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Best Of 2025: ADHD Diagnosis, Dress-ups, New Parents, Peculiar Meditations · Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Two Notting Dads. My name is Mattie J.
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  Speaker 1: Wow is that too much back? Come back? Okay, let
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  Speaker 1: me try that one my time.
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  Speaker 2: My name is Mattie J. Hi, Matt is that more
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  Speaker 2: than somewhere in between? Next episode I'll do a better job.
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  Speaker 2: And this is the podcast all about parenting. It is
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  Speaker 2: the good, it is the.
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  Speaker 1: Bad and the relatable. And I'm also ash. I'm so sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so thinking.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry forgive me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm on holidays.
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  Speaker 3: Dude.
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  Speaker 1: That's okay, you're out, You're out of the swing.
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  Speaker 3: I get it, Yeah, get it. But do you know
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  Speaker 3: what's right in the swing? What's best of episodes? It's
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  Speaker 3: a cracker absolutely c say the best to last, I
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  Speaker 3: would say we talk about my diagnosed severe ADHD, which
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  Speaker 3: was no surprise to anybody.
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  Speaker 1: Severe in bold.
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  Speaker 2: We also talk about ADHD. By the way, that's it going.
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  Speaker 1: It's flaring.
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  Speaker 3: Matt and his sister do a little dress up a
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  Speaker 3: flashback from the past.
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  Speaker 2: We've got that photo. It's up on the fridge. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if you saw it when you went to get.
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  Speaker 1: A glass on the water. I've got a copy of it. Worry,
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  Speaker 1: it's sexy.
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  Speaker 2: A list of question is a mum of a one
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  Speaker 2: year old fighting with her partner. PSA to dads out there,
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  Speaker 2: just remember, guys, just remember life is not difficult. All
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  Speaker 2: you have to do is.
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  Speaker 1: Clean the freaking house.
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  Speaker 3: That a chure player gets everyone across the line, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 3: We also talk about if you do. Recall Matt was
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  Speaker 3: in the jungle, so we had a guest on which
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  Speaker 3: happened to be my wife, and I reveal April's sleep routine.
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  Speaker 3: Are you talking about your sex life again?
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  Speaker 1: All right?
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  Speaker 3: We can talk about that in private, but for this
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  Speaker 3: episode we're talking about meditation and specifically sex.
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  Speaker 1: The nonsense that is chakra.
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  Speaker 2: Is there sex in this episode? Is it because I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't here, I didn't listen to there's no sex in
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  Speaker 2: this jests giving me the sign for sex? It is
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  Speaker 2: sexy time we talk about the chakras like kma citra. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 2: all right, let's just get into it.
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  Speaker 1: I wan to listen to it. Okay. I can't wait
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  Speaker 1: to find out about you in April.
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  Speaker 4: Nice, you're fine, Well I'm not, actually, and I have
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  Speaker 4: a story about that.
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  Speaker 1: Not fine.
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  Speaker 3: Hemorrhoids hemorrhoids about the hemorrhoids were vicious while you were gone,
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  Speaker 3: and that was from stress. It was stressed about you.
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  Speaker 3: I was worried about you, not about me or my
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  Speaker 3: terrible lifestyle. My horrible habits had nothing to do with that.
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  Speaker 3: It's all stress. But we have some answers Matthew to
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  Speaker 3: why I am like the way that I am.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's formal. So we always joke.
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  Speaker 3: We joke a lot on these podcasts about the poster
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  Speaker 3: boy for a particular.
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  Speaker 2: It's a disorder.
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  Speaker 1: Disorder, yeah it is. There's got enough d's in there
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  Speaker 1: that out of disorder. It's a disorder.
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  Speaker 3: I have formerly been diagnosed by a psych hiatress as.
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  Speaker 1: A severe.
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  Speaker 3: Let me finish a severe case of adult ADHD.
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  Speaker 1: We class. Look, I didn't know what to do. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I can't say I'm surprised. I'm not surprising.
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  Speaker 1: We all knew. Now that I know, it's it's way worse.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like I found myself yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: It's better the disorder.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know. Yeah, I found myself yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: We're at the PM's house for that thing you're doing,
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  Speaker 3: and I was like staring off into the like into
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  Speaker 3: no man's landlight.
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  Speaker 1: And then I'll be like, oh fuck, oh shit. If
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  Speaker 1: someone's like talking, was like, ash, just this echo. It's
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  Speaker 1: quite a long process.
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  Speaker 3: I thought Matt'scar of the Jungle and pulled my finger
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  Speaker 3: out and do something for myself off here, and.
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  Speaker 2: Can I ask, Can I ask what made you want
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  Speaker 2: to get tested?
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  Speaker 3: Because you've you're now in your about one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: seventeen episodes of this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I listened back to all them. I was like, fuck,
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  Speaker 1: that guy.
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  Speaker 2: Needs to help, because you kind of think you've come
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  Speaker 2: this far. You're in your mid thirties, you come this far.
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  Speaker 2: You know surely, surely you know you're fine.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's getting worse. It's getting progressively worse. Really in
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  Speaker 3: what way? Look, I know, I know that I've always
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  Speaker 3: had problems focusing. I know that I always I'm real
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  Speaker 3: scattery and real up and down, I move everything.
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  Speaker 1: Are you don't I'm happy? Shut up? And honestly it
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  Speaker 1: was I knew it was getting worse.
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  Speaker 3: And then I started to pay attention to some things
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  Speaker 3: that Oscar would do and how and you know, he's five.
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  Speaker 1: He's he's you know not. He just reminded me so
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  Speaker 1: much of what of what I what like my.
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  Speaker 3: Brain and like what the mannerisms and things like he
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  Speaker 3: cannot focus on anything.
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  Speaker 1: What was Oscar doing that?
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  Speaker 3: He can't focus on me, but he can hyper focus
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  Speaker 3: on a small on a one small task, and like
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  Speaker 3: for me, I used to be able to hyper focus
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  Speaker 3: on things and then.
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  Speaker 1: Can I just refresh your memory? And you know this?
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  Speaker 2: But for the listeners, Ash, I don't know what it was.
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  Speaker 2: But he was like, I'm really into Pokemon cards. And
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  Speaker 2: I was like, what do you mean? And you would
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  Speaker 2: watch you would watch people live stream opening Pokemon cards,
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  Speaker 2: and then you started collecting Pokemon cards and now I'm
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  Speaker 2: in severe deet yeap just you were like locked into
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  Speaker 2: Pokemon cards.
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  Speaker 3: Locked in still, bro, I am locked in. Actually I
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  Speaker 3: guess I can harp a focus on that. But like
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  Speaker 3: I would find that, I was like, okay, well I can't.
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  Speaker 1: I can't. I'm starting to become.
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  Speaker 3: As focused as Oscar it is, and I'm an adult
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  Speaker 3: who like should be able to focus on. I can't
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  Speaker 3: read an email. I can read like a head of
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  Speaker 3: an email. I could learn a new skill like Rubik's Cube.
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  Speaker 3: Took me one day to learn the Rubi's Cube.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: But I can't. I can't perform a new habit. I
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  Speaker 3: can't build a new habit, like just shit like that.
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  Speaker 3: And it's progressively getting worse to the point where like
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  Speaker 3: I'm unmotivated to do anything, like I'm unmotivated to get
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  Speaker 3: out of bed, all this sort of stuff. That it
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  Speaker 3: was like, all right, probably need to do something about it.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember and tell me if this is the
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  Speaker 2: case or not. Do you remember? It must have been
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  Speaker 2: like six months ago we had a conversation about potentially
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  Speaker 2: getting diagnosed, and you said something along the lines of
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  Speaker 2: you don't want to get medicated because it's going to
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  Speaker 2: change who you are.
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  Speaker 3: That's a common concern they say it because it's like
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  Speaker 3: we talk about ADHD as you know, like a disorder,
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  Speaker 3: like it's really bad, but it's also a superpowerful A
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  Speaker 3: lot of people, like the psychiatrist said to me, he said,
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  Speaker 3: you've gotten as far as you have done now.
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  Speaker 1: With what's going on in your head.
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  Speaker 3: But you're obviously at a point in your life where
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  Speaker 3: you need you need I need to be able to
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  Speaker 3: create a routine, have some sort of structure. I need
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  Speaker 3: to be able to sleep properly like this, so like
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  Speaker 3: it takes me like four hours to go to sleep.
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  Speaker 1: I'll just lay there, bro and my head.
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  Speaker 3: Will just just run the whole time, the biggest one.
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  Speaker 3: And you'll notice it when and you probably already notice
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  Speaker 3: it when that I noticed when I come on the
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  Speaker 3: phone to someone and I'm invested in our conversation and
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  Speaker 3: something so minute will get my attention and I'll pull
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  Speaker 3: on that piece of string and the complete conversation changes
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  Speaker 3: to me just I'm not there anymore. And I've gotten
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  Speaker 3: to the point where I'm doing that to family and
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  Speaker 3: stuff like that, and I'll get off the phone and
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  Speaker 3: I'll go, fuck, I just did that again. I'll have
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  Speaker 3: to really Like. I rang my sister back up yesterday
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm so sorry you would having
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  Speaker 3: an actual important conversation with me, and I didn't digest it.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't digest the.
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  Speaker 3: Back end of I don't even know what happened because
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  Speaker 3: something had caught my eye and I cannot refocus on
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  Speaker 3: that conversation.
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  Speaker 2: And it's tough because obviously, your sister's going to be
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  Speaker 2: very sympathetic because she understands you and you and who
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  Speaker 2: you are. But I guess other people might be like
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  Speaker 2: fuck ash, like that's rude.
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  Speaker 3: Men.
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  Speaker 1: So many people and I feel really bad.
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  Speaker 3: So if you are on the phone to me and
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  Speaker 3: I do tune out, it's a disorder now, okay, but
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  Speaker 3: yeah it's Yeah, it just was getting to the point
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  Speaker 3: where I have that's just put yourself in my shoes
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  Speaker 3: for a moment. No motivation, no routine, no structure, no goals,
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  Speaker 3: no interests.
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  Speaker 1: Like I was just like a blob.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much, And it's like, I can't. It really
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  Speaker 3: really hit me when I surfed the wavepool before you
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  Speaker 3: it was before you left or during you left, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. I did hurt my back on the same session,
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  Speaker 3: but I literally paddled out and I was like, I
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  Speaker 3: fucking hate this, And it.
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  Speaker 1: Was like why though, why is that?
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  Speaker 3: Like why is your brain now associating this with something
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  Speaker 3: that you hate? Like? Yeah, is it because maybe that
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  Speaker 3: I put too much pressure on myself to be the
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  Speaker 3: best that I can be, but I don't have the
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  Speaker 3: patience to work to be.
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  Speaker 1: The best yea I could be?
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  Speaker 2: So what was the process? Because I remember you saying
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  Speaker 2: it was hard. I know you were kind of like
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  Speaker 2: tiptoeing around getting tested. But it's not just a simple
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  Speaker 2: make an appointment, Oh yeah, you like, do this test
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  Speaker 2: do you have it?
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  Speaker 1: What does it look like? Step by step?
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  Speaker 3: So this is the second time I've been down because
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  Speaker 3: we spoke about it last year, but it was the
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  Speaker 3: referral I got then was to a particular clinic that
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  Speaker 3: feel like they were quite big, so you sort of
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  Speaker 3: get you sort of go into the conveyor belt of process,
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  Speaker 3: if you will. And I felt like the information was
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  Speaker 3: like the step was like it felt like the test,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It was like, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: going to get through all this shit. I can't focus
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  Speaker 3: on one thing. How do you want me to focus
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  Speaker 3: on fifteen different things before I can see a psychiatrists
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  Speaker 3: who to say, okay, what's going on? Yeah, which probably
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  Speaker 3: deters a lot of people. I got really lucky as
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: a Kish. Keisha's such an advocate for it.
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  Speaker 1: For people who do know. It's Keisha from Life Uncut.
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  Speaker 3: She created Cloud, which is on the Life on Cut network,
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  Speaker 3: which is a podcast all about ADHC, and she was
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  Speaker 3: able to point me in the right direction how she
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  Speaker 3: went through it where it wasn't as painful.
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  Speaker 1: Which look, the steps are.
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  Speaker 3: Essentially the same, but there was more guidance instead of
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  Speaker 3: just being like, here go, this is what you need
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  Speaker 3: to do because you're one of them million people in
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  Speaker 3: this in the in the start of this clinic here
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  Speaker 3: where you need to go do this, do that?
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  Speaker 1: Do this? Do that? What do they make you do?
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  Speaker 3: So stuff like there's a lot of like cognitive testing,
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  Speaker 3: like when you go for a new job in a
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: corporate situation, again you go.
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  Speaker 1: Through online question nail, Yeah, but it's long.
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  Speaker 3: Again you feel like this is the ADHD test, but
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  Speaker 3: it's just to find out what sort of person you are,
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: like what what makes you tick?
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: What doesn't make you tick? Are you depressed? Are you sad?
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  Speaker 3: So?
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  Speaker 2: Do you do that? You do that test, and then
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  Speaker 2: what happens after that?
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: You've got to.
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: They say that you need to provide some like character references.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: Why I wasn't I called up?
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  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: Why do you think that?
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  Speaker 3: It was just like, thankfully you don't necessarily have to.
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  Speaker 3: I think there is you do enough cognitive testing about
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: your character.
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  Speaker 1: And then they're also asked for like.
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  Speaker 3: Peniss I don't know, I haven't seen it in ages
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  Speaker 3: and it's like like old school reports and stuff like that,
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: because there's no way you would have had that. No, no,
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  Speaker 3: definitely not no, no no. And thankfully, through this channel. I
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: didn't have to do any of that.
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  Speaker 2: So, like your reports would have said, easily distracted bam.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, losers focus bam, cannot focus on task bam.
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  Speaker 1: My advice to.
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  Speaker 3: Anyone who's who wants to go down the track and
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: looks at it and goes, fuck, it looks like a
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: long thing. Just do your due diligence on where you
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: do it. Because this was really quick opposed to it
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  Speaker 3: being really really long. So this was like a couple
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: of week wait to see a psychiatrist off the back
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  Speaker 3: of your testing. It was telehealth. We spent an hour together.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, so just so I know, so you've done your
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: online online tests, I'll go from a.
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: Stuff GP to with your concerns, as you should do
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  Speaker 3: with everything.
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  Speaker 1: Really, go and see your GP.
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  Speaker 3: Just tell them what's going on and what makes you think,
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  Speaker 3: and they'll ask you some general questions there too, because
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  Speaker 3: they're trained to do so as well. But then they'll go, okay,
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: do you have a clinic in mind, which thankfully from
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  Speaker 3: Keisha I did, and then you essentially the refel goes
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: to them, They reach out to you. They essentially give
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  Speaker 3: you all the information about what comes next.
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  Speaker 2: I'm really dumb here. But is the clinic like an
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  Speaker 2: ADHD clinic.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's like an ADHD clinic and like like
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: brain neurodivergent.
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  Speaker 1: They specialize and all that sort of stuff, and then
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  Speaker 1: you do the online. Yeah, they sort of give what's
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  Speaker 1: going to happen next. And the cost.
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: That's another thing too. It's because how much it costs.
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: Oh look, it's like it's upwards as three grands do.
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  Speaker 3: It's not shp, it's not cheap. Wow, it's for me,
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  Speaker 3: I was at a point where I felt like I
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: needed to invest it so that I don't essentially become
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: you know, depressed really because it's where it was headed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was headed to like impacting you that much.
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  Speaker 1: It was impacting you to the point.
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  Speaker 3: Where there was thoughts of suicide, like just completely honest,
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  Speaker 3: like very minor. But I've felt that before, but I thought,
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: this is getting worse.
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  Speaker 1: This is the trigger for that.
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  Speaker 3: It was sort of like for me, that was my
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  Speaker 3: how I felt because I had no motivation, no no structure.
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  Speaker 1: No sorry man, no no, no, no, don't don't don't
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  Speaker 1: at all.
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  Speaker 3: Like I've I've sort of suffered with this sort of
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  Speaker 3: stuff for long and half that I'm like, okay, well,
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: but what was getting me down was that I couldn't.
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  Speaker 3: I would do the thing. You know, here's an example,
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: Like you would go, okay, I want to do this, right,
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  Speaker 3: So what you do is you put the.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: Steps in place to get to there.
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  Speaker 3: I would go, I want to do this, get to
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  Speaker 3: the first step in my brain and go this is
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: all too hard, and that's it, you know, like, here's
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: a good one. I started doing laps at the pool.
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: So what I bought like one hundred dollars pair of goggles.
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  Speaker 3: They're still in the packet and that was two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Like, so after after you do your you went to
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: the clinic, did you testing there? And is that off
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: the back of that do they say like you have it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: So you do the testing and then you have your
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: consultation with with a psychiatrist, and there's a lot. They
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: dive into a lot like childhood, family life, both your
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: immediate family and then obviously my wife and kids, and
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: you know, school and hobbies and habits like alcohol, drug
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: or they do into everything a family loss. Look, if
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  Speaker 3: you're not at a position where you want to talk
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: about all that stuff, then maybe it's not worth going
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: down there front.
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  Speaker 1: It's really confronted. It's like exhausting. At the end of it,
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  Speaker 1: you're like fuck like.
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  Speaker 3: Like it's like a it's a proper therapy session, which
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: thankfully I've got some experience in so I wasn't, but
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  Speaker 3: I can imagine if that's your first.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you'd be like holy shit.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Like I had to take it in the car because
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: it's just like I needed zero distractions and just needed
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: to I was like, if I'm going to spend all
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: this money and do it to improve my life, I
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: need to just lock myself away and get it done.
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  Speaker 1: And then based off that in the conversation, he.
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  Speaker 3: Said, look, in my professional opinion, you do have adult
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  Speaker 3: ADHD along with it.
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  Speaker 1: There's a couple other things that's in.
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  Speaker 3: The They give you a diagnosis, which is the diagnosis
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: goes back to my GP for next steps, which is
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: next steps is blood work ECG, and for me, blood
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  Speaker 3: work and ECG.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Is really important because I've got heart disease.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Out for medication, for medication, Yeah, because he openly says, hey,
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: we can treat this with medication. Whatever that's going to
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: look like, I don't know yet, or we can you
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: can look at you unpacking.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: It's like a fast way or slow like that's the
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: way they put it.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: And I was like, look, I'm open to being medicated,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: but that's what I was worried about losing my spark, right,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: I was losing like I didn't want to lose my
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: personality and will lose how my brain works in certain ways.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: And he was like, no, no, no, I will.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but at the same time you talk about your spark,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: it's like, I don't I look, think about that moment
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: where you say you're thinking about self harm and you're like, well,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: that's not it's not helping you.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: It's it's not a spark that you think it is. Yeah.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's always like the negative side to my brain,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: the personality I have. But he said to me, no, no, no,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: He's like, look, what we can do is we can
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: look to just make it easier for you to focus
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: on tasks and achieve smaller goals than just being like,
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: here's something kind of completely dull who you are as
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: a person for the rest of your life. And that's
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: a big stigma around medication. When I'm medicated already now
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: and I have been for years, but it was like
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: before that, I was like I didn't want to be
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: medicated because I didn't want to be seen as that
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: person who's medicated.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Right, it's like he's had like a lobotomy.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, essentially, and like, but then once I went down
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: the process the first time with you know, with that,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: it's like, it's not that bad?
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Do they when you say severe? Is there like a scale?
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Is it like between?
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: I guess it's just his medical opinion, right, And he's like, Okay,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: well I've heard you. I've heard what you're like, what
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: your brain's like, and they're very good at like drawing
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: stuff out of you that they are trained to do
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: right if they could.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: But it's kind of I guess on the one hand,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: it's kind of daunting to know, like, Okay, I've actually
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: got this thing now, But then at the same time,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: it must be nice in a sense to know, like, hey,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: it's you know, I've been living with this thing which
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: has been hindering me for so long. It's not you,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: it's it's like, you know, it makes sense.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like now that I'm aware of it, and
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: there's certain things that certain behaviors that I do like
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: like Mike, my doom scrolling is on a fucking another level.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: It's because it's ADHD paralysis. I'm just there searching for
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: mean searching, and that's the easiest way for me to
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: get it without you know, racking up or you know
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: what I mean. Like in that, I'm just like consistently searching.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: And it's like it's a known thing that you go
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: into a paralysis where you're like, I'm just going to
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: sit here all day.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: In a vortex, and I have done that.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: You know what the first day both kids went back
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: to school, I think you were away and I think
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: we had nothing on or whatever. I literally sat there
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: till the kids got home. He got nothing achieved that day,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: and it was like, I don't have the motivation, nor
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: do I have this drive the strength to move off
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: his couch and other than just sit there and doom scroll.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe joke off. Yeah. So that's where we're at.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you haven't had any medication.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Gott to do blood test ECGs.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Then you go and do another psych appointment to talk
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: about medications, the pros, the con all that sort of stuff.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Like another hour and then they see you again. Just
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: make any adjustments and then it's up to you how
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: often you want to see them, like check in. So
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: like I think Keish was saying that she did the
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: first initial appointments and they adjusted the medication and everything
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: seems to be working fine. But if her if her
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: brain chemistry changes or something changes, like maybe she falls
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: pregnant and hormones changed the things, that maybe she might
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: need to go it again.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but she's gone through the harder process.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Well, dude, I'm I'm proud of you, Thank you, very
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: proud of you.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: That's the most serious conversation I've had in a very
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: long time.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it would have been so easy to
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: kick this bucket down the road a little bit longer,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: a little bit longer, knowing how hard the process is.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I think, well done, thank you, well done.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I feel better about it already. I mean, it's like
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: you said, there's no surprises like it was. You know, I.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Can have a large red Bull and ghostrados leap like
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: you know, you know, it's just yeah, it just got
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: to the point where it was like and then I
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: was doing I was doing this thing where I was like.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Wish I'd known this before I started a podcast with
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: you sorry something in two years. I'm kidding, I kidding, But.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: It was getting to the point where I was like,
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm not yeah, like I definitely have a
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: problem with alcohol, Like well, that's no fucking secret. But
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: it was getting to the point where it was like
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: I was just drinking because I was just depressed about it.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: And it was like, if I'm going to be unmotivated
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: to do things, I might as well do the things
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: that's like, the the easy things that give me some
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: sort of chemical in my brain to make me feel
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: a bit better.
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: Anyway, here we are, I'm not having any sisters. Like
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: yearned for a sister most of my childhood. I desperately
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: wanted a sister, and so that's the only way to
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: get one is to dress up my pen Yes, into
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: my sisters.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I'm very excited about.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: And because I punched her in the nose. Oh yeah,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: I have a willing participate because I felt bad. Yes,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: why did you dress me up?
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I don't really know.
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: I feel like you came to me.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: It's where I'm bored. Let's what plans could I wear?
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: Let's so he was like the he was always the
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: funny one, so he would have wanted attention.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I don't remember how Yeah used to you had a wig?
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Put me in the wik should we you got here? Yeah,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: brought it.
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure we would also like to like hoop
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: dance and like.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: You have you got any pop dance videos?
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: No, that was before.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: That was like before my grandma have one somewhere like
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: photo that.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, let's not. We don't have to bring it out.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, what you've got breast?
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: Also, he's loving it.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: You can just.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I was forced into that against my will.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Look at the pose, the he look, Oh my goodness,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: the sparkly hair. I look good. Oh my god, what doing?
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: And so for like one evening I get a sister.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah you did. I was called Ntricia. Is that sick?
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Is it readularly? Probably? Probably any foundation?
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: Any roofe Muma's makeup?
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Wow? Very good? Have you got a sports prober on
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: under that?
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: The only thing I would say is like, he wasn't
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: the only brother I dressed most dressed? Yeah, I did
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: dressed most.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: You wanted to be like the Spice girls.
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: David did ask most of the time to be dressed up.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Wow, he did aspect you look great? You do look good.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, you look like.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: You look like someone who always tries to get out
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: of pe just like a lit the beer boxes in
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: the back, cheepers, good boobs, good graces at the camps.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Can I keep this? God knows what you'll do with it.
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: Matt stress up as a woman plenty of times in
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: recent times.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: It's been a while.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I'm true.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: For one, I reckon, you need to recreate this. That's
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: a great, great week. Thank you so much. Listen to questions,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Listen to questions. Do you want to start this? Start
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: you start? Okay?
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: This one's from anonymous strange names this week. Mum of
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: a one year old Here, huge fight with my partner
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: last night. He says we spend no time together, our
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: relationship is non existent, and we no longer have fun.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: He's not wrong in some ways, we've both been focusing
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: on getting back to ourselves after becoming parents, or or
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: so I thought. Do you have any rituals for spending
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: time with your rituals sex?
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I'm a child. I am just a child first and foremost.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: To go on.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I think it is very natural as parents with any
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: number of children, that you have periods where you feel
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: a bit disconnected. From your partner like.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: A roommate, like a roommate face.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Do you know how old the kids are?
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: No, that's one year old? Did you say one year old? Yes?
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Fuck like dude, can you remember how hard it was
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: with a one year old?
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I forgot? I had to do
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: disinfect like the teats of bottles? Do you remember that shit?
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't know? God? Oh not by hand. Did you
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: put in one of those things and checked in the microwave?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: You're putting plastic in the microwave?
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: No, they go in like a special. They go in
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: a special. Parents will back me up. I swear to god,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: google it. It's like a It's like a container. You
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: put a little bit of water and it's steroloite. You
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: chuck it in the microwave, heats up and it's sterilized.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: It like boiling water.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Microplastics.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Does that mean anything to you?
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Obviously not, bro. My My kids are just full of microplastics.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: They're going to get their blood filled one day. Sorry,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't attack it. I mean attacking you this day.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate it. I keeps me on my toes.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I've acknowledged it, so first and foremost continue one.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Year old, it's like that is that you're in the
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: eye of the storm. That is a tricky position to
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: be in.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: I think it's their coming out of the trickiest position,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because that's what you're saying.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like that that age. Yes, don't get me wrong,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: still tricky, and for some it's trickier.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: That whole leading up to one. No wonder, you're not
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: fucking hanging out with each other. You probably hate each
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: other everyone on the surface.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, dude, everyone with a one year old. Every couple
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: hates each other at that period of life.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: And if they don't, they're fucking lying. No one is thriving.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: You may thrive for the blink of an eye, but
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: then the majority of the time you just try to
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: stay alive. Yeah, you just get your head above water.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: That's the reality.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: I think anyone who was like, oh wow, I don't
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: really have, like my relationship is not cranking with one
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: year old, I'm like, it should that shouldn't.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: It shouldn't be cranking. If it's cranking, that kid's been neglected.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: It's hungry, all right, keep controld alive.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: I think also, and we say we're not going to
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: give it any advice.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: But we're both married, we both have two kids.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: I think we're both in a position we could give
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: a little bit of advice that has worked potentially for us.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I'm ready for it.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Give yourselves a fucking break, yeah, like a sorry, continue
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: shut you. Don't go so hard on yourselves and don't
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: put too much pressure.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: There's so much time for you to get that back.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Is that? Am I wrong? Yes?
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Go on, okay, put more pressure in yourself.
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: Is that what you say?
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Get ready?
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, give the mom a break? Okay, yes, okay? Because
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I I was shit with a one year old. I
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: was still in that mindset of like, oh, mum's got it,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: you know, because newborn's up until three four months. Mum
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: and newborn they are attached at the hip slash boob
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: and one year there we one year old is when
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: dads like that can really start taking on a lot
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: more true And so I think I think it's hard
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: to think about being sexy and romantic and wanting to
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: have all that type of business going on when you
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: know the house is a mess and you're trying to
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: deal with a little child. So my best advice is
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: any dad's out there who think, oh, my relationship is
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: not being prioritized. Just like, clean that house, dude, take
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: a day off work, call and sink to work and
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: just like clean the house through the washing, mop the vacuum,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: mop the floor.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: A little bit of your player is going to go
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: a long way. I refer to the twenty and twenty
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: three calendar that we did.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Go plug.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Very much out of date. That's my advice. I think
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: that's that's pretty solid.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: But I would just attack on the top of that
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: that if you are mum, don't try and force that
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: advice onto them because it could you know what I mean,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Like if you're like, why don't you clean the house anymore?
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: It might make it worse. You fucking talent to clean
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: the house? Are you going with your going with full telling?
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: I think by what I like what you said was
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: then if your dad right, just just go and do it.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, I like that. Be proactive, be proactive.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: There he is.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: That's to hear because it's it's like for me personally,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: if I would prefer to be proactive and do those
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: sort of things, then to be told go and do it,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: No one enjoys a gift they asked for, not that
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: doing exactly.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: You go, You're just full of good words right now,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to stop it. You got was the
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: apple juice. It's out of date. Okay, question for you again.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Don't put too much pressure on the relationship right yes,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: because no one is no I know, we joke, we laugh.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Everyone fucking hates each other at that stage.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Life with a two year old is a lot better
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: than life.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: For the one year old. Yeah, for sure. They're given
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: back way more.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Give me a toddler any day of the week.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: It's funny, like with white noise, we were a white.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Noise house and something. Matt's never had white noise in
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: their house or anything else ever.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: No, And it's like what, like why, I said to
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: him why and he was like, we just never it's
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: the best, like delighting the storms.
• 30:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah, they haven't noticed it well in saying that we've
• 30:48
  Speaker 9: had the fan on and that's probably naisier than the
• 30:50
  Speaker 9: white noise.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: But I find that, like I'm so accustomed and used
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: to it now, it's just like it's part of our house.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I feel like when we lose it, I'll be sad.
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah, when they don't, when they say they don't want
• 31:02
  Speaker 9: it anymore.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Like, well, hang on, we've listened to the same song,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: same noise, yeah, every night for five and a half
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: years so far.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: It'll be the end of an era. Very good.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: I think that's a hack. Anything that gets a kid
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: to sleep, I'm sweet with.
• 31:18
  Speaker 9: It's almost as good as our two meditations competing against
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: each other.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: They each Yeah, so.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Everyone along with the white noises in our house, April
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: and I both have sleep music. I think we just
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: adopted it from having the white noise on because we
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: had we lived in units for so long with Oscar,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: mainly that the.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Whole house just was like you.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Walk into a house like all the time, it's just
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: it's like an AM radio station. And then we were like, oh,
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: you know, do some sleep music. I think for a
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: while there we had one where we just shared it.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: And then you've gone more into the meditation chakras. Oh god,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: it's and mine's more just like piano sleep music.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: But the thing is, your meditation lasts for an hour.
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: It's three hours.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: What for the talking only last for an hour?
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Talking for an hour, but you're out.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Cold in like two You're like, it's sleeping next to
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: a dead.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Body, and you are out, and so I've got to
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: spend the next hour listening to this woman carry on
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: about different energy chakras. But also I find with those
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: those people. Also I find with people who are really
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: into that and the chakras like me, they really in
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: depthly describe where your chakra is, Like, no one's going
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: to if they don't, no one's going to believe them.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: So here's an example. They're like, So, she's like, and
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: your third chakra is in your stup just below the
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: breast bone, in between both victorial muscles, slightly underneath the
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: cartilage of the humanness to listen to my meditation, that's like,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: what don't you just say it's in your chest?
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Do you think this one's gonna be? Like, okay, if
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: it's in your chest, where is it?
• 33:13
  Speaker 9: I'm just going to disagree with you because I quite
• 33:16
  Speaker 9: like it.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: It's like they're like, okay, And also how many chakras
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  Speaker 3: does one person have? I listened to it so many
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  Speaker 3: times that they're like, and I don't go to sleep
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  Speaker 3: that easy.
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  Speaker 1: It takes me forever. And I'm listening.
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  Speaker 7: You're welcome you as well.
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  Speaker 3: And at the top of your head is your twelfth chakra.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Like she's just rattling off the human anatomy.
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: Essentially, it's great, it's all mindfulness.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: What you're fastest seeing your story is snoring.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: And I'm listening to someone and being.
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: Like and your sixth chakra is at the base of
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: your buttole and it slightly edges up towards the shaft
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: of your penis.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, fuck, kring hell, how many chakra energy?
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  Speaker 3: And they're all energy chakras and then they finish with
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: and if you look up, there is your final chakra.
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  Speaker 8: Hovering above you like a guiding light.
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  Speaker 7: Definitely doesn't say that it does.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: It doesn't say it must be specific to mothers. Oh really,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: yeah that far? You literally have never gotten that far.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: It gets to a point where it's like street noise,
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: traffic noise, nothing will wake you except for the sound
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: of your newborn child.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like, shut up, anyway, your newborn child has fifty
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: five chakras. Let's begin, let's begin, or it's like now
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: started your head and work your way down. It's just
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: how you're saying it. Maybe I should, maybe you should
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: be the chakra talker. Maybe this doesn't work out.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: If this doesn't work out, then we know where we're Sandon.
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• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Are still on holidays back, but that week back that's good.
• 35:41
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  Speaker 1: get off this fucking boat.
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