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Episode 140: FPS DOC: The REVIEW! · WASD and Beyond

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  Hello everybody. Welcome back to our episode, the
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  WASD and Beyond Podcast. I'm your host, Nick, and always
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  accompanying me is Evan. Hello.
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  Very, very good. Before we get into the episode
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  this week, let's shout out our sponsors and the Spawn Camp.
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  gamers, builders, anybody who's into a hobby, any nerd, any
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  fucking buddy can join. Have a good time, enjoy
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  theirselves in a safe space that is always free.
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  Come watch movies, play video games, come do DND.
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  There are two sessions going on right now simultaneously with a
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  third on its way. Rotating cast of characters.
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  It is fucking brilliant. Shouts out Nick and Brody on
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  their campaigns. They I've listened into Brody's.
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  I've not in it yet but it was super awesome for his first
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  time. D Ming, Congrats Brody.
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  It's amazing and Nick always kills it.
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  So hop in. You want to play D&D?
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  Let's get a campaign started. I'm sure you'll find a group of
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  people. Oh yeah.
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  That's for sure. That's that.
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  That is that. That was smooth minus my
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  stumbling and my fumbling, cuz I have a problem sometimes, you
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  know? That was smooth minus the
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  mistakes. Very good.
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  Also happy belated birthday, Brody.
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  Happy belated birthday, Brody. Evan, Matt and myself went down
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  to Indiana this past weekend and we had a good time.
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  Yeah, I had a blast. You hit Matt with a golf ball.
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  Why did you have to bring that up?
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  Is the first thing that happened.
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  It's not like it was the. It was the first thing that
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  happened. It was the first major event of
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  the day. I didn't because that was the.
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  Funniest shit, because you defied well.
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  The last time I golfed, I was like 12.
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  Yeah, and you, I mean, you got, you got closed a couple times
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  hitting some people with golf balls.
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  I mean, yeah, it freaked me the fuck out.
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  Yeah, I mean, you did get it in the water twice.
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  Fuck that water, man. It skipped.
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  I was like, oh, to go, you know, just sunk.
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  I was like, man. You know what, though?
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  It was fun golf. I had a I had a blast.
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  I have been practicing my swing in the backyard every day since
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  we went. I was sore as shit after I woke
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  up and I'm like. Wow.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Because you're not really using those muscles a lot like that.
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  Gramp areas like the be the same way.
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  I guess so, yeah. You know, I like that feeling
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  though, Like, that's job well done, you know?
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  Yeah, but great. Great party, great party, great
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  time. The two hours there and back.
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  Great boat ride, yes? Great food.
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  Food was good, although a little too much. 1000 Island on that
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  burger, brother. I picked it up and I could feel
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  it sliding out between the buns. Did you get tots or fries?
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  I got tots. Tots were on point.
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  Yeah, they were paying, although I can now.
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  But how good they were. I kind of want to know how the
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  fries are. You know what?
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  I mean like, I know. So sounds like we got to make a
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  trip back down there. Oh man, it's going to take, it's
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  going to take a lot of effort for me to get my fat ass back in
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  the car for two hours like that. You you drive all day.
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  That's why. What makes you think I want to
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  drive more? Fair.
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  I'll do it. Hey, there you go.
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  OK, I'll drive with you next. Time I won't leave you like I
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  did this time. Not my fault.
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  Yeah, Matt will never listen to this.
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  Matt. Love you buddy.
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  Mountain news morning is not good for you.
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  It's not conducive. Reason you're not here anymore,
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  It's because you drink Mountain Dew in the morning.
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  But. You drink.
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  You drink a liter of Mountain Dew in the morning.
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  You freak me out when you do that.
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  Actually almost threw up just from me saying that.
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  Freaks me the fuck out, man. It really does.
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  It's bad. I was gonna ask what you've been
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  playing lately. That's what I was gonna ask you.
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  We. Haven't done that.
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  Guess I'm just gonna guess what I've been playing lately other
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  than Overwatch, because we play that together.
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  F1 No Golf A. Little bit, but only because
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  you've. Been playing counterstrike.
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  A decent bit. I've been playing well that Red
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  Dead 2 again. GTRPI think right.
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  I played a little bit of that honestly.
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  So that's that's honestly pretty fun and this is going to sound
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  contradictory. I don't like that basic things
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  to do in game. I have to talk to real people
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  for like like you can repair your car at like a pan spray
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  like how you couldn't like you know the normal game but it
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  like. Yells at you.
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  When you get to one of them and it's like there's a mechanic
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  live right now, go to them and it's like I I don't want to have
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  to have a fake conversation. I just want the car repaired.
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  Like it's the same thing where it's like he's going to role
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  play fixing my car and then he's going to be like, yeah, you
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  should also get some upgrades. He's going to up try and upsell
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  me. It's like I'm not falling for a
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  dude. I got 24K like I'm not spending
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  however much money just to. You're not doing any work.
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  Just clicking a couple of buttons that give me what I
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  need. Like I guess I should try that
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  and see if I say I want to upgrade.
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  And sorry if you hear background noise, that's my dad.
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  He's playing War Zone. Big Nils Gaming, but.
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  Like, you're not doing anything. You know what I mean?
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  So, like, I'm not. I don't want to have a
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  conversation with you about it. It it was fun in certain
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  respects. I did go to a pot shop and it
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  immediately as I got towards the entrance, a guy pulled his gun
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  out in front of seven other people, like surrounding him
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  almost. And he was like, what are you
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  just coming with me? Like trying to kidnap me for
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  ransom money, which is like, I just got here.
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  I have nothing to offer you. I just put a down payment on a
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  car, like I have nothing. And my dumb ass responded by
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  throwing my hands up. The six other people beside me
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  all drew guns. I looked like I looked like Alan
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  from the Barbie movie. Oh my God, what you just saw?
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  Which I just saw. And that is a review that's
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  going to happen because I'm gonna go see Barbie and what are
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  you seeing tomorrow, buddy? Oppenheimer, I'm so excited if
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  anybody has been listening to the show from last year to now.
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  You know my excitement for Oppenheimer.
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  I am brimming with excitement. I'm sweating with excitement.
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  I just can't wait. I'm going with my dad, my
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  brother, to the Michigan Science Center to see.
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  It. IMAX Dome Theater.
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  Honestly, I've never seen a movie in IMAX 70 millimeter
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  before, so I will definitely come back with a review of how
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  it looks. However, I think that most of my
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  friends won't believe me because I say everything's good when I
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  go to movies. Yeah, we we also do watch
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  different movies than a lot of other people.
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  Like, I'm also a huge horror buff, so like, but I can get
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  into things like The Green Knight and like just like really
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  dive deep into shit. And that's what I'm excited for
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  with Oppenheimer, you know? Yeah.
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  Yeah, no, I've. Deep dive.
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  So excited for that. But yeah, no, I've been playing
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  some GTARP, some Red Dead two. I've been playing a little bit
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  of golf, Overwatch with you and some of the other guys and
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  trying to get people to come back and play.
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  Six days in Fallujah, It has not worked out, audience.
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  We'll get back into it. That's a review that has to
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  happen as well. Nobody wants to to play it with
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  me anymore and they just updated it today too.
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  So if anybody, if anybody here is interested in 60s in
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  Fallujah, join the disc work because I have nobody else to
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  play it with. There you go there.
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  You go does I get people to join?
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  Absolutely. I've been playing.
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  I just started my friendly neighborhood.
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  Well yes you did. You were streaming that on the
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  spot Twitch. You should go check that out and
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  give us a follow. You should.
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  I enjoy it a lot. It's a really cool premise.
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  Check the game out. I believe it was made by two
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  people. Very nice.
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  It's fucking incredible. I've been playing Overwatch too
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  with you guys and I'm going to be getting into the Diablo for
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  season today. Very excited to start my new
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  campaign. Yeah, I heard some bad news
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  about that today. Yeah, I did too.
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  We're not going to talk about it right now, though.
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  It's fine. It's fine.
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  It's fine. He's hiding.
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  From the negativity he is. The real reason you guys are all
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  here is for the main topic of today's episode, which is our
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  review of FPS doc First Person Shooter.
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  Dude, I was waiting a very long time to see the movie.
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  And then Richard and David reached out to us was like, hey,
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  do you guys want to sign up for this and get into the early
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  screenings? I was like, yeah, absolutely.
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  So we got into the prescreening, which is the quote UN quote
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  rough cut. And then we got into the pretty
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  much finished screening, which there's a few things they had to
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  put into the movie or they were still just editing really quick.
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  It was they're both versions are basically the, the finalized
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  movie. So we've seen this movie
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  multiple Times Now. Yeah.
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  It is incredible. The movie is directed by David
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  Craddock and codirected by Chris Stratton and then written and
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  produced by Richard Moss. And it's a part of creator VC,
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  which is Robin Block, who is the director of In Search Darkness.
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  Like the definitive 80s horror movie documentary series.
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  Great stuff, Great fucking stuff.
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  So with like. All of that in mind.
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  When I saw this project be announced on Twitter and I saw
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  the, what's it called, The fucking Kickstarter, that's when
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  we got in, WASD did. I was like, holy shit, that's a
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  really good cast of people that you want to create a movie this
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  deep, right? And it delivers, man, I mean.
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  We'll start with the guests, right?
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  Like, let's just get the guests out of the way.
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  I mean, you got fucking John Carmack, John Romero, Adrian
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  Carmack, Tom Hall, Sandy Peterson, American McGee, Cliff
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  Blazinski. It it just Warren Specter.
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  The list goes on and on and on of legendary people in the early
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  days and current days of FPS. And it is amazing to hear their
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  stories. It is so incredible to see how
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  these games came to be. Why they came to be and all the
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  iterations of them that were around and what they almost
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  were, it was it was fucking incredible.
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  This is a movie that it was. It felt like it was made for me.
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  I I'm watching it. I felt it was made for you.
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  I was like, this is. I was like, Oh my God, this is
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  stuff Nick likes. This is stuff Nick likes, This
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  is stuff that Nick is going to explode over.
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  Yes, very violently. So and.
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  I gotta say, coming from the complete opposite side of the
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  fence of never played them, never was told to play them,
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  really. Like I was never forced.
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  I was too young, you know, like I I just wasn't around for it.
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  So it was really cool to see. The story behind some of these
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  games and how they came to be and what I play now was
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  influenced by them way back in the day.
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  At this point now I feel like with certain games they become
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  so popular. Like the things that they
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  pioneered have become so popular that you don't notice it now.
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  Like you don't see it and immediately think of maybe them
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  right away if you didn't play them.
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  So like in a way that's what's cool is to go and say like,
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  well, this thing reminded me of this game I played in reality.
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  That game got it from these games.
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  If that sounds really convoluted, but like.
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  That's interesting to learn about.
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  I mean it's it's history. I mean, people just don't assume
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  or they don't think of history the same way.
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  Maybe for video games, because it's not as historical in a
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  sense, right? I mean, we've had movies for
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  over 100 years now, technically. So this is kind of an
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  interesting thing where it's like, yeah, we've had video
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  games since like what, the early 60s or 70s or something like
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  that. But like, you still think now
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  it's still, it's still too new because they're only getting
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  better every year by like in crazy amounts sometimes.
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  But no. So, like, it was awesome to see
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  the original people who created Doom and Quake.
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  And I was thinking of another one I just.
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  Wolfenstein Marathon. Halo.
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  Like, I mean fucking. Even Jurassic Park trespasser.
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  Halflife. Like all of these things that
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  really feed. And it's cool to see Duke
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  Newcomb. Can't forget him Fucking, I
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  mean. Scott Miller.
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  That's a person. Yeah, dude.
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  Like, how can I not have him in the fucking list?
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  He if you if you didn't know we interviewed Scott Miller, please
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  check out that interview. He is incredible.
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  And he's also incredible in this movie.
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  System shock. Jesus fucking Christ, dude.
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  Like all everything that I fucking grew up with is here and
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  it's just fucking amazing. But it's cool to the story.
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  It weaves, man, like. One game goes off, another off
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  another, and therefore this was created.
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  And because of this technology they were able to do this.
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  But then another company found this technology on top of that
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  technology and created this and it's like, what the fuck man, It
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  was like the Wild West back of the days of development.
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  It's just interesting. Everything was also just done
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  right like it either like. It either worked or it didn't
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  back then too, right. So it's also crazy to see how
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  different it was to what we get now, which is now we're getting
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  like unreleased games for full price while we help test it.
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  And and it's cool to see. Like, yeah, it's like 6.
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  It's like between 5:00 to 20, maybe 30 people that create
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  something like Doom or Quake. And you just, you got it And
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  that was it. There was no hash coming later.
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  It was like if something didn't work, it was either intended or
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  it wasn't seen. Like that's how it was.
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  And you know, I mean, so that alone is is kind of cool.
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  I only kind of grew up with those types of games really
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  early in life, but too young to understand what that was.
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  So like you get to see how that worked where you had no DLC, you
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  had no season pass, you had no battle pass, right?
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  You just, you got Doom and you played Doom and you finished
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  Doom and then you were done. Then you came.
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  Back, Yeah. Then you waited for maybe
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  another game. You didn't know if you were
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  getting, like, like movies. You just had no idea if there
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  was going to be another Star Wars.
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  You just knew there was one dude.
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  But yeah, that's incredible to me, like.
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  Fucking incredible. Let's go back to it, please.
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  I would prefer because now we have really cool tech.
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  So I'd love to get a game that just works on release, just
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  because it'd be like whoa, like this is.
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  It's so cool. But yeah, no, I I loved it.
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  I I agree with Nick. The story that it weaves is
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  really cool. I like how it builds upon each
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  game as you go. So you kind of get a fuller
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  picture as time goes on instead of just these like like almost
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  like a puzzle. It's like this is almost like a
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  path being laid down in front of you.
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  Here's the next one. Here's the next one.
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  Okay. But this leads to this path.
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  And you know, there are some detours along the way for good
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  reason. They did talk about the Unreal
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  Engine a bit, which I liked, you know, just how that came to be
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  as well. And.
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  And everything. So yeah, no, I I was thoroughly
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  enjoying the interviews, the story of it.
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  I mean, it's so it's just cool. I don't know.
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  I'm a nerd, though. I I like, you know, for a reason
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  like. Well, the cool thing to me is
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  not only that everything Jang good on each other, right?
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  And like, it felt like everything was falling into
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  peace in the place, just perfectly.
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  It's how it did it. Everything had a rhyme or reason
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  to it. Right.
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  Like it wasn't like, here's Doom, here's now Call of Duty.
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  It was here's this and then this and then this and then this.
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  Like it. It, like you said, the path it
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  takes was very deliberate and very, very like strategic,
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  almost right. Like it was like, okay, what?
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  I mean, we'll get into the runtime.
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  We'll get into like all of that here in a minute, but.
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  It all felt deliberate and I loved that so fucking much.
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  Because it could have been a mess.
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  Like a documentary with this scale could have been a mess
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  where it's like, OK, fuck, like there's so much to talk about
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  here and there are games they leave out.
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  But that, I mean for time. And they couldn't get to it all.
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  Clarity's sake, yeah. Yeah.
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  No. And that's the thing too, right?
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  Our interview with them, we've heard how much they wanted to go
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  back and explore everything. It's just you.
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  To make it enjoyable and interesting for an audience, you
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  can't just include everything because that's only going to fit
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  for such a small group of people that really care about it,
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  right. Like, it'll fit you.
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  You'll watch it, right? But like somebody who maybe
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  doesn't know as much myself, I don't know if I would.
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  Right. But because you kept me engaged
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  throughout the entire thing, that's why I like it, right?
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  I'm I'm. I'm not being just kind of
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  brought here. Back up top, left, right.
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  Yeah, I know I'm being brought. On a specific path to get to the
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  end, you're trying to make a point, right?
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  So like Nick said, they don't go from, hey, here's Doom with what
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  it had as technology. Let's jump to Battlefield 3 from
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  2011, and then we're going to go back to Wolfenstein 3D and then
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  we're going to go, you know, to Halo Infinite.
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  It's like you just, you know that's not going to, you're
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  going to get jumbled up because you'll be like, wow, how does
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  Doom relate to Battlefield? Right.
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  If they were to do that, but the?
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  Cool, they did. Fucking yeah, exactly.
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  They fucking didn't. And they fucking.
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  They dug their feet in and they just went for it.
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  And I think a movie, I've said this before because we're going
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  to get, like, we're going to get all the love for it and like our
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  opinions out of of the movie, out of the way right now like
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  that. I feel like that's proper.
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  Get this out of the way. Then we'll talk about the the
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  nittygritty and give it our give it our rating.
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  I feel like a movie like this is important, especially nowadays
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  more than ever, right? Like nowadays a lot of people,
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  like we see all these games come out and like you said, they're
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  all unreleased. But a movie like this can really
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  shine light to everybody. Like, hey, this isn't how it's
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  always been like you didn't. It wasn't always like this.
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  This movie is important, like you to really not even just for
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  gamers, but for like upcoming developers, upcoming fucking
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  indie studios. Who are going to create the next
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  doom? Create the next half life?
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  Maybe this is what you want to see.
• 20:23
  You want to see this. It's a good case study.
• 20:26
  It wasn't a huge corporation that made Doom.
• 20:29
  It was 20 guys. I don't know.
• 20:31
  This was a number. You might.
• 20:32
  But it was a small team. It was a very small team.
• 20:34
  Small team like and I honestly agree with what you said there
• 20:38
  about how it's influential not just to people who enjoyed the
• 20:40
  product at like the end product and that's all we are, we're
• 20:43
  just the consumer, but. It it influences and it inspires
• 20:47
  younger people who want to do this for a living, right.
• 20:50
  I mean people just didn't wake up and decide I want to make
• 20:53
  movies. They got inspired by somebody
• 20:55
  because they're they're art. And just like games are, you
• 20:58
  know, so you're influencing. Yeah, I I have some ideas for a
• 21:03
  game, but I can't make it now. I don't have the money, I don't
• 21:05
  have the team, I don't have the resources blah blah blah.
• 21:08
  And then you see something like do more quick where it's like
• 21:09
  cause a small team of people, right.
• 21:11
  They just. They just did it.
• 21:13
  They just did it. Like they just decided to do it
• 21:15
  and then they ended up doing it right, which is, you know, kind
• 21:18
  of contradictory to where people.
• 21:19
  I just said people don't just wake up, but like they they said
• 21:22
  the same thing. We have an idea, let's do it.
• 21:25
  Let's pull our our, you know, let's put our heads together and
• 21:27
  let's figure this out. So.
• 21:29
  We would look at the FPS doc team.
• 21:32
  Yeah, this is something they. Wanted to do this.
• 21:35
  Wasn't Warner Brothers? No, dude, this is this is a very
• 21:38
  small, dedicated team of people. By the way, I will say that we
• 21:43
  are not getting paid by FPS documentary.
• 21:46
  We're we, we are fans and we want to be as a part of it as we
• 21:52
  can to be on the journey with them because this is something I
• 21:55
  am passionate about and Evan is well in this podcast, supports
• 21:59
  them and everything they fucking do.
• 22:01
  I just wanted to get that out of the way right now.
• 22:03
  But like look at them man. They just, they wanted to do
• 22:06
  this. They fucking did it.
• 22:09
  It's David's first first directorial debut.
• 22:13
  I think it's absolutely that's contradictory Directorial debut
• 22:16
  is the first, but yeah, it's his first movie like it's his first
• 22:20
  directing role. So and I mean it's great like we
• 22:23
  told him that in the interview, he did a fantastic job.
• 22:25
  Like I I wouldn't have known that he was like this was his
• 22:30
  first time doing this unless I, you know, since you had told me,
• 22:34
  right so. Yeah, and I'm unsure if Richard
• 22:36
  ever did a movie or anything because they're both authors.
• 22:38
  You guys should check out their books.
• 22:40
  Please check out their books. They're awesome, awesome fucking
• 22:43
  books that they've done. But like the entire team, man.
• 22:46
  Like Richard, David, Chris, like Robin Block for believing them
• 22:50
  and like helping them and just pushing along with them.
• 22:55
  It's a good story. Like from how this movie itself
• 23:01
  and how they did it is a good story.
• 23:03
  What You can check our podcast out to hear about it and they've
• 23:06
  done other interviews, check out the other podcasts they've been
• 23:08
  on. But the developers and it's just
• 23:13
  incredible and I can't recommend this movie enough to people.
• 23:17
  I really fucking can't. And yeah, that that's the love
• 23:21
  I'm getting out of the way before we get in nitty gritty.
• 23:23
  Yeah, I mean, I agree with with Nick Tenfold.
• 23:27
  It's just it's great. It's great if you're younger and
• 23:29
  you've never played these games and you've only heard of them.
• 23:31
  It's great if you were around for them and you played them and
• 23:34
  they influenced you. And in some way or another, the
• 23:37
  way they've influenced Nick or they were just fun games to play
• 23:40
  back in the day. You know, like a nostalgia
• 23:42
  thing. It is.
• 23:43
  Important to have this for yourself to go back to that sort
• 23:47
  of trip of you know, down memory lane.
• 23:49
  But also it's a document that shows hey, this is what was the
• 23:53
  first like FPS considered, You know, this is how they made
• 23:57
  Doom, this is how the Wolfenstein guys improved on
• 24:00
  DOOM, this is how the Quake guys improved on Wolfenstein and Doom
• 24:04
  and you know it it like we said earlier, it's Jenga building
• 24:07
  blocks up to the top. So it is entirely that so.
• 24:12
  You know, I, I give it all my praise, all my love.
• 24:16
  I enjoyed it so much. But yeah, that's the end.
• 24:18
  I think of our love affair with it now.
• 24:21
  We got to get into the serious stuff.
• 24:23
  So the movie does have a very, very, very steep runtime of
• 24:30
  about four hours and some change.
• 24:32
  Yeah, boy. Let's do it long movie People
• 24:35
  unite. But the cool thing?
• 24:38
  Yes, I, I, I I watched it in two sittings.
• 24:42
  And I almost got through in one, but I like was like, I really do
• 24:45
  do at bed. But the way that they're
• 24:47
  explaining how when you actually get the film is how it's going
• 24:51
  to be, Dude, you could watch us in chunks.
• 24:55
  You could watch us by the game that you want to like, learn
• 25:00
  more about like there's a lot. Don't be discouraged by the
• 25:03
  runtime, I will say because it does keep you very engaged and
• 25:07
  you can watch us in parts. And I almost highly recommend
• 25:10
  you do watch in parts. Right.
• 25:14
  Yeah, it's it's almost built for that in a way.
• 25:16
  You know, it's, I mean it is like by design, we asked them
• 25:21
  about that. But like that's the nice thing
• 25:26
  about it is that it's also not necessarily told to you, right.
• 25:30
  It's you're not told to watch it in multiple settings.
• 25:32
  You can watch it in one, but then it's like you come to find
• 25:35
  out, Oh no, it's actually. Kind of made in a way to break
• 25:38
  this up like I'm not meant to. I don't have to watch it, and
• 25:41
  they kind of accounted for that without having to tell me.
• 25:44
  You could tell by the arrows they cover.
• 25:46
  Yeah, right. And there's always like that.
• 25:48
  When they do the transition from one game to another, it's like,
• 25:50
  OK, there's you go. There you go.
• 25:52
  Pause right there. There you go.
• 25:54
  Perfect. Exactly which Nick loves that
• 25:57
  screen, by the way, I'm sure you.
• 25:59
  Want to get into that? Do you want to talk about that
• 26:01
  that's that seems to be one of your favorite things about it.
• 26:03
  So, so I'll let you do that. Not only is the document the
• 26:08
  documentary style, this movie done in such a way, for gamers
• 26:12
  especially, I think it's it's flashy, but it's not too flashy.
• 26:17
  It is just amazing. The intro of the film is such a
• 26:21
  fucking ass beater too. It is a fucking ass beater of an
• 26:24
  intro. It's amazing.
• 26:28
  But the way that they go about transitions is really cool cuz
• 26:32
  like, they show the box art of the game and it zooms right into
• 26:36
  an interview like a really, but like in a very stylized awesome
• 26:40
  way. And that's again how what we
• 26:42
  were saying, like with the runtime, you could break us up
• 26:44
  cuz it's like okay Doom is done. And then it's like it goes into
• 26:48
  this huge fucking like plethora of like game art.
• 26:52
  The covers of the box are like the.
• 26:54
  Box are. And then it zooms into one.
• 26:56
  You're like, I could definitely pause on Marathon now and I
• 26:59
  could hear all about Marathon or Halo or whatever.
• 27:02
  And it's that was done in a way where if it hadn't been done
• 27:06
  like that, it could have been really messy and confusing.
• 27:09
  But they they just stuck again. They stuck to their guns and
• 27:13
  they did it this way and I'm fucking so happy that it.
• 27:17
  Which I think works very well for a video game documentary
• 27:20
  because you have so many. Like it's not, it's you're not
• 27:23
  covering a historical event, right?
• 27:25
  You know you're not covering a certain day or a certain set of
• 27:27
  days like and even then in that regard, right.
• 27:30
  You can break it up for something like that.
• 27:32
  But if you're talking, but you also have to think of how
• 27:35
  different that scale is. Whereas like these games,
• 27:38
  realistically you can only talk about certain in terms of a
• 27:41
  documentary, you probably can't talk about Doom for an entire 4
• 27:45
  hours if you're covering all these different FPS's, right?
• 27:48
  You got to condense that insane story to. 10 to 20 minutes?
• 27:53
  Maybe. Maybe even shorter, depending.
• 27:55
  Even David will tell you, though, they spent a lot of time
• 27:57
  with Doom. Yeah, absolutely.
• 27:59
  Oh absolutely. You can tell but like, but
• 28:01
  that's the thing, right? You know, you have to account
• 28:03
  for that, which I think makes that transition work so well
• 28:06
  because it's you just you knowing going into it.
• 28:09
  If you're a gamer, you only semi know about FPS's and stuff.
• 28:13
  You know there's a lot of them, so you know they can't possibly
• 28:16
  spend too much time on one. So it really works to kind of
• 28:19
  transition. That way.
• 28:21
  And yeah, like, it's perfect for if you want to pause because
• 28:23
  yeah, it's like, okay, I wrote down all the stuff I know about
• 28:26
  Doom, if you're taking notes, right?
• 28:28
  And then now you go, oh, I'm pausing because now they're
• 28:30
  going to talk about Quake. And so now I can get another
• 28:32
  sheet of paper or whatever, right?
• 28:34
  So I I love that. That.
• 28:36
  And I like that. It's subtle.
• 28:38
  You're not being told to watch it in chunks.
• 28:40
  It's just like, hey, if you do decide that you want to go by
• 28:44
  game, we've thought of that for you.
• 28:46
  Which is exactly how it should be.
• 28:48
  You know you've accounted for something the audience might
• 28:50
  want to do. I think one of my favorite
• 28:53
  things that I did during the film, like just out loud, I
• 28:57
  would blurt when I was watching it.
• 28:59
  Every time it would go to a different game or get ready.
• 29:01
  So I'd be like, it's gonna be this, it's gonna be this, it's
• 29:03
  gonna be this. And then it would I was just
• 29:06
  like, I would just like freak out.
• 29:09
  Like, it's going to go to Quake. It's going to go to fucking
• 29:11
  Quake. And then it would go to like, it
• 29:12
  would like zoom in on the Quake art.
• 29:13
  I'm like, God, motherfucker, I do it.
• 29:15
  Like, were you? Were you like Rick Dalton and
• 29:17
  the Once Upon A Time meme where he sits up and he snaps his
• 29:20
  fingers? Dude.
• 29:22
  Dude, that's exactly. But that's exactly how I was.
• 29:25
  But it was such like an awesome feeling knowing if you know the
• 29:29
  stories of these games and you know, like the timelines like to
• 29:33
  be like, I know what they're about to do.
• 29:35
  I know what they're about to get into like.
• 29:37
  But the the cool thing was not knowing too because like they
• 29:40
  talk about Jurassic Park Trespasser which is a game.
• 29:42
  If you don't know which I know about Jurassic Park Trespasser
• 29:46
  if you don't know about it you you learn like all the some of
• 29:51
  like the technology we use in games now even if this game was
• 29:56
  a flop they still use and it helped pioneer ship for like
• 30:00
  half life and Gabe Newell was so impressed and like all this shit
• 30:04
  like I was like what the the. Trespasser, yeah.
• 30:07
  Yeah, like, I didn't know that. Like, I was like, what the fuck?
• 30:11
  It like just blew my mind, man. But yeah, I was like, God damn,
• 30:16
  it was just, it was just really cool shit.
• 30:18
  I still were to stop, like just giving it all of our love.
• 30:21
  But like, I just. It's like we can't really.
• 30:23
  Stop. It just fucking can't, man.
• 30:27
  Oh yeah, you know, you go. Were you going to talk about the
• 30:31
  transitions or anything or are you moving?
• 30:33
  On no, no, I think you I think you covered those quite well.
• 30:35
  I think that just. I I don't mind the four and a
• 30:39
  half hour runtime, right. I think, I mean, I kind of got
• 30:41
  that out of the way with my comment earlier, but I think
• 30:43
  that's if you can't call yourself a definitive
• 30:46
  documentary on something and have it be like an hour and a
• 30:48
  half. Like I don't know how they would
• 30:50
  have if if that would have been the runtime.
• 30:52
  I was like, what is this about to be?
• 30:53
  Because like you're not going to be able to get.
• 30:55
  Through it all you got time for like Doom, Quake, Wolfenstein
• 30:58
  and Halo and Halflife. Maybe like.
• 31:02
  You like never a lot of time. We're done.
• 31:05
  Yeah, right. I like that and I like that it.
• 31:10
  It covers everything or not. It covers a wide range, a very,
• 31:16
  very wide net of things. It does spend a little bit more
• 31:19
  time in the early or mid to late 90s, early 90s, early 2000s of
• 31:24
  video games, which is certainly I think important because you
• 31:27
  are focusing on the beginnings of it in a in a major way.
• 31:30
  But they do cover. Your Call of Duty, your Halo,
• 31:33
  your Battlefield up to a little bit more modern day shooters and
• 31:37
  stuff like that. So if you're more into those
• 31:39
  games like I am for instance, it's not like you're left
• 31:42
  behind. Like there's there's certainly
• 31:44
  coverage on it there, which is really cool to see and there's a
• 31:46
  lot of talk about game development obviously, right?
• 31:49
  I mean it's about video games. You're going to know a bit more
• 31:53
  about the development process, but that's really cool for me to
• 31:55
  see. So you can see how they what
• 31:57
  their process was back in the day and how it kind of changed
• 32:00
  over time. And kind of infer how it is now,
• 32:05
  I mean, which is to me personally not good, you have
• 32:11
  smaller studios making better games than the bigger studios
• 32:16
  kind of paralleling some streaming services nowadays.
• 32:23
  So like you have that, which is really cool and I.
• 32:27
  One of the big things about it, and this kind of falls under our
• 32:29
  opinions of it, plus I think something that's kind of not
• 32:32
  nittygritty, but something about it, is that how every interview
• 32:37
  to me it seemed like every interview with them, they
• 32:40
  brought up or mentioned how some other thing influenced them.
• 32:42
  Which I think is really cool to see.
• 32:44
  Like it's not just people thinking of random things in
• 32:49
  their own boardrooms or their own conference rooms and then
• 32:51
  going out and doing it. It's like, well, they did that.
• 32:54
  How do we do that better or how do we do that differently or how
• 32:56
  do we, you know, like they saw what was it?
• 32:58
  They were all fucking friends. They weren't necessarily all
• 33:02
  over each other in terms of I gotta crush that guy.
• 33:04
  They're like, Oh my God, you did something cool from what we did.
• 33:07
  Like, they're they're almost honored.
• 33:08
  They're honored and flattered. Check out your demo, man.
• 33:11
  Until they get to Halflife and they're like, yeah, we were
• 33:14
  going to release this game and then we saw we got, we all got
• 33:16
  the demo of Halflife and we were like.
• 33:20
  We can't do this, which is like totally something that can.
• 33:23
  That can happen. But like, even then, right?
• 33:25
  It's not like they were sitting there immediately sting about
• 33:27
  how they could get some sort of piece of the pie.
• 33:29
  They were just like, Oh yeah, probably not a good idea.
• 33:30
  They're like, how the fuck did this?
• 33:32
  How did, how did they do that? Like that, yeah.
• 33:35
  But then that's the question, right?
• 33:36
  How do they do that? I want to do that.
• 33:38
  It's it's like learning skateboarding tricks or riding
• 33:41
  up like bike, You know, you're learning from your peers and the
• 33:45
  people around you and going like, well, no, I'm just.
• 33:47
  It's like the the 60s with the British music scene, right?
• 33:51
  Everybody was improving off of something else, like or taking
• 33:55
  something that somebody else didn't going well.
• 33:56
  I want to do that differently. But which is like really cool to
• 34:00
  see, except it's a nerdy version where we're shooting demons and
• 34:03
  like random aliens and shit instead of music, which is cool,
• 34:06
  you know, we everybody likes shooting some demons.
• 34:08
  But yeah, I really like that. That's a major part of it of
• 34:12
  it's not like regimented, almost like.
• 34:17
  It's not compartmentalized where this company did this thing
• 34:20
  without any influence or, you know, advice from another team.
• 34:23
  It's like a little community, which is really cool to see and
• 34:26
  you can also see how that changes as they get further into
• 34:29
  the future, not future, but further into modern day.
• 34:33
  In the timeline. Further down the timeline, yeah.
• 34:38
  How a lot of like the early days.
• 34:40
  They're like, pretty much like we have a fucking clue what
• 34:44
  we're doing. Yeah, there's a lot of that in
• 34:46
  the beginning, which is like, I had no idea what we had no idea
• 34:50
  we were just. Trying.
• 34:51
  And it was like, well, I'm glad you fucking did.
• 34:56
  The interviews were done masterfully, I think, and I
• 34:59
  liked how they all went. And like during one game they
• 35:02
  would, it would flash to like someone else from a different
• 35:06
  team or company or who made a different game going.
• 35:09
  Yeah, that shit was wild and it would just go right back in
• 35:12
  like. And it's not just the creators.
• 35:14
  Like you had the Angry Video Game Nerd, you had G Man on
• 35:18
  there and like the whole John Romero BFG thing where it's
• 35:22
  like, do you know what BFG stands for and just cuts John
• 35:24
  Mayer going big fucking gun. And I was like, he said the
• 35:28
  thing, it's like moments like that in the interviews that I
• 35:31
  really, really appreciate and it's it's just they were just
• 35:35
  masterfully done, man. It lightens it up a bit, right?
• 35:38
  It's comedic and it's nice to just kind of break away from.
• 35:41
  Necessarily all the talking for a second, you know, you laugh a
• 35:44
  bit. I I like that too.
• 35:45
  That was definitely a highlight. I do remember specifically,
• 35:48
  yeah, John Romero saying big fucking gun.
• 35:50
  But like I did like the cuts where you know, they're asking
• 35:53
  somebody a question that cuts to the, you know, another member
• 35:56
  reference and they said. Even kick from like night dive
• 35:59
  going. Yep.
• 36:01
  Yeah, you know that it was really cool to see that.
• 36:03
  It was cool to see how like, again, the camaraderie.
• 36:09
  Around it, right? You know, we're only trying to
• 36:11
  do better than each other in like a really healthy way.
• 36:15
  Like wasn't trying to crush the other person, wasn't trying to
• 36:18
  run him out of business. Just creative people doing what
• 36:22
  they do and and just taking, you know, almost like athletes,
• 36:25
  right? One athlete, you know, they do
• 36:27
  something really good. So now the other guy who thinks
• 36:29
  he's just as good or better is going to go and do the same
• 36:32
  thing, right? He's going to try and do it
• 36:33
  better. So it's the same thing.
• 36:35
  And that's really evident. I'd say through that era of the
• 36:40
  90s until like the early 2000s, right.
• 36:43
  I mean and sadly I think we've maybe it's not as obvious now
• 36:47
  but like or not as clear as like this documentary made it out to
• 36:51
  be for them. But like you don't really hear
• 36:54
  about that as much now. You don't hear about that sort
• 36:56
  of competition in the in a healthy way, right.
• 36:59
  Because everything we think of everything as companies and and
• 37:03
  how much money they're making or how much money they're losing
• 37:06
  and. You know, do they have a good
• 37:09
  season, the games coming out or something like that, But not
• 37:11
  because I I guess, I don't know, maybe I'm not making sense
• 37:14
  there. But you see what I'm saying?
• 37:15
  Like we just kind of think of everything now as it's just a
• 37:19
  monetary thing of yeah, that's not going to make a lot of money
• 37:21
  or that's going to cost way too much or something like that.
• 37:23
  It's you don't really hear about the competition between certain
• 37:27
  developers or more. And I'd say honestly, and I get
• 37:30
  this because I am a Naughty Dog fan, but I'd say he, Neil
• 37:33
  Dreckman's probably the most. Famous video game director slash
• 37:38
  president of a video game development company right now,
• 37:40
  and I think that's mostly due to the fact that the show came out.
• 37:43
  Like. So his name was all over
• 37:45
  everything and whatnot and but I mean he's been I think he's if
• 37:50
  anybody deserves it it's probably him.
• 37:51
  He did start working at the Mailroom and Naughty Dog and now
• 37:53
  he's the president. So it's you know certainly not
• 37:56
  like he just walked in and took the job but yeah no I I.
• 38:00
  I liked that. I'd love to see.
• 38:02
  Maybe if they do like another documentary about video games,
• 38:06
  kind of be cool to see him in it.
• 38:08
  But even though he has nothing to do with FBS game.
• 38:10
  I really hope they do another documentary, whether it be FPS,
• 38:13
  Doc, two or. Your sequel be TPS.
• 38:18
  Versus That'd be interesting. There's.
• 38:21
  War and everything in there. That'd be sweet.
• 38:22
  That would be cool, yeah. I'd love to see some some Gears
• 38:25
  of War stuff and and yeah, just, I mean maybe do like.
• 38:29
  The second FPS documentary includes third person is a DLC.
• 38:32
  That'd be sweet. I.
• 38:33
  Don't know. I'm just, I'm spitballing here,
• 38:34
  if you hired. Paul.
• 38:36
  Yeah. Come on, please.
• 38:37
  We hate our jumps. You don't hate yours.
• 38:40
  I hate mine. No, but you said it this on air.
• 38:43
  I love, I love, I love my job. But that's on recording, Doug.
• 38:47
  I know I haven't. Does not hate his job.
• 38:48
  I'm. In so much trouble.
• 38:50
  Your dad, if you listen to my son, doesn't hate his job.
• 38:54
  That's an idiot. He's gonna, he's gonna go.
• 38:56
  All right, let me see how you bad.
• 38:58
  You really hate it. He's gonna do some bad.
• 39:01
  He's gonna do some. Bad.
• 39:02
  He's gonna do some bad. Yeah, man, the movie is
• 39:07
  fantastic. You ready to give it?
• 39:08
  You ready to give it our rating? Yeah, I mean, we kind of already
• 39:12
  if you have, if you follow us on Instagram or Twitter, you
• 39:14
  already know, but you should go follow if you want to hear it
• 39:18
  early next time. I don't know.
• 39:18
  I'm trying to get people to go follow our stuff.
• 39:20
  Yeah, please just go to our go to our socials, please.
• 39:22
  It helps us out, All right? We give it a 10 out of 10.
• 39:27
  I'm giving it a 10 out of 10 fps.
• 39:30
  Stock gets a 10 out of 10 from us.
• 39:33
  It has to. It has to get a 10 out of 10.
• 39:35
  This movie was everything and more I wanted it to be.
• 39:38
  I think it's important for everybody who loves video games,
• 39:42
  whether you play FPS or not, to watch this.
• 39:46
  It's an important documentary to see why we have the games we
• 39:49
  have today and why those games are important that they do
• 39:53
  cover. Not again.
• 39:56
  Not only for gamers, but for future creators.
• 39:59
  Again, the next people who make the next Doom, the next half
• 40:02
  life, the the next Anything you you create, look back and go.
• 40:07
  There's my fucking like that is the block right there.
• 40:11
  That is like the fucking testament right there as to why
• 40:15
  I want to do this and how we should do this.
• 40:18
  This is what you can do with dedicated people, yeah.
• 40:21
  Exactly, exactly. Nick's absolutely right.
• 40:25
  I couldn't couldn't have said it better myself.
• 40:26
  Like it's just fantastic. I I've, I've watched a good bit
• 40:31
  of documentaries not necessarily about video games.
• 40:33
  So to see one that is covered so well and so we we didn't cover
• 40:39
  this and I'm going to add it in now because I think it's very
• 40:42
  important they didn't treat video games like they were some
• 40:45
  nerdy thing. Every documentary I've seen
• 40:48
  about video games that is made by people who have never played
• 40:52
  them, treat them exactly the way that you would expect they make
• 40:56
  it. There's tons of 8 bit music in
• 40:58
  there which no gamer likes except for the Nintendo fanboys,
• 41:01
  which is fine. You have your rights, you're you
• 41:04
  know, have your own opinion. You're wrong.
• 41:05
  It's terrible. It creates.
• 41:07
  David likes Nintendo. That's fine.
• 41:09
  Sorry David, but like that's. But David likes it because he
• 41:16
  likes it and he knows what it is like and I give him that
• 41:19
  respect. I believe that he likes it for a
• 41:21
  real reason other than like, yeah, all the nerds will like
• 41:23
  that music. Like it's it's you know the we
• 41:27
  brought it up in our interview. I talked about I think it was
• 41:29
  high score. That was the Netflix one and
• 41:32
  it's just you're talking. You said it.
• 41:35
  Nick said it best during our interview where he said and I
• 41:38
  agree with him, that Richard and and David they were talking.
• 41:44
  To us, not at us. They weren't talking down to us
• 41:47
  like, you're stupid and this is how games are made.
• 41:49
  This is like they were like, this is how they were made
• 41:51
  because you're a fan and you probably want to know this.
• 41:53
  Like the high score documentary did this, did that.
• 41:56
  It was just like, yeah, no, like we did it because of this and
• 41:59
  blah, blah blah blah. You're talking at me like, I
• 42:03
  don't know what games are or something like that.
• 42:06
  And maybe that's the case for people who have never played
• 42:08
  them before, But I feel like the people who have never played
• 42:10
  them before watching that are feeling like, well, why am I
• 42:11
  being talked to you? Like I'm stupid?
• 42:13
  Right, exactly. That's not what this does at
• 42:15
  all. Yeah, so, like, that's a very
• 42:18
  piece of high praise that I wanted to give it and make sure
• 42:20
  we didn't leave out. Is that it?
• 42:21
  It doesn't treat you like you're a moron who has no idea what
• 42:24
  video games are. It assumes that you know
• 42:26
  something about them which is totally right to you pick up
• 42:29
  quickly, right? You don't have to be an Uber
• 42:31
  nerd like Nick or myself about it, but if you know video games
• 42:34
  and you know Fps's and stuff. You're gonna be in for a great
• 42:37
  treat. And if you've just looked video
• 42:38
  games and like the history of, you're gonna be in for a great
• 42:40
  treat. So absolutely fucking lutely.
• 42:43
  We give it a 10 out of 10 for sure. 10 out of fucking 10 And
• 42:46
  if you want to still get a physical copy of this movie and
• 42:52
  your name in the title, go to fps.com and order yours right
• 42:58
  now. There's different tiers.
• 43:00
  You can get it. You'll be in the title right
• 43:02
  next to WAC and beyond. We are in the title of this
• 43:04
  movie, so do that. If you want to be a part of
• 43:09
  gaming history, get your copy before August 1st.
• 43:13
  That's when it's going down. This the last time?
• 43:16
  Get in while you can. I highly recommend it.
• 43:19
  I'm as soon as we get our big box in because we got the like
• 43:23
  the Doom Marine box. As soon as we get that in, we
• 43:26
  will be doing a unboxing and a review of it, cuz I'm very
• 43:30
  excited for that to be on my shelf.
• 43:33
  Yeah. Be a part of gaming history,
• 43:35
  support FPS doc, the first person shooter, the definitive
• 43:39
  story, right? They do that right?
• 43:41
  I did that right. The definitive FPS documentary.
• 43:45
  I fucked that up. What I've always I've always
• 43:47
  just called it FPS Doc. That's all I've ever.
• 43:50
  We had 42 and 30 seconds of gold.
• 43:54
  It's still fine. It's still fine.
• 43:55
  Got that? Got that?
• 43:56
  Got that? Got it, Got it.
• 43:57
  Cut it, got it. Please check them out.
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  Support, support, the entire team.
• 44:01
  Richard, David, everybody A part of it.
• 44:04
  Check out Robin Blocks films as well, please.
• 44:07
  Creator BC is his company or his studio.
• 44:11
  I I don't know really how he defines it, but FPS doc, 100%
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  check it out. That's it.
• 44:19
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• 44:20
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  have fun. Yes, yes, I'm a long winded bag
• 44:30
  of shit. All right guys, it what?
• 44:34
  It's funny. Yeah, it is, but it's not nice
• 44:37
  to yourself. Yeah, that's OK.
• 44:39
  Self deprecation is funny. Take it easy guys.
• 44:41
  We will see you next week with a surprise episode for Evan.
• 44:44
  I'm not going to tell him what it's about.
• 44:46
  He's going to go in blind. He's done this twice so far this
• 44:49
  year. You guys need to help.
• 44:50
  Each episode has been gold. Yes, absolutely.
• 44:55
  Thank you guys. See you guys next Friday.
• 44:58
  Till then, take it easy and be safe.
• 45:00
  Do you just try cutting me off during the outro?
• 45:02
  Are you? No, I said.
• 45:02
  See ya, I said. See ya.
• 45:04
  Have a good have a good week, everybody.
• 45:07
  Weekend. Take it easy guys.
• 45:11
  Bye. This is the WASD and Beyond
• 45:21
  podcast. Enemy spotted.