a taste, because all.
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  Speaker 1: The attorneys are starting to come out, including the attorneys
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  Speaker 1: for some of the Frat Brothers. We're getting a taste
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  Speaker 1: now and a feeling for what is going to happen
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  Speaker 1: at the trial when it comes up and what the
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  Speaker 1: defense is going to be. And it sounds like the
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  Speaker 1: defense is going to be everything was consensual. Everything was consensual.
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  Speaker 1: She knew exactly what she was doing. She was very
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  Speaker 1: aware of what she was doing. She voluntarily took drugs
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  Speaker 1: and she voluntarily took alcohol because that plays in the
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  Speaker 1: New York state law. And so a couple of the
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  Speaker 1: attorneys have come forward, including Andrew Miltenberg, who is a
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  Speaker 1: prominent defense attorney. You can tell whoever this bro is,
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  Speaker 1: his parents have money.
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  Speaker 8: To him, her affect was such that she was coherent
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  Speaker 8: and capable of making a decision. And she was an
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  Speaker 8: active and engaged participant in their sexual encounter.
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  Speaker 1: There was so much legal speak in that sentence. that
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  Speaker 1: to him it was consensual. And that may be all
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  Speaker 1: that matters in the defense.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think they're now trying the case in the
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  Speaker 3: court of public opinion because, uh, they want to try
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  Speaker 3: to get ahead of all the leaks of what actually
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  Speaker 3: was said to the initial investigators first from Cornell university
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  Speaker 3: and maybe, uh, to the police department itself of Ithaca. Uh, but, um,
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  Speaker 3: I got to tell you, I just know that amongst
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  Speaker 3: the seven, there are conversations with the family. They're probably
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  Speaker 3: footing the bill for big legal expenses. Look, I'll go
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  Speaker 3: to the attorney general. I'll speak to whatever ADA is
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  Speaker 3: assigned to this from the state. And I'll say, you're
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  Speaker 3: going to be a cooperating witness because whoever is the
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  Speaker 3: first to become the cooperating witness is We'll go scot-free.
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  Speaker 3: You know, that's part of the deal. And then you
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  Speaker 3: have to identify everybody who is in there. And if
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  Speaker 3: you lie, you perjure yourself, you could go to jail.
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  Speaker 3: I'll bet you they're having those conversations as we speak.
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  Speaker 1: And that may happen. My feeling is it's not going
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  Speaker 1: to happen. And the reason I do is because, and look,
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: I know this is an unpopular thing to say, but
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  Speaker 1: it's the absolute truth. And if there's an attorney out there,
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  Speaker 1: a defense attorney, I'd love for you to call in
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  Speaker 1: as well. and just say to me, yep, yep, that's
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  Speaker 1: what's going to happen. There is a strong defense, and
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  Speaker 1: you're hearing it now playing out. And the strong defense
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  Speaker 1: is that in the mind of those men, it was consensual.
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  Speaker 1: Everything she did made it seem like it was consensual.
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  Speaker 1: And then they're going to say, and this is going
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  Speaker 1: to be the strongest part because of the ridiculous law
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  Speaker 1: they have about voluntary intoxication in New York State, then
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  Speaker 1: they're going to say, And she was heavily intoxicated. She
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  Speaker 1: was drinking so much when she was there. We offered
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  Speaker 1: the ketamine. We told her what it was, and she
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  Speaker 1: took it voluntarily. So not only was she drunk, and
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  Speaker 1: she shouldn't even be able to remember many of the
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  Speaker 1: things that happened, but early in the night, she made
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  Speaker 1: it plain that, yes, she was willing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think what has already been acknowledged by all
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  Speaker 3: parties is She was 10 shots up. That means even
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  Speaker 3: before she came to the frat house, she had had
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  Speaker 3: 10 shots of some kind of liquor, probably hard liquor.
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  Speaker 3: And then it was the ketamine was made available to
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  Speaker 3: her at the frat party by the frat brothers, the
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  Speaker 3: two who were with her initially, and then the invitation
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  Speaker 3: for others to come. In fact, the main guy, the goofball,
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  Speaker 3: I call him, the ringleader, was saying he was snorting
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  Speaker 3: ketamine off of her stomach. You know, so again, the
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  Speaker 3: big ramifications here are nationally. Other universities are beginning to
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  Speaker 3: do a lot of soul searching about how they're handling
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  Speaker 3: these kinds of cases. Because if I remember correctly, I
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  Speaker 3: was saying about one out of every 10 undergraduates end
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  Speaker 3: up being either sexually harassed or sexually assaulted. in their
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  Speaker 3: four years of college.
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  Speaker 5: That's a hell of a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. It's not even just in college. It's in
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  Speaker 1: high school. It's at camp. It's in the workplace. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's way too much of this. And that's why Jane
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  Speaker 1: Doe was Me Too before. And it comes up and
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  Speaker 1: it rises every 10 years. And I I hope in
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  Speaker 1: 10 years we don't have to hear about this again.
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  Speaker 1: But I think one of the good things that is
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  Speaker 1: going to happen from this case, because you're going to
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  Speaker 1: hear about this a lot as the case unfolds, is
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  Speaker 1: the voluntary intoxication law finally is going to go away.
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: And I would love to know who was fighting for that,
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  Speaker 1: because they've been trying to change that for a decade.
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  Speaker 1: Who was saying, no, no, no, we can't. We can't
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  Speaker 1: get rid of that law if a person is intoxicated again.
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  Speaker 1: beyond being able to say yes or no, it's their fault.
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  Speaker 1: It's not the person that's having sex with them fault.
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  Speaker 1: It's their fault. That's such a ridiculous law. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't think anybody else in the country has it.
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  Speaker 3: Larry, if you understand the culture of Albany and all
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  Speaker 3: the sexual assaults and sexual harassment of legislators against females
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  Speaker 3: and female interns, you know where that opposition is coming from.
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  Speaker 3: There's a term. Anything north, you know, these are legislators
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  Speaker 3: who have to go up three days a week when
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: they're in session. Whatever happens north of Bear Mountain stays
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  Speaker 3: north of Bear Mountain.
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  Speaker 1: They should be ashamed. No more. They should be absolutely
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  Speaker 1: ashamed of themselves. That's the most ridiculous law in the country.
• 11:30
  Speaker 7: And dangerous.
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: Anyway, you might have noticed a disclaimer on your Reese's
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: peanut butter pumpkin.
• 11:35
  Speaker 5: We'll tell you why.
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: Plus a chance to see A Bronx Tale, the one-man
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: show starring Chaz Palminteri, live on stage next.
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: Now, Curtis, I just handed you a picture and it
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: is Hershey's and they're putting out a brand new peanut
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: butter pumpkin product. And that's what the picture looks like.
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: They're now being sued over that or they were sued
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: over that because the candy inside didn't match the packaging.
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: So the person that bought it expected whatever was inside
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: to look exactly like that, and they were sued for
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: false advertising.
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: This is Reese's Peanut Butter Cup, which is now owned
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: by Hershey's.
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: And a frivolous lawsuit. What lawyer, what slip and fall
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: lawyer filed this lawsuit? Well, it was thrown out. The
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: lawsuit was thrown out.
• 12:32
  Speaker 5: Thank God.
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: Guess what? They changed their packaging because of that.
• 12:37
  Speaker 5: They, all the thousands of packages.
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: Yep, they had to change their packaging because of that.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: Because they thought, some guy, that was obviously some guy
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: that said, I'm going to make some money. You know,
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: they'll settle. They'll settle with me and they'll give me
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: a few thousand. They didn't. It was thrown out. But
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  Speaker 1: the fact that they now have to spend all this
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: money to repackage.
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 13:02
  Speaker 6: So, you know, on the package now, they still have
• 13:04
  Speaker 6: the pumpkin that looks like a jack-o'-lantern. But now there's
• 13:07
  Speaker 6: a disclaimer that basically says, carving not on actual product.
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, fine.
• 13:12
  Speaker 5: It's not a carving.
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: There's no carving in the first place.
• 13:15
  Speaker 5: And I get it.
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  Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I love the Reese's pumpkin. I mean,
• 13:21
  Speaker 6: it tastes just like a Reese's peanut butter cup, but
• 13:23
  Speaker 6: it's just the texture and it's really big. But- If
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  Speaker 6: you don't have that carving on the package, it just.
• 13:30
  Speaker 5: Looks like a blob. You know, it just looks like
• 13:32
  Speaker 5: an oval.
• 13:34
  Speaker 6: So you can't, I guess you had to put it on.
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: What product in the world has to match its packaging?
• 13:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
• 13:41
  Speaker 6: And they do a Christmas tree. It doesn't really look
• 13:44
  Speaker 6: like a Christmas tree so much, but nobody cares.
• 13:47
  Speaker 7: You just want to eat it.
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: So I assume you, Natalie, will be going to that
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: new movie made about Hershey's and how they established and
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: they had an orphanage and a feel-good movie, you know,
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: this holiday season while you're eating your Reese's peanut butter cups.
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  Speaker 5: That doesn't sound like a bad idea.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: You're a big candy eater?
• 14:07
  Speaker 6: I am not a huge candy eater, but I really
• 14:11
  Speaker 6: do love a Reese's.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: Reese's is wonderful. That's a good pick. That's a good choice.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: Let's get to some talkbacks. Good morning, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Stephen A.
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  Speaker 9: Smith is a fool.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: He says things to get likes.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: He has no substance.
• 14:26
  Speaker 9: He has no relevance. People that listen to him are
• 14:30
  Speaker 9: as dumb as he is.
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, look, he's making 30 mil as the angry
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: black man. And so he's got to deliver on ESPN
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: every day. He's got other lanes that he speaks on
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: politics now.
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: But what he said, basically.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: About somebody suffering from mental illness who has publicly acknowledged it,
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: toured the country, spoken about the horrors and what to
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: do about it, and then made light of it and
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: laughed at him for leaving the sport that he loved.
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: What did he play? 17 years, right?
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 17 years, and he was all pro almost every year. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: Stephen A., I like the guy. I really do. I
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: got to know him, and he's done right by me.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: But man, you got to set some barriers. I know
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: this is how you made your money, but every once
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: in a while, it's going to come back to bite you,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: and it just did.
• 15:25
  Speaker 10: Wow, this Stephen A. Smith thing is a real head-scratcher.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: What he said obviously was stupid and not well thought out,
• 15:36
  Speaker 10: but let's not do the same thing where we are
• 15:40
  Speaker 10: haters and throw him under the bus and say he's
• 15:43
  Speaker 10: awful and overreact. That statement should not define his whole career,
• 15:50
  Speaker 10: although it really was pretty bad. So let's step back.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: I won't, and my feeling is today you're going to
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: hear another apology from Stephen A. Smith because he really
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: blundered the apology that he gave last night.
• 16:06
  Speaker 9: This Cornell University situation is just one in a string
• 16:10
  Speaker 9: of things that are happening in society over and over again,
• 16:13
  Speaker 9: which just goes to show, and this is probably an
• 16:16
  Speaker 9: unpopular opinion, we need to get back to morality and
• 16:20
  Speaker 9: faith and other things that provide underpinnings to our youth.
• 16:25
  Speaker 9: in terms of what's right and wrong.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, that was wonderful. Let's end on that.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, because now's your chance to win a pair of
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: tickets to see a Bronx Tale.
• 16:36
  Speaker 8: Tell your father where you got the money.
• 16:38
  Speaker 9: I worked at Crap Games and the guys gave me tips.
• 16:41
  Speaker 8: Crap Games?
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: What Crap Games? I told you, I worked for Sonny
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: and he gave me tips.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: I knew it.
• 16:47
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• 16:51
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• 16:58
  Speaker 3: you're the winner. Tickets on sale now at Ticketmaster.com. But
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: with that, it's 8.30. Let's get the news from Daria.
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  Speaker 5: Morning, guys.
• 17:09
  Speaker 11: Sunny, warmer, and breezy today. We'll see a high of
• 17:11
  Speaker 11: 75 degrees. A New Jersey transit bus slams into a
• 17:15
  Speaker 11: house in Englewood.
• 17:17
  Speaker 12: The bus driver just started the route when the bus
• 17:19
  Speaker 12: smashed into the front of a house on Rockwood Place
• 17:21
  Speaker 12: in Englewood at 5.45 in the morning. The driver taken
• 17:24
  Speaker 12: to the hospital with injuries. The bus did not have
• 17:26
  Speaker 12: any passengers. It's unclear if anyone inside the house was hurt.
• 17:30
  Speaker 12: NJ Transit officials are investigating the cause of the crash.
• 17:33
  Speaker 12: I'm Scott Pringle, WOR News.
• 17:35
  Speaker 11: A Bronx man has been charged with murder, attempted murder
• 17:37
  Speaker 11: and other offenses after police say he threw his ex-girlfriend
• 17:40
  Speaker 11: and their eight-month-old daughter off her apartment balcony. The woman
• 17:44
  Speaker 11: Natalie Ramirez was killed. The baby is in critical condition.
• 17:47
  Speaker 11: Forecasters are watching Hurricane Isaias, which could be the first
• 17:51
  Speaker 11: Atlantic hurricane of the season.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: Officials warn the storm could strengthen quickly as it moves
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: over warm Gulf waters. Florida has declared a state of
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: emergency in 25 counties, while Alabama has issued a state
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: of emergency covering 40 counties. The storm is also impacting
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: White House plans. President Trump says he may reconsider a
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  Speaker 11: ABC's Melissa Adan and what will eventually be left of
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• 18:23
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• 18:30
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• 18:36
  Speaker 11: And the season is over for the Yankees after they
• 18:38
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• 18:45
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• 18:48
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Daria. Well, we got Legionnaire's disease,
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  Speaker 1: new cases in New York City. We got pneumonic plague
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  Speaker 1: in Russia. We also have measles outbreaks across the country.
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  Speaker 1: This is a great time. to talk to one of
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  Speaker 1: the best in the country, if not the best infectious
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: disease expert, Dr. Gregory Poland about all of that. And ticks,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I left that out. That's another thing to talk to
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: him about. Man, we got a lot to talk to Dr.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Poland about. And John Charney from Manhattan, congratulations. You just
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: won a pair of tickets to see A Bronx Tale,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the one-man show starring Chaz Palminteri live on stage today. Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: win tomorrow at 825. Dr. Poland up next. Time to
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: bring in a dear friend, Dr. Gregory Poland, health and
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: medical expert who is a leader in vaccines and infectious diseases.
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  Speaker 1: He's also director of research at the Atria Research and
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  Speaker 1: Global Health Institute in New York and co-author of a
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: new book, The Illusion of Over. COVID-19 Speed, Trust, Power, Failure,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: and the System that Saved and Broke America's Public Health.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Congratulations on the new book. That's quite a title.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you. Yeah, it's a long one, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. Listen, there's so much to talk
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: to you about, and I want to start with ticks
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: because there has been, well, the most in 15 years
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: of visits to the emergency rooms in the area, in
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: New York City area, and in the Northeast because of
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: tick bites. We had a whole school district that now
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: has eliminated outdoor activity until further notice because of problems
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: with ticks in the area. What is the big concern
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: with ticks? What could it cause?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, these tick-borne illnesses are much more common than people think.
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  Speaker 2: And they cause a variety of diseases. In the Northeast Corridor,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: probably the most common is Lyme disease, something that a
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: lot of people have heard about. But there are other
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: diseases that occur too, like you've heard of alpha-gal syndrome, babesiosis,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: a variety of diseases that can lead to real harm.
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  Speaker 2: So prevention of tick bites is really important.
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  Speaker 1: So preventing it in the first place, that means putting
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: on some lotion or wearing long clothes, not wearing shorts
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: when you're walking through the woods, that kind of stuff?
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  Speaker 2: Right, yeah. Staying out of brush and bushes, that kind
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: of area, which is unfortunate because that's where kids want
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: to be, right? Running around outdoors. And those are really
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: important things to do. And the other is when you
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: get a tick bite, The tick needs to be identified
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  Speaker 2: and potentially treatment started to prevent late complications.
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  Speaker 5: Now, Dr. Poland, it's Russia, Russia, Russia.
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  Speaker 3: Everywhere you go, you scroll on your smartphone or iPhone
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: or whatever device you use. Mnemonic plague, black plague, all
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: coming from apparently a hospital slash laboratory. that was dealing
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: with this pneumonic plague. We've heard every conceivable explanation except
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: not really from the Russians.
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  Speaker 5: What do you make of it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let me add the proviso as you did
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: at the end because it's really important. We need Russia
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: to be forthcoming. We need transparency. WHO teams need to
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: be able to get in there and see what really happened.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: What we know is is that a 28-year-old female laboratory
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: worker died of a severe pneumonia. Nothing has been reported yet,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: though she did work in a laboratory that deals with plague.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Now there's speculation about a second case. Who knows? This
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: would be a little unusual because pneumonic plague is a
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: disease that's very severe. Anybody that she would have had
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: contact with would have gotten sick already and probably died already.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: So I'm skeptical about pneumonic plague, but we have very
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: few details.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm so upset about this story because it's so
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: easily preventable. Measles, there's been outbreaks across the country, Pennsylvania
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: and New Jersey. We are almost at 4,000 cases. That's
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the most cases since 1991. And I'm sure you're on
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the same page. We've talked about this before. 95% of
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: the people that get it are unvaccinated.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Larry, it's just incomprehensible in this day and age
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: of the 21st century. And all due to misfounded fears
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: and myths and disinformation and government confusion and New York
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: itself has got 108 cases, seven of them now in
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: New York City. There have been five deaths in Pennsylvania.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: This is not just a benign childhood illness as many
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: people want to make it out to be. This is
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: a serious or is an illness that can have serious ramifications.
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  Speaker 2: And it is so easily preventable.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know. And the gentleman that now is living
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: in the, I shouldn't call him a gentleman, the scum
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: that is now living in this country that started all
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: of this, all of the disinformation for his own gain
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: is now living in Texas and he should be in jail.
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  Speaker 2: Where some of the biggest outbreaks have been, by the way,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: he was stripped of his medical license in England and
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: has been a source of a lot of myths and disinformation,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: which is really unfortunate.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Pullum, we're getting clobbered here with Legionnaire's disease, which broke
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: out first in the Upper East Side, wealthy area, then
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Yankee Stadium, South Bronx, poor area. Now Queens, a senior
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: citizen housing complex, two cases hospitalized. Staten Island yesterday, two
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: cases hospitalized. And I don't hear anything from the city
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: any longer. Can this be transported airborne? How could it
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: be spreading all over the city?
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's happening is with hot weather, with cooling towers
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: and air conditioning towers that are not adequately maintained, cleaned,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: et cetera, you are always at risk for a disease
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: like this. So they really have to get on top
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: of this. They have to have strict regulations and they
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: have to enforce them. Regular testing and enforcement.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry about that. In a follow-up to Curtis's question, it
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: is springing up in one area, then springing up in another,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: and springing up in another. Can it go from one
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: area to another, or are these all individual cases?
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: They're individual cases, Larry and Curtis. Basically, what happens is
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: the bacteria grows in the water that sits stagnant. in
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: these cooling and air conditioning towers, you then run that
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: water and it is airborne and aerosolized from that water
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: that you take a shower in or use. So that's
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: the source and that's the way to attack this.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Dr. Gregory Polin, health and medical expert, a leader in
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: vaccines and infectious diseases at the Mayo Clinic and the
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: president of the Atria Research Institute in New York. and
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: co-author of a new book, The Illusion of Over COVID-19 Speed, Trust, Power, Failure,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: and the System that Saved and Broke America's Public Health.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Quite a title. Thank you so much, Dr. Gregory Poland.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Great to hear your voice again. Thanks. And you.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: So yesterday, Larry, Natalie, our audience, was the third anniversary
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: of the attack of October 7th by Hamas. the slaughter,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: the killings, the rapings, and then eventually the hostage taking
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: and the ordeal that people had to deal with as
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: their loved ones were kept in tunnels for months and
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: months and months. So the mayor started off today on
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: his social posting and he bifurcated his post. So he
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: starts out fine. He says, you know, I have sympathy
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: for the victims of Hamas and then did a quick
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: pirouette started accusing Israel of genocide and apartheid, you know,
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: what he generally does, and so any of the Jewish
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: gatherings during the day, major Jewish figures were condemning that.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: Then he himself ends up going to.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: A rally for peace that is held at night at
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Union Square by a group that is definitely progressive, liberal,
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: that has supported him in the past called Pro-Peace Israel,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: and It's a Jewish group. They're in Union Square. And
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: they should have known there would be trouble because when
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: he left City Hall, the pro-Palestinian demonstrators then followed on foot.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: And as they began their commemoration, Oh, the pro-Palestinian demonstrators
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: just unloaded on Zoran Mandami and those that were there
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: to commemorate the deaths.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: They called him a traitor. Not one more.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Was the response from the Jews who wanted peace. And
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: they say, you sold out your people. And it just
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: went from bad to worse until eventually, 45 minutes later,
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: the mayor left. The arguments continued. And then the police arrived.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: cleaned up the area. So another day in the constant
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: arguments that go back and forth between Muslims and Jews
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: or their supporters in terms of who's right, who's wrong.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: I will tell you this much, Larry.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: If you look at the pro-Palestinian demonstrators, the mayor should
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: now have the impetus to do along with this police commission.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: what Bruce Blakeman has done in Nassau County. You cannot
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: wear a mask unless you have a religious exemption or
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: medical exemption. And it's worked in Nassau County. It has
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: absolutely worked. They don't have these demonstrations. I've looked at
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: the faces of these people as much as I can
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: see it. These are like Antifa people. It's like demonstration
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: du jour. They throw a keffiyeh on and they're covered.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: There's no photo recognition technology. And then they go on
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: a rampage. And it was just the mayor should have
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: just put out that initial statement. He shouldn't have gone
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: to any gatherings.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: No, he shouldn't have gone. He shouldn't have gone. And
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: he should stop trying to ride the fence. We all
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: know where you stand. We know that from your past
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: writings and your past comments. We know where you stand.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: And so he's getting exactly what he deserves. If he's
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: going to play both sides, he's going to be attacked
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: by both sides, because before he did it, he picked
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: one side. So now, not only is he going to
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: be attacked by Jews, he's going to be attacked by
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Muslims as well, because they called him a traitor. They
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: said that now he supports genocide. So he can't win
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: by being a fraud. But he's not alone. All of
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: the little Mamdanis running across the country, they're all trying
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: to hide what they really believe. They're all the Manchurian candidate.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Once they get in, it can be hell.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: I think I'm like most Americans. I've had enough of
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: this back and forth.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Let's start getting back to what's best for America, what's
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: best for our city instead of this. It's going to
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: go on forever and ever and ever.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: But you understand, there's people that deeply believe this because
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: they are from those areas or they have a tie
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: to those areas.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: I totally understand.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: But it's not a priority for the rest of us,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: and it's dominating. It's dominating its hate back and forth,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: and it's not resolving any problems.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: It's only dominating when others talk about it, but they're
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: allowed to. They're allowed to feel the way. By the way,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: hate crimes are up 57% since he's been in office.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Anyway, we've been talking a lot about the Cornell 7,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: the talk back of the morning, and winner of the
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  Speaker 9: This Cornell University situation is just one in a string
• 31:58
  Speaker 9: of things that are happening in society over and over again,
• 32:02
  Speaker 9: which just goes to show, and this is probably an
• 32:05
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• 32:08
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