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Speaker 2: This is the best of Stugatz and Company live on
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Speaker 1: We have Taylor's power rankings to get to. We have
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Speaker 1: a Mount Rushmore Monday to get to. But let's start
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Speaker 1: with Dan Beyer, who I think probably, I'll let him
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Speaker 1: speak for himself, had the greatest sports weekend of his
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Speaker 1: entire life, a long, long time Milwaukee Brewers fan. He
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Speaker 1: went to one of the two World Series games. The
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Speaker 1: Brewers are up two games to nothing. Game three is
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Speaker 1: tonight in Tampa. And then he had Seattle, the Seahawks,
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Speaker 1: showing why they gave away Kenneth Walker to the Chiefs.
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Speaker 3: They don't need him.
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Speaker 1: They beat Kansas City last night, and now everyone's asking
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Speaker 1: what's wrong in Kansas City. Dan Beyer, was this indeed
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Speaker 1: the greatest sports weekend of your lifetime?
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Speaker 4: Got to be top three, right? I mean, like it does.
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Speaker 4: There's no doubt about that. If I thought about back
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Speaker 4: just of what happened on Friday night and the energy
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Speaker 4: of what was going on in Milwaukee... Maybe top two
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Speaker 4: for that reason. It's crazy. I don't know if Taylor's
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Speaker 4: been to a Yankees World Series win. I'm not sure
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Speaker 4: Jason's been to Dodger Stadium during a Dodger game, but
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Speaker 4: to go to a World Series as a fan, something
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Speaker 4: I've never experienced before in my life. And obviously with
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Speaker 4: the Brewers not being there for 44 years, it's the
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Speaker 4: reason why. But I think it's different than any other
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Speaker 4: sporting event that I've ever been to. And it's because
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Speaker 4: when I go to a baseball game, I think that
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Speaker 4: the 20 or 30 or whatever ballpark you're going to,
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Speaker 4: a thousand people that are there, all have different reasons
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Speaker 4: for being there. But it's never usually to be there
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Speaker 4: to watch their team win games. stay for the full
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Speaker 4: nine innings. Maybe it's there to hang out with friends,
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Speaker 4: go catch a ball game, have a good time. And
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Speaker 4: so to have like 40,000 fans there with one goal
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Speaker 4: and only one goal in mind, it's not to eat bratwurst.
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Speaker 4: It's not to eat secret stadium sauce. It's not to
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Speaker 4: get the new hoodie or the hat in the gift shop.
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Speaker 4: It was to win that ball game. It was quite
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Speaker 4: the experience. Those cheese curds, though.
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Speaker 3: I mean, come on. Seriously.
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Speaker 4: They're good. They're always delicious. Every single meal when I
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Speaker 4: go back home is like, let's get some cheese curds.
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Speaker 3: You were right about the World Series.
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Speaker 1: Unlike a billion people who say they were at the game,
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Speaker 1: I was actually at 86, Game 6, Red Sox and
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Speaker 1: Mets with my dad, with my brother. My dad being
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Speaker 1: a monster Red Sox fan. We didn't feel badly for
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Speaker 1: him at all. We didn't make fun of him at all.
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Speaker 1: We didn't mock him at all. even while he was
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Speaker 1: pulling out champagne and opening up the bottle to celebrate
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Speaker 1: what he thought was going to be a Red Sox
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Speaker 1: World Series championship, the first one since 1918.
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Speaker 3: Taylor, have you been to a World Series game?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I've been to one World Series game. I
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Speaker 5: went to game five of the 2024 World Series, Yankees-Dodgers,
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Speaker 5: and I was in attendance when the Yankees blew a
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Speaker 5: 5-0 lead in the fifth inning. Aaron Judges dropped. Garrett
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Speaker 5: Cole forgot to cover first base. I have nightmares about
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Speaker 5: it every night.
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Speaker 4: Now, take away the outcome. Take away what happened.
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Speaker 3: It's hard to take the outcome away.
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Speaker 4: But if you're there in the top of the first inning—
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Speaker 4: it was so different. Like everybody's in their seats. Like
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Speaker 4: there's no one like out in the concourse waiting. Like
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Speaker 4: everybody is there.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And that's not like every baseball game. Somebody shows up
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Speaker 4: in the bottom of the first, maybe top of the second,
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Speaker 4: the Dodger stadium, top of the fifth, you know, whatever
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Speaker 4: it may be, but it's the first inning and everybody
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Speaker 4: wants to see the first pitch and It was just
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Speaker 4: so unique. And I've been to World Series before as
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Speaker 4: a media member, but it's different because I don't have
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Speaker 4: a dog in the fight. I don't know what it's
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Speaker 4: like in that scenario. And that was so different. And
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Speaker 4: I don't know if it was because it was such
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Speaker 4: a long drought for the Brewers in Game 1. It
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Speaker 4: was so highly anticipated. But I would have to think
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Speaker 4: it's got to be somewhat familiar, whether it be with
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Speaker 4: the Yankees or whether it be with the Dodgers, that
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Speaker 4: just everyone is on the same page. And the other
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Speaker 4: funny thing is the Rays– don't travel like you're not
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Speaker 4: seeing tons of Rays fans right.
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Speaker 1: You're not seeing any at home I mean correct.
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Speaker 4: So it's all Brewers fans there's not like you know
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Speaker 4: a contingency of Yankees fans or Red Sox fans or
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Speaker 4: Mets fans or whatever it's just all Brewers fans and
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Speaker 4: yeah yeah it was really really unique.
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Speaker 1: So Jeff Passon was on with us last week and
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Speaker 1: he said uh it may not be the World Series
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Speaker 1: that Major League Baseball wants that people outside of Milwaukee
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Speaker 1: and Tampa wants but What he loved about the matchup
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Speaker 1: is that the people of Milwaukee, they care.
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Speaker 3: And this is the only thing they care about.
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Speaker 1: And they're not going to be distracted, and they're going
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Speaker 1: to be in their seats, paying attention, cheering loud, and
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Speaker 1: be ready to go 15, 20 minutes before first pitch.
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Speaker 3: That was the case, huh?
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Speaker 4: Yes, 100%.
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Speaker 3: It was full.
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Speaker 4: I mean, we got there two and a half hours
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Speaker 4: early just to make sure that everything was– we were
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Speaker 4: in the stadium and everything was good in the lines for,
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Speaker 4: you know, programs like you would expect. I mean, sure. Just,
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Speaker 4: you know, crazy. But when first pitch came or when
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Speaker 4: the announcements came to do the starting lineups and Tom
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Speaker 4: Rinaldi does his thing, everybody was in their seats and
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Speaker 4: it was, yeah, it was, it was really, really awesome.
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Speaker 1: Taylor has a stat here. I'm told about the, about baseball,
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Speaker 1: about the world series. What do you have here for us? Yeah.
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Speaker 5: So this stat is going to make Dan probably feel
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Speaker 5: even better about tonight. This comes from Jake Cuda on Twitter.
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Speaker 5: The Brewers were the most dominant team in baseball on
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Speaker 5: the 26th day of the month this season, going 7-0
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Speaker 5: and outscoring their opponent 53-9. Stu, check the calendar. Game
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Speaker 5: three tonight, October 26th.
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Speaker 4: I like that stat.
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Speaker 1: Why do I have to check the calendar if you're
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Speaker 1: going to tell me the date anyways?
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Speaker 5: You feel better about the Brewers tonight now after hearing
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Speaker 5: that stat, right, Dan?
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Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely. 100%. That stadium may be half Brewer fans.
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Speaker 4: But until that stat to know that it was the 26th,
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Speaker 4: that I had to look at my computer to make
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Speaker 4: sure it was the 26th, we're good to go. Locked in.
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Speaker 3: We sued you, huh? You're up 2-0. We sued you, huh?
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Speaker 4: I love it.
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Speaker 5: I don't think this series is going back to Milwaukee.
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Speaker 3: Really?
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Speaker 5: I'll say it.
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Speaker 3: Really? It's over.
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Speaker 2: Huh.
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Speaker 1: Hmm. I think it's going back to Milwaukee.
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Speaker 5: Ricardo just said you had Tampa in six. Yeah, that
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Speaker 5: was yesterday.
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Speaker 4: Today's tonight. Wouldn't every Met fan like take at the
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Speaker 4: beginning of the year that Freddie Peralta pitches game three
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Speaker 4: of the World Series?
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Speaker 7: Yes.
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Speaker 4: Yes. Every Met fan would have signed up.
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Speaker 3: I would have taken game one, two, three or four.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.
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Speaker 4: Well, he's pitching tonight.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 4: For the wrong team.
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Speaker 3: 877-99 on Fox. 877-99 on Fox. We'll get to Taylor's
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Speaker 3: NFL rankings here in just a second.
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Speaker 1: I'm not certain I've been more confused by any team
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Speaker 1: in sports than I am about the Vikings and their
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Speaker 1: head coach.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what to do with them.
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Speaker 1: They're the most confounding, confusing team I have ever seen.
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Speaker 1: I think in all my years watching sports, they're undefeated.
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Speaker 1: They're 6-0. The offense is atrocious. The defense is as
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Speaker 1: good as it gets. Flores should be a head coach somewhere,
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Speaker 1: if not in Minnesota. And then you have this coach
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Speaker 1: who has assigned all these traits as a quarterback whisperer,
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Speaker 1: and all he's done since he's been the head coach
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Speaker 1: of the Minnesota Vikings is let the good quarterbacks leave
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Speaker 1: and keeps changing quarterbacks. So I don't know what to
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Speaker 1: do with Kevin O'Connell. I don't know what to do
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Speaker 1: with the Vikings. I don't know if the Vikings are
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Speaker 1: for real. I just know that the Vikings are undefeated.
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Speaker 1: They're 6-0. And I have no idea if their head
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Speaker 1: coach actually knows what he's doing. And I have no
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Speaker 1: idea if that Vikings team is any good. Thank you
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Speaker 1: for that.
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Speaker 4: You know what I loved about yesterday's Vikings win? It
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Speaker 4: was like the sixth most important game in that early window.
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Speaker 5: I know.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Vikings are unbeaten yet. The Niners and Falcons
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Speaker 4: were there. The Giants are going to overtime with the Texans. Heck,
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Speaker 4: even the Browns are pulling off another thriller. The Jets
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Speaker 4: fell miserably. Sorry against the Dolphins. But the Vikings going
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Speaker 4: 6-0 was just, yeah, it was just blah.
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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. They're a blah 6-0. Taylor, put it
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Speaker 1: on the poll. Are they a boring 6-0?
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Speaker 5: It does feel weird with this Minnesota Vikings team where
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Speaker 5: it feels like they have to apologize every time they
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Speaker 5: win a game.
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Speaker 1: Well, they should because they made us watch it. They're 6-0.
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Speaker 3: I know they're 6-0.
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Speaker 1: I think the thing that's confounding to me, the thing
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Speaker 1: that really, really confuses me, is why we keep calling
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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell this quarterback expert, this quarterback whisperer. He had
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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold. He decided to let Sam Darnold go. Sam Darnold,
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Speaker 1: the next season, won a Super Bowl for Seattle. He
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Speaker 1: drafted J.J. McCarthy, the guy that was supposed to replace
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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, and he couldn't develop J.J. McCarthy and let J.J.
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Speaker 1: McCarthy go for a fifth-round pick to the New York Giants,
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Speaker 1: and J.J. McCarthy looked like a starting quarterback, in the
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Speaker 1: NFL for the Giants yesterday. He played very, very well.
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Speaker 1: And now he's stuck with Kyler Murray. And he hasn't
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Speaker 1: made Kyler Murray that much better. And I think the
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Speaker 1: thing that's confusing and puzzling to me is why we
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Speaker 1: continue to call Kevin O'Connell this great coach. And the
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Speaker 1: only reason we're doing it is because his team is
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Speaker 1: a blah 6-0.
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Speaker 5: This season, it does feel like we are losing more
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Speaker 5: faith in Kevin O'Connell being this offensive mastermind.
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Speaker 3: And coaches in general. We're losing faith in coaches in general.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but the faith that we're losing in Kevin O'Connell
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Speaker 5: being this quarterback whisper, it feels like Kevin O'Connell is
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Speaker 5: gaining more ground and being like, okay, he might just
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Speaker 5: be a great leader of men, a great CEO-type coach,
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Speaker 5: where the Vikings are the last undefeated team in the NFL,
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Speaker 5: and and you look at some of the teams that
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Speaker 5: they were in that company with, like the 49ers and
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Speaker 5: the Chiefs before this week, that has to count for something.
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Speaker 4: Um, yeah, well, of course. Yes.
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Speaker 1: But it's not, I'm not saying he's a bad head coach.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying the team's bad. They're six and O Taylor. Uh,
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Speaker 1: Flores deserves more credit than, than O'Connell. I'm just talking
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Speaker 1: about the specific trade of being able to make a
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Speaker 1: quarterback better. He's had two opportunities to do it and
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Speaker 1: he's failed both times and he chose the wrong quarterback to,
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Speaker 1: to let out of Minnesota. Darnold should still be there
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Speaker 1: after the season he had for the Vikings that year.
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Speaker 5: So in the credit pie, how much did you have
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Speaker 5: for O'Connell? And then how much did you have for Flores?
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Speaker 3: Flores gets at least 95% of the credit. He does. Dan,
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Speaker 3: am I wrong? At least 95. Defense is world class.
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Speaker 4: No, no. And the other funny thing was yesterday they
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Speaker 4: played Daniel Jones. Remember, they wanted to keep Daniel Jones. Right, yes.
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Speaker 4: And he ended up going to Indianapolis. So there's some
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Speaker 4: more mid-quarterback play.
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Speaker 1: Yet he's 6-0. It's unbelievable. I mean, the guy is
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Speaker 1: winning while losing. Does that make sense? And only because
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Speaker 1: his team is winning. And only because that defensive coordinator
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Speaker 1: is amazing at his job. You're going to be shocked, though, Taylor,
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Speaker 1: if the Vikings win the Super Bowl, right? You're going
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Speaker 1: to be shocked if the Vikings are the one seed
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Speaker 1: in the NFC, aren't you?
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Speaker 5: I would be shocked if the Vikings win a game
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Speaker 5: in the playoffs.
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Speaker 3: Really?
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Speaker 5: A game, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Really?
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Speaker 5: The Steelers, too. The Steelers and the Vikings. There's a
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Speaker 5: lot of teams that I'm just keeping an eye on
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Speaker 5: right now as teams that I can't wait to fade
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Speaker 5: once the playoffs come around. The Vikings are there. If
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Speaker 5: the Texans somehow make the playoffs, I can't wait to
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Speaker 5: bet against the Texans if the Texans somehow find their
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Speaker 5: way to the playoffs, which I don't think will happen.
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Speaker 5: But Pittsburgh's in that same camp where right now you're
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Speaker 5: watching the Steelers. It's like they're just dinking and dunking
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Speaker 5: their way down a field. Once they come up against
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Speaker 5: a real opponent, I think that's when teams like the
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Speaker 5: Vikings and the Steelers will go down.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. The NFL, Dan, is so funny.
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Speaker 1: The Chiefs who were, you know, everyone, oh, the Chiefs, Mahomes,
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Speaker 1: he's healthy.
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Speaker 3: They're great. No one's going to beat them.
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Speaker 1: They lose to Seattle last night because you had the
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Speaker 1: best sports weekend of your entire life. But they lose
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Speaker 1: to Seattle. They were my number one team last week.
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Speaker 1: I know. And now a weekend later, a weekend removed.
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Speaker 1: We were saying this on Friday. And here we are
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Speaker 1: on Monday asking what's wrong with the Chiefs.
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Speaker 4: Everything. After last night, everything was wrong with them.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: By the way, the Vikings, the next four, at Detroit,
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Speaker 4: home against Buffalo, at Green Bay, home against the Niners.
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Speaker 8: Right.
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Speaker 1: I want to say they're going to lose those games,
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Speaker 1: but they might not. Just because of the defense. It
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Speaker 1: won't be because of O'Connell. I can promise you that.
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Speaker 1: Is that fair?
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Speaker 3: 95? 95?
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Speaker 1: I'm not even certain the other 5% goes to O'Connell.
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Speaker 1: I'm just giving 95% of the credit to Flores. 5%
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Speaker 1: to the defense. The guys who actually play defense.
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Speaker 4: 5% could be miscellaneous for all I care. Yeah. They
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Speaker 4: haven't scored. They've had, what, they scored nine against the Bears,
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Speaker 4: 23 to beat the Bucs, 15 to beat the Dolphins,
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Speaker 4: 16 to beat the Colts. And they needed an interception
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Speaker 4: to seal it yesterday. Like it was still in the
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Speaker 4: balance at the end. They needed a Daniel Jones turnover.
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Speaker 3: Yes, the quarterback never seals it for Minnesota, his own quarterback.
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Speaker 1: It's the other quarterback. And that defense always seals it
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Speaker 1: for the Vikings.
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Speaker 1: Taylor, put it on the poll, please. That's to got
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Speaker 1: 790 on X. Is Robert Gasser the greatest pitching name
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Speaker 1: of all time? You would want your pitcher to be
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Speaker 1: named Gasser, would you not?
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Speaker 6: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Johnny Fastball. 877-99 on Fox. We have a ton of calls.
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Speaker 1: We'll get to them in just a second here. Let's
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Speaker 1: go to Mount Rushmore Monday. It's a great Mount Rushmore.
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Speaker 1: The Mount Rushmore of worst NFL coaches of all time.
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Speaker 1: Give me the imaging, please. Hey, you there.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you.
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Speaker 2: The guy with the spreadsheet pretending to work. Do you
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Speaker 2: find yourself needing a pick-me-up as you're dragging in your
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Speaker 2: cubicle to.
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Speaker 4: Start the week?
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Speaker 2: Are you ready to put the sports back in sports talk?
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Speaker 2: Well then, you're in luck, because every Monday, we climb
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Speaker 2: the mountain. We talk to legends, and we argue about things.
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Speaker 3: You want answers.
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Speaker 2: I want the truth.
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Speaker 1: You can't handle the truth.
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Speaker 2: That absolutely do not matter and are completely subjective. This
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Speaker 2: is Mount Rushmore Monday.
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Speaker 1: All right, it is a Mount Rushmore Monday here on
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Speaker 1: Stugatz and Company Live.
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Speaker 3: Taylor, do we have the order here for the Mount Rushmore?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so the order is going to be Stugatz, Taylor,
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Speaker 5: and then Ricardo. And a reminder on the topic, in
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Speaker 5: honor of Aaron Glenn, it is the worst NFL head
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Speaker 5: coaches ever.
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Speaker 3: He might be it.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to choose him first, though. The entire
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Speaker 1: book hasn't been written, although I can tell you the
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Speaker 1: way it ends.
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Speaker 5: Feels like the book is like 99% rated.
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Speaker 3: Spoiler alert. He's getting fired. And he deserves it.
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Speaker 5: Nice guy, though.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So I have the first pick here. So Ricardo's doing it, huh?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Ricardo's the third today.
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Speaker 4: Take Joe Girardi. No, NFL.
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Speaker 3: So many bad coaches.
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Speaker 1: So many bad coaches. Some of the good ones. I'm
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Speaker 1: not even certain they're any good. with so many bad coaches.
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Speaker 1: All right, I will start here with, since it's in
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Speaker 1: honor of Aaron Glenn, I'll start with a Jet head coach, possibly,
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Speaker 1: and this is saying a lot, the worst Jets coach
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Speaker 1: in the history of Jets head coaches. I will start
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Speaker 1: with Rich Koteich. That was number one on my board.
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Speaker 1: On your power rankings?
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Was it really?
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Speaker 5: That was 1-1 on my board.
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Speaker 1: I think universally, Rich Cotite is number one on everyone's
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Speaker 1: power ranking.
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Speaker 3: It's the only thing in sports we agree on.
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Speaker 5: So when you are the worst coach in Jets history,
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Speaker 5: that really says something about you. Yes.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: No question about it.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 1: And that position has been held by Adam Gase. And
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Speaker 1: is currently being held by Aaron Glenn.
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Speaker 3: All right, Taylor, you're up here. So my first one
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Speaker 3: is Rich Cotite.
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Speaker 5: So I can't let this pick go to Ricardo because
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Speaker 5: in South Florida, there's one name you think of when
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Speaker 5: you think of worst NFL head coaches ever.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I'm going with Cam Cameron.
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Speaker 3: Beautiful choice. I was debating between Cam Cameron and Rich Cotite.
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Speaker 5: Those were always going to be the first two names
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Speaker 5: off the board.
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Speaker 6: Yes.
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Speaker 1: And for people who are unfamiliar with Cam Cameron's work,
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Speaker 1: he was the offensive coordinator, I think, for the Green
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Speaker 1: Bay Packers when McCarthy was there. I believe he was
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Speaker 1: assigned all the traits and responsibilities that we give Kevin O'Connell,
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Speaker 1: quarterback whisperer, going to make your offense good. Sometimes coaches
17:29
Speaker 1: are just better off being a coordinator. But for people
17:35
Speaker 1: unfamiliar with Cam Cameron, here is some sound of why
17:39
Speaker 1: Cam Cameron was such a bad head coach for the Dolphins.
17:43
Speaker 1: I want guys going out in this game not being
17:45
Speaker 1: afraid to fail. But if you fail, fail forward.
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Speaker 6: What does that mean?
17:49
Speaker 4: Well, if you're failing forward, that means you're failing, but
17:51
Speaker 4: you're learning.
17:51
Speaker 5: And then you've got to learn fast.
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Speaker 3: Fail forward.
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Speaker 1: Here is Cam Cameron trying to convince Dolphin fans that
17:59
Speaker 1: Ted Ginn was a good draft pick.
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Speaker 5: Hey, we need that thumb to go this direction.
18:07
Speaker 1: They had their thumbs down. He wanted thumbs up. He
18:09
Speaker 1: welcomed in the Ginn family as if they were playing football.
18:14
Speaker 1: We got Ted Ginn, and we got a great family. Unfortunately,
18:19
Speaker 1: their son stunk at football, and he was a lousy
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Speaker 1: head coach.
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Speaker 3: Good choice. Ricardo, who do you have here?
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Speaker 5: I'm going to go with Bobby Petrino for the Atlanta Falcons.
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Speaker 4: Yes, that's a great one.
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Speaker 5: Quit midseason. Just left a note to the team that
18:34
Speaker 5: he was leaving.
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Speaker 3: He got a better job for me. hired in Arkansas.
18:39
Speaker 1: Yeah that's why he left three and three and ten
18:44
Speaker 1: for Bobby Petrino yeah yep uh you have the swing pick.
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Speaker 5: Here and then for my second pick I'm gonna go
18:51
Speaker 5: with um Urban Meyer.
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Speaker 3: Wow that's a good one Urban Meyer's a good one.
18:57
Speaker 5: You almost forget about his year in Jacksonville it was
19:00
Speaker 5: so bad it.
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Speaker 1: Was just a year huh yeah wow I think he
19:04
Speaker 1: kicked the kicker He did kick a kicker.
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Speaker 3: What was the record in Jacksonville that year?
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Speaker 5: Two and 11.
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Speaker 1: All right, Taylor, you're up here. So Urban Meyer, that
19:17
Speaker 1: is a good one, man. I have to cross him
19:18
Speaker 1: off my short list.
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Speaker 5: So this name just takes me back to a different
19:23
Speaker 5: time in the NFL. I'm going to draft Marty Morningweg here.
19:28
Speaker 5: Five and 27 as an NFL head coach and the
19:32
Speaker 5: moment for Marty Morningweg. is when he kicked the ball
19:36
Speaker 5: to the Bears after winning the coin toss in sudden
19:39
Speaker 5: death overtime. And the Bears just went right down the
19:41
Speaker 5: field and kicked the field goal. Won the toss.
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Speaker 4: Yes.
19:47
Speaker 5: Wanted the wind.
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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm off here.
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Speaker 1: To take a phone call, but we'll get to you
19:52
Speaker 1: in just a second.
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Speaker 3: All right. So I have two here, Taylor.
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Speaker 5: Yep.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to go with Nick Saban. Hey, 16 and 18,
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Speaker 3: two years with the Dolphins.
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Speaker 1: Just based on the expectations we had for Nick Saban
20:07
Speaker 1: coming into the NFL and what.
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Speaker 3: He actually did.
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Speaker 1: Major disappointment. So Saban is on my Mount Rushmore of
20:14
Speaker 1: worst NFL coaches.
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Speaker 4: Of all time.
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Speaker 1: The rare guy who's on a Mount Rushmore of worst
20:19
Speaker 1: NFL coaches and on the Mount Rushmore of greatest college coaches.
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Speaker 3: What was that, Dan?
20:24
Speaker 4: That was a drop that Sam played. Go ahead, Sam.
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Speaker 4: I love it here. There it was. Nick Saban.
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Speaker 5: Belichick might also be on that path of Mount Rushmore.
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Speaker 5: He could be.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's your Mount Rushmore.
20:35
Speaker 4: By the way, Golden Ticket's still alive. Golden Ticket's still alive.
20:39
Speaker 5: I'm happy as hell. Yes.
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Speaker 1: It couldn't be Rod Martinelli, right? He never won a game.
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Speaker 1: I think he was 0-16.
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Speaker 4: I know Rod Marinelli was.
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Speaker 3: Rod, did I call him? What did I call him?
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Speaker 4: You called him Rod. You got the Rod right. Martinelli. Yes,
20:54
Speaker 4: it was Martinelli.
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Speaker 3: I was thinking of Nick Martinelli, a former.
20:57
Speaker 1: Northwestern basketball player who's sitting on the end of the
20:59
Speaker 1: bench for an NBA team right now.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to go Adam Gase just based on the
21:05
Speaker 3: press conference.
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Speaker 5: In the franchise. Yes.
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Speaker 1: I have two jet coaches on my Mount Rushmore of
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Speaker 1: worst coaches in NFL history.
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Speaker 7: All right.
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Speaker 3: So I have Saban and I have a, and I
21:17
Speaker 3: have Adam gaze.
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Speaker 4: Can we have done this just with jets coaches by
21:20
Speaker 4: the way? Like it's only jets.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 3: They've all been bad except for one.
21:26
Speaker 5: Okay. Two, my round three pick here. I can't let
21:30
Speaker 5: this guy go any further down in this board. Hugh Jackson.
21:35
Speaker 5: Had a 1-15 season, an 0-16 season. One of the
21:39
Speaker 5: worst coaches in NFL history.
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Speaker 4: Yes. So Bordock Ricardo is up next.
21:46
Speaker 5: For his last two picks.
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Speaker 8: Yes.
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Speaker 1: All right, so I'm going to go with another Jets
21:50
Speaker 1: head coach.
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Speaker 5: And that's Lou Holtz.
21:54
Speaker 1: He was the coach in the 70s, 1976.
21:57
Speaker 5: He went 3-10 and resigned with one game remaining in
22:00
Speaker 5: the regular season.
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Speaker 4: God, we were bad.
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Speaker 9: We were bad.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say Spags. I'm not going to
22:06
Speaker 1: be the one to say it. We love Spags. I'm
22:07
Speaker 1: not saying it. And for my next one, I'm going
22:09
Speaker 1: to go with Lane Kiffin.
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Speaker 3: That's pretty good. Yep.
22:14
Speaker 5: I think you guys have botched these drafts.
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Speaker 3: Dan, has the golden ticket been taken yet?
22:20
Speaker 4: It has not.
22:22
Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 10: Wow.
22:23
Speaker 6: But.
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Speaker 4: A silver ticket for the 78-yard Sebastian Genachowski field goal attempt.
22:31
Speaker 4: So I'm looking at my.
22:31
Speaker 5: Big board right now for this last pick.
22:34
Speaker 3: Nathaniel Hackett.
22:35
Speaker 5: My big board for this last pick, I have to
22:38
Speaker 5: have the Golden Goose on it because Hackett is on this.
22:40
Speaker 5: But I don't want to take Nathaniel Hackett, I don't think.
22:44
Speaker 5: But he was really bad.
22:45
Speaker 4: Can't Hackett.
22:47
Speaker 5: He was really bad. I am going to go... So
22:54
Speaker 5: this pick is a little biased for me. Joe Judge.
22:57
Speaker 5: Because Joe Judge was bad in New York, but the
22:59
Speaker 5: lasting memory I have of Joe Judge is trying to
23:02
Speaker 5: do a quarterback sneak on third and nine. And I
23:06
Speaker 5: think that display of coaching.
23:08
Speaker 3: Touch push.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that display of coaching on a third and nine
23:11
Speaker 5: when you're surprised that you can't get 10 yards. That
23:15
Speaker 5: elevates you to one of my worst coaches ever.
23:17
Speaker 8: Right.
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Speaker 1: Man, I'm trying to think of the golden goose or
23:23
Speaker 1: the golden tickets.
23:24
Speaker 4: It's all of the above.
23:25
Speaker 1: I'm trying to apply your Seahawk fandom. I'm thinking it
23:29
Speaker 1: might be Jim Zorn, who was just dreadful, but I
23:31
Speaker 1: don't think he would do that to Jim Zorn.
23:33
Speaker 5: Could be Rod and Rust.
23:34
Speaker 3: Yeah.
23:36
Speaker 5: Dave Shula.
23:38
Speaker 3: Did someone say Hugh Jackson?
23:39
Speaker 5: Yeah.
23:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, Steeler got him in the third round.
23:42
Speaker 5: That's a steal.
23:44
Speaker 1: I'm going to say Matt Patricia, who was 13-29-1 with
23:46
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. Matt Patricia. Matt Patricia. Because none of
23:50
Speaker 1: those coaches from the Belichick coaching tree were good anywhere
23:53
Speaker 1: else but with Belichick, including Josh McDaniels, who's.
23:56
Speaker 4: Also a good one.
23:57
Speaker 1: All right, so that's my four.
23:58
Speaker 4: All right, so we done? We complete here?
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
24:02
Speaker 1: Do you want to take some calls here before you
24:05
Speaker 1: give out the winner of the week? All right, let's
24:07
Speaker 1: go out to Kevin, who is in Minnesota today.
24:10
Speaker 3: Kevin, go ahead. You are on Fox Sports Radio.
24:13
Speaker 10: Yeah, back for more bashing on KOC. Perfect topic, you know.
24:20
Speaker 10: This is coming from somebody who wanted Tomlin. We went
24:24
Speaker 10: with Brad Childress. You know, I'm a Jim Harbaugh fan.
24:29
Speaker 10: Jim got to his second interview with the Vikings brass,
24:32
Speaker 10: but we had this triangle of authority. And I swear
24:36
Speaker 10: to you that Jim didn't want us to succumb to
24:40
Speaker 10: that or have to indoctrinated. He wasn't going to get
24:45
Speaker 10: the power that he wanted. So we go with Kevin
24:47
Speaker 10: O'Connell because I bet he agrees to this triangle of authority.
24:52
Speaker 10: So we've got now a GM from Schneider Tree from Seattle,
24:58
Speaker 10: and hopefully he cleans.
24:59
Speaker 1: This mess up.
25:00
Speaker 10: But, you know, it's a bummer. It's a shame because
25:03
Speaker 10: Kevin O'Connell, he's We listen to his press conferences up
25:06
Speaker 10: here in the north, and he's readily admitted this season
25:11
Speaker 10: that he fell into this trap of needing big plays
25:16
Speaker 10: and fancy offense when really it's just all about winning
25:19
Speaker 10: the game. Well, you know, it's, I, I don't believe
25:24
Speaker 10: him because this whole tenure up here, you know, we're
25:27
Speaker 10: fourth and we're, we're, we're at the one yard line
25:30
Speaker 10: and he does all these fancy trickery plays that never works.
25:34
Speaker 10: He's still doing it in the Colts game.
25:36
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just run the ball, run the ball
25:38
Speaker 5: up the gut.
25:38
Speaker 7: Run the ball.
25:40
Speaker 3: I understand that. Calm down.
25:42
Speaker 1: I need you to calm down because you're 6-0. I mean,
25:45
Speaker 1: you're talking about this mess that everyone has to clean up.
25:47
Speaker 1: You haven't lost a game yet. I would kill for
25:50
Speaker 1: that kind of mess.
25:51
Speaker 4: I mean. I thought he was just going to say
25:53
Speaker 4: less steckle. Kevin wouldn't last a week as a Jets fan,
25:58
Speaker 4: by the way.
25:58
Speaker 3: I mean, Jesus. It's not that bad, dude.
26:02
Speaker 4: You're fine.
26:02
Speaker 1: Do you think Kevin O'Connell goes home? Do you think
26:05
Speaker 1: he's happy with his 6-0, Kevin O'Connell? Like, do you
26:08
Speaker 1: think he looks in the mirror when he goes home
26:10
Speaker 1: and says, hey, the offense just ain't doing what it's
26:12
Speaker 1: supposed to do?
26:12
Speaker 5: He knows it's a bit fraudulent, I think.
26:14
Speaker 3: He knows it.
26:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, when he lays his head down, he's like, yeah,
26:16
Speaker 5: we're kind of frauds.
26:18
Speaker 3: Does Kevin O'Connell put it on the poll?
26:19
Speaker 1: Does he look in the mirror and say to himself,
26:23
Speaker 1: none of this 6-0 start has anything to do with me?
26:26
Speaker 4: Can I also point out, this may be the first
26:28
Speaker 4: time ever in sports talk history that one fan would
26:32
Speaker 4: trade his head coach who's undefeated for a coach who
26:34
Speaker 4: hasn't won a game this year? Because that is what happened.
26:39
Speaker 4: When he said we should have had Jim Harbaugh.
26:42
Speaker 5: Yes.
26:44
Speaker 3: Who was winless. The last winless coach in the NFL.
26:47
Speaker 4: I doubt it's ever happened. Has to be a first.
26:52
Speaker 3: He'd still do it today. He would trade O'Connell for Harbaugh.
26:56
Speaker 1: Straight up today. All right, let's go out to 877-99
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Speaker 1: on Fox. Matt, who's in Indiana today.
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Speaker 3: Matt, go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
27:05
Speaker 6: Thanks for taking the call. I'm not sure if this
27:08
Speaker 6: is a fair assessment or not. Are we including interim
27:12
Speaker 6: head coaches?
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Speaker 5: We weren't, but if you have one, Matt, we'll take it.
27:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll put it on there.
27:19
Speaker 6: All right. How about Jeff Saturday for the Indianapolis Colts interim.
27:25
Speaker 9: With one and seven? I don't know if it was
27:28
Speaker 9: worse on him for stepping in it or worse on
27:32
Speaker 9: the GM and the owners for Hey, why don't you
27:36
Speaker 9: come in and take over this team?
27:39
Speaker 4: Yeah.
27:40
Speaker 3: Okay, do you have three more or just Jeff Saturday?
27:47
Speaker 4: Okay.
27:48
Speaker 3: Jeff Saturday, I believe he won the first game, did
27:50
Speaker 3: he not?
27:50
Speaker 4: Yes, he did.
27:52
Speaker 5: Got off to a hot start.
27:53
Speaker 4: And, ironically enough, the game we all remember was when
27:56
Speaker 4: they blew the lead to the Vikings. That's right. Right?
27:59
Speaker 4: And guess who played this past weekend?
28:04
Speaker 1: That was, listen, it was a desperate hire, right? It
28:06
Speaker 1: was kind of like a gimmicky kind of hire.
28:09
Speaker 5: It felt like a favor to Jim Irsay.
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Speaker 10: Right.
28:11
Speaker 1: He needed someone. He loves Jim Irsay. He loves the Colts.
28:14
Speaker 1: He's a good team guy, Jeff Saturday. We love Jeff Saturday.
28:17
Speaker 1: He's been on the show. He did it because he
28:19
Speaker 1: was asked to do it, right?
28:20
Speaker 3: Is that fair, Dan?
28:21
Speaker 5: He must have thought NFL head coaching was so easy
28:24
Speaker 5: when they beat the Raiders to start. This is what
28:27
Speaker 5: everybody says is so hard to do.
28:30
Speaker 1: He thought he was going to parlay it into a
28:32
Speaker 1: 10-year deal.
28:32
Speaker 5: He thought he was going into Hall of Fame as
28:34
Speaker 5: a player and then back in as a coach.
28:36
Speaker 4: I think he wanted someone to live in the house
28:39
Speaker 4: and not rearrange all the furniture, and they'll just get
28:41
Speaker 4: to it later. It doesn't matter if it's a disaster.
28:45
Speaker 4: Just keep it the Colt way. That's what I think
28:48
Speaker 4: he wanted to do.
28:50
Speaker 1: Let's quickly here, before we get to the results of
28:52
Speaker 1: this week's Mount Rushmore, let's go out to Alaska.
28:55
Speaker 3: Wow, let's go to Mike, who's in Alaska today. Mike,
28:58
Speaker 3: go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 7: Well, thanks for taking my call.
29:02
Speaker 4: Sure.
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Speaker 8: My claim was already taken by one of your commentators there,
29:07
Speaker 8: Les Steckle for the Vikings.
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Speaker 3: Terrible guy. Okay, terrible guy.
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Speaker 1: I can't say anything about him that'll be good. Okay,
29:15
Speaker 1: but terrible coach. You didn't know him personally. It's rough
29:18
Speaker 1: to call him a terrible guy, right? He could be
29:19
Speaker 1: the nicest guy in the world.
29:21
Speaker 5: True.
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Speaker 7: He could be, but he was a rotten coach.
29:24
Speaker 1: All right. Thank you for the call. Dan, let's get
29:29
Speaker 1: to the results here.
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Speaker 3: You have me. You have Taylor. You have Bordot Ricardo.
29:33
Speaker 4: Yeah.
29:34
Speaker 3: Who is the winner of this week's Mount Rushmore?
29:35
Speaker 4: Well, I can tell you that the golden ticket, the
29:38
Speaker 4: golden goose, was not picked. But he was named. Rod
29:42
Speaker 4: Marinelli was the golden ticket.
29:45
Speaker 8: Damn!
29:46
Speaker 4: He was named, but he did not go selected. The
29:50
Speaker 4: reason being is they actually were 7-9 the year before,
29:55
Speaker 4: which is an improvement from the first year. But when
29:57
Speaker 4: you are the first to go 0-16, you're in a
29:59
Speaker 4: class of your own.
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Speaker 9: Yes.
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Speaker 4: There were some really good picks. How do I know that? Well,
30:06
Speaker 4: Todd Munkin currently has the same amount of wins as
30:09
Speaker 4: Marty morning wag in his career that they're both at
30:14
Speaker 4: five guests who also has five wins in his career
30:17
Speaker 4: lane Kiffin. I'm telling you, we've got some really good
30:19
Speaker 4: picks here. Ultimately It came down to the details and
30:24
Speaker 4: the details were cam Cameron on the mic. It was
30:28
Speaker 4: Marty morning wag and, and his decision to not take
30:33
Speaker 4: the ball in overtime. Taylor, you're the winner. Ricardo, a
30:36
Speaker 4: close second. Still, you're bringing on the bronze.
30:42
Speaker 5: Oh, God.
30:43
Speaker 1: I said it, though.
30:44
Speaker 3: Had I said it, would I be the winner?
30:46
Speaker 4: You would have been top two for sure. Oh, God.
30:49
Speaker 4: Taylor's got a really strong, like when you want to
30:51
Speaker 4: talk about like just chaos and mismanagement. Yes. Yeah. There's
30:57
Speaker 4: some high points. And we got to see Hugh Jackson
30:59
Speaker 4: on hard knocks just to see like how much of
31:01
Speaker 4: a mess that was. Right.
31:04
Speaker 1: But I armed Taylor with that sound. He was unaware
31:06
Speaker 1: of the sound. I told him about the sound. He
31:08
Speaker 1: gave me nothing. I gave him the sound. I should
31:10
Speaker 1: get an assist there. I mean, I feel like I should.
31:15
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Gatz and
31:18
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31:20
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31:21
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31:28
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31:30
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31:33
Speaker 1: We'll get to Taylor's power rankings in just a second.
31:37
Speaker 1: We have one lonely, sad phone call here from Jeremy
31:41
Speaker 1: in North Dakota. Let's go to him. He wants to
31:43
Speaker 1: talk about the worst head coach in NFL history.
31:46
Speaker 3: Jeremy, go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
31:48
Speaker 8: Are you talking to me?
31:50
Speaker 5: Yes.
31:50
Speaker 3: Are you Jeremy?
31:53
Speaker 8: My name's Jared. I'm in North Carolina, but close enough.
31:56
Speaker 3: All right, Jared in North Carolina, go ahead. You're on
31:58
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 8: Sorry about that. So, yeah, I just wanted to– by
32:05
Speaker 8: the way, you guys nailed the entire Mount Rushmore that
32:08
Speaker 8: I had.
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Speaker 11: That was great.
32:10
Speaker 3: Good job.
32:11
Speaker 8: Taylor stole my thunder because I was going to bring
32:12
Speaker 8: up the Urban Meyer kick in the kicker, which is
32:15
Speaker 8: just actually an insane story if you think about it.
32:18
Speaker 8: Why would you kick your kicker if you wanted to
32:20
Speaker 8: make kicks?
32:20
Speaker 5: But anyway. Sending a message. I was going to– Exactly.
32:24
Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Sending a message, I guess.
32:27
Speaker 8: So Stu, you know, I've been listening to you for
32:29
Speaker 8: a while, Stu, you know how much I love you,
32:31
Speaker 8: but you know, you, you guys in my lions, man,
32:34
Speaker 8: I don't know what it is, but I feel like
32:36
Speaker 8: I got to call in every, every week to defend
32:38
Speaker 8: my guy, Dan Campbell. You know, I mean, I, I,
32:42
Speaker 8: I feel like if Dan Campbell loses that game to
32:44
Speaker 8: the Cardinals or if that game against the Cardinals last
32:46
Speaker 8: week is close, you know, everybody's talking about firing him,
32:49
Speaker 8: you know, and all that. And I don't know, everybody
32:51
Speaker 8: like questions his fourth down decisions and, and, you know,
32:54
Speaker 8: I don't really understand it. You know, the offense is,
32:56
Speaker 8: is excellent. You know, they go for it twice on
32:59
Speaker 8: fourth down and they, they don't get it due to
33:01
Speaker 8: weird things that happen in that game. And they, they,
33:04
Speaker 8: they won though. That's, that's the crazy part that I just,
33:07
Speaker 8: I don't understand. I just always kind of feel like
33:08
Speaker 8: I got to defend my guy, Dan Campbell from, you know,
33:11
Speaker 8: everybody always being like, Oh, fourth down, this always a
33:13
Speaker 8: Ben Johnson merchant. And I just think that's just a
33:16
Speaker 8: little silly, but.
33:17
Speaker 1: Right. I don't know. I don't feel like there's that much.
33:21
Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. Appreciate it. I don't feel Taylor.
33:23
Speaker 1: Do you like there's that much criticism.
33:25
Speaker 3: Of Dan Campbell? I would love to have Dan Campbell
33:27
Speaker 3: be my head coach.
33:27
Speaker 1: I think Dan Campbell has exceeded whatever expectations people had
33:31
Speaker 1: for him. when he took over as the Lions head coach.
33:34
Speaker 1: He doesn't look the part of a head coach.
33:37
Speaker 3: He's big. He's muscular.
33:39
Speaker 1: That's not the way coaches normally look. He looks like
33:41
Speaker 1: he could still play. But I love Dan Campbell. I
33:44
Speaker 1: would love for him to be my head coach.
33:46
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think people just bashed him yesterday for him
33:49
Speaker 5: going for it on that fourth down. And you're kind
33:51
Speaker 5: of playing the result there where they don't get the
33:53
Speaker 5: first down and keep the drive going. And if you
33:57
Speaker 5: turn the ball over there in that situation, I understand
33:59
Speaker 5: Dan Campbell's logic to be like, okay, if we punt
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Speaker 5: the ball to the Packers and the Packers go on
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Speaker 5: this long drive, there's a chance Jared Goff never touches
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Speaker 5: the ball again. If we turn the ball over there
34:10
Speaker 5: and we don't pick up the first down conversion, we're
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Speaker 5: guaranteed to get a possession in this game because of
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Speaker 5: how much time is remaining and how short a field
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Speaker 5: you're giving the Packers. Ultimately, it wound up working in
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Speaker 5: his favor because the Packers kicker was struggling all day
34:28
Speaker 5: making chip shot field goals.
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Speaker 3: It's interesting.
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Speaker 1: The Lions and Dan Campbell, he is a good coach.
34:35
Speaker 1: Like he's a guy that I would want to be
34:37
Speaker 1: my NFL coach, but that's another division where I have
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Speaker 1: no idea. Like, the NFL is as wide open this
34:43
Speaker 1: year as it's ever been. You're not sold on Kansas City.
34:45
Speaker 1: You're not sold on Seattle. You're not sold on the Vikings,
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Speaker 1: even though they're undefeated. And you're certainly not sold on
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Speaker 1: the Niners after last week. It might all come back
34:53
Speaker 1: to the Rams. And the Rams might just get healthy
34:55
Speaker 1: at the right time, Taylor.
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Speaker 5: If I could circle back to the Urban Meyer thing
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Speaker 5: for a second.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 5: One of the craziest parts of that story, he just
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Speaker 5: mentioned how underrated it was, the kicking the kicker. Remember
35:08
Speaker 5: when he hired the strength and conditioning coach from Iowa
35:10
Speaker 5: and everybody was like, isn't this guy kind of racist
35:13
Speaker 5: and a little bit problematic? And Irvin Meyer was like, no,
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Speaker 5: he's a great guy. And then he got fired almost
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Speaker 5: immediately when past allegations of mistreatment and racist language by
35:24
Speaker 5: former players comes out. Also, that coach, Chris Doyle, that's
35:28
Speaker 5: Declan Doyle, the Ravens offensive coordinator. That's his dad.
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Speaker 3: Oh, really?
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Doyles.
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Speaker 1: A couple of Doyles. Urban Meyer didn't do a single
35:36
Speaker 1: thing right at the NFL level. Did a lot right
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Speaker 1: at the college level, we think. Didn't do a lot right,
35:43
Speaker 1: anything right, in the NFL.
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Speaker 3: It is funny.
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Speaker 1: We were having this raging debate argument last week about
35:51
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson and who.
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Speaker 3: Deserves the credit.
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Speaker 4: Is it Caleb?
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Speaker 3: Is it Ben?
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Speaker 4: Is it Ben?
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Speaker 3: Is it Caleb?
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Speaker 1: And I always side on the side of the quarterback,
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Speaker 1: of the player, because Caleb Williams was great before Ben
36:06
Speaker 1: Johnson got there, and Caleb Williams would have been great
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Speaker 1: eventually with someone as his head coach.
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Speaker 3: It's kind of like Michael Jordan.
36:14
Speaker 1: Eventually, somebody was going to win the six titles with Jordan,
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Speaker 1: and that somebody was Phil Jackson. But since Dan Campbell
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Speaker 1: just came up, Taylor, Ben Johnson is gone.
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Speaker 3: He's long gone. He's in Chicago.
36:30
Speaker 1: Have you seen Jared Goff's numbers this year since you
36:33
Speaker 1: love to give all these great characteristics and assign all
36:37
Speaker 1: these attributes to Ben Johnson and say that he's the
36:40
Speaker 1: reason for Caleb's success? Jared Goff without Ben Johnson is
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Speaker 1: having the greatest season of Jared Goff's career, and he
36:47
Speaker 1: might be the MVP of the NFL.
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Speaker 5: I mean, it helps having Jamison Williams and Amara St.
36:52
Speaker 5: Brown and Jameer Gibbs. What I think it comes down to,
36:55
Speaker 5: the great quarterback is ingredients to a great dish. The
36:59
Speaker 5: coach is just the master chef.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Taylor's Power Rankings coming up next. We'll get to Taylor's
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Speaker 1: Power Rankings here in just a second. We're all excited
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Speaker 1: for those. 877-99 on Fox. Let's take some calls here.
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Speaker 1: Taylor at Sports Radio will drive you crazy, man. I
37:16
Speaker 1: was having a conversation in the studio by myself. The
37:20
Speaker 1: mic happened to be on. Taylor was listening. He asked
37:22
Speaker 1: me what the hell I was talking about. And what
37:23
Speaker 1: I was talking about were all the Giant fans who
37:25
Speaker 1: were complaining about their GM and wanted him fired.
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Speaker 3: Before the season started. That guy is Joe Shane. He
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Speaker 3: got you J.J.
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Speaker 1: McCarthy for a fifth round pick. He also selected Malik Neighbors.
37:35
Speaker 1: He also selected Jackson Dart. And if it sounds like
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Speaker 1: I'm a propaganda machine for Joe Shane, I am. He's
37:41
Speaker 1: my friend.
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Speaker 3: There, I said it.
37:45
Speaker 1: And he's been on the show several times. Taylor, Giant
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Speaker 1: fans still clamoring and wanting him to be fired?
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Speaker 3: No. No, I'm guessing not.
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Speaker 5: No, I haven't heard any of those complaints coming out
37:55
Speaker 5: of East Rutherford, New Jersey.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why I went to you like you
38:01
Speaker 1: have boots on the ground in East Rutherford, New Jersey.
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Speaker 3: I normally do. I know you do. Let's go out
38:06
Speaker 3: to Eric, who's in Phoenix today. Eric, go ahead. You're
38:09
Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio.
38:11
Speaker 7: Hi, how you doing? You know, honestly, I don't remember
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Speaker 7: what his record was, but just for the comedy aspect
38:15
Speaker 7: of it, I can't believe you guys didn't mention Gilbride
38:18
Speaker 7: because I know he coached the Chargers. But, I mean,
38:21
Speaker 7: Buddy Ryan took a swing out of me. He was
38:22
Speaker 7: so bad.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Kevin Gilbride, I'm checking out the coaching record right now.
38:30
Speaker 1: I'm laughing just because he's a funny name. The coaching
38:35
Speaker 1: record on Kevin Gilbride.
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Speaker 11: See?
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Speaker 5: 6-16.
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Speaker 1: Really?
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Speaker 3: I had 9-23 overall.
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Speaker 5: Oh, with the Chargers.
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Speaker 3: Yes, with the Chargers. It's a name that should have
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Speaker 3: been mentioned. We apologize, sir.
38:49
Speaker 1: Let's go out to Derek, who's in Vermont today, before
38:51
Speaker 1: we get to Taylor's power rankings.
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Speaker 3: Go ahead, Derek.
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Speaker 5: Hey, how's it going, guys?
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Speaker 11: I have a question for Taylor. What would be the
38:58
Speaker 11: bigger death blow to the Jets for him? The Jets
39:01
Speaker 11: over-trapping a quarterback in the top three picks or believing
39:06
Speaker 11: in J.J. McCarthy and giving up draft capital to take
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Speaker 11: on JJ McCarthy.
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Speaker 5: That would be the most jets thing of all time. Yeah.
39:14
Speaker 5: Convincing themselves that one of these quarterbacks that's having a
39:17
Speaker 5: little bit of resurgence is all of a sudden their
39:19
Speaker 5: answer at the franchise quarterback position. But Stu, I know
39:23
Speaker 5: what people are going to say when it comes to
39:25
Speaker 5: the jets. It's like their jets are going to find
39:27
Speaker 5: a way to screw that up. And part of me
39:29
Speaker 5: does believe that because their head coaching search keeps getting
39:32
Speaker 5: worse and worse every time. If they have three picks
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Speaker 5: in the top 15.
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Speaker 6: Yes.
39:37
Speaker 5: Just pick three quarterbacks. One of them has to be good.
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Speaker 3: Or trade one of those first-round picks for J.J. McCarthy.
39:45
Speaker 1: No, that would be such a bad option. I'm joking, Taylor,
39:48
Speaker 1: but it's something the Jets would do. The Giants give
39:51
Speaker 1: up a fifth. The Jets give the Giants a first.
39:54
Speaker 1: It is going to be interesting if J.J. McCarthy continues
39:56
Speaker 1: to play the way he played yesterday. Granted, it was
39:59
Speaker 1: one game. What's going to happen? When Jackson Dark comes back. That,
40:02
Speaker 1: to me, will be interesting. All right, let's get to
40:05
Speaker 1: Taylor's power rankings. We have Adam Thielen joining us in
40:08
Speaker 1: about 15 minutes. Any changes to the power rankings from
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Speaker 1: last week, Taylor?
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Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 5: So it is the top 10 in the NFL after
40:16
Speaker 5: week seven, even though there's a Monday night football game tonight.
40:19
Speaker 5: Four teams have fallen out of the top 10.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 5: The Carolina Panthers, the Houston Texans.
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Speaker 11: Wow.
40:25
Speaker 5: The New England Patriots and the Green Bay Packers.
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Speaker 4: Wow.
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Speaker 8: All out.
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Speaker 6: Wow.
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Speaker 3: The Patriots are out, huh?
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
40:31
Speaker 3: Interesting.
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Speaker 1: The Texans are out. You're bailing on them that quickly.
40:35
Speaker 1: They were back last week.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
40:36
Speaker 4: Okay.
40:36
Speaker 8: Wow.
40:37
Speaker 3: The NFL is crazy, man.
40:38
Speaker 5: It's hard to support a two and five team.
40:40
Speaker 3: I know.
40:40
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, the league is crazy. It is
40:43
Speaker 1: absolutely insane. We had zero questions about the chiefs. And
40:46
Speaker 1: now all we do is have questions about the chiefs.
40:51
Speaker 1: I love the NFL. All right, go ahead. So you
40:53
Speaker 1: have 10 teams here. This is your top 10 NFL teams.
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Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 5: Number 10. They played in Paris yesterday morning. the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 3: What a game.
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Speaker 5: So they're not overwhelming anybody on the offensive side of
41:07
Speaker 5: the ball, but I love their defense and Jalen Warren's
41:12
Speaker 5: emergence at the running back position makes me respect this
41:15
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh offense a lot more.
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Speaker 3: Right.
41:18
Speaker 5: And they have shown the ability that they can win
41:20
Speaker 5: close games, which is going to make them a dangerous opponent.
41:23
Speaker 3: Yes. You have to give Aaron Rogers credit. He's been good.
41:26
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's been great.
41:28
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he's been good and good enough for
41:30
Speaker 1: that team to win football games.
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Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: I like it.
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Speaker 5: Number nine. Yes. So they're moving down from last week.
41:37
Speaker 5: I believe last week they were maybe six.
41:39
Speaker 4: Wow.
41:40
Speaker 5: The Jacksonville Jaguars.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 3: Moving them all the way down to nine.
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Speaker 6: Huh?
41:44
Speaker 1: Wow.
41:45
Speaker 5: The Jags maintain their spot in the top 10 because
41:48
Speaker 5: sometimes the best thing you could do in the NFL
41:51
Speaker 5: is simply not play. And the Jaguars won the bye week.
41:54
Speaker 5: The Texans, the Colts, the Titans all lose. So the Jaguars,
41:58
Speaker 5: by default, extended their AFC South lead.
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Speaker 1: All right. Who do the Jaguars have this week coming up?
42:03
Speaker 1: They have the Colts at home, so they'll be back
42:06
Speaker 1: to number six next week.
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Speaker 5: You would assume so.
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Speaker 3: All right. Number eight here, Taylor's power rankings in the NFL.
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Speaker 5: Number eight this week. They were number one last week.
42:17
Speaker 5: So this is a stark drop.
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Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 1: The chiefs all the way to chiefs. Dan Meyer.
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Speaker 3: Are you here?
42:24
Speaker 1: This is why the NFL has a monopoly on all
42:28
Speaker 1: of us. The chiefs were the best team in the
42:30
Speaker 1: NFL a week ago. They lose the Dan Seahawks and
42:33
Speaker 1: they've dropped all the way to eight.
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Speaker 4: What's amazing is that's an eight spot drop yet. Jacksonville
42:38
Speaker 4: fell about half that without.
42:39
Speaker 1: Even doing anything.
42:41
Speaker 5: I don't know.
42:41
Speaker 4: I don't know if I can trust Taylor's method here.
42:45
Speaker 5: So the chiefs finally looked vulnerable and Seattle exposed some
42:49
Speaker 5: legitimate concerns about their offense. I think Kansas city needs
42:52
Speaker 5: a legit wide receiver one to turn to when defense
42:55
Speaker 5: is key in on Kenneth Walker and nothing, nothing makes
42:59
Speaker 5: Travis Kelsey look older than when the chiefs offense struggles.
43:04
Speaker 3: And meanwhile, the Seahawks have the best number one in
43:07
Speaker 3: all of football, man.
43:08
Speaker 4: Is he good?
43:09
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigba. I mean, I nail that every
43:12
Speaker 1: time I say it. Mike Tirico got it wrong last night.
43:16
Speaker 3: Was it Tirico?
43:17
Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Yes.
43:18
Speaker 3: I was feeling good about myself.
43:20
Speaker 4: I love Mike.
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Speaker 1: We love Mike.
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Speaker 5: Number seven, Taylor. Number seven. The only undefeated team in
43:26
Speaker 5: the NFL, the Minnesota Vikings.
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Speaker 3: At number seven.
43:29
Speaker 5: At number seven. We're finally getting to the meat of
43:31
Speaker 5: their schedule. Getting fat off of bad teams.
43:36
Speaker 4: Held back because of bad head coaching, right? That's why
43:38
Speaker 4: they're not higher.
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Speaker 3: I think so, yeah. I mean, imagine. They're a head
43:43
Speaker 3: coach away, Dan.
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Speaker 5: They'd probably be in the top five if they had
43:46
Speaker 5: a good head coach.
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Speaker 1: And that head coach is standing right next to the
43:49
Speaker 1: actual head coach.
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Speaker 3: Should be coach of the year.
43:52
Speaker 1: How about that? Head coach of the year, yes.
43:56
Speaker 3: How about that? So it's funny.
43:58
Speaker 5: You should mention coach of the year.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
44:00
Speaker 5: Because number six, the New York giants. I think the
44:04
Speaker 5: giants winning as plus as a 10 point underdog on
44:08
Speaker 5: the road against Houston with JJ McCarthy starting shocking. I
44:11
Speaker 5: think our boss playing his way into the NFL coach
44:14
Speaker 5: of the year conversation. And I think he's probably the
44:16
Speaker 5: front runner at this point.
44:17
Speaker 1: I think John Harbaugh of active coaches is probably on
44:20
Speaker 1: the Mount Rushmore of active coaches, right?
44:22
Speaker 5: Yeah.
44:23
Speaker 1: Like we shouldn't be surprised that he's, he's doing a
44:25
Speaker 1: good coaching job. It's what he does. And Baltimore, meanwhile,
44:28
Speaker 1: is without Lamar Jackson again and again and again and again.
44:32
Speaker 5: John Harbaugh is winning the breakup so far.
44:37
Speaker 3: He certainly is.
44:37
Speaker 1: And he is the front runner for coach of the year.
44:40
Speaker 1: That's fair.
44:41
Speaker 3: Number five, Taylor.
44:42
Speaker 5: Number five. Their uniforms are number one. The Seattle Seahawks
44:48
Speaker 5: state the win against Kansas City. Holding the homes and
44:51
Speaker 5: the Chiefs to just three points. The exact kind of
44:54
Speaker 5: performance that changes everything. people's perception of.
44:57
Speaker 1: Your team dan let's start here do you agree the
44:59
Speaker 1: best uniforms in the nfl belong to the seahawks.
45:01
Speaker 4: Absolutely reminds me of my childhood they've been doing it
45:04
Speaker 4: against afc west squads did it with the broncos last
45:06
Speaker 4: week and then the chiefs this week.
45:09
Speaker 1: Uh do you feel slighted though that he only has
45:11
Speaker 1: seattle at five the reigning super bowl champs who are
45:13
Speaker 1: coming off a win against kansas city.
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Speaker 4: They wouldn't make the playoffs today i'm sure mikey's gonna
45:17
Speaker 4: tell you that later this week but yeah i'm fine
45:19
Speaker 4: at five if they're in the if uh They're in
45:22
Speaker 4: Taylor's power rankings there. He's right down there on the
45:24
Speaker 4: outside looking in.
45:25
Speaker 5: How bailed out did Sam Donald get with that red
45:27
Speaker 5: zone interception?
45:28
Speaker 4: Oh, no kidding.
45:29
Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
45:31
Speaker 4: Won a game.
45:31
Speaker 3: Wait, so if the season ended today, the Chiefs are
45:34
Speaker 3: the one seed?
45:35
Speaker 5: Yes.
45:37
Speaker 1: So he has them at number eight and Seattle at
45:38
Speaker 1: number five, and if the season ended today, they wouldn't
45:41
Speaker 1: be a playoff team.
45:43
Speaker 4: Power rankings. Yes, I'm starting to question.
45:46
Speaker 1: Him, too.
45:47
Speaker 3: But it's his power rankings, man. I mean, week to week.
45:52
Speaker 1: All right, Taylor, top four here. Number four in your
45:54
Speaker 1: NFL power rankings.
45:56
Speaker 5: Our biggest riser this week, the Denver Broncos.
45:59
Speaker 3: Congratulations to Bo Nix.
46:00
Speaker 5: Where Bo Nix kind of reminded everybody why there's so
46:03
Speaker 5: much excitement around his potential ceiling as a quarterback.
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Speaker 3: Good defense. That quarterback plays.
46:10
Speaker 5: They have the pieces to make some serious noise.
46:12
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, they made it to the AFC championship
46:14
Speaker 1: game a year ago.
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Speaker 5: And then Bo Nix got hurt. He hasn't looked like
46:16
Speaker 5: the same quarterback since, but.
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Speaker 3: Until last night. Until yesterday.
46:19
Speaker 4: That run.
46:19
Speaker 3: That run, man.
46:20
Speaker 2: Special.
46:21
Speaker 4: And a win over one of the elites in Arizona.
46:23
Speaker 4: I mean, like, you don't go to Glendale and think
46:27
Speaker 4: you're going to lead with a W, but they did.
46:28
Speaker 3: I mean, Arizona's coming off a win at the Rams.
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Speaker 5: They only win, though, in L.A.
46:36
Speaker 3: Dan does feel slighted. He does.
46:38
Speaker 4: I can tell.
46:39
Speaker 3: He doesn't care that Seahawks haven't made the playoffs. He
46:42
Speaker 3: thinks they should be higher than five. Number three, Taylor.
46:46
Speaker 5: Number three, the San Francisco 49ers. When healthy, they are
46:52
Speaker 5: still my most complete team in football.
46:55
Speaker 1: The problem.
46:56
Speaker 3: Never healthy.
46:57
Speaker 5: They are never going to be healthy.
46:58
Speaker 4: Ever.
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Speaker 7: Yes.
46:59
Speaker 4: Ever.
47:00
Speaker 3: Michael Penix looked good in that game yesterday. falcons yeah yeah.
47:04
Speaker 5: That was like a scheduled loss for the 49ers it was.
47:09
Speaker 1: Good loss they knew they were going to lose one
47:10
Speaker 1: that you know i'm not saying that he said this
47:13
Speaker 1: before the game kyle shanahan but he said guys it's
47:16
Speaker 1: okay it's across the country to atlanta all right we
47:19
Speaker 1: have two more number two.
47:20
Speaker 5: The buffalo bills you have josh allen you're most likely
47:23
Speaker 5: going to find your way in the top two no.
47:26
Speaker 3: Doubt didn't play.
47:29
Speaker 1: Didn't play just stayed put yeah right All right, this
47:32
Speaker 1: is exciting because the Chiefs were number one last week.
47:35
Speaker 5: Not a good sign for this new.
47:39
Speaker 3: Team.
47:39
Speaker 1: The best team in the NFL through seven weeks, according
47:42
Speaker 1: to Taylor.
47:43
Speaker 5: The best team in the NFL right now and the
47:45
Speaker 5: most exciting quarterback in the NFL and the best head
47:48
Speaker 5: coach in the NFL right now, the Chicago Bears. Legitimate
47:54
Speaker 5: Super Bowl contender.
47:55
Speaker 1: Yes, greatest quarterback to ever play the game of football,
47:57
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. Our thanks to Adam Thielen for joining us.
48:01
Speaker 1: I miss that man. Taylor, you were thinking what I
48:03
Speaker 1: was thinking while we were doing Adam Thielen, the interview.
48:06
Speaker 1: That's a good-looking man, and that's a man who's going
48:08
Speaker 1: to win. the Tahoe tournament simply because he has time
48:11
Speaker 1: on his hands. He's already good at golf, and now
48:14
Speaker 1: he has extra time on his hands, and Marty Fish,
48:16
Speaker 1: his dear friend, is in big, big trouble.
48:20
Speaker 5: You want to talk about looking the part? Adam Thielen
48:23
Speaker 5: looks every bit the part.
48:26
Speaker 1: If you saw Adam Thielen on a driving range, you
48:28
Speaker 1: would guess and say, hey, amongst tour players, and say, hey,
48:32
Speaker 1: guess which one of these guys plays on the PGA Tour,
48:35
Speaker 1: a lot of people would guess Adam Thielen. That's what
48:37
Speaker 1: you're saying when you say he looks the part, right?
48:39
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm surprised Adam Thielen wouldn't back me up
48:41
Speaker 5: on the fact that I don't think Marty Fish should
48:43
Speaker 5: be eligible to go for a third championship at the
48:47
Speaker 5: American Century Championship. Yes. Especially because you have Thielen, who's
48:51
Speaker 5: never won the tournament. You look at some of his
48:53
Speaker 5: highest finishes. His highest finish at the American Century Championship
48:56
Speaker 5: was fourth place. You would think somebody like Adam Thielen— well,
48:59
Speaker 5: I guess Adam Thielen— He's a competitor.
49:01
Speaker 3: He's not us.
49:02
Speaker 2: Right.
49:03
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to eliminate his competition. He wants to
49:05
Speaker 3: beat his competition.
49:05
Speaker 5: He wants to beat Marty Fish. Because he knows in
49:08
Speaker 5: the back of his mind that if Marty Fish wasn't
49:11
Speaker 5: in the field, we would put an asterisk next to
49:13
Speaker 5: him winning the American Century.
49:15
Speaker 3: And by we, us.
49:16
Speaker 6: Yes.
49:17
Speaker 5: Me specifically.
49:18
Speaker 3: Because no one else is paying attention to that thing.
49:20
Speaker 1: I mean, they like it.
49:21
Speaker 3: They enjoy it. It's a nice thing in July. We
49:23
Speaker 3: love it.
49:23
Speaker 1: It's our Super Bowl. But yes, we would put an asterisk.
49:26
Speaker 1: I did it to Marty Fish the year he won
49:28
Speaker 1: it without fans there.
49:31
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got to do it against Joe Pavelski. You
49:33
Speaker 5: got to do it against Steph Curry, Marty Fish.
49:35
Speaker 6: Yes.
49:36
Speaker 3: Taylor, what was your biggest surprise?
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Speaker 1: Uh, over the weekend, there were a number of upsets
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Speaker 1: and I can tell you two, two outcomes, uh, one NFL,
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Speaker 1: one college, uh, that really shocked me in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't that Carolina lost. It's the way Carolina lost.
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Speaker 1: getting blown out by Tampa. You figure Baker does a
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Speaker 1: lot in that game. He's back. Baker didn't do anything.
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Speaker 1: He didn't have to. The running game was fantastic. The
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Speaker 1: other one for me, and this is really more, it's
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Speaker 1: an indictment on North Carolina. And so I'm sorry to
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Speaker 1: go here, but North Carolina, You know, I think Belichick,
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Speaker 1: I'm saying to myself, you know, guy's a Hall of
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Speaker 1: Fame coach.
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Speaker 3: He knows how to coach. He's going to get it
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Speaker 3: right eventually at North Carolina.
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Speaker 1: And I thought things were headed in the right direction
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Speaker 1: for Bill Belichick until they lost to Syracuse.
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Speaker 3: And you cannot, that's a bad Syracuse team.
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Speaker 1: You cannot lose to Syracuse the way they lost to
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Speaker 1: Syracuse and do it at home. You just can't.
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Speaker 5: My least favorite people today are the people, the North
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Speaker 5: Carolina fans that are complaining that North Carolina lost because
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Speaker 5: they didn't have the proper camera angles on the two
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Speaker 5: point play that showed maybe Syracuse didn't get in on
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Speaker 5: the two point conversion. And I'm with you. They might
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Speaker 5: not have gotten in. But the fact that Carolina blew
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Speaker 5: a double-digit lead in the fourth quarter to Syracuse, who
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Speaker 5: was on an 11-game conference losing streak, you can't let
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Speaker 5: it come down to a camera angle. And I think
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Speaker 5: the frustration with North Carolina is you have Bill Belichick.
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Speaker 5: You had Lombardi like Lombardi was the highest paid GM
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Speaker 5: in college football. Bill Belichick is a top 10 highest
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Speaker 5: paid college coach right now in college football. You have
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Speaker 5: teams like Kentucky and UCLA having their teams in playoff
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Speaker 5: contention when they hire Bob Chesney and Will Stein and
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Speaker 5: North Carolina. They are paying. for championship results. And they're
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Speaker 5: asking everybody for like rebuilding patients where I can admit
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Speaker 5: North Carolina is significantly better than they are last year.
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Speaker 5: That at this point last year, this North Carolina team
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Speaker 5: is a lot more competitive. Are we paying for just competitive?
51:46
Speaker 5: Because North Carolina is paying Bill Belichick like he's supposed
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Speaker 5: to be Marcus Freeman or Ryan Day.
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Speaker 3: Kentucky took a second to kind of build, right? Like
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Speaker 3: it did. It took a minute.
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Speaker 1: UCLA, it took a minute kind of to build for
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Speaker 1: Bob Chesney. But your larger point is right. North Carolina is,
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Speaker 1: at the very least, they're paying top dollar for both
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Speaker 1: to their GM and their coach, not to be in
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Speaker 1: that situation against a lousy, terrible Syracuse team and to
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Speaker 1: be in playoff contention. And in college football, we've seen it. God,
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Speaker 1: have we seen it? We've seen it at Indiana. We're
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Speaker 1: seeing it right now at Northwestern. The change needs to
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Speaker 1: happen quickly. It's not a rebuild of three to four years. Hey,
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Speaker 1: be patient with me. You're Bill bleeping Belichick. Fix it
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Speaker 1: and fix it right now, right?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Bob Chesney and Will Stein weren't at their schools
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Speaker 5: this time last season.
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Speaker 3: Right, there you go.
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Speaker 5: Stop my problem with north carolina right now is if
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Speaker 5: you had a young coach okay i i could get
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Speaker 5: behind the rebuilding process but right now i want people
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Speaker 5: to stop talking about this north carolina team like like
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Speaker 5: it's some long-term process that that we don't understand bill
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Speaker 5: belichick's one of the oldest coaches in college football right
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Speaker 5: and we are paying him like like north carolina should
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Speaker 5: be in the acc title pitcher and instead we're losing
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Speaker 5: to angelia and fran brown And they were up double
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Speaker 5: digits in the fourth quarter. Like, that's a game you
53:11
Speaker 5: should get that home across the finish line every time.
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Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 1: What do you mean they didn't have the right camera angles?
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Speaker 1: I'm confused by that.
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Speaker 3: Like, what?
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Speaker 5: So they were going to the ACC replay center.
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Speaker 3: I'm tired of replay centers, by the way.
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Speaker 1: I mean, a bunch of guys talking and no one
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Speaker 1: figuring anything out. I mean, it's not enough.
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Speaker 5: I don't need them going to the replay center. It
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Speaker 5: just makes me more angry because the guy in the
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Speaker 5: replay center is like, do we have any other angles
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Speaker 5: in this? And then they're flipping through the reviews and
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Speaker 5: it's like, no, I guess we don't have a better
53:41
Speaker 5: look at this down the line where it's like, first off,
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Speaker 5: how don't you have a better look?
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Speaker 3: It is 2026.
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Speaker 5: We have pylon cams. We have ref cams. We have
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Speaker 5: every cam under the sun.
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Speaker 1: Forget about the technology. You have billions of dollars pouring
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Speaker 1: into the sport.
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Stu, I'm so embarrassed how excited I was about
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Speaker 5: this North Carolina team. They were up double digits in
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Speaker 5: the fourth quarter.
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Speaker 8: Yes.
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Speaker 5: And I'm like, okay, North Carolina, we avoided the potential
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Speaker 5: trap game against Syracuse. We have Miami coming to town
54:09
Speaker 5: next week.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 5: It's a game on Halloween. Let me start looking at flights. Luckily,
54:14
Speaker 5: these airlines now have 24-hour cancellation policies. They do. Because
54:18
Speaker 5: I booked that flight, and the second that game ended,
54:21
Speaker 5: I said, I'm not going to Chapel Hill.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to cancel this flight.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: You did so within the window, right, to get a
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Speaker 1: full refund? Not a flight credit. No one wants flight credits.
54:29
Speaker 1: You want a full refund, you know?
54:31
Speaker 5: Stu, the window could have been an hour, and I
54:35
Speaker 5: was canceling that flight.
54:38
Speaker 1: But you agree with me. I hate the flight credits
54:41
Speaker 1: when I get them, you know? I always forget I
54:43
Speaker 1: have them.
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Speaker 3: It's cash.
54:44
Speaker 1: But I want my cash back, right? I have to
54:47
Speaker 1: do it inside of 24 hours. Do you get the
54:49
Speaker 1: travel insurance that's always recommended?
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Speaker 10: No.
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 10: No.
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Speaker 7: No.
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Speaker 1: Who gets that?
54:54
Speaker 5: I think that every time I see it where it's like–
54:57
Speaker 5: I don't know one time– I guess, knock on wood,
55:00
Speaker 5: I must be lucky that I haven't had to use it.
55:04
Speaker 5: There has not been one instance that I could think
55:06
Speaker 5: of in my lifetime, in my 32 years on this planet,
55:09
Speaker 5: where I would have ever had to use that airline
55:13
Speaker 5: insurance where it's like, check this box, $ 82. $ 82? $ 82.
55:17
Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 9: $ 82.
55:18
Speaker 5: Yes. But it's spending that somewhere else, but it's highly recommended.
55:22
Speaker 1: Yeah.
55:23
Speaker 5: And they got the, like the reviews on it. Like, Oh,
55:25
Speaker 5: this customer says it's very helpful. I'm not clicking on that.
55:28
Speaker 8: Right.
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Speaker 3: Because you're jumping on your flight and they're taking your
55:30
Speaker 3: extra $ 82.
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Speaker 6: Right.
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Speaker 4: Yes.
55:33
Speaker 5: When it comes to airlines, I am as basic as
55:35
Speaker 5: it comes. I'm not selecting my seat. I'm not checking
55:38
Speaker 5: a bag. Whatever the flight price is, that is what
55:43
Speaker 5: I am spending and not a dollar more.
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Speaker 3: You mean whatever the basic package is?
55:47
Speaker 4: Yes.
55:47
Speaker 5: Don't ask me to upgrade. Don't ask me to flex
55:50
Speaker 5: to the premium option.
55:53
Speaker 4: What was that called?
55:55
Speaker 3: You're making me laugh so hard that all the phlegm from.
55:58
Speaker 1: The weekend just came up.
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Speaker 5: That jolted me.
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Speaker 4: It jolted me.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know I had that in me, although I
56:06
Speaker 1: should know that I had that in me.
56:07
Speaker 3: I put it in me.
56:08
Speaker 4: On a daily basis.
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Speaker 3: I'm disgusting. Have a great night, everyone.