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Highlights for Curtis and Larry · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Well, the Yanks got wiped out by Tampa Bay, the Rays,
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  Speaker 1: last night. And even though I'm a tried-and-true Yankee fan, Larry,
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  Speaker 1: as I've been saying all along, Yankees really didn't deserve
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  Speaker 1: to win this series. You just watch Tampa perform the
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  Speaker 1: fundamentals on the baseball field. Good defense, good offense, helping
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  Speaker 1: one another. hitting the opposite way, hitting runs, punting, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the basic fundamentals of baseball. Good pitching, just a solid
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  Speaker 1: baseball team. They beat us through most of the season.
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  Speaker 1: And there were brief moments that the Yankees might have
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  Speaker 1: made a comeback, especially last night. I want to get
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  Speaker 1: your impression. When the go-to guy that Aaron Boone decided
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  Speaker 1: he's going to play second base, Volpe, and not the
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  Speaker 1: hotshot and the malcontent Chisholm. who will probably end up
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  Speaker 1: leaving the Yankees. He's a free agent. He might land
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  Speaker 1: with another team and be a 40-40 guy. He's got
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  Speaker 1: that much talent, 40 home runs, 40 stolen bases. But
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  Speaker 1: he just doesn't seem to gel, at least with Aaron Boone,
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  Speaker 1: who I think has to go. But that moment when
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  Speaker 1: Volpe hits that ball.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it set it up a little bit because they're
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  Speaker 2: down two. This is in the bottom of the sixth inning.
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  Speaker 2: They're down two. There's a man on base. So a
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  Speaker 2: home run– That would tie it up.
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  Speaker 3: No, he didn't.
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  Speaker 2: No, it didn't turn out to be a home run.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, did you hear the length of that
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  Speaker 2: home run? That was a big, huge, looping home run.
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  Speaker 2: I've never seen a call go on for that long. Maybe, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I could be out of here. And then about eight
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  Speaker 2: seconds later, it was out. But it turns out it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't out.
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  Speaker 4: On review. After review, we have spectator interference.
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  Speaker 5: Oh!
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  Speaker 2: So they, they ruled that he wouldn't have caught it.
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  Speaker 2: The center fielder would not have caught it. It still
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  Speaker 2: would have hit the wall. And so they gave the Yankees,
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  Speaker 2: they gave Volpe a double and that forced a run
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  Speaker 2: to score, but that didn't tie up the game. And tragically,
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  Speaker 2: the game ended at four to three when it was,
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  Speaker 2: Would have been 4-4 and who knows what could have happened.
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  Speaker 1: Correct. They would have had momentum. But in the last
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  Speaker 1: three innings, Yankees did nothing, you see. And they had
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  Speaker 1: the home crowd. You heard the home crowd. The last
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  Speaker 1: four years, going into Yankee Stadium when they were in
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  Speaker 1: do-or-die situations, they've never been able to take advantage of
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  Speaker 1: being the home team. So they have only themselves to blame.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I know you're a real, true Yankee fan
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  Speaker 2: because just like every baseball fan across the country that
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  Speaker 2: loves their team, they go into every one of these
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  Speaker 2: series with excitement.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, you know what?
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  Speaker 2: We're going to get them. We're going to go get
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  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay. And at the end of it, it's always, well,
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  Speaker 2: they don't do this well and they don't do this
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  Speaker 2: well and they don't do this well and they don't
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  Speaker 2: do this well. And that's the ride I watched you
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  Speaker 2: take over the last week.
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  Speaker 1: Although, yeah, I was saying that part of this tradition
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  Speaker 1: now of if it ain't a home run, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's it. They strike out or they ground out. It's
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  Speaker 1: a very boring game. You wait for the homers, the homers,
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  Speaker 1: the homers. And with Tampa, you don't. You get good
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  Speaker 1: old-fashioned fundamentals. Same time, Milwaukee Brewers beat the San Diego Padres.
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  Speaker 1: San Diego Padres had three boomers right in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of their lineup. Again, if it ain't a home run,
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  Speaker 1: they're not going to win. And I'd like to see
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  Speaker 1: both these teams get into the World Series so that
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  Speaker 1: Americans can once again see the way baseball is supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be played. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Because it's not just the Yankees. Most teams play that way.
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  Speaker 2: There's most teams that just go for the long ball.
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  Speaker 2: And again, you know why it is? It's because of
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  Speaker 2: those ridiculous analytics. They believe the analytics tell them that
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  Speaker 2: hitting home runs is better than manufacturing runs because it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't always work. But We've seen time and time again.
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  Speaker 2: You know how we go through this cycle all the time?
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  Speaker 2: We had Moneyball and Smallball, and they showed us that
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  Speaker 2: this can work, and then they go back to hitting
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  Speaker 2: home runs, and now they're going to come back again.
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  Speaker 1: Although when I saw what looked like a Volpe home
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  Speaker 1: run be called by the umpires after watching the videotape
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  Speaker 1: a double, it reminded me back to, oh, It was
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  Speaker 1: Jeter's first year. He was a rookie, a rookie phenom.
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  Speaker 1: Yankees hadn't been in a World Series in like almost
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  Speaker 1: 20 years. And then all of a sudden, it's the
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  Speaker 1: eighth inning. It's against the Baltimore Orioles, the final American
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  Speaker 1: League championship before the World Series. Yankees went on to
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  Speaker 1: win the World Series, first in a month of Sundays.
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  Speaker 1: And this guy, Tony Tarasco, who had been a Met,
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  Speaker 1: gets under the fly ball on the right field line.
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  Speaker 1: And the kid, Jeffrey Meyer, reaches down with his glove.
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  Speaker 1: He's only 12 years old and snatches the ball. The umpire,
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  Speaker 1: Rich Garcia, called it a home run. It was not
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  Speaker 1: a home run. It was fan interference, but they had
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  Speaker 1: no video replay. And the Yankees went on to win,
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  Speaker 1: went into extra innings. And then the next game, the
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore Orioles lost and the Yankees were in the World Series.
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  Speaker 1: But I was in the stands for that one. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the whole place went crazy. You could see. And Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Meyer became the star. He sold his glove for $ 23, 000.
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  Speaker 1: He went to Wesleyan College where he set a record
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  Speaker 1: for base hits, 189 hits in his scholastic season. He
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  Speaker 1: had pictures festooned all over his wall with Derek Jeter.
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  Speaker 1: It was all great. Great catch. Of course, Derek Jeter.
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  Speaker 2: Great catch.
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  Speaker 4: Without that, right?
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  Speaker 1: The Yankees might have lost that championship to the Orioles.
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  Speaker 1: And then the bigger one. which is the Cubs were
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  Speaker 1: hurting for a long time. They hadn't even seen a
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  Speaker 1: World Series, never mind been in a World Series. They're
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  Speaker 1: five outs away from getting into the World Series against
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  Speaker 1: the Marlins. They're at home, Wrigley Field. There's a fly
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  Speaker 1: ball hit down the left field line. It's in foul territory.
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  Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, Moses Alou is getting under.
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  Speaker 1: He's ready to jump into the stands to fetch it.
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  Speaker 1: But no, a Chicago Cubs fan, lifelong fan, he would
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  Speaker 1: say at every home game, Steve Bartman, remember?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's world famous. Bartman was world famous. They were
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  Speaker 2: going to tar and feather him in Chicago. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: that one is the most famous.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were up 3-0 at that time, but
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  Speaker 1: it caused the team to collapse. They lost that game 8-3,
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  Speaker 1: and then they went on to lose game 7 because
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  Speaker 1: of that. And that guy had to be in the
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  Speaker 1: witness protection program. But, you know, in 2016, when they
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  Speaker 1: finally beat their curse, the Chicago Cubs finally won a
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  Speaker 1: World Series. They did a very nice thing. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have expected this of them, especially if you know people
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  Speaker 1: in Chicago. You worked in Chicago. I love the people
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  Speaker 1: of Chicago. What are you talking about? Yeah, well, if
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  Speaker 1: you're a Cubs fan, you're pissed off at this guy.
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  Speaker 1: They presented Bartman with an official championship ring. in 2016
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  Speaker 1: that's so cool he remained loyal he didn't move out
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  Speaker 1: of town because let's face it they were showing up
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  Speaker 1: outside of his apartment with pitchforks yeah yeah he had
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  Speaker 1: to have around the clock police security it was that.
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  Speaker 2: Intense he was a celebrity he was on talk shows
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  Speaker 2: for a while everybody everybody wanted to talk to him
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  Speaker 2: but here's the question i want to ask because we
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  Speaker 2: have a disagreement about this yes that i watched the
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  Speaker 2: replay i just watched it again seconds ago That ball,
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  Speaker 2: had there not been fan interference, because he had his
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  Speaker 2: hands out over the wall, and it didn't hit his hands.
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  Speaker 2: It hit his arm. It is in his forearm, up
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  Speaker 2: near the elbows. Had he just let it go, it
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  Speaker 2: would have hit the top of the wall. Now, with
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  Speaker 2: the force of it going forward, you would think it
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  Speaker 2: would hit the top of the wall and then bounce
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  Speaker 2: into the stands. So my point is, it was a
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  Speaker 2: home run. It was going to be a home run.
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  Speaker 2: They made it a double because it was absolutely fan interference.
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  Speaker 2: There's no question it was fan interference. But what's ridiculous
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  Speaker 2: and what they didn't take into account, if it didn't
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  Speaker 2: hit his arms, it would have hit the top of
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  Speaker 2: the wall. Now, you could argue, and I think you
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  Speaker 2: did when we talked about this earlier, you could argue
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  Speaker 2: it would hit the top of the wall and bounce back.
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  Speaker 2: But I think 80% of the time it's going to
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  Speaker 2: hit that wall, a flat surface, and go forward. So
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  Speaker 2: I guess my point is the Yankees got robbed.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's put it to our listeners, some of whom
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  Speaker 1: were maybe watching it or watched it on the videotape,
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  Speaker 1: because that has become the lead story as they play
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  Speaker 1: it over and over and over again. Yankee fans basically
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  Speaker 1: want to take the shredded bat of Mike Piazza against
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  Speaker 1: Roger Clemens and impale themselves with that when they watch
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  Speaker 1: this over and over. By the way, later on, Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 1: suggested that Roger Clemens be given the United States Medal
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  Speaker 1: of Honor, the top citizen award, because he was being
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  Speaker 1: introduced by Roger Clemens yesterday in Texas. This guy is steroid. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to get all riled up about that.
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  Speaker 2: He really gets you. I got a feeling that Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump may listen just to see what you're upset that
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  Speaker 2: he said. Then he says something the next day just
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  Speaker 2: to get you going again. Well, the reason is even
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  Speaker 2: Roger Clemens was surprised. He goes, they won't even let
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  Speaker 2: me in the Hall of Fame. You want to give
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  Speaker 2: me the Medal of Honor? You should be recognized somehow.
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  Speaker 1: But I'd love to hear from our listeners if, in fact,
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  Speaker 1: they saw that possible home run the way Larry did
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  Speaker 1: or what I concur with the umpires, that it was
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  Speaker 1: a double.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Don't you take a part? Did you take part
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  Speaker 2: in this election process?
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  Speaker 1: I have no prejudice whatsoever.
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  Speaker 1: may not know who Lane Johnson is because offensive linemen
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  Speaker 1: aren't star players.
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  Speaker 2: They don't get.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of headlines or publicity. But Lane Johnson may
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  Speaker 3: be the best offensive lineman to ever play.
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  Speaker 4: And if he's not, he's at least in the conversation.
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  Speaker 2: When Lane Johnson played over 17 years, the Philadelphia Eagles
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  Speaker 2: won two out of every three games. Even in down years,
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  Speaker 2: they would win. And they would make the playoffs almost
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  Speaker 2: every year. And a lot of it was because of
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  Speaker 2: Lane Johnson. Some years would go by and he wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: give up a sack. Well, against the Rams, not this
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  Speaker 2: last weekend. Yeah, last weekend, he said he couldn't play
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  Speaker 2: for personal reasons. Now, a couple of years ago, he
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  Speaker 2: missed five games because of mental health problems. So everybody went, uh-oh.
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  Speaker 2: And now he has announced that he is retiring. And again,
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  Speaker 2: it's because of mental health reasons. And he says, I
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  Speaker 2: just have to take care of myself. So everybody was
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  Speaker 2: applauding him. Everybody was talking about what a great career.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody understood except apparently Stephen A.
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  Speaker 1: Smith.
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  Speaker 6: Four games in to the 20, to the 2026 season,
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  Speaker 6: a dude that has been in the league forever sits
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  Speaker 6: back and says, I need to focus on my mental health.
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  Speaker 2: He laughed at him at the end of that. Now
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  Speaker 2: he was sitting with four other people and you should
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  Speaker 2: have seen their faces.
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  Speaker 1: And they generally never give him a hard time because
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  Speaker 1: they know with Stephen A. Smith, your time today, Could
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  Speaker 1: be ended tomorrow being part of his colleagues.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. But man, they did not like what he
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  Speaker 2: was saying. And he went on for a long time,
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  Speaker 2: blasting Lane Johnson, accusing him of only quitting because the
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  Speaker 2: team wasn't playing well.
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  Speaker 6: There's no way.
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  Speaker 1: You're undefeated.
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  Speaker 6: You're winning football games. You're thriving. Everybody's got Super Bowl
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  Speaker 6: in their sights.
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  Speaker 1: You walk away.
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  Speaker 4: You walk away.
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  Speaker 7: Because it's a very, very, very bad situation. And it
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  Speaker 7: doesn't look to be getting any better. And this brother say, hey,
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  Speaker 7: my life matters.
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  Speaker 8: It's time.
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  Speaker 7: I'm going to call it quits. My mental health, my mental.
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  Speaker 4: Lord.
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  Speaker 7: That's trouble for the Philadelphia Eagles, and everybody in the
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  Speaker 7: city of brotherly love knows it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's a lie. That's an outright lie, because in
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  Speaker 2: Philadelphia right now, all everybody is doing is praising Lane Johnson,
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  Speaker 2: doing accolades to him, hoping he gets better. That was
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  Speaker 2: a lie. And Stephen A. Smith is from Philadelphia. He
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  Speaker 2: should know better than that. He owes an apology. He
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  Speaker 2: gave a half-hearted one last night. You need a full-throated apology.
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  Speaker 2: We don't need to hear that you had mental health problems, too.
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  Speaker 2: To tell you the truth, you're just trying to jump
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  Speaker 2: on his bandwagon at this point and get some sympathy.
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  Speaker 2: He had real mental health problems. He had to give
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  Speaker 2: up five games three years ago because of mental health problems.
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  Speaker 2: And he's been going across the country trying to help
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  Speaker 2: other people with mental health problems and other players.
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  Speaker 5: It feels like doom. You just want to run away
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  Speaker 5: and not come back kind of thing. It's a lot
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  Speaker 5: of Nausea, a lot of throwing up every day. You
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  Speaker 5: threw up every day from this?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: It got so bad. I was really starting to throw
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  Speaker 5: up blood. Nerves really have tremors in my hands. This
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  Speaker 5: is something I've dealt with for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: This is what happens when you're a shock jock and
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  Speaker 1: you're looking for clicks. As you said, Stephen A. Smith
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  Speaker 1: wrote for the Philadelphia Inquirer. He was the sports guy.
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  Speaker 1: He spent a lot of time in that town. He's
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of contacts. He knows better. This reminds
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  Speaker 1: me of when we were on the hunt to find
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  Speaker 1: Tom Kane Jr. Remember, he was missing in action. We
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  Speaker 1: were having some fun at his expense because nobody knew.
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  Speaker 1: And then when he finally had that press conference, you remember?
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  Speaker 1: And he finally revealed it was a mental health situation.
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  Speaker 1: Remember how both you and I were like, oh, and
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  Speaker 1: even his opponents and everybody said, yeah, that's a real
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  Speaker 1: problem in America. Now, should he have continued running? I
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  Speaker 1: say no, but that's a choice he made. And the
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  Speaker 1: voters will have to determine if he gets elected or unelected.
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  Speaker 1: But I remember the both of us were like, oh, man,
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  Speaker 1: how misjudged we were about his situation. It had nothing
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  Speaker 1: to do with his physical health. It was a mental
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  Speaker 1: health issue that Americans of all different backgrounds are going
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  Speaker 1: through now. to make really cast dispersions and make fun.
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  Speaker 1: And then a half hearted apology late at night where
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  Speaker 1: he suddenly he, Oh, you know, I had mental health issues.
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  Speaker 1: Come on guy. He should completely come clean and stop this.
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  Speaker 2: And he said people misunderstood what he said and he
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  Speaker 2: was never putting him down. That's not true. We heard it.
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  Speaker 2: There's a, there's tape of it. You absolutely made light of,
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  Speaker 2: of the fact that he had serious meant and still
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  Speaker 2: has serious mental health problems. And everybody, and the biggest
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  Speaker 2: lie he said was when he said, and everybody in
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  Speaker 2: Philadelphia knows it. And everybody, Philadelphia is not buying this.
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  Speaker 2: That's such BS. And he knows better. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what he was trying to do. I, I've, ascribe to
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  Speaker 2: what you said a moment ago that it was probably
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  Speaker 2: just this is his thing and this is for bites
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  Speaker 2: and he's going to get lots of views now on
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  Speaker 2: youtube but is that worth it is it worth it
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  Speaker 2: to make people feel small that have mental health problems
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  Speaker 2: across the country for your own personal gain for a
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  Speaker 2: few more clicks for a few more benjamins in your
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  Speaker 2: paycheck Is that worth it? Really, you have to. And look,
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  Speaker 2: I like Stephen A.
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  Speaker 5: Smith.
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  Speaker 2: Stephen A. Smith has always been very good to me.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I know him in Philadelphia. He's come through for me
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: a couple of times when nobody else would. So I
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: really appreciate him. But Stephen, you're wrong on this one.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: You were wrong, and I think you know you're wrong.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Curtis Lewa and Larry Minty.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: They're better together. On 710WOR.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: A lot more is leaking out from the Cornell University
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Jane Doe case. And the more that leaks out, the
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: worse it looks for the fraternity and the boys. A
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: lot of the testimony that they gave to the Cornell
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: University police is now making it out. And this is
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: the one that's getting played a lot. Because... If you
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: listen to this frat brother's answer, and he was not involved,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: but he saw what was going on. If you listen
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: to his answer, count how many times he uses the
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: word consensual. What people were saying was that there was
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: like multiple consenting adults in this room.
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: There is a consensual act that took place. And that's it's.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: That's really what the general rumor I was going around
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: was that it was a consensual thing.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was 20 seconds, and he said consensual three times.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: And of course, the investigator, and what we're seeing on
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: these tapes is that at first, the police at Cornell
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: University were slammed. They actually did a pretty good job.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: It was the university that didn't turn over all of
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: the information that to the authorities.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: I guess, how.
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: Do they know it was consensual? I mean, I can't
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: recall exactly what was said, but, yeah, I mean, they
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: said that they had sex with her, I guess.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy does not want, he wants to be
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: anywhere else but in that room with Higvini interrogated right now.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: At one point he said, okay, now, who did you
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: recognize in there? And he said, I was really drunk.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I don't remember anybody. And he goes, seriously, you're a
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: frat brother. You don't remember anyone else that was there?
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Who did you go with? I don't remember. So he said,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: you know, you could be in a lot of trouble.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Just from what you're saying right now, you could be
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: in a lot of trouble. Let me play one other thing,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: because for the first time, we are actually hearing from
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Jane Doe, although she has not been identified.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: I was prostituted, and I was held up like.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, I'm sorry.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: This is.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: This is something different. There is a tape of the
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: voice of Jane Doe. That's not what this is. This
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: is what Jane Doe, this is Aaron Katursky, who you've
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: heard on the air here many, many times. Since you can't,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: they're not allowing her voice to be heard unless it
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: is manipulated a little bit so you can't tell who
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: she is. And we have some of that. This is
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: what she told the investigators at Cornell University. And it's
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: much different than what you've heard elsewhere.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: I was prostituted and I was held up like bait
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: for a gaggle of men. She said, I remember a
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: dark room with shadows of men in and out constantly,
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: and I remember feeling like there was a joke and
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: I was not in on it. She ended her testimony
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: with a plea to her school. Please make it safer
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: for those I love and the community at large. Remove
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: those boys from campus.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: That is so much different than everything we were told
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: that she said to investigators, that she wasn't sure, that
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: she said it was okay in the beginning, but it
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: wasn't later. Now, and he is reading from the document
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: itself and watching the tapes himself, he is giving a
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: much different story. Every time this story takes a turn,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: it gets worse for the frat and for Cornell University.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling it's going to take a major
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: turn tomorrow and not because of what's happening at Cornell,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: but nearby in Syracuse, where the president of the United
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: States will be joining Bruce Blakeman on a campaign stop.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: As you know, he's already commented. on Tish James being
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the special prosecutor assigned by Kathy Hochul. More importantly, there's
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: now a filed legal petition on behalf of Jilio Lopez,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: one of seven, by his attorney to remove Tish James.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Replace her with a special prosecutor that would be appointed
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: by the governor who is free from actual or perceived
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: conflicts of interest or bias. And this is all based
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: on her initial, if you remember... the Facebook post she
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: made prior to her being appointed by the governor's special prosecutor.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I'm holding her in my heart and in my prayers
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: to her and to all survivors. You're not alone. We
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: stand with you. She's also running for reelection. She's in
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the middle of a campaign. I would suggest that for
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the good of all, she should recuse herself. We know
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: she won't. But that the governor should take an opportunity
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: here to have a come-to-Jesus meeting with her and say,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: we're going to appoint a special prosecutor. This should not
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: become a case about whether you're prejudiced or not prejudiced,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: because then it takes away. And you know, tomorrow, I
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: believe that Donald Trump, his hate, much of it merited
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: for Tish James, will boil over to the fact where
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: he's going to spend half of his time talking about
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: the Attorney General.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: He definitely will mention it. There's no question. It's not
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: going to be half. He's going to... He will make
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: mention of it somewhere. But we're getting now a taste
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: because all the attorneys are starting to come out, including
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: the attorneys for some of the frat brothers. We're getting
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: a taste now and a feeling for what is going
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: to happen at the trial when it comes up and
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: what the defense is going to be. And it sounds
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: like the defense is going to be everything was consensual.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Everything was consensual. She knew exactly what she was doing.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: She was very aware of what she was doing. She
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: voluntarily took drugs and she voluntarily took alcohol because that
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: plays in the New York state law. And so a
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: couple of the attorneys have come forward, including Andrew Miltenberg,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: who is a prominent defense attorney. You can tell whoever
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: this bro is, his parents have money.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: To him, her affect was such that she was coherent
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: and capable of making a decision. And she was an
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: active and engaged participant in their sexual encounter.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: There was so much legal speak in that sentence that
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: to him, it was consensual. And that may be all
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: that matters in the defense.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I think they're now trying the case in the
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: court of public opinion because they want to try to
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: get ahead of of all the leaks of what actually
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: was said to the initial investigators, first from Cornell University
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and maybe to the police department itself of Ithaca. But
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I got to tell you, I just know that amongst
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: the seven, there are conversations with the family that are
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: probably footing the bill for big legal expenses. Look, I'll
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: go to the attorney general. I'll speak to whatever ADA
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: is assigned to this from the state, and I'll say
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: you're going to be a cooperating witness because whoever is
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: the first to become the cooperating witness will go scot-free.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: You know, that's part of the deal. And then you
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: have to identify everybody who is in there, and if
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: you lie, you perjure yourself, you could go to jail.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I'll bet you they're having those conversations as we speak.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: And that may happen. My feeling is it's not going
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: to happen. And the reason I do is because... And look,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I know this is an unpopular thing to say, but
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: it's the absolute truth. And if there's an attorney out there,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: a defense attorney, I'd love for you to call in
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: as well and just say to me, yep, yep, that's
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: what's going to happen. There is a strong defense, and
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: you're hearing it now playing out. And the strong defense
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: is that in the mind of those men, it was consensual.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Everything she did made it seem like it was consensual.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: And then they're going to say, and this is going
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: to be the strongest part because of the ridiculous law
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: they have about voluntary intoxication in New York state. Then
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: they're going to say, and she was heavily intoxicated. She
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: was drinking so much when she was there. We, we
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: offered the ketamine, we told her what it was and
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: she took it voluntarily. So not only was she drunk
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: and she shouldn't even be able to remember many of
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: the things that happened, but early in the night, She
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: made it plain that, yes, she was willing.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what has already been acknowledged by all
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: parties is she was 10 shots up. That means even
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: before she came to the frat house, she had had
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: 10 shots of some kind of liquor, probably hard liquor.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: And then it was the ketamine was made available to
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: her at the frat party by the frat brothers, the
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: two who were with her initially, and then the invitation
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: for others to come. In fact, the main guy, the goofball,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I call him, the ringleader, was saying he was snorting
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: ketamine off of her stomach. You know, so again, the
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: big ramifications here are nationally. Other universities are beginning to
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: do a lot of soul searching about how they're handling
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: these kinds of cases. Because if I remember correctly, I
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: was saying about one out of every 10 undergraduates who
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: end up being either sexually harassed or sexually assaulted in
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: their four years of college. That's a hell of a lot.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. It's not even just in college. It's in
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: high school. It's at camp. It's in the workplace. I mean,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: there's way too much of this. And that's why Jane
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Doe was Me Too before. And it comes up and
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: it rises every 10 years. And I hope in 10
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: years we don't have to hear about this again. But
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: I think one of the good things that is going
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: to happen from this case, because you're going to hear
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: about this a lot as the case unfolds, is the
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: voluntary intoxication law finally is going to go away. And
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I would love to know who was fighting for that,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: because they've been trying to change that for a decade.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Who was saying, no, no, no, we can't. We can't
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: get rid of that law. If a person is intoxicated
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: beyond being able to say yes or no, it's their fault.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: It's not the person that's having sex with them fault.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: It's their fault. That's such a ridiculous law. And I
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: don't think anybody else in the country has it.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Larry, if you understand the culture of Albany and all
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: the sexual assaults and sexual harassment of legislators against females
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: and female interns, you know where that opposition is coming from.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: There's a term. Anything north, you know, these are legislators
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: who have to go up three days a week when
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: they're in session. Whatever happens north of Bear Mountain... stays
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: north of Bear Mountain.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: They should be ashamed.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: No more.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: They should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. That's the most
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: ridiculous law in the country.