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Hour Three | Nick Underhill Talks Saints, Mountain Lions & LSU’s O-Line · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Off the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 2: Hands to Hester, and Hester, yep, got it, five out
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  Speaker 2: of five.
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  Speaker 1: From carrying each other to a natty to carrying each
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  Speaker 1: other on the air.
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  Speaker 2: Flynn is back to throw for the end zone goal.
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  Speaker 1: Live from the Raising Cane Studio, it's Off the Bench.
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  Speaker 3: I can't stand it. All right. Welcome back here off
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  Speaker 3: the bench. Allen number three on a Tuesday, Tuesday shows
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  Speaker 3: brought to you by community steel off in the raising
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  Speaker 3: canes studio. Well, it's Tuesday at nine. You know what
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  Speaker 3: time it is. It's time for Mr. Nick Underhill to
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  Speaker 3: join the show. Let's go ahead and bring him on. Nick,
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  Speaker 3: what's going on, my man.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, doing good, man.
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing fantastic. Doing fantastic. So close. So close this weekend, buddy. Um,
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  Speaker 3: it was a really good game. I thought they played
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  Speaker 3: really well. It seemed like the dome was rocking. Um,
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  Speaker 3: but what give us, go ahead and give us like
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  Speaker 3: just a brief takeaway from overall, just like from a
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  Speaker 3: broad perspective here on the game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man. Like if that game had ended at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the third quarter, I think we'd be talking
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  Speaker 2: about like, where does Chuck rank in, in accordance to
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  Speaker 2: like Brock party in the early MVP, the early MVP race, man.
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  Speaker 2: Like he, he, He played really well. I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was the best way they've started a game under Kellen Moore.
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  Speaker 2: First time they've ever had a lead at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the first quarter under Kellen Moore. First drive still
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  Speaker 2: wasn't good, but they found the way to start and
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  Speaker 2: they did not find the way to finish. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not worried about it yet, but I do think
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  Speaker 2: we're at the point, at least in this season, that
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  Speaker 2: there's been like a three-week trend where there's like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: two or three series every game where it just kind
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  Speaker 2: of feels like everything with the offense is like, like
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  Speaker 2: you bumped the 1.5 speed on your podcast player. And
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  Speaker 2: it's like just a little too sped up a little
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  Speaker 2: bit off. Like they got to find a way to
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  Speaker 2: avoid that. Like that's starting to become a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a troubling trend. Um, but man, I thought, I
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  Speaker 2: thought Kellen probably put together his, his best game plan.
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  Speaker 2: The run started working a little like, but yeah, they
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  Speaker 2: just can't play a four quarter game yet. And they
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  Speaker 2: got to figure that out.
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  Speaker 3: Um, That's like the last step too, Nick. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you know this. You've been covering ball for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: Like a team like that.
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  Speaker 4: That's trying to change their ways, one of the last
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  Speaker 4: things to get there is how to win games in
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  Speaker 4: different ways. They found a way to win the comeback game.
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  Speaker 4: After they failed the first game, they found a way
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  Speaker 4: the second game. Now it's how do you win a
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  Speaker 4: game when you've got the lead and you kind of
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  Speaker 4: have to churn some clock and you've got to keep
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  Speaker 4: possessions away from the other team. It feels like they
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  Speaker 4: haven't learned that yet. And when they do, it's going
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  Speaker 4: to be dangerous, but they haven't learned it yet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. I mean, man, really there was a
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  Speaker 2: stretch there. Like in the third quarter, they had that drive.
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  Speaker 2: I think at one point he was like eight for eight.
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  Speaker 2: Like they were, they were killing it and they looked incredible.
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  Speaker 2: And it is weird that it's like the inverse of
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  Speaker 2: every other game they've played. And yeah, it definitely is
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  Speaker 2: the last thing that they've learned because they, they have
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  Speaker 2: not had a single game under Callum where they've went
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  Speaker 2: start to finish and control the game. Like, and that
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  Speaker 2: would be a nice thing to see. Like just see
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  Speaker 2: them win a game where it's, where it's what you
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  Speaker 2: see is what you get. And, You just kind of
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  Speaker 2: don't know what to expect right now. But yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I thought they played pretty good. I went through it
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  Speaker 2: again and rewatched it. I felt more encouraged after the
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  Speaker 2: rewatch than discouraged, which I think is usually, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a good thing. A lot of times, like, you feel
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  Speaker 2: good about it and then you watch and you're like, ah,
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  Speaker 2: there's a few things I missed here. Like, there's a
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  Speaker 2: couple plays, you know, I think. It's too simplistic to
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  Speaker 2: put it on Austin Richards, but I think if Calvin
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  Speaker 2: Banks is playing, maybe you have a different outcome in
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  Speaker 2: a couple spots. He was giving stuff up on three
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  Speaker 2: big game-changing plays, so that's one thing. I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was really weird that with Banks and Fuaga out there,
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  Speaker 2: they have the 85% island rate where they don't get help.
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  Speaker 2: With Austin Richards, they had an 85% island rate where
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  Speaker 2: he didn't get help. which is like, you know, come on,
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  Speaker 2: like throw someone out there maybe once in a while
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  Speaker 2: with him, maybe on some of these third downs. Um,
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  Speaker 2: but they're just, you know, they, they don't like using
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  Speaker 2: six Oh line on this team. They use 21 snaps
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  Speaker 2: of it last year. It doesn't look like that's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a strategy. I think there's still a few
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  Speaker 2: things to clean up, but yeah, they look good overall defensively. Um,
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  Speaker 2: I wish they had a different plan against Brock Bowers,
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  Speaker 2: but outside of that, you know, I think Kool-Aid kept
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  Speaker 2: playing well. I think losing Pete Werner was, was low key,
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  Speaker 2: a game changing thing for him. He's quickly become one
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  Speaker 2: of them guys. Um, But, you know, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it was confidence shaking or anything like that. But they
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  Speaker 2: got to– I think Monday now is a must-win game
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  Speaker 2: for them, though. Like, I don't think you can lose
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  Speaker 2: out and keep, you know, positivity around the team. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I think the fan base would be quickly at everybody's neck.
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  Speaker 2: And you saw how quickly that ignited last time. Things
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  Speaker 2: didn't go well. So I think it's very important Monday
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  Speaker 2: night they win that game.
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  Speaker 3: Nick, what we saw Sunday– Who would have thought this
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  Speaker 3: before the season? But did we watch a game with
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  Speaker 3: two good NFL teams between the Raiders and the Saints?
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  Speaker 2: Dude, Kubiak's a great coach. Like, I really think he's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we've been around some good coaches around here,
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  Speaker 2: you know, obviously, and then even just coordinators. Like, DA's
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  Speaker 2: a great coordinator. I think Staley's a really good coordinator,
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  Speaker 2: you know, around Sean Payton. I was in New England covering,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Josh McDaniel's up there as the O.C., I
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  Speaker 2: think Kubiak's has put together is anybody as a play caller,
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  Speaker 2: as a, as a philosopher of what he wants to do.
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  Speaker 2: And I think you see it. The question for me
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  Speaker 2: with him was always like, how would he manage a
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  Speaker 2: room as a head coach? I, you know, I still
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  Speaker 2: don't know that they're going to know that. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't think the saints very similarly with Kellen. Like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think you really know it until there's actual adversity
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  Speaker 2: and you see how they keep it together, just given
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  Speaker 2: how their personalities are. And they're kind of more, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what the word to use is, but they're, they're,
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  Speaker 2: they're not the, they're not John Summerall. Like they're the
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  Speaker 2: opposite of, of whatever that prototype of a coach is.
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  Speaker 2: But man, Kubiak, like he, he puts that thing together, man.
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  Speaker 2: He has a, he has a vision. He has a philosophy. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think the thing that spoke the most
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  Speaker 2: to me about him is that there's a group of
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  Speaker 2: guys that are tied in with him and wherever he goes,
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  Speaker 2: they all go and everybody's jumping to go with him
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  Speaker 2: every time. And that just shows that there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people that believe in him. So yeah, man, like,
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  Speaker 2: I think they got a chance they're in a really
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  Speaker 2: hard division but you know starting out three and oh
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  Speaker 2: it is a big deal in the NFL if you
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  Speaker 2: can get that jump out early in the season um
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  Speaker 2: I think there's like a little thing in the league
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  Speaker 2: right now where everybody kind of bs's preseason and training
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  Speaker 2: camp where if you just went out and went hard
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  Speaker 2: and you jump start and you start out three and
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  Speaker 2: oh man if you get like spotted a couple wins
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  Speaker 2: that might be enough to win you a division of
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs um They look like they went at it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think the Bears always go at it.
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe they won that game last night. They
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  Speaker 2: beat the hell out of the Eagles.
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  Speaker 3: That was awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, like, unbelievable coaching. Like, there's a few guys that
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  Speaker 2: are just different. You know, I think there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of decent coaches, and there's a couple that are, like,
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  Speaker 2: actually really good. And he's one of them. What in
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  Speaker 2: that game with Case Keenum? Like, I know Philly hasn't,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they haven't figured it out yet. They haven't
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  Speaker 2: put it together. They haven't grooved in. But, like, what
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  Speaker 2: in that game like that? But Chase Keenum is unbelievable. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I was looking, I was like, three and a half. Like,
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  Speaker 2: what am I missing? Well, like, I was missing the
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  Speaker 2: proper evaluation of Ben Johnson and Dennis Allen. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know what we were talking about. We're
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  Speaker 2: off to our L's right now, so I'm just going
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  Speaker 2: to shut up.
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  Speaker 3: Well, no, I mean, I actually want to go back
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  Speaker 3: to the point.
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  Speaker 4: Like, so I went to 16 different training camps this offseason,
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  Speaker 4: and the teams that I saw, like, strain through training camp,
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  Speaker 4: The Buffalo Bills, they're 3-0. The Kansas City Chiefs, they're 3-0.
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  Speaker 4: I could go down the list of teams that are
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  Speaker 4: 3-0 that actually went through training camp. Even ones that
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  Speaker 4: are 2-1, like the Steelers and the Ravens, they were different.
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  Speaker 4: The teams that I thought were in a walk-through pace,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of those teams are either 0-3 or 1-2.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying kill your guys in preseason games, but
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  Speaker 4: at some point during training camp, Training camp is training
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  Speaker 4: camp for a reason. You've got to get calloused during
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  Speaker 4: training camp, and the teams that did, the teams that
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  Speaker 4: had hard, physical, quick practices, no standing around, hour and
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  Speaker 4: 40 minutes, we're in, we're out, but we're going to work,
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  Speaker 4: they're 3-0 or 2-1. There is really something to the teams. Now,
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  Speaker 4: the Saints have had bad fortune because I throw the
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  Speaker 4: Saints into a category of a team that works during
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  Speaker 4: training camp, but they've had a chance to win all
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  Speaker 4: three games.
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  Speaker 3: The teams that have looked the.
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  Speaker 4: Worst were the teams I said, why are we even here?
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  Speaker 3: They're not doing anything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I just think like having your offense fully in sync
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  Speaker 2: early in the season can win you like everybody's built
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  Speaker 2: to win like seven games in the NFL and the
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  Speaker 2: circumstances are going to keep you hovering around seven and
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  Speaker 2: the officials are going to cheat a couple of times
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  Speaker 2: for you and help you win a game. If you're
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  Speaker 2: not winning enough games, like it's just kind of, it's
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  Speaker 2: just kind of built that way. If you can steal
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  Speaker 2: two by being ready before everybody else, that could be
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  Speaker 2: the variance that changes things. And if you're a head coach,
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  Speaker 2: that means you're, you're making the $ 7 million for another year. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why everybody doesn't do it. Um, I'm
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  Speaker 2: kind of thinking of the Rams when I look at it.
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  Speaker 2: They look like they kind of go through the paces.
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  Speaker 2: They're a veteran team. They kind of approach it a
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  Speaker 2: little bit, and this might be unfair to say because
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  Speaker 2: it's a thousand-mile distance observation, but it feels like they
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  Speaker 2: go through things at an NBA pace where it's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: we'll be ready for the playoffs. We've got enough talent
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  Speaker 2: to get there. I've heard they're done every day at noon,
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  Speaker 2: like go home done during training camp, and yeah that
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  Speaker 2: keeps your guys like Devontae Adams playing longer and you
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  Speaker 2: know people can keep committing to football as life builds
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  Speaker 2: but they don't look ready to play like so I
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  Speaker 2: just think there is something to it I think there's
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  Speaker 2: something to be in now like you don't want to
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  Speaker 2: go too hard and be worn out by the end
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  Speaker 2: of the season either like that's the flip side of
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  Speaker 2: it but I mean it's there's only 17 of these
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  Speaker 2: games if you can steal two by being ready while
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  Speaker 2: the other team isn't I think that's a huge advantage.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of being ready to play travis a chain um
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  Speaker 3: how we looking what's your what's the word on the
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  Speaker 3: street over there obviously pulled up during a nice little
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  Speaker 3: play this past weekend but availability timeline all that good
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  Speaker 3: stuff Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's probably gonna be a few weeks for him.
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  Speaker 2: And like, you saw that, that thing just bite, but
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  Speaker 2: he reached back, grabbed the back of the thigh. Like
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  Speaker 2: it didn't look good. And he had one coming into it.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm expecting a few weeks there for sure. I
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  Speaker 2: think that would probably push AK into the number one spot.
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  Speaker 2: I thought Kendrick Miller had, it's tough, man. Is the
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  Speaker 2: president of the kind of Kendrick Miller hype fan club, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: like just, this was, this was a confidence rattling a game.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not selling the stock yet. Like I'm too deep
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  Speaker 2: in like, we're going belly up with it. If it,
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  Speaker 2: if it goes belly up, but it's not a good
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  Speaker 2: game for him.
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  Speaker 3: I did.
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  Speaker 2: I got the pink slip. So like, it's okay.
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  Speaker 3: It's okay.
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  Speaker 2: Like we're not going bankrupt over here off it, but
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  Speaker 2: it's not, it's not looking good there. Um, that was
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  Speaker 2: his moment. He'll get another chance here this week, probably to, uh,
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  Speaker 2: cut and bait on estimate and Devin Neal all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden looks a little bit, a little bit different.
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  Speaker 2: Like that room has gotten, uh, thin and they don't
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  Speaker 2: really have the guys there, but yeah, I think it's
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  Speaker 2: probably gonna be AK is running back one. Cause you're
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  Speaker 2: Miller too. Um, maybe CJ Donaldson gets some carries. Like
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  Speaker 2: I think he needs to get some carries cause it's
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  Speaker 2: turned into a massive tell that when he's on the field,
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  Speaker 2: they're going to, they're going to pass the ball. You
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  Speaker 2: can't just run him one time and it's certain one,
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  Speaker 2: like you gotta, you gotta mix them in if he's
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  Speaker 2: going to get that many snaps. So this could be
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  Speaker 2: a good chance for them to break that tendency too.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, it doesn't look great on him. And I
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  Speaker 2: think Jordan Tyson, I don't know. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: it's the Vikings game. Like it sounds like there's maybe
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  Speaker 2: Maybe the timeline's still a little bit in question. It
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  Speaker 2: might extend a little bit longer.
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  Speaker 4: Man, as much as I want Jordan Tyson to be
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  Speaker 4: back out there, it feels like the running back situation
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  Speaker 4: is the one that is going to be the most
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  Speaker 4: concerning because you have other receivers and you have tight
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  Speaker 4: ends that are making plays. Tyson's going to add to that, obviously.
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  Speaker 4: But the running back situation, they finally kind of committed
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  Speaker 4: to it this last game and they're like, hey, we're
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  Speaker 4: going to run the football. They started to have some success,
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  Speaker 4: but If you're without your starting guy, what does that
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  Speaker 4: do to the rotation?
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  Speaker 3: Can you trust Kenji Miller?
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  Speaker 4: We know at this point what AK is, and he
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  Speaker 4: can still give you some valuable carries, but that's the
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  Speaker 4: one that makes me the most nervous, Nick, because I
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  Speaker 4: don't want them to fall back into a situation where
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  Speaker 4: they're not committing to the run and Chuck's having to
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  Speaker 4: throw 45 passes for them to win a game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, and that's one of those things too. If
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  Speaker 2: they play a four-quarter game, they can commit to it
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  Speaker 2: a little more. I do think the fact that they
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  Speaker 2: were running some– draws against six-man boxes and, like, the
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  Speaker 2: four-minute offense kind of maybe inflated the numbers a little
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  Speaker 2: bit there, too, made you feel a little bit better
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  Speaker 2: about it than, like, what it would actually look like.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you're trailing and you're running when they aren't
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  Speaker 2: expecting you to run, and you get, like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: they added, like, 25 yards in that situation. There's still
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  Speaker 2: problems with that, though, man. Like, I'm still extremely worried
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  Speaker 2: about how they're blocking the run, how they're building it.
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  Speaker 2: It was definitely better this week. It was a step
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  Speaker 2: in the right direction, but it wasn't enough to really...
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  Speaker 2: like feel great about it. Um, I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: it's going to take to get there. I think, I
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  Speaker 2: think it's a huge problem for them though, still that
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  Speaker 2: they got to figure out. And, um, yeah, losing, losing
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  Speaker 2: your guy with the most burst is, is a massive
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  Speaker 2: problem there. Like that, that's a big hit. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: with you. I think, I think it's a huge deal.
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  Speaker 2: I think, um, you know, it's only three weeks of
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  Speaker 2: the season that, that investment in the run game, like has,
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  Speaker 2: has not paid off the way it should have though.
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  Speaker 2: Like that was the big commitment this off season. And, um,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I don't think they're seeing the returns on
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  Speaker 2: her right now. So they got to find a way
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  Speaker 2: like with or without him, like that has to get
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  Speaker 2: better because yeah, it can't all be on Tyler and
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  Speaker 2: you got to be able to control the game, control
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  Speaker 2: the clock, all that stuff. So definitely, definitely a huge,
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  Speaker 2: a huge loss with him pulling up in the skin. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That investment not paying off yet, but a previous investment
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  Speaker 3: is paying off. Juwan Johnson is playing awesome right now,
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  Speaker 3: like playing really, really good. And my guy, like, some
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  Speaker 3: of the clips we've seen in the past couple of years,
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  Speaker 3: it's just bricks for hands, but my God, he's just
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  Speaker 3: making everything run after catch has been really good. Um,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I don't even want to ask you like
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  Speaker 3: the basic question. What have you seen from him? Just like,
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  Speaker 3: what has he brought to the offense? So, because like,
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  Speaker 3: if he can keep playing like that, a lot of
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: a add Jordan Tyson in the mix in a couple
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: of weeks, like that running game has no choice, but
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: to be better. Cause they have to worry so much
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: about those guys.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's interesting that like both him and
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: Chris look like that. They're, they're doing way better after
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: the couch. I think, I think in a lot of
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: these case, part of it's getting like some security and no,
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: and now that like, if you catch the screen and
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: you turn up field and try to get all 10
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: yards and you're, you take a hit at the end,
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: like that's not going to be the one that costs you, uh,
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: $ 30 million a year. So I think that kind of,
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: you know, that that's good to see that investment in him.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: I think you just kind of see it paying off
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: in the confidence with how he plays. Juwan's been incredible
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: after the catch. So like just completely unbelievable. Like he
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: just looks lighter on his feet. He looks more agile. Um,
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: Like you said, he's kind of catching everything. Had the
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: tough fumble at the end of the game. But outside
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: of that, man, he's been huge for them. And when
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: he signed that contract, it felt aspirational, as if they
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: were paying him to be something he hadn't achieved yet.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: And now you look at where he ranks in the
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: league among tight ends, and he feels like a bargain.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: He's exceeded it. He's continued to get better. He continues
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: to improve. And I think it's more than just the
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: chemistry with Tyler. It looks like he's really... invested in
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: like improving his game and like in those isolated moments
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: after the catch, catching the ball, you know, just everything.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Like it just, it looks like everything's getting better. It
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: looks like he feels good about how he's playing. You
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: see the growth. He's, he's been like massive for them.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: No question about it.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Last one for me, Nick.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: And it's a draft class that I think we were
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: all really excited about. I love some of the picks and,
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: you know, we've had some of those guys go out
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: there and certainly play and, make some plays, but how
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: would you kind of view this 2026 class so far
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: with Jordan Tyson being out and some of the other
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: pieces being backup pieces? How have you viewed how the
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: saints did so far?
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: This is probably the worst possible time you could ask
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: this question for, for them because like Tyson isn't playing
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Christian Miller's and playing Barry and Brown was out. The
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: styles is, is on IR, like all these pieces, all
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: these guys aren't really doing anything right now. So it, it,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: they haven't, they haven't paid off the way, um, you'd
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: be looking for him to pay off. Jeremiah Wright isn't
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: playing yet. So, I mean, like everybody's kind of, kind
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: of sidelined right now from the class. I still think
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: that there's good upside here. Um, you know, they've made
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: some sidings at defensive tackle that has made it kind
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: of unbelievable that like you're getting away with Christian Miller,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: not playing in Brian Brazee being hurt. And, um, John
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Ridgeway isn't contributing right now. And, you know, they've been
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: pretty decent against some really good running backs. Um, but yeah,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: so far, like definitely not getting the dividends on it.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: I still got, I still got hope for this group though.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: I think when they get on the field, like they'll
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: look good. You know, Jordan Tyson, I think is an
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: incredible player. He's just got to get healthy. So, but
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I guess if you're missing time based on the thing
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: that was the biggest red flag, like that, that's a
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: knock against, you know, that, that risk assessment. So right
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: now arrow all the way down, but like, I think,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: I think it'll go up at some point.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Real quick question to end this. I saw this question
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: in the chat and I really thought it was very interesting. Um, One-on-one,
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: could you take a mountain lion in a fight?
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: 1v1. What age is it? Is it a juvenile mountain lion?
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: I'd say like three years. Three years.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: So three years. It's got some stripes. It's got a
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: couple kills under its belt. I am from Pennsylvania, so
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I've encountered him before.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: What are their weaknesses? Or they don't mind. No, I'm
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: going to play dead and just hope for the best.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not fighting about mine. There's no chance.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: You thought about it, though. You thought about it. I
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: respect the thought process. What about you?
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Are you going to turn on your blinker when you
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: run away from it?
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: I think I could. I don't know if I'm going to.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Flash your alert. I don't think I'm going to kill it.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: I don't think I have the skill set. Maybe I
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: could strangle it or rear naked choke hold or something.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: As it's clawing you. But I'm not going to get killed. Okay.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: All right. I'm coming out of the fight alive. Maybe
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: scratched up pretty decently. Yeah. But I think both of
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: us were going to survive. I think we're both going
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: to make it. All right.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Barehanded. Yeah. Very Switzerland answer. Now, if I had a knife. Sorry. Sorry, PETA.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I'm going to have a mountain lion fur coat. Okay.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Well, there we go. All right.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: Nick Underhill, New Orleans South Football. Good enough to join
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: us every single Tuesday.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Nick, we appreciate it, sir.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, take it easy, guys.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Maybe a rug? A throw rug? Maybe like a bathroom rug.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: It could be like a bathroom rug. Or like the
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: ones that are funky looking. Yeah, you can make a
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: little rug. But way too small for a coat. Like
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: a rug with its head still. Right. It's not going
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: to be a coat. Mountain lions are not very big.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're bigger than the average cat.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're not bobcats.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're not fur coat.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're not, like, fur coat. I feel like
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Mountain Lion can be pretty, I mean, substantial. Maybe for
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: a two-set. Nice cardigan, maybe. I mean, it's a good fight.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: It's a good fight. I'm looking it up. But the average,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say the average Mountain Lion is what? 180?
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Beautiful animals. 150? Male mountain lions, 110 to 220 pounds.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: And then females are $ 60.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: 140.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: It's a big range. So I think it just depends on...
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: It's a huge range. That's literally... Yeah. Narrow that down, internet.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: It could be 200 to 400. Yeah. Okay. I was
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: thinking the length, but I think they're maybe longer than
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I thought. They're a big animal. Okay. They're not human size,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: but pretty big. They're... Adorable. A mountain lion is whipping
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: your ass. I mean, I'm not saying. It's slapping you
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: and your face is going to just start. I'm not
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: going to die. I'm not going to be killed. I'll
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: fight it off. I mean, is that the strategy to
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: go in? If that's your strategy, you've already lost. You're like,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to die. Yeah, I don't know if
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: that's the fight you go in thinking you're the hammer,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: not the nail. I don't know. All right, we're going
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: to break.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: We're going to get you one film clip, a little
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: preview of Eye in the Sky.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: That's coming up later today when we come back here
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: on OTB. Off the Bench.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn presented
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: by Community Steel.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in. Oh, TB. Hey, look.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: My mind just got blown. Not hard to do. A
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: lot of mountain lion talk last segment, which I appreciate.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: You know, I told y'all, we watch a lot of
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: animal documentaries over at the plant house. Adding a lot
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: of syllables to a lot of words that don't need
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: them right now. And I just learned, somebody in the
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: chat said it, that a mountain lion and a puma
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: are the same. Not only that, a cougar as well.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: I had no idea. Same animal, same creature, just different languages.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Naming different animals different things to different parts of the world.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: It's different. I was today years old. And I've watched
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: a lot of animal documentaries. I didn't know this. Why
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: are you yelling at us? I'm just using inflection. Because
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: my mind is blown. That is mind-blowing. I find that fantastic.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: I love.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: You guys know, I love a puma. You do love
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: a puma. I love to say puma. I don't like
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: the way you say it. Puma. Well, that's all. What
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: was the Houston Cougar's name? Shocker.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Shocker.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, what was that animal's name?
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: It was like.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: It was something. It was something. He got his... He
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: got his ring finger stuck in the cage. To Shasta
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: and Sasha. Yeah, Shasta. Shasta's the original one, the OG. Yeah.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: And then she lost her finger. Lost her ring finger
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: in the cage. So now they make fun of the
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: cat's disability and do the very questionable hand movement. Gotta
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: call those things out. Always. All right. Are Florida Panthers? No,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: the Florida Panthers are not the same. Can't be. I
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: don't believe that. I refuse to believe it. I like
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: the Florida Panther, though. They look very similar. Gotta protect them.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Quit building the interstate. They look like they might be
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: the same thing. We gotta protect the Florida Panthers.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Football. Okay, let's do some football.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: All right, here is a little preview of one of
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: the plays we'll talk about on Eye in the Sky
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: later today.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Just giving away the product for free. It's a trailer.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: It's a trailer.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: To what you're going to see later today, subscribe to
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Eye in the Sky on YouTube, and then that video
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: is going to drop a little bit later of.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: The LSU A & M game. A lot to like.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: You know that we say it all the time, sex sells, right?
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: It does. And no.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Better way to sell it than with this clip I'm
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: about to show you. It's a three-yard gain on offense. What?
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? A three-yard gain? Why would you
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: show us that right now? Well, because a lot has
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: been said about Sam Levitt recently, about, you know, incredible athlete, whatever. And, like,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: we talked about it last week in the film review. Man,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: he's just got to slow down. He's got to go
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: through his progressions. Well, this is early-ish in the game. Well,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: first half, four minutes, 16 seconds left in the second quarter.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: The game is 7-3 LSU on top, first down and 10.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Let's get to it. We're going to come out in
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: a 2x2 formation. We're backed up on our own 17-yard line.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: We're going to do a short motion with, I would
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: call this probably the Z receiver. We have Dylan Jones
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: lined up to the right. 2x2 formation, so two receivers
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: to the right, two receivers to the left. Motion the
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: guy from the short side of the play. And we
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: are going to run, I'm going to draw this up
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: here before we play it. It's what I would call
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: a all go hinge. So he's going to run a
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: hinge route. He's going to run a seam route. He
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: right here going to run a drive route or a
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: shallow cross. This would be all go hinge Z drive.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: That's what I would call it. He's going to run
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: a basic cross and he's going to check protection and
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: come backside and run a little flare out right there. Okay.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: So here's the easy progression. These are, this is a
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: progression with an alert. To it. This is how I
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: call it. It's not a pure progression. Progression with an alert.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: What do you alert for? Well, you're alert for an easy.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I'm going to do a little at sign for the alert.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: You're alert here for a cover three. Maybe it's a quarter.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: It's just a one, two, three. It's a pre-snap read.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go. I'm going to throw my, just
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: my five yard hitch route to the bottom or seven
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: yard hinge route, whatever you want to call it. Or
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: I can be alert for the seam route. If it's
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: cover three, cover three, it's another alert. So we got
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: two alerts right here, depending on coverage. If those aren't there,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: what I'm going to do is I'm going to take
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: my drop back. And I'm going to read out my drive,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: my drive side. My drive side is a shallow cross
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: is going to be number one.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: And then we go to the basic cross number two.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: And then my outlet, if he gets out, if there's
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: not a protection situation, outlet number three. So we're alert
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: down low. We read out the play. Now this is
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: the problem with Sam is he has like kind of skipped.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: He'd go to his alert. It's not there. He kind
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: of skips over number one. So we've seen it to
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: where Sam has been like looking at like, his number
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: one read when he's like right here, not over here. Right.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: And number two, but like right here before he even
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: gets to his break and he's skipping past those guys. Okay. So, um,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: he's been too fast. He's got to slow his reads down.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: So let's go ahead and play out the place so
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: you can see the entire thing. And then we'll show
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: it from the back and we'll show you his eyes.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Shall it cross not there or the drive, the basic cross,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: not there. And we get it to our outlet for
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: three yards. For three yards. It's a three-yard gain, but
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: it's a first down play. Guess what? Now you're second
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: and seventh, second and sixth, whatever it is. You can
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: see it from back here that there wasn't anything. They
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: do play a form of cover three. I'd call this
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: like a three-match situation where you're kind of still playing
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: man-to-man with these guys, but he's going to have like
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: a hook. These guys are going to play like he's
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: going to have the curl flat. He's going to back up.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: So they're going to play zone like inside and then
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: match the guys to the wide side of the field. Okay.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: And there's, there's strengths and weaknesses to that, but this
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: guy's taken away. You got, you got your seam. It's
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: not there because although it looks like cover three, they
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: play it like man. So the seam's not there. So
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: you got to come down and watch this. So this
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: end right here, this end right here drops. So it
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: screws up the shallow cross coming. So he's got to
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: kind of like weave in and his timing gets thrown off.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: So you're going to see it. The shallow cross is
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: not going to be open. The basic cross is not
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: going to be open. It's your outlet. Play on time. Now,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: if you wait there for the shallow cross, maybe, but
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: that's not the play. That's not how you read it out.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: So you're going to come, you're going to see here,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: they got kind of a three down front. We've seen
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: this a little bit since Louisiana Tech had some success
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: with it, but you're still going to count these guys.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: You're going to count these guys as your down linemen. One, two, three, four.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Then you're going to probably block one more. So they
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: might've gone here. The linemen are going to have those five.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Harlan Berry is going to have Or not Harlan Berry.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Dylan Joe's going to have everybody else. So he's going
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: to look around. He's going to get out. I love this.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: We always talk about the stripe on the helmet. Yep.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Watch the stripe of the quarterback. That's where you can
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: tell where his eyes are. Okay, look. Right here, early on.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Where's his eyes? They're right there.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: You go forward a little bit. Right here. He's right
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: here looking at his number one and number two receivers.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Right down the middle of the field. He He's already
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: said it, so he's looked at number one. He's looking
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: at number two right now. It's not there. A week ago,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: two weeks ago, he's taken off running. Right now. Right now.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: And he hadn't even looked. He's kind of scanned the
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: field before. He gets there. It's not open. Check it down.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Get three yards, maybe even four. Go to the next
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: play on schedule. Get the guys in space. Who knows?
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Maybe you break that tackle for eight, nine yards. I
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: saw this multiple times throughout the game. Excited to see it.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: It was like I saw that play and I was like, oh,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: my God, that is awesome. He did this a couple
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: of different times. He did it. I think I got
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: I have my three or four of these. Now, some
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: of them are eight, nine yard gains. But this one
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: was three yards. But it told me a much bigger
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: story than just three yards on the field. And I
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: believe this might even be before his hamstring was hurting.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: So we can't put it all on just the hamstring situation.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Now I think it helped slow him down even more,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: but this was like, okay, Sam gets it. He knows
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: he has to improve. He knows he has to get
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: through his progressions and you can't blame it all on protection.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: You can't blame it on just because he's got a
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: clean pocket. Sam's not the first person to play the
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: quarterback position because When pressure. With not a clean pocket
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: every single play. You have to navigate the pocket. You
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: saw Case Keenum do it yesterday. Guy hadn't played in
• 30:07
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  Speaker 3: protection issues. That's not the problem. Yeah, sometimes it is.
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  Speaker 3: It's a team sport. But a lot of times those
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  Speaker 3: pressure issues were on him. and he knows this yes
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  Speaker 3: so these are so he and even when he had
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  Speaker 3: a clean pocket it's not like he was going through
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  Speaker 3: his reads so this play right here showed me there
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  Speaker 3: is improvement there is a bright future for him i
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  Speaker 3: things when that hamstring gets healthy still hit the same
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  Speaker 3: person yeah it's there so take it so i was
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  Speaker 3: excited watching this i was excited i didn't i don't
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  Speaker 3: even think i put a lot of negative plays from
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  Speaker 3: there wasn't a lot of like really negative play. There
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  Speaker 3: not a ton of the run, but a lot more
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  Speaker 4: somebody else's analytics of how many times a quarterback was
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  Speaker 4: pressured and think that it was only a clean pocket. Now,
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  Speaker 3: That's why you made a move.
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  Speaker 4: But there's so many things that a quarterback can do
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  Speaker 4: the football. Those are all going to be things on
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  Speaker 4: the quarterback. It's not always going to be super clean.
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  Speaker 4: But even in a dirty pocket, there's a window to find.
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  Speaker 3: And you don't have to be super athletic to find it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not throwing too much shade, but my guy Peyton
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  Speaker 4: Manning wasn't the most fleet of foot.
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  Speaker 3: But he was so elite in his pocket movement. So
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  Speaker 3: was Phillip Rivers.
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  Speaker 4: And Aaron Rodgers is more athletic than those two guys,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm just saying guys that wouldn't be considered burners.
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  Speaker 3: But in the pocket, they were super.
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  Speaker 4: Athletic because they would find little creases and spaces to
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  Speaker 4: get themselves into. And they're big guys, but they would
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  Speaker 4: find a crease to get into just so they could
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  Speaker 4: deliver the football and then take a hit.
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  Speaker 3: Right. Like, that's on the quarterback. And playing the quarterback's position,
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  Speaker 3: of course, you can't control everything, right? If a guy
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  Speaker 3: misses a block up the middle, yeah, it's hard to
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  Speaker 3: go through your progressions. It's impossible.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But you also, because they missed the block in the
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  Speaker 3: first quarter, doesn't mean you can rush and not play
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  Speaker 3: the position the way you're supposed to in the second quarter. Right?
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: So that's kind of my point. It's like, Sam, it
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: was– It wasn't just pressure was why he was rushing everything.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: He needed to improve. He needed to slow his mind
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  Speaker 3: down and just know. And he knows. He's a tough kid.
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  Speaker 3: We all know that he's gritty and tough and super athletic.
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  Speaker 3: But you also, as a passer, you got to just
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  Speaker 3: know sometimes you are going to throw the ball and
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  Speaker 3: get hit right in the face. Right in it. Right
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  Speaker 3: in the chest. Whatever it is. You're going to get hit.
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  Speaker 3: Someone's going to come in and elbow you in the
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  Speaker 3: rib cage and crack a couple. Like, that's fine. Whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Let him.
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  Speaker 4: The timing of if we went back last week and
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  Speaker 4: watched him go through his progressions, and just, like, the jitters.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: And I'm not saying, like, jitters like you're nervous, but, like,
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  Speaker 4: just like a little jackrabbit back there because, you know,
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  Speaker 4: he knows he can run.
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  Speaker 3: But, like, it was so quick.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: And in this game, it felt like it was just
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: very slow, very methodical.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: And just boom, read, read, read. And he made some
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  Speaker 3: of the best throws of the season. And it was all, like,
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  Speaker 3: in the same pace. You know what I'm saying? Like,
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  Speaker 3: nothing was sped up.
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  Speaker 4: The entire process went through the same space of going
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  Speaker 4: through your reads and then calmly delivering the football, too.
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  Speaker 3: Now, I'd still like to see his drop back footwork
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  Speaker 3: get better.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: It's still sloppy, but he's... I think that's more of, like,
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: what's being taught today's quarterback than anything, too.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Yes and no. It can be cleaned up, for sure.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Yes and no. He's still speeding up his drop back
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: a little much, but he's a lot slower at the top.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: At the top of his drop back. And not... And again, hyperactive...
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Little jackrabbit back there, whatever. Nothing that we're saying has
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: anything to do with how tough we think Sam is.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Because the dude seems to be tough as nails. It's
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: just training. You've got to train yourself. And it seems
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: like he's done it. And we've seen people do it.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: I talked about the progression that Jaden Daniels made when
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: he was here. Playing quarterback, not very good. Now making
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: plays and being a playmaker, and you see these flashes
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: of greatness. But then you see, man, Jaden can't get
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: to a second read. He doesn't know where a check
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: down is. He's taking off running a lot of the
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: same stuff. But then all of a sudden, boom, it
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: was like a light switch went off. And all of
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: a sudden, the guy's the best quarterback, the best player
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: in the entire country. And then goes off to have
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: the greatest NFL rookie season that anybody's ever seen. And
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: a year and a half before that, couldn't get to
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: his second progression. And so, like, it can be done.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: And hopefully this is the start of it being done
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: with Sam because he's got the skill set to do it.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: He can work on some footwork things. He can work
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: on a little throw mechanical things. But, my God, I mean,
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: he's got the good stuff. He was making the hard
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: stuff look easy, and sometimes the easy stuff look hard. Yeah.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: That's a good thing. If you're a coach, that's a
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: good problem to have. Yep.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: And it was good to see how quickly those improvements
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: were made. And we're not talking about improvements against directional
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: school U.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Do I think Texas A & M is going to
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: be a great football team? No, I don't.
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  Speaker 4: But still– They've got a lot of Jimmys and Joes
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  Speaker 4: that are NFL players on the other side of the football.
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  Speaker 4: And the fact that you were able to go from
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  Speaker 4: what it was the week before to what it was
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  Speaker 4: on Saturday, that's very impressive.
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  Speaker 3: And so now.
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  Speaker 4: How much can you continue to develop and grow that
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  Speaker 4: as the schedule gets only more difficult? All right, we're
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  Speaker 4: Matt, how much milk would you be telling Sam to
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  Speaker 3: At least a glass. At least a glass. Minimum a glass.
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  Speaker 3: Don't let it have an almond in it. I respect.
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  Speaker 3: But there's also parts that I would respect more. Just
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  Speaker 4: What is one thing you were taught in the NFL
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  Speaker 3: Footwork, footwork, footwork, footwork, footwork. And did I say footwork?
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  Speaker 3: You did. Pre-snap recognition with things. Again, pre-snap recognition, post-snap reaction.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I think a lot of times in the
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  Speaker 3: You learn the why of what they do. But footwork.
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