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90 Day Fiancé Season 12 Episode 19 Tell All Part 1 (My part 1) with KC Karhart Speers · Vanity Farah with Chris Farah

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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone. Welcome back to Vanity Fair. My name is
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Speaker 1: Chris Farah, and I am super pumped. I mean, beyond
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Speaker 1: the moon and the stars, elated to bring to you
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Speaker 1: another episode, of course, of TV Watching Pop Culture Recaps.
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Speaker 1: It's 90 Day Fiancé this time. It's season 12. It's
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Speaker 1: the tell-all part one. However, I have a very special guest.
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Speaker 1: Please put your hands together for my longtime friend, and
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Speaker 1: a brilliant colorist in Los Angeles. We'll talk about it.
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Speaker 1: Casey Carhart-Spears. Hello. Hello.
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Speaker 2: I'm so excited.
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Speaker 3: I know.
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Speaker 1: Me too. We've talked about this a long time.
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Speaker 2: Big fan. Big fan, as you know. Long time fan.
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Speaker 1: Big fan of you.
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Speaker 2: Long time, long time. Long time friend.
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Speaker 1: Long time friend. Yeah. I want to know, let me
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Speaker 1: give people our backstory, and then I want to know
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Speaker 1: your backstory with 90 Day the Franchise in itself. You
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Speaker 1: and I met One billion years ago, I'm working at
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Speaker 1: the vegan restaurant that I've referenced, if you've listened to
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Speaker 1: the podcast before, that is now defunct. It was called
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Speaker 1: Real Food Daily.
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Speaker 2: The premier.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the premier organic vegan restaurant. Looking at you, Cafe Gratitude.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I was a baby, and then you literally.
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Speaker 1: Were a baby. We were true babies, and....
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Speaker 2: I miss working there sometimes, I gotta say. And I
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Speaker 2: see the owner at my grocery store sometimes. I just
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Speaker 2: saw her last week.
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Speaker 1: You were at that co-op?
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I always, like, go down
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Speaker 2: the other aisle. I'm like, ah.
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Speaker 1: She wouldn't remember me anyway. I wonder, yeah. She only
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Speaker 1: would remember me because she probably got people being like,
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Speaker 1: did you see that person that got, like, Ellen got
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Speaker 1: mad at? And she'd be like, that Chris. But she,
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Speaker 1: the owner, I won't say her name, but I will
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Speaker 1: say that one part later of her own lore is
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Speaker 1: that she started selling for Rodan and Fields. And then,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, but Rodan and Fields,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm saying it right, went, like,
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Speaker 1: stopped using their MLM structure. So, like, everyone who was
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Speaker 1: on top making money just lost their entire businesses, including
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Speaker 1: that lady and including Britney Spears' mom.
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Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
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Speaker 1: Same person.
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Speaker 2: So sad.
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Speaker 1: So sad. Think about it.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: So, but while you're, yeah, I know. While you're literally, like,
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Speaker 1: being the most beautiful, charming waitress, you're also, like, fucking
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Speaker 1: hustling and you are being an apprentice waitress in the
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Speaker 1: incredible world of like hardcore salons, like in major cities,
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Speaker 1: which is that you have to, of course, you know,
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Speaker 1: you have to like help someone work for someone under someone.
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Speaker 1: And there's like a lineage. I don't know a lot
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Speaker 1: about it, but like, I've just watched you now go
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Speaker 1: through it and obviously have people assistance yourself. It's really interesting,
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Speaker 1: but like you double did it. And then I just
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Speaker 1: watched you just become one of the, like the hottest people,
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Speaker 1: colorists in Los Angeles that I just always went to
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Speaker 1: and you like have such a beautiful eye for color
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Speaker 1: and you really also are known to for me for
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Speaker 1: like the most beautiful blended colors and blondes like you
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Speaker 1: know for a long time I feel like if anyone
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Speaker 1: was like I want to be blonde in LA like
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Speaker 1: there was no one that I would like you have
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Speaker 1: to go to Casey to have like a chic hot
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Speaker 1: LA color look that's different from Orange County that's different
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Speaker 1: from New York it's just a very specific thing which
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Speaker 1: obviously yeah.
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Speaker 2: Hi hi you're right it is very specific and I
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Speaker 2: have to say you were one of the first very
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Speaker 2: first people when I was still assisting I don't know
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Speaker 2: if you remember but I like went to your house
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Speaker 2: in West Hollywood and did your color when I was
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Speaker 2: like fully still practicing and like went to Sally's to
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Speaker 2: get all my things and was like okay like yeah
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Speaker 2: so you've been yeah we've been together for so long
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Speaker 2: And it's great. And your hair looks amazing right now.
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Speaker 2: And I love, I'm loving it. Loving the dark hair.
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Speaker 2: It's beautiful.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Thank you. Your hair looks gorgeous too. If you're
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Speaker 1: watching this, listen, you obviously have two options. If you
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Speaker 1: are listening to this, you can be listening to the
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Speaker 1: or the RSS Vanity Fair app. Anyway, what is your
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Speaker 1: 90 day pedigree? Okay. So, so funny.
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Speaker 2: I didn't know you were going to ask this, but
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Speaker 2: I was, I was pondering this going into today. One,
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Speaker 2: another Real Food Daily alum, Brenda said, she is who
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Speaker 2: got me started on night to be a fiance and
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Speaker 2: it was only during COVID. So I started watching during COVID,
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Speaker 2: but I think I went back at a certain point
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Speaker 2: and watched like some previous seasons. I remember the first
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Speaker 2: season I ever watched and the, and what really got
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Speaker 2: me was Darcy and Jesse. And it was, I was
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Speaker 2: obsessed with Darcy and, Still am. Love her. Love the
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Speaker 2: cutting the steak on the bias. That was like for me,
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Speaker 2: like a fight for the ages. So that was when
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Speaker 2: I started. And yeah, and since then, I now watch, unfortunately,
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Speaker 2: all the spinoffs, except for I don't really watch Between
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Speaker 2: the Sheets or the ones where they like pillow talk.
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Speaker 2: Like I'm not really interested in those, but I watch
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Speaker 2: all the rest. And I love this season. This season
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Speaker 2: has been the most exciting season for me in a
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Speaker 2: long time.
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Speaker 1: Same i absolutely agree there was like a lot of
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Speaker 1: exciting people and nothing was like like toxic in a
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Speaker 1: way that i was like i can't watch this i
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Speaker 1: mito got close or whatever but then like it almost
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Speaker 1: felt like they got the memo and then suddenly it
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Speaker 1: became sort of.
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Speaker 2: A little funnier or something yeah i agree yeah.
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Speaker 1: Like less threatening and i was like oh okay honey
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Speaker 1: he took direction.
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Speaker 2: Yeah totally and I will say Katie makes me a
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Speaker 2: little sad, but I don't think it's Josh's fault. I
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Speaker 2: don't think that's, I don't think that's the fault of
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Speaker 2: her couple. I think that's just as like, unfortunately I'm like,
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Speaker 2: I do think Katie's got some, some issues on the,
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Speaker 2: on the table, you know?
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And she, whether she is cognizant of all
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Speaker 1: of them and what they've, what, you know, what they are,
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Speaker 1: you know, willing to diagnose or, you know, and we'll talk, well, anyway,
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Speaker 1: it's interesting. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: So yes. This season has been great. Also, just side note,
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Speaker 1: in the universe, they went ahead and released the new
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Speaker 1: Hunt for Love season and, like, Kara's there.
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Speaker 2: I saw a picture of that on Reddit today and
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Speaker 2: I'm like, ooh, Chloe, excited. Kara, fine. But I'm also like, okay, Kara,
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Speaker 2: she's milking it and good for her. I'm like, you're
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Speaker 2: on everything. I love you.
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Speaker 1: Have you seen Chloe's hair now? She definitely went, like,
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Speaker 1: a different route than, like, that white-ass bleachers.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I only saw the like promo shot for Hunt
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Speaker 2: for Love, which is very like feels very edited. So
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Speaker 2: I'm very excited to see. I feel like when people
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Speaker 2: are on TV, usually like season two, they're like, oh, shit. OK,
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Speaker 2: I'm redirecting and I'm excited for whatever her redirection is
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Speaker 2: going to be because I love Chloe. Big fan. Big
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Speaker 2: Chloe fan. same.
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Speaker 1: I really, yeah. Chloe is like, I'd be probably one
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Speaker 1: of the only ones that'd be like, I'd hang out
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Speaker 1: with her and I'm much older than her, you know?
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Speaker 2: Totally. But for some reason, I, I'm, I don't know
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Speaker 2: if this is just me, but I'm always like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: like we're the same age.
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Speaker 1: Like, sure.
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Speaker 2: Like we, we can hang out. And it's like, that's
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Speaker 2: not true, but she seems cool. She seems smart. She
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Speaker 2: seems cool.
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Speaker 1: I can have a drink.
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Speaker 2: Um, why not?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Take her under our wing for a little, a little drink.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't going to go under her wing. She's like mature.
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Speaker 1: She is. I, yeah, I'm excited about that. And then
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Speaker 1: they also, they have the new season of the toe
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Speaker 1: of toe coming out. And at least, yeah. And you
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Speaker 1: are right because in the age of AI, not a
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Speaker 1: fiance is definitely using AI for some of its imaging.
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Speaker 1: And so who knows what any of them looks like.
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Speaker 2: In real life? I toe is my favorite one, I think.
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Speaker 2: So I'm very excited for that.
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Speaker 1: Ooh, yeah. I'm salivating. Okay. Let's get in. Honey, it's
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Speaker 1: part one. All the people are getting to New York. And,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting. People are there. They're still together. Like,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's not, you know, we can see who's
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Speaker 1: obviously still there. And there's been talk online, like a
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Speaker 1: lot of people like on Reddit and stuff like that
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Speaker 1: were like, Rosh isn't in America anymore. And I was like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: he is. Yeah. Not even a question, but... Mallory has
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Speaker 1: never been to New York and you know obviously he
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Speaker 1: hasn't either and like you know thank god they find
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Speaker 1: a kebab cart.
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Speaker 2: Yeah also I love sorry to already be like I
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Speaker 2: love how like rushy immediately is like what are the
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Speaker 2: sky and she's like sky skyscrapers we call them sky
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Speaker 2: like she's just so sweet and I feel like she's
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Speaker 2: a good partner to have if you're coming to a
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Speaker 2: different country Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Because we're going to be like, Oh, you don't even know. God,
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Speaker 1: I'm more experienced than you because.
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Speaker 2: I've seen these buildings.
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Speaker 1: You poor person never seen this building. I'm so much
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Speaker 1: smarter than you. Yeah. I know.
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Speaker 2: And Mallory's like, yeah, we call them like, it's very sweet.
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Speaker 2: She's so sweet.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, sorry. Go on.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's so true. You're absolutely right. You can
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Speaker 1: really see the difference, you know, like someone who's caring
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Speaker 1: and doesn't view someone like, Oh, less than stupid it's
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Speaker 1: just like yeah she's.
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Speaker 2: Just a little different language yeah she's like patient with
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Speaker 2: his english as a second language vibe yeah yeah anywho.
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Speaker 1: Um have you eaten kebab in a new york.
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Speaker 2: From no not kebab no you neither No nuts.
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Speaker 1: I have, I will do a nut anytime. Like if
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Speaker 1: it's street nuts, like in New York, I'll get a
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Speaker 1: street nut. But yeah, the kebab thing, I haven't.
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Speaker 2: I haven't done it. I, yeah, I'm not a huge, like,
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Speaker 2: I'm not a huge kebab person, I don't think.
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Speaker 1: But you'll eat street food, right? Like, I will.
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Speaker 2: I love like a street taco.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Uh, that feels great. I love like fruit, but I'm like,
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Speaker 2: I feel like even, I don't know, even like some,
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Speaker 2: like specific, the specific type of meat for me and
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Speaker 2: a street taco has to be like, I like, there's
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Speaker 2: certain things that I'm just like, I will. And I won't,
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Speaker 2: you know?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Because in LA you can get, I mean, and God
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Speaker 1: bless a lot of options. And there are options that like,
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Speaker 1: just like not, I'm just too gringa for, you know,
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Speaker 1: like there's.
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Speaker 2: Cause there's totally and stuff like, and I don't necessarily,
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Speaker 2: if I get like one, like I'm not, I, I
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Speaker 2: do eat meat, but if I get like one chewy
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Speaker 2: piece of something that I'm like, I'm kind of done,
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Speaker 2: you know, I just like it, it, it just isn't
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Speaker 2: for me, unfortunately.
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Speaker 1: It's because we ate so many talk of the towns.
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Speaker 1: I know.
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Speaker 2: Same texture all the way through.
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Speaker 1: Yeah one time they're like we'll make a new taco
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Speaker 1: this one's called mexico city top they were just like
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Speaker 1: oh great it was like this is so this is
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Speaker 1: yeah god they just kept in the exact same seasoning
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Speaker 1: on different smushy fake meats you.
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Speaker 2: Know oh yeah they're like they're like nachos tacos burritos
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Speaker 2: whatever you want whatever shape you want we have it
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Speaker 2: and we'll call it something fun and a new pun
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Speaker 2: a new little fun pun name.
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Speaker 1: Yeah And they made a killer guac and pico.
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Speaker 2: So like, you know, totally. And honestly, all of it, like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: all of it. I can go on forever about how
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Speaker 2: much I love that.
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Speaker 1: Fucking vegan food. Um, I wish they had a medical. Okay.
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Speaker 1: Let's stop talking about it. Okay. So we move on.
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Speaker 1: Obviously they're having the time of their life, but moving
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Speaker 1: on to someone who, I mean, is made for New York,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's Mito and Debbie. Mito must be like, oh,
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Speaker 1: if I'm not going to be in LA, like maybe
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Speaker 1: I should be, you know, like in Hamlet. What would
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Speaker 1: you do? What would be like your, if you could
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Speaker 1: see Mito in anything, I don't know. Like, and I'll
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Speaker 1: tell you mine first while you think about it. And
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Speaker 1: if you can't think about it, you know, you don't
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Speaker 1: think of something. It's like, you could see him do
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Speaker 1: for the theater heads night mother, which is a very
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Speaker 1: dumb thing where literally just a woman shoots herself in
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Speaker 1: the end. Or it's kind of, it's kind of dark.
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Speaker 1: Or you could still do like Hamilton, if he could rap. Oh.
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Speaker 1: One of those are the best. You know, like. Would love.
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Speaker 2: Would love. If I could see Mito in anything, I
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Speaker 2: feel like I would want to see him in like
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Speaker 2: a rom-com. Like I would want to see him like
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Speaker 2: in a movie, in a rom-com playing like the friend.
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Speaker 2: You know, the friend.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Not the lead, but like the friend who kind of
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Speaker 2: steals the show.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. That's what I want.
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Speaker 2: That's what I want for him.
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Speaker 1: I do feel like on set, though, he would try
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Speaker 1: and like sabotage the lead and like and or try
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Speaker 1: and just get himself to be like, it's a one
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Speaker 1: man movie now.
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Speaker 2: If he were like in a play, I fear for
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Speaker 2: the other actors because I do think he would be
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Speaker 2: like poisoning people to be like, I know other lines.
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Speaker 2: I'll go on tonight. Like I totally.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. you know what let's risk money i mean you.
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Speaker 3: Know i want to put the kid in the shot
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Speaker 3: or whatever oh mary oh mito oh mito i want
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Speaker 3: to see oh mary so bad when it comes to
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Speaker 3: la i'm i'm definitely going to be seeing and would
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Speaker 3: love to picture mito in any of the roles while.
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Speaker 2: I'm watching yeah yeah definitely.
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Speaker 1: Um But yeah, she he wants to, of course, see
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Speaker 1: his face everywhere in New York, just like me. That
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Speaker 1: makes sense. And then she is just like the sex
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Speaker 1: life is great. And we see Debbie. Debbie looks lovely.
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Speaker 1: Later on for her. I have a picture of her
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Speaker 1: from the actual tell all and they really do such
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Speaker 1: a beautiful job with her. hair and makeup. Now she
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Speaker 1: also is sporting some blonde highlights. What do you think
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Speaker 1: about these blonde highlights, boo?
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Speaker 2: I'm so happy that she went a little bit lighter.
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Speaker 2: I it's so funny. Cause I'm like, this was one
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Speaker 2: of the obviously things that I clocked immediately. And I
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Speaker 2: was like, she needs a lighter base to me. Like
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Speaker 2: I love the highlights. I wish that her like actual
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Speaker 2: base color was not so, so dark still, but I
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Speaker 2: think they look great. And I think she is to me,
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Speaker 2: Debbie is just like a sweet.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: She it's just way too dark.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: I like her blonde highlights. What do you think? Do
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Speaker 2: you like them or are you not into them?
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Speaker 1: Oh, no, I really like them. I think that she,
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Speaker 1: you know, there's a part of her that really enjoys
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Speaker 1: a certain amount of, like, glam. Like, the way that
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Speaker 1: her vanity is set up. Like, how many Louis V's
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Speaker 1: she has. You know, like, she likes to assume that
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Speaker 1: she is like that. Like, and I think that she is.
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Speaker 1: She has a certain amount of, like, Southern decorum like that.
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Speaker 1: So it really brightens her up. I think it, like,
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Speaker 1: is youthful. I really, yeah, I love the form of it.
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Speaker 2: Even just having that amount of hair to me signifies
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Speaker 2: that she like kind of knows what to do. You
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Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, it's like, that's a lot
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Speaker 2: to take care of. So it's like, she's, she's doing it.
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Speaker 2: She's doing stuff. I kind of think, I kind of
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Speaker 2: think it is. I don't know. I mean, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't look to me, her hair, if it is extensions,
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Speaker 2: it does not look like extensions. And I don't know.
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Speaker 2: She might just have that really fricking thick hair. Cause
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Speaker 2: even in the, in like the show when it's like straight,
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Speaker 2: most of the time, like straight hair, plust extensions can
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Speaker 2: be like very like there can just yeah yeah she
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Speaker 2: got thick ass hair and i love the highlights we
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Speaker 2: love the highlights for debbie and i just wish that
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Speaker 2: she was with someone who who appreciated her a little
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Speaker 2: more i.
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Speaker 1: Will tell you this um on the 90 day instagram
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Speaker 1: they have a tell-all kind of like clip you know
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Speaker 1: like this is what's coming and we saw her say
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Speaker 1: this in the part one where she goes, this is
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Speaker 1: getting uncomfortable. And I had in the comment saying like,
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Speaker 1: Debbie saying that this is getting uncomfortable after what we
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Speaker 1: watched her enjoy the entire season is one of the
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Speaker 1: most hilarious things. And that, that comment has like over
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Speaker 1: a thousand likes.
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Speaker 2: I love, I love.
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Speaker 1: Because it's true. Like she, I mean, to watch what
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Speaker 1: she just kept saying yes to, not only us, we
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Speaker 1: also had her friends saying, Like in real times, almost like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: just like mirroring us back to like being like, no,
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Speaker 1: we get it. It's like a voice of reason. Like
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Speaker 1: we're like, we saw ourselves, the fear in their eyes
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Speaker 1: being like, we don't know, you know?
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Speaker 2: Totally, totally, totally. Her friends got in like a huge
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Speaker 2: fight with him and they were like, you suck. It's like,
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Speaker 2: we all have seen this other side of him that
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Speaker 2: I feel like she just, yeah, she refuses. And it's
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Speaker 2: really a bummer.
17:20
Speaker 1: Do you think we're going to get those sluts on
17:21
Speaker 1: the part two?
17:24
Speaker 2: Wait, do you, do I think we're going to get what?
17:27
Speaker 1: I said those sluts. And by that, Oh.
17:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, um, come again. Uh,
17:35
Speaker 2: I do. Yeah. 100%. Or cause I'm like, we'll either
17:39
Speaker 2: get those sluts or we'll get her kids. And I'm
17:41
Speaker 2: kind of more into those sluts. Oh, cause her kids
17:45
Speaker 2: are like too polite and nice. Like her kids are
17:47
Speaker 2: going to be like, I don't know. I feel like
17:49
Speaker 2: we need, we need her friends to be like, yeah,
17:52
Speaker 2: this fucking relationship's crazy. I feel like her kids are
17:54
Speaker 2: going to be like, if he's making my mom happy,
17:56
Speaker 2: I don't know. Her kids just seem very lovely and sweet.
18:00
Speaker 1: Was it at all weird to you that like Caden
18:02
Speaker 1: hadn't met Mito?
18:03
Speaker 2: Oh, so weird. Wait, how about when Mito was like,
18:06
Speaker 2: you're my best friend now or something?
18:08
Speaker 1: Like, remember that?
18:10
Speaker 3: Yeah.
18:12
Speaker 2: I wonder if that's true. I wonder if they've become
18:13
Speaker 2: best friends since, since filming that.
18:16
Speaker 1: I can't tell whether they think they live far away
18:18
Speaker 1: or close to each other. Like, cause he's like two
18:20
Speaker 1: hours away. And to me, I'm like, okay, so close. Yeah.
18:24
Speaker 2: Close enough.
18:26
Speaker 1: Yeah. But it seems like when they said two hours,
18:28
Speaker 1: they were like 17 hours. Yeah.
18:31
Speaker 2: Well, I also feel like Caden, it does seem like
18:36
Speaker 2: Caden maybe is like secretly doesn't approve either. of the
18:42
Speaker 2: whole thing and so he's just like trying to distance
18:44
Speaker 2: himself because he's like i don't want to deal with
18:46
Speaker 2: this like this is some crazy harebrained like scheme of
18:50
Speaker 2: that's happening that i like want no part i don't
18:51
Speaker 2: know part of me is like maybe he's showing his
18:54
Speaker 2: dislike by removing i don't know.
18:58
Speaker 1: Yeah i don't know i don't know we'll see honey
19:01
Speaker 1: but um let's see We move on. Katie and Josh
19:05
Speaker 1: of course arrived to New York. Now she's already wondering
19:09
Speaker 1: if people are going to have negative things to say
19:11
Speaker 1: about her. And the truth of the matter is I would,
19:16
Speaker 1: I would, the minute I signed my name on the
19:18
Speaker 1: 90 day contract that I was going to join, I
19:22
Speaker 1: would have to have already accepted that people are going
19:28
Speaker 1: to say bad things. And then from that moment, try
19:31
Speaker 1: desperately to, to keep my behavior on the up and up.
19:36
Speaker 2: Sure.
19:36
Speaker 1: God bless that is not what happened with Katie. Nope.
19:40
Speaker 1: It just seems a little interesting that now she's worrying
19:42
Speaker 1: about that.
19:45
Speaker 2: I feel like, I think that, yeah, I really think
19:48
Speaker 2: that she maybe thought that it was going to come
19:50
Speaker 2: across as like a fun, quirky, like, I don't know,
19:52
Speaker 2: I just like to make out with people. And then
19:54
Speaker 2: everyone was like, you know, and I feel like she's, yeah,
19:56
Speaker 2: she's shocked by that. Which is devastating.
20:04
Speaker 1: Yeah. Every time that she mentions it, she does feel
20:08
Speaker 1: like She's waiting for the response to be this. Katie, no,
20:14
Speaker 1: you did. Oh my God. No, Katie, come on. You're so,
20:17
Speaker 1: you are so crazy.
20:19
Speaker 2: Which I feel like is what her weird best friend
20:21
Speaker 2: does to her. So she gets that from like her
20:23
Speaker 2: real life. You know what I mean? Yeah. She gets
20:27
Speaker 2: like those people that are like, I don't know.
20:28
Speaker 1: It's Katie.
20:29
Speaker 2: It's just her. And it's like, shit, man.
20:31
Speaker 3: I don't know.
20:32
Speaker 2: Yeah.
20:33
Speaker 1: Because I'll never forget the, when she told her mom.
20:37
Speaker 1: And her mom was like, oh, Katie. And she's like, oh,
20:41
Speaker 1: and she seemed genuinely shocked that her mom's reaction wasn't
20:45
Speaker 1: what I just said it was going to be.
20:46
Speaker 2: Totally.
20:47
Speaker 1: That it was negative.
20:48
Speaker 2: Totally. Yeah. I, I want to know more about Katie's
20:52
Speaker 2: childhood with those.
20:54
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
20:55
Speaker 2: Like, I want to know more about, cause I'm like
20:58
Speaker 2: the mom I do feel is like, has the right
21:03
Speaker 2: idea of like, okay, that's wrong. You like, why would
21:06
Speaker 2: you do that? You know, I think that she has that,
21:08
Speaker 2: but at the same time, I'm also like, I don't know.
21:11
Speaker 2: Is Katie really just like on her own path and like,
21:14
Speaker 2: there's no steering it or is like, I don't know.
21:16
Speaker 2: I just am curious. I'm like, was the mom a
21:19
Speaker 2: little harsh when she.
21:20
Speaker 1: Was, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
21:21
Speaker 2: I'm not going to make any assumptions, but I do wonder.
21:25
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's because that's why you don't want to make assumptions.
21:29
Speaker 2: You want your answer.
21:31
Speaker 1: So you don't have to make any assumptions.
21:32
Speaker 2: I want the answers.
21:33
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Like how were they, were they
21:38
Speaker 1: super religious more so growing up? And did that play
21:42
Speaker 1: into the way that she viewed certain things? Like, I
21:45
Speaker 1: don't know a lot about Lutherans. So in a sense,
21:48
Speaker 1: like I felt Luther, I'm like, I Lutherans, I didn't
21:53
Speaker 1: know if they were like conservative on the whatever, the
21:58
Speaker 1: like spectrum of Christianity, whatever. In the sense, yeah, like
22:04
Speaker 1: are they puritanical at all? And that's a weird word
22:06
Speaker 1: to use, but you know what I'm saying?
22:07
Speaker 2: And then if they are, then like this behavior could
22:09
Speaker 2: be some sort of like rebellion, but then because she's like,
22:12
Speaker 2: but I still want to raise my family Lutheran. That
22:14
Speaker 2: seems like weird. Like I was raised super religious also
22:17
Speaker 2: in a very concert, you know, whatever, but it's like,
22:19
Speaker 2: I feel like I also had this like rebellion, but
22:21
Speaker 2: I also am not like, yeah, I want to raise
22:23
Speaker 2: my kids in that same religion that I felt oppressed by.
22:25
Speaker 1: Yeah.
22:26
Speaker 2: You know, I think it's very interesting.
22:31
Speaker 1: Like I can't tell, they seem like they're not a
22:33
Speaker 1: close family, you know, like, um, it seemed interesting to
22:37
Speaker 1: me that Katie just assumed that maybe she could ask
22:39
Speaker 1: her parents if they would host the wedding, but no,
22:41
Speaker 1: they wouldn't host the wedding. I don't know if their
22:43
Speaker 1: parents was going to, we're going to offer any money.
22:46
Speaker 1: I don't know if she's getting anything. I don't know
22:48
Speaker 1: if they don't like, if they're, they seem to be
22:51
Speaker 1: wanting her to get married, but it seems to be
22:53
Speaker 1: from a place of he's mature. So it felt like
22:57
Speaker 1: her mom was like, he's mature.
23:00
Speaker 2: Um, Yeah. Almost like, okay, like he can take care
23:04
Speaker 2: of her now. Yeah. In a way. Yeah.
23:08
Speaker 1: Yeah.
23:11
Speaker 2: Again, that's the one, that's the one that actually I'm
23:13
Speaker 2: like kind of a little sad, like a little, like not,
23:16
Speaker 2: I don't know. But I also think a lot about
23:19
Speaker 2: how you liken Katie and Shay. And I do truly
23:24
Speaker 2: agree with that so much where I'm like, yeah, like
23:26
Speaker 2: she is, she's a wild child, but like, I don't know.
23:31
Speaker 2: She seems like there's other people on the show that
23:33
Speaker 2: are the same, but maybe they're just not quite as, uh,
23:35
Speaker 2: outward with their like insecurity about it or something.
23:38
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. What did you think
23:43
Speaker 1: of this dumb ass scene where we had to see
23:44
Speaker 1: Thomas and Paula like fight over whether he was going
23:47
Speaker 1: to buy her a miniature statue of Liberty that probably
23:49
Speaker 1: costs like one cent.
23:53
Speaker 2: He really is just, he loves to play the cheap
23:56
Speaker 2: card and it actually pisses me off so much. Cause
23:58
Speaker 2: one of my, one of my hot takes about Thomas
24:01
Speaker 2: is that like, I get where he's coming from in
24:04
Speaker 2: some ways with like sitting on the yoga blocks. Like
24:06
Speaker 2: I'm like, Ooh, very blue zones. Like I kind of,
24:08
Speaker 2: I am like, yeah, like sure. You're going to, you know,
24:11
Speaker 2: work those hip flexors in some type of way every
24:14
Speaker 2: time you eat. Like, and there's a fucked up part
24:15
Speaker 2: of me that I'm like, I get where you're coming from,
24:18
Speaker 2: but I wish that he would like not be so cheap.
24:21
Speaker 2: Cause it would be so, it would be like, Oh,
24:22
Speaker 2: if you want to be this like healthy, like yoga,
24:26
Speaker 2: you know, whatever guy, then that's cool. But like, fire
24:30
Speaker 2: the fucking Statue of Liberty, you know? I'm actually cool
24:33
Speaker 2: with no dining table, but I'm like, get her her
24:35
Speaker 2: cheap mini shit.
24:37
Speaker 1: God. I feel like he should get her a dining
24:40
Speaker 1: table and he can do whatever he wants in his life,
24:42
Speaker 1: but he has to understand that, honey, that people think
24:45
Speaker 1: they're going to usually sit at a dining table and
24:47
Speaker 1: it's like... So, you know, like you are the odd
24:49
Speaker 1: one out, which is fine. Like, except that you want
24:52
Speaker 1: this weird path and you go on it, but like.
24:55
Speaker 4: Don't force people on your weird path.
24:58
Speaker 1: Yeah.
24:59
Speaker 2: Yeah.
24:59
Speaker 1: Your religion on someone like she, her religion is decidedly.
25:03
Speaker 1: I sit at a normal table and his religion is obviously,
25:06
Speaker 1: you know, just small.
25:08
Speaker 2: And I do like what she says to him later
25:10
Speaker 2: where she's like, you live in a normal world. Like
25:12
Speaker 2: people are going to be, you know, people are going
25:15
Speaker 2: to be wanting to sit at a dining table. People
25:16
Speaker 2: are going to be wearing perfume. There's like, people are
25:19
Speaker 2: going to be not worried about what Thomas is feeling
25:23
Speaker 2: at every like moment. And I am like, yeah, Paula
25:26
Speaker 2: moved here. Like she needs to use your money. And
25:28
Speaker 2: if her, and if it's about buying her little shit,
25:31
Speaker 2: then like you kind of knew that going into it, Thomas,
25:33
Speaker 2: you know?
25:34
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, isn't that better than her being like, buy
25:37
Speaker 1: me this Fendi jumpsuit.
25:42
Speaker 2: Yes, totally. Well, I think about like Jasmine and Gino
25:44
Speaker 2: or something. And it's like, I'm sure the lifestyle that
25:46
Speaker 2: like some people come in with and then their husband
25:50
Speaker 2: ends up being a cheap fucker. And then you're like,
25:52
Speaker 2: this sucks. Whereas like Paula's like, I just want 10
25:54
Speaker 2: bucks every once in a while to buy a couple
25:55
Speaker 2: of minis. Mini Statue of Liberty, you know? Yeah, why not?
26:01
Speaker 2: Whatever I'm into. Minis. I love Paula.
26:06
Speaker 1: I am. I know, I love Paula too. I feel
26:08
Speaker 1: like I, it was so interesting. I feel like they
26:09
Speaker 1: didn't do enough fun work southern california things like.
26:12
Speaker 2: It yeah he's too cheap what are they supposed to.
26:16
Speaker 4: Do yeah you're absolutely bike ride bike ride bike ride
26:20
Speaker 4: he's like bike rides i do like uh yeah like
26:25
Speaker 4: when they i also feel like because they're in long
26:27
Speaker 4: beach i'm like i wonder like i don't know there's
26:29
Speaker 4: certainly there's.
26:30
Speaker 2: Some really fun like long beach things that are i
26:34
Speaker 2: don't know i just feel like yeah you're right they
26:36
Speaker 2: didn't they didn't show us enough of that It was
26:40
Speaker 2: a lot of inside the apartment.
26:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.
26:42
Speaker 2: They could have gone to like, yeah, I go to
26:44
Speaker 2: seal beach. Like I used to go to seal beach
26:46
Speaker 2: all the time. Love seal beach. So fun.
26:51
Speaker 1: Well, you really missed that mark, honey.
26:53
Speaker 2: They missed that mark.
26:55
Speaker 1: Asha's the, uh, we see her and, you know, no Maxwell,
26:58
Speaker 1: which makes sense. And we can, she already is giving
27:01
Speaker 1: us that. She knows that the blood, the blood, the
27:02
Speaker 1: blood hit. And so she also has been very vocal
27:06
Speaker 1: on Tik TOK. And so she knows that people think
27:09
Speaker 1: that she's crazy with the tongues and everything like that. And, um,
27:14
Speaker 1: you know, she, yeah. I mean, then she just does
27:17
Speaker 1: it more.
27:20
Speaker 2: I really started to love her in this episode. Um,
27:23
Speaker 2: Because like, first of all, her like language kind of,
27:26
Speaker 2: have you seen that when people do light language? No.
27:30
Speaker 2: That weird, oh, I can't wait to send you this later.
27:32
Speaker 2: It's always some like weird, like in the woods, they're
27:35
Speaker 2: doing this like light language and it's like, it very
27:37
Speaker 2: much reminds me of that. And I'm like, this is
27:39
Speaker 2: so great. And I do like that. And I was
27:41
Speaker 2: actually going to ask you, cause I'm like, so they
27:44
Speaker 2: air the season and then they do the tell all. Like,
27:47
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Cause her knowing that the blood,
27:49
Speaker 2: the blood hit, I was like, oh, she knows that already.
27:51
Speaker 1: Interesting.
27:51
Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
27:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, they tape it like, I mean, let's say it
27:56
Speaker 1: was 18 episodes. Like they usually start to tape it
27:59
Speaker 1: around like six or something like that. And so that
28:02
Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah.
28:03
Speaker 2: Okay. Wow.
28:05
Speaker 1: Yeah. She always has a fan and she's always hot
28:09
Speaker 1: and I'm happy for her. Mallory and Paola kind of
28:12
Speaker 1: like meet and talk behind stage. They like each other.
28:16
Speaker 1: We see a long shot on a makeup artist going
28:20
Speaker 1: in with like an Anastasia... it was like the entire
28:24
Speaker 1: pro palette of all the Anastasia dual eye, uh, eyebrow shadows.
28:28
Speaker 1: And I was just like, Oh my God, remember that one?
28:30
Speaker 1: I still use Anastasia, like the pencil and I use
28:34
Speaker 1: it in taupe, which is so funny.
28:37
Speaker 2: They have great products. It's one of those things where
28:39
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, it's great. I fully, I also love,
28:42
Speaker 2: I love that you always clock the beauty products because
28:45
Speaker 2: I'm like, it is fascinating to see what they're using.
28:47
Speaker 1: Like it's great.
28:48
Speaker 2: But the, yeah.
28:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why I'm like, it's interesting. I
28:52
Speaker 1: also just like, you know, the thought of the idea
28:54
Speaker 1: that like, someone's going to like put an eyebrow on Katie, like,
28:57
Speaker 1: you know, just make it up from that palette is
28:59
Speaker 1: exciting to me, you know, like, yeah, what are you
29:01
Speaker 1: gonna use?
29:03
Speaker 2: Well, you're gonna blend colors together.
29:04
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. You know, God bless you. Like, you know, like,
29:07
Speaker 1: obviously your hair, but you know, it's like having to
29:10
Speaker 1: just look at something and then suddenly be like, well,
29:14
Speaker 1: what is it going to be? I'm, you know, like
29:16
Speaker 1: what color is this person? And then it's just like,
29:18
Speaker 1: it's so interesting because Katie's, you know, Katie, people have
29:21
Speaker 1: really come for Katie and her makeup. And I don't
29:23
Speaker 1: think that her makeup was that bad.
29:25
Speaker 2: I'm with you.
29:26
Speaker 1: 100%.
29:26
Speaker 2: I saw something like that about her too. I I'm
29:29
Speaker 2: basically only on Reddit these days for 90 day fiance content,
29:34
Speaker 2: but it's like, but yeah, people really are talking shit
29:36
Speaker 2: about like her eyebrow color. And I'm like, it's redheads
29:38
Speaker 2: are tough. Like also redheads, redheads are tough. And Katie,
29:42
Speaker 2: as we also know, is not loving to spend a
29:44
Speaker 2: lot of money on stuff. So it's, like, I don't
29:46
Speaker 2: picture her buying an Anastasia or, you know, a nicer...
29:50
Speaker 2: I picture her, like, going to CVS and being, like, okay,
29:54
Speaker 2: I take the Auburn one. Like, that's my... And it
29:56
Speaker 2: looks great. I think that Katie's actually... very pretty and
29:59
Speaker 2: she does a good job on her makeup.
30:01
Speaker 1: Same. I think she's really pretty.
30:02
Speaker 2: When we see her with no makeup, it's like she
30:05
Speaker 2: does a lot with her makeup.
30:07
Speaker 1: She does, you know, cause she's, you know, a pale lady,
30:10
Speaker 1: you know, she's a pale lady. Yeah. Do you follow
30:13
Speaker 1: someone else who we used to work with at Real Fidelity?
30:15
Speaker 1: Do you follow Emily, Emily Bossick? No, no. Okay. We,
30:21
Speaker 1: were we worked with this lady named Emily Bosick, who
30:23
Speaker 1: was best friends with Jonathan Van Ness. Okay. And she had,
30:27
Speaker 1: she had red, red, red, red hair. She always, she
30:28
Speaker 1: still does. It's like her thing, like really red hair.
30:33
Speaker 1: Her hair naturally, I think is like blonde or something
30:35
Speaker 1: like that. She like often posts herself with or without
30:37
Speaker 1: makeup because in like, she is wildly hot. She was
30:42
Speaker 1: like a very hot lady. And so because she has
30:45
Speaker 1: literally so many male followers, she like has fun with, Also,
30:48
Speaker 1: I'm going to, like, move my foot like this.
30:52
Speaker 2: That was really impressive, honestly. You're like, I'm just going
30:55
Speaker 2: to move it like this. I'm just setting the sun.
30:59
Speaker 2: I know, it was so weird. This is great.
31:02
Speaker 1: Like, she, yeah, she'll post her stuff with that makeup. And,
31:04
Speaker 1: you know, you can really see a difference. Like, you know,
31:06
Speaker 1: you can really, like, draw on full features. And, yeah, like,
31:10
Speaker 1: but also, yeah, like, she... Her hair always looked so great,
31:13
Speaker 1: but her best friend was a colorist. And I don't know.
31:16
Speaker 1: He lives in London. I don't know if he's, like,
31:17
Speaker 1: coloring her hair now. But, like, the upkeep of red
31:19
Speaker 1: hair is really, really, really intense, you know?
31:22
Speaker 2: Really intense.
31:23
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about. You remember that lovely lady, right?
31:26
Speaker 2: I don't think I actually, like, crossed paths with her.
31:28
Speaker 2: But now that you're saying redhead, I'm like, oh, I
31:31
Speaker 2: totally know who you're talking about. But I don't think
31:32
Speaker 2: we worked together at the same time.
31:33
Speaker 4: Okay.
31:35
Speaker 2: But I do think I know who you're talking about.
31:38
Speaker 1: Yeah. Jonathan Van Ness is best friend. He used to
31:40
Speaker 1: come in all the time. So crazy.
31:42
Speaker 2: I know he was so nice. I know he was
31:44
Speaker 2: such a nice man getting his to go to his takeout.
31:48
Speaker 4: Yeah.
31:49
Speaker 1: Yeah. I know. Um, anyway, it's 40 billion years to go. Okay. So, uh,
31:56
Speaker 1: Katie gets there. She has like a pink bag. Now
31:59
Speaker 1: here is where something that is a little like none
32:02
Speaker 1: of the fiance. I mean, inner circle call out is
32:05
Speaker 1: that when Marissa gets there, With Edward, she, of course,
32:08
Speaker 1: wants help with her luggage. No one else needs it,
32:10
Speaker 1: but Marissa expects it. And we see a shot of
32:14
Speaker 1: who now, to me, is like a minor 90-day celebrity.
32:18
Speaker 1: It's this producer that has now been on multiple tell-alls.
32:23
Speaker 1: I first clocked this producer when she had to get
32:26
Speaker 1: Emma the receipts through texts. But now you can tell
32:31
Speaker 1: it's the same girl. You can tell me, Loki, you're like,
32:35
Speaker 1: it's like a local character she's kind of like yeah
32:37
Speaker 1: like the girl that has to like do all the
32:40
Speaker 1: schleppy schlep stuff you know but like.
32:43
Speaker 2: She needs her own little like mini series.
32:48
Speaker 1: They should give her like i don't know her name
32:49
Speaker 1: let's just pretend it's like kelsey like kelsey's corner like
32:52
Speaker 1: of every tell all where she's like like kelsey what's
32:54
Speaker 1: been happening like what's you're on the beat and kelsey's
32:57
Speaker 1: like i'll tell you right now um you marissa keeps
33:01
Speaker 1: asking for more ice but i hope It's freezing outside.
33:05
Speaker 1: We're filming like during Christmas. I don't understand. I'm just
33:07
Speaker 1: going and getting snow. You know, you're like, whatever. Yeah.
33:10
Speaker 2: Oh, I would love, I would love to hear Kelsey's corner.
33:14
Speaker 2: Even if her name's not Kelsey, she needs to have
33:17
Speaker 2: a show called that.
33:18
Speaker 1: It would be nice if it had alliteration or something. Agree. Yeah.
33:23
Speaker 2: Would kill for it. Honestly. Speaking of filming during Christmas,
33:28
Speaker 2: I was like, it doesn't seem as cold as it
33:30
Speaker 2: usually is for a tell all, which I was surprised by.
33:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually don't think they filmed during Christmas because
33:35
Speaker 1: I know that Mito and Debbie's wedding happened in November.
33:38
Speaker 2: Oh, OK. OK.
33:41
Speaker 1: So I think they probably filmed in like, yeah, like
33:45
Speaker 1: April or May.
33:46
Speaker 2: I just always picture like Darcy and Stacey rolling up
33:48
Speaker 2: with their like crazy fur coats. And like I always
33:50
Speaker 2: picture tell all is like, oh, it's cold. I like
33:53
Speaker 2: got to go and put on my little dress, you know.
33:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could have seen this again.
33:56
Speaker 2: We could have seen that again. Oh, come on. We
33:59
Speaker 2: could have had way more stuff for Kelsey to carry
34:01
Speaker 2: from Marissa.
34:05
Speaker 1: Marissa's like, can you go take care of Cole?
34:11
Speaker 2: This is super dumb and random, but I have one
34:14
Speaker 2: of my best friends is named Derek Cole. And when
34:18
Speaker 2: the episode comes where she, you don't know her kids'
34:21
Speaker 2: names and she yells into the house, Derek Cole. And
34:25
Speaker 2: I was just like, I'm upset. And he loves 98
34:28
Speaker 2: Fiance too. So I screenshotted it and I was like,
34:30
Speaker 2: this is the time of your life.
34:33
Speaker 1: Ringtone? I'm like, what do you do? Yeah, like Derek Cole. Yeah,
34:36
Speaker 1: I love it. Love it. Her like accent. You know,
34:39
Speaker 1: I just think that my experience is just a different experience.
34:42
Speaker 1: So it's just, I'm older than him. So I have
34:44
Speaker 1: to explain a lot to him.
34:46
Speaker 2: Even in the beginning when she's like, don't go on tangents.
34:48
Speaker 2: You don't know what that means.
34:49
Speaker 1: It's okay.
34:50
Speaker 2: I'm like, girl, just please explain it then. He doesn't
34:53
Speaker 2: know what tangent means. So be like, oh, you know,
34:55
Speaker 2: a tangent is when you like go on and on
34:56
Speaker 2: about like a thing. Like as Mallory would explain to Rashid,
35:02
Speaker 2: like just explain what the word is. Because also, I
35:05
Speaker 2: know I'm getting ahead of myself, but I'm like, there's
35:07
Speaker 2: the moment where she's like, how are you going to
35:09
Speaker 2: learn more English if you're so into this new Dominican scene?
35:13
Speaker 2: And it's like, because she lives with you. And he
35:17
Speaker 2: could be learning more from his wife if she would
35:20
Speaker 2: just take the minute to be like, hey, this is
35:23
Speaker 2: what that is. I don't know.
35:24
Speaker 1: No, you're absolutely right. Sean does that. Okay. So... basically,
35:30
Speaker 1: let's just... So Shay and Anna come. When they come,
35:32
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, it's been so long
35:33
Speaker 1: since I've seen them. I forgot who they were. Mito
35:36
Speaker 1: and Rashid have a good moment where they're like, oh, you, you!
35:39
Speaker 1: Slightly different accent! Slightly different accent! You know, but they're
35:42
Speaker 1: both like, they're both like, yeah, but I don't know
35:45
Speaker 1: if I want to, you know. Probably Mito was like,
35:47
Speaker 1: best friend, but like, Rash was like, I've seen them.
35:49
Speaker 2: He said, I can't trust you.
35:50
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sorry. Mito's like, me? Why? I.
35:59
Speaker 2: I have not seen Rosh's TikToks. And I know because
36:02
Speaker 2: I feel like I've heard from you that they're not great.
36:06
Speaker 2: And I really don't want to know in a way
36:08
Speaker 2: because I'm like, I love him from the show. I
36:10
Speaker 2: don't want to know that he's a little shitty.
36:14
Speaker 1: He is. I think that, listen, not everyone's fully perfect.
36:17
Speaker 1: And for some reason, I don't know if he paid
36:18
Speaker 1: all the producers, but they gave him such a good edit.
36:21
Speaker 1: They made him look, I mean, like Christ-like. Yes. Except
36:24
Speaker 1: for this tell-all. Then here's the thing. We'll get into it.
36:27
Speaker 1: I think the tell-all... Truly, Thomas is, you know, obnoxious.
36:31
Speaker 1: But Rush is kind of a fucking immature dick. Stir
36:37
Speaker 1: in the pot. Like, dumb dick. Like, no one would want, like,
36:41
Speaker 1: their dude to be like, I'm going to go do
36:42
Speaker 1: this prank. Like, no. It would much be better if
36:45
Speaker 1: you were, like, worried about your own life or something
36:48
Speaker 1: that was interesting. Like, you shouldn't have the energy to
36:50
Speaker 1: go fuck with someone. Like, period. Like, yeah. It's gross.
36:54
Speaker 1: It's gross.
36:55
Speaker 3: It is.
36:56
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
36:57
Speaker 2: And even how he goes out to the, whatever.
36:59
Speaker 1: Yeah.
36:59
Speaker 2: It's all, you're like, yeah, get, get your, get a life.
37:03
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, listen, cause it's like, I don't want
37:06
Speaker 1: to be on this person's side, but this person, you
37:09
Speaker 1: know what is flexible. I mean, Thomas, I don't want
37:11
Speaker 1: to be on Thomas's side, but I'm like, well, he
37:14
Speaker 1: does have a routine, doesn't he? Yeah. Yeah.
37:16
Speaker 2: Again, my, my, dumb break i like saw him doing
37:25
Speaker 2: yoga and i was like oh and then i was
37:26
Speaker 2: also like unfortunately that probably would also be me if
37:29
Speaker 2: you like got off like a six-hour flight to new
37:31
Speaker 2: york from long beach or whatever from la you're wanting
37:34
Speaker 2: to stretch when you get there you're like oh gotta
37:36
Speaker 2: get it out and i'm like i hate that i
37:38
Speaker 2: am on his side ever but i am on his
37:40
Speaker 2: side unfortunately more than i like to even admit.
37:44
Speaker 1: I i agree Edward does this thing where he's like,
37:48
Speaker 1: I'm going to pretend I'm the little mayor and walk around.
37:50
Speaker 1: I'm going to say hi to everyone, you know, and
37:51
Speaker 1: Edward like says hi to Josh. Look at these two
37:53
Speaker 1: fun people having the best time ever. Josh is like, Oh,
37:56
Speaker 1: someone who's going to be nice to me, you know, like, yeah. Um,
38:02
Speaker 1: Asha is by far to me, the best dressed. I mean,
38:05
Speaker 1: she comes honey. I mean, in this corset, she cannot
38:09
Speaker 1: sit in it. It's a, it's a corset. That's why
38:12
Speaker 1: you can't, it's not a corset. Uh, she kind of
38:15
Speaker 1: has to be this like pose the whole time I
38:17
Speaker 1: know like this like but I know she absolutely does
38:20
Speaker 1: like I she looks body yaddy yaddy but like yeah
38:23
Speaker 1: the kind of like lean back yeah place to like.
38:27
Speaker 2: But she figured it out she did it she figured
38:30
Speaker 2: it out she looks amazing there's a moment like at
38:33
Speaker 2: some point during the episode where I see her like
38:35
Speaker 2: rubbing the beads and I was like I want to
38:37
Speaker 2: feel what that feels like it probably feels amazing I
38:39
Speaker 2: would be sitting there the whole time just like like
38:41
Speaker 2: it just it's so beautiful.
38:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
38:44
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
38:45
Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Sensory like that. Right. Asia thinks that
38:50
Speaker 1: Thomas is a hothead and she would know. Also, of
38:52
Speaker 1: all the people, it's like he is. But like, I
38:56
Speaker 1: don't know. I think that Mito is a hothead or
38:58
Speaker 1: but Katie comes in. Everyone's now sitting. But Katie just
39:05
Speaker 1: keeps saying that she hopes people don't think that she's
39:08
Speaker 1: an alcoholic and a hoe. which is a precursor to
39:11
Speaker 1: what people do think. And she's, you know, like she's
39:13
Speaker 1: not setting herself up for success. She should have come
39:16
Speaker 1: in already thinking that's going to happen and be like, okay,
39:18
Speaker 1: people are going to come for me. It's like, she
39:21
Speaker 1: can't be like, I hope people don't come for me.
39:23
Speaker 1: Like she had to come in being like, I know.
39:25
Speaker 1: And I have prepared myself like everyone else has for
39:29
Speaker 1: this battle.
39:30
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm going to come defensive. She didn't come defensive.
39:35
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, like, I hate to say this. It's
39:37
Speaker 1: like two things. Either you come in being like, you guys,
39:40
Speaker 1: let me be very fucking honest. I did not know
39:43
Speaker 1: how my shit was going to come off until I
39:45
Speaker 1: started watching it. And now I'm watching it and I'm hearing...
39:49
Speaker 1: some notes and I will say a lot of those
39:51
Speaker 1: notes are mean spirited and fuck you, but I will
39:55
Speaker 1: say there's some truth, some truth. And I hear them
39:59
Speaker 1: and I will be like, you know what? I, I
40:00
Speaker 1: do acknowledge that I, I tend to enjoy losing, uh,
40:05
Speaker 1: you know, the, my responsibility for my own actions when
40:08
Speaker 1: it comes to alcohol. And I've been using that as
40:11
Speaker 1: an excuse.
40:13
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if someone on this show ever was
40:16
Speaker 2: like that aware and that evolved I would love that
40:24
Speaker 2: can you imagine if she was on the telephone saying
40:25
Speaker 2: that you'd be like yes everyone would be like fuck
40:28
Speaker 2: yeah Katie good job that's amazing so I.
40:31
Speaker 1: Checked myself voluntarily into an outpatient program I'm working on
40:37
Speaker 1: it yeah I'm California sober I'm Portland sober I'm Oregon sober.
40:44
Speaker 2: I will say have you been to Portland no but I.
40:46
Speaker 1: Want to go I want to go so bad you
40:49
Speaker 1: have no idea.
40:50
Speaker 2: I love Portland, first of all. And I can't imagine
40:54
Speaker 2: how hard it would be to be sober from alcohol
40:56
Speaker 2: in Portland. It's like, I don't really even like drinking
40:59
Speaker 2: that much. And the bars there are like, it's like,
41:01
Speaker 2: I would say my favorite like bar scene where you're like, yeah, it's.
41:04
Speaker 1: Like you go to the bars.
41:05
Speaker 2: It's like they're great bars. Great bars. Also, side note.
41:09
Speaker 3: Okay.
41:11
Speaker 2: As far as Josh's bachelor, his stag do and them
41:15
Speaker 2: not going to a strip club. Portland has like the
41:18
Speaker 2: most strip clubs out of anywhere. and like they have
41:21
Speaker 2: really fun like there's there's like really fun ones where
41:24
Speaker 2: it's like it's not even that it's like the girls
41:27
Speaker 2: are like gymnasts and like they do strip roki and
41:30
Speaker 2: it's like there's just like fun strip club culture too
41:34
Speaker 2: kitschy yeah so I'm like why would you guys not
41:36
Speaker 2: like you're in the best place for that I don't
41:38
Speaker 2: know maybe they don't allow recording or something but anyway
41:40
Speaker 2: that's my that was my other like this is such
41:42
Speaker 2: a missed opportunity it's the best place for that.
41:46
Speaker 1: He doesn't have one male friend that came I know
41:49
Speaker 1: He just had all his red-haired friends, red-haired females come.
41:53
Speaker 1: I know.
41:54
Speaker 2: That was very interesting. Feels telling.
41:57
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then they bring him a costume to change
42:01
Speaker 1: into that is another pale red-haired lady. So true. And
42:06
Speaker 1: he pretends he doesn't know who she is.
42:08
Speaker 2: So true.
42:09
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
42:11
Speaker 2: And you're like, oh, I'm sure you know every red,
42:13
Speaker 2: every pale redhead that exists in the, in the public sphere.
42:16
Speaker 2: I'm sure you know who they are.
42:17
Speaker 1: Josh. Yeah, he's like obsessed with Sorcey. Or no, he's
42:21
Speaker 1: obsessed with that girl from Game of Thrones.
42:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, what the hell? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
42:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, that girl. Isla Fisher. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
42:32
Speaker 2: Isla Fisher fan.
42:36
Speaker 1: Yeah.
42:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, he loves the redhead. But yeah, it is sad
42:41
Speaker 2: in a way that you're like, you have no male
42:44
Speaker 2: friend or... I don't know, part of me also is like,
42:47
Speaker 2: it seems like the way that him and Katie met
42:49
Speaker 2: was that they all were kind of like, who's this
42:53
Speaker 2: little lady trying to make out with everyone? And so
42:56
Speaker 2: I'm like, I wonder if some of his male friends
42:58
Speaker 2: are just like, we're not going to that. Like, it's
43:00
Speaker 2: a fucking joke, you know? Whereas maybe those girls are
43:02
Speaker 2: a little more like, all right, I'll see it through
43:05
Speaker 2: for the plot. Let's go and see what happens.
43:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
43:09
Speaker 2: Go to Portland for a weekend.
43:11
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's why I like, I want the producers to
43:14
Speaker 1: have gotten... that in the story like i would have
43:18
Speaker 1: unfortunately liked to have known that like you know like
43:20
Speaker 1: i wish you know because they did set up the
43:22
Speaker 1: fact that she went on the date with the friend
43:24
Speaker 1: i wonder if the producers tried to get that friend
43:28
Speaker 1: that she initially had gone on the date with that
43:30
Speaker 1: was josh's friend to like at least do a zoom
43:32
Speaker 1: and talk about like or you know would you wouldn't
43:36
Speaker 1: you absolutely salivate if they were at the tell-all oh
43:39
Speaker 1: my god.
43:40
Speaker 2: I would love it but they never that's the that's
43:44
Speaker 2: the tragedy of being a 90 day fiance fan is
43:47
Speaker 2: that you never get the questions or the things that
43:49
Speaker 2: you want out of, out of the tell all you
43:52
Speaker 2: like always like, Oh my God, we're finally going to
43:54
Speaker 2: get this like thing answered. And then Sean's like, anyway,
43:57
Speaker 2: we'll move on. Let's go, let's go to this instead.
43:59
Speaker 2: And you're like, Jesus Christ, Sean. Yeah. Or, or the
44:01
Speaker 2: best guests for the tell all. And you're like, of
44:03
Speaker 2: course they won't give us that guy. They'll give us
44:05
Speaker 2: like her again, best friend who like, I think is
44:08
Speaker 2: kind of a shitty friend.
44:09
Speaker 1: I don't know.
44:10
Speaker 2: And that one guy that she made out with, that's
44:11
Speaker 2: also like, who even are you? Like, it's just so Ryan, Ryan.
44:16
Speaker 1: Yeah.
44:17
Speaker 2: Ryan, Ryan and Danica.
44:20
Speaker 1: Ryan wasn't even the one that was the best one
44:22
Speaker 1: where she went like that was like Katie, like that
44:25
Speaker 1: guy was the best one. I forgot that guy's name.
44:27
Speaker 2: That guy with her little tongue, just like trying to,
44:30
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, that guy was, it would have been
44:33
Speaker 2: way more entertaining at the tell all I bet. But
44:36
Speaker 2: you know what? Cause there's a, And I, yeah, there's
44:39
Speaker 2: a part that like we haven't seen yet or whatever.
44:42
Speaker 2: That's the coming up on bullshit where she tries to
44:46
Speaker 2: make out with someone and I'm, it is that guy.
44:48
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I wonder if that's why they got
44:50
Speaker 2: that guys. Cause they know that he's kind of like
44:52
Speaker 2: adding the most fuel to the makeout fire in a
44:55
Speaker 2: way for her and Josh.
44:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I, yeah, they'll reference a guy from a
44:59
Speaker 1: different running club. And I'm like, yeah, there's a lot
45:01
Speaker 1: that happens. Okay.
45:02
Speaker 2: Yeah.
45:03
Speaker 1: I know.
45:03
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I'm like, I feel like I can't
45:05
Speaker 2: be reeling.
45:06
Speaker 1: Don't apologize.
45:07
Speaker 2: This is what it is.
45:08
Speaker 1: So Sean starts by saying, finding love is hard. And
45:12
Speaker 1: then she says that. And it cuts to Katie, who
45:15
Speaker 1: gives such a hearty laugh that, like, it felt like
45:18
Speaker 1: Sean had touched her soul. Sean's like, hi, everyone. As
45:22
Speaker 1: you know, finding love is hard. And Katie's like... Just
45:27
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, girl.
45:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, keep it together, Katie.
45:32
Speaker 1: Katie also says that she thinks Mito is hot.
45:38
Speaker 2: Glam version of Josh.
45:43
Speaker 1: No, Katie. No, Katie. No. No. No, there's Mito. There's Josh.
45:50
Speaker 1: Oh my god. It's so....
45:54
Speaker 2: Crazy I am sorry I don't you know yeah Mito
45:57
Speaker 2: I mean thinking Mito's hot is just such an it
46:03
Speaker 2: also is so telling to be like oh yeah no
46:05
Speaker 2: wonder you make out with like every single thing who
46:07
Speaker 2: moves like you're just kind of desperado I don't know
46:11
Speaker 2: or you.
46:11
Speaker 1: Know I mean you really find the beauty in absolutely everyone.
46:17
Speaker 2: And that's a really good way to look at it
46:19
Speaker 2: I love that I actually am obsessed with that It's
46:22
Speaker 2: just like, it's so funny.
46:24
Speaker 1: Just like being an actor, you know how many times
46:25
Speaker 1: you have to like stare at someone's eyes, you know,
46:27
Speaker 1: like you're doing a scene with someone and then something
46:28
Speaker 1: like they'll say something like, you know, like if you
46:30
Speaker 1: have to, you know, like, listen, if you have to
46:33
Speaker 1: love someone in a scene, when you look into their eyes,
46:35
Speaker 1: there's a small piece of something you can find that
46:37
Speaker 1: you appreciate in anyone. You just let that feeling grow
46:40
Speaker 1: or whatever. And just like.
46:43
Speaker 2: I like it. I'm, I'm into it.
46:47
Speaker 1: Do you think Mito's hair is real? Because that's another
46:49
Speaker 1: hot topic on TikTok and Reddit. People think that the
46:52
Speaker 1: curly thing on top, my love, is a full toupee.
46:55
Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm obviously not shocking you that people
46:58
Speaker 1: are talking about this, right?
47:00
Speaker 2: You're not shocking me that people are talking about it.
47:02
Speaker 1: I don't know.
47:04
Speaker 2: Okay, because the color difference, not in the tell-all, but
47:07
Speaker 2: on the show is crazy.
47:09
Speaker 1: It's not as bad.
47:10
Speaker 2: It's not as bad in the tell-all. So And, but
47:14
Speaker 2: the color difference, I'm almost like willing to even defend
47:17
Speaker 2: because like, but I'm also not, cause I'm like lightening
47:20
Speaker 2: short hair is hard. And so it would be easier
47:23
Speaker 2: to lighten the hair on top, but it also looks
47:25
Speaker 2: like it's all over just a different color. It could
47:27
Speaker 2: be a piece. I'm not really like versed in pieces
47:31
Speaker 2: that like in male pieces, even when Maxwell gets the
47:36
Speaker 2: like man weave and Nigeria and I'm like, Oh, that's amazing. Like,
47:38
Speaker 2: I don't know how they did that. I don't know
47:39
Speaker 2: how he's like picking it out seemingly the next day.
47:42
Speaker 2: Like that seems crazy.
47:43
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know.
47:44
Speaker 2: So I'm willing to be open to the theories for sure. Yeah.
47:49
Speaker 1: I talked about it with, so you have, you have
47:52
Speaker 1: two amazing, you have a lot of amazing assistants that
47:54
Speaker 1: I've like been to over the years, honey, but I
47:56
Speaker 1: was talking to Vanessa yesterday and so obviously in the show,
48:00
Speaker 1: it shows them that they seem to shave hair. And
48:04
Speaker 1: then what we think obviously feels like it happened is
48:07
Speaker 1: they use like maybe eyelash glue or something. Something like
48:10
Speaker 1: that to adhere that hair to the kind of like
48:13
Speaker 1: wig fabric that is like the, oh no, I forgot
48:18
Speaker 1: the name of that kind of wig where it has
48:21
Speaker 1: the- Not lace. Lace front. Yeah, you're right, lace front.
48:24
Speaker 1: okay you're right thank you um yeah like you know
48:26
Speaker 1: it's like they did that right and then like they
48:28
Speaker 1: glued the hair to that that and then they glued
48:30
Speaker 1: that to the head and then that's why it only
48:32
Speaker 1: had to last one night because like eyelashes and then
48:34
Speaker 1: of course yeah you know he wore that senator cap
48:37
Speaker 1: the entire time anyway you couldn't even see his hat
48:39
Speaker 1: his head.
48:39
Speaker 2: It was for her it was just for her so
48:42
Speaker 2: sweet and god you know it was for her and
48:46
Speaker 2: for god which yeah same thing is her same same same.
48:54
Speaker 1: They start with Mallory. Oh, go ahead. Oh no.
48:56
Speaker 2: I was just going to say, I love that you
48:57
Speaker 2: and Vanessa are like, I feel like you guys are
49:00
Speaker 2: eagle eye. Cause I'm like, I was just amazed. I
49:02
Speaker 2: wasn't even like able to like, I wasn't even able
49:05
Speaker 2: to make heads or tails of what they were doing.
49:07
Speaker 2: Cause I'm like, this is just incredible that you can
49:09
Speaker 2: do this.
49:10
Speaker 1: Yeah. Honey. I mean, you know, yeah, it's, it's real.
49:15
Speaker 1: I mean, the struggle is real. God bless.
49:18
Speaker 2: Literally.
49:18
Speaker 1: I mean, just kidding. I'm Asia bless.
49:20
Speaker 2: Okay.
49:20
Speaker 1: What if I just kept saying Asia bless? What if
49:21
Speaker 1: I was now the, if.
49:26
Speaker 2: Only Katie could have like an ounce of Asia's confidence,
49:29
Speaker 2: it like everything, it would balance them both out so
49:32
Speaker 2: perfectly where you'd be like, Oh yeah, just like take
49:34
Speaker 2: it down a notch here, put it up a notch there.
49:36
Speaker 2: Like all good.
49:38
Speaker 1: Asia does feel like the like the exactly the like
49:42
Speaker 1: like not the kryptonite it's like the thing that she
49:46
Speaker 1: does need you're right like she they do feel like
49:50
Speaker 1: they definitely asia has to like mentor her i mean
49:54
Speaker 1: then you'd be like well what do you want do
49:55
Speaker 1: you want katie to be a now like tongue speaking
49:58
Speaker 1: person it's like you know.
49:59
Speaker 2: It's hard kinda hey by the way kinda i would
50:02
Speaker 2: love it if katie started speaking in tongues i'd be
50:04
Speaker 2: like this is sick she's like.
50:09
Speaker 1: I am i have an oral fixation and if i'm
50:11
Speaker 1: not making out with someone i'm the vessel of god i.
50:15
Speaker 2: Must speak in tongues i must be using this tongue
50:18
Speaker 2: for some reason yeah yeah great anyway.
50:22
Speaker 1: Uh but with mallory and and of course rash we
50:26
Speaker 1: it's rachette you know god bless And we learned for
50:29
Speaker 1: some reason that he still doesn't trust Brandy. We're like, why?
50:32
Speaker 1: That motherfucker does not give a fuck about Mallory. We
50:35
Speaker 1: also low-key think that maybe he's dating Katie or whatever.
50:38
Speaker 1: And then Katie defends Mallory for having friends with benefits
50:45
Speaker 1: because Katie cannot even believe people would get mad at
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Speaker 1: her having that one guy she maybe made out with
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Speaker 1: a couple times before Rash was even in America. So
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Speaker 1: if you're going to be mad, at Mallory for that.
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Speaker 1: Like Katie can't even comprehend it. Oh yeah.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah. She sees the writing on the wall. She's like,
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Speaker 2: this is going to be bad for me. If, if
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Speaker 2: this goes over with everyone as being a bad thing,
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Speaker 2: I'm screwed. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Because she starts to pipe up real fast. They go
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Speaker 1: to them and they're like, okay, Katie and Josh. And
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Speaker 1: they're like, Josh, you know, has she been faithful? And, um, she, she,
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Speaker 1: she tries to say, yes, she was, except that no,
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Speaker 1: she wasn't. There's a incident we'll talk about. where she
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Speaker 1: made out with four people, and he says that he
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Speaker 1: feels disappointed by that. And as much as I feel
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Speaker 1: like America and Reddit wants to take Katie to task
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Speaker 1: for how she behaves, there's another flip side where people
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Speaker 1: desperately want to understand why Josh allows it, continues it,
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Speaker 1: what the fuck he's doing there, you know, like, and
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Speaker 1: so both things kind of happen in real time where
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Speaker 1: people are like, girl, what also Josh boy, what, you know? Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and I do feel like I've heard possibly,
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Speaker 2: you know, like, yeah, maybe he does have some sort
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Speaker 2: of weird humiliation thing and like, okay, great. If that's
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Speaker 2: you guys, that's great. But if that were you guys,
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Speaker 2: I wish that you would be a little more, She
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Speaker 2: kind of sharper about it where like, she kind of
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Speaker 2: was like, listen, I love to be controlled. I'm into it.
52:22
Speaker 2: You guys might not get it, but like, I like it.
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Speaker 2: I kind of wish if that were the case. And again,
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Speaker 2: we just won't get any answers when it comes to
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Speaker 2: Katie and Josh, I feel. But if Josh were like
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Speaker 2: secretly into like a little humiliation kink, then I wish
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Speaker 2: he'd be like secretly guys. I'm like, I'm not mad
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Speaker 2: at it. Like she can, she's my, she's my wild,
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Speaker 2: my wild little girl. She can do whatever she wants.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I'm openly.
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Speaker 1: I like, listen, he, he listened to the same thing
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Speaker 1: with Katie. If Josh was like, you guys, um, I
52:48
Speaker 1: know this might be shocking, but if you look up
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Speaker 1: like common fetishes, it really probably goes like feet cuckold.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's like, you know, it's very common. And
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Speaker 1: there's something about having someone kiss everyone and come home
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Speaker 1: to me that I think hot.
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Speaker 2: I find it erotic.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.
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Speaker 2: Whatever. Good for you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But then I be, I don't know. It's like, he
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Speaker 2: also just, in some ways he just is kind of,
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Speaker 2: I don't even know what the right word is. He's
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Speaker 2: just kind of a little, he like, I feel like
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Speaker 2: he kind of likes to whine about it too. Maybe
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Speaker 2: like he likes to be like, I'm just disappointed. Like,
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Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, but it's like, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I it's, we are never going to get the answers
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Speaker 2: for why they are the way they are.
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Speaker 1: No, all we can do. And I have a still
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Speaker 1: of him watching her scene from the, actual season early on, um,
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Speaker 1: that we saw where she really doesn't think that with
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Speaker 1: her one, like we said, and we can talk about that,
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Speaker 1: but guess what? We have to move on to part
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Speaker 1: two because we have so much to say. Believe me.
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Speaker 1: Oh my God. My gosh. Can you believe it? Thank
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Speaker 1: you so much for listening to this part one, by
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Speaker 1: the way, just go ahead and like gear up because
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Speaker 1: we're going to immediately start part two. So go ahead
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Speaker 1: and download it when you can. At the same time.
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Speaker 1: I hope you guys have been having fun. I wish
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Speaker 1: you the absolute best. Wherever you are in life, God bless.
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Speaker 1: Aisha bless. Thanks so much for listening. Follow me at
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Speaker 1: I'll talk to you later.
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Speaker 2: Bye.