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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 10-9-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Happy friday everybody welcome to the sean o'connell show coming
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  Speaker 1: at you live today from the smiths marketplace out in
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  Speaker 1: daybreak 54 48.
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  Speaker 2: West come on out and see us i'll be honest
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  Speaker 2: i didn't even know daybreak went this far west we
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  Speaker 2: are out here just uh on the west side of
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  Speaker 2: the mountain view corridor 5448 West Daybreak Parkway.
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  Speaker 3: It's a beautiful day.
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  Speaker 2: It's a beautiful new location for a Smith's Marketplace.
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  Speaker 3: And we've got you hooked up.
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  Speaker 2: We've got our signature ESPN 700 92.1 FM taffies. We've
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  Speaker 2: got Ultimate Tailgate Experience tickets. Courtesy of our friends at Smith's,
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  Speaker 2: we've got Mountain America Home Show at the Mountain America
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  Speaker 2: Expo Center tickets. And... We've got two pairs of Utah
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  Speaker 2: football tickets that we can give away, sponsored by Pepsi.
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  Speaker 2: If you come here to Smith's Marketplace in Daybreak, you
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  Speaker 2: purchase $ 3, 500 in Pepsi products.
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  Speaker 3: Show us the receipt.
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  Speaker 2: First two people to come down and do that will
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  Speaker 2: win a pair of tickets to the Utah-Kansas game kicking
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  Speaker 2: off at Rice-Eccles Stadium, 8.15 p.m.
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  Speaker 4: Tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 2: $ 35 in Pepsi purchases. We know what you want, right?
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  Speaker 2: You want the energy drinks. You want that Diet Dr. Pepper,
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  Speaker 2: that sweet, sweet nectar of the gods.
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  Speaker 3: Come on down. Stock up.
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  Speaker 2: Put a bunch in your fridge. Put a bunch in
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  Speaker 2: your garage. You start your tailgate experience. You start your
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  Speaker 2: watch party with Smith's. You need buns for the dogs.
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  Speaker 2: You need chips. You need dips. You need sides. Smith's
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  Speaker 2: Marketplace has everything. And at Smith's Marketplace, you can actually
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  Speaker 2: come down. You can buy the charcoal briquettes. You can
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  Speaker 2: buy the whole grill. I love a good Smith's Marketplace.
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  Speaker 2: This one is glittering new. It's still got that new
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  Speaker 2: car smell. This is an incredible store. 5448 West Daybreak Parkway.
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  Speaker 2: All the way out here. Just on the other side
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  Speaker 2: of the Mountain View Corridor, come see us. And if
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  Speaker 2: you need a pair of tickets to Utah versus Kansas
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow night, we've got two pairs to give away.
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  Speaker 4: You have to make.
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  Speaker 2: $ 35 in Pepsi purchases here at Smith's and show us
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  Speaker 2: your receipt.
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  Speaker 3: Fun show lined up for you today.
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  Speaker 2: Bill Riley, voice of the Utes, is going to join
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  Speaker 2: us in about 27 minutes.
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  Speaker 3: We've got the Daily Dump coming.
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  Speaker 2: We've got picks for the weekend, my own and those
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  Speaker 2: from Lee Sterling. We've got a preview of a really
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  Speaker 2: interesting game down in Provo tonight. And, of course, at 1.30,
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  Speaker 2: we'll air our grievances at 1 o'clock, Colton Swan in
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  Speaker 2: Coordinator's Corner. Brought to you by our friends at Mountain
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  Speaker 2: Home Services. Great talking to the defensive coordinator yesterday. We
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  Speaker 2: recorded that interview because, obviously, he's got better things to
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  Speaker 2: do today, but, man, Colton Swann's got something cooking with
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  Speaker 2: that Utah defense.
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  Speaker 4: That right now.
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  Speaker 3: Is among the most potent in the nation.
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  Speaker 2: And I know I've belabored this point, and I've said
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  Speaker 2: it before, but we have to at least show our
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  Speaker 2: appreciation for it. We have to show the gratitude, or
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  Speaker 2: maybe there's a better word for it, but the acknowledgement that.
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  Speaker 3: This is a squad. This is a Utah football team.
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  Speaker 2: That replaced both coordinators and replaced their head coach and
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  Speaker 2: did not take a backward step, at least as of yet,
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  Speaker 2: in a season with so much uncertainty. And they didn't
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  Speaker 2: take a backward step despite losing two of last year's
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  Speaker 2: five most productive defensive players. Despite losing the guy who
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  Speaker 2: on paper looked like he was going to be your
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  Speaker 2: best wide receiver coming into this year. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 2: just a lot of reasons why it could have gone wrong,
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  Speaker 2: and it hasn't. So, Utah football in action tomorrow night
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  Speaker 2: against Kansas. And we've touched on it. We've danced around it.
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  Speaker 2: We've talked about it a little bit. But I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to give a deeper dive into what Kansas actually is.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to give a deeper dive into what this
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  Speaker 2: Kansas Jayhawks team is really bringing to Rice-Eccles Stadium tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 2: if there's a hidden negative to the fact that Utah
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  Speaker 2: football has been as good as they are, that consistency
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  Speaker 2: at least allows the opposition to know what to prepare for,
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  Speaker 2: allows the opposition to take a look at it and say,
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  Speaker 2: all right, I know what I'm getting from Utah.
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  Speaker 3: Kansas, you don't know. You really don't.
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  Speaker 2: Kansas is really difficult for me to figure out right
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  Speaker 2: now because.
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  Speaker 3: Statistically, they've got some nice things going on right now.
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  Speaker 2: In the actual columns that matter, like points scored, not
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  Speaker 2: so much. And even in games where it looks like
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  Speaker 2: they're out playing the competition, they can't find a way
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  Speaker 2: to win. And those are the power four games, of course.
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  Speaker 2: Middle Tennessee State, they mollywhopped them. They skewed some of
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  Speaker 2: their stats by smashing Middle Tennessee State. In the Big
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  Speaker 2: 12 game and in the game against an SEC opponent,
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  Speaker 2: the Board of War against Missouri, well, Missouri dominated them.
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  Speaker 2: Kansas somehow made the game look closer than it actually was.
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  Speaker 2: On the opposite side of that coin, Arizona State beats
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  Speaker 2: Kansas 24-17 despite the fact that Kansas had more than
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  Speaker 2: double the passing yards in the game. They outrushed the
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  Speaker 2: Arizona State Sun Devils by about 60 yards. Turnovers ended
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  Speaker 2: up being the doom of the Kansas Jayhawks in that
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  Speaker 2: particular contest, but they outplayed in a lot of ways
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  Speaker 2: Arizona State and then handed the game back to the
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  Speaker 2: Sun Devils and lost 24-17. Arizona State, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: is equally inconsistent. They took advantage of some mistakes by
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  Speaker 2: Kansas to get their only powerful win of the year.
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  Speaker 2: They got smashed by Texas A & M. They got
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  Speaker 2: smashed by Baylor. So Arizona State can't beat you unless
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  Speaker 2: you turn over the ball. Kansas can't win turning the
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  Speaker 2: ball over that much, very obviously, because nobody can, because
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  Speaker 2: it's impossible to do. And Utah's done a pretty good
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  Speaker 2: job this year, knock it on wood. of taking care
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  Speaker 2: of the football. If you don't afford the Kansas Jayhawks
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  Speaker 2: any untoward opportunities, this should be a boat race. And
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  Speaker 2: I know it's dangerous to even approach a game with
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  Speaker 2: that mentality, so I hope that Utah itself, the team itself,
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  Speaker 2: does not actually approach things that way. But goodness gracious,
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  Speaker 2: this is a game.
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  Speaker 3: That you should be able to go out.
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  Speaker 2: And grab yourself a convincing victory without even playing perfect football.
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  Speaker 2: Utah is 15.5-point favorites in this one, and if you
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  Speaker 2: don't win by three scores, it means something went wrong.
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  Speaker 2: It means that you played below the standard you have
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  Speaker 2: already set through four games or that Kansas found some
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  Speaker 2: secret serum and figured out something that they haven't shown
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  Speaker 2: us in the last four weeks themselves. Against the power
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  Speaker 2: competition that they have faced, the Kansas Jayhawks are just
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  Speaker 2: not up to snuff with what Utah has been putting
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  Speaker 2: on the field. And that becomes a dangerous scenario because
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  Speaker 2: these players watch the film. These players look at what
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  Speaker 2: Kansas has already done. These coaches have to go in
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  Speaker 2: and they have to manufacture in some.
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  Speaker 3: Ways for these players.
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  Speaker 2: They have to manufacture a threat because, goodness, Against Missouri,
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  Speaker 2: 292 passing yards given up by the Kansas Jayhawks. They
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  Speaker 2: gained 174 through the air in that game. Missouri almost
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  Speaker 2: rushed for 200 yards, 177 on 41 carries. So, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a respectable average. Kansas held them to a respectable average. Kansas, 2.2
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  Speaker 2: yards a carry.
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  Speaker 3: That is abysmally bad against Missouri. And by the way,
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  Speaker 3: Utah should be getting.
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  Speaker 2: In that contest, had 20 carries for 23 yards.
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  Speaker 3: Now, he got pushed back a bunch.
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  Speaker 2: He got sacked four times, which of course sucked away
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  Speaker 2: from his run totals. But I'm looking at this game,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm having a hard time not just saying, Utes
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  Speaker 2: by a million.
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  Speaker 4: Utes by 40.
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  Speaker 2: Now, we've discussed over the bye week and last week,
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  Speaker 2: we've discussed. the slowdown in the third quarter and how
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  Speaker 2: that can become a problematic situation. We've discussed the fact
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  Speaker 2: that you've got to come out after halftime and keep
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  Speaker 2: the foot on the gas pedal. We talked with Devin
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  Speaker 2: Dampier about it. I didn't have an opportunity to ask
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  Speaker 2: Colton Swan about that We will ask Kevin McGiven about that,
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  Speaker 2: Mac G, when he joins us next time. Morgan Scali
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  Speaker 2: talked about it a little bit in the press conference.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just one of those things that against Kansas
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  Speaker 2: it probably shouldn't kill you, but it might be the
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  Speaker 2: thing that gives the Jayhawks the glimmer of hope that
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  Speaker 2: they need in a night game at Rice-Eckel Stadium where
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  Speaker 2: the atmosphere is going to be insane.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be raucous.
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  Speaker 4: It's going to be crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be a nightmare scenario for the Kansas Jayhawks.
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking at all the numbers. I'm looking at the
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  Speaker 2: available film, because I don't get the all 22 like
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  Speaker 2: I used to. And I'm looking at this Kansas Jayhawks team,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm saying, how many of your guys would even
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  Speaker 2: start at the University of Utah? How many of your guys?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they've got a couple of nice defensive ends.
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  Speaker 2: We had Todd Haney on the show. And he was like,
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  Speaker 2: Brian Haney, excuse me. We had Brian Haney on the show.
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  Speaker 2: And he talked about, you know, the hopeful draft picks.
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  Speaker 2: on their defense and the guys that could be should
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  Speaker 2: be more disruptive.
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  Speaker 3: But right now.
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  Speaker 2: If you're this Kansas Jayhawks team you are flying to
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  Speaker 2: Salt Lake City today and wondering where the hope is
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  Speaker 2: found wondering where your production is found wondering what you
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  Speaker 2: can get done maybe You're washing that Missouri film out
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  Speaker 2: of your mind with the Middle Tennessee State film and
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  Speaker 2: trying to convince yourself that that version of Jayhawk football
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  Speaker 2: is the real version of Jayhawk football.
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  Speaker 4: I am far from convinced.
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  Speaker 2: You saw in the Thursday night football game last night
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  Speaker 2: a Dallas Cowboys team that has some of what the
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  Speaker 2: Kansas Jayhawks are suffering from right now. It's not a
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  Speaker 2: lack of talent. There's great athletes on this Kansas football team.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's even poor coaching. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: an internal want to. It's a drive issue. It's are
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  Speaker 2: you running to the football? Are you getting off of blocks?
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  Speaker 2: Are you finding a way to keep the drive alive?
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  Speaker 2: Are you committing these penalties? Is your focus where it
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  Speaker 2: needs to be? And all of these things, right, there's
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  Speaker 2: a mirror image of this when we're talking about Utah
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  Speaker 2: football because they have done those things before. those necessary
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  Speaker 2: things so far in the season. They're starting to feel
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  Speaker 2: the pressure that comes with being a number 12 ranked team.
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  Speaker 2: They're starting to feel the expectation of a fan base
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  Speaker 2: that came into the year with a lot of question
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  Speaker 2: marks and a lot of I wonders, and now is
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  Speaker 2: just unabashedly, and I'm trying to temper it, but I
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  Speaker 2: also can't, unabashedly saying like, yeah, it is now Big
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  Speaker 2: 12 championship or bust. The predictive markets say that you've
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  Speaker 2: got as good a chance as anybody. BYU has got
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  Speaker 2: these injuries racking up. And the excuses that exist for
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  Speaker 2: every other team are absent for the University of Utah.
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  Speaker 2: And the excuses that you had coming into the year that, again,
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  Speaker 2: we were making for them, they were never going to
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  Speaker 2: make for themselves, are fading out of people's minds. Because
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  Speaker 2: what we've seen through four games and what we're seeing
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  Speaker 2: from the off-the-field stuff and what we're hearing from the
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  Speaker 2: coaching staff and what we're hearing from the players is
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  Speaker 2: like this self-possessed confidence that is– Far from unrealistic, it's fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: This looks like a veteran team, even when they're not
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  Speaker 2: that veteran. This looks like a team full of guys
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  Speaker 2: who've been high-level, every-down starters for three, four years, even
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  Speaker 2: though that's not the case with a lot of these individuals.
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  Speaker 2: And it all starts from the quarterback position, where I
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  Speaker 2: think you're completely on the opposite end of the spectrum
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  Speaker 2: of where this team was a few years ago, where
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  Speaker 2: you're like, you know what? Come hell or high water,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to be okay with the quarterback. Devin Dampier
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  Speaker 2: is going to make us right. Bert Ficklin failing Devin
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  Speaker 2: Dampier's health is going to make us right. And it's this,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Morgan Scali deserves a ton of credit. It's
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  Speaker 2: this sort of pervasive confidence that goes all the way
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  Speaker 2: down to the lowest level of the team.
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  Speaker 4: And I'll tell you, that is one thing.
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  Speaker 2: That I think has separated the great teams in Utah
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  Speaker 2: football history from the good teams in Utah football history.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't want to put undue pressure on this
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  Speaker 2: year's squad, but that awareness, that assuredness that, hey, even
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  Speaker 2: the guy who's fourth on the depth chart right now
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  Speaker 2: knows his responsibility.
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  Speaker 4: Even the guy who knows he's not going to get.
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  Speaker 2: Into a game this season because he's They don't have
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  Speaker 2: red shirts anymore. But he's so far down the depth
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  Speaker 2: chart that he knows his duty to this squad is
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  Speaker 2: scout team looks, right? The confidence trickles all the way
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  Speaker 2: down to those types of individuals. The body language on
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  Speaker 2: the sideline, the self-belief, the positive talk, the shrugging off
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  Speaker 2: any issue. The laughing at, rather than feeling defensive about,
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  Speaker 2: but the laughing at the concerns expressed by other people
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  Speaker 2: or the flaws, the quote-unquote flaws that are being pointed
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  Speaker 2: out and the fact that this team is just like, okay, yeah, well,
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  Speaker 2: only thing we can do is play. And that's what
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  Speaker 2: they're doing right now. And they've got the number one
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  Speaker 2: scoring offense in the Big 12. They've got the number
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  Speaker 2: one scoring defense in the Big 12. They're hosting a
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  Speaker 2: Kansas team this week that has– skewed its numbers on
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  Speaker 2: the positive front from last week to be middle.
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  Speaker 4: Of the road in the conference.
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  Speaker 2: If you're a utah fan on a friday there are
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  Speaker 2: going to be games where i caution you against this
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  Speaker 2: all right there are going to be games where i
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  Speaker 2: tell you absolutely do not feel this way but i
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  Speaker 2: am i am maybe more confident in utah winning and
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  Speaker 2: covering in this game than i've been about utah winning
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  Speaker 2: or covering in any game in the last three years
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  Speaker 2: and i i'm knocking on my own forehead because i
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  Speaker 2: don't want to curse anything here like this is the
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  Speaker 2: exact kind of mentality that the team itself cannot have
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  Speaker 2: but white out kind of fresh new thing fancy helmets
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  Speaker 2: uh by the way the the exclusive drops from some
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  Speaker 2: of these gear providers.
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  Speaker 4: We saw the hats.
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  Speaker 3: If you, if you follow me on Instagram or on social, you.
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  Speaker 2: Saw the hats that were, that were dropped yesterday that
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  Speaker 2: coincidentally matched the iced out helmets that they're wearing for
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  Speaker 2: this Kansas game, uh, sold out in 30 seconds. And
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  Speaker 2: then the pre-order that was the, the stock actually in
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  Speaker 2: hand sold out in 30 seconds. And then the pre-order for, uh,
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  Speaker 2: that they released after that, gone in less than 20
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  Speaker 2: minutes after. So the Ute fans, I think justifiably so
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  Speaker 2: in this particular weekend, are probably as concerned or more
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  Speaker 2: concerned about the atmosphere and the wardrobe than they are
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  Speaker 2: about what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: On the field.
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  Speaker 3: And there's going to be games where you can't feel
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  Speaker 3: that way.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe I'll have to eat crow, but I just
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  Speaker 2: have an incredible amount of confidence in this team right
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  Speaker 2: now because of The comparative, because of what we're seeing,
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  Speaker 2: because of the consistency and the high-level stuff we're seeing
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  Speaker 2: from Utah and the absence of that from Kansas. And
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  Speaker 2: perhaps the most important of all of it, and one
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  Speaker 2: of the things that's going to separate, again, a quality
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  Speaker 2: team from a bad team or a good team from
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  Speaker 2: just an okay team, or more importantly, what Utah wants
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  Speaker 2: this year, a great team from a good team, is
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  Speaker 2: the lack of self-inflicted wounds. I mean, Utah flirted with
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  Speaker 2: being a great team last year. Utah was a win away,
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  Speaker 2: not two wins, a win away from being one of
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  Speaker 2: the all-time best Utah football teams. Now, they're going to
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  Speaker 2: be talked about as like an honorable mention. They're going
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  Speaker 2: to be given some credit. And we're going to look
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  Speaker 2: back on the 2025 season. I think it's going to
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  Speaker 2: age well. But had it not been for self-inflicted wounds
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  Speaker 2: in that particular season, We're talking about a special year.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about a year that goes in the annals
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  Speaker 2: of Utah football history alongside the Pac-12 championship years and
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  Speaker 2: goes alongside the.
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  Speaker 3: Fiesta Bowl and the Sugar Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it still might be a top five season
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  Speaker 2: in Utah football history, but without self-inflicted wounds in the
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  Speaker 2: Texas Tech game in the fourth quarter, in the BYU
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  Speaker 2: game especially, We're talking about that being like a truly
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  Speaker 2: remarkable season. And maybe you go to the Big 12
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  Speaker 2: championship game and you lose to Texas Tech, and it's
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  Speaker 2: still never going to get elevated onto that same level
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  Speaker 2: as some of the all-time great seasons. But this year,
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  Speaker 2: the lack of self-inflicted wounds is probably the greatest triumph
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  Speaker 2: of a coaching staff that is by and large new.
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  Speaker 2: because again these are the built-in excuses you give to
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  Speaker 2: a new head coach new coordinators new position coaches right
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  Speaker 2: ah they're still getting some things dialed in they're here
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  Speaker 2: establishing the culture they got to figure out this that
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  Speaker 2: the other thing and so you're going to have some
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  Speaker 2: false start penalties and and a couple of drives are
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  Speaker 2: going to get killed with procedure-type issues, and there's going
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  Speaker 2: to be communication breakdowns because everyone's still getting used to
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  Speaker 2: each other.
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  Speaker 4: The absence of those explanations.
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  Speaker 2: Or excuses in the first four games of the season, when,
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  Speaker 2: of course, the first four games of the season is
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  Speaker 2: exactly when that stuff is going to show itself, right? Now,
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  Speaker 2: if it does, after you've had four games and a
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  Speaker 2: bye week, now... We're going to get really mad. Now
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  Speaker 2: we're going to be vindicated or justified in feeling upset
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: about something like that. For the first four games, you
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: kind of would have had to accept it.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: But we didn't. You didn't have to swallow that. Utah
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: played clean football in four games.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: And I was hesitant to even come on with this
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: tone to start the show today because, I mean... It's
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: easy in today's era. Anything you say, all of our
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: shows are on the Internet, right? And you can pull receipts.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Kansas fans, Kansas Jayhawks fans, if they wanted to, if
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I'm wrong about any of this, could go back and
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: they could pull segments and they could tweet it at
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: me ad nauseum, ad infinitum, and I would just have
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: to eat that crow. But I'm looking at a Kansas
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: team that does all the things. Lance Leipold is a
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: good coach, and he's been there a while. And, yeah,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: he's got– Kotelnicki is back, and so there's some readjustment
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: potentially in that play calling. But, like, Kansas is dealing
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: with some of the procedural issues and some of the
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: penalties and some of the turnovers and some of the
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: miscues and some of the self-inflicted wounds that, on paper,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: heading into the 2026 season, we might have expected Utah
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: to have to weather. We might have expected Utah to
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: have to, like, deal with those things.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: But here we are.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Utah's 4-0, the number 12 team in the country. Kansas
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: is coming in 2-2. We have our first visitor that's
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: going to claim a couple of these tickets. She's at
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Smith's Marketplace to grab some Pepsi products. I actually appreciate,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: this is now the second time in a row that
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: this has happened. We have people come to the table,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: and by the way, We're at Smith's Marketplace out in Daybreak,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: 5448 West Daybreak Parkway, way out here almost against the
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Oakers on the west side of the Mountain View Corridor.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: A beautiful new Smith's Marketplace.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: We have two pairs of Utah versus Kansas tickets to
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: give away.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: And just like at.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Our last Smith's Marketplace remote, our first visitor walks up
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: to the table and says, hey, do you still have
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: the tickets?
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Because if you do, I'm about to go load up
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: on Pepsi products. And guess what?
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: We have both pair currently. One is about to be claimed.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: That means if you're going to get out here, you
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: better get out here now. You've got to buy $ 35
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: in Pepsi products. These tickets are courtesy of our friends
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: at Pepsi, and we will give you a pair of tickets.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Even if you come out after the tickets are gone,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: we do have Smith's gift cards.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: We have home show tickets.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: We also have Smith's tailgate passes, which, by the way,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: such an underrated prize, an underrated giveaway. The Smith's Ultimate Tailgate,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: across the street from Rice Echo Stadium every weekend, you've
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: got four food options in there. You've got unlimited beverages,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: and you don't even have to.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Like, order them from someone. You just walk up, there's
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: coolers everywhere, and you grab, like, what is this thing?
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: I'm not joking.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: There were things in there. last week that I didn't
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: even know existed. There were flavors of Mountain Dew that
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I have not yet experienced. They got Celsius energy drinks.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: They have everything there at the Smith's tailgate experience. And
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: we have tailgate passes to give away. It's you plus
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: three for every one of.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: These little tickets.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: So it's admission for four into the ultimate tailgate experience.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Even if you don't plan on going to the game,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: just come have dinner with us.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Come hang out.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: An hour or two before the game, grab some free food,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: grab some great beverages, absorb.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: The atmosphere, hang out with your fellow Utes, and then
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: go back and watch it.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: At home if you don't want to go into Rice-Eccles Stadium.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: But you can also hit the double whammy because we've
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: got giveaways right here, right now, on the Sean O'Connell Show.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: 5448 West, Daybreak Parkway.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: The Smith's Marketplace, and we are over next to the
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Starbucks inside. We're right next to the delicatessen sign. There
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: are chips and pretzels and beverages and fresh produce and
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: everything you need to get yourself ready for a tailgate or,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: of course, a home watch party as Utah takes on
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Kansas at 8.15 p.m.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Tomorrow night.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: The Kansas Jayhawks are ripe for the plucking. This should
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: be the kind of game where Utah, 12th in the
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: country right now, with a 3-4 score win, starts to
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: really flirt with, hey, we're a top-10 team. Because we're
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: getting to the time of year where the attrition is
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: piling up, where there are some teams, even teams ranked
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: above Utah, that have injury problems, that have play-calling issues,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: that have some inconsistencies showing.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm getting out over my skis, and I
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: hate doing that. I'm getting ahead of myself here, and
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: I hate doing that because Utah is entering the meat
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: of their schedule, the tough part.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Of their schedule after this week. But I don't think
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: it starts this week. Kansas has athletes who are right
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: now making mental errors, not hustling to the ball on defense,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: dropping things on offense, missing assignments, communicating poorly with one another,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: bad body language. And I don't think that got fixed
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: against Middle Tennessee State. 55-0 against a mid-major is certainly
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: going to be helpful for the Jayhawks.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: But watch the Missouri recap. Watch the Arizona State recap.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: They should have won that Arizona State game. They should
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: have run away with that Arizona State game. They stalled
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: out their own drives. They gave the ball back to
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: the Sun Devils. And the Sun Devils, who are not
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: good this year, survived it. And scored one more touchdown
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: than the Jayhawks did. I think this is a big
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: win for the Utes.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: We'll get to some of your predictions as the show progresses.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: If you want to text in, 877-353-0700. Even if you
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: want to tell me to shut up and not curse
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: this team, I just want to hear from you. I'd
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: like to see you in person out here at daybreak
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: at the Smith's Marketplace. And if you come out, I'll
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: say I'm going to.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Cynthia is my tech out here. We'll figure it out.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: If they make it out in the next 20 minutes,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: you probably have a chance at the tickets. If you're
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: not here by 11.48 a.m.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I'm going to guess that these tickets are gone. So
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: come see us.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Bill Riley, voice of the Utes, joins me next. We're
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: rolling on a Friday. It's the Sean O'Connell Show on
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: We'll be right back.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: You're tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Chevrolet studio of ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, like a WWE.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Star or a UFC star, when you hear that music,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: you know who's marching in, and that is, of course,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: my next guest, the voice of the Utes, Bill Riley,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: who joins us on a Friday to preview Utah vs.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Kansas. Bill Riley, welcome to the show.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: How are you, sir?
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: Just once, I'd like Jim Ross to say, wait a minute.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Is that you, too? Is that Bill Riley's music?
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God! It's Bill Riley's music!
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, you know what?
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: That's giving me terrible mental pictures of what strange WWE
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: tights you'd be wearing marching out on the ramp, so...
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: We're going to get away from that idea.
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: I'd probably sport a Randy Macho Man Savage boa as
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: I was coming down the ramp. Maybe some of those sunglasses.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Perfect. Bill, we saw one another at the UFC fights
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: the other night.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Is that your first rodeo?
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: You've been to a couple before. How did you like
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Saturday night?
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: I liked the last UFC you and I were together
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: at a little bit. I enjoyed myself. I had a
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: great time. I didn't think the fights were quite as
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: good or as entertaining this time around as they were
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: last time around. But I also didn't have WWE superstar
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: Cody Rhodes sitting next to me the last time we
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: were at UFC, and this time with his crazy street
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: fighter hair, he was sitting in front of Shelly and I.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was pretty coincidental, Chris.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: So for people who were at the event or maybe
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: saw the event street fighter uh coming out and Cody
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Rhodes plays Guile the Colonel Guile the character and he
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: was there in costume in character at the Delta Center
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: for some photo op or whatever, and happened to sit
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: right in.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Front of the voice of the youths.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Do you think he realized he too was in the
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: presence of a celebrity?
• 30:02
  Speaker 8: I don't think he did, but he was very, very
• 30:05
  Speaker 8: nice to us. He was outstanding, very nice, apologized for
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: all the ruckus he was causing, and then walked away
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: and said thanks for putting up with us.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Okay, nice guy.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: It's good to hear that, right, when guys that are
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: public figures are at least cordial?
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: To their fans and to the people.
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: They have to be around.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: He was great.
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: What did you think of the fight the other night?
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there were a lot of one-sided affairs,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: which leads for some exciting finishes, which I'm okay with.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: And the main event went exactly how I thought it
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: was going to go from, you know, finishing or lack
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: of finish standpoint, but technical back and forth, not a
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: lot of power on either of those young ladies.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: But that's fine.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: You know, it's cool to have– You know, again, to
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: be on the map in sports. And I know that
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: for everyone else it's about having professional teams. But for me,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: being so close to the combat sports space and knowing
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: that this is the fourth time in the last four
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: years that the UFC has decided to come to Salt
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Lake City, it means that we're a sports destination for
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: someone like me.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we've grown.
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: I mean, shoot, 25 years ago, you had never seen
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: anything like this. I tell people all the time, Sean,
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: we may not be Chicago or New York or Los Angeles,
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: but we are a legit big-time sports market now. The
• 31:27
  Speaker 8: Olympics are coming back. UFC is here every year. We've
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: got three, four major league sports franchises, maybe more on
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: the way, big-time collegiate athletics. I mean, this is a,
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: you know, this is just, we're in that tier just
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: below the Chicago's, the L.A. 's, the Miami's, the New
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: York's of the world when it comes to sports markets.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's where we're at, and I love it.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: And you just mentioned we've got a big-time team, a
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: couple of big-time college sports teams right now. Let's talk
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: about Utah, though, taking on Kansas this weekend. Bill, I
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: know it's your alma mater, but I feel like, With
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: what we've seen in Kansas so far, they kind of
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: stunk out loud against the power four teams that they've
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: actually played. And I'm trying to figure out the right
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: mindset to have about that because Utah is a lot better.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: But Kansas has athletes and they're well coached, or they
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: have a good coach. I don't know if this particular
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: squad is accepting that coaching all that well. I don't
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: know how to approach this game mentally from an expectation
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: standpoint because– The, like, 15-year-old in me is Utah's going
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: to smash these guys by 40. But it's dangerous to
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: have that mentality.
• 32:44
  Speaker 9: It is.
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: And let me say this, though, Sean.
• 32:47
  Speaker 9: You're right.
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: Kansas has not been good against the power four teams
• 32:50
  Speaker 8: in Missouri and Arizona State they've faced. They've got a
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: young-ish quarterback who's only started five games. Utah saw him
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: kind of as a wildcat sub last year. He's getting
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: a little bit better. I'll tell you what they do have, though,
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: is they've got good lines of scrimmage. The offensive line
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: is good, and the defensive line's got a couple of them.
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: One guy in particular, Leroy Harris, will probably play on Sundays.
• 33:13
  Speaker 8: So they're pretty good in the trenches. In fact, from
• 33:16
  Speaker 8: a trench standpoint, they might be the best team Utah
• 33:19
  Speaker 8: has faced so far, maybe even better than Arkansas. So
• 33:22
  Speaker 8: I'm not sure what to make of this game. You're right,
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: on paper, Utah looks like they're better. But Kansas also
• 33:28
  Speaker 8: has some skill guys, too. They've got a couple of
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: wide receivers who are pretty good. They've got Dylan Edwards,
• 33:33
  Speaker 8: who's a good running back. So, you know, I hesitate
• 33:37
  Speaker 8: to say, like, you know, like you, the fan in
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: you wants to say, yeah, beat them by 40. I
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: just conference games. The one thing that helps is Utah
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: coming off the bye week. and Kansas traveling west, playing
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: in some weather probably tomorrow night, maybe a little rain,
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: and then playing at a different time, maybe that helps.
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: I don't know, but I feel like Utah is the
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: better team, but there's some pieces about Kansas that could
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: give some problems.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we can agree on that at the very least,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: and you mentioned something interesting, you know, coming off a
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: bye week is supposed to help, and in so many
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: cases it does, but When you've got great momentum and
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: you don't need a bunch of rest because of obvious
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: injury problems, sometimes bye weeks for me are like, oh,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: you interrupted our flow a little bit. And, of course,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: this is Morgan Scali's first bye week, although bowl prep
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: is probably very similar from a coaching standpoint. And so
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I'm actually really curious to see how the team comes out.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: And I won't read too much into it either way,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: but how the team comes out after a bye week
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: because the routine very obviously was working the way that
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: he was doing things in the first four weeks. relative
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: to the level of competition, of course, was obviously working.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: And I wonder if he ends up being one of
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: those coaches who is always great after a bye week.
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: Well, he's really prepared. We know that. He's always got
• 34:57
  Speaker 8: a plan for everything. So I would guess so. To me,
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: there's very few times when a bye week hurts you.
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: I think, like, if you're really super healthy and it's
• 35:08
  Speaker 8: week eight and you're 7-0 and you're rolling, maybe you
• 35:11
  Speaker 8: don't want the bye week. But this one was early
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: enough on. They hadn't played a lot of great competition.
• 35:17
  Speaker 8: You're coming out of the bye week at home against
• 35:20
  Speaker 8: a team that's not great. I don't know that this
• 35:24
  Speaker 8: bye week is necessarily going to hurt them. Now, maybe
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: in three weeks you wish that you would have had
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: the bye week a little bit later to get some
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: rest or to heal up some injuries. But my guess
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: is tomorrow night they come out pretty dialed in and
• 35:39
  Speaker 8: pretty locked in on Kansas.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Whiteout at night. Weird juju with a whiteout at night, potentially.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: But the fan base is really fired up over the
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: hand-painted helmet. They did a great job of keeping those
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: things kind of quiet until the actual release.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: The players are fired up about it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: And obviously, this is part of what lends itself to
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: success in recruiting and greatness in college football right now.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: You've got to give the fans and the potential players
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: these little these little nuggets, these little carrots that are
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: dangled now and then in order to get enthusiastic over
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: what otherwise might be, you know, just kind of a
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: ho-hum Big 12 game.
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: I do think a whiteout at night, though, could look
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: pretty good. The entire stadium, the lights coming down, the
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: darkness above and everything like that, I think it.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Could look pretty good.
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: I just, yeah, for the crowd's sake, I hope Mother Nature,
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: you know, agrees with us for most of the game
• 36:41
  Speaker 8: tomorrow night. I'm not sure what that's going to look
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: like around kickoff yet, but I think it's going to
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: be a great atmosphere. Night games at Rice-Eccles, 99 straight sellouts,
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: hand-painted helmets. I think it's going to be a great atmosphere, and,
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: you know, it's a Big 12 game. We haven't seen
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: a Big 12 game at Rice-Eccles yet this year.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: You just mentioned the weather, and there is potential for,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: what is it, Hurricane Rachel to start showing her.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: To start showing her effects sometime tomorrow night. If that happens,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: there are some teams that are equipped, there are some
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: offenses that are equipped to kind of just keep things
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: rolling the same way that they have been. Of course,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Iowa State was supposed to be bad weather, and then
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: it didn't end up being as bad as I think
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: some of the forecast showed.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: If there is wild.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: And wet and wind, does that affect Utah or Kansas more?
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: I think both teams like to run the football. I
• 37:40
  Speaker 8: think it probably affects Kansas maybe a little bit more.
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: You're on the road. You've got a young quarterback who's
• 37:45
  Speaker 8: never played in an atmosphere like this before. He hasn't
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: played a team probably quite as good, although Missouri's pretty good.
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: They hammered Florida good, so maybe he has. But I
• 37:56
  Speaker 8: think the advantage is always to the home team if
• 37:59
  Speaker 8: you've got weather or outstanding circumstances. But I don't know
• 38:03
  Speaker 8: what we're going to get just yet. I mean, he
• 38:05
  Speaker 8: has had the propensity to fumble a little bit and
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: to throw some interceptions, so maybe that works in favor
• 38:11
  Speaker 8: of Utah.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: How good is Devin Dampier this year? I mean, when
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: we start to compare him with the rest of the
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the conference and even in the country, the
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: lists that are coming out are saying, you know, we
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: thought he'd be a top 25 quarterback. He's a top
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: 15 quarterback right now. And, look, there's plenty of football
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: left to play, but I love what we've seen from
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: him so far. How good is Devin Dampier relative to
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: his peers?
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: I think he's really good. I think he's a top
• 38:38
  Speaker 8: two or three quarterback in the Big 12 for sure
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: this year. I think we haven't really seen Devin have
• 38:45
  Speaker 8: to be Devin yet, though. Does that make sense? The
• 38:48
  Speaker 8: competition hasn't forced him to maybe– utilize his full skill
• 38:54
  Speaker 8: set yet to do those improvisations that we know he's
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: so very good at he hasn't had to put the
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: team on his shoulders for a good two minute drive
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: just yet he hasn't been putting i mean iowa state
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: stressed it just a little bit but i i think
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: devon's best football this year for sure sean is still
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: ahead of him though he's been really good so far.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: How many wins is WaySean Parker worth? I'm asking this
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: question because, you know, BYU loses their WaySean. LJ Martin
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: is an even more established version of way Sean and
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: they they lose him for four to six weeks and
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: I was first of all heaven forbid but I was
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: thinking about what what what does it look like for
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: a team that's otherwise really really good really prepared if
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: you lose a star player like that obviously quarterback we
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: we know what that looks like for the University of
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Utah when you lose a star quarterback from a couple
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: years back but A star running back, a top flight,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: an all-conference caliber running back, somebody like Wayshun Parker, how
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: many wins is he worth?
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: I'd say he's probably worth two wins a year at least.
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: I think he, you know, especially if he has a
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: performance like he did against Iowa State, I think it's
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: probably the same case down there. I think it's a
• 40:08
  Speaker 8: little bit different for them down in Provo because.
• 40:12
  Speaker 8: I don't know that you know as much about the
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: backups there as you do maybe some of the guys
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: at Utah, like a Daniel Bray or a Steven Chavez Soto.
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: And I don't know that BYU has the overall weaponry
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: around Bear Bachmeier, although the Glasker kid looks really, really good,
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: that Utah has around Devin Dampier. So I would say,
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: you know, Ray Sean's probably worth at least two wins
• 40:38
  Speaker 8: a year for you. I would tell you L.J. Martin
• 40:41
  Speaker 8: probably overall may be a little bit more important to
• 40:44
  Speaker 8: what BYU does down there. That's why it's going to
• 40:46
  Speaker 8: be interesting tonight to see how they– and sometimes, and
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: we know this, Sean, sometimes a backup running back gets
• 40:52
  Speaker 8: an opportunity and takes off and runs with it. But
• 40:56
  Speaker 8: you don't know until you have to put them into
• 40:58
  Speaker 8: that situation.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Bill Riley is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Show for another couple of minutes as we get ready
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: for Kansas versus Utah. Coming to Rice Echo Stadium tomorrow night.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Whiteout game, 8-15 kickoff. Should be a wild and woolly
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: and crazy atmosphere. And I've asked you some version of
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: this every single week. But now that we're starting to
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: see some wheat separated from the chaff and the best
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: teams in the conference maybe separating themselves or maybe not. And,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: of course, now you have to factor in some injuries
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: for certain squads When you're handicapping this Big 12 conference
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: and knowing the race and who misses who in the
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: regular season schedule, how accurate are a picture you think
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: you're putting together in your mind of the stretch run here?
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: I still think the top three are the top three. BYU,
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: Utah Tech are there. In what order, I'm not sure. Utah,
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: I think, has looked better overall than the other two.
• 41:56
  Speaker 8: But to be fair, BYU has played Arizona, who I
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: think is a pretty good team. Texas Tech has played Houston,
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: who I think is a pretty good team. I don't
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: think Utah's played anybody to that level yet, but I
• 42:06
  Speaker 8: think they've looked better overall in their season. I think
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: we're going to know a lot more in the next
• 42:12
  Speaker 8: two weeks or so. Tech doesn't look as good as
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: they were a year ago.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: They just don't.
• 42:17
  Speaker 8: They look like they're pretty good defensively. They look like
• 42:20
  Speaker 8: they're still trying to find themselves on offense. They were
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: struggling with Colorado. BYU just looks like they're solid selves,
• 42:27
  Speaker 8: but without L.J. Martin on offense and Isaiah Glasker's a
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: big loss on defense too.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: We'll see what happens.
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: I think Oklahoma State is probably better than I thought
• 42:36
  Speaker 8: they were before the season. I still think Arizona's really good.
• 42:40
  Speaker 8: I'm not sure how good Houston is. I think they're good,
• 42:44
  Speaker 8: but are they top 25, win the conference good? I'm
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: not sure about that. So I still think the top
• 42:50
  Speaker 8: three are the top three. and I think we'll get
• 42:53
  Speaker 8: better answers here in the coming weeks. But I'm not
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: changing anything just yet. I might put Oklahoma State. Maybe
• 42:59
  Speaker 8: I make it a top four with Oklahoma State as
• 43:01
  Speaker 8: well because they've got a road win at West Virginia,
• 43:04
  Speaker 8: and they've got the win over Oregon at home. They
• 43:07
  Speaker 8: probably have the best resume, but then they've got the
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: Tulsa loss. So you have to factor that in there too.
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: But I think Oklahoma State is probably maybe making that
• 43:17
  Speaker 8: top three or top four.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: What are we doing with Baylor, Bill?
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out what I say about the
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Baylor Bears.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: They're 4-1 overall.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: They got wins over Colorado and Arizona State. I don't
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: think those are even– I think those might be the
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: two bottom teams in the conference this year. But just
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: like Utah, you just have to play who's in front
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: of you. Close loss against Auburn in the first game
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: of the season. So what are we making of the
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Baylor Bears?
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: I think they're pretty good, too, Sean. I had them
• 43:46
  Speaker 8: as a Tier 3 team before the year. I've kind
• 43:48
  Speaker 8: of moved them up into my Tier 2. They just
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: absolutely annihilated it. I'm actually surprised ASU is where they are,
• 43:58
  Speaker 8: and they got beat as bad as they did last weekend.
• 44:01
  Speaker 8: But DJ Lagway looks like the real deal, and they're
• 44:06
  Speaker 8: not bad defensively either. Now, Utah doesn't have to see
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: them this year, so that's maybe an advantage. Utah not
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: having to go to Waco or have them come here.
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: But I think Baylor has solidified itself in that second tier,
• 44:18
  Speaker 8: and maybe I'm rating them low before because of where
• 44:20
  Speaker 8: I had them preseason. But, yeah, a two-point road loss
• 44:24
  Speaker 8: in the opener to not a spectacular, but a solid
• 44:27
  Speaker 8: Auburn team. Maybe I need to be a little bit
• 44:31
  Speaker 8: more dialed into Baylor.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Bill Riley for one more minute here on the Sean
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: O'Connell Show. I know it's football season, but basketball starts
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: to overlap, and we've got some exhibition examples here for
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: the– Running Utes, so far so good. Some flashes, some
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: nice things. Obviously newcomers and players that you want to
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: see develop even more, but early returns, what are your
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: initial thoughts on Alex Jensen's squad?
• 44:56
  Speaker 8: I think so far so good. I've watched him practice
• 44:59
  Speaker 8: a few times. It was interesting to see their effort
• 45:02
  Speaker 8: the other night against UNLV when you're actually playing somebody else.
• 45:06
  Speaker 8: They led the entire game, Sean. They led start to
• 45:09
  Speaker 8: finish the other night. Vegas made it a little close
• 45:11
  Speaker 8: in the second half, but I think.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: It's a good start.
• 45:14
  Speaker 8: I think they're certainly bigger and more physical up front.
• 45:18
  Speaker 8: I just, I like what I've seen so far from them.
• 45:21
  Speaker 8: And I like the fact that they've got three exhibition games.
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: You know, they're going to play, they played UNLV. They're
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: going to play Nevada next week on the road. And
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: then they'll finish up their exhibitions. These college basketball has
• 45:32
  Speaker 8: become pro basketball. Now there's exhibitions and not secret scrimmages anymore.
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: Then they'll have Oregon at home. So I, I think
• 45:39
  Speaker 8: we'll– and I talked to Martin Schiller. I ran into
• 45:41
  Speaker 8: him yesterday on campus, the assistant coach, and I think
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: they were overall pretty pleased with how the first exhibition
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: game went. So it's still, you know, again, you've got 10,
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: 11 new guys on the team, so you're still figuring
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: out– Alex and his staff are figuring out rotations and
• 45:56
  Speaker 8: things like that. But I think it's easier to do
• 45:59
  Speaker 8: that in a game situation, exhibition game situation, than it
• 46:03
  Speaker 8: is maybe in practice. Again, early returns, one exhibition game,
• 46:08
  Speaker 8: and I've seen them at practice. I think the product
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: is going to be a lot better this year than
• 46:12
  Speaker 8: it was last year.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: I should probably already know this. Does the voice of
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: the Utes adhere to the fan and team dress code
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: on a night whiteout?
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: I don't usually think about it, but tomorrow night maybe
• 46:29
  Speaker 8: I'll go with the– the black pan, the black slacks
• 46:33
  Speaker 8: and the white top, or maybe I'll just go with
• 46:35
  Speaker 8: the all white look to it. Maybe I'll, I'll see
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: if I can, you know, find a good humor man
• 46:40
  Speaker 8: and maybe, you know, borrow his uniform and slap a
• 46:43
  Speaker 8: Utah logo on the chest or something like that. I don't, yeah,
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: but yeah, I hadn't given it much thought because, you know,
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: I'm not really out and among the folks in the stands,
• 46:53
  Speaker 8: but maybe I'll throw a little all white on tomorrow night.
• 46:56
  Speaker 8: What about you and the media core?
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I always find myself, because, you know, we're the
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: home of the Utes, and when.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: You're a media member, when you're on a press pass, you're,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I guess, technically not supposed to be wearing, like, Utah gear,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: but I do every game because, you know, we're the
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: home of the Utes. So, yeah, I think I'll have
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: to do my best to find, well, I don't look.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: Great in white.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: You know, black is more slimming, but I'll figure something
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: out to try to join the crowd.
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: By the way, you're plugged into the world. What were
• 47:31
  Speaker 8: the returns on UFC? Were Dana and his guys happy
• 47:35
  Speaker 8: with their appearance in Salt Lake City?
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: They were.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: There was some, like that Peyton Talbot kid that you
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: saw in the co-main event. He's really put himself in
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: the conversation for a title shot sooner than later. They
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: figured out some of the things they were hoping to
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: figure out with that card. The The main event being
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: a title fight when neither of them, it was a
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: vacated title, so it was a little anticlimactic. Nobody had
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: to beat the current champ in order to win that.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: But Natalia Silva said she wants to remain very active
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: and defend even one more time this year and then
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: three times next year. So they always love hearing stuff
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: like that. We get kind of the point we were
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: making before. We get a lot of praise as a
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: general sports and fan public when events like the UFC
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: come to town because they were happy with the support,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: with the merchandise sales, with all that stuff.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: And I think.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Barring any big surprises, I think that it means they'll
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: come back sooner than later.
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what I was more concerned about, the ticket sales,
• 48:45
  Speaker 8: the way it went off. The crowd seemed good. There's
• 48:47
  Speaker 8: always empty seats, but the crowd seemed pretty good, especially.
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: And you tell me, I didn't feel like there was
• 48:52
  Speaker 8: a big, you know, the main event, as you said,
• 48:54
  Speaker 8: but it didn't feel like, you know, there was a big,
• 48:57
  Speaker 8: there wasn't a Gaethje or somebody like that on the
• 49:00
  Speaker 8: card that, you know, is really a household name that
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: might have brought some more people in.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that turnout for that card. is probably
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: better than what they deserved, if we're being honest. If
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: it was that card in Vegas, their returns would have
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: been poor. But because it was Salt Lake and you know, people,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: it's still a novelty for some folks. And, you know,
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: people come in from Idaho and Wyoming and all that
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: stuff all the time.
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: It was a good turnout, good crowd.
• 49:27
  Speaker 9: Excellent.
• 49:29
  Speaker 8: I'll look forward to seeing what the fit looks like
• 49:32
  Speaker 8: tomorrow night, John.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks, Bill.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see you up there tomorrow.
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: Thanks, Sean.
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  Speaker 10: Bridgman tied for first at 11-under.
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  Speaker 2: If you're out there listening and you heard that we
• 54:36
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  Speaker 2: I have to regrettably inform you they actually didn't even
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  Speaker 2: last until 1148.
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  Speaker 3: I had set the over-under.
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  Speaker 2: At 1148 at 1145 cynthia who's here on site with
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  Speaker 4: Chad.
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  Speaker 3: Chad. Like, by a hair. I mean, it was pushing
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  Speaker 4: It was incredible.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what you're up against.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Two players on the Utes injury report. Canai Lopez, out.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about Semih Talonga and Carson Kalfusi both being
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  Speaker 2: and Cannon DeVries. DeVries has been really good for them,
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  Speaker 2: by the way. Punt returner, defensive back, he's been awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Cannon DeVries has been downgraded. Raider Damuni has been downgraded
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  Speaker 2: from doubtful to out. DeVries went from probable to questionable,
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: then doubtful. So that's tough because... He serves two roles
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  Speaker 2: for that BYU football team. And I think the more
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: impactful one is he's an excellent return man. And obviously
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: last year's return man in a really good year for
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: BYU is no longer on the team. So you're going
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: down to number three in the punt return hierarchy, so
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: to speak. There'll be another report that comes out right
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: before kickoff tonight. But BYU having some bad luck right
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: now with the injuries and the social media conversation around this,
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: by the way, has already ramped up between the Utah
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: contingent and the BYU contingent in a hilarious manner. And remember,
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  Speaker 2: when you're talking about Twitter and you're talking about message boards,
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  Speaker 2: it's always like only the the fringe five percent of
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: these fan bases but uh people people utah fans just
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: being like see now you know what it feels like
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: byu fans being like oh you guys don't know what
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: it's like to have a great team and have these
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: injuries pile up and that watching that conversation happen back
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: and forth uh if you're a ute fan don't dunk
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: on anybody for having injuries okay don't invite that bad
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: karma that bad juju onto your own team Yeah, OC,
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: when it comes to a team with high expectations especially,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: but any football team, you are healthy until you're not.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: So let's just be careful with the trash talk there.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: But it is funny to see some BYU fans saying,
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  Speaker 2: you don't know what it's like.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: It's like, hello, two years ago.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: It's like we know exactly what this feels like. And look,
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: it's really painful and it's really impactful and it's really damaging.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: In the years where you have the high expectations, right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you think you're going to be a
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: seven-win football team and you get four important injuries over
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: the course of a season and end up being a
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: six-win football team.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, eh, okay.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: When you think you're a conference championship contender, and on
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: paper you are, and then the injuries start to pile
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  Speaker 2: up and take you out of that conversation, it's devastating.
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  Speaker 10: Don't even go to a bowl game like the Utes
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  Speaker 10: in 2024?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's terrible.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Not only does it It alters the course of your
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: program's history when that type of thing happens. It changes
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: the job situation for coaches, coordinators especially, when that type
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: of thing happens. I mean, you've heard me talk about
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: it before, I will die on the hill, of Andy
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Ludwig was forced out because of injuries that he had
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: zero control over. Like, because he wasn't able to to
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: magic his way into a productive offense using a second, third, fourth,
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  Speaker 2: then fifth string quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, what are we doing here? You know?
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: And I don't think there's any danger of that happening
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  Speaker 2: at BYU. They already lost their defensive coordinator last year.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Aaron Roderick is going to have to figure out like
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: how much he can run bear Bachmeier and still keep
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: bear Bachmeier relatively healthy. That is now the question of,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: for Brigham Young University because the first four games of
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: the season, BYU, or excuse me, the first three games
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: of the season, BYU basically didn't design anything for Bear
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  Speaker 2: Bachmeier to run. Didn't ask him to run. And he
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: didn't have to run because they beat up everybody, including Arizona,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: without Bear having to pull off any individual heroics in
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: the run game especially. And then last week against TCU,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: it was like, dude, I don't know why you can't pass.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know why you finished a game with 62
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: yards through the air. I know bad weather affects things
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: like that, but I promise you there have been hundreds
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: and hundreds of wet games played in college football where
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: a quarterback goes for like 175 instead of 250, right?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: The fact that Bear Bachmeier had 62 yards through the
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: air and they were like, all right, well, just do
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: it with your legs. and that's what got them the victory,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: that's great that you have that player.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: It really is.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: But when it's a necessity thing that your quarterback run
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: this much, look what's happening with West Virginia. Michael Hawkins Jr.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: is already starting to show the signs of overuse. When
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: he's the guy who has to give you 200 yards
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: of rushing offense.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Or he's got to give you 100 of the 200
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: yards of rushing offense, and he's your quarterback who's got
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: to try to figure out how to dial it in
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: on the passing game, it's.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: Already starting to rattle and shake a little bit.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: And that's what Aaron Roderick, who I think is totally underrated,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: he's never talked about as a quarterback developer despite what
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: he's done with his past three. I think that Aaron
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Roderick is in a really, really difficult situation right now
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: where he's got to figure out what the correct balance
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: is with letting Bear Bachmeier carry the load in the
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: run game because these next four weeks, you have to
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: somehow find not a full replacement for L.J.
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  Speaker 3: Martin because you're not going to.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: Special players, you just don't get to plug somebody else
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: in there and say, all right, now you're L.J.
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  Speaker 4: Martin, and L.J. is special.
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  Speaker 2: Bear Bachmeier, if L.J., if you account for, you know, 100,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: 125 yards of offense out of L.J.
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  Speaker 3: Martin every single.
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  Speaker 2: Week, Now you're going to tell Bear, hey, I need
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  Speaker 2: 65 of those from you on the ground. And he's
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  Speaker 2: going to be more than willing, and he's physically absolutely capable,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: but you don't get to then say, all right, well,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Sione Moa, now you are the next best thing.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: And I think Sione Moa is an awesome player. He's
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: also gone.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: So, all right, you better hope that this Eka kid
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: and this Journey Tonga kid are everything that they showed
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: they could potentially be. That's a tough spot.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 10: Yeah, thankfully for BYU, they don't really have injuries with
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 10: their wide receivers, so possibly that could be something. But
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 10: we all know this. When you are forced to be one-dimensional,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 10: defenses take advantage of that. So it's going to be fascinating. OC,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 10: what I wonder is, obviously not having Glasker and Martin
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 10: in this game and beyond with Martin, possibly beyond with Glasker,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 10: those are huge blows. Those are potentially your best player
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 10: on both sides of the ball, if not your second
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 10: or third best player with Isaiah.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: Glasker, right?
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 10: Now we've got Damuni and probably DeVries. Damuni's certainly out.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 10: DeVries is doubtful. He's probably out as well. Does this
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 10: start to make you doubt the outcome of tonight's game,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 10: or do you feel like they still got it against
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 10: Iowa State? Because that's a lot of injuries to key players.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: I said, I think, on the show yesterday, I'm now
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: expecting BYU to have a real problem and potentially lose
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: this game. I want to back off that a little bit,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: and thank goodness I have three hours a day on
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: a microphone to really flesh these things out.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: But I think that for Iowa State.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: To beat a team like BYU, you're not going to
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: do it with Jalen Rayner throwing the ball all over
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: the yard. Even if BYU's defensive backfield is being thinned
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: out a little bit without Damuni and maybe a limited
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: or absent DeVries, I don't believe in Jalen Rayner's arm.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: I just think he's not a good passing quarterback. I
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: think Iowa State kind of knows that. And I think
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: that they're going to try to run the ball to
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: victory at Lavelle Edwards Stadium to a certain extent. You
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: want to balance it out, obviously, but the best version
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: of Iowa State is using Aiden Flora, using Jalen Rayner's legs,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: and figuring out if you can make BYU start to
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: cheat into the box a little bit and then set
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: up some easy throws, some slants and some intermediate routes
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: because he's not the guy who's going to drop back
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: and he's going to hit you on a 40-yard dime
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: or like a deep fade. He just doesn't have that
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: arm talent. So BYU is good against the run. They've
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: been really good against the run. And Iowa State has
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: not yet played a defense this good against the run
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: except for, Utah. And how did they run against Utah?
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, people don't like it when you say, well,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: BYU is just as good as Utah at stopping the run.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: They're more closely comparable against the run than anyone else
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: that Iowa State has faced this year. And against Utah,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: Iowa State was only able to put up 111 rushing yards.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Aiden Flora had 54 of those. Jalen Rayner had 27.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: Now, Flora.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Because Utah got ahead so fast in that game, Flora
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: was underused. And if they're smart, even if BYU jumps
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: out to a significant lead, even if BYU is 21-0
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: at half, you still have to let Aiden Flora Cook.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: You've got to let that kid work. He is your
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: best offensive player. And this is something that is so
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: ridiculous that we get away from in college football.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: People start looking at the.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Clock about, I don't know, 30 minutes too early. Be like, hey,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: we've got to score on this drive.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: I'm going to start passing. I'm going to start passing.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: Well, your best chance to score if you're Iowa State
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: is to give you like a 60-40 rush to pass contrast.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: And they got away from that against Utah. So Aiden
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: Flora only had 13 carries against the Utes. That ended
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: up being a gift to Utah. Because would they still
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: have stopped him? Would they still have limited him well
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: below his season averages? Absolutely yes, I think so. They're
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: a better run defense than what Iowa State has been
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: able to do against these other teams. But even against Iowa,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: who's a solid team, Aiden Flora rushed for more per average,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: and he got 19 carries against Iowa. You've got to
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: give him 23, 24 touches in this game. You probably
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: have to let him throw a pass again. You've probably
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: got to design some direct snap stuff to him and
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: make BYU figure him out and your athletic quarterback out.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: This is the biggest.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Game of the weekend for the Big 12 Conference because
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: BYU is right now a flag bearer. They are right
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: now carrying the torch. They are right now the highest
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: ranked team in the conference. They are supposed to be
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: in the conference championship game according to national expectations. And
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: they're supposed to be undefeated heading into the Notre Dame
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: contest next week. If tonight goes awry, it's obviously terrible
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: for BYU. By extension, it's actually a little bit of
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: a hiccup for the Big 12 conference. and the narrative
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: around the Big 12 Conference. Now, of course, the alternative storyline,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: if BYU falls off and Utah continues to rise, is
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: everyone just says, oh, yeah, well, it's the Utes and
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: not the Cougs that are the flag bearers and the
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: torchbearers for this conference. It's now Texas Tech and Houston
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: and Utah. even if BYU falls off a little bit. And,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: you know, they're a good team. They're a well-coached team, BYU.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: But very few teams can survive significant injuries to star players.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: We talked about this earlier in the week when we
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: found out that L.J. Martin was going to miss significant time.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: You start looking around the country and find me how
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: many teams, there's probably six or seven teams that can
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: have a top five offensive player and a top five
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: defensive player go down and not have it affect their
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: win-loss total. I mean, nobody is that deep in college
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: football anymore. ESPN just wrote an article about the quarterback drain,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: and thankfully for BYU, it's not an injury to the quarterback,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: but it's your top two running backs, one of whom
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: is the best overall player on your football team, and
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: it's Isaiah Glasker, who's got NFL draft potential. They're lucky
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: because– well, they're not lucky. They're fortunate to have brought
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: in Kedu Lawave in the offseason transfer portal. You guys
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: hear me talk about him every week. You're probably sick
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: of it, but he's, I think, better than Glasker is.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: But the point stands, right? If we were talking about
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: Texas Tech– It would be the same point if we
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: were talking about Utah. It would be the same point
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: if we're talking about Houston. The same thing if you're
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: talking about anybody except for Ohio State.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: Texas, Oregon, Alabama, Georgia, Miami.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: You're talking about you can't survive losing three of your
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: top five players or two of your top ten players even.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: It's just a tough thing. And tonight is scary for BYU.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: I expect Iowa State to make this a close game if...
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: They don't panic even when falling behind because it's going
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: to be a crazy, raucous atmosphere at BYU. It's a
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: night game down there at Lavelle Edwards Stadium. Everyone's going
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: to be hyper-caffeinated and over-sugared, right? And it's one of
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: the last good-weather games you're guaranteed for the rest of
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: the year.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: They're going to show up.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: It's going to be 65,000 strong. And Iowa State is
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: walking into a really, really tough environment right But if
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: they do what they are good at, they can make
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: this a game against BYU. Iowa is on the road
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: at Washington tonight. Iowa is a ranked team. Washington is
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: a favorite here. It's top 20 Iowa versus Washington. Washington
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: are two-and-a-half point favorites in this one.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: Florida State-Louisville is.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: Kind of an interesting game. That's also happening tonight.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to give too much
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: credit to Wyoming and San Jose State, but there's a
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: crucial one happening in Logan as well. Utah State is
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: five and a half point favorites in a Pac-12 conference
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: contest against Washington State. Washington State has been bad. Washington
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: State has looked terrible. Utah State is also one in
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: four this year with their lone win coming against Troy.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: They look pretty good against Washington. They look pretty bad
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: against the University of Utah. They got beat up by
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: Boise State, who's the top group of six team in
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: the country. And now Utah State is in desperate need
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: of a conference win against Washington State. They are five
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: and a half point favorites. They still have a big
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: time quarterback problem. They've got a big time offensive problem.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: Their defense is going to have to win them this
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: game like they're going to have to win them pretty
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: much every game this year. But that's just your Friday
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: night slate. I mean, we are jam-packed. This is a
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: loaded-up Friday night. Top 25 matchup, or excuse me, a
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: top 20 team in Iowa matching up with a conference
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: opponent in Washington. Iowa State, who is, look, not great,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: but at least solid against a injury-depleted BYU team in
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: a really tough spot, a potential look-ahead spot for the Cougars. and,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: of course, Utah State also in action. It's a sweet
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: slate of college football games this weekend. We're going to
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: talk more about it with Lee Sterling, who's going to
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: join us in about 20 minutes here on the show.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 10: It's the perfect night for the college football to be
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 10: stacked on a Friday night, too, because this is a
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 10: rare off day for MLB playoffs in October because most
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 10: of the division series are wrapped up. The only game
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 10: left is tomorrow night with the White Sox and Guardians
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 10: game five. It's not a Thursday or a Sunday, right?
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 10: So there's no NFL to compete with. So this is
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 10: great timing for college football to have this kind of
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 10: a loaded, for a Friday night anyway, loaded slate.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: It should be a lot of fun.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: And then on Saturday, Arizona-West Virginia is a really interesting game.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: That one is in Morgantown. I still think Arizona is
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: a really high-quality team. I still think West Virginia has
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: got some potential. They are hosting the Wildcats. and Arizona's
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: a three-point favorite in that one. North Carolina is always
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: going to get a little bit of attention. Pittsburgh is
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: finally in the rankings after their coach basically had to
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: shame them into the rankings. Texas A & M, Missouri,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: Indiana at Nebraska, and then when you get a little
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: bit later in the day, UCLA, Oregon, two top 25
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: teams right now.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: Bob Chesney has things humming.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: At UCLA, Dan Lanning and Oregon are not nearly what
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: I thought they were going to be this year. This
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: is at Autzen, but Oregon's 11.5-point favorites?
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know, man.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, Stanford at Notre Dame.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: I want to give this one a shout-out because former
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: Utah safety Steve Tate, his son Bo is at Stanford
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: He's a backup linebacker. He's a special teamer.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: Let's go, Bo.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: And he was named special teams captain for this one
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: in South Bend. So pretty cool. Pretty cool for the
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: Tate family, who Instagram has informed me they're all headed
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: out to Notre Dame to watch this one, as you
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: should be.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 10: How great would that be to have your son, you
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 10: go to that kind of cathedral of college football, right,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 10: iconic place, and have your son. Your son playing on
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 10: that field.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty cool. That's really cool for that family.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: And Notre Dame is 38-and-a-half-point favorites, so that might be
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: the end of the feel-good for the Tates.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: But at least you're there, right? Hey, classic look-ahead spot.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: Look-ahead spot for Notre Dame also.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, come on now.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: Because they got BYU next week, and that's an unfamiliar
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: road trip.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 10: Also, rivalry game, Stanford's getting up for that every time.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: Okay, give them a chance.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame-BYU, it's a rivalry game for world religions and
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: not only the teams themselves.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's an interesting one.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: Houston at Kansas State is another game this weekend that
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: I think tells us a lot more about both teams. Now,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: Kansas State has come back down to earth a little
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: bit with that loss to Cincinnati. But, again, like what–
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: We're going to know by week eight what that loss
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: actually meant because we're going to know more. We're going
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: to have Cincinnati a little bit more figured out by then.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: But maybe Cincinnati is just a really good team.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: Cincinnati right now is four and one.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: Their loss coming to Arizona, and they got beat up
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: by Arizona, but there are some games, there are these
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: outlier games that as a college football player and as
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: a college football coach, you try to desperately avoid where
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: you just don't show up. That's what happened with Cincinnati.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: That wasn't Arizona just being like, we're that much better
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: than you. We are four touchdowns better than you. That
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: was Cincinnati just laying an egg. Now, maybe Arizona is
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: a better team, but they're not four touchdowns better than Cincinnati.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: And now we've got Cincinnati and West Virginia, Cincinnati and
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: Kansas State. We've got these things to look at to
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: let us know, all right, I think this might be
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: an informative game. Kansas State, with the loss to Cincinnati,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: kind of took themselves out of the rankings conversation, but
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: they can put themselves right back in if they can
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: beat Houston.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: And, of course, this one is at home.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: Day game.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: For Kansas State, and Houston is not unbeatable. Houston is not,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: you know, otherworldly. I think Houston's really good, and their
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: only loss is, if these things actually exist in college football,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: a quality loss because they only fell to Texas Tech
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: by literally getting stopped on the last play of the game.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: By like an inch.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: It was, I mean, I honestly thought that if they
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: had called, if they had, The replay review, you didn't
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: really get a super solid view of Connor Wegman's legs.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: And whether his shin was down or his knee was
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: down or whatever was down as he's reaching across the
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: goal line. The call on the field was that he
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: was short of the goal line. And I think ultimately
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: that was correct. But if for some reason the referee
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: had been focused more on the ball and not where
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: his legs were. and had said, yes, that's a score,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: I don't think they could have overturned it. That's how
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: close it was.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 4: It's so true.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: It reminds me of, like, remember last year's Game 7
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: of the World Series where we were all like, did
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: the Blue Jays.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: Just win the game, or was he actually out?
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 10: If the call on the field was that the Blue
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 10: Jays won the game, that he got a part of
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 10: the plate before he was tagged on that last play
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 10: of the ninth inning there, I think that the call
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 10: would have stood.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: But because the call was the opposite, that's why the
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: call stood.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: It was that kind of a bang-bang play in football, too,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: in that houston texas tech game so houston kansas state
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: interesting game just if you're a football fan but an
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: important game as the big 12 conference shuffles itself and
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: figures out who's a real contender a pretender or whatever
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: and then of course georgia alabama is i mean a
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: college football playoff preview potentially that's number two versus number
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: six in the current rankings USC's on the road at
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: Beaver Stadium in a Penn State whiteout game.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: If Penn State wins this game, na.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 7: Na, na, na, na, na, hey, hey, hey, goodbye, Lincoln Riley.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: Like, 70 million buyout or not. You cannot go and
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: lose to Penn State after already being a team that
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: people started to feel really good about, and then getting
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: beat up by an Oregon team who is maybe good,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: but not 100%. I mean, Penn State, that's a scary one.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: And USC maybe doesn't pull the trigger on Lincoln Riley
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: immediately after that, but they've still got Ohio State, Indiana,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: and UCLA on the schedule. So this is a must,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: must win for USC. All right, we've got to take
• 1:20:29
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• 1:20:32
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• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears legend, Hall of Famer as both an
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: NFL player and as a coach has passed away at
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: 86 years old. Won a Super Bowl championship, obviously. More
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  Speaker 2: than that, legendary. Like, he's an icon. You don't have
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  Speaker 2: to talk about him as the greatest coach of all time.
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  Speaker 2: It's just he was one of these individuals that as
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  Speaker 2: a tight end in the NFL put up some big
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  Speaker 2: big numbers.
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  Speaker 3: And then he went on to coach.
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  Speaker 2: And became the iconic head of an iconic team and
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  Speaker 2: doing that, finding a way to manage the personalities that
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  Speaker 2: he had to manage and pointing everybody in the right
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  Speaker 2: direction in an era of the NFL where, you know,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: the inmates were running the asylum a little bit was
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  Speaker 2: maybe just as impressive as anything else he did as
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: a player. So Mike Ditka passes away and the NFL
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: loses one of its most iconic symbols, a guy that,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: you know, just the, The vest and the mustache and
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: the sunglasses, you don't even have to say the name
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: and you know what those things symbolize. How many NFL
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: coaches or players have been the subject of pop culture,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: like iconic Saturday Night Live skits and things like that?
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: The man is a legend. So rest in peace to
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: Mike Ditka. I believe, by the way, I think he
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: has a granddaughter that's a local or was a local
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: at one point here in Utah. if I'm not mistaken.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: So a shout out to the whole Mike Ditka family who,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: you know, even when you know it's coming, even if
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: people are old, it's never good to say goodbye to
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: grandpa or great uncle or whatever.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: Rest in peace, Mike Ditka. Obviously another local connection.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 10: He coached the BYU great quarterback, Jim McMahon in that
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 10: soup on that Superbowl team. So, I mean, a couple,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 10: a couple of local connections there with the 85 bears. Um,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 10: and he, you're right about just the pop culture references.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 10: I remember, remember the discount double check commercial with the,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 10: with the Dick impersonators with Aaron Rogers, the state farm
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 10: commercial is like, like you don't get that if you're
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 10: not an icon.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 10: And it was the look, it was obviously the legendary
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 10: team that still lives on. And now 40 years later
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 10: is still talked about as one of the greatest teams
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 10: of all time. I mean, just, Just a true legend
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 10: in every sense of the word. Even if, like you said,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 10: even if he's not in the greatest of all time conversation,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 10: he's in a different conversation because of how iconic he
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 10: was and the kind of legend that he was.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: Five-time Pro Bowler, two-time first-team All-Pro, one-time NFL champ before
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: they called it the Super Bowl as a player, one-time
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl champ with those 85 Bears, two-times Coach of
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: the Year, 1961 Rookie of the Year. Professional football writers,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: coach of the year twice. Yeah, I mean, sporting news
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: coach of the year, sporting news rookie of the year,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: coach of the year a couple of times. The guy
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: was just, he's an icon. So rest in peace. By
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: the way, tight end numbers in his playing days. He
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: had a 12-year career. He scored 43 touchdowns. And actually
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: his rookie year was the most productive year of his
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: entire career. He was a 1,000-yard receiver as a rookie
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: tight end in 1961. I didn't even know that any
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: tight ends got over 1,000 yards like pre-' 90s. Before you
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: just said that, that's crazy.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, seriously.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: It's pretty crazy.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: He had 12 touchdowns that year, and then the most
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: he scored after that was eight.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 9: Wow.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: Twelve scores, five, eight, five, and.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: Two for four straight years, then three, then zero, then
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: one touchdown for Dallas in 71, and one touchdown for
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: Dallas in 1972.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: Did he win.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 10: The Super Bowl as a player with the Cowboys, or
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 10: did he miss the Roger Staubach-era Super Bowls?
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: It seemed like he was close to that.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: I think he did win the Super Bowl as a
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: player with the— It was an NFL championship.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 10: NFL championship. Okay, so no Super Bowl, but NFL championship. Yeah,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 10: I mean, just a great champion, too. That's why he's
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 10: a Hall of Famer, absolutely.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: What year was that? Crazy stuff.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: You never like to see the sports icons going away.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 3: What's the update, James?
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  Speaker 10: So, yeah, playing in Japan, the Bay Current Championship, second
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  Speaker 10: round already in the books. Third round starts tonight for
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  Speaker 10: the Bay Current players. Keith Mitchell, Jacob Bridgman are your
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  Speaker 10: leaders at 11-under. Max Homa is in a group tied
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  Speaker 10: for third at 9-under. Tied for 7th at 8-under are
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  Speaker 10: And then tied for 10th to round out the top 10.
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  Speaker 10: At 7-under, you got Ricky Castillo, Jordan Smith, Michael Brennan.
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  Speaker 10: Tony Finau is tied for 30th at 3-under. Xander Shoffley
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 10: also tied for 30th. So, I mean, good showing for Tony,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 10: especially compared to what's been a really down year for him.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 10: It's nice to see him playing the weekend. which technically
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  Speaker 2: By the way, Mike Ditka, Super Bowl champion with the
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  Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys as a player in the 1971 season, assistant
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  Speaker 2: coach Super Bowl championship with the Dallas Cowboys in 1977.
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  Speaker 2: The NFL championship in 1963 was with the Bears. And then,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: of course, head coach of the 1985 Bears.
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  Speaker 10: So, I mean, he's got to be one of the
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 10: rare people to win as a player, head coach, and
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 10: assistant coach. Like, I i can't imagine there's that many
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 10: players that have done that and an nfl championship to boot.
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  Speaker 2: picks for that as well. ParamountSports.com, 800-400-9741. Lee Sterling joins
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  Speaker 2: us again to talk about some of the picks of
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  Speaker 2: the week.
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  Speaker 5: Hi, Lee.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, how are you?
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  Speaker 9: You know what's crazy?
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  Speaker 6: I was just hearing the news and watching the win.
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  Speaker 6: How does Israel Bonfim play? Missed weight by seven and
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  Speaker 6: a half pounds.
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  Speaker 2: That is so unprofessional, and you're just not trying at
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  Speaker 2: that point. Now, if it's a super late notice fight,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to make sure that your manager negotiates that in,
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  Speaker 2: catch weight opportunity, which the UFC doesn't like to give you.
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  Speaker 4: But that's a bad, bad sign for Israel Bonfim.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 6: And I was going to go against him, too. So,
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  Speaker 6: you know, let him sit in the sweat box for
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  Speaker 6: a few hours, see if he can get even closer,
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  Speaker 6: and then I'll put even more money on Prado.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the picks of the week here, Lee. Well,
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  Speaker 2: first of all, staying hot from last week.
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  Speaker 3: Yep. 3-1-1 on the picks you gave us last week.
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  Speaker 2: You got a really interesting slate of college football this weekend,
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  Speaker 2: and we're starting off hot with a top six matchup. Alabama, Georgia, Bama,
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  Speaker 2: one-and-a-half-point favorites in this barn burner.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I just checked the weather, and it looks
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  Speaker 6: like we find maybe a light drizzle during the game,
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  Speaker 6: but that field drained super well. And, you know, these
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  Speaker 6: two teams could end up meeting again in the SEC
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  Speaker 6: championship game or the college football playoffs. It's tough to
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  Speaker 6: go against top-tier quarterbacks. But you've got to pick one
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  Speaker 6: to go against here. Maybe it's Gunnar Stockton. And as
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  Speaker 6: good as he is, I mean, he's a winner. He
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  Speaker 6: could win a national championship. He is that much of
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  Speaker 6: a leader. A lot of times on third and seven,
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  Speaker 6: he'll make the throw that moves the change. He'll dive
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  Speaker 6: for the first down. His team feeds off him. And
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  Speaker 6: the defense is really good. They're linebackers.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if I've ever seen linebackers that can
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  Speaker 6: pursue sideline to sideline like these two guys. But The
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  Speaker 6: difference here is I think injuries to their running backs.
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  Speaker 6: Top two guys might be on a pitch count, and
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  Speaker 6: maybe one or two of their top three receivers may
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  Speaker 6: miss this game. So I think Alabama has more quick
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  Speaker 6: strike capability on offense and defense. Yeah, they give up
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  Speaker 6: more yards and points, but they also have eight interceptions,
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  Speaker 6: and they've taken two to the house. I just think
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  Speaker 6: that Alabama at home with Keelan Russell, quarterback, just more dangerous.
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  Speaker 6: They can go to the house. on any play on you.
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  Speaker 6: I like Alabama. Should be an instant classic here, 30-27.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to save the BYU and Utah games best
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  Speaker 2: for last here, so we'll get to some NFL picks.
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  Speaker 3: The Rams are three-point favorites against the Bills.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: The Rams, we talked about the Rams.
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  Speaker 2: We crowned the Rams before the season started as the
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  Speaker 2: eventual Super Bowl champions. They still haven't had Aaron Donald
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: and Myles Garrett playing together. That will happen eventually. They
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  Speaker 2: are three-point favorites against the Bills team that also has
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl expectations. Are we getting a preview of what
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  Speaker 2: we might see in the last game of the season?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I think it could happen here. I do like
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  Speaker 6: the setup, though, for Buffalo coming off seven turnovers the
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  Speaker 6: last two weeks. Rams defensive unit shows so many different looks,
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  Speaker 6: but Josh Allen is seen. He just needs to be
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  Speaker 6: a little more careful with the ball. If they were
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  Speaker 6: coming in 4-0, I think the Rams might knock them
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  Speaker 6: off here, but I think they have a chip on
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  Speaker 6: their shoulder a lot of times when teams travel. Awful
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  Speaker 6: loss if they're a top-tier team. They get a couple
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  Speaker 6: guys back, especially on the defense. They're a dangerous team here.
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  Speaker 6: So I like Buffalo. Last team with a ball wins.
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  Speaker 6: Give me the bills here, 34-30.
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  Speaker 4: Seahawks, Niners.
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  Speaker 2: Niners are my team, Lee. Tread carefully here. Seahawks are
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  Speaker 2: favorites at home.
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  Speaker 6: Well, we had them last week, and as long as
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  Speaker 6: they don't take any more injuries, I think they should
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  Speaker 6: be okay. This is a great setup. San Francisco was
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  Speaker 6: coming off the short week last year in the playoffs,
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  Speaker 6: had to travel to Seattle in the NFC divisional round
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  Speaker 6: and got blown out 41-6. I think they have the
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  Speaker 6: better quarterback right now. I think Brock Purdy's playing the
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  Speaker 6: best football of any quarterback in the league, and I
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 6: think Sam Darnold, something's missing right now. He's not clicking
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  Speaker 6: on all cylinders, and Seattle, here's a tell, tells you
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  Speaker 6: how bad things are at running back. They were thinking about,
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  Speaker 6: and not just for a minute, until they brought him
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  Speaker 6: in for a physical on signing Joe Mixon. Are you
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  Speaker 6: kidding me here? I like San Francisco. I think they
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 6: exact that revenge here, 27-23.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go. That's what we need.
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  Speaker 2: The game of the week, Boise State, who I think
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  Speaker 2: is the best group of six team we have in
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  Speaker 2: the country. They're six-and-a-half-point favorites in a conference matchup against
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  Speaker 2: Fresno State.
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  Speaker 6: Yep, they want to get that game for free. This
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  Speaker 6: has become a big game all of a sudden. So
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 6: two teams playing at a high level, you want to
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I really wanted your help with this one. We've been
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  Speaker 2: talking about it kind of all week and certainly a
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  Speaker 2: lot today. Big injury news at BYU. They're down their
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  Speaker 2: top two running backs. One of their best linebackers is out.
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  Speaker 2: Raider DeMooney they thought was going to be a starting safety.
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  Speaker 2: He's yet to play any significant time this year. BYU,
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  Speaker 2: ten-and-a-half-point favorites. It's a night game tonight at Lavelle Edwards
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  Speaker 2: Stadium against an Iowa State team that, after getting beat
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  Speaker 2: up by Utah, showed a lot of life last week
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  Speaker 2: and ran all over the place. Ten-and-a-half feels big to me, Lee.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted your thoughts.
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  Speaker 6: I feel the same way here. You know, Bear Bachmeier,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, the kid has heart. Running, pulling the football,
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  Speaker 6: he's a leader. But they just don't have quick strike
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  Speaker 6: capability on offense. I mean, the defense, probably the hardest-hitting
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  Speaker 6: defense I've seen in a couple years, they smack you.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 6: I would not want to face them. But on offense,
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  Speaker 6: I don't see this team scoring 30, 40 points. So
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  Speaker 6: do you want to lay double digits to a team
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  Speaker 6: that has a running back that can do it all,
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  Speaker 6: running the football, catching the ball out of the backfield?
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  Speaker 9: No.
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  Speaker 6: And they've got confidence. You know, they played with Iowa
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  Speaker 6: on the road, lost by three, didn't give up against Utah.
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  Speaker 6: So I think it's going to be a low-scoring game here.
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  Speaker 6: I think BYU escapes here 21-17, but I'm taking the
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  Speaker 6: double-digit points here in the Cyclones.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I thought that might be your pick.
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  Speaker 2: Also, Aiden Flora, who you just referenced, a running back
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  Speaker 2: who can do it all, against Utah, they held him
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  Speaker 2: to four yards a carry.
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  Speaker 3: That's still a respectable average, but... They went.
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  Speaker 2: Away from him too much in that game. He only
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  Speaker 2: got 13 carries in that game against Utah because they
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  Speaker 2: were trailing so much after a really bad first half.
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  Speaker 2: If they can stay the course and keep feeding him
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  Speaker 2: the ball, even if they're trailing against BYU, I think
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about exactly what you're mentioning here, a much
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  Speaker 2: closer game.
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  Speaker 6: Yep, I agree with you 100%. He's a whale of
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  Speaker 6: a football player. You know, I don't know, sometimes you
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 6: see guys like that and they don't project to the
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  Speaker 6: next level. This guy might be able to find his
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  Speaker 6: way onto a roster and even contribute.
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  Speaker 2: Little baby Christian McCaffrey, for obvious reasons, you get that comparison.
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  Speaker 2: All right, big one tomorrow night at Rice Echo Stadium.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen the iced-out, white-out uniforms
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  Speaker 2: that they're planning for the night game, the hand-painted helmets.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone in the fan base is really fired up about that.
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  Speaker 2: The players are fired up. And they're a big-time favorite.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen it 15 and a half, 15 points against
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  Speaker 2: the Kansas Jayhawks team that so far has looked pretty
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: hapless against Power 4 competition. Lee, I'm trying to not
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  Speaker 2: be overconfident here. I'm trying to not be like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Utah's going to smash this Kansas team, but everything on.
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  Speaker 3: Tape shows me that they should. Tell me how this
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  Speaker 3: game goes.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and they're reckless with the ball. I mean, they
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  Speaker 6: will try sometimes to push the ball down the field,
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  Speaker 6: but you have a young quarterback who's talented. He can
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  Speaker 6: make a lot of throws, but You know, sometimes that
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  Speaker 6: gets you in trouble here. This game actually, what's interesting,
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  Speaker 6: I look back, Kansas did cover in their last game
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 6: of 2025 against Utah by half points. so this kind
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 6: of counts as a revenge spot here, but they just
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 6: don't give me any reason here to think that they
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  Speaker 6: can pull it off. Utah is hot. Only a bye
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  Speaker 6: week could stop them. Wayshawn Parker, 174 rushing yards and
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 6: two touchdowns versus Iowa State, and their number three defense nationally.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 6: giving up just 10.3 points per game here. I think
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 6: they're going to get three-plus turnovers here. That'll be the difference,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 6: even special teams. I think Utah does a number here
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 6: on Kansas, 41-17.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: Win and cover for the Utes, according to Lee Sterling. Again,
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  Speaker 2: Paramount Sports stays red hot. James, my producer, just whispered
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: in my ear. in the Falcons Ravens game, it looks
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: like former Tyler Huntley is going to be starting in
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: this game. And the Falcons have been one of the
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: surprises of the NFL for me. What do you think
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: about that game?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I think the Atlanta and I kind of identified
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 6: it when they came back and they got their quarterback,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 6: they were going to be a tough out. They might
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 6: be playing the best football right now in the NFL,
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 6: not just offensively. Their defense is feeding off of it also.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 6: So most of the yards they've given up has been
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 6: in the second half. Tyler Huntley, uh, This is the
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 6: only team he seems to be able to be in
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 6: the right fit, but he just can't push the ball
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  Speaker 6: down the field, and that could be a problem against
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 6: his defense. Hate to say it, but I like Atlanta here.
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  Speaker 6: I think they win in cover 30-20.
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  Speaker 2: Lee is the best in the business. Always great catching
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  Speaker 2: up with you, my friend. We'll chat again next week.
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  Speaker 9: You too, buddy. Take care.
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  Speaker 6: Be safe.
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  Speaker 2: Great stuff from Lee Sterling, former quarterback himself, by the way. Man,
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  Speaker 2: interesting games, big games.
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  Speaker 3: I think I'm with him on that BYU contest.
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  Speaker 2: I could see it being a real slog, a real
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: struggle for BYU, but I do think the Cougs are
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: a good team, and defensively especially, even without Isaiah Glasgow,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: they have what it takes to win this game.
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  Speaker 3: I'm also taking the under.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: On that one, because like Lee Sterling, I just don't
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: think that this is going to be a high-scoring affair,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: especially with the nice weather down there. Jalen Rayner just
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: can't pass, and Bear Bachmeier last week looked like he
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: couldn't pass.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, O.C., it feels like it's a good pick to
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 10: pick Iowa State to cover this game, but BYU come
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 10: out with a much closer win than the betting line
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  Speaker 10: would suggest, but then I mean, we're both agreeing with that,
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  Speaker 10: so maybe you should just, if you are so inclined,
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  Speaker 10: maybe you should just go the other way.
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  Speaker 4: You know what?
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  Speaker 3: My picks have been good this year, okay?
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: I went 2-2-1 last week, which was kind of down,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: but I think I'm like 13-6 right now. I'll have
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: to look up the totals, but man, it's been a
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: really interesting... slate so far and this weekend you have
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: just some games that could go completely awry like UCF
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: on the road at Oklahoma State Oklahoma State are 10.5
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: point favorites there I could see that one getting a
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: little bit weird for UCF and Oklahoma State running away
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: with like a 40 point victory in this game UCF
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  Speaker 2: is one of these other big 12 squads that they've
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: won they beat TCU and they played tough against Houston
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: They also played tough against a really good Pitt team.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: I still don't know what they are. There's too many
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: teams in the Big 12 Conference. I still don't know
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: what they are, who they are. I'll tell you who
• 1:42:14
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  Speaker 9: Good, OC.
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  Speaker 4: How are you?
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  Speaker 3: Doing all right.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to ask you to go back a couple
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: of weeks because we haven't had a chance to talk
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  Speaker 2: to you in a couple of weeks. First of all,
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: how do you feel like practice went during the bye week?
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  Speaker 9: Awesome. It's, you know, bi-week is used for two things.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 9: Number one, to get ahead mentally. You know, you get
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 9: a jump on, you know, your next opponent. You dive
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 9: into the film study. It's also used for recovery. You
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 9: got to do a great job with, you know, your nutrition,
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 9: your sleep, you know, your rehab, stuff like that. So
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 9: trying to get ahead from a body standpoint and also
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 9: a mental standpoint. So bi-week went well for us.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: And, of course, much more importantly, the team handled its
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: first road game very well. Your defense limited one of
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: the best players in the conference, in my estimation, in
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: Aiden Flora to well below his game averages, his season
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: averages so far. And, you know, handled business, got the
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: job done, and your team is 4-0 with a chance
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: to be 5-0.
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  Speaker 4: Tomorrow night.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: So go back, if you're willing, all the way to
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: that Iowa State road trip and tell me how your
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: team graded out and how you thought things went.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I thought it was a good challenge for us.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 9: It was kind of like, okay, who are we from
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 9: an identity standpoint? We knew what we were going to face. And,
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 9: you know, in Iowa State's power run downhill, and as
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 9: you mentioned, the running back, an extremely good player. You
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 9: saw what he did this This last week at West Virginia,
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 9: it's like, okay, that kid is a good runner. It
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 9: was a chance for us to really kind of showcase
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 9: our physicality, our ability to play with good pad level
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 9: and inside hands and control the line of scrimmage. We
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 9: knew that's what the game was going to be. Afterwards,
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 9: their coach came on and said they really made us one-dimensional.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 9: They kind of took away what we do best in
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 9: the run game. And I was really proud of our guys.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 9: They stepped up to the challenge. They worked hard all
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 9: week going into the game. They knew what they had
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 9: to do. And right from the very first play, you
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 9: could see the dominance just at the line of scrimmage
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 9: with our guys, you know, from the front seven to
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 9: even the safeties coming up, corners getting involved in the
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 9: run game. I think our guys really did a good
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 9: job of buying into what we were asking them.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: Not only stopping keeping them below their averages but a
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: lot of disruptive plays a lot of TFLs and things
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: like that in this game and I know that for
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: a defensive coordinator that probably brings a little tear to
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: your eyes seeing your guys win not only at the
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage but but in anticipation and matching their
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: film study to know what's coming. And getting to that
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: point of attack so quickly. And you had a nice distribution.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: Trey Reynolds a couple of times in the backfield. Jai
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: once again. Elijah Ellis is really starting to shine, I think.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: So just, you know, when you see those guys not
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: only make a play, but make a disruptive play, a
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: negative play for the offense. Just tell me, you know,
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: how it feels for you to know that the work
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: that all of them put in and that you put
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: in is paying off.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's, you know, on the defensive side, we call
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 9: it production. And with those havoc plays that you're talking
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 9: about are impactful type of plays, whether it be sacks, TFLs, PBUs, interceptions,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 9: you know, and what's interesting to see, and we track them,
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 9: you know, All the way from fall camp through the
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 9: season and to see how our guys are producing in
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 9: those havoc plays is really exceptional. It's kind of nice
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 9: to see these guys, you know, getting their hands on
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 9: the balls and, you know, creating sacks and everything. And
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 9: I get in those TFLs on such crucial short yardage situations.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 9: You know, they understand the down distances. So I think
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 9: they really are kind of buying into, you know, our
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 9: culture on the defensive side. And, and those havoc plays
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 9: are showing up. We have a goal of getting 14
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 9: havoc plays, you know, every game, you know, and in
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 9: so far in the four games, we've been up 20,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 9: 20 plus type havoc plays with, with those, those impactful
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 9: plays for us.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: So, You were taught, you talked about it in, in
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: post-practice media availability this week, but you know, we, we've
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: been nitpicky and we've been saying like, all right, sacks, sacks, sacks.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: And you have, you know, a couple of times now
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: mentioned in answering questions about it, that it's not a
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: be all end all getting.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 4: Sack production, especially from certain position groups, but with mobile quarterbacks,
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 4: a lot of what needs to be emphasized.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: And we saw this against Iowa state and, Kansas could
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: present this problem and West Virginia down the road and
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: BYU down the road and all this. that you've got
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: to maintain gap integrity. You've got to keep containment and
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: things like that. How are your guys grading out on
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: that aspect of a pass rush and the passing game
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: right now?
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's, you know, I think you kind of hit
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 9: the nail on the head. You know, sacks come, you
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 9: look at through four games. I mean, we're ahead of
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 9: last year and the year before as far as amount
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 9: of sacks. But we don't really focus on the amount.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 9: I think if we turn our attention to, oh, you got,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 9: we need more sacks, we need more sacks, which, you know,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 9: if you look at it statistically, we're actually ahead of
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 9: where we were last year through four games. You know,
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 9: but the mindset, I truly believe that if you're just
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 9: sitting there focusing on sacks and, you know, from a
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 9: defensive end standpoint, defensive tackle standpoint, you lose the integrity
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 9: of your defense. Uh, and, and that's where you mentioned
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 9: earlier in your question is like, okay, you're playing these
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 9: athletic quarterbacks. If you are, you know, got one guy
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 9: that is undisciplined in his rush lane, you know, you're
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 9: going to let an athletic quarterback get out and, you know, scramble,
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 9: it's going to hurt you more. So it's, it's gotta
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 9: be a collective deal in the fact of, Hey, we've
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 9: got to make sure that we're containing these athletic quarterbacks
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 9: and Keep them guys in the pocket.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 9: Well, you know, sometimes it might be a PVU or,
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 9: you know, an incomplete pass versus a sack, but you know,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 9: we're not letting the guys scramble on third and eight
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 9: and get a pickup, the first down, you know, so
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 9: there's a lot that kind of goes into it and
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 9: the teaching process for these kids and them really understanding.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 9: I think they do a really good job, but like
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 9: I said, the sacks, the sacks are there. You know,
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 9: is it, is it coming from a linebacker? Sure. Is
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 9: it coming from a defensive tackle? Sure. You know, it's,
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 9: it's collective in, in how I like to look out
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 9: of it. But at the same time, if we're only
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 9: thinking sack, then, you know, you're, you're going to get
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 9: your butt kicked in the run game or Q scramble game.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: Morgan answered a question about this earlier in the week
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: about pro football focus grades. And you've got one of
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: the top defensive backfields in the entire country right now.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: one of the top defenses in the entire country right now.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: But certainly a point of emphasis is the back end
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: and the way that those guys are handling their duties.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: And I just wanted to give you a space to
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: talk about what your safeties, your corners, your nickels have
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: been able to do this year when, you know, really.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 4: You're asking a lot. Sometimes these guys are down in
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 4: the box. They're tackling extremely well.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: We've seen sacks and pressures generated from their blitzes and
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: things like that. But in past coverage, those havoc plays
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: are still being produced. And, you know, I think that's
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: a credit to Sharif and to Coach Odom and everybody else.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: But I wanted to give you an opportunity to talk
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: about the way that you think those guys have played
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: so far.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 9: I've been really pleased with how they're playing. Impressed, probably
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 9: not the word, because that's my expectation from what they
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 9: have done and have shown. They've gained my trust over
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 9: time and are doing an exceptional job. and I'm really,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 9: really pleased with where they're at. It's a deep group
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 9: back there. You look at the rotation at the corner
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 9: spot and sit there and say, okay, one of three
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 9: to four guys are playing and playing well and they
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 9: can rotate in and they're doing a great job with it.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 9: You look at the safety position and if you threw
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 9: Benny into the mix there, you got three to four
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 9: guys that can play as well. The depth of it
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 9: and Just the cognizant ability to process all the information
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 9: that we're throwing at them and been really, really impressed
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 9: and pleased. And like you said, they are well-rounded dudes.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 9: I mean, they can come down and play in the
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 9: box and make tackles with TFLs and blitz the quarterback
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 9: and do a variety of different skill sets and also
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 9: cover a fade from the slot from the outside one
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 9: or five spot. And so it's just really nice to
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 9: have those guys. And honestly, that was a big question
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 9: mark going into this season. It was, okay, we had
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 9: to replace some good players, replace guys that have moved on.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 9: And so I've been really impressed and really pleased, I
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 9: should say, with where they're at and how they're continuing
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 9: to work.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: You mentioned the depth, and I want to talk about depth.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: Really on both sides of the ball right now for
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: this University of Utah football team, We're seeing a great
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: amount of depth. Yes, you have star players in both categories,
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: but there's not a significant drop off, at least from
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: my vantage point, when Elijah Ellis and Cyrus Polo are
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: in there.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 4: Versus when it's Trey Reynolds and John Hall.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: And that I think, you know, we're taking it for
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: granted already four games into the season, but it's not,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: it's not all that normal, especially in the modern year
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: of college football where transfer portal and NIL opportunities have
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: actually diminished depth in a lot of places, especially in
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: places where you don't have unlimited funds. But I'm looking
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: at this Utah football team and I'm like, man, the
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: T the two deep feels really good in a lot
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: of these very crucial positions where How have you and
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: the rest of your coaches been able to achieve that?
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just taking those younger kids that you bring
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 9: in from high school and developing them. You mentioned Cyrus
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 9: Polu and Elijah Ellis. Those are two great examples of
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 9: what we've been able to, number one, recruit to, and
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 9: number two, develop them. But taking guys like that and
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 9: getting them to where you can get them on the
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 9: field and they can produce, you trust them to be
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 9: out there. And so it's a well-rounded defense, especially when
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 9: you can have 22 guys in uh, ability to be
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 9: on the, on the field versus, you know, just 12, 13, 14,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 9: 15 guys. And you don't have, you know, the two
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 9: deep that you would normally have. And so, um, you know,
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 9: a credit to, to everybody included strength staff and all
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 9: the coaches and, and, These kids are really working to
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 9: get on the field, and it definitely shows up. For
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 9: these long seasons, once they go 14, 15 weeks, you've
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 9: got to have guys that provide that depth and that
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 9: are quality players, for sure.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: Colton Swan, Utah defensive coordinator, is our guest here on
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: the Sean O'Connell Show for Coordinator's Corner ahead of a
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: Kansas matchup Saturday night, whiteout at Rice Eccles Stadium, 8-15 kick.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: The weather might be a little bit soggy and cold
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: to match those iced out helmets. We'll get to that
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: here in just a second. Uh, I mean, we've been
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: too positive. We've been too hunky Dory to singing everyone's praises.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: What is the thing that you need your defense to
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: do better? What is something that you, you were able
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: to watch some film in the spy week and look
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: and evaluate and say, all right, here's some more potential
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: that we can unlock.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 4: Let's do this in Kansas and beyond.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's always for us going to be coming down
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 9: to stopping the run game. I think that that is
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 9: something that we are constantly focusing on. We are facing
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 9: in Kansas a very run-heavy team with a run-heavy quarterback.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 9: uh not only just with his ability with qb design
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 9: run plays but also his ability to on the drop
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 9: back pass to get outside the pocket extend plays use
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 9: his feet to pick up first downs um and so
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 9: constantly working on understanding the down distance minimizing the damage
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 9: you know really kind of playing into what the offense
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 9: has given us and so you know it's it's it's Defense,
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 9: as you know, OC is sometimes it's organized chaos, right?
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 9: You get aligned, you assign, you know, the ball snapped,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 9: you try to execute. And then from that point, you know,
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 9: you're really trying to, to rally and tackle and pursue
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 9: and those types of things. And you've got to be
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 9: able to pin your ears back and, and get after,
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 9: you know, your opponent, whether it's a one-on-one matchup or,
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 9: or a schematic deal. But just, I really am telling
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 9: those guys, Hey, we've got to beat, you know, Kansas
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 9: every day in practice. When we have a scout period,
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 9: we've got to really focus in and make sure that
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 9: we're executing and that we're doing the things necessary, like
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 9: pursuing the ball and tackling and those types of things.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 9: It's a skill set that a lot of people forget about.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 9: because at some point your scheme is probably going to
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 9: break down, but your ability to pursue the football and
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 9: tackle should never break down. Your effort should never break down.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 9: And I think that's what we do well right now,
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 9: but it's keeping a team that is 4-0 hungry. And
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 9: that's always going to be a challenge. Sometimes the pat
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 9: on the back is not too far from the kick
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 9: in the butt. So as coaches, we've got to be
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 9: great motivators, and we've got to really help these guys
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 9: understand what true leadership looks like within and how that
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 9: drives teams to be great, not just average, but to
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 9: be great. So it's definitely a mind game and trying
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 9: to keep these kids going because, you know, human ability
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 9: and natural instinct is to, to relax. And, you know,
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 9: like I said, I start patting backs and those types
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 9: of things. And that's, that's not the case. That's not
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 9: who we are.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 2: You just mentioned Kansas is run heavy. They're they're five
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 2: and a half yards of carry. They're the number two
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: total offense in the conference. They're the number two rushing
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: offense in the conference, but they're not translating as well
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: into scoring offense. And I know your job is not
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: to solve their problem. It's to create more for them.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: But why is what Kansas does in the run game
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: not leading to more points?
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I think they're putting drives together. And
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 9: they're falling apart with, you know, some mistakes. Being a
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 9: little bit careless with the football is a big thing.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 9: You can see them, you know, go on length of
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 9: field and then create a turnover or something to that regard.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 9: But yeah, I, like you said, the offense is very potent.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 9: The quarterback is extremely potent. He has the ability to
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 9: do multiple things and he's got a very high skill set. Um, uh,
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 9: but they, they create a lot of problems and you
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 9: as a defense has got to be able to handle
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 9: a lot of different looks and shifts and motions and,
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 9: and different types of run plays. Uh, and they've got
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 9: a really good, they got really good players. And so, uh,
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 9: it's a good challenge for us defensively. Um, like I said, they,
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 9: they rely on that run game and the quarterback being
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 9: a lot of it, a big part of it. And
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 9: so it'll be a good challenge for us.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 3: This time of year.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: And I don't think you're experiencing these problems, but it's
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: possible that a team can start to read its own
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: press clippings and see some of the stuff that we're
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 2: talking about and all the statistical places where you rank
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: in the top 13 in the country and all that,
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: and you can start doing that pat myself on the
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 2: back kind of thing and, oh, look how good we
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: are kind of thing. Do you have to combat that
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: at all with this group?
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 9: A hundred percent. Absolutely. I mean, they're, they're hungry, they're
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 9: hungry kids and they've got, you know, a goal and
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 9: they've got a direction they want to head. But at
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 9: the same time, you as coaches, you're, you know, psychologists,
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 9: you're creating that motivation. You're figuring out ways to keep
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 9: kids hungry and not let that natural, you know, instinct
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 9: of becoming lazy or becoming content creep in and constantly
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 9: talking to guys about that. um, here and just making
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 9: sure that that's not part of what we do from
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 9: a culture standpoint. And, and I think the biggest thing is,
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 9: is really from a leadership standpoint, like making sure those
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 9: leaders understand how hungry we are and what we have, uh,
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 9: the ability to do. And so just keeping those, cause
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 9: they're the teams driven within, you know, and those leaders are,
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 9: are more so, um, creating that motivation, um, than coaches
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 9: and you're sitting in a pretty good spot. And so, yeah,
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 9: it's always definitely a deal that we're working on for sure.
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 9: I'm not saying that we're doing it, but you always,
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 9: when you're 4-0 and you're moving into a home game
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 9: and all that stuff, you want to keep those kids hungry.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: Home game, night game, hand-painted whiteout helmets, big topic of
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: discussion in the fan base.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 4: You and I come from a time where you had
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 4: one helmet.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 2: And you're lucky if you got like the good chin
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: strap on that helmet. And now you got these guys
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: with these like beautiful works of art on their heads
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: and you get to do these cool uniform combinations and
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 2: all that stuff. Just you're You're an old cowboy who's
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 2: a football coach. What do you make of this part
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: of college football right now?
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 9: It's awesome. I'm excited for the kids. Obviously, the game's
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 9: developed a lot since you and I have played. At
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 9: the end of the day, it's a uniform, meaning that
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 9: everybody is wearing the exact same thing. It's there to
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 9: Protect yourself and make sure, but I don't think our
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 9: kids get too caught up in the uniform and the
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 9: excitement around it. I think they really are very mature
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 9: when it comes to the focus of the opponent. It's
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 9: awesome to have the support from the community and the crowd,
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 9: and there's no better place than Rice-Eccles Stadium. I know
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 9: the added benefit of uniform and helmets and stuff like
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 9: that is great for fans.
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 2: A couple more minutes here with Colton Swan on the
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell Show, defensive coordinator at the University of Utah.
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 2: I saw a couple of your guys out at the
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 2: UFC event this past weekend. I know you guys were
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: all on the recruiting trail as coaches, but saw Ethan
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 2: Day and Lance Holtzclaw and Devin Dampier out there at
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 2: the UFC event. And I love asking this question. I
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: usually ask players, but you're stuck with me, so you've
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 2: got to answer it. You've got to put one guy
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 2: on your team. into a cage fight and get a win?
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 2: Who's the guy you're putting in there with the highest probability?
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 9: Speaker 4 0 1, that's a tough question because now
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 9: you're asking me to single them out. We've got a
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 9: lot of guys that I would definitely put in there,
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 9: you know, a bunch of cage fighters guys, you know, that,
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 9: that just come to mind, you know, on the defensive side,
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 9: the Trey Reynolds is, is a guy that is, you know,
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 9: a bruiser and a grinder and he plays that way.
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 9: You know, he's, he has a knack for getting to
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 9: the football and, and I can see him being a
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 9: really good cage fighter. You know, but there's, there's big
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 9: strong guys like, like him all over. And so I
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 9: hate to pick one of them out, but if he did,
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 9: he said, Hey, this is the one guy I'd go
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 9: with Trey Reynolds.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 2: Were you at the, were you at the team meeting when,
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 2: when Anthony went to the former linebacker and that current
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 2: UFC fighter.
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 4: When he came and spoke to the team?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: How'd that go?
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  Speaker 6: You're great.
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's good motivation. It's fun to see somebody with
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 9: a different perspective and talk about what's important and, you know,
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 9: their motivation. And I think the guys really responded well.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 9: They enjoyed it.
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 2: Did you get a chance to wrestle any livestock on
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 2: the bye week?
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  Speaker 5: No.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 9: You know, I went for a little bit of horseback ride.
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 9: I took my kids up and did that. Damn near freaking...
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 9: almost injured my daughter pretty good. She fell, ended up
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 9: falling off a horse and getting trampled and all that
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 9: good stuff, but build the character, right? Don't see.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's the only way you could look
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: at it. I hope she's okay. I'm glad she's okay.
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 5: She is.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You can chuckle and laugh
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 9: cause she's fine. But at the moment I was like,
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 9: Oh crap.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 2: That's scary stuff, but I'm glad it all worked out
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 2: and you know, she'll be happy that you raised her
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 2: that way when she's so, when she's tough.
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 9: Yeah, hope so.
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 4: All right, well, good luck. We'll see you out there
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 4: this weekend, Coach. Thanks for your time.
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 9: Okay, sounds good. Thanks, Sean.
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 2: That's Colton Swan, defensive coordinator at the University of Utah.
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 2: And you know what time it is on a Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Airing of grievances next on the Sean O'Connell Show, ESPN 700,
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 2: 92 on FM.
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  Speaker 5: This is the Sean O'Connell Show, your home of the
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 5: best inside of your youth. Let's get back to OC
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 5: from the Murdoch Chevrolet studio of ESPN 792.1 FM. The
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 5: tradition of Festivus begins with the airing of grievances.
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 4: I got a lot of problems with you people. Now,
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 4: you're going to hear about it.
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 2: It is that time on the Sean O'Connell Show.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 3: Airing of grievances, 877-353-0700.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 2: Text a man, get it off your chest, let us
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 2: know how you're feeling. At Real OC Sports, if you'd
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 2: rather tweet it at me, 877-353-0700.
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe if you're... Call or you can text.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 10: If you stop by the Smiths in Daybreak, Smiths Marketplace
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 10: in Daybreak, maybe they'll throw a headset on you to
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 10: air your grievance.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we could do that. We could do that.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 2: I think there's probably a couple of people that are
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 2: going to air grievances against us because we ran out
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 2: of prizes out here. We got home show tickets, tailgate
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: passes cleaned out, Smiths gift cards cleaned out. Both pairs
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 2: of tickets were gone in hour number one to the
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 2: Utah versus Kansas game.
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 3: So next time we are on the road.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: at a Smith's, try to get here in the first
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 2: half of the show because, man, we got a lot
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 2: of foot traffic, and I love to see it. Thanks
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 2: to everyone who stopped by. Appreciate you very much. Big
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 2: thanks to Cynthia for blocking. She's doing, like, her best
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 2: pass blocking, people coming up to the table, and I'm
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 2: the quarterback back here, and she's keeping everyone away from me.
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 2: We'd love to see you, but when I'm on the air,
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 2: I can't talk to you.
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  Speaker 3: 877-353-0700.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 2: It's hard to prescreen these, and sometimes you kind of
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 2: read ahead in your mind, and you see a word,
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, boy, is this going to be
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 2: a tough one to read? Grievance from Curtis. My parents
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: were recently told by a Utah mortuary. Okay, so I
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 2: saw mortuary.
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 3: I was like, uh-oh. Grievance against somebody dead?
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 5: No. Okay.
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 3: My parents were recently told.
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  Speaker 2: By Utah Mortuary that their existing insurance won't cover their
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 2: funeral costs, even though they have $ 12, 000 each in funeral costs,
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 2: and they were pushed toward a pre-need funeral contract requiring
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 2: $ 800 a month for two years with a hidden clause
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 2: stating that if they miss just one payment, they lose
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 2: every dollar invested. This is a devastating financial trap, so
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 2: please be aware for seniors in your life.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Curtis, first of all, I'm very sorry this happened
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 2: to your parents. Second of all, grievance and hopefully a
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 2: broken leg for whatever dirtbag company is trapping people into
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 2: an $ 800 a month for two years commitment with these
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 2: predatory hidden clauses in them.
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 4: Ooh, this really boils my blood. You cannot.
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 3: I have.
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 2: A lovely grandmother who is Thankfully still with us. She's
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 2: 87 years old.
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 3: Lives out of state.
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 2: She's awesome. She's the person who made me a San
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 2: Francisco 49ers fan. She's the person who made me a
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 2: sports fan.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 3: In general.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 2: She's the biggest sports fan in our family. And, I mean,
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have this job if it wasn't for my grandma. Anyway,
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 2: she's on her own now and living in one of
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 2: those apartment complexes and stuff. But when you get to
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 2: a certain age, and unfortunately there's a lot of idle
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 2: time Not working anymore. Family's not around. Everyone's living their
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: own lives. These scams on the internet and by phone
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 2: to elderly people are just... And remember, they lived in
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 2: a time when this kind of stuff didn't exist. They
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 2: thrived in a time when this... Like, there was no Facebook.
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 2: There was no random, like, people coming after you for
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 2: no reason.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, it boils my blood.
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  Speaker 3: So, grievance.
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  Speaker 2: And instead of just echoing the grievance, we will exponentially
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 2: increase the grievance, Curtis.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry that happened to your family.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's terrible. And I echo both of you. Those
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 10: kind of scams are predatory parts of companies, whatever. Just terrible, right?
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 10: I will also sort of piggyback on the grievance to
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 10: say it costs too much to.
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 4: lay to rest your loved ones. Okay. Like, can we
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 4: figure that out?
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 10: Maybe it just, the cost of some things, unfortunately I've
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 10: talked about, I've lost both my parents. My dad passed
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 10: a little over three years ago now. Um, he, he
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 10: didn't have life insurance. So that was, that's when me
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 10: and my brothers learned just how much it costs to, uh,
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 10: bury your, your loved ones.
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 4: And, uh, yeah, I, I, can sympathize with Curtis in
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 4: a way where he.
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 10: It sounds like his parents are still alive, but in
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 10: this way where it's like, can we just make it
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 10: so it doesn't cost quite that much? But I guess
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 10: that's capitalism and that's business for these mortuaries and other
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 10: companies that do this stuff.
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't do the quick mental math on this,
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 2: but $ 800 a month for two years is.
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 2: A lot of money you're talking about and that's and
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 2: for two parents right you're talking about almost forty thousand
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 2: dollars that these people have now committed over the next
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 2: two years brutal brutal and almost every elderly person is
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 2: on a some kind of fixed income whether it's retirement
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 2: or social security or whatever there's a lot.
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 4: More serious than most airing of grievances but yikes.
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 2: Man Yeah, serious tone to the start of this airing
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 2: of grievances, but it's an important thing.
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 9: It is.
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 2: Grievance from Jordan. My biggest grievance right now is the
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 2: job interview process these days. I've gone through one phone interview,
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 2: two separate video interviews, and still have one in-person interview
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 2: to go for this job. That's like four separate occasions
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 2: I have to plan around and prep for. Seems a
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 2: bit much to me. 100% yes. That is too much. Now,
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 2: multiple interviews, I get it.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 3: If you're like.
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 2: trying to be in the CIA is probably need to be,
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 2: needs to be like some extensive interview process. Uh, I
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 2: guess if it's a wildly competitive job market in a
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 2: wildly competitive company, like, uh, you know, maybe you're trying
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 2: to get one of these like Google dream jobs or
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 2: go work up on the Nike campus where every lunch
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 2: is free and you're getting like free, you know, chefs
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 2: are catering things and you get insane stock options and
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 2: whatnot with the, with the salary to go with it.
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 2: Maybe then you got to be really, really particular about
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 2: the people that you're hiring and you can have a three,
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 2: four or five interview job process.
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 3: I think for me, I'm capping out at like three, man.
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 2: Like if you don't know you want to hire me
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 2: or that you don't want to hire me after the
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 2: second conversation, that's pretty crazy. If it takes more than three,
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 2: then you're just being indecisive or, or more realistically, uh,
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 2: You have too much redundancy in your company where it's
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 2: like everyone has to ask for too much permission and
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 2: no one's allowed to make a decision. That's a good grievance, Jordan.
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 3: Richie, grievance.
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 2: Tired of people turning that either don't signal or don't
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 2: pull onto the shoulder or turn lane and turn into
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 2: the middle of the lane.
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 3: I'm tired of it, dude.
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 2: This happened to me when I was driving out to
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 2: the Smith's Marketplace in daybreak on the way to do
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 2: the show today. You know how sometimes you're driving and
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I don't mean to be in this
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 2: right turn lane.
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 4: I got to get back into the regular traffic lanes.
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 4: It happens to all of us.
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 2: So guy in front of me, slightly in front of me,
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 2: finds himself in that exact situation. And so it's coming
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 2: up to the intersection and he's got to get over.
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 2: And instead of signaling like he needed to get over,
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 2: he just jerked to the wheel and cut me off
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 2: and kept going.
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 3: And I was like, dude. I'm being observant here. I
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 3: could have easily braked for you.
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 2: I could have let you in. I would have waved you.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 2: No problem if you told me your intention. That's what
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 2: the signals are for. Be better, Utah drivers. This from
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 2: Jace Babka. Shout out to the whole Babka squad. 1388,
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 2: no grievances today. Been fighting wildfires all summer and it's
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 2: hard to tune in, but Finally home and happy to
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 2: hear you for the full show while running errands. Happy
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 2: to hear you are home and safe, and thank you
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 2: for fighting wildfires all summer and keeping that. As far
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 2: as I was aware, here in Utah, it wasn't a
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 2: particularly aggressive wildfire season, but correct me if I'm wrong, Chase,
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 2: so that probably means you were all over the place
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 2: fighting them.
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 10: That was the one, was it the Cottonwood Fire down
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 10: by Beaver? Is that what that fire was named?
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a big one. He might have been
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 4: part of that one. That was, but Yeah, I think
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 4: you're right.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 10: Other than that huge fire we had in state down there,
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 10: it feels like it was less this year.
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 4: But Chase can correct us if we're totally.
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 3: Wrong on this.
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 2: That might just be the news cycle giving us something
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 2: else to panic about. It might be AI telling us
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 2: don't worry because that's how they're going to kill us
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 2: all by starting wildfires.
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 4: You never know. Let's hope not.
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 2: From Sam, grievance, passwords not being the unique identifier. You
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 2: have to provide a password, go check an email, check
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 2: a text, stand up and check another email.
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 4: I'm sick of it.
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 2: Company sent me two texts after password and an email verification.
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 2: It's too much, and the obligation to keep my data
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 2: password secure needs to be on the company. The two-factor
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 2: authentication thing is a nightmare for so many reasons, but
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 2: let me tell you when it's particularly problematic. If you
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 2: are ever fortunate enough to be traveling internationally, and maybe
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 2: you're lucky enough to be off the grid a little bit.
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 2: You're lucky enough to be in a place that doesn't
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 2: have particularly robust Wi-Fi structure or internet access, period. When
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 2: you are trying to figure out how to check into
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 2: your flight as you're making your way back towards an
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 2: airport when you're in the middle of nowhere and they
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 2: have two-factor authentication, so it just doesn't work that you
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 2: have phone reception to That is the most nightmarish process.
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 3: That you could possibly go through. I agree with you.
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 2: If you volunteer for two-factor authentication because you're really that
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 2: worried about getting hacked or you're worried about losing some
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 2: crucial information, fine. Opt in and just go through the
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 2: seven-step process because you chose to. Requiring it is very
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 2: aggravating for me, and it takes so much time and effort.
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 2: oftentimes it's for like really silly things right it's like
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 2: your library card has two-factor authentication on it now if
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 2: somebody wants to check out a book on my library
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 2: card they want to hack into my library card fine
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 2: okay i don't need two-factor authentication there i mean i
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 2: don't know watch out for mr bookman from the library
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 2: police that when you when they don't turn it in
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 2: in time and they investigating you for 30 years like
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 2: on like on seinfeld watch out for that okay you
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 2: got to be careful with your library card oc 6351
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 2: grievance against hurricanes for potentially ruining our white out tomorrow
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 2: we're going to see a lot of multi-colored ponchos easy
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 2: fix one dollar white ponchos for sale at each gate
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 2: at rice echo stadium that's what i.
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 10: Thought i when i saw this and uh aaron's is
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 10: a similar grievance Spoiler alert about ponchos not having a
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 10: white poncho already. It's like I'm pretty sure they're probably
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 10: going to have them at the game, and I'm glad
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 10: to hear that they're affordable as well.
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 4: No, no, I'm saying that was my suggestion. Oh, that's
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 4: your suggestion to make them a dollar.
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 2: I need some young capitalist at the University of Utah,
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 2: all right, go buy 10,000 clear or white ponchos.
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 3: Do it today. And just hire your friends, sell those
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 3: bad boys at the gate.
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 2: If you're going to be a capitalist about it, $ 1
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 2: is probably not expensive enough.
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 3: You know what? Supply and demand, $ 5.
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 2: If it's $ 5, people are not saying no. If it's
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 2: more than that, people are just going to be like, whatever,
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 2: I'll get wet. $ 5 poncho at the gate? Or better yet,
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 2: University of Utah?
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 3: How about this? Dare I say this? Otro Capital? Maybe
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 3: throw a poncho on everyone's seat.
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 10: Yeah, like you do a T-shirt on every seat when
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 10: you want everyone to wear the same kind of T-shirt.
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 4: You know what? Put a poncho on every seat.
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 3: It doesn't even have to be a poncho. Here's what
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 3: you've got to do.
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 2: Go get, like, the big garbage bags and just rip
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 2: a hole in the top, all right?
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 4: There you go. A lot of those are white. You
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 4: got black ones, too, but you can find white garbage bags.
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 4: Most of the really big ones are black, but you'll
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 4: be able to find.
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 3: And it can be clear. That's the thing, because people
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 3: are going to be wearing white.
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 3: So clear will give you, like, a white effect.
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, OC.
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 10: You've been to way more games at Ricycle Stadium than
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 10: I have. You've been to bad weather games.
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 4: Don't they.
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 10: They have ponchos at least that you can buy at
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 10: the stadium, right, in those situations?
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're not going to have, like, a supply
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 2: that will meet the demand of that many thousands of people.
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 3: And they're probably going to be red.
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 10: I mean, for this game, you'd think that they're going
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 10: to be white or clear because of the whiteout.
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 4: But, yeah, you're right. Maybe not enough supply to meet
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 4: the demand.
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 3: Here's the thing, right?
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that when they were making the preseason orders
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 2: and maybe coordinating and knowing, okay, we've got a whiteout
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 2: game coming, they're probably thinking, it's October, so that could
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 2: be warm or it could be cold. So let's have
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 2: lots of white T-shirts. Let's have white long sleeves and
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 2: short sleeves. Let's have some white sweatshirts, maybe even some
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 2: white jackets.
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 3: You're not counting on rain, though. You're worried more, you
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? So ponchos, that's an afterthought.
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 2: I never think of a poncho until I need a poncho.
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 2: That's why the poncho market is so aggressive. Because no
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 2: one is like, you know what, I'm going to pre-stock
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 2: my ponchos.
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 3: 877-353-0700.
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 2: Tell me how many ponchos even exist in your house
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 2: except when you're already wet. You know what's the craziest, dude?
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 2: You ever been to Disneyland when it's rainy?
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 2: That's probably the most profitable merchandise day that they ever
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 2: have at Disneyland because people show up in Florida, or
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 2: especially when you're in Southern California where it never rains.
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 4: They show up assuming good weather.
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 2: And then the rain starts coming down, and you're just like, well,
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 2: I can't let this ruin my day at Disneyland because
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 2: I already paid $ 1, 000 for two tickets, so everyone's got
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 2: to buy a poncho.
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 4: And you know what happens?
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 2: Disneyland is just like they put some, like, rudimentary mickey
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 2: mouse decal on there and now it's a 40 product
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 2: yeah do i i'm realizing now that i have a
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 2: grievance with ponchos in general i have a poncho market.
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 3: I have a grievance with the poncho industry big poncho
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 3: is is taking advantage of our lack of forethought.
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 2: I i was waiting for the big poncho shout out
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 2: there and you delivered that was incredible there's big everything
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 2: james yeah all right Grievance for Utah whiteout games in
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 2: October at night. Maybe pick a day game.
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 4: Hold on, though. Aren't whiteout games usually at night?
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 2: The schools that have these firmly established, like Penn State,
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 2: isn't it always a night game that's a whiteout?
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know that it's always one, but it probably
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 4: mostly is one, yeah.
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 2: Who actually owns a white rain poncho and we're going
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 2: to need tomorrow night anyways? I'll be wearing red or black. Look,
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 2: by all means, wear what you've got to wear. The
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 2: thought is what counts here, okay? The team's going to
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 2: look cool and they're all whites. I assume the sideline
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 2: is going to be mostly white.
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 3: I think that's great. Wear what you got to wear, people.
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 3: Just be there, be loud.
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 4: And if it rains and you get a little bit wet,
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 4: stay there and be loud while you're wet.
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's see here. Oh, this is a good one. Oh,
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 3: this is a long one.
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 4: 7271.
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 2: I've been waiting all week to air my grievance today
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 2: just so I could surprise my husband the same way
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 2: he surprised me. My grievance is about my husband getting
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 2: on the radio to complain about his grievance against me. Well,
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 2: let me tell you something. When it comes to choosing
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 2: a restaurant, he's no winner either. I'll suggest a place,
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 2: he'll suggest a place. And when we finally agree on one,
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 2: he'll say, yeah, that's fine.
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 3: Let's go there.
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 2: And then we get there, and suddenly he hates the place.
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 2: He barely orders anything, just something small, and tells me, oh, no,
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 2: I'm really not that hungry.
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 4: But here's the best part.
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 2: We haven't even made it home before he turns to
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 2: me and asks, ooh, are you still hungry? Should we
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 2: stop somewhere and get something to eat?
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 3: So let me get this straight. He didn't like the restaurant.
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 3: He barely ate.
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 2: And now we're going somewhere else because he's hungry. At
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 2: this point, I'm not choosing a restaurant. I'm choosing the
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 2: first stop on a two-restaurant tour. And to quote our
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 2: favorite movie, Happy Gilmore, jackass. That is an incredible grievance.
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 3: 72-71. Well done.
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 4: It's a revenge grievance.
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 3: A revenge grievance. That's like a double grievance.
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 4: I love that. Oh. That's so fantastic.
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 10: Great callback to last week when, yes, her husband did
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 10: air that grievance. You and Spence had a great laugh
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 10: over it in crosstalk last week. And then revenge on
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 10: the husband airing the dirty laundry about how he's a
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 10: terrible restaurant picker, too.
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 4: I love this.
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 2: And by the way, now I'm in a position where
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 2: I feel like I need. I need to referee this
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 2: exchange of grievances.
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 4: Do we need to turn into the Maury show a
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 4: little bit here.
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 2: And just have them both on as guests?
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 3: I'm feeling like what we have here maybe is a
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 3: passive-aggressive situation from the husband, which if you've allowed the
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 3: other restaurant to be chosen and then you're going to
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 3: do the thing like, oh, I'm not very hungry, I
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 3: don't want anything.
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 4: That's not a typical man move if we're talking about Honesty. Okay?
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 3: So, you know what? Next time that we're at Smith's Marketplace.
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 2: We're on the road, I'd like both of you to
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 2: show up, and we'll bring extra headsets, and we can
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 2: talk this out in our airing of grievances.
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 4: Okay? Yeah.
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 2: You are not the great restaurant picker. A little Maury
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 2: Show shout-out for you. Jordan says, paying good money for
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 2: a concert only to watch the artist make the crowd
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 2: sing half of each song. Guys, I'm sorry to be
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 2: the one that has to tell you this. The music
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 2: is never as good at a concert. It's never as good.
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 3: The radio version, the studio recordings of the songs, with.
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 2: Very incredibly rare exception... are the best version of that
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 2: song you're going to get. Now, the experience of going
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 2: to a concert is still good. But the music itself
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 2: is never going to sound as good.
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that shouldn't be the reason you go, I would think, right?
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 3: So if you're hoping... Here's my grievance with concerts, right?
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 2: Especially when we're talking about, like, the iconic songs of
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 2: someone's catalog that everyone wants to sing along with. And
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 2: then they, like, because they're so sick of playing it
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 2: the same way, they take a little artistic riff on
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 2: it and they, like, change the cadence of the chorus
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 2: a little or something.
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 3: I can't stand that. Sing the song the way you're
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 3: going to sing it.
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 2: And, you know, I'd rather have you, like, give the
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 2: microphone to the crowd and make them sing half the
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 2: thing than you do the artist thing.
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 4: Good break.
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 3: Good grievance there.
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 2: We'll close it out next with some skillet trivia, some
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 2: sports trivia where you get two tickets to skillet.
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 3: At the Union Events Center.
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 2: Everyone's been stopping by Smith's today, stocking up on their drinks,
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 2: stocking up on their chips, stocking up on the breads
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 2: and things like that that they need for the weekend
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 2: barbecue for the tailgate party. especially if you're down here
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 2: in Daybreak, another spot that you can pick up everything
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 2: you need, the Southern Steer Butcher, 1705 North Redwood Road
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 2: down in Saratoga Springs. A short jaunt from where I'm
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 2: sitting right now, even if you're downtown Salt Lake City,
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 2: it's only going to take you a half hour to
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 2: get there. Go grab some armadillo eggs. Tell them you
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 2: want some marinated steak tips. Tell them that you want
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 2: that ribeye to be cut at about an inch and
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 2: a half. You want it nice and thick because you
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 2: like that cool, red, bloody center. You don't want a
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 2: well-done steak. And then ask them, hey, what am I
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 2: going to marinate this thing in? What am I going
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 2: to put on this steak to give it that perfect touch,
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 2: that perfect finish for Utah versus Kansas? Dan and Aubrey
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 2: and the whole crew down there are incredibly knowledgeable about
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 2: not only the high-quality meats that they have in stock,
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 2: but about the best way to maximize the flavor on
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 2: those things. Tell them that OC sent you, head down
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 2: to Southern Steer, stock up on all the meats that
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 2: you need, grab your drinks from Smith's, and boom, you
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 2: got yourself a tailgate party. We'll close it out next
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 2: on the Sean O'Connell Show, ESPN 700, 92 on FM.
• 2:27:17
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  Speaker 5: Hyundai Studio of ESPN 700 at 92.1 FM.
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 9: 877-353-0700.
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 5: A pair of tickets at the Union.
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 4: Event Center to Skillet October 23rd.
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 3: Tell me the two points.
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 2: 4 teams that Kansas has played so far. 877-353-0700, their
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 2: third contest, Rice-Eccles Stadium tomorrow night. Who have the Jayhawks
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 2: faced in their two Power 4 contests so far this year?
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 9: 877-353-0700.
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 2: Big thanks to Smith's for having us out here today
• 2:28:00
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• 2:28:25
  Speaker 2: Spence is live at the Intermountain Snowmobile Expo at the
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 2: Western Sports Park in Farmington. So that's where you'll be
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 2: listening to him doing the drive today. That starts here
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 2: in just a couple of minutes. I took the liberty,
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 2: because people are worried about the poncho situation, I took
• 2:28:42
  Speaker 2: the liberty of seeing if we could solve this thing.
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 4: I went to Amazon.
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 2: If you are an Amazon Prime member, which I think
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 2: every American person probably is at this point, you can
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 2: get Extra long rain ponchos for adults. Extra long emergency
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 2: poncho with hood. Six, 12, or 24 family packs.
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 2: These are white slash clear ponchos. A 24-pack is $ 30.
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 3: Plus shipping.
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 4: Oh, wait, no. Eligible for free shipping because you're already
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 4: a Prime member. All right?
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 2: So a dollar-ish per piece. A little over a dollar
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 2: per unit.
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 4: All right? Here's the key.
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 3: Eligible for free delivery tomorrow morning. They will arrive between
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 3: 4 and 8 a.m. tomorrow morning.
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 2: Here's what I want. I want some entrepreneurial young member
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 2: of the must. I need some young student at the
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 2: University of Utah, somebody who's broke and looking for a
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 2: way to make a quick buck, all right? I need
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 2: you to go order like a thousand of these rain
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 2: ponchos and sell them for five bucks apiece. Go stand
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 2: on the corner, southeast corner of the stadium, northeast corner
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 2: of the stadium. People walking through the tunnel to come
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 2: up from the parking lots. Sell these bad boys for
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 2: five bucks a pop. I'm telling you, in one hour,
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 2: you could make $ 5, 000. You got to share it with
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 2: your friends. You got to put one person at each corner. $ 1, 200.
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 3: A piece.
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 4: In one day full of work. See what we're doing here, people?
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 9: This.
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 2: Is the way we solve our white poncho problem for
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 2: the whiteout game tomorrow night at Rice Eccles Stadium.
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 3: Eligible for Amazon delivery?
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 5: Come on.
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 2: Or, better yet, go to your favorite Smith's Marketplace all
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 2: up and down the Wasatch Front and be like, hey,
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 2: you know what I need?
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 3: I need white ponchos. They'll be like, ah, we don't
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 3: have white. We have clear, though.
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 2: Clear is good enough because you're wearing white. Big thanks
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 2: to Smiths for having us out here. Big thanks to
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 2: all of you for tuning in. Everyone have a great weekend.
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 2: We'll see you up there at Rice-Eccles Stadium. We'll do
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 2: the Sean O'Connell show again on Monday. Shout out to Cynthia,
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 2: who's been here great on the tech work today. Also,
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 2: she was airing agreements with me because I said nobody
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 2: actually has ponchos. She claims she has multiple ponchos in
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 2: the house right now. I'm not really believing it, but
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 2: have a great weekend, James. Have a great weekend, all
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 2: of you. Talk to you on Monday, ESPN 700, 92.1 FM.