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John 7:32-36 Why Some People Seek Jesus — But Never Find Him · The TakeAway

• 0:10
  SPEAKER_00: In John chapter 7, the tension surrounding Jesus continues to escalate.
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  SPEAKER_00: Authority has been questioned, motives have been exposed, origins have been clarified, and now the focus shifts to the destination.
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  SPEAKER_00: As religious leaders move to arrest him, Jesus responds with a statement that unsettles both the crowd then and readers now.
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  SPEAKER_00: You will seek me and you will not find me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Where I am, you cannot come.
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  SPEAKER_00: In this episode of The Takeaway, Pastor Harry Barens walks through John chapter 7, verses 32 through 36, exploring the difference between seeking Jesus for the flesh and seeking him for the Father's glory, and why not all seeking results in finding?
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_00: Here's Pastor Harry with today's message.
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  SPEAKER_01: When confrontation arises, what rises up in your heart?
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  SPEAKER_01: Is it the desire to retreat, to seek shelter, or is it the desire to justify yourself, to defend, fight, or prove you're right?
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  SPEAKER_01: We often are told there are two natural responses to conflict, fight or flight.
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  SPEAKER_01: Most people lean toward flight, avoiding confrontation, and oftentimes we freeze or retreat because we refuse to engage.
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  SPEAKER_01: And when we do fight, what does that look like?
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  SPEAKER_01: It often looks like self-defense, protecting our image or justifying ourselves, whether we are right or wrong.
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  SPEAKER_01: But throughout John's gospel, and especially here in chapter 7, Jesus uses confrontation to expose.
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  SPEAKER_01: He doesn't defend himself as would be expected.
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  SPEAKER_01: He reveals what is underneath the surface.
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  SPEAKER_01: He exposes unbelief, false confidence, and misplaced authority.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that exposure is uncomfortable because the flesh does not receive confrontation as kindness.
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  SPEAKER_01: It resists it because it was stubborn by nature.
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  SPEAKER_01: We have lived in darkness, pursuing the passions and desires of the flesh.
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  SPEAKER_01: So when truth confronts us, it feels invasive.
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  SPEAKER_01: But Jesus confronts because he reveals the Father.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is the pattern we've been tracing through chapter 7.
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  SPEAKER_01: We saw his authority challenged when they said, Where does his authority come from?
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  SPEAKER_01: But he refused to defend himself and instead revealed that their problem is not his authority, but their unbelief.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then we saw how righteous living exposes evil motives and how their misuse of the law was uncovered.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then we saw how righteous living exposes evil motives and how their misuse of the law was uncovered.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then what formation looked like in the life of David and Joseph.
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  SPEAKER_01: Individuals anointed long before their environment reflected their identity.
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  SPEAKER_01: We saw that their formation happened in the gap between calling and fulfillment.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, in summary, we saw that authority was given, unbelief was exposed, formation took place in tension, and now destination will reveal who belongs by a statement Jesus makes that is easy to pass over, but impossible to soften, when he says, You will seek me and you will not find me.
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  SPEAKER_01: Where I am, you cannot come.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that forces a question.
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  SPEAKER_01: Why are you seeking Jesus?
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  SPEAKER_01: Are you seeking him to meet a need in the flesh, to fill a gap in your life, or to stabilize your world?
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  SPEAKER_01: Or are you seeking him to know him and to glorify the Father?
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, we live in a culture where Jesus is often presented as a helper, someone who fills in what we lack.
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  SPEAKER_01: But we allow scripture, but if we allow scripture to speak without rushing past it, we'll see that Jesus confronts that assumption, that there is a way of seeking him that does not find him, and there is a destination that cannot be reached by flesh-driven desire.
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  SPEAKER_01: So before we move forward, let this question confront you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Why am I seeking Jesus?
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  SPEAKER_01: The way we answer that question determines how we will hear what happens next.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because John does not relieve the tension here, he escalates it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And as questions swirl in the crowd and belief begins to stir, authority feels threatened.
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  SPEAKER_01: And when threatened authority senses movement, it moves to contain it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So starting in verse 32, we read, The Pharisees heard the crowd muttering these things about him, and the chief priests and the Pharisees sent officers to arrest him.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now in the previous verses, belief was beginning to stir in the crowd.
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  SPEAKER_01: They were reasoning.
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  SPEAKER_01: If this is not the Christ, who could do more signs than this, then who could they were reasoning, if this is not the Christ, who could do more signs than this man has done?
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  SPEAKER_01: Now what's interesting here is what intensified that belief.
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  SPEAKER_01: But now the leaders hear the murmuring, and when belief begins to spread, the threatened authorities react.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they sent officers to arrest him.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, if you're reading carefully, a question arises here.
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  SPEAKER_01: If they sent officers, if they sent officers, why isn't he arrested here?
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  SPEAKER_01: Now later in the chapter, those officers return empty handed, and the Pharisees ask, Why did you not bring him?
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  SPEAKER_01: And they answer, No one ever spoke like this man.
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  SPEAKER_01: So their attempt was real, but the arrest was prevented, because those sent to seize him were arrested by his words.
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  SPEAKER_01: And instead of reacting to their threat, Jesus speaks verse in verse thirty-three, I will be with you a little longer, and then I am going to him who sent me.
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  SPEAKER_01: A little longer.
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  SPEAKER_01: There is a calm authority in that phrase, a timing in his words.
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  SPEAKER_01: He says, I am going to him who sent me.
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  SPEAKER_01: He ties the destination to the origin that we saw earlier in the chapter when they said, We know where this man comes from in John 7 27.
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  SPEAKER_01: But Jesus said, I have not come of my own accord.
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  SPEAKER_01: He who sent me is true, and him you do not know.
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  SPEAKER_01: I know him, for I come from him, and he sent me.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we know that he came from the Father and is returning to him, which tells us that his time here on earth is purposeful.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's limited, not dictated by men.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then he says, You will seek me and you will not find me.
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  SPEAKER_01: Where I am, you cannot come.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now we're used to hearing, you will seek me and find me, like we read in Jeremiah 29, 13.
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  SPEAKER_01: And many of us are familiar with that saying.
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  SPEAKER_01: But here Jesus says the opposite, you will seek me and you will not find me.
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  SPEAKER_01: What kind of seeking does not result in finding?
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, verse 35 shows us the crowd's confusion here as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: They say, Where does this man intend to go that we will not find him?
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  SPEAKER_01: Does he intend to go to the dispersion among the Greeks in verse 35?
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  SPEAKER_01: So they interpret him geographically.
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  SPEAKER_01: The dispersion refers to the Jews who were scattered outside of Israel.
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  SPEAKER_01: Communities spread throughout the Greek-speaking world after the exile.
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  SPEAKER_01: They were large Jewish populations lived in places like Alexandria, Antioch, and throughout Asia Minor.
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  SPEAKER_01: These were still Jews, still covenant people, but living among Gentiles in the broader Greek culture.
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  SPEAKER_01: So when they say, does he intend to go to the dispersion among the Greeks?
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  SPEAKER_01: They are essentially asking, is he leaving Judea, going to the scattered Jews?
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  SPEAKER_01: Is he abandoning us and taking his teaching elsewhere?
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  SPEAKER_01: In other words, they reduce his words to travel plans.
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  SPEAKER_01: They assume he means distance.
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  SPEAKER_01: But Jesus is not speaking about geography here.
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  SPEAKER_01: He is speaking about access, about belonging.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they assume the problem is that they might not be able to follow him physically.
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  SPEAKER_01: But the problem is far deeper.
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  SPEAKER_01: They cannot follow him spiritually.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that is why the tension remains, because when confronted with spiritual separation, the natural instinct is to reinterpret it in earthly categories.
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  SPEAKER_01: And when we do the same thing, when Jesus speaks and we do the same thing, when Jesus speaks about spiritual reality, we often reduce it to external movement, external behavior, or external affiliation.
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  SPEAKER_01: But he is speaking about whether we truly belong to where he is going, whether we belong to the Father.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that is not solved by proximity, it is solved by life.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, earlier in John's gospel, Jesus said, You are seeking me because you ate your fill of the loaves in John 6.26.
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  SPEAKER_01: That was flesh seeking.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he also said, No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him in 644.
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  SPEAKER_01: And again in 665, he says, No one can come to me unless it is granted to him by the Father.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now we need to pause here, because this is where many believers feel the tension, because we have grown up hearing that salvation is an invitation.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: John 3.16 says, For God so loved the world that he gave his only son that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
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  SPEAKER_01: The call to believe, repent, and respond is real.
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  SPEAKER_01: Scripture does not remove that.
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  SPEAKER_01: But here's the tension.
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  SPEAKER_01: If the invitation is real and given to all, why do only some respond?
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  SPEAKER_01: That is the question John keeps pressing.
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  SPEAKER_01: We are comfortable saying we must choose, but we are less comfortable asking, why do some choose and others do not?
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  SPEAKER_01: Now Jesus does not deny human responsibility, but he does confront human ability.
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  SPEAKER_01: He says, No one can come unless the Father draws.
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  SPEAKER_01: That means the invitation and command are genuine, but the capacity to respond is not natural.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that is where we must sit for a moment.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because what John is exposing is not a contradiction in salvation.
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  SPEAKER_01: He is exposing our assumption that the decisive power belongs to us.
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  SPEAKER_01: We assume that once we understand the invitation, the timing of our response belongs to us.
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  SPEAKER_01: But Jesus keeps pressing.
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  SPEAKER_01: He says, No one can come unless it is granted.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the question is not whether the invitation is real, it clearly is.
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  SPEAKER_01: The tension is whether we assume the timing and ability to respond belong to us.
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  SPEAKER_01: We assume that once we understand the offer, we're free to respond whenever we choose.
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  SPEAKER_01: But left to ourselves, we do not will to be saved.
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  SPEAKER_01: So if anyone wills to come, it is because the Father has drawn.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if anyone seeks truly, it is because the Father has awakened.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if anyone responds, it is because grace has already moved.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let me say this clearly and allow this to resonate with you.
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  SPEAKER_01: God must save whom he wills.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because apart from his will, none of us would will to be saved.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let me say that one more time.
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  SPEAKER_01: God must save whom he wills.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is the offense.
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  SPEAKER_01: The offer is proclaimed to all.
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  SPEAKER_01: The offense is that salvation is initiated by God, not controlled by us.
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  SPEAKER_01: He says, You will seek me and you will not find me.
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  SPEAKER_01: That dismantles self-time salvation.
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  SPEAKER_01: Isaiah 55, 6 says, Seek the Lord while he may be found.
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  SPEAKER_01: That implies urgency.
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  SPEAKER_01: It implies a window.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the mystery is not why some fail to respond.
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  SPEAKER_01: The mystery is why any respond at all.
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  SPEAKER_01: Paul makes this abundantly clear in Ephesians 2, 1, 4, and 5.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you were dead in the trespasses of sins, but God made us alive together with Christ.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now dead men do not awaken themselves.
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  SPEAKER_01: Life is given.
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  SPEAKER_01: That should not discourage us, it should humble us, because it means that if you see, if you hear, if you feel conviction, that is not something you manufactured.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is mercy.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you are wrestling with these words, not dismissing them, the wrestling itself may be evidence of grace at work in you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now if something in you is unsettled, if something in you is exposed, or asking, Lord, is my seeking real?
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  SPEAKER_01: That is not something to run from.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is something to lean into.
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  SPEAKER_01: But if you hear Jesus say, You will seek me and you will not find me, and your immediate reaction is, that cannot apply to me.
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  SPEAKER_01: Without examination, without humility, without prayer, you may be repeating the very mistake the crowd made.
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  SPEAKER_01: They assumed proximity guaranteed belonging.
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  SPEAKER_01: They assumed that if they ever needed him, they could secure him.
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  SPEAKER_01: And Jesus says, No.
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  SPEAKER_01: So what do we do with that?
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  SPEAKER_01: We do not harden, argue, or delay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Scripture says, seek the Lord while he may be found.
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  SPEAKER_01: Call upon him while he is near.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not because the invitation is weak, but because the opportunity is precious.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you feel conviction, respond.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you feel exposure, repent.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you sense hunger for something deeper than flesh-driven religion, ask him for life.
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  SPEAKER_01: You are responsible to respond.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if you respond, it will be because the Father is drawing you even now.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is not a contradiction.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is grace.
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  SPEAKER_01: The mystery is not why some fail to respond.
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  SPEAKER_01: The mystery is why any of us respond at all.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the question remains: why are you seeking Jesus?
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  SPEAKER_01: Are you seeking him to stabilize your world or to surrender to his?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because where he is going is not reached by comfort, but by new life.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if he is drawing you, do not resist him.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let him make you alive.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because the same scripture that humbles us with God's initiative also gives us a clear, certain promise.
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  SPEAKER_01: Paul writes in Romans 10 9, If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not might be saved, not could be saved, you will be saved.
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  SPEAKER_01: And John writes in John 1 12, to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the invitation is absolutely real.
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  SPEAKER_01: The call is real.
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  SPEAKER_01: So repent, confess, and believe.
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  SPEAKER_01: Confess that Jesus is Lord, not helper, not accessory, but Lord.
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  SPEAKER_01: Believe that he died and rose again.
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  SPEAKER_01: Turn from trusting yourself and rest in him.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if you have done that, Scripture does not leave you uncertain.
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  SPEAKER_01: Jesus Himself said, My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
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  SPEAKER_01: I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.
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  SPEAKER_01: John ten, twenty-seven to twenty-eight.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if you have done that, not perfectly, but truly, Scripture does not leave you uncertain.
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  SPEAKER_01: Jesus Himself said, My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me, I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.
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  SPEAKER_01: John ten, twenty-seven to twenty-eight.
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  SPEAKER_01: Never perish, no one can snatch them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Salvation initiated by God is secured by God.
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  SPEAKER_01: It cannot be lost because it was never self-generated.
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  SPEAKER_01: And how do we know that life is real?
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  SPEAKER_01: Not because we prayed once, but because we continue to seek.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hebrews 11 6 says, Without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever will draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.
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  SPEAKER_01: The evidence of life is not flawless behavior, it is ongoing hunger, a desire to draw near, a desire to know him, a desire to cling to him.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that desire itself is a proof of new life.
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  SPEAKER_01: So if you're seeking him, not to use him but to know him, that is evidence of grace at work.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if today you realize your seeking has been shallow, then repent and come.
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  SPEAKER_01: Confess him, trust him, rest in him.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the question remains why are you seeking Jesus?
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  SPEAKER_01: And if he is drawing you, do not resist him.
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  SPEAKER_01: Come.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's pray.
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  SPEAKER_01: Father, guard us from shallow seeking.
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  SPEAKER_01: Expose every motive in us that desires your gifts more than your glory.
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  SPEAKER_01: If we are complacent, confront us.
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  SPEAKER_01: If we are hardened, soften us.
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  SPEAKER_01: If we are wrestling, continue your work in us.
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  SPEAKER_01: Draw us in truth, not comfort.
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  SPEAKER_01: Make us alive where we are dead, and teach us to seek you because you have first sought us.
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  SPEAKER_01: In Jesus' name, amen.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now I hope this message has helped you take a step closer in knowing just how much God loves you and wants you to know Him.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now in our next episode, we're going to continue in John chapter 7, looking at verses 37 through 39, where Jesus stands and cries out, If anyone thirsts, let him come to me and drink.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we'll see how that invitation connects directly to everything we've wrestled with today.
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  SPEAKER_01: God bless, and we'll see you next time on the takeaway.