Latest / Financial Survival Network / Safeguarding Assets in the Face of Economic Manipulation - Brian Bradley #6130
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's all the above, and it goes
- 0:01Speaker 1: into layers. Right at the end of the day, if
- 0:04Speaker 1: you're just starting out your greenhort investing or you don't
- 0:07Speaker 1: have much, that's where LLC's and insurance come into play.
- 0:10Speaker 1: You know, there's no point in building a taj mahal
- 0:13Speaker 1: before you're ready for a taj mahal. But we can
- 0:16Speaker 1: layer this stuff up so risky assets like you know,
- 0:18Speaker 1: easy one to think about is investment properties, right, real estate,
- 0:22Speaker 1: go directly into LLC, get some insurance on it. You're
- 0:25Speaker 1: gonna start growing, You're gonna start scaling.
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- 0:51Speaker 3: Ever, and welcome you are listening to and watching the
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- 1:00Speaker 1: Carrie Lutz.
- 1:01Speaker 3: Hey, you know, in this day and age, if you
- 1:05Speaker 3: have any assets, any wealth whatsoever, there are probably ten
- 1:09Speaker 3: people you don't even know about who are out to
- 1:11Speaker 3: try to grab them from you, grab your assets, take
- 1:15Speaker 3: your wealth and doing it fully legally through the legal system.
- 1:21Speaker 3: And Brian Bradley here, asset protection attorney, best selling author,
- 1:26Speaker 3: renowned educator in the legal and financial spheres. And well, Brian,
- 1:33Speaker 3: it's great to have you on here. So tell us
- 1:36Speaker 3: how big is the threat from all of these predators
- 1:40Speaker 3: out to take your money?
- 1:41Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, and thanks Carrie for having me on. And
- 1:44Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of fun and we
- 1:46Speaker 1: have a lot of important things to go over. And
- 1:48Speaker 1: I think like myth busting a lot of misconceptions, you know,
- 1:51Speaker 1: breaking down the different rules of trust and how these
- 1:54Speaker 1: can protect you or not. And you know my book
- 1:57Speaker 1: that you mentioned Bulber exposed, I wrotic because there never
- 1:59Speaker 1: was kind of that horn book on what is the
- 2:03Speaker 1: world of ask protection and the different layers and how
- 2:05Speaker 1: do we go about creating it? So I decided, you
- 2:07Speaker 1: know what, I might just ride it myself and you know,
- 2:11Speaker 1: use it as more than an educational method for individuals
- 2:14Speaker 1: to go through like what's a bunch of bs? What's not?
- 2:17Speaker 1: How to start small, how to grow and scale into it?
- 2:20Speaker 1: And kind of like what you were talking about, it
- 2:22Speaker 1: was like if we if we set the scene one
- 2:24Speaker 1: acid protection right has to be done before you're getting sued,
- 2:29Speaker 1: right Like, It's not like something we can just jump into, like,
- 2:31Speaker 1: oh my god, my house burned down. How do I
- 2:33Speaker 1: get insurance from my house? And now to cover it?
- 2:35Speaker 1: The world of ascid protection is exactly the same. You know,
- 2:38Speaker 1: if you're already getting sued, you're too far down the
- 2:40Speaker 1: rabbit hole. These are things that you have to think
- 2:42Speaker 1: about to set up beforehand for them to work. Otherwise
- 2:45Speaker 1: we're going to fall down the rabbit hole of fraud
- 2:47Speaker 1: and fraudulent transfer. And to answer your question, right know,
- 2:53Speaker 1: like what happened is we live in this Tooe happy
- 2:55Speaker 1: Nevada nirvana. And to put some context to it, you know,
- 2:59Speaker 1: the legal systems drastically changed over the past forty years.
- 3:03Speaker 1: It's no longer about justice, but it's about creating divide
- 3:07Speaker 1: and redistributing your wealth from the haves, which is you know,
- 3:10Speaker 1: you and your listeners or the have nots. You know,
- 3:12Speaker 1: it's basically I think the term is Robinhood economics. And
- 3:16Speaker 1: in my book I go over in depth the historical
- 3:18Speaker 1: big changes that led us to this. But to quickly
- 3:21Speaker 1: summarize the problem, over the past forty years, things that
- 3:25Speaker 1: just didn't happen in the past, or that weren't allowed
- 3:27Speaker 1: to happen in the past, like contingency fee lawyers or
- 3:30Speaker 1: law from advertising their commonplace. And this created a cultural
- 3:35Speaker 1: shift of a predatory legal system that is no longer
- 3:38Speaker 1: about justice, but it's now about profits. And our legal
- 3:41Speaker 1: system is now run by trial lawyers and special interest
- 3:44Speaker 1: groups who don't want to discourage lawsuits but rather increase
- 3:47Speaker 1: the size of a victim class. And then this is
- 3:50Speaker 1: just creating a society of victims. We basically legislated out
- 3:55Speaker 1: accountability and responsibility for our own actions, and this makes
- 3:59Speaker 1: loss suit it's an easy get rich scheme, you know,
- 4:02Speaker 1: for those who want to try to play what my
- 4:03Speaker 1: colleague used to call the lawsuit lottery. And it's a
- 4:07Speaker 1: sad truth. But while attorneys right may stoke that fire
- 4:11Speaker 1: that drives the American litigation engine, without the public's endless
- 4:15Speaker 1: appetite for suing each other, there really wouldn't be a
- 4:18Speaker 1: litigation crisis. And when we take a macro economic global
- 4:23Speaker 1: look at everything, the big picture really is that on
- 4:27Speaker 1: top of our destroyed legal import system, we have a
- 4:29Speaker 1: global financial system that is structurally deep rooted issues we
- 4:33Speaker 1: have you know, government backed fiat currencies that are in question,
- 4:36Speaker 1: and this includes the US dollar and a monetary policy
- 4:40Speaker 1: that's really plain and simple, right, it's in our face
- 4:42Speaker 1: inflate or die. And then we got governments looking at
- 4:45Speaker 1: deep and accessible pools of money and financing meaning you know,
- 4:48Speaker 1: your money, your assets, along with financial repression, monetary economic manipulation.
- 4:53Speaker 1: And so this is the world where we're living in
- 4:55Speaker 1: and we're investing in, and so it makes it really
- 4:58Speaker 1: hard to what do we do to actually protect and
- 5:00Speaker 1: keep our assets. And that's where modern day as to
- 5:03Speaker 1: protection comes into play, and you know, utilizing asset protection trust.
- 5:07Speaker 3: Well, like you said to Brian, the key is to
- 5:12Speaker 3: set up your financial fortress before you need it rather
- 5:16Speaker 3: than yeah yeah.
- 5:19Speaker 1: And there's a beautiful case on that point. Actually it's
- 5:22Speaker 1: a twenty ten case. It's called sec versolo. And here's
- 5:26Speaker 1: a situation because I get this call all the time,
- 5:28Speaker 1: you know, and even though I talk about this and
- 5:30Speaker 1: say if you're already in a lawsuit, please it's too late, right,
- 5:33Speaker 1: but people need to understand. So this case really breaks
- 5:36Speaker 1: down the importance of this of this point. So the
- 5:41Speaker 1: court here found that the husband, mister Solo, made a
- 5:43Speaker 1: fraudulent transfer after the sec judgment was entered against him.
- 5:47Speaker 1: So what he did was he assigned assets over to
- 5:50Speaker 1: his wife's trust to protect them after the judgment. Right,
- 5:53Speaker 1: So this is just no weal, this is just straight
- 5:55Speaker 1: up fraud. Yeah, how mister Solo was held in contempt
- 5:58Speaker 1: of court? You know, but there's a big butt here.
- 6:01Speaker 1: One hundred percent of his assets were actually able to
- 6:04Speaker 1: be protected. And I always use this case to demonstrate
- 6:06Speaker 1: two things. Was the power of really strong trust, which
- 6:10Speaker 1: we'll get into, you know, probably a little bit. But
- 6:13Speaker 1: what was horrible here is that he was held in
- 6:15Speaker 1: content of court. But why what did he do wrong?
- 6:18Speaker 1: The second point of this case goes to the timing
- 6:21Speaker 1: of setting up an asset protection plan. Right, He transferred
- 6:24Speaker 1: the assets too late. He was late to the game.
- 6:26Speaker 1: He did this after the fact, after the lawsuit, after
- 6:30Speaker 1: the judgment, and that was fraudulent, and that allowed the
- 6:33Speaker 1: court to open up the door to hold him in
- 6:35Speaker 1: civil content of court. So his assets were protected, but
- 6:38Speaker 1: he opened up the door to be held in content
- 6:40Speaker 1: of court face potentially face imprisonment depending upon the state. Right, correct, Yeah,
- 6:47Speaker 1: so the big takeaway you know from that is just this,
- 6:49Speaker 1: all this stuff has to be set up beforehand, not
- 6:51Speaker 1: after the fact. Like just like even you know, like
- 6:54Speaker 1: we're talking about a little bit like medicaid planning, you
- 6:56Speaker 1: know for elders, is we got to do things before
- 6:58Speaker 1: that five years look back period. And so like whenever
- 7:01Speaker 1: we're trying to set up and preserve wealth or protect
- 7:03Speaker 1: ourselves from lawsuits, can't do it after the fact. It
- 7:05Speaker 1: always has to be set up early in beforehand.
- 7:07Speaker 3: Okay, so family limited partnerships trusts LLCs. What is the
- 7:14Speaker 3: best vehicle to accomplish all this or is it all
- 7:17Speaker 3: the above?
- 7:17Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 7:18Speaker 1: I think it's all the above, And it goes into layers.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Right at the end of the day, if you're just
- 7:22Speaker 1: starting out your greenhort investing or you don't have much,
- 7:25Speaker 1: that's where LLCs and insurance come into play. You know,
- 7:28Speaker 1: there's no point in building at taj mahal before you're
- 7:31Speaker 1: ready for a taj mahal. But we can layer this
- 7:34Speaker 1: stuff up so risky assets, like you know, easy one
- 7:37Speaker 1: to think about is investment properties, right, real estate, go
- 7:40Speaker 1: directly into an LLC, get some insurance on it. You're
- 7:43Speaker 1: gonna start growing you're gonna start scaling. That's where management
- 7:46Speaker 1: companies come into play. We utilize limited partnerships because there's
- 7:49Speaker 1: just more that we can do with them, and limited
- 7:51Speaker 1: partnerships separate out managers from owners, so it's a higher
- 7:56Speaker 1: level of protection than just another LLC. And then as
- 8:00Speaker 1: you get to like that million dollar mark is generally
- 8:02Speaker 1: when we're going to talk about the world of trust.
- 8:04Speaker 1: And not all trusts are the same. And I think
- 8:06Speaker 1: that people get really confused on well, have my revocable
- 8:10Speaker 1: living trust my estate plan, I'm good to go and
- 8:11Speaker 1: protect it. And it's like, oh, sorry, you know, that's
- 8:14Speaker 1: the wrong type of trust. That's not going to protect you.
- 8:16Speaker 1: You need the revocable living trust for medical directors, financial directors,
- 8:20Speaker 1: beneficiaries of avoiding probate, but they're not going to protect
- 8:24Speaker 1: you from you know, creditors and lawsuits. They don't have
- 8:26Speaker 1: the teeth. And then that's where acid protection trusts come
- 8:28Speaker 1: into play.
- 8:30Speaker 3: Okay, And how good are these asset protection trusts assuming
- 8:36Speaker 3: you set it up before and not after the fact.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Yeah, So it really just comes down to one what
- 8:44Speaker 1: state are you in, because not all states recognize and
- 8:47Speaker 1: have some sort of like self settled spend thrift legislation,
- 8:50Speaker 1: like all acid protection trust are self settled. So if
- 8:53Speaker 1: you live an example, a state like California, well, California
- 8:56Speaker 1: does not recognize self settled spendthrift trust. They don't have
- 8:59Speaker 1: the le legislation. And then there's a case Kilker versus
- 9:02Speaker 1: Steelman came down in twenty twelve that said, we're tired
- 9:05Speaker 1: of all you California residents running off to another state
- 9:08Speaker 1: like Nevada and creating a Nevada ascid Protection Trust. You're
- 9:11Speaker 1: not a resident of that state. We're not going to
- 9:13Speaker 1: recognize it, and it doesn't work. And so you can't
- 9:15Speaker 1: just go and jump around jurisdictional shop and say, well,
- 9:18Speaker 1: I'm a resident of the state that doesn't have this,
- 9:19Speaker 1: but this state does, so I'm going to go use
- 9:21Speaker 1: that and bring this state laws to my state that
- 9:23Speaker 1: I'm a resident of. So we got to look at
- 9:25Speaker 1: what state that you're at. If you're a resident of
- 9:27Speaker 1: like Nevada, yeah, we can utilize the Nevada ascid Protection trusts.
- 9:32Speaker 1: How strong are they? Surprisingly, the purely domestic ones, they're
- 9:35Speaker 1: not very strong. There's a lot of case law that's
- 9:38Speaker 1: been coming around since the early two thousands. We got
- 9:40Speaker 1: like Baitlevers, Mortisin and Rehover del burs Dale, and what
- 9:44Speaker 1: all these cases are of domestic like US based asset
- 9:48Speaker 1: protection trust. Then I've just been completely getting pierced and
- 9:51Speaker 1: those are on good facts. So then what do people do? Well?
- 9:55Speaker 1: We got another option, right, going purely offshore, the famous
- 9:58Speaker 1: Cook Islands Trust the most the strongest trust in the
- 10:02Speaker 1: world by far, the gold standard of any type of
- 10:05Speaker 1: acid protection trust. But they're expensive as heck, and it
- 10:08Speaker 1: takes all ay and you got to do like foreign
- 10:10Speaker 1: disclosures back to disclosures ten thirty five ten thirty five days,
- 10:13Speaker 1: very expensive to maintain most people ninety nine percent of society.
- 10:18Speaker 1: That's just way overkill. It's not worth it. So how
- 10:21Speaker 1: do you kind of bridge this gap?
- 10:23Speaker 3: Right?
- 10:24Speaker 1: That's where the best form of trust that I find
- 10:27Speaker 1: is was called a hybrid trust. We call it a
- 10:30Speaker 1: bridge trust. What you're doing is taking that foreign trust
- 10:33Speaker 1: for that strength and then domesticating it through the IRS
- 10:36Speaker 1: for the domestic simplicity of tax purposes. And so we
- 10:39Speaker 1: have the strength in the back pockets. Domestic simplicity was
- 10:43Speaker 1: max it cheaper to set up, easier to maintain, and
- 10:46Speaker 1: then it's like a Swiss army knife. What we need
- 10:48Speaker 1: when we need that strength, we have it. When we
- 10:50Speaker 1: don't need it is in our back pocket and we
- 10:52Speaker 1: can utilize it at that point in time. So really,
- 10:55Speaker 1: the gold standard nowadays for the last thirty years that
- 10:58Speaker 1: most people haven't heard about are these hybrid acid Protection
- 11:01Speaker 1: trust And that would be kind of the route where
- 11:04Speaker 1: most people would go once you hit that million dollar
- 11:07Speaker 1: exposed networthmark. I want to have someone calling in and saying, Hey,
- 11:10Speaker 1: I'm just setting starting out in real estate or investing.
- 11:14Speaker 1: Can I get a strong hybrid trust. No, that's way
- 11:17Speaker 1: overkill for you. Start at the base layer up and
- 11:20Speaker 1: then let the system grow and scale as you do.
- 11:22Speaker 3: All right, Hey, what about moving to Florida, Texas, getting
- 11:26Speaker 3: out of places like California where you're a virtual target
- 11:30Speaker 3: from every direction. Do you ever have clients do that?
- 11:35Speaker 4: No?
- 11:35Speaker 1: I do, I do. I don't think you're ever gonna
- 11:37Speaker 1: be able to fully run from any type of judgment
- 11:39Speaker 1: because even in Florida and Texas, you still have out
- 11:42Speaker 1: of control judges who anytime you go into a trial,
- 11:46Speaker 1: you don't know what's going to happen. It's not worth
- 11:49Speaker 1: the risk. I think Florida and Texas have great benefits
- 11:53Speaker 1: for like homestead exemptions and certain things like that. Like
- 11:56Speaker 1: an exemption is the strongest thing you can have in
- 11:57Speaker 1: the world, right, it's an exempt asset.
- 12:00Speaker 3: You know.
- 12:01Speaker 1: A great way to think about it was the famous
- 12:03Speaker 1: football player O. J. Simpson, right who got you know,
- 12:06Speaker 1: found out guilty from murdering his wife, lost a civil trial,
- 12:09Speaker 1: but then they never were able to collect on him
- 12:11Speaker 1: because his Florida mansion was homestead exempted and then his
- 12:14Speaker 1: NFL pension is a RESA exempted protected so they never
- 12:17Speaker 1: He's never able to be collected on all his assets
- 12:20Speaker 1: for safe. So that just goes the power of an exemption.
- 12:24Speaker 1: But if you're in Florida and you're investing in other states,
- 12:27Speaker 1: right like California real estate or other states, you can't say, well,
- 12:31Speaker 1: your honor, I'm a Florida resident, like this is you know,
- 12:34Speaker 1: apply Florida law when the injury is happening in California
- 12:37Speaker 1: or in New York or some other state.
- 12:39Speaker 3: What about the limitations on the effectiveness of allc's and
- 12:44Speaker 3: the partnerships living.
- 12:46Speaker 5: Yeah, so there's a lot of misconceptions on LLC's, Like
- 12:51Speaker 5: I like el c's but we need to remember, like
- 12:53Speaker 5: they're just the base layer, right, Like that's acid protection
- 12:57Speaker 5: one oh one.
- 12:58Speaker 1: And for some reason, I think that a lot of
- 13:01Speaker 1: people think that all of a sudden, well, I created
- 13:04Speaker 1: this LLC and this is my draculas layer. I'm good
- 13:07Speaker 1: to go, and they don't realize, like the veils can
- 13:09Speaker 1: be easily pierced. And then there's a lot of confusion
- 13:12Speaker 1: on where do we even set these things up in?
- 13:14Speaker 1: Right do we go to Delaware, Wyoming, Texas, Nevada? And
- 13:18Speaker 1: what we're really talking about, what I've been hinting on,
- 13:20Speaker 1: and some of this is just charging order protection and
- 13:22Speaker 1: corporate veil piercing, which is really big legal, fancy words.
- 13:26Speaker 1: And what we have to remember is that one LLC's
- 13:30Speaker 1: began in the seventies with the goal of blending the
- 13:33Speaker 1: elements of corporations and partnerships without the downside of double taxation,
- 13:37Speaker 1: right like acid protection was never the actual end goals
- 13:41Speaker 1: of LLC's, So by nature, they just aren't the strongest strategy.
- 13:46Speaker 1: And then they offer a limited veil of protection. And
- 13:49Speaker 1: that veil is good, right, It's better than nothing, It's
- 13:51Speaker 1: better than just having everything in your own personal name.
- 13:53Speaker 1: But it's fragile and it.
- 13:55Speaker 3: Can be pierced.
- 13:55Speaker 1: Just think of it like that thin, flimsy piece of
- 13:57Speaker 1: fabric that covers the face of a bride on her
- 13:59Speaker 1: wedding day. And so what people need to realize is
- 14:04Speaker 1: there's this case in twenty twenty three, so just last
- 14:06Speaker 1: year that as a Supreme Court case is called Mallory
- 14:09Speaker 1: versus NORTHFWLK, and the Supreme Court upheld a Pennsylvania statue
- 14:14Speaker 1: that forces companies to face litigation within the borders that
- 14:17Speaker 1: is registered to do business And I want to repeat
- 14:19Speaker 1: that because it's actually really important. It forces companies to
- 14:23Speaker 1: face litigation within the borders that is registered to do
- 14:26Speaker 1: business in. So state courts are permitted to exercise now
- 14:30Speaker 1: jurisdictions over registered foreign corporations that, let's say are holding
- 14:34Speaker 1: your real estate, you know, just as if there are
- 14:36Speaker 1: domestic corporations of that state. So running off to another
- 14:40Speaker 1: state like Delaware or Wyoming or Nevada and you're not
- 14:43Speaker 1: a resident of those states, the court are saying, sorry,
- 14:46Speaker 1: now the states can come in and get jurisdiction over that.
- 14:49Speaker 1: So we need to realize you're not going to get
- 14:52Speaker 1: any beneficial use out of the LLC if you're not
- 14:56Speaker 1: a resident of that state where it's holding the assets,
- 14:59Speaker 1: because those states can just take take the jurisdictional control, gotcha.
- 15:03Speaker 3: So any place where you are, they can get you
- 15:06Speaker 3: cor right, all right, So the gold standard of.
- 15:09Speaker 4: It all, the gold standard, I would say, layer this
- 15:13Speaker 4: up over time, pick the proper jurisdiction that assets go,
- 15:17Speaker 4: you know in the in an LLC in the state
- 15:19Speaker 4: that they're in, Layer up with a management company.
- 15:22Speaker 1: We prefer limited partnerships. And then once you hit that
- 15:25Speaker 1: you know high that one million net worthmark, hop it
- 15:29Speaker 1: off with a really strong hybrid trust and that way
- 15:32Speaker 1: we have the back pocket strength if we need it
- 15:34Speaker 1: with the simplicity of the domestic So the gold standard
- 15:37Speaker 1: is that hybrid trust. It's just a matter of wed
- 15:39Speaker 1: in time, right, you get to that level.
- 15:42Speaker 3: Right, Okay, So family limited partnership so still pretty tight.
- 15:47Speaker 1: Yeah, the family limited partnership, right, I can still be pierced,
- 15:50Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. You know it's what the benefit
- 15:53Speaker 1: of a limited partnership, the family limited partnership over another
- 15:56Speaker 1: LLC is that we can put more aid that's in it.
- 16:00Speaker 1: For one, like we can stuff cash, stocks, bonds, all
- 16:05Speaker 1: that non risky stuff directly in there, but there's a
- 16:07Speaker 1: built in delineation or separation between managers and owners by statute.
- 16:12Speaker 1: This is the only way that you can create a
- 16:14Speaker 1: limited partnership is saying the GPS the managing member, the
- 16:17Speaker 1: LPs the owner of this, and you just cannot do
- 16:20Speaker 1: that with an LLC because they're not created that way.
- 16:23Speaker 1: And so what some firms try to do is get
- 16:25Speaker 1: really created with operating agreements. The problem when you do
- 16:28Speaker 1: that with LLC's is you have to submit those operating
- 16:31Speaker 1: agreements for a judicial review. So when a judge's looking
- 16:34Speaker 1: at your operating agreement of your LLC and saying, I'm sorry,
- 16:36Speaker 1: this is not how LLCs are structured and set up.
- 16:39Speaker 1: I don't agree with your operating agreement. Your veil's now
- 16:41Speaker 1: pierced and it's not operating how it was intended. So
- 16:46Speaker 1: the better thing is just use the proper entity how
- 16:48Speaker 1: it was structured and created from the beginning, which would
- 16:51Speaker 1: be a limited partnership, because then we can separate out
- 16:53Speaker 1: the next layer, which would be the trust. How the
- 16:55Speaker 1: trust on the limited partnership, you would be the managing member,
- 16:58Speaker 1: and now everything by statute is properly legally structured.
- 17:03Speaker 3: All right, well, I think you're giving us really good exposure.
- 17:06Speaker 3: Next time you come on, we'll talk about those Medicaid
- 17:09Speaker 3: Medicare trusts to avoid having all your assets taken if
- 17:13Speaker 3: you fall ill and your insurance runs out or your
- 17:17Speaker 3: Medicare runs out. You know, these are real life problems here.
- 17:23Speaker 3: If people want to find about out more about you, Brian,
- 17:26Speaker 3: connect with you on the web. How do you do that?
- 17:28Speaker 1: Yeah, they can jump on my website www dot bTB
- 17:32Speaker 1: legal dot com. I use my website as an educational
- 17:35Speaker 1: resource and there's a lot of frequently asked questions and
- 17:38Speaker 1: a lot of educational videos on there. Feel free to
- 17:41Speaker 1: reach out to me Brian ba and at bTB legal
- 17:45Speaker 1: dot com. I do free consultations for people who listen
- 17:48Speaker 1: on the shows, So I'd rather have you get some
- 17:51Speaker 1: good advice and then take it from there to where
- 17:53Speaker 1: you need.
- 17:54Speaker 3: Hey, that's excellent. We appreciate that. Hey, got a question
- 17:57Speaker 3: from Brian or myself? Just shoot me email kl at
- 18:01Speaker 3: Carrie LUTs dot com. Hey, you will find his link
- 18:05Speaker 3: in the show notes to this interview on Financial Survival
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- 18:12Speaker 3: Ryan appreciate you coming on sharing your wisdom. We'll talk
- 18:15Speaker 3: to you again soon. Absolutely, thank you so much.
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