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Furness Show 7-24: Getting ready for Hawks training camp, Corbin Smith, Danny O'Neil, Rob Rang · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: Choose Chill Merriers started a massive four games series with
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  Speaker 3: We'll talking about that in a second.
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks officially cookoff, turning camp to Arrol Virginia Mason Athletic
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  Speaker 2: Center and Renten veterans reporting today if they haven't already.
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  Speaker 2: Rookies already reported last week. Third seasoner Mike McDonald. You
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  Speaker 2: know what he did last year? Won a damn Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 2: Did he not? Rams? By many people still are the
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  Speaker 2: favorite to win the division, maybe the Super Bowl? They
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  Speaker 2: can pounce sand We hate the Rams. Yeah, we did well.
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  Speaker 2: The long wait is over. The national the nation being
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  Speaker 2: held hostage.
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  Speaker 3: It's done. It's over.
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  Speaker 2: Lebron James signing with the Philadelphia seventy six ers. He
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  Speaker 2: made that known today. Basically, I think this was kind
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  Speaker 2: of cool. I think he actually broke the story in
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  Speaker 2: his own tweets like this is one of those fun
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  Speaker 2: things like here's where I'm going, and then everyone else
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  Speaker 2: jumped on. I can confirm it. You don't need to
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  Speaker 2: confirm it. He said it anyway, He's gonna go there.
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  Speaker 2: Let's tell hell of an offseason for the seventy six ers.
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Brown, I pad Lebron, Yeah, okay, okay, a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of a discount to eight two years, eight million
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  Speaker 2: dollar deal a year, Okay, whatever discount my ass. I
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  Speaker 2: mean he's made a zillion dollars in his career. He's
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  Speaker 2: trying to win, and you know what, kind of like
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  Speaker 2: that along the way, here we go, Well, happy training camp,
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  Speaker 2: eve one and all. And I think when I say that,
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  Speaker 2: mostly it's for the media that I say that too,
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  Speaker 2: that are out there covering it every day. As included.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be out there on Monday. I'm gonna head out
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  Speaker 2: there tomorrow anyway, but we'll be out there's a radio
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  Speaker 2: station on Monday and then be out there and when
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  Speaker 2: they're practicing, we're gonna be doing shows there starting at
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  Speaker 2: six am with Chuck Powell and then into Greg Bell,
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  Speaker 2: myself and Softy and Faints. We're gonna be out there
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  Speaker 2: Monday morning. Chuck will be out there at six am
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  Speaker 2: and in a way we go, here we go. Training
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  Speaker 2: camp is going. Haven't seen a thing. Keep an eye
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  Speaker 2: on things with other rookies reporting. I think I mentioned
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  Speaker 2: I heard Greg mentioned this earlier. Be interesting to see
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  Speaker 2: what Tory Horton's situation is. Is he on pup to
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  Speaker 2: start things off? We'll figure that out. Corbyn Smith's going
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  Speaker 2: to join us here in about ten minutes or so.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to Corbyn on and we'll talk all things X.
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  Speaker 2: We're doing this all week, kind of a preview of
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  Speaker 2: training camp with the Hawks with Corbyn from Emerald City
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  Speaker 2: Spectrum Emerald Cityspectrum dot com. And one of the things
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  Speaker 2: that we are going to discuss will be hard knocks.
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  Speaker 2: Just have a little bit of fun. Who to watch?
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  Speaker 2: Who are the guys you want to be excited about.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get into more of this as we see it,
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  Speaker 2: and well not as we see it, but before we
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  Speaker 2: see the first episode does an airtel August fourth, But
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  Speaker 2: we'll get more into that a little bit next week,
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  Speaker 2: kind of see what the production looks like. And guys
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  Speaker 2: running around. It's been a while since. It's been a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of a circus out there and fans. If
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  Speaker 2: you guys remember when we were in year what three
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  Speaker 2: or four of the Pete Carroll era and they brought
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  Speaker 2: in like Terrell Owens for a visit, remember that, and
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  Speaker 2: he was and it was just an absolute circus and
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  Speaker 2: just the personalities at the time was shrm and everybody.
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  Speaker 2: It was it felt like just bigger than life at
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  Speaker 2: times out at training camp. Did he bring celebrities into
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  Speaker 2: the first year, It feels like the first couple three
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  Speaker 2: years more than at the end. Rain Wilson would show
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  Speaker 2: up every now and then to practices or even training camp.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean it's hard, he's he looks like a
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  Speaker 2: homeless person. So it was it was kind of like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I think somebody goes, hey, that's Rain Wilson out there,
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  Speaker 2: you know. And I don't put Joel McHale in that.
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  Speaker 2: He's just seems like he's everywhere and boring. But but
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  Speaker 2: Will Ferrell, I remember, I don't remember Will Ferrell being
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  Speaker 2: at practice. Noess, I'm sure he was somebody will probably
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  Speaker 2: fact check me on that. I do remember. I believe
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  Speaker 2: it was the first year we were covering a game Austin.
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  Speaker 2: Have to ask Danny if you remembers, because it was
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  Speaker 2: the year that Danny, before Danny quit drinking, we went
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  Speaker 2: on a little bit of Eric Williams was still here
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  Speaker 2: for the News Tribune as their beat writer before Greg.
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  Speaker 3: We were in New Orleans and.
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  Speaker 2: For covering a game in Pete's first or second year,
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  Speaker 2: and Will Ferrell was in the lobby of the hotel
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  Speaker 2: and it was a little bit of a smaller hotel
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  Speaker 2: in New Orleans, and I remember we're going down, We're
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  Speaker 2: going out to dinner, Like there's all this commotion.
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  Speaker 3: What's going on.
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  Speaker 2: There's Will Ferrell hanging out with Pete and everybody else
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  Speaker 2: in the track suit and doing his thing. And so
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, hey, this is like USC North.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like that kind of died down a little
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  Speaker 2: bit over the years, but I'll ask Danny Daniel remember
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  Speaker 2: more because he was on the beat back then too,
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, kind of cool scene with Will Ferrell. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: it was a circus for a while, like just bigger
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  Speaker 2: than life. When this team was on the you know,
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  Speaker 2: twenty twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, Marshawn was a bigger than
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  Speaker 2: life figure. Richard Sherman was a bigger than life figure
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  Speaker 2: at times. And and it kind of has been quiet
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  Speaker 2: the last few years out there at the Virginia Mace
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  Speaker 2: Athleics Center. Now you got hard knocks coming in now,
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  Speaker 2: I believe, I guess just the TV person to me
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  Speaker 2: the morbid curre. I'm curious what it looks like. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like those guys really do a good job of
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  Speaker 2: kind of hiding. Like when you watch a hard knock,
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  Speaker 2: you never see the cameraman in the background. Yet there's
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  Speaker 2: like a zillion of them out there, So we'll see
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  Speaker 2: what that looks like. I'm excited to see what the
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  Speaker 2: crowd looks like. And I say that for this reason.
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  Speaker 2: The I one man's opinion. Who's been at every of
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  Speaker 2: these camps since Pete, well actually since the Mike Holmberan era.
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  Speaker 2: They it feels like the last few years it's been
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  Speaker 2: a little more subdued, and no team in this market
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  Speaker 2: has the same passion or feels the same passion from
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  Speaker 2: the fans that these guys do. Not the Mariners, not
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  Speaker 2: the Kraken, not the storm, the Husky. It just it's
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  Speaker 2: a different vibe with those with Seahawks fans, but it
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  Speaker 2: has been a little more subdued. There's been times when
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  Speaker 2: you look out on the Berm and it's open practice,
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  Speaker 2: and yet you look out there and you know what,
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  Speaker 2: it's still there's empty spaces where you didn't see that before.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm curious to see what that's what that looks
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  Speaker 2: like when it's all said and done tomorrow. But it
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  Speaker 2: all gets going. You're the defending Super Bowl champions, and
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  Speaker 2: that's all that matters. You're the defending champs. You got
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  Speaker 2: a target on your back, You've got some questions that
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  Speaker 2: have to be answered. You've got some guys banged up.
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  Speaker 2: Even worry top of the list, you've got charbon Ay,
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  Speaker 2: who's and I'm kind of with Hugh on the Charbonney injury.
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  Speaker 2: I don't worry about that as much. I think he's
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  Speaker 2: a good player. I don't think he's truly a one
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  Speaker 2: A like guy that want that you're just gonna lean on.
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  Speaker 2: That's and I don't think listen, I don't think that's
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  Speaker 2: that's that's something out of the context. Because they went
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  Speaker 2: out and drafted a guy in the first round to
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  Speaker 2: play that same position and he's never shown you that. No, so,
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  Speaker 2: but they have questions with injuries and some other things.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm I'm let's go. Let's get this thing going.
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  Speaker 2: It's time for some football and get your thoughts to
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  Speaker 2: four nine four five one on the Takma Doodge text
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  Speaker 2: line started training camp. Is it is it really the
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  Speaker 2: start of football season for you as a fan or not?
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  Speaker 2: It is for us? For us in the media that
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  Speaker 2: are out there, Like I said, we're out there every
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  Speaker 2: day on the radio station, be out there tomorrow. For
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  Speaker 2: many of us, it is a start of football season
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  Speaker 2: for you as a fan? Is it the start of
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  Speaker 2: football season? I don't know if you look at it
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  Speaker 2: that way or how do you look at it?
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  Speaker 4: Is it?
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  Speaker 3: Is it like hey, here we go?
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  Speaker 2: No, this is the start of the Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's and and with high They had pretty high expectations
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  Speaker 2: last year internally, externally, there weren't.
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  Speaker 3: Those same expectations.
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  Speaker 2: They were coming off a season in which they were good,
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  Speaker 2: winning record but didn't go to the playoffs. It's a
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  Speaker 2: whole different vibe this year. So I can't wait. Mariners, mean,
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  Speaker 2: while they get here, in Texas. It was an interesting conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Greg Bell had the beat writer for the Rangers on
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  Speaker 2: Sean McFarland's name from the Dallas Morning News, and I
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  Speaker 2: was just talking to Greg a little bit off the year.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very different approach that the two teams have
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  Speaker 2: kind of going in and coming out of this series.
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  Speaker 2: We here in Seattle have been pointing to this series
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  Speaker 2: and saying, this is a massive, massive four games and
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  Speaker 2: I think you know, it's not going to determine necessarily
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  Speaker 2: who wins or who loses.
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  Speaker 3: Although let's say one of.
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  Speaker 2: These two teams probably is going to win the division
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  Speaker 2: unless Houston really gets hot, and if it's a one
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  Speaker 2: or two game difference, then this weekend would be that weekend.
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  Speaker 2: But Sean McFarland was telling Greg, it's interesting that if
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  Speaker 2: they come out of this series and they don't win,
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  Speaker 2: they may be sellers at the market.
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  Speaker 3: They may be moving some guys.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that makes this even more important for Seattle because
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  Speaker 2: if you think of it in those terms, in some ways,
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  Speaker 2: you could put these guys away, go take three or four.
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  Speaker 2: You could kind of literally put them away. How awesome
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  Speaker 2: would that be?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 2: Not officially put them away? But if you put that
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  Speaker 2: in their mind of like, Okay, we're and they're not
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  Speaker 2: treating this like a season, that's a that's a like
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  Speaker 2: Seattle's treating this as a season like we've got a
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  Speaker 2: chance to win it. Texas, according to Sean McFarlane, they're
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  Speaker 2: not treating it the same way. Very different approach. Now,
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  Speaker 2: what happens if these guys if Texas takes three or four,
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  Speaker 2: or god forbid, they sweep Seattle whole different mindset, Then
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  Speaker 2: what do you do if you're Seattle. I'm gonna paint
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  Speaker 2: this other because I think there's two extreme pictures here.
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  Speaker 2: One Seattle puts it in the mind of the Rangers that, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you really aren't a contender this year. Let's go ahead
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  Speaker 2: and sell by winning a series. That'd be phenomenal from
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  Speaker 2: our standpoint. The other side of it is the worst
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  Speaker 2: case scenario. What happens if Texas sweeps you all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden. Now you're four and a half back. And
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  Speaker 2: if anybody heard the interview on Tuesday, I believe it
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  Speaker 2: was with Monday or Tuesday with Scott Boris, Randy roseraine Is,
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  Speaker 2: he's the agent for a bunch of guys, but Kate
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  Speaker 2: Anderson being one of them, and of course they're restaurant
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  Speaker 2: pick old Ace Baby, Ace Ace Baby. They but he's
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  Speaker 2: also a Rose Raina's agent, and the guys asked him
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  Speaker 2: dicking and softy Assima Randy Rose Raina and they when
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  Speaker 2: I listened to his answer and I listened to fine
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  Speaker 2: and Softable said the same thing after the guy, it
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  Speaker 2: sounds like Roseanna is not going to resign.
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  Speaker 4: Here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if you're four and a half out and you
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  Speaker 2: have a question about whether or not he might re sign,
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  Speaker 2: do you deal with him? Like, do you make a
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  Speaker 2: deal with him?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe?
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  Speaker 2: Do you sell in a year in which everyone expects
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  Speaker 2: you to at least go to the alcs? So it's
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  Speaker 2: it's there's a lot. There's a lot to this series
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  Speaker 2: this week. All right, we gotta take a break. Corbyn
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  Speaker 2: Smith standing by, We're gonna talk Seahawks training camp on
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  Speaker 2: the eve. Continue our preview with Corben Smith Emerald City Spectrum.
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  Speaker 1: Next, it's time to take a deep dive into all
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  Speaker 4: Here's Ian.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Here he is Corbyn Smith our final pre camp visit.
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  Speaker 2: We've been doing it all week. It's been a ton
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  Speaker 2: of fun.
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  Speaker 3: Of course.
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  Speaker 2: Emerald City Spectrum. Emeral City Spectrum dot com is the website.
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  Speaker 2: More coming up at the end. Hello, sir, how are you?
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  Speaker 4: I'm good? Thanks for having me again as always.
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  Speaker 2: Well, here we are. We're on training camp Eve. It's
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  Speaker 2: training camp Eve Corbyn. We're ready to go. We've been
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  Speaker 2: talking about a number of things this week. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: get some other things right now, including what little fun
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  Speaker 2: with hard knocks at the end too. But before we
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  Speaker 2: get down that road, I want to we've been kind
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  Speaker 2: of effusive in our praise this week with the team,
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  Speaker 2: and rightfully so. Last I checked, I believe correct me
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  Speaker 2: if I'm wrong the defending Super Bowl champions.
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  Speaker 3: Are they not? Yes, they are. So there's there's a
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  Speaker 3: reason for that for sure.
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  Speaker 2: One thing I want to touch on, and when you
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  Speaker 2: and I were at Mini camp and OTAs and so forth,
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  Speaker 2: we spent a lot of time. You know, we're watching
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  Speaker 2: a lot of different things and a lot of different people.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things that we did kind of keep
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  Speaker 2: an eye on, and I remember I was, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was kind of in and out of the room
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  Speaker 2: doing radio shows. They were basically practicing when we were
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  Speaker 2: on the air, so I'd come out during commercial breaks
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  Speaker 2: or what have you. But one of the things that
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  Speaker 2: we I noticed a couple of times, and you kind
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  Speaker 2: of pointed it out to me. We're really curious about
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Milroe, second year quarterback, obviously the third stringer last season,
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  Speaker 2: did not throw a pass all year. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're wondering what the future for the Alabama former Alabama
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  Speaker 2: star holds. And there's some upside there, but there's a raw,
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  Speaker 2: raw piece of his game as well. He didn't throw
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  Speaker 2: a pass. He had a couple of runs. We know,
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  Speaker 2: it didn't fumbles, all that fun stuff. Let's just talk
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  Speaker 2: about Jalen Milroe year two. It's so early and it's
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  Speaker 2: OTAs and it's mini camp. Did you see anything different
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  Speaker 2: from Milroe so far as we headed into training camp.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I wish that I had a more
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  Speaker 4: positive Again, this is just my assessment, but I just
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  Speaker 4: felt like he at best was stagnant compared to a
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  Speaker 4: year ago. I felt like the accuracy issues, particularly the
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  Speaker 4: short to intermediate throws, and a lot of times it's
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  Speaker 4: been throwing mechanic base more than anything that's been on
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  Speaker 4: his tape since is Alabama time. It just seems like
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  Speaker 4: he kind of took a little bit of a step
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  Speaker 4: back there, at least in the open practices that we
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  Speaker 4: got to watch this spring, and he had several throws
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  Speaker 4: that got away from him that he either threw into
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  Speaker 4: the ground or through behind receivers airmailed a couple of them.
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  Speaker 4: And then those short intermediate throws are so crucial you
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  Speaker 4: have to make them in this offense, and so I
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  Speaker 4: didn't see the growth there that I was hoping to see.
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  Speaker 4: And then going through progressions that there were some decisions
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  Speaker 4: that were made in a look, interceptions are going to
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  Speaker 4: happen in practice. It's practice for a reason. But These
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  Speaker 4: were not the you know, good interceptions in practice variety,
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  Speaker 4: including the bell baiting him and picking him off on
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  Speaker 4: a throat of the flat that he quite frankly it
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  Speaker 4: was never open. I don't know what he was looking at.
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  Speaker 4: So the progression stuff, that throwing mechanics, consistency, those are
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  Speaker 4: still areas that he has a long way to go
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  Speaker 4: if he wants to at some point be you know,
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  Speaker 4: a number two quarterback in the league, or be in
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  Speaker 4: consideration for another team to acquire and make the number
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  Speaker 4: one quarterback if he wants to have that pathway. The
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  Speaker 4: areas of concern are major ones for playing the quarterback position.
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  Speaker 4: So I hope we see something different in training camp.
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  Speaker 4: I just it wasn't what I was hoping to see,
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  Speaker 4: to be honest, with what we saw in the off
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  Speaker 4: season program.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again I'm gonna you said it all emphasized
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  Speaker 2: as well. It is really early in this in this
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  Speaker 2: process for him, and they knew that going in that
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's it's almost I think in some ways, Corbin,
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  Speaker 2: it's a perfect scenario for both player and team, right
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  Speaker 2: in the sense of Sam Darnold, just, you know, did
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  Speaker 2: you know what they were hoping for and probably then
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  Speaker 2: some last season. They've got the perfect backup in Drew
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  Speaker 2: Locke as well, who seems to embrace that role and
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  Speaker 2: when he has to play, you know, you you probably
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  Speaker 2: feel pretty good about it. In the case of Milrow,
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  Speaker 2: they've got a four year window to work with, right
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Like it's it's you know, he wasn't a first round picks,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: but they do have a four year window to work
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: with the rookie contract, and so you know, let's see
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: what year two brings develop. I mean, it's kind of
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: a It's really a nice little situation for both player
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: and team to have, is it not?
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: It is and I think you know, you look at
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: where John Schneider came from Green Bay under Ted Thompson. Now,
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: one thing he has not emulated has been drafting quarterbacks.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: I mean he's only drafted three of them the entire
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: time he's been in Seattle. Green Bay. It was like
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: every year they drafted a QB and they had things
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: going in that regard. But you look at guys like
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: Matt Hasselbeck getting traded to Seahawks. He was drafted by
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: the Packer Originally Mark Brunell originally was a Green Bay
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: Packer like Seattle has an opportunity here at minimum, if
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: they can develop Jaln Milroe, that he could be appealing
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: to teams that don't have as good of a quarterback situation,
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: especially with the number two. So at worst, you've got
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: a spot where, hey, if we can develop him, maybe
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: we can get you know, maybe we can get a
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: draft pick or two back in return for him, especially
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: if he does some nice things in the preseason, and
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: best situation, if he really takes off, you can say, hey,
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: we don't have to worry about bringing back Drew Locke
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: next year because now we are confident that Jalen Milroe,
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: if he has to step in in the regular season,
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: that he can be the number two guy. So it
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: does give them a lot of flexibility here. But the
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: clock ticks pretty fast. I know four years seems like
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: a long time, but just think about it. I mean,
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: Devin Witherspoon was just coming into the league five minutes
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: ago and he is going into the fourth year in
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: the league. It goes very fast. So they're gonna have
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: hope that they see significant progress from him in camp
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: and in the preseason, and if we get to the
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: end of August, it's like man, it just hasn't improved much.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: That doesn't mean that you give up at this point,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: but I think that would be a somewhat discouraging development
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: for them, at least with you know, when they picked
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: him in the third or round and not getting him
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: to where he needs to be at that point. So
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: that to me is one of the big storylines to
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: watch in his camp. As far as guys that are
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: developmental projects aren't going to be playing on Sundays.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have many of those developmental projects on
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: an active roster in the NFL. I mean with the
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: fifty three man, you're just so limited along the way.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think they're gonna have He's only twenty
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: three years old, still really young, you know, like there's
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: a lot there and obviously the athleticism, the arm strength
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: is there, and can you develop the other things along
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: the way. Let's just kind of stay with that first
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: time Corbus Smith joining a central city spectrum. Let's just
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: stay with that room for a second. Drew Lock, Sam Darnold,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: you know, all this is the time of the year
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: that everyone's publishing lists right now. We got all the
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: lists out, you know, all the top one hundred list.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: The ranking season is indeed here and it means absolutely squad.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: The only thing that matters is when you know, we
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: walk into the Virginia Mason Athletic Center for training camp
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: starting tomorrow, we're gonna walk by there's two Vince Lombardi
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: trophies that we walk by every day in the lobby.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I think that's what matters. There's no ranking there that
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: tells you who the number one team is. But as
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: far as the quarterbacks are concerned, I've seen two or
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: three already, Like who are the top ten, top fifteen
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the NFL? Donald doesn't get mentioned most of
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: the time, and I kind of look at that like
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: and then people will say, well, is he just the
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: dumbest term in sports? Game manager? Stupid term, makes no sense.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Doesn't mean this is not Trent Dilfer from the Baltimore Ravens.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: How good do you think Seattle feels about Sam Donald
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: as our quarterback?
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: I think he belongs in probably that eight to ten
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: range if we're if we're looking at subjectively, I think,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, you have to look at the fact that
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: this is not a one year wonder anymore. I mean,
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: this is two years in a row and two different
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: offenses on two different teams, and yes, he was on
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: a really talented roster both in Minnesota and in Seattle.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Gets to the Super Bowl and wins it this past year,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: but like, he threw sixty touchdowns during that time, he
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: threw for over eight thousand yards, and I know there's
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: been some interceptions, but he did have any turnovers in
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: the playoffs. So you're seeing growth towards the end of
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: this two year window. And oh, by the way, he's
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: twenty nine years old. I know it feels like he's
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: been in the league for a long time, but he's
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: only twenty nine years old. So I think this Seahawks
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: are feeling incredibly good about where they're at a quarterback
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: and having a guy like Drew Locke who has shown
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: you that he can win big games that Monday night
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: or against Philadelphia a few years ago. Having a guy
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: like that who has loved in the locker I mean,
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Drew lock is as popular as anybody in that locker room.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: They love him. And having that situation, I think they've
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: got as good of a one to two punch as
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: you're gonna find in the league in terms of Hey,
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: they feel like they can win some games. If Sam Donald,
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: god forbid, went down for a few games, they feel
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: like they could stay competitive and win games with Drew
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Locke under center. So I think they feel really good
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: about where they're at with that quarterback room.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to Drew Locke back to him in
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: just a second. Let me stay with Donald for a moment. Yeah,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: he's going into his ninth year, but I don't know
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: if that really counts when you're playing with the Jets,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: that's those are like those are last year or so,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: that's like being abandoned on a desert island, like that
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter. And then a backup as well, you know
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: where you can't play it all in the Bay Area
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: With Donald? What needs to happen for him to take
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: that next step? Or is is the next step just
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: the fact that you do what you did last year
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: in this offense. You'll make the big plays when needed,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: You'll make the big throws when needed, You'll have the
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: game winning drives as you've had twenty plus in the
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: last two years when needed. Is that really all we
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: need to see from Sam Darold? And you know this
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: coming season is just kind of more of the same.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: I think to an extent, I think he is. I
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: don't want to say that he is at his ceiling
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: because I don't think that he is. But I think
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: he's a lot closer to that than what he would
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: have been, say, a year ago, because we saw the
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: growth that he made with the turnovers in the playoffs
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: late in this regular season, how much better he was
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: in a regards. Can he continue to showcase that for
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: an entire season. And here's the thing. I don't have
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: issues with some of the interceptions he threw. I would
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: rather have a guy that's aggressive, now, you know, not
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: being dumb, but being aggressive. So many of the throws
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: that he made that were great completions downfield. You know,
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: if he was trying to play two pass if he's
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: not even gonna take those opportunities. So you have to
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: sometimes you have to live with a few of those
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: picks with the way that his play style is. But
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: I think that is continuing to be an area of
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: emphasis for him. If you can lower your interception percentage
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: just to hair more from last year, which by the way,
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: it was lower last year than his season in Minnesota.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: And I think the other thing keep ticking up that
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: completion percentage a little bit. He's done that the last
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: two years. I think Brian Fleurry is going to emphasize
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: running backs and tight ends in the passing game a
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: little bit more than Clint Kubiak did. I think that's
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: going to lend itself to a higher completion percentage. Can
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: he get in that sixty eight to sixty nine percent
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: range or maybe even threatened seventy percent? Those are the
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: areas now he's just trying to polish a pretty polished
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: game already. You're trying to just find those little areas
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: that you can improve upon. I think that's the stage
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: of his career that he's at right now. Corby.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: You know what I love about Sam Darnold is he's
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: got the the mentality of kind of a defensive back.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: And I'll explain why in the second or even I'll
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: use this a good top end closer in baseball or
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: a goalie in hockey, and that is this. You're gonna
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: make mistakes. You're gonna give up goals, passes, whatever it happened.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: You're gonna give stuff up, a home run, all those
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: positions I just mentioned. But and you're gonna throw a
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: pick every now and then how do you respond? And
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: I know, like there's sometimes you see the stoic nature
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: of him and people wonder is he fiery enough. He
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: said that I'd rather see that than the nonsense we
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: saw from Geno smith Is last year in Seattle, or
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: even what we saw from Gino last year, or the
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: demonstrative you know, throwing a tantrum. The guy throws a pick,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: the guy makes a mistake, and I don't you know,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it bothers him internally, but it doesn't affect
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: his game. Corbuin. I think his resiliency is maybe his
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: biggest strength, and I think some of that.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Is from early in his career. You can you can
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: look at that, you know, it was a really rough
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: patch in New York. But I think that that has
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: that has built that resiliency, that DNA that he's got.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: I think he already had some of that in him.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: But I think that that is a case where somebody
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: really did maximize on the lessons that were learned when
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: things didn't go the way they were supposed to go.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: When you gets thrown into an awful situation where you're
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: expected to be the savior and you're not ready for
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: that or you're not. You don't have the support cast
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: on you to be that savior. He didn't have to
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: be that in Seattle, he didn't have to be that
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: in Minnesota. And I think that that resiliency, I think
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: the DNA aspect of it, he's got some of it naturally.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: But I also think he just he really did a
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: good job of taking the good lessons from those struggles
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: and applying them once he had a better situation around it. Yeah.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I think one of the things too, that you know,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: we had Luke falk on a number of times and
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: he still comes on the show quite often. He was
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: his backup in New York until he got hurt, and
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: then Luke was a backup till he got her, or
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: started till he got her. But Luke when he first
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: signed andim Luke just said, listen, man, you're gonna love
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: this guy. He's one of the best teammates he's ever had.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, just effusive in his praise. And I think
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: all the things you just said true. Let's talk about
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: just quick about Drew lock before we move on and
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: wrap things up little Hard Knocks conversation. You mentioned you're
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: in the locker room every day so you see it.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Describe what Drew Lock means of this team, because you've
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: got to have a guy. I mean, we were lucky
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: last season in Seattle they didn't have to use Locke
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: in any like high leverage situation, so to speak. But
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: it feels like Locke is that perfect backup. Maybe he
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: has even accepted his lot in life in the NFL, like, hey,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: this is who I am and accepted and embraced it
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: and is making the most of it.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: I think what you just said there at the end,
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: that is exactly what has happened here. I think Drew
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: lot you know, he got his chance to start a
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: few games for the Giants a couple of years ago,
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: but I think he is now at the point of
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: his career where he's like, look, you know, if I
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: if I get an opportunity at some point to start somewhere,
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: then hey, maybe I'll look into it. But I think
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: that he is very happy in Seattle. He loved first
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: in here. He came back last season for that reason, like, hey,
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: this is where I felt most comfortable. This is where
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: I played some of my best football when I did
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: play in a backup role. That big win over the
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Eagles that I mentioned, But I just think he you know,
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: he's got such a different personality than Sam Darnold, Like
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: he he's kind of a quirky, goofy dude. And I
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: think that his teammates really are fonto that, like, like
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: he's very genuine with it. He and you know, there's
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: still the meme that goes around with him where his
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: lips sinking rap on the sidelines with the Denver Broncos
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: like that. That's that's the personality that he is, and
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: he's genuine about it, Like there's nothing fake about Drew Locke,
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: and I think his teammates love about it. And having
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: a backup like that, it's a lot easier for somebody
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: like that to jump in and say, hey, I've got this.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Everything's good, we're under we're cool, we're calm collected. It's
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: a lot easier to that when you're with a backup
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: quarterback that knows who he is and is genuine about
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: who he is, and we know he's got the physical tools.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: I think he's got a top five percentile arm. He
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: always has had a big harm and it's just some
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: things early in his career, decision making whatever, just didn't
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: work out. And he didn't work out as a starter.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: But I just think he checks up all the boxes
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: for being a backup, that guy that gots to rally
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: around if he gets in the lineup, because he's likable
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: and there's nothing fake about it.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Corbus Smith Milllcy spect him all right. Tomorrow Day one
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: starts Day one of the filming and the taping of
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Hard Knocks on HBO. First time the Seahawks have been involved,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: first time in over twenty years, and a Super Bowl
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: champion has been involved. I know this is something that
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: they've somewhat resisted in the past, but they embraced it
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: this year. They're going to do it. Maybe it came
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: with a little bartering so they didn't have to go
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: to Europe or Brazil or wherever the hell. Maybe would
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: have sent these guys, but they're gonna bring them in.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you some names of guys that I
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: want to see focused in on. I don't know if
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: they will be, but I think they could be fun characters.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Far different team than back in twenty thirteen and fourteen.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: The personalities aren't as bombastic or over the top net necessarily,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: but there are some great personalities so I'll give you
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: a couple of names of guys I want to see,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: and also I want you to tell folks what you
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: think is going to be the best part about it
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: from a fans standpoint when they watch, besides getting to
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: know the players, like some of the behind the scenes stuff.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: I'll say this, I just go through the roster. I
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: think Gray Zabel could be a star for Hard Knocks.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I think Aj Barner should be a guy that they
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: focus in on. He's a ton of fun. Could be
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: a lot of fun to watch an Aj Barner along
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: the way, I know, like a Leonard Williams could be there.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I'd like to see them do a little Jaron Reid.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I think Jaron Reid could now be a lot of
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, you don't have to edit much stuff because
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: you can let stuff go on HBO. You can have
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Jared Reid. Ernest Jones will probably be a part of it.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: But if you want to have the best sound bites
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: and listen to guy Mimic, Mike McDonald, Taya Katta, those
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: are some of the guys I'd want to see.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: How about you?
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well, Devin Witherspoon has got to be at
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: the top list. Not just because the contract situation, but
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: just like Spoon is, he is the He is the
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: most fun player on the practice field that I have
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: ever covered, Like watching him sprint across the sideline even
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: when he's not in, going over to their big screens
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: that got looking at plays and telling the rests that
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: are out there like hey, you missed this one whatever.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Like he's just he is so much fun. He's so
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: loud too, so they won't have any issues with their
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: cameras picking him. Devin Witherspoon would be on my short
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: lest I actually think Cooper cup is going to be
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: a kind of a fascinating character because of his football
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: act him in and just the way that he the
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: way he talks the game. I think there's going to
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: be a certain set of fans that are going to
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: be really drawn to him. And he's also been on
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: it before. I believe he's mentioned that earlier. I believe,
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: so he's he already knows kind of what to expect
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: going into this. But I think Cooper Cupp is one
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: that would be fascinating. And I kind of think about
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: on the on the defensive side, anybody else that Derek Hall,
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Derek Haul would be you know the one that I think,
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: you know, they talk about him being the biggest trash
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: talker on the team. Now you get to maybe see
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: it on camera here. So those would be a few
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: names you didn't that I think would be really fun
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: and HBO should be trying to get some good sound
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: mites on that.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no shortage of guys for sure. Like I said,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: it's different personality than the team back that won the
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl in twenty thirteen, but there's no you know,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: they're not as over the top. There's it's just a
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: different vibe. But these guys, there are plenty of gains. Yeah,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Witherspoon for sure. Witherspoon. The interesting one with him is
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: I bet they're really hoping he gets the contract done.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: And because I think if the contract's not done, you're
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: gonna see a lot of Devin Witherspoon standing around with
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: his arms folded in a hold in right, not really participating.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: And that's not gonna be the personalities and that you
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: want to see from him.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: But we've had that conversation with Jake Bobo and a
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: couple of the other receivers over the years, how it's like, yeah,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Witherspoon just never shuts up. And you and I have
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: you and I have sitting next to each other and
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: witnessed it and heard it plenty of times.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: There are very few players, you know, I and you
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: and you and I like, at least from my standpoint,
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: like when guys shout stuff on the field, like there's
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: a lot of really funny stuff. Yeah, but like I
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: generally try, like I try not to like bust out
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: laughing or you know whatever. It's like, I'm trying to
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: be a professional. You know, it's really hard. With Devin Winders,
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: it really is. He's just and and knowing the guy
• 31:41
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• 31:43
  Speaker 4: good for a funny SoundBite and he is just very
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Bud Clark the rookie is another one that I think
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: him and Spoon together is going to be. That's gonna
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: be pretty fun to watch an HBO too.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Well, and they always focus in on a rookie, so
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: that Bud Clark might be the guy as well. Listen. Yeah, yeah,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: I think I think all those things are true. It's
• 32:03
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• 32:06
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  Speaker 3: Just just seventy five.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think he had an eighty five at one point,
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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• 34:33
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• 34:38
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• 34:41
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• 34:43
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• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I think Devin Witherspoon needs to get signed because if
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: he's if he's signed and he's a full participant during
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: training camp, which I'm and I'm saying, signed to his extension. Yeah,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: if that's the case, I'm with Corbin. I think he
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: could just be an absolute superstar on that show. If
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: and he's a funny guy because he's quiet when he
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: sits there at the podium and talks to the media,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: like he's kind of subdued. If you've ever seen his
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: interviews or listen to him in his quotes, even postgame.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: But on the field, that dude is just going twenty
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: four to seven. He is just chatting twenty four to seven.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: We've had that conversation with especially Jake Bobo always talks
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: about it. He's like, man, this guy drives me nuts.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: We had Ricky White, the third, who's a kind of
• 35:30
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• 35:33
  Speaker 2: the practice squad most of the year and a couple
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: active games as a wide receiver. He's the same thing
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: because he makes me better. I loved his converse. He
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: makes me a lot better. But he's always talking. He
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: always is talking. So it'll be interesting to see which
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: because I always, if you think about hard knocks, always
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: pick out a few players and they become focal plays.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: A lot of times, he'll find a guy who's a
• 35:52
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• 35:57
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• 35:58
  Speaker 2: cut right for TV purposes, and then they'll pick out
• 36:02
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• 36:03
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  Speaker 2: Jordan Seaton. You're saying, who's Jordan Seaton? I said the
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  Speaker 2: same thing, Rob Ranglind know he's a tackle really for LSU,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: for Lane Kiffin's team that's gonna be tasked with protecting.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Sam Levitt and Josh Hoover, the quarterback in Indiana are
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: all making more than Lebron James. Kentucky basketball player Milan
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Maba Chilovitch Chilovic used to be in at Iowa State.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: He's making more. He making He's making a lot more,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: I think than Lebron James. There's like there'll be some
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: college basketball players too. That's crazy. Now, by no means,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: am I saying Lebron James is in the poorhouse. By
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: any means, that's.
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  Speaker 3: Not the case.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of crazy. Today's call like if I would
• 39:42
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• 39:45
  Speaker 2: one two, three, four, six seven and college football player
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: is making more money than Lebron James playing college football.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Bick, what are you talking about?
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: It's crazy, your nuts. I mean, cam Ward's got this
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: great deal. Remember cam Wore was on the first nil
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Babies at Wazoo of all places, he his total package
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: was worth a hundred thousand. He got a little bit
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: more when we went to Miami, by the way. Yeah,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: but one hundred thousand, and there were people I'm raising
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: my hand me that didn't think he was worth a
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: penny of it, especially when he messed up that fourth
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: down play against Washington and Apple Cup and everything else.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I mean, now these guys are making
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: millions and millions and millions of dollars along the way.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: So there you go.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: That's that, all right, Mariners, Tonight take it on the
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Texas Rangers. I'm gonna be on this bandwag until he
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: proves me different. And it's kind of a blame game thing,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: but I'm gonna play the blame game a little bit more.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: The story in the Time today that I read with
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: great interests, I'm trying to see I should give credit
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: for whoever wrote it is it my was Adam Jude.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: He pointed out some things that you won't find in
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: the game notes, basically how bad the offense has been,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: and it's been one of the worst offenses in baseball
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: since June. They're twenty ninth in baseball right now. Are
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: the Mariners in runs per game lately? They've been just
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: god awful. Since they scored the ten runs against the
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Nationals early June. It's they're basically in the bottom two
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: or three of almost every category. I'm gonna just point
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: to one guy because I think in bat I think
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: one thing in baseball is there is there is an effect.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: You've got to have guys in your lineup that not
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: just carry the rest of the lineup, but provide protection
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: for everybody else in the lineup. A Rosarina, no complaints
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: with you, Randy, none whatsoever. You're fine. We've got no
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: complaints with Randy Rosina. Cal Rawley is the one that
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: I just cannot get past. And he had the Grand
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Slam and on the other night on Monday, and we're thinking,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: all right, like let's go.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Here we go.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna this things, this thing's turning around. His
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: homestand he was two for twenty one, two for twenty one,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: and I thought, well, okay, two for twenty one. But
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: he probably he felt like he got on base a lot. No,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: because if you go with the plate appearances. In twenty
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: four plate appearances he was he had three walks.
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: Not good.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: That's an ninety five average on the homestand and I
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: don't know what's wrong with him. And if there is
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: something wrong with him, we've all tried to dissect it.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: We've talked about it. The problem is this you as
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: an organization. This is not a Jerry to Poto problem, guys,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: this is not a Justin Hollander problem. This is not
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: even a Dan Wilson problem. You go into the season
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: and you're thinking, in the back of your head, cal
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Rawley is going to be a very big part of
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: our offense. Whether it's thirty or forty home runs minimum.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: He's not giving you sixty. We all historic seasons happened once.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Why Well, they're called historic for a reason, right, That's
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: why they're historic seasons. But for him to be where
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: he is right now and tonight he's facing a left
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: hander he's even worse against left handers hit in one
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: forty three. He's eleven for seventy seven, two home runs
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: and nine RBIs against left handed pitching this year. So
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: when he hits from the right side, he's been an
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: absolute zero for this team. He has to get better,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: has to get better. He's been great behind the plate,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I guess. I mean he calls a good game. He
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: handles the pitching staff. That's fine. I kind of believe
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: that Mitch Garver could handle the pitching staff, to be
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: honest with you, Hell, what's his face? Pareda could handle
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: the pitching staff or triple a catcher that was up
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: here for a while. He's got to hit.
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: He just has to.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: And I feel like in some ways like, oh, you're
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: picking on You're picking on col You're ripping on cat.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: It's not that.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: It's Imagine if Sam Donald was just produces nothing this
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: year for the Seahawks. Imagine if Sam Donald this year
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: is a bottom. If there's thirty two starting quarterbacks in
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: the NFL, Imagine if you look at Sam Donald and say, boy,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald is he's in He's in the lower third,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: and you know, quarterback rating, passer rating, touchdown, to interception ratio.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: You know, not touchdown, but just the ratio. If his
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: third down completion percentage is bottom third of all those number.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: If that happens with Sam Donald, guaranteed we're gonna be
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: blaming Sam Donald for a lot of problems with the
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Seahawks this year. Cal kind of gets a pass. He
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: can't get a pass anymore. He's got to get going
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: starting this weekend. I said that last weekend. I might
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: say it again next weekend, but Cal Rawley has to
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: get going whatever is going on. If it's health, put
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: them back on the damn DL, get him out of
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: the lineup and get them healthy. If it's health, we
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: don't know that. Only they don't that. Sorry, justin Hollander
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: lunatic fringe here. We don't know. But you've got to
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: figure out how to get this guy going because this
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: team is not a World Series contender with one of
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: the worst offensive players in baseball that plays every day
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: and at worst he's fifth in the lineup. We'll see
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: where he is later today. He's got to get better.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Naylor's funny. Naylor's numbers are odd. He's hitting two sixty one.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: You're like, okay, Well, in today's Baseball two sixty one
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: is pretty good and he's actually heating up a lot.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: He hit three to ninety one in the homestand so
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: maybe he gets going. Yeah, maybe he gets going. But again,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: overall this season he has him very good. Where would
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: this team be without Luke Raley and Randy Rose Arena
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: and Cole Young with his clutch hitting, He wasn't good
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: by the way Cole Young and the homestand either I
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: had a couple home runs, but he's four of twenty three,
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: so he wasn't great either. We know what Emerson has
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: been problem. We'll see what Julio gets going. Julio has
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: been maybe the one unlucky guy you can say. You know,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: he's barreling up all those all the other numbers, underlying
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: numbers tell you Julio's should be hitting better and should
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: have better results, and he's been getting But then you
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: ask yourself, why'd you pull yourself out of a game?
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Why'd you then sit out the first three or four
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: or five six innings the next game? What's going on?
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Just there's so much there. Let's wrap it up into
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: this this weekend in the pillow fight that is the
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: AL West against the team that's a half game ahead
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: of you, and probably unless the Astros really to turn
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: things around, your only threat in the division. Take a series.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Things feel a hell a lot better now the Dodgers
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: are after that. I get it, but don't worry about that.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: We're not worrying about the Dodgers series. It starts on Tuesday.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Take three or four this weekend. See if a couple
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: of these guys get going in the heat of Texas.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Although they're indoors basically, but you get the point. Let's
• 46:46
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• 46:49
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• 46:50
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• 46:55
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• 46:59
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• 47:02
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  Speaker 2: Jessman at one point, but he joins it did a while.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Danny's been a couple of weeks. How are you, my friend?
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: I'm doing very well and very excited for the Nick
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: Vannette era.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: At two point zero with the Seattle Yea, I saw that.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Did they officially sign him yet?
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: I think I just saw the announcement, or maybe not
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: the announcement, but the reporting from Bob Condota and.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Corbyn Smith Condata, Candata and Corbyn.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: I don't want to short.
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: There might have been other people who tweeted it, but
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: that's who I thought from on the Twitter.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Well, if you saw it on the Twitter, sir, if
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: it was. If it was on the Twitter, then we're
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: going with Nick fan. That was one of my favorite
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: guys to talk to. I'm sure for you too, right.
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a super enjoyable character and someone who came
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: kind of from that year where they had a bunch
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: of picks in the first three rounds and.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: It never quite popped for him here, but he went on.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: I think he.
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: Went to Pittsburgh. He's had a pretty good run in
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: the NFL and now it gets to have a little
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: depthsit tight end coming back to Seattle well.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: And I mean he fits kind of what they want,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: right He's blocked first catch later type of guy as well.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: And yeah, it looks like it is official. They signed
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks roster move. They announced that they have signed
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Nick Vanettes to come back, and then Tyrone Broden was
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: waived on the ninety man roster, so forty two games,
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: sixteen starts for the Seahawks before he went to Pittsburgh.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: How about this, this is tell me this isn't well, Danny,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: how often did you write when you were a beat writer,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: the well traveled, fill in the blank athlete.
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: It's one of those It's one of those backhanded compliments, yes,
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: because I always think, man, when a guy's been to
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: that many teams, it actually speaks pretty well of him
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: in the NFL because it means he keeps getting work,
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: and especially in a league like the NFL, where when
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: you get to the margins, it's you you've got to
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: do some work to hang around. But when you're a
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: well traveled NFL player, I think it speaks well, you're
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: staying power.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: So this is this is Vanette's resume since he went
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh. He was traded there in the twenty nineteen season.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Vanette so Seattle, Pittsburgh, Denver, New Orleans Giants, Chargers, Titans, Vikings, Rams,
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: now back to the Seahawks. So nine different teams.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, we're getting close to a third of the league.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: That's really your breath.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one more you're in a third, right, I mean
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: that's all you need. All right, Well, welcome back, Nick Vannett.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I alway kind of wonder what that means for, like
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: what else on the roster is happening, because they kind
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: of were set at the tight end position. So we'll see, Danny.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: I feel like you're angry this week I look at
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: you on social media, on the Twitter, the aforementioned Twitter.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: I feel like you're an angry man this week. A
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: lot of things have angered you this week, sir.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a little fired up. I'm definitely. Yeah,
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: I did get a little fired up.
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: I'm angry at the at what's happened in Portland. Yes,
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: I definitely am bothered by sort of the rising tide
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: of people kind of justifying the financial.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: That Tom Darndon is making. That's infuriating me. Yeah, that
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: fired me up.
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: I'm a little sick of some of the Dan Wilson,
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: not the criticism of Dan Wilson. But I don't I'm
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: not a big fan of the people trying to talk
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: about whether or not there's a there's too much criticism
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: of Dan Wilson.
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: I kind of feel like it is what it is.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: That's part of the job.
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: When you're the manager in a disappointing sort of so
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: so season, you end up catching a lot of flack.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: I don't feel like he's catching more necessarily than you
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: would expect given the situation.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Well, what's unpack that We'll we'll get to Dan in
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: the second. The Marriagers, I got a big series this weekend.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: As you know, Agets Rangers. Before you get to that,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: you're tell speaking of the well travel but you weren't
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: well traveled necessarily. But you worked in Portland, right, You
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: worked in Oregon.
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: I lived in Oregon, So I grew up in Klamath Falls. Yeah,
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: on the faral half of the state, sort of the
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: the untamed the southern armpit of Oregon, Climath Falls, on
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: the wrong side of the Cascades. But yeah, I lived
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: there for fifteen years. I have I have a fair
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: amount of antagonism towards one of the universities that are
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: in that state, but I also have a lot of
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: fun feelings about Portland and consider myself very.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: Very fluent in Blazer's history.
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: I once saw, once saw Kevin duckworths oh Clyde Drexler,
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: Walter Berry at the local Godfathers in Klamath Fall. They
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: were there for a preseason game, and I had them
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: sign autographs for me on the sneeze guard at the
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: salad bar, the Godfathers and Clima Fall.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: I love that you understood and in all seriously so
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: like me and I work there, you live there, you
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: understand the history and people say, why do we care
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: about the Blazers. There's a lot, a lot of reasons
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: to care about the Blazers. One I feel I think
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: a lot of people feel as if we are on
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: the vergen seeing history repeat itself with another Northwest team,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: whether it be the Vancouver Grizzlies, the Seattle super Sonics,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: or maybe God forbid in this case, the Portland Trail Blazers.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: You went after. I love what you did today. You
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: went after. There's a the weirdest column in the Athletic
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: was posted about basically, you know what, Dunn is just
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: doing what's right. He's cutting all these jobs. Fine, he
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: knows how to win, and we're going to give him credit.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: And I just I'm with you, man, I don't you
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: don't have to hand anything to this guy or give
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: this guy any credit. First of all, none of us
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: know what a bloated organization looks like, like like, no,
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: no media person unless you've worked for a team or
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: work for that particular team knows And so I kind
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: of I cringe at that. But what was your thought
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: on that article in the Athletic about Dundin.
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: Well, people tend to and I'm not sure exactly why
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: this happens. But they tend to want to comment on
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: how rich people run their businesses and kind of defend them.
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: But because well, you don't get to be rich by
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: being dumb, or you don't get to be rich. But
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: he's doing what's financially prudent. I don't care if an
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: owner is financially prudent at all. In fact, most of
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: my experiences tell me that when an owner is financially prudent,
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: as a fan, you end up taking it in the shorts,
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: either through ticket prices or a failure to invest.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: In the roster. Now that's for one. Dundon in the
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: NHL has shown that he does pay for.
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: Players, he saves on everything else and doesn't treat sort
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: of long term employees, especially in the broadcast part particularly well.
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: But he invests there, and then that brings it to
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: the second part of well, you have to understand he's
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: getting the organization. Look, when rich people take things over,
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: one of the things that happens is that they start
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: to extract value from it. One of the values of
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: a professional sports franchise is the employment that it provides
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: people in the area. And there's no rule thing you
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: have to continue doing that, or you can't run it leaner.
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: But anybody thinking that it is a benefit to choose
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: the local area to have a financially efficient or prudent
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: owner is lying to themselves because any money they save
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: is not going back into the community. It's going into
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: the rich dude's pockets. And also the top level salaries
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: that he's going to be paying the top level executives
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: to get employees. So that part really makes me I
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: think we should bring back shaming of rich people who
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: do things to make themselves richer. In sports, I think
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: it's okay to look at it and say, like, he's
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: being a jerk. He went and cleared out the way
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: he cleared out his broadcast staff, And I'm partial. I
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: love Kevin klapt yes and so, and there are other
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: guys like I know Neil Evers a little bit, and
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: reading the stories of how that happens, it's not a
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: surprise that he did any of this. But I'm certainly
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: not going to say like, well, that's the sort of
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: thing that happened. No, he's being a corporate cost saving jerk,
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: and I believe you should shame.
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: Him for it.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: The hurricane comparison I just hate on every level when
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: people bring up the fact, well, look, his team won
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup and they've been successful. There's been a
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: lot of bad owners. I just I'll appoint you to
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: the former Expo's owner slash now former Marlins owner that
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: won a couple of World series. Did you watch did
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: you watch the Exposu thing on Netflix?
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: Yes? I love the expos Yes, and yes I did.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: Jeffrey Laurie and who's who's he's got it? The guy
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: that was the president, David Sampson I think was his president, right, David.
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: Sampson who now works for freaking Dan Levatard, who's in.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: The media, and he was greasy, so greasy.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: He's the worst.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: He's the worst.
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: I think he's the steps on.
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: I don't even think he's actually related to to to
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: the to the owner. I don't think it's I think
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: it's his step son and we were floicted onto him.
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: Bill Bavasi is not going to be well remembered by
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: anyone in Seattle because he didn't do a particularly good
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: right as a general manager. He does have the best
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: quote ever about that dude, David Sampson, which was my
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: mom told me that if you the only say is
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: that David Sampson is a freaking idiot.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: You should say no comment.
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: So no comment.
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: Isn't my mom the greatest? Well, I mean said he
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: mispronounced frickin' too. It was wonderful.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: I wonder how he mispronounced that. Don't say it, uh
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: the dabnie O'Neil Jody guess Daga Pustic. I mean that's
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: the thing is like, like, you know, bad owners. Rydstorff
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: was a bad owner. He had Michael Jordan, right, I
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: mean that's like like by all accounts, I mean, there's
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: been a lot of you know, the Benson family like there.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: You can go through a lot of owners that haven't
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: been very good in the history of sports that have
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: won titles because somewhere along the way they hired the
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: right GM, or the right GM hired the right scouts,
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: or they got lucky in a lottery. However, there's a
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: lot of ways to win, right, you can have a
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: lot of great owners that don't win a championship too.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: That does happen as well. You know, they the Carolina
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Hurricanes are praised because they manage the salary cap in
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: a hard cap league. Let me emphasize that a hard
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: salary cap league, not one like the NBA where you
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: can go into the thresholds of luxury tax and pay more.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: The NHL is like the NFL. Remember when the Seahawks
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: had to cut Dwight Freey because they were one hundred
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: thousand over the cap. Like, that's how the NHL operators.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: You put guys. There'll be guys inactive or sent down
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: for three days to the HL because that's how hard
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: the cap is. They manage it well, but they're not
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: spending more money there on the players. They've been lucky
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: in terms of who they've been drafting. They did get
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: seb Sebastiana, who they've done some nice moves. That has
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with Tom Dundon at all, like like
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: outside of the fact he also has a coach that's
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: a lifer that has decided to stay there forever. In
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Rob Brindemore, sometimes it's like, you know, winning the sperm lottery, right,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Like sometimes you just it happens for you. And so
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to give the guy. I'm not going
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: to give the guy as an owner of much credit
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: for what he's done because he did the exact same
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: thing in Carolina that he just did in Portland. You
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: have a and even more so because John Foreslin was
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: highly thought a thought of when he finally decided to
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: lowball him and we get him here in Seattle, which
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: has been a blessing for the Kraken and their fans,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: but not but he let him go there, and then
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: what I was I'm still pissed off because I worked
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: for Comcast Sports Net when they were first, when they
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: were on the Blazers, and so did Travis, our producer today,
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: and almost every one of those people that got laid
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: off I worked with at one point. And I know
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: how it's been because when they laid off the seventy
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: people Danny at the end of the season, the people
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: in the broadcast department knew was coming, but they kind
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: of waited and waited, and then they let their contracts
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: expire and they didn't talk to them, and they then
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: they low ball guys. Travis Dumurz was a producer for
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: US at the Fan, worked his way up as a
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: as an NBA announcer. He does a great job. My
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: understanding is I had a source down there and tell
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: me that he was told to take a sixty seven
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: percent pay cut to do the exact same to do
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: the exact same job. That's not a good owner. That's
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: a cheap skate. And then the set when the guy
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: wrote the thing in the art in the Athletic And
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: I want you to comment on this about well, maybe
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: the organization was bloated.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: How do you know that?
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Are you telling me those seventy people that were let go,
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: including all but one person in the PR department, including
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: people that are selling corporate to advertise, if you're not
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: producing as a salesperson, you get let go. Anyway, all
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: you did is make everyone else's job easier, Danny, Is
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: that a good owner?
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: No, it's not.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: And here's the other thing that's and this is I
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: think this is one of the reasons that I'm specifically
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: angry about Dundon's situation is because he is acting like
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: he wants to move the team, and I think he
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: would like to move the team. I don't think there's
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: any chance the NBA is going to let him. And
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: I think he realizes he's got a very narrow window
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: of time before expansion. Is it happens in which he
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: can inspire a certain amount of fear and so he's
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: going to pretend and be as much of a tough
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: guy as he can to try to get the very
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: best deal he can out of.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: Portland, and it's probably going to work. To a certain extent.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: He is going to end up driving the profess pargaon possible.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: But that sort of behavior as a sports owner just
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: should never be lauded.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: And I agree with you on the bloat because when
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: it comes down to it, if you end up really looking.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: In side an organization, the real bloat often occurs with
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: executive salaries like this. The people that end up getting
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: cut in these cost saving measures are are people that
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: are at lower rungs where look man like. If you
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: want to applaud eliminating at people and having people in
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: your community lose jobs, I think I think that's scummy behavior.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying that you're obligated to continue employing them,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: but praising it as some sort of practice in fiscal
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: discipline or oh. I think the line was, it's it's
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: not necessarily pretty, but it's surprising more owners haven't done it. Man,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: owners shouldn't do this and they.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: Should be shamed when they do.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: What'd you call the guy a boot licker. Is that
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: what I think?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: I called it a bag of butt seeks? And then
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: the other guy was a bootlooker. Dundon's the bag of
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: butt sheeks and the other dude is the boot lickers.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Oh it's funny too because of the same in the
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: same to the same medium, the athletic, which I think
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: does a great job. Jason Quick's written three articles about
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: what a scumbag and what a cheap skate and how
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: he's trying to fight the city and everything else that
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: Tom Dundan is. And then this guy comes out, also
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: an NBA writer, and says, oh, no, he's a really
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: good dude. I'm gonna tell her I talked to Jason
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: this week. He's gonna be on our show next week.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: And you know, Quicker, He's like, yeah, man, this guy's
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: not a good dude. Like, this guy is not a
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: good dude at all. It is Danny O'Neil joining us.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I want to urge people, if you haven't
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: seen it, go to Danny's ex or Twitter whatever you
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: call it account, because you put the picture up there
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: of Chip Kelly. Can you explain?
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: Can you explain?
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: Please? He looks like he looks like the girl from Charlie,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: Charlie and the Chocolate Factor, the Blueberry Girl.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: When she ate that he does look like the blue Girl.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: There's this picture that pops up.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: And it took me a second to recognize him. I
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: will admit I didn't realize he was that Chip Kelly
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: sits now the offensive coordinator at Northwestern.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: Yes, but by god, there he is, and he looks
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: so short as he's wearing hard at It's the strangest picture.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: And when I looked at it, I thought it was
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: a graphic of like how you'd look if you were
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: on Jupiter because of the higher gravitational pull would make
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: you more compressed. He really, he kind of looks like
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: Ramman from he Man, but just this barrel of a human.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: He he.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: The picture's gone viral, and you know, there are those
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  Speaker 2: that love Chip Kelly. They are those that you know,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: look at Chip Kelly as the Oregon coach, and so
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: that would of course include people here that don't like
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Chip Kelly. I look at him as the failed San
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine er coach as well, so you know
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: that's also kind of fun to look at him as well. Yeah,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: he is he is trending right now in all the
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: wrong places as well. Last year, of course he was
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: with Pete with the Raiders. That didn't work out too
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: well for him there. I always thought that guy, and
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: this is a little bit unfair, but you know what,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: that's what we do sometimes, Danny, it's a Friday. I
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: looked at chip Kelly a little bit, a little bit
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: like urban Meyer this way, and tell me if you
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: if if I'm way off, if you think I'm way off.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: But urban Meyer went to Utah and took over a
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: team that and I knew it because I was there.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: I left the year I left literally the right right
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: win chip Kelly got. When urban Meyer got to Salt
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: Lake that fall, he took over a team that Ron
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: McBride had put a roster together that included Alex Smith,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: who he red shirted, Eric Waddle, I mean, a whole
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: bunch of NFL guys and Kyle Winningham and a bunch
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: of his other assistants had recruited those dudes. And rban
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Meyer comes in and wins. Now he won it, he won.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: He he had that great success. Then he goes to Florida,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: which had a bunch of pieces in place, and won there.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: Chip Kelly, he was. He went there with Mike Bolotti.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: Mike Blotti had that thing humming like he he took Blotty,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: took it from Rich Brooks and had that thing hummon
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: and then chip Kelly took it to a different level.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: I get it, but it was already in place. I
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: I don't give chip Kelly the credit that some people did.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just a chip Kelly hater.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: No, he's puzzling to me because I thought he was
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: kind of a dufe when he got the job. And
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: then at the way they played, I was, and in retrospect,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: I would say, really impressed with the speed they had,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: well the speed of the players and then the tempo
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: that their offense played at. But then he went to
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: Philadelphia in the NFL, and that really kind of progressively
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: got worse.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: Over his time there.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: But he wasn't terrible right out of the game, and
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: maybe that's he's taken over from Andy Reid and what
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: was there. But and then when he went to use
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: La then it was I mean, I think it was
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: just pretty clear he didn't want to recruit, so he
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: wasn't really trying anymore. And he ends up leaving that
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: for an offensive corner. He's had an exceptionally strange career
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: because for someone who was I mean before he took
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: the Philadelphia job the year before that he was gonna
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: go to Tampa Bay and then kind of waffled at
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: the last second and didn't end up going. But God,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: now you look at it, and he doesn't do anything
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: particularly well, let alone being a guy who was once
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: so well thought of that he ended up getting multiple
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: NFL head coaching gigs. And maybe it is that that
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: there was more about he has to have somebody picking
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: the right personnel for him, and when he gets in
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: charge of the personnel, it's been it's been bad. I
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: mean what they traded with Sean McCoy, I think for
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: Tiki Alonso like they did some They definitely did some
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: goofy stuff. He also remember when he was with the Egos,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: this is what I remember players talking about. He was
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: obsessed with their urine. He would make sure to collect
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: their first morning's urine to test it because he was
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: like really into sports clients. So he was like after
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: guys about making sure that they turned in their pe samples,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: which doesn't exactly inspire confidence within your What you're most
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: focused on is their pe uh.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: By the way, it's us. Victoria Beauregard is the Blueberry girl.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: That's who.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: But Daddy, I wanted to know.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: I wanted to know whoa Okay, now I got Now
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with this. I wanted to get to. I
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: wanted to get to who was the guy was was
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Chipped the coach with the Wizonator? Was that le Garrett Blunt?
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: Who was that with the That's Ontario Smith.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: Ontario Smith. That's right, that was before Chip Kelly. I
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: think right, you're talking about right there.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: The one I remember with Chip Kelly is that he
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 5: had the recruiting consultant. I think his name was Willie Lytles. Yes,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: and will Yes lived in Texas, Yes, And it was
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: very questionable the quality of information that Willie Lyles was providing,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: but he seemed to be very close to some players
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: that came from Texas, including with Michael James.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: And when he provided his.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: Scouting reports, and they started pointing out how much money
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: that the Oregon program was paying to Willie Lyles for
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: his scouting services.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: One of the kids he prepared a scouting.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: Report Ford had unfortunately passed yes, he was not an
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: eligible recruit. At that point, they had recommended and created
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: a scouting portfolio of a dead kid, which did not
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 5: speak well as to the quality of information being provided.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: As we sat here and tried to defend the Great
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: State of Oregon, I feel like everything has come back
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: to there's a lot of greasy things going on in
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: the Great State of Oregon. Before I let you go,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: daddy O'Neil dag apostrophe, I'll let you riff and just
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: and make a statement on one. Dan Wilson.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: I don't know if Dan Wilson is the right guy
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: for the job. I have some very serious questions about
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: the way he adjusts mid game in handling the bullpen,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: and it seems that when their ideal plan for how
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: the game goes goes off track, he does not adjust
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: particularly well. I also have some questions about how he
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: communicates to the team. However, I believe that the problems
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: that this team is facing this season have nothing to
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: do with Dan Wilson and really have to do with
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: cal Rawly having a steep drop off, possibly because of injury.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: The fact that the right handed bat that Rob Refsneiner
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: was supposed to provide has It's performed more like corpse
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: and there has not been another solution that has been deployed.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: And perhaps that's another situation that Dan Wilson has not
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: adjusted quickly enough to. It seems that Terry Francona respects
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: dom canzone more against the left handed pitchers than his
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: own manager does. But on my list of problems, Dan
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: Wilson is not at the top. So I'm not going
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: to lay down in the tracks on the tracks to
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: avoid him being run out of town. However, I don't
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: think that that's something that if you ask my opinion,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: I don't want him fired, but I really want people
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: to stop saying that Dan Wilson is the most unpopular
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: manager of the past twenty years, or that he's getting
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 5: so much undeserved grief, because that's only true on a
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: very small corner of Twitter, and that is not indicative
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: or represented entire world.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: So does he does he need to go?
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: Potentially and some people feel he does right now, and
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: that's okay, but it's it's this isn't this isn't a
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: witch hunt.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: It's not a witch hunt.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: In the meantime, people can go google Violet, Violet Buregard
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: and Chip Kelly, and see see if those two pictures
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: match up. When you can have some fun with that,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: there's ai stuff. I'm sure people can have some fun
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: with that. All you Husky fans, go go get it,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: go have some fun. Tell people about the day apostrophe, sir.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 5: It is at Danny O'Neill dot com. You enter your
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: email address and I send it to you. And if
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 5: you remember what happened to Violet bure regret.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: Maybe I will provide this in the next up a
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: d update because they sent her to the juicer.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: So perhaps Chip Kelly needs to be sent to the
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: juicer and we'll just we'll get him back to normal
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: shape by juicing him.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: I forgot about the juicer part of the story. Yeah,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: oh god, yeah, Dan, Chiff Kelly, Nick Vanatt. I mean,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: I love to do comparison next week. Who's been more
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: places along the way. I will check with you next Friday,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: my friend. Have a great week.
• 1:11:28
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• 1:11:30
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• 1:11:57
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• 1:12:01
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• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: to you. I'll just hit this one. So, mog, have
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: you watched if you like, if you flip on the TV,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: can't miss it. There's like the we're in the we're
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: in Little League World Series time now. Yeah, the boys
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: I think kind of get going a little bit more
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: regionals and stuff like that. Next week the girls Little
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: League Softball World Series are in the regional tournaments right now.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Snowholmish. They they made it from our
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: neck of the wood. Yeah, they're they're representative of the West.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: I guess it is so good for them. I think
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: Daniel Lourie is our coach for udub Star. Well, yeah
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: it does. And it wasn't her daughter pitching in the
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: in the clincher. It was somebody else that was just dominant.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: So good to see. I'm gonna make the assumption they're
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: doing things is the right way, but that's not always
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: the case. Shockingly, in youth sports, story just came out
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: a little while ago. Tulsa National Little League has now
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: been disqualified from the Little League Softball Southwest Region Tournament.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: Why this is a great one. The Little League International
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: Tournament Committee determined that the adult volunteers and parents did
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: not provide quote sufficient documentation to verify that all players
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: were eligible to participate in the international tournament based on
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: either their school enrollment or bonifide habitation within the league's
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: official boundaries. They put together a super team that wasn't
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: from the boundaries in Little League this even though it's
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: they when you get to the Little League World Series
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: softball baseball, it's like the All Stars. Like I know,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: when I was growing up Magnela Youth Association, it was
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: like we had the All Star team. Ballard had an
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: All Star team, Queen Anne had an All Star team,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: except all across the Sea. You play each other and
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: whoever advances then they move on to the next round
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: and then you take on Mercer Island's All Star team.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: But we were all little leaguers from the same little
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: league right back then. Basically it was are you in
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  Speaker 2: town and can you play? Or are you out of
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  Speaker 2: town on vacation. That's how most of us became a
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  Speaker 2: quote all stars because some of us weren't very good,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: me included, but we were all stars because that's what
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: it was. Now with all the select teams and travel teams,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: it's a little bit different. So you have to play,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: you have to be in that region, in the boundaries
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: of that particular little league in this case it's the
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: Tulsa National Little League, and you have to attend like
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: a school in that area if it's not a private
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: school like one of the public schools, and a lot
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: and you have to play quote regular season little league games.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: Apparently this Tulsa team for the softball for the twelve
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: and under girls. We'll let me emphasize that, take the
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: girls out of it. For kids playing ball twelve and under.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: They had kids from out of state, wow, out of
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: the city, out of the area that all of a
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: sudden just showed up and they're on the Tulsa International
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: or sorry, Tulsa National Little League team and now they
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: have been banned.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: Cheaters, cheaters, cheaters.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: I've wondered that for a while, you know, because there's
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: a long time with the league, both especially with the boys.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: The Danielle Monte fans, he was like, what was that?
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: Was a benchwarmers where that I'm gonna pull us offt here.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: Do you ever see bench warmers? No? Great little baseball movie.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: Young kids playing, they're they're kind of cruise a line.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: They played a team and they had a guy that
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: that uh like, didn't he I think he's from Mexico
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: or something like that, and international player. He was like thirty,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: had a mustache and they go how old are you?
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: He goes, I'm twelve.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: No you're not.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: He shows like a written out thing, I am twelve
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: and all this stuff. Danielle Monty was that guy. I
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: was mostly was age issues. Right now, we're bringing in
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: kids from out of state so you can go to
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: the Little League World Series as a twelve year old.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: Come on, and these poor kids, it's all the parents,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: all the parents. And then I always say, it's the
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: poor kids that should have been on that team, right,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: this should have been on that team that got excluded, Like, well,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: why is little Muffy here playing? She doesn't even live
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: in our state. She's from Oklahoma, or that'd be the
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: same state. She's from Tennessee or wherever the hell she's from. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: so Tulsa cheated, snaw Hoomish didn't cheat. Goh Sta Homash,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: go Stahomish, All right, go Snowhoe County. They need something
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: good to happen up there. All right, We'll take a break,
• 1:16:26
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  Speaker 2: on this year. I should mention they just opened up
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: a brand new location in enum Claw. It's out there,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: right next to the fairgrounds and I think there might
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: be is a rodeo this weekend. Maybe it was last weekend,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: but right next to the fairgrounds, right close to the
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: golf course in edam Claw in the Claws we call it,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: and next to the football high school football stadium as well,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: I think called Petspool. It is a great location, great facility.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: I go to the Maple Valley one, but I did
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: check out the one in Edham Claws. Sensational. Rob goes
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: the one down in not tom Water. Where do you
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: go to water?
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 7: Okay, Dumbwater, Yeah, some water, Lacey, Tacoma at every place
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 7: I can find it for reirly as.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going, I love it. I love it.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: We're excited to have them back this year and Rob
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: as well. During the football season college season, every Friday,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: for those that are new, Rob comes on. We talk
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: about the big college games coming up that weekend and
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: some of the draft prospects to talk about as well.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: Today I wanted to get robbed. I want to get
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: you on today just to look ahead. Training camp starting
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: tomorrow Monday will be out there. We'll be talking about
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: a lot of these young guys for the Seahawks as
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: we go to training camp. What I wanted to get
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: with you with is, let's kind of revisit the draft class,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: but also just some of the other rookies that I
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: know when you're out there, whether it's for for foxsports
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: dot Com, for kjar or for your other gig as
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: a BC Lions guy, is who is some of the
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: guys you know you're keeping an eye on that. Maybe
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: we'll fly to the radar as a dish, you know,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: Jendarium price for sure, Judarium price for sure, but others.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: But we'll go through that class in a second. The
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  Speaker 2: first thing that jumped out at me though, Rob, is
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: this the ninety man roster. Thirteen of the ninety are rookies.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: That seems like a fairly small number compared to years past,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: and certainly in terms of undrafted free agents. What is
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: that only five or six undrafted free agents. That's that's
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: very strange for this team, isn't it It?
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: Is.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, it's almost minuscule compared to what we've seen
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 7: in the past and the John Schneider era with the Seahawks,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 7: they oh they have it had such great track record
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 7: of bringing in undrafted free agents or late round draft
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 7: picks and making the roster and some cases becoming absolute stars.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 7: And you know, I think one of the latest examples
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 7: of that, we just think of last year's team. Now
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 7: grad these weren't rookies, but they were undrafted free agents,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 7: but they became starters and in a Jalen Sendell at center,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 7: at Taya Katta at safety. You know, they they were
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 7: really important parts of the team.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 6: This year.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 7: However, you know, you are talking about the defending Super
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  Speaker 7: Bowl champions, So jobs are going to be difficult to
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 7: come by. And I think that the representatives for all
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 7: of these players of this recently concluded draft, if they
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 7: weren't selected by the Seahawks, and I think that they
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 7: were thinking, hey, you know, the Seahawks only lost five
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 7: players really from their from their Super Bowl run. There's
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 7: just not going to be that many jobs. And so
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 7: I think that's one of the reasons why you see
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 7: the lesser numbers. And I think that John Schneider and
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 7: his team basically anticipated as much. And that's one of
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 7: the biggest reasons em why they traded as much as
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 7: they did on Day three. And you know, I hired
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 7: the draft picks to get those players into camp because
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 7: that's the life blow of every franchise. You've got to
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 7: have good young players on the on the rise. And
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 7: they were able to do that without relying on the
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 7: undrafted free agents in the past.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and as mentioned, I mean they only have one,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: two three at six, I think they only have six
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: undrafted free agents one two three, just one two three,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: five five undrafted free agents that are on the ninety
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: man roster right now. Let's just talk about some of
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: the draft picks and kind of revisit that a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll start with Jadarion Price, the first round pick,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: thirty second overall in the draft, running back out of
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame. You were really high on him going into
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: the draft. He was available at thirty two. They took
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: him on draft night, We talked about it. You were
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: high on him then, even though he never started in college.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: What do you want to see from him during training
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: camp and the preseason.
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  Speaker 7: I want to see improvement in the passing game, not
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 7: only as a as a pass catcher. I think that
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 7: that he showed plenty in his limited opportunities as a
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 7: pass catcher.
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  Speaker 6: At Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 7: Uh, you know, he only had about a dozen catches,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 7: but he uh, you know, I want to see more
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 7: improvement in past protection. You know, obviously he was a
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 7: kick returner, and so you know, I feel confident that
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 7: he has the hands, uh to to be able to
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 7: handle that role in Brian Fleury's offense. But you know,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 7: we've talked about this so many times over the years
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 7: in that running backs at the college level, high school level,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 7: they're they're being paid essentially at this point to run
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 7: the ball crazy thoughts and not be in pass protection.
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  Speaker 6: And so that's one of the things that Price is
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 6: going to have to prove that he can handle.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 7: Because the backs that he is replacing with a Bucanthwalker,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 7: the third certainly is zach Scharbonnay, even George Halani, they
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 7: all show that they could handle that responsibility. And so
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 7: if he's going to get himself onto the field, then
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 7: he's going to have to be good at play. What's
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 7: interesting about Jenarian Price is that this is not a
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 7: dynamic athlete. I mean Walker the third You could just
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 7: see the explosiveness in just the way that he moved.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 7: So I thought that, you know, immediately he was going
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 7: to get a whole bunch of the Loki Loo fans
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 7: from the Burm to get excited about him. Whereas Jandarian Price,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 7: he doesn't have that same kind of elite speed.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 6: He is faster as a football player than he is
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 6: on the track.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 7: He ran a four to four to nine, which is
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 7: plenty fast enough on the track, but way to you
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 7: see him actually when the when the pads are on,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 7: when when the defenses trying to actually tackle players, that's
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 7: when you're gonna see Judari and Price and how he's special.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 7: I feel very confident that when it's all said and done,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 7: Jadarian Price, you know, might have justifying the number thirty
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 7: two overall selection. He's gonna bec Al's runaway leading rusher
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 7: as a rookie.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: Corbyn you've heard of this name before. Corbyn Smith is
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: his name. I think he might be vaguely familiar with him.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: We talked about him. He said the same thing. It's
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: just like he's football fast, he's not necessarily track fast. Well,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: he talked about his vision. Is that what jumped out
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: at you and you watched him as just his vision,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: and how does that fit with this scheme?
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: Do you think?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, vision and anticipation, you know, the vision of course,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 7: it's just basically, when the running back gets the ball,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 7: then can they see where the hole is developing?
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 6: And if it's not there, then do they know where
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 6: to look next?
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  Speaker 7: And that's one of the things about Price that I
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 7: saw that has me really excited about him in this
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 7: fit in the wide zone offense that I think that
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 7: Brian Flurry is going to focus in on Mike McDonald said,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 7: is that they're going to be sprinkling in a little
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 7: bit more gap. And I think that that's a good thing,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 7: just because I think it's Seale's one of their strengths
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 7: now of their offensive line, or one of the strengths
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 7: of their team, excuse me, is their offensive line, and
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 7: that's just been so rare in the past.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 6: So I do think that you can.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 7: Sprinkle in a little bit more power that gap scheme,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 7: and I think that either way, Price's ability to hit
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 7: the hole quicklyiently, I think it's going to make him
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 7: a beautiful fit. What I really like about him, and
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 7: we talked about this a little bit throughout the pre
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 7: draft process, is that you know, he knows when is
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 7: zig when everybody else is zagging. So when you see
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 7: a linebacker or a defensive back who is you know,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 7: just screaming upfield or screaming downfield to try to get
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 7: to the line of scrimmage and be able to stop
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 7: the running back, he is already kind of setting up
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 7: his cut. He really you hear this analogy of chess,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 7: you know, making a move, you know, countering moves and
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 7: anticipating moves, making moves two three steps ahead ahead. That's
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 7: one of the things that Price does, I thought better
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 7: than any other running back in last year's class entirely.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 7: That's including Jeremiah Love, of course, who number three overall
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 7: to the Arizona Cardinals. Unbelievable talent, Jeremiah Love, but not
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 7: as not as instinctive of the running back. And that's
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 7: the biggest reason why I've been using this comparison to
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 7: the Hall of Famer Terrell Davis, who ran in the
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 7: four sixes, you know, back when he came out of
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 7: college to Georgia all those years ago. But he just
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 7: played the game so quickly. It's almost the way that
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 7: JSN runs the route, and that you know, again another
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 7: guy who ran a four or five to two at
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 7: the forty yard dash, but plays the game so fast,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 7: JUDI play.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 6: Jordian Price plays the game fast as well.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with this because some of the guys
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about, some of the un drafted
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: guys maybe in a second two, but I want to
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: I want to kind of give it a dealer's choice here.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: Bud Clark the safety, Julian Neil the corner, both Stevens
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: the guard. Those are the next few picks that they took,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: and that gets us through the fifth round. The rest
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: of everybody else is a sixth or seventh round pick.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: So Clark, Neil, Stevens. Of those guys, who really are
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: you most intrigued by, most interested in, and most curious
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: about in terms of how camp and the preseason is
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: going to go.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 6: Well, I think that you got to go with Bud Clark.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 7: I mean, obviously he was a second round selection, so
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 7: in one way that is kind of low hanging fruit.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 7: I also think that he is the rookie, along with Price,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 7: that is most likely to see significant play time.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 6: This upcoming season.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 7: Ian, look, I'm fascinated by Julian Neil the cornerback. I
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 7: think the guy is the biggest position of concern right
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 7: now for the sex just in terms of depth, right
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 7: But I think with Bud Clark just his positional versatility.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 7: He played an awful lot of that deep free safety,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 7: but a lot of nickel at TCU and the ball skills.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 7: I just think about all of the great defensive backs
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 7: on the Seahawks roster, the one thing that's kind of
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 7: lacking is ball skills. Rak Wollen was the flashy interceptor
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 7: of years ago. Kobe Bryant has shown that ability as well.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 7: You know, obviously both of those players are no longer
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 7: members of the Seahawks. Devin Witherspoon, as great as he is,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 7: has not been a big interception guy. Same with Nicki
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 7: Mian worry. So I just think that Bud Clark, you
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 7: sprinkle in his instincts, his hands, his makeup.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 6: Speed, and in his height.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 7: I mean, he really is able to climb the ladder
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 7: and catch the ball and its highest point. And so
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 7: I think that that is going to be a skill
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 7: set that Mike McConnell's going to find a way to
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 7: take full advantage.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 6: Of this season.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting you mentioned Price and Clark. You
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: guys have the chance to get on the field bigger picture,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: just frow get back to some of the rookies that
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: we're watching. Does that not just speak to how strong
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: this roster is that there's really very little room for
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: any first year guys outside of the running back and
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: potentially one of the two dbs to make a big
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: impact this year. Doesn't that just speak to the strength
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: of the roster that John Schneider and his staff have built.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 6: It really does?
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 7: I mean, just this is a the best young team
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 7: in the NFL. And you know it goes not saying
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 7: I mean, you just win the Super Bowl. Of course,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 7: of course you're the best team. But to to win
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 7: the Super Bowl and then have as few players leave
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 7: the upcoming season, you know, that really is unique. And
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 7: then so many of the of your best players are
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 7: also some of your youngest players. You know, they ringing
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 7: Offensive Player of the Year and Jackson Smith and Jigba
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 7: is twenty four years old, and you know, Devin Witherspoon,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 7: Nicki min War, you know, and then their early twenties.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 7: The offensive line is all twenty seven years old or younger,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 7: and there's just such skill.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 6: Talent and such youth that to me it really is exciting.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 7: I mean, I you know, we get caught up sometimes
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 7: and being homers and all that kind of stuff in
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 7: the recency bias, but there's every reason to suggest if
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 7: this is the potential dynasty here, just because again so
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 7: much young talent at some of the most premium positions
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 7: and still on relatively cheap contracts. So it's like going
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 7: back and rewind here a little bit thinking about the
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 7: legion of Boom and just recognize and just how dominant
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 7: they were going to be.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 6: That's the thing.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 7: This dark side defense and some of the skill position
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 7: talent that they have on offense as well, really does
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 7: shit the Seahawks up for quite the run.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: Somebody said the other day I was talking to some
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: saw this from somebody like, well, you know, both Stevens
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: with the fifth round pick the guard out of Aisle
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: was a little bit of a disappointment in OTA's and
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: mini camps, and I'm saying, like, what are you talking about,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: Like it's now and then I thought, well, it's because
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: of the rotation. He was like third string. I think
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: it best ever during some of those those summer camp,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: those summer workouts, and I'm thinking, well, first of all,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: he's a fifth round pick. The pads aren't on, you
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: can't do too much. So I would reserve judgment on
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: anybody saying that, Hey, bo, I want to see both
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: Stevens when the pads go on the one to one
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: pass brush drills, and I think, help me out here,
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: rob Bo Stevens is probably it's probably big for him
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: to see what happens during the preseason.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 7: Oh, no question about it. I just look, I'm very
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 7: high on Boa Stevens. I believe that he can be
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 7: a starter in the NFL. I just think that there's
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 7: two guards ahead of him that are at right guard
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 7: that are also.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 6: Quality starters in the NFL.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 7: And I know that Anthony Bradford is a is a
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 7: player that you know when he makes a mistake, it
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 7: is he's so large and some of his mistakes are
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 7: so obvious that you know he's going to draw the
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 7: wrath of Seahawks fans forever and ever. But the reality
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 7: is that he's entering the final year of his contract,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 7: and whether it be at the Seahawks or some other
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 7: NFL team, next year when he gets a ten plus
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 7: million dollars pay day, you know, perst season after this
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 7: up tending season, and then you're gonna see that the
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 7: NFL clearly values him. And so again, Anthony Browd For
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 7: somebody who talked about a lot the young men I
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 7: want to talk about is Bryce Cable dudes, and I
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 7: was really impressed with what I saw from him a
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 7: season ago.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 6: He had previously played right tackle at.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 7: Kansas, and they asked him to play inside it at
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 7: left guard and right guard position. So he's shown the
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 7: ability to play on either side of the line. He's
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 7: a guard in the NFL, not a tackle. He doesn't
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 7: have elite length, kind of like the afore mentioned Bo Stevens.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 7: That's the only knock that you have on him. But
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 7: I really like Cable news athletic ability even more so
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 7: than Stevens. And so to me, it's not that I'm
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 7: not high on Bo Stevens. I'm just very very high
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 7: on Bryce CABLEDO. And I think when it's all said
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 7: and that doesn't really matter, Anthony Bradford's going to be
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 7: your start at the right guard position. Grays Abel's going
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 7: to be your start at the left guard position and
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 7: everything else is going to work itself out in the Wash.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: Rob ranging Bright to by Ferrelli's pizza Frelispizza dot com
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about some of the guys we didn't talk
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: about on that the eighty five hours or whatever it
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: was of draft coverage we had out there at the
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: Virginia based Athletic Center in late April. And I want
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: to start with a guy that when they signed him,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: I think you right away. You and I talked about
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: him the following Monday. Marvin Jones Junior is a linebacker
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: out of Oklahoma and they signed him as an undrafted
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: free agent. All we're number fifty nine in camp. I
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: think you like this player right.
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  Speaker 6: Well? I just love I love the bloodlines, I love
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  Speaker 6: the potential.
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  Speaker 7: You know, this is a guy who was as hype
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 7: as you possibly can get because his father was number
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 7: four overall selection all about twenty five years ago or so.
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  Speaker 7: To the New York Jets, Marvin Jones and me, he
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 7: was an absolutely dynamic player.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 6: And Marvin Jones Junior has, you.
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  Speaker 7: Know, just kind of failed to live up to all
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 7: of the hype so far.
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  Speaker 6: He's bounced around.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 7: He was at Oklahoma, he was at that's where he
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 7: came from most recently, but began his career I believe
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 7: it was at Georgia and then went to Florida State
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 7: where his dad played, and it just hasn't clicked for him.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 7: But my goodness, there's expression that some of the scouts used.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 7: We say, body beautiful. You're just guys that look the part.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, he's six foot five, he's two hundred and
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 7: forty five pounds.
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  Speaker 6: I mean he is just as cut up as it
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 6: as it gets.
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  Speaker 7: You see the initial quickness, you see some flexibility, you
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 7: see some power.
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  Speaker 6: You just don't see all three at the same time.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 7: And so that's one of the things I think the
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 7: Seahawks just see a player that's that's got all the
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 7: traits in the world, and they're just waiting for something
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 7: to click.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 6: And I think, again, with.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 7: All of the talent that Seattle has, it's kind of
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 7: a pressure off type of a situation. If I think
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 7: that he is a perfect practice squad candidate and somebody
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 7: who you know, is a little.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 6: Bit of a lottery ticket Franklin.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: The other undrafted free agents. Aiden Hubbard is a linebacker
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: at Northwestern USO. Ciamalo is a nose tackle out of
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: Kansas State. He's large, six three three thirty mentioned Jones,
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: Lance Mason, a tight end out of Wisconsin, and Rashad
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: Rochelle out of Indiana State. Any of those guys Ones,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: You're going to keep an eye on. They think you
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: have a chance to maybe find a practice squad or
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: a long shot to make a team.
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  Speaker 6: Oh you know me, I mean, and they're all interesting
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 6: guys in a lot of ways.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 7: I think that Just the contrast with Aiden Hubbard compared
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 7: to what we just talked about with Marvin Jones junior.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 7: Marvin Jones Junior, again, it's gonna be wearing I believe
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 7: he said number fifty nine, And with Aiden Hubbard, you'
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 7: look at number ninety three.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 6: He's six foot four, he's two hundred and sixty pounds.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 7: He's just a little bit shorter, a little bit squattier,
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 7: much more powerful, much more technically refined, and you know,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 7: a more instinctive player.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 6: He is not the flashy athlete, doesn't have those the
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 6: DNA the.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 7: NFL teams are looking for, like Marvin Jones junior, but
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 7: he's just a better football player at this point so
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 7: he is certainly somebody number ninety three that I'm gonna
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 7: be watching just to see how that seat howle aligns him.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 6: For one, if he is gonna be kind of a
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 6: stand up rush linebacker.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 7: He is not an elite athlete, but my goodness, he
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 7: closed as well again his physicality, So he's certainly.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 6: Somebody I'm excited about.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 7: And then you mentioned that my favorite big guy this
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 7: draft class for the Seahawks in terms of the big
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 7: defensive line, Devin Eastern, of course, is a with a
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 7: draft pick. He's on the pup list and I'm fascinating
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 7: to see what happens with him. But who's to Samolo
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 7: six three three and thirty pounds?
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 7: You know, we talk a lot about how Seattle has
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 7: kind of been interchangeably moving some of these noseguards. It
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 7: feels like Brandon Peelee has been around forever, and he's
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 7: certainly makeson praise when he's had his opportunities. But sam
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 7: olow Was is a younger, cheaper player, and I think
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 7: that he's going to play a very similar role.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 6: And I was impressed during the rookie mini camps. I
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 6: thought that this is not just a slug.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 7: I mean a lot of times you get guys at
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 7: three hundred thirty pounds, it's all they can do is
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 7: basically hold the point.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 6: He could do a little bit more. He should have.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't call it, you know, sideline to sideline speed certainly,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 7: but it was tackle to tackle speed. He could get
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 7: down the line and make himself a nuisance as well.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 7: He's not going to ever be a sack guy in
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 7: terms of gaining pressure on the quarterback, but he certainly
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 7: can clog things up in the middle and he does
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 7: his job, and I think that's something that Sile is
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 7: going to prioritize.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: Once you're out there laying eyes on guys, and once
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: we get closer and into the maybe the preseason game,
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: we'll definitely have to check back and see how guys
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: are progressing. And it's just wild to think like a
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: franchise that has made its heay so often. You mentioned
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: the two recent Socata and Sundell on undrafted free agents,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: curse Baldwin. Go through all the lists over the years,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: there's been so many, and yet this year there's only
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: five of those guys in camp, only only thirteen total rookies.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: Of the eight draft picks it's just it's kind of
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: it's it speaks volumes to how strong this team is
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: in terms of being built. And then you got like
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: you mentioned the guys like Bryce Cable do that was
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: second year guys. I mean that that second year. You've
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: talked about it often, Rob, the second year. A lot
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: of times we see those guys take that next step
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: along the way and we'll see what happens. So there's
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: a lot of football that we talked. This is only
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: day one Tomorrow, Day one of training camp begins. We're
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: out there on Monday, and my man, Rob Rang is
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: on speed dial and you know, my friend, we will
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: be calling you often as we get through the process.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you ians. I always enjoy talk football
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: with you. That is Rob Rang, Fox Sports, NFL Draft
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: Insider scout for the BC Lions and the CFL.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: I didn't get into their struggles. I didn't want to
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: do that to them.
• 1:38:45
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• 1:38:51
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  Speaker 2: All right, four nine four five one. That is the
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  Speaker 2: Tacoma Dodge text line four nine four five one.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna get to this real fast.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: Greg Woods from the Spokesman Review He's the Washington State
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: beat writer, tweeted out an hour ago that officially the
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: Apple Cup of Basketball is no more, at least this year. Wazoo.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: This is from Greg Woods. Wazu and U Doub will
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: not play each other in men's basketball this upcoming season.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: Per source.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: Wazo wanted to play, I'm told, but instead they will
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: play an exhibition in Seattle. I'm gonna insert this myself.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: Why bother Cougars and Huskies have played each other every
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: year since nineteen seventeen in one of the country's longest series.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: So every year since nineteen seventeen and no more.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 3: That's that. According to Greg Woods from the Spot.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: There was a couple stories, rumors, stuff about that in
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks at this that it was
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: going to be the Apple Cup of Basketball was not
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: going to continue. The great saying it sounds like it's
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: official now I see anything from either school this will
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: cause two things to happen. Every Washington State fan will
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: blame the former Washington State athletic director who now works
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: at Washington as the athletic director there. Everybody at Washington
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: will say, well, Wazoo's afraid to play them, They don't
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: want to play them. It doesn't or or it's not
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: worth our time, blah blah blah, et cetera. All right,
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: neither program has any room to talk about being good
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: because they both suck right now, so any argument about
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: I'm better.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 3: Than you is dumb.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: There's the other one saying, well, Sprinkle doesn't want to
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: play it this year in Seattle because there'll be more
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: Wazoo fans there than you do fans, which I guess
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: was the case the last time two years ago. We
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: can play the blame game and point fingers and yell
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: and scream all you want, but it's too bad they're
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: not playing. I'm okay with it. I really didn't want
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: to play the Apple cuple football anyway. I'm just kind
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: of done. It's not the same playing it in September
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: in a non conference setting. It just for me, my
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: one guy's opinion.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to include either one of the series anymore.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: For Wazoo, I would tell you you want to play
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: a game in Seattle, play a real game in Seattle.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: That counts if you're gonna play Seattle Pacific or somebody
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: stupid like nobody would. And then when I say see Pacific,
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: that'd be an exhibition game D two school, then don't play. Well,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: he's got a lot of problems. Enough, we gotta get
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: Harlow on again. I'll talk to Ess.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 3: I just I don't know what they're doing anyway.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: That's it, but it sounds like they wanted to play
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: in Washington didn't. So according to what Greig Wood said,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: we move on.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: All right, do do do?
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: The juicer might work for Chip Kelly. Look, look it's
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: softy he d juice and hasn't been reduced since that's true, softy, skinny,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: skinny softy? What time line is this? Where the strength
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: is the old line? Keith thing didn't make sense today.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: Keith might have done a text like I do with
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: Justin and Andrews all the time with the voice to talk.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: I might have done that to you this week. So
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: if I did apologize, yeah, if that's it, Jeremy what
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: is more annoying Megan's saying we or swoops man, Meghan Rapino.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you keeping trotting the Meghan Rapino
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: Sophie Cunningham transgender debate is going strong right now, women
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: or I guess biological men and women's sports.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 5: I would.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: Urge people to listen to Jerry Brewer segment yesterday with
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: Soft and Feana. I thought it was just they hit
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: on that along with a lot of a lot of
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: topics really good, Like it was a really really good
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: segment with Jerry. The only thing I disagree with Jerry
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: yesterday is he did say along the lines of transgender
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: athlete playing in the WNBA goes, well, that's never happened,
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: it never will. I think there was one example of
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: one doing it at one point, like briefly that aside,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: That's not what Sophie Cunningham's talking about. What she's talking
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: about are younger like grade school, high school kids that
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: identify with being a female that may or may not
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: be a female playing against biological females. That's what Sophie
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: Cunningham is I don't think it's a WNBA issue, but
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: it's an issue that has the has people divided. It's
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: also an issue that's interesting because it's there's such a
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: small amount of people that are involved that we're talking about.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: It's not like it's there's hundreds of thousands or even
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: thousands of transgender athletes wanting to participate and maybe not
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: wanting to participate in what they were biologically born as,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: but what they identify as, or what they've had transition to.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: What have you.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: It's in some ways to me, at least, it's I
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: don't want to say it's much ado about nothing, but
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: sometimes we focus in on the few as opposed to
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: the large, blown out of proportion. Yeah, it's just it's
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: and it's just Softie said it yesterday, and I think
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: Dick mentioned it as well. It's one of those topics
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: where there isn't there. Every situation can be different, they're
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: not all the same. There can be a gray area,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: but you better pick one side or the other. And
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: if you pick the wrong side, then the other side
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: is going to come at you with you know, hell
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: and brimstone, right, So whatever side you pick, you're gonna
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: have blowback one way or the other. Megan Rapino's gonna
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: have blowback.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: So if a.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: Cunningham's gonna have blow back. Riley Gaines is gonna have blowback.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: But I would just I would urge people saying with
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: Jerry Brewer yesterday, it was really good, really really good
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: with those guys. They did a terrific job and Jerry
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: just Jerry tackles a lot of topics. Hey, Ian, the
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: biggest sales sports star that you mentioned a while back.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: Calsanino like that. Calsanino, Oh God, Calasanino. Should we have
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: bars selling their beers as batting average like Dave Valley
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: back in the day. Two things one the calas Andino One.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: I shouldn't laugh, but I kind of liked that kind
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: of apropos kind of right now, it kind of is
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: the Dave Valley that was what was that?
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 5: That was.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: Swanny's I think it was was doing that and Valley
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: was pissed and rightfully so. Like but I actually mentioned
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: this to the guys at the Queen Anne and Occidental
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: Beer Halls. I mentioned this to juice into into GARYA.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: So you know what you should do is you should
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: do that like well drinks or something certain certain time
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: of the day, like a well drink for Col's batting average,
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: I go get one. Hell yeah, under two dollars. Now
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: I'm spending their money and they're gonna like lose money
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: on the proposition, probably, But yeah, what the hell, buy
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: some buy some food. You'll be fine. Uh, this sales
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: biggest sports are. Jerry mentioned that yesterday. I know he's
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: referring to because Jerry Minch brought that up, that I
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: had brought that up. I forget what the context was. God,
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: I wish four nine, four to five one. If you remember,
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: I remember bringing up that I thought Cal was the
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: most important athlete in Seattle. This was months ago, and
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: I don't remember what the context was or why I
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: brought it up, but I do remember bringing it up
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: and talking about I thought he was and that was coming.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: This was before the season started. Coming into this season,
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: I thought Cal was our most important athlete in Seattle.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: I might have been defending him from a previous host
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: that used to work here.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: That might have been it, but I could be wrong.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure got it.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: But Jerry brought that up.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 3: Yes to go.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did say that, and Jerry said, hey, you know,
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: he made a compelling argument, but I disagree, And I
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: might disagree now with myself not might I do? Yeah,
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know who the most important athlete is in
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: Seattle anymore.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 3: I really don't.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: I thought it that. I think going into the baseball season,
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: Cal was he was the biggest star. I think he
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: was the most important too, because I think my point
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: was without him, the Mariners don't do and arn't who
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: they were last.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: You're an LCS team.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks are such a collection. I know they had
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: the offensive player of the year. I understand that, we
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: all understand that. But I kind of feel like that
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: collection of players. Could they have gotten away without having JSN?
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess statistically maybe not. But I have
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: to ask Softy. Maybe he remembers how I brought that up. Actually,
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: there's zero chance he'll remember how I brought that up. Okay,
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: let's see, do you like James Dolan bad owner?
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 3: Correct? Yeah, James Dolan is a really bad owner.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: Let's see, hot take? What's that hot take? That's not
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: even a hot take. But he did win a championship.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: We talked about how bad owners can win championships. Yeah, yes, okay,
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: I think we're good. Softy will join us. Coming up next,
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: all right, area is Dave soft. I will see you
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: out at.
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  Speaker 3: Tomorrow. No, you will not see me there tomorrow. You
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 3: will see me there on Monday. Yeah, no, I don't
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: go until, so you have to till, like, well, not
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: till I have to. I'd go tomorrow, but I got
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 3: something going on. Can't make it golf. Of course, I'll
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 3: be there on Monday at the vMac at Seak training camp,
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 3: looking forward to it. Man, is tomorrow the first day
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 3: for fans? Is that correct?
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: I believe Saturday Sunday?
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 3: So we are parking in Olympia taking the train up?
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 3: Is that right to the vMac as media depends on
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: or do you get like special treats depends on who? Okay, Well,
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: what I've been doing the last couple of years is
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 3: just parking at Dinos and you just frogger across the freeway.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: And then then you afterward exactly go right back to Dinos.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: Actually tell my wife it's like, honey, I gotta go
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 3: back to Dino's. Well, why do you have to go
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 3: back to Dino's because my cars there? See see about
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 3: thinking one step ahead? Boys, she's playing checkers. I'm playing chess.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: So I heard your I heard your guy. Brewery yesterday.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Jerry, and he says, Jerry, he says, uh again,
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: when I was talking about cal rally be the most
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: important player, which I was. I don't remember the context
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: of that though.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 3: I had said a couple of years ago that I
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: thought he was the face of the franchise after he
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 3: blew up after the Mariners decided not to do anything
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 3: at the deadline. Remember that, maybe I stole that man.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 3: Talk about typically that's how you think that was exactly.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 3: I'm not surprised by that at all.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: But I don't think he's that guy anymore.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 3: I think you just refreshed the conversation.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: I think I did too.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, I love the guy for what he did
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, you know, for a young
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 3: guy to go after ownership like that and that that
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 3: it's simultaneously the day that I fell in love with
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 3: cal Rawley and the day that I fell out of
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: love that was in love with Scotch Service. I just
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 3: could not believe was forced to do that. No, I
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 3: don't think so. I think him and Jerry were on
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: the same page on a lot. Maybe not forced to,
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 3: but he was on the same page with Jerry. So
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 3: he's I'm gonna go defend a guy new school, old school?
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 3: Could you ever imagine little to go, I'm gonna go
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 3: defend the guy's gonna fire me. Lou Panela telling a
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 3: guy Sun take it. It's okay, well, okay, right, I
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 3: mean never, never would he say that because I was
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 3: because I wasn't here.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: I was in Salt Lake City, right, hanging out David Locke. Right,
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: how did the Nelson stuff go down?
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 3: It was the end of the because it was similar, right,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: it was towards the end of the two thousand and
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 3: three season, I think it was, and he made a
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 3: move or made a comment about not going after anybody,
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 3: and you know, EM's got pissed and they traded him.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: So it was it was similar, but he was easy.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: He could you could trade Nelly, right, you know I
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: conna trade. But it was similar, right, yeah, yeah, absolutely
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: eluding What was that Bob Melan by then?
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: That was Bob Melvin, correct, that was Lou was gone.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 3: His last year was I believe in two thousand was
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: it two thousand and two or two thousand and one?
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 3: What year was Panella's last year? Because I remember he
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 3: went to the Rays for Randy Winn then right, yeah, yeah,
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 3: I think it was Melvin.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: Sure they got scared of clowns.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 3: That was no, that was yeah, that was Bob Melvin.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 3: H Glenn Allen Hill was the guy that was afraid
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 3: of spiders. End of the twenty two season, sorry one
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: more year.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: So then Nelly was Bob Melvin was a manager when Nelly.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 3: Did this must have been the end of the twenty
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 3: three season for Jeff Nelson because they won I think
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 3: they won ninety three games two years in a row,
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 3: and they missed the playoffs.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, well, and they would have made him this year,
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, of course, so.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, so yeah, so that was That was the
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 3: day that I fell in love with Cal and my
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 3: relationship with Service went down the toilet.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: How was it before?
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 3: Was Service?
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 3: It was fine, Yeah, fine, and no problem, I like whatever,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 3: I like. I mean, there really wasn't much the guy
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 3: can do. When Jerry's blowing the roster to Kingdom Come
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 3: for five years in a row. It really wouldn't have
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: mattered who the manager was. For you you think Service
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 3: pushed job for him? Do you think Service would have
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 3: this team in a better position than Wilson? I think
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 3: a lot of people have a lot of recency bias,
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: and forget how much Scott's service was falling apart. Remember
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 3: that Tiger series when before they hired Dan Wilson. Now,
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: the Tigers turned out to be pretty good. Actually, yeah,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 3: they made a run, but there were a lot of
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 3: people that were just done with Scott Servis for a
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 3: lot of reasons, similar to Dan Wilson, which again, you know,
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 3: the common thread is the front office. The common thread
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 3: is the construction of the roster. So if they do
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: eventually fire Dan, which they'll never do during the year,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 3: but let's say they make a move over the offseason,
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 3: he steps aside. You know, it's a mutual thing. Whatever.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 3: It'll be Jerry Depoto's third manager at that point in
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 3: four seasons, and then the cleag lights are squarely on
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 3: him and Justin Hollinder to get a roster that can
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: win and win consistently. I mean, we're looking back now
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 3: at last year and we're like, well, that was a fluke, right,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 3: How how Naylor played for two months was a fluke.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 3: How cal Rawley played was a fluke. H Maybe even
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 3: parts of the rotation potentially was a fluke. The bullpen
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 3: what road one hundred percent. I mean he's been terrible.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 3: You know, I heard you know, Sarah's on the air
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 3: with you yesterday talking about the strikeout ratio, you know,
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: home versus road. And I mean, he's got to start
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 3: tomorrow against the Rangers in Texas until he's been terrible
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 3: on the road.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: Here's what's happening. Bryce Miller is gonna get lit up tonight.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: Brian was going to spin a two hitter tomorrow on
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: the road. And so I mean, you got it minimum
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: split this series.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 3: So I.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: Like, I like the interviewing of you in this in
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: this segment for this reason, because you've had a couple
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: of good segments this week.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 3: I will listen.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: This won't happen again next week. But let's take advantage.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 3: We should just replay him.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: Let's just take advantage while we can't. So Scott Boris
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: comes on you guys. Both you and Dick mentioned afterwards,
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: A there's gonna be a lockout b And I think
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: this is the part that kind of flew into the
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: radar from what or what what he said about a
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: rose rain when you asked him, do you get the
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: impression that he's going to be really hard to resign
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: because he.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 3: Knows how desperate the M's are for a right handed bat.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, So so that that said, the Texas Rangers beat
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: guy comes on with Greg Bell and says, if they
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: lose this series, they're full on selling because they don't
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: believe they can do much this year.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 3: Rangers, Okay, gotcha.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: If the Mariners were to, worst case scenario get swept, yeah, yeah,
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: and you're all of a sudden four and a half
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: out right going to La right, and you're a week
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 2: away from the trade deadline, right, are you thinking about
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: moving Randy.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 3: Potentially? Yeah, I mean I think they would have to
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 3: be I mean, that's the worst case scenari to be
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 3: probably five or six games out of the wild Card
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 3: before I will right now the two in that right, Yeah,
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 3: they'd have to be probably five or six out. I mean, look,
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 3: there's a chance that they could deal somebody off their
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 3: twenty six man anyway to get the offense that they're
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 3: looking for right now, Hancock and Kirby and those guys.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 3: And if that, if that player is under contract for
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 3: next year, then it really shouldn't matter, right, you know,
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 3: where you are in the standings, like the Mason Miller
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 3: thing shouldn't matter at all. He's signed through twenty thirty. Yeah.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you can get Mason Miller for prospects,
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 3: your leverage arm is now, Munyos. Go get him, Go
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 3: get him. And if you if you happen to make
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 3: the playoffs, now great. But if you don't, then you
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 3: got him for you know, three more years. I love
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 3: me some Mason Miller, but and help your offense. No,
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 3: he doesn't. But the bullpens shorten arm mean, they should
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 3: put a steel on the bullpen right now and just
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: say the hell with it, Ago, go back to a
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 3: five man rotation. I've been saying that forever. So I
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 3: think you deal prospects for offense. You got plenty of them.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 3: Jerry Depoto has earned the benefit of the doubt that
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 3: he can replenish the minor DAGs system. Why would you
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 3: goof around with a guy, I mean, you're you're robbing
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 3: Peter to pay Paul at that point, why not just
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 3: pay Paul and not rob Peter?
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: Right, honestly, name your apostles, all right, well done, especially
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: coming from you. All right, man, we all get it exactly.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 3: Jesus Jesus was at jew By the way, I've heard
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 3: that right, Muger, You're not number two to one here, pal,
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 3: I gotta get out of Look at that big thing,
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 3: that big jew thro in thew's that is amazing. You
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 3: should have seen me when I was junior high.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: I've seen you show. All right, listen, it's been well established,
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: great shows this week. Yes, how do you will be terrible?
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: So today he's going to be Terrible's show looks like that.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 3: Well, we have a bracket today at four o'clock on
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 3: the radio show Seattle Trade of All Time, So you
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 3: tell me, just just real quick. I went through it
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 3: with him, Mark Langston for Randy Johnson trade versus the
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 3: Darren Bragg for Moyer trade. Which would you which one? Randy? Okay?
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 3: Fred Young? The Fred Young things interesting. He went to Indianapolis.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 3: They gave him a bunch of picks and they turned
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 3: those picks into Courtest Kennedy. It's going against Lenny Wilkins
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 3: to the Hawks. Excuse me, Walt Hazzard to the Hawks
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 3: for Lenny Wilkins. Lenny in nineteen sixty. He has never
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 3: done anything, Okay. Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson to Denver versus
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 3: Matt Hasselback for a third rounder. Evin Witherspoony went a
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl, okay, and then Steve Largent for an eighth
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 3: round pick from the Oilers versus Marshawn Lynch for a
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 3: fourth roun. You don't win a Super Bowl without Marshawn. Okay,
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 3: there you go, all right, game over. So you like Marshawn,
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 3: you like Russell, you like Lenny, and you like Randy.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 3: Yes in the in the first four, yes, all right,
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 3: we'll see what happens, see what shakes out. And then
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 3: humel enjoins it five. And then Peter thomas Awa you
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 3: know that name. He's the Seattle World Cup. He's also
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 3: part owner of the Sounders, and we want to ask
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 3: him if they're going to make a push for Grass
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 3: after what we saw in the World Cup. And Rhea
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 3: Hughes that's her middle name, her first name is Daya
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 3: will join us on the air at three point thirty. God,
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 3: I love sophomore humor.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 3: By the way, I was sitting here the other day
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 3: in the studio and I will tell you what happened.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 3: It was the grossest thing I've ever seen in my life.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 3: We went to a break and Dick Vane is standing
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 3: in front of the studio and the door is closed
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 3: in here. We're in a commercial break, and he lets
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 3: one fly right in the studio. I mean, it's like
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 3: I can't get to see for the mild mannered and
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 3: marginally objectionable the Inverness. This is paddle day, saying so
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 3: long everyone,