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Iridology For Cats with Poppy Phillips · Back In The Closet - Two Crazy Cat Ladies

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  podcast. With wine, always with wine.
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  I'm Jay. I'm Adrian and together we are
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  there's two crazy cat. Ladies, I'm.
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  Gonna. Cut.
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  You, I think I just. Peed.
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  Buckle up. We're back in the closet.
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  Welcome to another episode of Back in the Closet with the 2
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  Crazy Cat Ladies. Guys, this whole month is full
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  of awesome stuff and today we are super excited.
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  We are bringing to you, or actually our guest today is
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  bringing to you and us, knowledge that you probably
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  never. Heard of before?
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  You might say that it's very eye opening there you.
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  Go. There you go.
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  Well, this has been basically years in the making because it
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  has been a long time that we have known and been fangirls of
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  our beautiful guest, Poppy Phillips and we have wanted to
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  learn more for so long. And it's just it's finally
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  happening right now and. Today we're going to learn about
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  iridology, guys. Iridology when it comes to our
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  kitties specifically. So, so excited.
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  Poppy, thank you so much for joining us today.
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  Oh my gosh, it's so much fun being here.
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  Normally you guys are on my platform, so finally I got to be
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  on yours. And I feel like the more we
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  learn about iridology, the better equipped we are for cats,
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  because cats are really different than dogs and horses.
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  So everybody wants to throw them in the same category as dogs,
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  and they're just not. They're in their own category.
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  They. Are I love that.
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  So we're gonna focus on cats today.
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  Yes, thank you. Thank.
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  You. Thank you.
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  I love all these puns. OK, so for anyone that doesn't
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  already know you know a bit about your work and how you came
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  to be doing this incredible eye opening work, could you share a
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  short intro? So ironically, I was going to
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  animal naturopathic school and they offered animal ironology as
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  a side like course credential course.
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  And I was like, that is a bunch of bull.
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  And so I just thought it was like woo woo stuff.
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  And I was doing a lot of work in Los Angeles and I literally took
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  the class for total clickbait stuff.
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  And halfway through the class I was blown away.
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  And I'm like, why isn't more people doing this?
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  And it just sent me down this whole huge Rd. of discovery.
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  I have an online membership with some veterinarians and we've
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  done cases and tracked illnesses and recoveries and cancer and
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  it's just been insane. Well I I feel so blessed to be
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  kind of the keeper of the irises.
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  Oh, that's the keeper of the irises that you are.
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  I love that I can. Could you explain to everyone,
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  all of us beautiful cat people out here, what iridology is?
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  Iridology is actually the exploration of the colored part
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  of the eye. So it's very superficial.
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  We're not looking deep into the eye like the retina.
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  We're just looking at all this little pigmented marks.
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  So when you look, who doesn't look in their cat's eye?
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  And their cat's eye should be like bright and glistening and
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  shiny and light. And cats shouldn't have dark
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  eyes, you guys. So if you see a dark eyed cat,
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  you need to start working, yeah? OK, so let's share a little bit
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  about what does that mean, right?
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  Like, so our cats are supposed to have, we call them glow
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  balls, right? They have these.
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  They're just striking. I posted a picture of Friday not
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  long ago, our cat, our black cat Friday and her, they're just
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  glow balls, right? Beautiful what?
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  What kinds of things can you see from looking?
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  You can see so much it's almost overwhelming.
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  So systemic toxicity, systemic inflammation, GI tract distress,
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  Constipation. You can see liver like detox,
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  organ congestion, low circulation, maybe even some
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  brain issues and endocrine disruptions.
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  Like what can't you see? Chiropractic needs, neurologic
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  concerns. Like it just goes on and on.
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  Yeah, it's almost like a cheap MRI in a way.
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  MRI do. You.
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  So this is like, do you happen to know the, the like history of
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  iridology? Like how far does this go back,
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  'cause this kind of this kind of like medicine, if you will, for
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  diagnosis seems to be along the lines of other things in
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  holistic health where like back in the day, this is how you
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  figured things out until big pharma came around with all the
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  machines and and and stuff is that.
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  Yeah, it totally was something used in Egyptian, Mayan,
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  Chinese, Ayurvedic. We got a home.
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  Is that on my side? I think so.
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  That's OK. It just.
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  Happened there. You have a snake.
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  And so Egyptian, Chinese, Mayan, Ayurvedic practices all looked
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  at the iris. Even the Bible talks about the
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  colored of people's eyes. If their eyes are dark, they're
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  they have something dark within them.
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  And if their eyes are bright, they have something bright
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  within them. Like it was common knowledge.
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  Yeah. And so like you said, modern
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  medicine is kind of vilified that ancient wisdom.
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  And I'm bringing the ancient wisdom back with scientific
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  studies. And we actually do irises.
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  We we partner with necropsy teams in horses and we shoot
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  their irises, we assess them and then they are already going to
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  be euthanized. So they get necropsy and we
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  compare our findings more like 80% accurate.
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  Wow. That's huge, that.
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  Is incredible. So it's kind of like, I mean, so
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  this is one of those things where, you know, I don't want to
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  cause let me back it up. I don't want it to be something
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  that scares all of us, right? Like we look in their eyes and
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  it's oh, oh, Oh no, what does that mean 'cause we don't know
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  how to read our cat's eyes, right?
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  I do know and right, but So what kind?
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  What does that when, when you look at a cat's eyes or if
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  someone is in one of your courses or someone sends you
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  their cat's eyes and asks for basically a consultation, what
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  does that look like? What are you looking for?
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  So when people send me eyes a, they have to be readable, so
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  they have to be like full front and cropped type.
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  But cats are so much easier than dogs.
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  Dogs are so brown and so cat people have a real advantage to
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  iridology because they're beautiful, bright eyes and you
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  don't have to be that talented to shoot eyes.
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  What you're looking for is any sort of pigment mark along the
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  iris. And it's, it's so crazy because
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  the iris is like a computer interface of the internal
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  structure, structure of the body.
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  So here's your cat gauging the outside world and making all
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  these shifts and the pupils changing, but it's also
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  reflecting the inside homeostasis of the body.
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  And so it you'll see all these little pigment Marks.
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  And Adrian, you were talking about how your older cat, as he
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  got older, had more marks in his eye.
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  And the vet said, well, that's normal.
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  Well, no, they're actually indicator marks.
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  They're like little dashboard lights saying hello, we need
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  attention in certain quadrants of the body.
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  So it's like head, hind leg and everything in between.
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  No kidding. Because let's talk about that
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  for a second. Because and I and I actually
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  brought a few pictures. I'm curious.
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  I know those listening on the podcast, I won't be able to see
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  them, but we'll describe them as best we can where we did see a
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  visible change in with our Pooh bear and we did ask for a
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  veterinarian about it. We're like, what, what is all
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  this? And they said, well, it's very
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  normal for cats to get freckles. They called them freckles in
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  their eyes. What?
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  So that is you're saying that that is not normal.
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  That is something. Well, they're indicators.
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  They're, they're warning lights, they're pink flags maybe if
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  you're not. So cats never show you they're
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  sick, right until they're really, really sick and then
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  then you're playing catch up. You're like in a really frantic,
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  unhealthy position. So iridology gives you insight
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  to be proactive instead of reactive.
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  So when you're seeing these pigment marks show up, they're
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  asking for help in those systems of the body.
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  And you could just implement like a liver cleanse or a whole
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  system detox or like your cat grass commercial, you could add
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  more cat grass. So you could just make
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  adjustments and you can actually track your protocol.
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  So if you're feeding your cat a certain diet and their eyes are
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  going dark, it's it's congesting the system and causing systemic
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  toxicity. So we've had cats that we have.
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  I had a student post photos of an A cat that was in bad shape
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  and was going to be euthanized like within the next day.
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  And her cats were, I were so dull and flat and dense looking
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  like there was no life to them. It was really interesting to
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  see. Wow.
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  The amount of stuff that you can see is what's is what is like
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  mind blowing to me is that the is that one that this is even
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  out there and not well known, right?
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  Like this is something that I wish they taught in vet school,
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  right? So that I'm, I'm, I'm sure a lot
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  of vets would wish that they knew, right?
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  So that they, they could skip a lot of the extra testing and
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  work and guesswork even, and, and be able to, you know, even
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  if they did still have blood tests and whatnot, they could
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  then read the eyes and say, OK, this is, this is for sure what
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  it's got to be because this tells me this and then the eyes
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  tell me this as well. So, you know, like you would
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  think that it like at some point it would be part of, you know,
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  schooling for veterinarians to be able to, to be able to better
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  diagnose well. And maybe let's go ahead.
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  There is a vet that does this in Brazil, Doctor Claudia Costa,
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  and it's part of her practice is animal auridology.
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  She learned, I learned from Mercedes Colburn who was taught
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  by Bernard Jensen and she learned from a gentleman that
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  was also taught by Bernard Jensen.
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  So we, I actually get to spend the week with her next week.
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  And so she's written a book in Portuguese for animal iridology
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  and veterinarian practice. And I'm like, are you going to
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  translate that? And she's like, I have no desire
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  to translate that. I'm like, yeah, yeah, there's
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  got. To be a, there's got to be an
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  online translator that can do. That for us.
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  Maybe now would be a good time to to show you our Pooh bear.
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  And I want to try to describe the picture as best as possible.
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  So Pooh barking to us in 2000 16 this picture and of course we
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  weren't trying to take. We didn't even have really good
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  camera. 2013. 2013 yeah, 2013 Wow.
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  Oh, that explains why I don't have.
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  OK, H, right. No, that's that explains it
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  because I switched phones and so I don't have any photos before
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  that. But this picture is from 2019.
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  I'm going to pull it up. And this is not a picture.
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  And in a minute, I'm going to have you explain to all of us
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  how we can take pictures of our cat's eyes.
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  The best way to do that. But in this picture is, is just
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  a kind of a zoomed in picture of his little eyes and his
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  beautiful nose, freckled nose. And in his eyes, you can see a
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  couple of little specks in both eyes.
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  Not I, you know, they're, they're different in one eye
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  than they are in the other. But this was taken in 2019.
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  He ended up passing in in 20/23/2023.
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  This is January of 2019. Are you able to see anything in
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  this picture? Yeah.
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  So you do have some rusty colored marks in there.
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  Now we're going down this road of studying rust colored marks.
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  And I'm not 100% sure right now, but in human iridology it, it is
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  a precursor to diabetes. So anything kind of this rust
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  colored, if you guys see at if you cut the iris into a clock,
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  so the right iris 12:00, six o'clock 3:00 and 9:00, you have
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  this whole shading in the 9:00 area that has like these little
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  speckles through there. And that's kind of in the lung
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  and thorax and rib cage and bronchial.
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  So there's some sort of chest issue happening in there.
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  And so they aren't huge marks, they're kind of rusty colored
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  marks. I would, if I saw this, I would
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  ask like, was your cat sneezing, breathing funny?
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  Was there any respiratory issues, any allergies, things
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  like that? But because they're rusty
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  colored, they could be any color from white to black and
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  everything in between. So yeah, the color, the texture,
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  the size and the shape all give me information about what's
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  going on. So yours are a little streak
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  here instead of rounder. So streaker lines are a little
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  more positive in my mind because that just means there's a
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  relational mark between the lung, the thorax, the ribs, the
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  chest, and then the bronchial. You also have some streaks
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  coming off the ascending and transcending colon.
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  So there might have been some Constipation at the time because
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  it looks like it's a building in the small intestine also, which
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  is on the right side of the right iris.
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  And so and a little bit of stress going on and a little
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  heightened stomach lining concern.
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  Wow. So it might worth pointing out,
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  so Cooper had an autoimmune disease, autoimmune issues, and
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  his health was a big challenge for us.
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  He was one of our greatest teachers, but this is a good
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  example of, you know, starting to notice some of these little
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  colorations in his eyes and, and asking a veterinarian about it
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  and being like, no, it was not a thing.
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  So this picture was January of 2019 and this next picture, Pooh
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  Bear died on Winnie the Pooh Day in January 18th, 2023.
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  And this picture was taken on OH.
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  Oh my gosh, that's so sad. You guys, if you see eyes like
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  this, you need you need to go see your vet.
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  So that is a lot of systemic toxicity, a lot of stress.
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  This cat was definitely in stress condition.
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  So you guys, when cat eyes should always be bright and
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  pretty and when you see them get dull and dark like this, this is
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  a medical emergency. Absolutely.
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  So it's an internal reflection or it could actually be an
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  ocular Melanoma, but most your vets would be like, no, that's
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  not an ocular Melanoma. So you do want to rule that out
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  when you're seeing marks like that.
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  I'm not an A vet and I'm not an ophthalmologist, and I have
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  caught marks on the iris that I go like, go to your vet, go to
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  your bat now type of thing. Yeah.
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  Oh my gosh. For people on listening on the
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  podcast, I just want to kind of describe.
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  They went from a few specs in his eye to a lot of it looks
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  like a like almost dark eyes with with tons of specs around
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  his pupils. He's almost like lions and
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  stuff. And I remember we had him into
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  the vet, I believe it was in November before the January that
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  he passed and he to us, he was in great shape compared to how,
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  you know, lots of the ups and downs that we had had.
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  But this is certainly not something that the vet was at
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  all concerned about. Right when we asked them about
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  like his eyes are starting to get like a lot of freckles.
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  What is this something we should be concerned about?
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  They said no, no, no, it's it's very totally normal for cats to
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  get specs as they as they age. So that's not that's not true.
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  So you you see that as toxicity in the body is that?
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  So all your detox pathways are like shutting down, there's
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  toxins building up, like the bodies losing the game when you
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  see that stuff. Wow.
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  Yeah. What we to talk to you?
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  I know. Well, you know, I wasn't that
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  advanced. Like, I've really, you know, it
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  was a class in 2016 and I just went down the road of dogs and
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  horses, but I really didn't start pouring into cats that
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  much. People weren't sending me cat
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  eyes. And so I've made a really big
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  effort in studying cat anatomy and how the marks are different
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  than dogs. So yeah, I think that just being
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  here now is the right place at the right time for me because
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  I've really noticed how different it is.
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  And everybody just so if most people in the past, if they
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  wanted their dogs and cats eyes assessed, they used a human
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  iridologist that doesn't know anything about animals and and
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  they just apply the human eye grid.
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  Well, quadrupeds are really different than bipeds and our GI
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  tracks very different than theirs.
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  So. So it can't, it can't be a clean
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  crossover, right? Wow, wow, and.
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  Are there so just to give everybody hope because I know
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  everybody right now is looking at their cat's eyes and they're.
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  Seeing a. They're seeing a spot, they're
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  seeing specs, they're seeing several specs.
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  They're like, Oh no, Oh no, Oh no, it it's not right now,
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  unless you're in Brazil at this one, this one vet, it's not
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  something that you can necessarily take to your vet.
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  So what would be the steps that you would recommend if somebody
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  has been seeing, they're watching this or listening to
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  this and they have been seeing changes in their cat's eyes and
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  they've maybe been worried about it, but maybe their vet said the
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  same that our vet said and said it's no big deal, nothing to
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  worry about. How?
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  What steps would you recommend that they take in order to
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  better better diagnose or better understand?
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  Or or. Ask like is there test?
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  Can you do it right? Like what?
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  So you can't, by law, I cannot diagnose with diroidology.
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  Maybe Doctor Claudia Costa can, but I can't.
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  I can help point you guys in the right direction.
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  So I could be like, oh, there's a gallbladder, pancreas, liver
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  combo going on. Maybe change diet, maybe go get
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  blood work. Like I can make suggestions.
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  And I do teach this and I have a clinical, I have a mini course
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  and a clinical course. So I'm training people to do
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  this as a profession. And so it's, it's been really
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  amazing because my morning course is mostly UK students and
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  they're mostly cat owners and cat professionals.
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  So will you see so many cat irises in the mornings?
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  I'm like, look at all these cats and so we have some really cool
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  conversations about cats. We're always looking for cat
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  irises for the course. So if people can't get enough
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  irises for their case studies, we open out up the platform for
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  people to submit irises for case studies.
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  So if people want free assessments, send them my way
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  and I'll put them in the group and use them for their final
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  exam. Awesome link is in the
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  description here guys for that. Wow well, and let's get let's
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  get to the the nitty gritty then.
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  You know these pictures. I know that that was a very
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  extreme, very extreme, right? We we it was a big change for us
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  at the time too. Noticing it for people that want
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  to be able to take a good picture and be able to send it
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  to you, What are the what's the what's the best way to actually
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  take a picture of your cat's eyes?
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  So your cell phone's plenty good enough.
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  And that is one of the reasons why I'm so excited about
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  ironology publicly like this, because in the past, Mercedes
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  would pack all her stuff up and go to your house.
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  There wasn't cell phones back in the day.
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  So your cell phone's plenty good enough.
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  Remember to clean the lens because there's nothing worse
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  than a dirty lens and it limits your crispness of your view if
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  you can't turn your flash on so and video.
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  So when they move their eyes around, you get multiple angles
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  because you might have a reflection off your windows or
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  your own self. And so when you have multiple
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  angles, you're like, what's that?
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  And they're like, oh, that's my shirt, you know, So yeah, it
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  happens. So you get some wonky photos,
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  but make sure they're looking straight, not on the side.
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  And cat eyes. You want to straighten them this
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  way as much as possible. And then whoever assess your
• 23:45
  eyes, whether it's myself or yourself or a student, you want
• 23:50
  the point of the pupil to go up and down.
• 23:55
  But we adjust that because if you don't, if you don't get your
• 23:58
  12:00 and 6:00 right, your whole reading will be off.
• 24:04
  Yeah. So you have to get your bearings
• 24:06
  on that. Gotcha gotcha.
• 24:08
  So you would suggest to do a video so as they move their eyes
• 24:11
  around and then go back and screenshot that video to sit to
• 24:14
  get make the pictures? Yeah, and I have a tutorial.
• 24:18
  You guys have the link and you guys just click the link and you
• 24:22
  can download some images. I do have a horse.
• 24:25
  How to which horses have eyes on the side?
• 24:29
  Predators have eyes in the front.
• 24:31
  Pray have eyes on the side, so shoot in the front.
• 24:36
  Yeah, I get a lot of side eyes from animal, from companion
• 24:41
  animals. After watching that video, I'm
• 24:42
  like, oh, it's that horse video everybody's watching.
• 24:45
  Yeah. I love this.
• 24:48
  So is this something 'cause I'm thinking for me now, knowing
• 24:52
  more about this, and especially after going through what we went
• 24:56
  through with our Pooh Bear, I, I kind of feel like is it a good
• 25:01
  idea for cat parents to try to get a good picture of their
• 25:04
  cat's eyes like every month so that we can kind of keep a
• 25:10
  journal, Keep a journal of, you know, because it is kind of
• 25:13
  like, was that there before? I don't know if that was there
• 25:15
  before, you know. Yeah, I think it's really
• 25:19
  important whether you're a dog owner or a cat owner, to just
• 25:23
  start documenting your animal's eyes, whether it's for iridology
• 25:27
  or just tracking for general health.
• 25:31
  Because I've caught corneal ulcers sent to me and I've even
• 25:36
  had my own bed. I'm like, that dog has a corneal
• 25:39
  ulcer and she's like, you can't see that without a stain.
• 25:42
  I'm like, yes, you can see. And she's like, oh, you can't.
• 25:45
  So you can catch all sorts of eye issues.
• 25:49
  I've had a owner send me stuff. I had one client send me irises
• 25:55
  and it was Anesiscoria, which is a big pupil and a little pupil.
• 26:00
  And I was like, is your cat neurologic?
• 26:03
  And she goes, my cat's never been neuro.
• 26:06
  And she got a little agitated with me and I was like, well,
• 26:10
  you probably should take your cat to the vet.
• 26:12
  And she's like, whatever. Well, in two months that cat
• 26:16
  went neuro and he had to be euthanized.
• 26:19
  And we could have been ahead of that.
• 26:21
  Now I don't know what the vets would have done for that because
• 26:26
  there was no real symptoms, but the anesthescoria was there and
• 26:31
  that's a vet thing. So right now.
• 26:35
  Yeah, So I mean, that's, that's, I mean, that's very interesting,
• 26:39
  but it's also very common, right?
• 26:41
  Because because vets treat symptoms, that's what that's
• 26:44
  what the medical field, that's what their doctors do too,
• 26:46
  right? They, they're not necessarily
• 26:48
  the proactive, but to have something like this that can be
• 26:51
  proactive, that we can see something before it takes place
• 26:56
  is. Yeah.
• 26:59
  And knowing like in holistic health, like there's so many
• 27:01
  things that we can do if we see something, even if it's like,
• 27:05
  well, I don't know for sure, but, you know, this is what this
• 27:09
  is what ironology tells me. But you know, my doctor says
• 27:13
  that it's just BS, right? Like then then you can do
• 27:18
  things. There are there are things that
• 27:19
  we can do detoxes, supplements, things that are completely safe
• 27:23
  that you're not like drugging your cat up with something that
• 27:27
  you know may or may not help, but things that you can do
• 27:30
  proactively to and then watch those eyes, right?
• 27:34
  You see these things reverse as they treat.
• 27:36
  Do you have you? Yeah, now that eyes start
• 27:39
  lightning. So one of my favorite things is
• 27:41
  partnering irobiology with homeopathy because you could
• 27:45
  actually assess the eye and find your constitutional remedy and
• 27:50
  then you get the constitutional remedy in the eye totally
• 27:52
  changes. What?
• 27:55
  And you can track the progression or the regression
• 27:59
  like you just tracked Pooh bears irises to a total regression.
• 28:05
  Yeah, I wish I knew. I I wish I was in your world
• 28:09
  more, but I don't know if I had the skill back then.
• 28:15
  Well, in back to poop bear for a second.
• 28:17
  I mean, you took one one look at that picture from the week
• 28:21
  before he passed and you said that's an emergency vet visit.
• 28:26
  And I really, it is never our intention to make people
• 28:30
  fearful. I want people to feel empowered.
• 28:32
  I wish that we could have said in November when we were asking
• 28:37
  about his eyes, like no, please, you know, let's do a test or
• 28:40
  something, like something is his eyes are changing.
• 28:44
  Let's do something. You know, they said he's in
• 28:46
  great shape. You're he's he's doing
• 28:48
  fantastic. And he did seem he was eating
• 28:51
  great. He was playful.
• 28:52
  He wasn't having big breakouts. He we used to have terrible
• 28:55
  breakouts of just big flare ups and bleeding from his I and
• 29:01
  Melton just awful. He was doing he was doing great.
• 29:06
  Are there things that we as got parents without knowing a lot
• 29:09
  about this, if we were to see could be more proactive about
• 29:14
  and say yeah? Are there this?
• 29:16
  Is a vet visit? This is a vet visit, Yeah.
• 29:19
  What kind of tips? Practical tips.
• 29:22
  So any, any large mark, you guys, any black large marks is
• 29:29
  probably degenerative, something degenerative.
• 29:33
  And one of my students the first clinical course day that I teach
• 29:41
  is systemic inflammation. And all these students like post
• 29:45
  their, their lab, you know, their cases and 1 gal does for
• 29:50
  cat eyes. And these eyes are dark, cold.
• 29:54
  And she goes, this is the breed ideal.
• 29:56
  And I'm like, Nah, I think you're going to have to rethink
• 29:59
  that breed ideal. This is a toxic cat.
• 30:02
  And she was like, no, no, this cat's fine.
• 30:05
  This is what they're supposed to look like.
• 30:07
  And then as we're going along, I'm like, I really think you
• 30:10
  need to be proactive about this. By the end of the course, the
• 30:14
  cat was diagnosed with an oral Melanoma.
• 30:16
  And then we had watched the the benefit and then the decline and
• 30:22
  then the diagnosis and it had a little black spot in kind of
• 30:28
  that mouth region. Yeah.
• 30:33
  Wow. So you would say like tip, like
• 30:36
  biggest tip is if you see any dark lines in your cat's or
• 30:42
  spots in your cat's eyes. So spots, yeah, spots tend to be
• 30:48
  like an isolated incident or like your stripes were systemic.
• 30:54
  So that cat was. Yeah.
• 30:56
  Does that make sense? Like when you think about your
• 30:58
  cat's whole system was failing because all those stripes were
• 31:02
  coming through the whole iris. But if you just have a mark or a
• 31:07
  glob, like I've seen a cat with a lung tumor, somebody threw
• 31:12
  their cat irises up, said my cat died of lung cancer in 9:00 or
• 31:17
  like 9915. There was this huge lung marker
• 31:24
  and it was very round. Usually the cancer marks, tumor
• 31:28
  based cancers, let me correct that.
• 31:30
  So tumor based cancers can be very dark and circular where
• 31:35
  lipomas will be translucent. It's not always the case, but
• 31:41
  this is what we're tracking and researching.
• 31:44
  So I'm on. I'm always like rethinking,
• 31:47
  restructuring, trying to find patterns and relationships
• 31:51
  between all these things. Well, OK, so let's talk about
• 31:55
  just a just real quick, a few of the things that, you know, us
• 31:59
  cat parents are just basically dread, right?
• 32:01
  Like the the degenerative diseases that so many cats or
• 32:06
  even acute common ailments that that cats deal with like
• 32:12
  FELVFIV, right feeling leukemia virus and and and FIV, the
• 32:20
  kidney disease, diabetes, hyperthyroidism are these things
• 32:28
  that you can see in the eyes prior.
• 32:33
  So we see so many endocrine markers because so many cats are
• 32:37
  spayed and neutered. So once you de sex them, the
• 32:41
  other organs had to have to start working harder to make up
• 32:45
  for that, right? And so you constantly see a
• 32:49
  thyroid mark or a kidney in a bladder mark and you know, you
• 32:53
  can heads up that or you can track that if you know your cat
• 32:57
  already has that. Now, the one thing that I have
• 33:00
  to like warn you guys for is some medications block those
• 33:03
  marks so it can give you a false sense of security.
• 33:07
  So some pain meds, it's all about nerve endings and it's
• 33:11
  about that, the peripheral nerves going through the spinal
• 33:14
  cord, marking on the brain. And if it's intense enough or if
• 33:19
  it's critical enough, it marks on the iris.
• 33:22
  And so if you use a numbing agent that's going to numb the
• 33:27
  nervous system, it's not going to mark.
• 33:31
  You have to be careful about that.
• 33:33
  We've seen some very clean eyes, and when somebody sends me an
• 33:38
  eye that's super, pretty, super clean, like perfect.
• 33:42
  I'll always ask, is your cat on medication?
• 33:45
  They're like, huh, How'd you know?
• 33:47
  I'm like, it looks too good. Yeah, yeah.
• 33:52
  So that's how those, and it's interesting because I've seen a
• 33:55
  dog on Prozac and his irises, the nervous system was still so
• 34:01
  jacked up. So it was deadening the
• 34:04
  reaction, but it wasn't healing the nervous system.
• 34:09
  Right. Yeah, that is insightful.
• 34:13
  Yeah. Wow.
• 34:16
  Isn't that amazing? That is amazing.
• 34:19
  We say the eyes don't lie. Yeah.
• 34:23
  Yeah. I mean, this has been, this has
• 34:26
  been a topic I've really wanted to explore for so long because
• 34:30
  it it and mainly because of Pooh Bear.
• 34:33
  I mean, there were so many changes that we saw.
• 34:37
  In his eyes, in his. Eyes while we had.
• 34:39
  And we have so many people like who I have somebody right now
• 34:42
  that just that that asked me by right now, I mean it was
• 34:44
  probably a month ago, but they but they asked me do these My
• 34:48
  cat has a spot in her eye. I've never seen it.
• 34:51
  It looks like a freckle. Is that something I should worry
• 34:54
  about? And I'm like, I don't, I don't
• 34:57
  know, you know, like, here's Poppy's information.
• 35:01
  Like I'm sending my way and hopefully it's not a big deal.
• 35:05
  And if it's like a little translucent, it's better than
• 35:08
  opaque. Translucent means something's
• 35:11
  coming or going, so it's in transit.
• 35:15
  And so when it's opaque, it's it's something that you need to
• 35:19
  pay attention to. Wow, wow, Poppy.
• 35:23
  You're amazing guys. All of these links to reach out,
• 35:29
  to get information, to figure out how to take the picture of
• 35:32
  your cat's eyes are in the description here, no matter
• 35:36
  where you're, where you're listening from or watching from.
• 35:39
  So this, I mean, I just feel like you're such a resource.
• 35:42
  I just feel like it's your amazing resource for, for cat
• 35:46
  parents because we, we need, we need this like we need this more
• 35:50
  than I think any other pet parent.
• 35:52
  I know. It's.
• 35:53
  So good for cats and they, they're set up for it.
• 35:57
  They're totally set up for it. Now, I'm not the, the guru of
• 36:01
  cat Wellness. I actually send so many people
• 36:04
  to your website. I'm like, just go to them.
• 36:07
  So I'm like, this is what I'm seeing.
• 36:10
  I can like advise on some homeopathic remedies and ozone
• 36:14
  and some other things but go to theirs.
• 36:19
  I love that. I mean, but we work together
• 36:20
  that way. That's beautiful about.
• 36:22
  This community correct and finding resources like you where
• 36:26
  we can help people. Because we we can't read the
• 36:31
  eye, but we could help you if we know what's going on, right?
• 36:34
  So. Yeah.
• 36:35
  You guys, you guys hook them up for the IRS issue that we're
• 36:40
  seeing, Yeah. What is, what is, I mean kind of
• 36:44
  as a as a summation, what is what is it that you wish every
• 36:48
  cat parent understood about their cat's eyes as it relates
• 36:51
  to their cat's health? It's talking, it's talking
• 36:55
  constantly, it's telling you how they feel internally because
• 36:59
  your cat's not going to show you but the eye will.
• 37:04
  It is communicating non-stop and it does have meaning.
• 37:09
  And even though your vets don't know what it means, hyroidology
• 37:13
  really does know what it means. It's pretty amazing.
• 37:16
  Oh my, it's so fun to teach this because to see the students
• 37:20
  evolve. And I had a client, a student
• 37:23
  the other day doing an assessment.
• 37:26
  It was not, it was a painful assessment.
• 37:30
  She was scared to present it to the owner, but she worked her
• 37:36
  courage up. And when she presented all of it
• 37:40
  to the owner, the owner was like, you saw that through the
• 37:42
  eye. And she's like, well, yeah.
• 37:45
  And she's very timid about it. And the owner was like, it's
• 37:49
  absolutely correct. This dog's going through all of
• 37:51
  that. Oh wow.
• 37:55
  Yeah. And so she came back the next
• 37:58
  week and went, Oh my gosh, you guys, it was accurate.
• 38:01
  How could it be that's accurate? Like they're they're invested in
• 38:04
  this course as a career, but to see cases unfold and have people
• 38:11
  verify that it's accurate or we have like blood work and
• 38:15
  diagnostics. We don't do necropsies on dogs
• 38:18
  and cats, but like in your cat case, that helps us so much.
• 38:24
  And all of us are advancing ironology off just observational
• 38:29
  cases and diagnostics. Yeah.
• 38:33
  Wow, this is incredible. Papi, you're awesome I am.
• 38:37
  I'm just, I am just so grateful I'm so grateful for the work
• 38:40
  that you do I'm so grateful that our paths have aligned.
• 38:43
  I I'm so grateful that we know you.
• 38:45
  I, I'm so grateful that we we will be paying closer attention
• 38:49
  to our cat's eyes at all times and, and sending.
• 38:53
  Them over to you. Anytime we see a a see a change
• 38:56
  because because you know us, we want to be as proactive as
• 38:59
  possible and we're trying to build the longest living cats
• 39:02
  ever. Clear eyes.
• 39:05
  Clear eyes forever, ladies. Clear eyes forever.
• 39:08
  Yeah. You guys, I'm so happy to be
• 39:11
  here. I kept telling you guys, just
• 39:12
  wait. You have to see this.
• 39:14
  You have to see this. Yeah.
• 39:15
  It's really. Incredible and to have such a
• 39:17
  personal, you know, and maybe it is just kind of your intuition.
• 39:21
  I know there's probably some people here that kind of feel
• 39:22
  that too, where it's like, really, Are you sure
• 39:25
  everything's OK? Really, you know, not knowing.
• 39:28
  I mean, what a beautiful tool this is.
• 39:30
  And it's just an incredible eye opening eye episode.
• 39:36
  It's affordable you guys. So we'll see Marks.
• 39:39
  I'll be like, hey, just go get some blood work done on in
• 39:42
  regards to your gallbladder issue.
• 39:45
  And I've had I've had animals with mystery issues that the
• 39:49
  vets couldn't figure out. And they send me irises and I'm
• 39:52
  like, look over here and they're like, do scoping or some more
• 39:56
  extreme diagnostics. I had one, one client that said
• 40:00
  I've spent thousands and thousands of dollars and
• 40:03
  iridology was the only thing that was accurate.
• 40:07
  They pointed the vets all in the right direction.
• 40:10
  Wow. See, this is such a beautiful
• 40:13
  thing. Yes.
• 40:15
  Thank you, thank you for doing what you do.
• 40:17
  Thank you for thank you for being here.
• 40:19
  And, and thank you so much for for opening up the world of
• 40:22
  animals like letting us, letting us know that this is even an
• 40:26
  option. And, and thank you for being
• 40:30
  available for all of us, because you're going to get inundated
• 40:32
  now. Get that, get that student
• 40:37
  friend followers eyes to me and let's see what that's all about
• 40:41
  because I'd hate to let that sit.
• 40:44
  Thank you. We absolutely will.
• 40:46
  Thank you anyone that wants to follow along your journey.
• 40:48
  I know we've got the links down here for your website and I are
• 40:51
  you. Where else can they you and
• 40:53
  Poppy? Phillips, Poppy.
• 40:55
  Phillips Holistic Animal Insights is kind of my all
• 40:59
  animal business. I originally started off as an
• 41:03
  equine therapist, so Equine Alternatives was my mother
• 41:07
  company. It still is.
• 41:09
  So the website's Equine EQUINE Alt Hyphen HAI for holistic
• 41:16
  Animal insights.com. And that's just my business
• 41:20
  website. So if you guys want to book an
• 41:23
  appointment, I'm giving you guys a $10 off for watching this
• 41:27
  today. So.
• 41:30
  That's generous. That is generous.
• 41:32
  Thank you. Thank you so much.
• 41:34
  Awesome. We're all happening.
• 41:36
  Yeah, there you guys. And and without you it it takes
• 41:39
  the community. It does.
• 41:41
  It takes a village. Yeah, it.
• 41:43
  Is invaluable. Very grateful to you.
• 41:46
  Yes. Thank you so much.