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Reflections On The Eagles Championship Season (PST Episode 603) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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  Speaker 1: What's up everybody. Hope you are doing well. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to let you know. This podcast episode was recorded on Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: February twelve, twenty twenty five. By the time you hear this,
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  Speaker 1: some things may have changed here there. We hope you
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  Speaker 1: enjoy the show. Welcome to the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show,
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  Speaker 1: the longest running weekly Philly sports podcast show in the world,
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  Speaker 1: over eleven and a half years strong. We've got a
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  Speaker 1: great show for you this week as we get into
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  Speaker 1: some Phillies talk, yes'ring training right around the quarter. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: pitchers and catchers have reported. We're gonna talk about this team.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about this pitching staff as we are
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  Speaker 1: getting ready for this twenty twenty five season. We're also
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  Speaker 1: gonna get into some Sixers talks, specifically the Lisa Salters
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  Speaker 1: report about Joe l Embiid believing we'll need to have
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  Speaker 1: another surgery and a long recovery period. Fantastic, folks, Great
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  Speaker 1: Sixers talk coming your way. We're also gonna get into
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  Speaker 1: some NFL storylines heading into this offseason. We're gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: about the Super Bowl as well, and then what we're
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  Speaker 1: throwing down on the table this week. We got our
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  Speaker 1: good friend Mark Scofield from SB Nation. He's gonna jump on.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna take a look at the Eagles championship season
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  Speaker 1: and where this team really is gonna go from here
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  Speaker 1: after being the crown the champs this past week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Warren and I'm here by buddy Eric Leonard.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing, man, I'm good. I do go back
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  Speaker 2: and listen to our postgame podcast after the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: That should be the way we do post games for
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  Speaker 2: any any of the games with Eagles, especially like I
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  Speaker 2: should beat your place sounds much better. And just the
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  Speaker 2: enthusiasm of it, like in person in that moment, because
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  Speaker 2: I there's just no comparison. I know it's a super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl and God will re hyped up.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Like I listened to it and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: my god, I was all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so was I. But the enthusiasm in our voices
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  Speaker 2: and I must have said we kicked the rasses like fifty.
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  Speaker 1: Times because I didn't, Well did.
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  Speaker 2: They really did, But my head was in the clouds
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  Speaker 2: and I couldn't come out with the words in the moment.
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  Speaker 2: But like what a So we we spent the super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl at your house? I think that, you know, if
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  Speaker 2: you heard the post game and man watching it alone,
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  Speaker 2: let not alone, it's your house, just with your family,
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  Speaker 2: but with instead of like doing it with friends that
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  Speaker 2: love the team, especially us for you be doing the
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  Speaker 2: show forever. What an experience actually, because we did it
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  Speaker 2: together in twenty eighteen when they won Stay College, all together,
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  Speaker 2: and to do it again here, I think we that
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  Speaker 2: should be on the table every time going forward because
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  Speaker 2: that really is kind of a special deal.
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  Speaker 1: So you think they're going to be in the super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl again? Forgotten that every time?
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  Speaker 2: Hey listen. One of the topics I brought up was
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  Speaker 2: on the on the post game was how dare you
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  Speaker 2: sixteen year olds think this is going to happen all
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  Speaker 2: the time?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: But you know, but the team, I'm sure you guys
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  Speaker 2: will get into it, but like the team is set
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  Speaker 2: up to possibly I'm not talking to three people. Shit,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, yeah, the next couple of years,
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  Speaker 2: we actually have to keep our calendars open as long
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  Speaker 2: as we're still alive.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes we do. I have to say, it was
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  Speaker 1: a great time. You mentioned the post game show, and
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  Speaker 1: I just want to say this. This is a Jeff
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  Speaker 1: nerd audio guy coming out here to you man, your audio,
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  Speaker 1: it was really like the base the low end of
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  Speaker 1: your audio was way too much on my mixer and
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  Speaker 1: I was listening to it of my car and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, that low end is really
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  Speaker 1: coming through. And I just like, I'm so used to
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  Speaker 1: us connecting the way that we do online and how
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  Speaker 1: you how your track is on my mixer. I shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have done that for you being here anyway. I just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to mention that to folks out there.
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  Speaker 2: I did take radio training college, so yeah, the little
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  Speaker 2: end is very well well.
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  Speaker 1: Bon dray Bon drayrd Herd.
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  Speaker 2: We're doing some really old school like mainstream shock jock stuff.
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  Speaker 2: If you know, you probably have no idea. It's a
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  Speaker 2: very small niche.
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  Speaker 1: Chetting Bon Drae, bon dre Well, we got a great show.
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  Speaker 1: I do want to mention, because it's been a couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks, we got an email from one of our
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  Speaker 1: longtime listeners of the show, Patrick he Uh said in
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  Speaker 1: response to one of Eric's uh opening intro segments with
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  Speaker 1: regard to coaching and coaching kids sports, he said, Hey, there, gents,
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  Speaker 1: specifically Eric, I've coached my kids soccer, flag, football, and
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  Speaker 1: baseball teams. I'm coaching fifth grade basketball for the first time.
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  Speaker 1: We won our first game four to two. Should I
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  Speaker 1: resign in shame? He said, just kidding and go Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for the email, Patrick, but I just wanted to mention, like,
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  Speaker 1: once again, I'm not sure if I was I complaining
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  Speaker 1: that I was at my daughter's like cheer basketball game.
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  Speaker 1: My daughter's a cheerleader, went to just about every basketball
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  Speaker 1: game and my gosh, the one of the last girls back,
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  Speaker 1: the second to last girls basketball game, it was thirty
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  Speaker 1: four to nothing, and I was like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: that was that was brutal sitting through that.
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  Speaker 2: You must have maybe he did mention the show, or
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  Speaker 2: it may it's just a response to my coaching stories.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but my one yeah, oh.
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  Speaker 2: Dad, definitely Patrick. Yeah, my recent one of one of
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  Speaker 2: my boys who eats French fries out of his pocket
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  Speaker 2: during practice. I think that might have been what yeah, Tally,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Patrick, is this one of those leagues where
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  Speaker 2: like the kids don't have hands or something. The four
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  Speaker 2: I'm totally kidding.
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  Speaker 1: Let's split my iced tea out.
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  Speaker 2: Geez it's I mean, it's almost impossible to lose thirty
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  Speaker 2: four zero or even win four to two. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: think Patrick as a new basketball coach, I can I
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  Speaker 2: can give you some advice. You should tell your team
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  Speaker 2: that that's a tough that's a tough win. The better team,
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  Speaker 2: like really good teams win those types of tough, tight games.
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  Speaker 2: That's that should be the messaging. And then I'll be
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  Speaker 2: working your shooting. Your team shooting. Your defense is in place.
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  Speaker 2: Man two points that is stellar. Might want to work
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  Speaker 2: on some layup shots. Maybe a player too, pros. Patrick,
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Welcome to the club. Please share any
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  Speaker 2: stories you have via email. I will continue to share mine.
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  Speaker 2: We still have a couple of weeks left and then
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  Speaker 2: we go into AU. I got months and months of
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  Speaker 2: stories coming. Seeah Patrick, please keep keep keep them coming.
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  Speaker 1: Keep them coming for sure. All right, well let's get
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  Speaker 1: into some Philly sports talk. Baseball season here is right
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  Speaker 1: around the corner. Pitchers and catchers have reported around the country,
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  Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Phillies down in clear Water, and we were
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  Speaker 1: getting some reports. We're getting some reports out of this
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  Speaker 1: early spring trainings. I can't even call it spring training.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's freaking freezing out. I can't call it
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  Speaker 1: spring anything. What do we call it winter escapades? I
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  Speaker 1: have no idea what to call it, but I can't
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  Speaker 1: call it spring training at this point. So anyway, how
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  Speaker 1: are we feeling about the Phillies new pitchers that they
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  Speaker 1: have brought onto the staff for this twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 1: season and the pitching staff overall. I mean, Eric, I've
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  Speaker 1: been reading some reports out of and specifically on NBC
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  Speaker 1: Sports Philadelphia, like about Andrew Paynter. Listen, we know that
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  Speaker 1: Zach Wheeler, Aaron Nola, Ranger Suarez, Christopher Sanchez, and jezus
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  Speaker 1: Lozardo the newest acquisition to the starting rotation. They're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be something to be reckoned with this season, one of
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  Speaker 1: the best starting rotations in Major League Baseball. But I
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  Speaker 1: really found a report about Andrew Paynter very interesting, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm excited to actually see him pitch perhaps
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  Speaker 1: this coming season. Apparently his rehab has been going really,
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  Speaker 1: really well enough that the athletic trainer of the Phillies
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  Speaker 1: told Dave Dombrowski as the Arizona Fall League approached that
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  Speaker 1: he thought the right hander was healthy enough to move
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  Speaker 1: to the next phase. So Painter then goes to the
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  Speaker 1: AFL he absolutely dominated. He earned the league's Pitcher of
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  Speaker 1: the Year award by allowing just four runs and fifteen
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  Speaker 1: and two thirds innings with eighteen strikeouts four walks. The
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  Speaker 1: kid's not going to be there on opening Day, for
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  Speaker 1: my understanding, but he's going to be thrown on the
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  Speaker 1: side for every three days. I guess the next step
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  Speaker 1: would then be for him to face hitters and then
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  Speaker 1: pitching an extended spring training games As a regular season approaches.
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  Speaker 1: Reports coming out that he could actually be up eric
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  Speaker 1: by June or July. And if he is the ace
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  Speaker 1: that the Phillies think he is, this is going to
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  Speaker 1: be one hell of a pitching staff for the National
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  Speaker 1: League to deal with.
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  Speaker 2: Here, Oh for sure, I'll speak to this starting five
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  Speaker 2: right now on paper. You know, if they all stay
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  Speaker 2: stay healthy, right Lozardo, Nola, Sanchez, Souarez, Wheeler. You got
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  Speaker 2: three lefties, three solid lefties, ye too, you know, two
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  Speaker 2: more than solid, I would say, Lazardo just being like
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  Speaker 2: the quintessential by Low can it? You know, kind of
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  Speaker 2: a Bilow free agent kind of pitcher, had great stats
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  Speaker 2: two years ago, not great last year, but has a
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  Speaker 2: six slider and they have him as your number five
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  Speaker 2: as opposed to Walker, such a huge upgrade. And speaking
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  Speaker 2: of Painter again, this is I read Todds of Lakey's
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  Speaker 2: piece on MLB dot com, and you know, he's basically
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  Speaker 2: this could be the best rotation baseball. It's his bottom
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  Speaker 2: line if everyone stays healthy. But that applies to everybody,
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  Speaker 2: but this one in particular. To have three strong lefties
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  Speaker 2: that you can throw, you can kind of mix and
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  Speaker 2: match depending on the line up you're facing, but to
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  Speaker 2: also have those two right handed studs up top. There
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  Speaker 2: is kind of a handri history with these guys a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. To have Painter come back in June, possibly
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  Speaker 2: in case of an injury, and to bring that kind
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  Speaker 2: of firepower up from the minor leagues like potential ace.
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  Speaker 2: They're in a great spot, Like there's just no other
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  Speaker 2: way around it. I'm looking at their their depth at
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  Speaker 2: relief pitcher yep, just strong as hell man, I mean Alvarado, Banks, Kirkering, Romano, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Matt Strong. You know in Taywan Walker, if you need
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  Speaker 2: like a long relief kind of thing, he's not. He's
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  Speaker 2: good in spots like for free innings.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not worried that Jeff Hoffman and Carlos Stevez
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  Speaker 1: left town for free and free agency. I'm not concerned
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  Speaker 1: about that. I'm really not.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm not either. And also the guy you have
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  Speaker 2: Max Bizarre and Tyler Phillips, possibly that could that could
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  Speaker 2: you know, make make the the roster. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: unfortunately you're paying Walker threety six mil. But maybe he's
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  Speaker 2: in a better spot now, maybe you could you know,
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  Speaker 2: actually help the team as opposed to hurting the team
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  Speaker 2: last year, which is what he did all year long.
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  Speaker 2: That's not to mention there the actually the bats that
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  Speaker 2: are going to be kind of the same but still
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  Speaker 2: strong agent agent another year. But I imagine they're gonna
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  Speaker 2: have a pretty good season. I'm hoping Scott has a
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  Speaker 2: better season last year. But speaking of it, just the
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  Speaker 2: just the starting pitching, it's it's it's there to make
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  Speaker 2: a long run because that's how this team is built,
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  Speaker 2: and that the starting lineup or the starting rotation is
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  Speaker 2: perfectly set up to do that for this year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it absolutely is. I can't wait. You mentioned the
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  Speaker 1: bullpen and really quick uh the off season additions with
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  Speaker 1: right handers Jeff Ross but specifically Jordan Romano. I cannot
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  Speaker 1: wait to see how he is going to fill that
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  Speaker 1: void again with Jeff Hoffman not being here. Carlos Estevez,
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  Speaker 1: how he's going to fill that void and just contribute
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  Speaker 1: some of these solid innings out of the bullpen for
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  Speaker 1: this Phillies team. I cannot wait to see Jordan Romano
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  Speaker 1: and what he's going to do in terms of his
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  Speaker 1: closing abilities. It's going to be fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm going to start counting now how many
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  Speaker 2: times you're gonna called Joe Ross Jeff Ross. This is
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  Speaker 2: number one. I'm going to count this one. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to keep it one. What I call him Jeff Ross,
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  Speaker 2: like the comedian.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I have a note pad here next to
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  Speaker 2: the podcast equipment, and I wrote it down Jeff Ross one.
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  Speaker 2: Put the date. So we'll see. It should be fun
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  Speaker 2: this year.
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  Speaker 1: Fun times being me? Do you have anything else? You know,
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  Speaker 1: just just a quick segment here on Phillies pitching. You
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  Speaker 1: have anything else before we move on to some Sixers talk,
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  Speaker 1: some fun sixers talk.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe she just keeps on with the Phillies then maybe
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  Speaker 2: we should. It's really nice how many years we went
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  Speaker 2: into a season and we're like, all right, we got
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  Speaker 2: one good guy and uh boy, Number five, we're in
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  Speaker 2: a world of ship exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking like this could be the best rotation in baseball.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see, right, which again, there's something to be said
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  Speaker 1: for you know, how they didn't go out that you know,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't get the big names, they didn't get the
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  Speaker 1: big bats. I should say they didn't get the big
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  Speaker 1: bats and free agency. Leave that to the Dodgers and Mets. However,
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  Speaker 1: bringing in the pitchers that they did bring in relief
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  Speaker 1: pitchers that back end of the rotation starter. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they're banking on the pitching getting it done this year.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we saw the bats falter every now and
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  Speaker 1: again during certain key spots of last season. In twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four, I think that the pit they're not that
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  Speaker 1: it's an experimentation necessarily, but I think they're just kind
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  Speaker 1: of just hedging their bets, saying we think this pitching staff,
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  Speaker 1: if healthy, are going to be able to get this
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  Speaker 1: team through the postseason and you know, get get them
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  Speaker 1: to the NLCS.
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  Speaker 2: No, I agree, like they worked around the edges this time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: free I'm okay with that because it leads them with
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  Speaker 2: flexibility during the season. They look at the Mets last
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  Speaker 2: year the team that took us down the playoffs. They
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  Speaker 2: got hot at the right time. Very talented team, but
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  Speaker 2: they're not as talented as the Phillies roster wise. My opinion,
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  Speaker 2: Maybe now they are because you know some of the
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  Speaker 2: big time for the free agencignies they did. But I
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  Speaker 2: think the way they handled the soft season was smart,
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  Speaker 2: giving them self flexibility around the trade deadline.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah all right, folks, Well let's now dive into some
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  Speaker 1: Sixers talk. This This isn't gonna be the most fun
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  Speaker 1: conversation because, first and foremost, before we hit the record button,
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  Speaker 1: I had a notification came up. Paul George scored two
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  Speaker 1: points two points tonight in the Sixers loss to the Nets. Folks,
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  Speaker 1: that's not a misprint anywhere. He scored two points. Paul
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  Speaker 1: George did their free agent acquisition this past year. But
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  Speaker 1: but that's not even what we had on the agenda.
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  Speaker 2: No, we had hold on real quick. Yeah, Patrick, Patrick's
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  Speaker 2: team would it beat Paul George tonight?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yes, Oh my god, Patrick, your team
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  Speaker 1: could have gone against Paul George.
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  Speaker 2: Jesus, they would have beat him. I guarantee five of
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  Speaker 2: his kids. Would it be Paul.
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  Speaker 1: George yes, Jesus God well, Lisassaulters this past week on Sunday, actually,
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  Speaker 1: and I showed Air Eric, I showed you the notification
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  Speaker 1: that came up on my phone about this Lisa Assaulters
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: report about Joel Embiid believing he'll need another surgery and
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: a long recovery period. If accurate, it really does seem
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: like a total failure by the Sixers in terms of
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  Speaker 1: how they have handled Joel Embiid, how this entire season
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: has been handled, even though Embiid is still on the court,
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: he's still out there playing as well. We'll get into
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  Speaker 1: our thoughts here on this freaking debacle. It is incredible
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  Speaker 1: what is happening here. And it's not just the two
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  Speaker 1: points that were scored by Paul George, but it's how
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: the Sixers continue to lose, How the injuries have certainly
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: plagued this team for sure, but how they're continuing to
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: lose time and time again, especially to lesser teams. I mean,
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: for guy, the worst half of an NBA game against
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: the Pistons this past week, I mean about a week
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  Speaker 1: ago or so. It was one of the worst halves
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  Speaker 1: of NBA basketball this season that the Sixers played they
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  Speaker 1: lost the Pistons. For God's sakes, this team is reeling.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're done. I think everybody at this point
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  Speaker 1: just about thinks that this team is done. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you put em beat on the shelf and just kind
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  Speaker 1: of just ride it out. It's it is so incredibly disappointing.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about it before we had to record
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  Speaker 1: button Eric. I don't remember a team this disappointing in
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  Speaker 1: the world of Philly sports. With the expectations going into
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: the season based on a free agent acquisition, saying to yourself, Wow,
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  Speaker 1: We've got three tremendous star talents and it has been
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  Speaker 1: dog shit, complete dog shit.
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  Speaker 2: I don't much to add, h Okay, I'll start with
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  Speaker 2: I'll start with the Sixers organization and how they've handled
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  Speaker 2: this entire mbeat situation. I mean, you want to talk
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: talk about dishonesty with your fan base and with the
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: press and everything like this is it's been a disaster
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  Speaker 2: from the start. Besides the suspension and the absolute coyus
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  Speaker 2: revolving around his injury status or his knees or whatever
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  Speaker 2: was going on with him right just throughout the season.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he didn't he didn't start out the season,
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  Speaker 2: and when he did, he went back out, play a
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  Speaker 2: little bit, come back out, and when he was on
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  Speaker 2: the court he looked good maybe once every three games,
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  Speaker 2: and the other times he was falling on the ground.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Last night they needed a three pointer, he decided to
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: dribble in towards the lane and gave the you know
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: how to turn over at the foul line against one
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: of the worst teams in league. By the way, yep
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: and H who were without uh R J Bear their
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: best player. They lost to the Pistons in an embarrassing
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: fashion without Kate Cunningham. By the way, these are these
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: aren't These aren't like hard fought losses. These are like
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: ass kickings. Even even though we lost by three last night,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: we shouldn't have been in that game. Like it's just
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: and tonight they lost to the Brooklyn Nets to have
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: nothing to play for. It's that's the that's where we're
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: at with the season. Like they can't even beat the
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: teams are supposed to beat. You should just absolutely tank
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: the season. But like I said, they're just you know,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: the other teams around them got worse than they did,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: and they're just gonna gonna hover and hover and hover
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: and probably make the play in and then get throttled
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: by the Calves or the Celtics. It's a sad season.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: It's pathetic, and there's not really much to say. What
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I will What I do want to cover, though, is
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: when you when you I was so into the Eagles,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: when you show me the story on your phone, like
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: we just got there getting settled in and you showed
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: it to me. And I didn't have a reaction much
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: because it's like whatever, fucking.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: You're like, of course You're like of course, yeah, yeah.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: But I'll say this, this is the first time the
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Sixers did a good job PR wise with Embiid's stuff.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Because during Super Bowl Sunday.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I have it up right now on ESPN dot com
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: at least Asalter's story was posted at six fifty eight
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: pm on Sunday, twenty minutes after the Super Bowl started.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: That was by design.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Yep, whoever in their PR.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Team thought of that, Hey, guess what. The Eagles run
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, And I bet you they probably pushed
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: the story even more after they won, because they're like,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: no one's going to care. Yeah, yeah, it's not going
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: to be a big deal after they won the Super Bowl.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Really disgusting, but you know, taking myself out of it. Logically,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: it's like that's the time I would have done it too.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I get it, absolutely and just just a disgraceful performance
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: by the organization and all the players, with the exception
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: of Maxi. Paul George. There's a stat out there that
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: he's posted more YouTube clips apparently then he has points
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: this year. Oh my god, I mean, it's what an asshole.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize. I text my brother the other day.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: He's slowly rising up my top ten Least six yers list.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: He's been here like four months.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: An absolute travesty of a season, and it's just gonna
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: get worse because we're losing our first round pick. You
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: have two of the most untradable contracts in basketball and
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: BB number one Paul George, probably two, three, four somewhere
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: in there, and uh, that's where we're at. There's not
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: much else to say.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: You don't think they can offload the Paul George contract.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I know, I saw it. I thought you were joking.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I was waiting for you to smile because on camera, guy,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I can see him. I thought he was joking, and
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: he didn't. He didn't crack. No, of course not. He's
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: like thirty four. He's got like a four year deal
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: where it's like two fifty. Nobody's going to fucking pay
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: this guy sixty million dollars when he's thirty eight years old.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Haven't seen him play.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I wanted to see your reaction.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: I honestly, I'll be a completely I thought and beating
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: this is my naive six ersdom. You know. Throughout this
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: whole situation though, from the process when it started in
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, I was always bought in for the most part. Yeah,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: and we've had a really exciting preseasons going into the
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: year going oh this could be it, man, I think
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: a Jimmy man. We were fucking amped and that was
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: it was probably the best team, and that they when
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Dad didn't happen, we should have been like this is
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: we're fucked. But like this one, even if it beats hurt.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: You got Paul George coming in, who's a constant professional
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: leading up to this with MAXI that is a great
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: one two punch. George is an excellent defender. They should
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: be able to hover and beat the bad teams and
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: then and be comes back and then we just make
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: a run and we're not even we're not even on
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: that planet anymore. No like that that that that one
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: that went by by like weeks and weeks ago.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I feel like they should be least seventh in the
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: in the east, like I should.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I should be fighting for six seven, yeah exactly, that's
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: and and then and then getting healthy and scaring the
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: ship out of Bucks in the first round something like that.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: That's where they should have been, but not even close,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: like we're and we're gonna lose that pick because just
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: because if we keep losing to the Pistons and the raptors, right,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: maybe we was shot at that, but as of right now,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: like you need to start losing by thirty points every
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: fucking night for weeks and weeks on end, and that
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: that just I don't If it b does go down
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: and George keeps scoring two points, maybe we'll get there.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: It's honestly a possibility.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I also wonder, I I sy, I genuinely wonder if
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: these guys are just going out there. I'm gonna get
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: my paycheck and I'm not even gonna give it, uh
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: half an effort. I'm not even gonna give a fifty
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: percent of the effort I genuinely wonder if these guys
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: are just simply getting their paychecks going through the motions.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: And if that's the case, what the hell does Daryl
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Mory do? What does this front office do in the
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: off season? How can this team potentially be restructured. It's
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: gonna be very difficult, like you just mentioned, with the
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: two contracts, But like I do you, how do you
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: if the guys are already in that mental frame of mind,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have this for the next three years easily.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: If I'm the Sixers, If I'm Daryl Mory, you know,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I'm probably losing my job after this year. Probably maybe,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, because he did make the trades to get
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: them under a certain part of the apron. Like all
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: the trades they made. I look back and I'm like, oh,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: that was just salary dumb stuff, so they could get
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: under a certain like text thing. Uh, but you know,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: you you made all these signing you signed Caleb Martin
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: or you trade it for sign do you sign him
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: a trade? It doesn't matter. They traded him for Quentin Grimes,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: which actually a good player. I was actually happy with
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: that trade, but it was essentially to save six million dollars. Yes,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: you're basically admitting, three months after this season started that
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: you made grave errors as a GM. All the trades
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: you made are just to save Josh Harris money. You're
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: trying to save your job. Probably to me as a fan,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: you should lose your job because this has gone so poorly.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Someone has to take the blame. It's not gonna be
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Josh Harris. Nick Nurse is gonna lose his job, that's
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: for sure. And I don't know what this team looks
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: like next year after this is over, and if they
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: lose their first round pick. If I'm in the front office,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I guess I'm Maxi McCain. Here we come. We're fun
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: and happy, and we're nice guys. Ignore those two assholes
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: over there making five hundred million dollars. I'm not sure
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: what you do because what an albatross these too are?
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Like maybe it is literally an albatross, like the definition
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: of the word. Like he's a weight on you because
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: he's so big and slow and he's just gonna get slower.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I need to get my knee worked on to get
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: back to where I was. You're never coming back. Believe
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: that's over.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Where we are now From where this team was, where
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: he was just two years ago. Man, just two years ago.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: It's incredible to.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Me, But it happens to seven to two hundred seventy
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: pound guys. Yeah, that is fast, you know what I mean.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Like the Paul George thing. I didn't see coming though.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: I really thought, what a signing. You never NBA teams
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: never have cap space and sign sign a quote superstar
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: or star whatever. That just never happens. Like like teams,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: teams typically put cap money aside go after all these stars,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: no one signs with them, and they wind up signing
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Caleb Martin to like forty million dollars, way too much money,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: like that kind of thing. They overspend because they have
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: the money. This time it actually worked one of the
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: first times in ages. And he's come in and just
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: like shit, just absolute dog shit. He's I was. I
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: loved him as a player. He's really bad this year.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: He's not good. Yeah, not good. All right, Well, it's
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: gonna do it here for uh what.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: A segment chef that?
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Yeahright? No, my gosh, why don't we get to some
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Why don't we get to some super Bowl talk? Some
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Eagles talk football talk? Dear God? All right, well, let's
• 26:18
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• 27:01
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• 27:06
  Speaker 1: and uh yeah, Eric and I we wanna we want
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: to get into what are gonna be some interesting storylines
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: heading into this NFL off season. We're certainly gonna be
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: getting into the Philadelphia Eagles in just a bit. But
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: in terms of some like really interesting storylines, I think
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: there's some things in this league, Eric, that are changing
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: here and there, and one of them, I think that
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: we are seeing and yes, part of it is because
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: of Jalen Hurts. Part of it is because of Josh Allen.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Part of it is because of this younger quarterback uh
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: crop that is in the NFL. But the quarterback position
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: is changing, and for me, I'm gonna really be looking
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: at this coming off season how teams who have the
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: need for a quarterback, how they're going to view and
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: take care of this evolving quarterback position, a quarterback where
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: they're they're using their legs on the field and of
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: course also their arm and and how teams like the Giants,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: the Steelers, the Titans, how they go about evaluating and
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: acquiring a quarterback with those characteristics and with a certain
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: skill set to mimic. I guess you would say what
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: has been happening with the quarterback position here in the
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: NFL so that that that's gonna be one of my
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: most interesting storylines heading into this offseason. You know, whether
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be rookies in the draft or whether it's
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: gonna be U you know you're gonna have You're gonna
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: have old old farts out there, like Kirk Cousins going
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: to some other team at this point, Aaron Rodgers, who
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: the hell knows what's gonna happen to him. He's horrendous.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: He probably should hang it up at this point. But
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: there's definitely a new type of quarterback in this league,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to seeing how some of these
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: teams who need a quarterback are going to try to
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: try to get that next quarterback to fit the mold
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: of what we're seeing now.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I think for sure, the uh, you know, Jane Daniels
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: set the bar pretty high, oh yeah, for you know,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: for teams looking for a quarterback. And I think I
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: think some of these bad teams, dumb teams, are going
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: to talk themselves into drafting quarterbacks a little too high
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: coming up this year. It was like two months already, right, yea,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: pretty fast. I'll rely on you on this as far
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: as the college kids in your opinion, But like they've
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: really unfortunately the landscape of the NFL now has it's
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: perpetuated like these these teams are going to have to
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: take quarterbacks much higher they probably wanted to guys that
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: I am sure of, because the best quarterbacks now are
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes a ship.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Don't count him anymore. But quarterbacks can use their legs, right,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Jayde Daniels being like the perfect example, and he's going
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: to be the poster boy for every every team you get.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I needed Jayden and Daniels, I need the next one
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: is a camp Ward? Is it the kid from Colorado?
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I don't say, yeah.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I don't think either one. This is a weird draft.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: If you need a quarterback, I think there's like two
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: maybe you know, you know, a third one is gonna
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: get thrown in the mixer eventually after the combine. Yeah,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: and some team, some dumb team, the Raiders probably or
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: you know, the Giants are going to take a guy
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: way too high, like the kid was it Mississippi? Is
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: what's his name? Is he the other Jackson Dart yea, yeah,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: he's like maybe the third one on the list. I
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: think this. I think this draft is going to be
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: an epic disaster for a couple of the dumb teams
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: out there. They're going to take. Is cam Ward even
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: on the same level as as Jade and Daniels, Is
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Sanders even on that same level?
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Probably not, I don't think so. I don't know. I
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: don't think at this point in time, from what I
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: saw this past year and what I saw with these
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: guys in twenty twenty three, even I would actually take
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: cam Ward first. I do think he has some skill
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: that will be transferable over to the NFL. Should Ur
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Sanders I don't know, he's got legs again, he has
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: some Jaden Daniels type of characteristics to him. But the
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: thing that Jaden Daniels had this entire season, which you
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: cannot like teach somebody, you can teach it, but for
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: a rookie to come in and have the poise that
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels had, like I'm not sure should Her Sanders
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: has that. Maybe he does, maybe cam Ward does have
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: it as well, but that poise coming in and when
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: teams are expecting rookies to do what Jaden Daniels did,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen because, I mean,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: when does a rookie come in, aside from maybe like
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, you know when we have seen in our
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: lifetime a rookie come in and really just kind of
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: set the bar to another level. Jaden Daniels, Andrew Luck.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I really can't think of any others because it certainly
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: wasn't Peyton Manning. His rookie season was a disaster until
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: he started getting going. But it's all out how these
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: kids are, yes kids, how how they are coached, you
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, and like their coach ability as well.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: So I mean I would go cam Ward Sanders and
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: then Jackson Dart as the top three.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: But so you talk about Manning, you talk about who's
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: the other kid from the colt He just said his name,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: sorry Angel Luck and you Luck? So like not the
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: same quarterbacks though, like a little more a little more landlocked,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: a little more like old school pocket passers. That's kind
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: of got thrown out. Yeah, definitely, all all three quarterbacks
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: that talked about with their legs also good pocket pastors
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: as well. And I think what's going to happen is,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I think these teams are going to over evaluate so
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: much over try and going to try and put cam
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Ward and the Sanders kid into this Jayden Daniels pocket.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: But meanwhile, Jane Daniel's like twenty four years old. Yeah,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: like he he's a rookie, but he's not a rookie,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: like he had a lot of experience, you know.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and if.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: He was an NBA player, he probably does not go
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: until like a late first round because of the age
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: thing in the NFL, it's it's a different, different, different beast.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: You cannot expect a twenty twenty one year old kid
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: to come in and do what Jayden Daniels did because
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: you just you just had the experience and the poise.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Like you said, yeah, I think because of age, he's
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: an anomaly. So to try and copy this, I think
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: it's a fool's game. But that's what the draft is.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: That's what the draft beata.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: We have seen so many the the what was the
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: my god, what was the draft with the brown Oh
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: my god, the Browns took Who's Baker Mayfield? Baker Mayfield?
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: That draft right there, that was just a land mine
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: of ship like teams just you know, like Sam Darnald
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: might have made himself a little more money this year
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: the super Bowl. Yeah after this year now, especially after
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: the super Bowl, like I think his his his his stink,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: the stink of him, like blowing the last two games
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: and looking like ship might be a little forgotten because
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I think some of these smarter teams might be like,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I don't want to trade up and give up two
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: round pick two first round pictures for cam Ward. Maybe
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: I just give Donald like fifty million, yeah, and do
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: something like that. But like, I think the dumb teams
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: are gonna take these kids and gonna go We're starting
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: day one. They're gonna throw them to the Wolves, and
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: we're gonna be a Brice Young situation. Yeah, and he's
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: gonna be Jane Daniel's. But no, he's not. He's just not.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: And and again, the teams that I'm seeing on the
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: on the on the the mock draft, the Titans, the Giants,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: the Browns poorly poorly run teams.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Just I can't imagine, like I mean you imagine like
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: going into the Browns situation with that quarterback, with all
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: the allegations and all the money. Yeah, and you're like, here,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: you go lead us to a super Bowl, setting up
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: a kid for a like just for for failure. Failure, man,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: it might. It just sucks. Like and I'm almost like, hey,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurst, you're a jerk because you're you're partly respond
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: so for this. Yes, what these bad teams are going
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: to start to do, but you know but that one
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: of the teams is our division, So yeah, good.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: What's what what's your most interesting storyline heading into this
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: NFL season that I mean that was just mine right there.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: I mean the evolving quarterback position and what some of
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: these teams are going to do to address it. I mean,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: what's your most interesting storyline that you're going to be
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: following heading into the season off season, I should.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Say, honestly, it's what I just talked about, is watching
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: the dumb teams continue to be dumb. It's it's a
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: lot of fun. Like like, for the longest time, the
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Eagles are one of the worst run organizations throughout the years,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: like throughout the decades, you know, like the Norman Brayman
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: years near the end and the late nineties, Eagles were
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: just fucking horrible to watch and just and just made
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: awful draft picks off of free agent signings. And then
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: and then we're like in a in a in a
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: waste land and like the twenty early twenty tens a
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: little bit there after after the yeah, so yeah, like
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: I I do enjoy watching really bad, poorly run organizations
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: in the NFL make really bad draft picks. The Jets
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: were renowned for this quarterbacks and just running him into
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: the ground. Sam Darnold being a great example, it's probably
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: the most entertaining thing about the NFL. To me, it's
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: probably the most anything entertainment about sports, Like that poorly
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: run NBA teams chef's kiss.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I love.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Apparently now I'm eating my own words now is a
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Philly fan, right, but like that is probably my best
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Like I can't wait to see how the Titans shit
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: the bed to allow Derek Henry to walk in for
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Will Levis and that disaster you put together last year.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Like what a great as an outside viewer, not a
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Titans family, It's so much fun to watch like that,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: that's what you decided to do. The kid that puts
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: may On in his coffee, You went with him instead
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: of one of the best running backs of all time,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: maybe top five all time? Yeah cool, yeah, smart?
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I love it all right. Well, moving on here and
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: sticking with some football and specifically with regard to the
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, some numbers came out for how many viewers
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: actually we're watching the Super Bowl. According to Fox, the
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl broadcast drew a record audience of what was
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: first to believe, first to be believed, one hundred and
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: twenty six million viewers. They actually have said it's actually
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty seven point seven million viewers. Incredible, incredible, Eric,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: The NFL is king, and it's not going anywhere anytime soon.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: They can pretty much do anything they want. Let's look
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: really quick at some of the other sports that we
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: love watching, Baseball, hockey, basketball, thirty million watch the World Series,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: sixteen point three million watch the Stanley Cup Finals amazingly enough,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: and eleven point three million watched the NBA Final. And
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: then again you have the NFL where the Super Bowl
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: broadcast drew a record audience of one hundred and twenty
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: seven point seven million viewers. That is astonishing. You want
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: to talk about the NFL just murdering, And yes, it's
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: one day, it's one particular moment of time during the year.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I meanwhile, the World Series, you have several games, Stanley
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Cup Finals, NBA Finals, same thing, several games. However, it
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: just goes to show what this particular sport means, I
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: should say American sport means, not only here in this country,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: but throughout the world as well. I mean, the NFL
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: is truly king. Eric.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in light of like the Luca trade and all
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: the stories that came out of that, I'm bringing this
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: up because Mark Cuban had a quote a couple of
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: like ten years ago when he actually thought the NBA
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: was going to overtake the popularity of the NFL, and
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: he said, pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered, meaning like
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: the NFL is too greedy or whatever. He obviously was
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: wrong there, but I thought that was an interesting quote
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: that I heard during the whole look at things. He
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: was dead wrong, and it is amazing. One hundred and
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: twenty six million viewers. I still can't believe more people
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: watch the Stanley Cup Finals in the NBA Finals but
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: me because it's like an entire country of Canada will
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: soon to be America by the way.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: So yes, annex Canada folks. If we have any Canadian
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: listeners up there, we welcome, Welcome to America.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Hey, burn your flags now we're coming. You're going to
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: be in the fifty first Star. Yeah, great, So two
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: thoughts on that. Honestly, the NFL is king of all
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: that stuff, and it's just it's how it's always going
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: to be. As an NBA fan, I remember when I
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: was younger, I was always used to be like, man,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: it's annoying, like, oh can't we It's just what it is.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: What it is.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: I like my league and I'm just gonna watch it.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: But like two thoughts. One, how did they properly track
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: these numbers with streaming and everything? And I really don't
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying the numbers aren't right, right, I'm just
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: at a point where I'm like, one hundred and twenty
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: six million viewers. I believe it.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: You're like, put, did they inflate it by forty million?
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: It could have been it could be not, it could
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: be eighty eight. Yeah, and I would have no idea.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, that's a high number. They could say
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: two hundred and forty million. I'd be like, sure, right right.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I think they through Hulu though, Yeah, because we were
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: watching at my house on Hulu. I think you know,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Hulu's able to track how many folks are watching. Are
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: those other sites maybe too? I don't know. I don't know,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: but I was.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: I was a telecom major in college. Yes, and this
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: is when they still there was no streaming back then.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: That's how old I am.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: And yeah, Catherine ray Tubes.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Not that old. You couldn't get cancer from the TV
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: you're watching. I'm not that old, But like it is
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: bizarre to me. They like, you used to get the
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Nielsen books, They sent you to your house and they
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: put like five bucks in there, Yeah, to entice you
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: to like fill it out and going. I watched mash
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: last night at this time to what it is now,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: technology is amazing. I know they can track this stuff
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: much better, probably technologically. But at the same time, you know,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: if in one TV in the other room, I have
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: the super Bowl TV, I'm watching Netflix.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like exactly.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just strange to me. I don't
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: know how to attract these numbers. And just on a
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: personal note, this is another point I have. I did
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: see a couple of commercials aired after the super Bowl.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Ooh television, Ooh did you they weren't just during the
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: super Bowl.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Got to get my wife to listen to this segment, folks,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Eric is right dicing. For some reason, my wife went
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: insane during the Super Bowl and was insisting that the
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: commercials that we were watching the popular super Bowl commercials.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: It's a once and done thing, that's it. They are
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: only shown during the super Bowl and then never again.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there telling her, I'm like, no, that's
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: not how it works. I'm like a number of times
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: over the years, I have seen commercials that have aired
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: during the Super Bowl and in subsequent weeks you see
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: the same commercials airing again. A production company is not
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: a company in general, like Dorito's or a car commercial.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: They're not going to They're not going to generate a
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: commercial probably for hundreds of thousands of dollars, just to
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: never air it again.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Millions of dollars. Many these commercials are like, yes, it
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: was really funny watching the two like we were arguing.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I'm even arguing her, like her going, I'm trying to
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: watch this commercial. I'm never going to see it again. Yeah,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: and you're going, it's gonna be on again. No way,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: they're not going to share this again for all the
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: money they put into it. They'd paid a lot of
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: money to show it at this time, but like you're
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: definitely gonna see it again, yep. And she's just like no, Jeff, Nope,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: I'm just like watching going.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: You and your wife were looking at each other like
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: listen to these two idiots.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: No. No, it was more like, yeah, how do you
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: argue with that? Somebody's right not going to happen, Like
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: it's just it really was.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, it really was one of those moments of yeah,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: you know what, Yeah, the sky really is green. You know,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: the sky's red. And I'm like, no, no, n it's
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: it's it's blue. No, no, no, no, no, the sky is green. No, Jeff, exactly, Okay,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see one of these commercials.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: The next week, it was that annoying Rocket Mortgage one.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: I'll just go into it quick. I know it's political,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: but like Rocket Mortgage, there's a there's a plane full
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: of vetsy singing lah, yeah and what and then they
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: cut to a guy crying who just bought his first
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: house and you're supposed to have like its supposed to
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: be a teared, jerking, heart wrenching moment. And then it
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: cuts to Rocket Mortgage and you're like, oh, isn't that
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: the isn't that the one of the companies that like
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: help sink the entire economy in two thousand and eight, Yeah,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: sub prime mortgages.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, Yep, they're back.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Let's go get an ad agency, Let's get some crying
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: veterans and like and some babies being held like I'm
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: washing you in the time. It's like, oh my god,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: stop with the property. Yeah.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's a good way, good way to end this
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: segment here and uh, before I let you go here,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna be talking to Mark Schofield and just
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: a bit getting into this Eagle season kind of a
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: recap and where the team goes from here. Buddy, appreciate
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: you jumping on. You got anything else before I let
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: you go here?
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe we should just not do Sixers talk the rest
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: of the year.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, man, I was. I was honestly thinking
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: about it. But like, I'm getting the schedule ready for
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: next week. Folks, we're gonna be talking to so next
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: next week's regular show that'll be dropping next Thursday. We're
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: thrown down on the table. It's gonna be a Sixers person.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a guy covering the Sixers. I'm like,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I'm like, we gotta do it. Even he texted me
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: back and he was like, he's like, boy, they really
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: stink right now. I'm not sure what we're gonna talk about.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: And I said, we'll figure it out, dude.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: That's like being a janitor. You're going, you know, say,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: clean up of school. You go in that's a little dirty,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: you mop up the like the cafeteria going the next
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: day and there's four toilet four toilets overflown, yes, diary everywhere,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: It's like, what the hell, Come on, man, they're the
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: second day of the janitor's life.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: They really are. They are they are the diarrhea. Yes,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: all right, buddy, I'm gonna let you go. We are
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break, everybody. We will be back
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: in just a bit. All right, we're back. It's getting
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: some Eagles talk recap this season and how this team
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: is going to be looking down the road. It's what
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: we're thrown down on the table and now on the
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: table and joining us to get into what this Eagles
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: season was, what it meant where this team and organization
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: are going to be going in the future. We have
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: from SB Nation. You know, we love our SB nation sites,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: but he does some great work over there, whether it's
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: writing about the NFL, writing about F one as well.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: We have the one and only Mark Schofield. Buddy, how
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: are you, my friend?
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Not as good as you? I know that I've always thought.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: And this is because the first time the Patriots won
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: a Super Bowl, it was probably over for like a week. Yeah,
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: if your team went to super Bowl, you get like
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: the next week off, like the next week like nothing matters,
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: time doesn't matter. It's like that week between you know,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: at the end of the year. But joy Christmas and
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: New Year's where like you're eating cheese in the morning,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: like you're eating stakes, like you up is down, left
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: is right, Like everything's jumbled. It's just say it for
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: you right now. Your team wins to super Bowl, you
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: get a week and just do whatever you want.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. It's it's I don't know
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: if it still hasn't like hit me yet or I'm
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: still like coming down from it. I'm hoping to go
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: to the parade, and I know we're recording this, some
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: people are gonna hear this this audio probably after the parade.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Not one hundred percent sure if I'm gonna go to
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: the parade, because the logistical nightmare it is going to
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: be getting in and out of Philadelphia. But man, what
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: a feeling, What a feeling it is. And as a
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Patriots fan, you know that feeling. You had seven of them,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: you know, within our modern contemporary history here. But I
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe the Eagles won it in the manner
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: that they did and now I kind of wanted to
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: like get into some reflections of this game, reflecting on
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: this Super Bowl from this past week and the the
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: sheer total domination by the Eagles taken down the reigning champs,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, and just the fact that we
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: actually saw Patrick Mahomes have a monumental chow job of
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: mass proportions base which I can say, like for the
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: first time, Wow, Patrick Mahomes really ended up choking. I'm
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: not trying to be mean or anything, you know, I'm
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: not trying to be mean. That's what we saw in
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: the field. I'm wondering, Mark, how you have been reflecting
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: on this particular Super Bowl. As someone who loves the
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: game of football so much enjoys the NFL product, what
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: are your overall thoughts when you reflect on this past
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's a great question, and there's
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: probably eight million different ways you could go with that.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, just somebody as a neutral observer
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: of that game, it wasn't the best product. Yeah, I say,
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: if you're somebody, it's you know, sixty six Park Avenue
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: in New York City at the NFL League offices. You're like, well,
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: you know, that wasn't the game we were hoping for, right,
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is a thirty four to nothing game
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: with two minutes to go in the third quarter. I mean,
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: ultimately they win by eighteen, but it was never that close.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: And it's interested in watching the game with friends and family,
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: and I had to remind them that, like super Bowls
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: used to be like this. I mean, blowouts used to
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: be the norm. Yeah, you know, Bears Patriots in Super
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Bowl twenty Yeah, you know, obviously forty nine Ors Broncos
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: fifty five to ten. I mean, blowouts were one point
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: the norm. You would get excited for a Super Bowl
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: to be over by the second quarter. And so we've
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: been spoiled in recent years with a lot of really
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: good games. Last Year's going to overtime, for example, first
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: one under the new rules, and so blowouts were kind
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: of the norm, I think. And we talked about this
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: briefly before we hit the record button. You know, I
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: said this on a lot of shows last week going
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: into this game, that I thought, look, a Chief's three
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: point win, you know, one score win was probably a
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: likely scenario. But I think the second likely scenario after
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: that was an Eagles blowout. But the way this game
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: in particular unfolded, I don't think anybody saw this coming, right, Yeah,
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Because if you would have told me, like, yeah, the
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Eagles are going to win this game by three scorers,
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: I would have said, Yeah, saq one's going to go off.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: He's gonna run for two hundred yards, right, They're gonna
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Mahomes is gonna be a spectator. He's gonna be watching
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: the game basically for the rest of us, because the
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: Eagles are gonna dominate time of possession. And you know,
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: when he has the ball, he'll make some plays, but
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: he won't have the ball a ton and that's the
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: recipe for an Eagles blowout. That's not the way this unfolded.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: This unfolded with that defense smothering him with while Kansas
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: City slowed Saquan down. Jalen Hurts had a very good game,
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: very you know, he had the one mistake, but I
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: thought a very efficient, effective game.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: He was poised and we'll get into him a little
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: very poisoned.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So it was a gay a score that
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: we perhaps saw coming, but the way it unfolded, we
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: absolutely did not see this coming. And I think Ultimately,
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: it's it's vindications for the people that can like money.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: I do this all the time. You get on a
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: show before a big game, you say, well, you know,
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: if this defense can get pressure with four, you know
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: that's the recipe to win. Right, That's exactly what happened. Right,
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: It's sweet vindication for that old stock answer of yeah,
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: you know, if the Patriots gonna get pressure with or
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: if the Giants can get pressure with four and Tom Brady,
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: they're gonna win this game. That's exactly what happened. That
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: didn't blitze once. By the numbers, it's incredible. You get
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: the interceptions, you get the fumble like pressure with Fodge
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: dropping seven in the coverage made it a numbers game
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: and it's one that Mahomes couldn't win.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Yep. Well, we talked or you briefly mentioned Jalen Hurts
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: quarterback position here for the Philadelphia Eagles, and I really
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: want to get into Jalen Hurts as a quarterback now
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: that he's a Super Bowl MVP, and and really how
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: he has grown throughout this season and really what you
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: have seen Mark. You know, being a former college quarterback yourself,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: you understand quarterback evaluation. We've talked a number of times
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: on this podcast platform about quarterback evaluations, and I'd even
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: like to talk about where he even needs to get
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: better down the road, because I'm still not sure we've
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: actually seen his ceiling yet at this point. You may disagree.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: He's certainly not a perfect quarterback, but we've seen a
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: lot of growth in Jalen Hurts, not just this season,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: but over the years as well. So first, how should
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: we or how should the world of football now be
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: looking at Jalen Hurts as a quarterback after this Super
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Bowl performance and overall the season he had.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, let's let's start with numbers, right, We've
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: always we've talked over the years, Jeff about how the
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: starting quarterback fraternity is a very small group. He gets
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: thirty two of them. Not too many people get to
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: do that list of Super Bowl whening quarterbacks are smaller still,
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: thirty five I think is the number. I looked it
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: up before we hopped on this morning. So he's a
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: member of that fraternity, and most of the members of
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: that frat get into the Super Bowl, I mean, not
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, the Hall of Fame. They're in Canton,
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: and i'd grudgingly admit that Eli Manning will join that
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: group soon. You know, whether it's two years from now,
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: three years from now, whatever, he's going to face a
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: bit of a backlog. What another one, Drew Brees probably
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: joins next year, and certainly Tom Brady after that. And
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: so he's in that group now, which speaks for itself,
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: I think, and I think with respect to how he
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: played this season, he saved his two best games for last. Yeah,
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: you know, she looked. The Rainer posted about it yesterday,
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: had an article about it. I wrote this in the postgame,
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: like in the thirty minutes after the game itself. His
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: two best games of the year were the NFC Championship
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: game and the Super Bowl itself. You know, she looked
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: at EPA part play. I was just looking up your
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: efficiency numbers in film, you know, because I didn't have
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: the EPA numbers when I wrote Sunday Night. But those
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: were his two best games, and you know, you look
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: at how efficient he was, particularly when I keep coming
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: back to that fourth and five play against the Commanders
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: before halftime, when he gets blitzed, you know, confident decision
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: hits Aj Brown up the left sideline for a big play.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: They finished that drive with a touchdown. You know, you
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: look at some of the throws made he made on
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: Sunday night, some of the decisions he made. You know,
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: one of my favorite play calls from the entire season
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: was Kellen Moore going to the deep shot, you know
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: from midfield, when Kevin Burkhart was literally in the booth
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: as the ball was beatsnap saying, Eagle's probably just gonna
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: work some clock here with Saquon Barkley, they go deep
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: shot to brought this to the touchdown game over. I mean,
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: it was just brilliant from Kellen Moore. Hurts played his
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: two best of the year and the two biggest games
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: of the season. So I think that speaks volumes now
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: as to where he can still improve. Pressure, blitz, sim
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: pressures like those are the areas I still want to
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: see him improve because and we talked about this this season, right,
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: you know, the numbers against the pressure, the numbers against
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: sim pressures that that game against the rams of the
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: division around. I know Weather played something of a role there.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: I know his knee played something of a role there
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: because he was banned up a bit. But when he
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: got hit, when they got hit with sim pressures. It
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: wasn't good, it wasn't efficient like he needed to. And
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: it's more than just the quarterback obviously, like you need
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: guys to read it out up front two. But that's
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: an area where I still think Jalen Hurts can improve.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: And you know, we talked this year, and I know
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: we're going to talk about some specifics maybe in a minute,
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: but there were moments this year where it was like
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: you could tell they sat him down and said, look,
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: our run game is awesome, our offensive line is awesome. Yeah,
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: defense is really good and getting better every week. Just
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: don't make mistakes, right, right. He had moments throughout this season.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: We talked about some specific ones during the regular season
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: where if it's a TI gor tie score in the
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl, you're probably making that throw. Other NFL quarterbacks
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: are probably making that throw with different situations around them.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: But he didn't need to take chances on throws into
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: tighter coverage, on throws that were NFL open, or on
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: throws outside the numbers, because you know, punted it and
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: letting that defense play probably a good decision. You know,
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: throw it away and get into third and three or
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: whatever it is. You know, if you were on third
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: and two or a second to two or something like that,
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: probably a good decision with that offensive line with Saquon
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: because you know, even if you just get two yards,
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: you're lined up for tousch push on fourth and one
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: and you're getting a freshout of downs. And so he
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: was playing conservative I think throughout the season because of
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: the situation around him, other quarterbacks probably making those throws.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: And so specifically, i'd like to see him get better
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: in those tim pressure blitz moments because it's an area
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: of his game. I still think he can improve holistically
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: if he has to be agressive. Next year of situations
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: out the same I'd like to to see him be
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: a bit more aggressive.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: All right, very good. Well, we're talking about the moments,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: the moments this season with regard to Hurts, and I'm wondering,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: what you know, were there moments this season where you'd
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: watch Jalen Hurts and say to yourself, man, this guy
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: is really struggling. It's not getting the ball out of
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: his hand when he needs to, or you know, not
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: sure if this is the guy. Because I'll tell you
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: right now, we were asking some moment. We were asking
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: those questions too. On this podcast, there were a lot
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: of folks asking questions every now and again, week by week,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: even though they were winning. Man Jalen Hurts really struggled,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: you know, is he the guy to really take this
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: team to where we want in the future. But then
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: you see him rebound, You see him do some special things,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: those intangible things that we know that he has within him.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: I guess what I'm asking here is, were you ever
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: a big doubter of Jalen Hurts And was there a
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: moment when you saw something different in him to kind
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: of change that perspective.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: Wasn't so much that I was a doubter. You know,
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: you mentioned, you know, my own quarterback career, and you know,
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: playing in high school, playing Division III in college doesn't
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: really you know, I'm not exactly playing on Super Bowl Sunday.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: But what I saw is and I take that Carolina
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: game in the regular season as an example of this,
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: and I really I saw a lot of myself in
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: those moments, because there were moments in that game where
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: other aggressive NFL quarterbacks are going to make throws where
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: he didn't try them. And even one of his bigger
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: plays in that game, he had an opportunity for a
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: throw over the middle, ended up bailing from a clean pocket,
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: and I think hit DeVonta Smith up the weft sideline
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: for a big game. But it's still I don't need
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: to risk this now. For me, it was I don't
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: want to risk this because I don't want to lose
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: my job. I don't want to get benched. I'm looking
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: over my shoulder. For Hurts, I think it was really
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: what we talked about him a few minutes ago, which
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: is the situation around you is so good. That defense
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: is very good, our run game is very good. Saquon
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: is playing at an elite level. Our offensive line is tremendous.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: Like if you aren't one hundred percent sure of something,
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: if you're ninety eight percent sure of something, throw it away,
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: throw it away like it's it's fine. We can live
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: with that. So I think it was more just the
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: surrounding circumstance for Jalen Hurts. This year was a very
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: good situation for him. He didn't need to take chances.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: But as we got deeper into the season, as we
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: got to know that out of c Championship game, as
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: we got to Super Bowl Sunday, he started to take
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: some more chances. He started to open it up a bit,
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: because as you get deeper into the season, the level
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: of plays increase, the talents on the other side of
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: the ball decrease. You have to start taking those chances.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: And he was able to do that. And it kind
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: of flies in the face of something I've always thought
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: about quarterback play, which is it's hard to dial up
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: the aggression. It's easier to sort of take a step back.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: He sort of showed that you can do that. You
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: can get more aggressive when you need to as a
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: quarterback if you've been conservative in the past. And so,
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't so much that I ever doubted him.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: It was okay, you know, I understand the context of
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: the situation around you. You're in a very good position.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: You've got great talent around you, elite talent around you.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: You're in a very good place as a quarterback. But
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: can you be aggressive when you need to? And he
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: showed that to the last two games of the season.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And to our listeners out there, we're not crapping
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: on Jalen Hurts right here. I want to be very clear,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: you know, for our listeners that listened to our postgame
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: podcast shows over the entire season. You know, we gave
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts some very honest grades and that's what we're
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: talking about here. And what Mark is saying that growth
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: that we saw, that aggressiveness towards the end of the season.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: That's what is important and leads me to believe that
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts can do more on the field in the
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: coming seasons. And it remains to be seen how that
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: all manifests itself and plays out, but I personally believe
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: that he definitely has an even higher ceiling. But Marcus,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: we're moving along with a conversation here. I want to
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: talk about the offense and I want to get into
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: some ratings here with you do a little something fun,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: something we don't normally do on PST podcast show. So
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: if you had to rate the aspects of this Eagles
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: offense in terms of the quot least important to the
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: most important, how would you rate them? Number one being
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: the most important? So we can go through the quarterback,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: offensive line, the running backs, the receivers, because there's always
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: a debate and there has been. Of course, we know
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley and his importance. We know Jalen Hurts and
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: how important he was in terms of his aggressiveness, like
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: we were just talking about toward the latter part of
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: the season. Then the offensive line, I mean, they were
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: a weapon themselves. And of course when you have receivers
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: like aj Brown, Devonte Smith and even Dallas Godder being
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: able to make those critical third down conversions, you certainly
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: have weapons on this team. But in terms of importance.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: And it may be unfair for me to ask, you
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: know how important this position is or this particular player,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: but we're still gonna do it. I think it's gonna
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: be fun. So if you had to rate them again,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: number one being most important, would you go with the quarterback,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: offensive line, running back, or receivers. How would you rate
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: all of these units and players?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go, you know me, I want to take
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: the coward's way out and say that they're all equally important. Fantastic,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: But that doesn't make for good that doesn't make for
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: a good pluck, right, I start with you. I honestly
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: think the offensive lot is the most important piece here.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. I am glad we're together with this. YEP.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: I think at the end of the show we're going
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: to talk big picture you know, wider lens type of stuff.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: But I really think that this Eagles team, you know,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: and this is something that JP Acosta and Eyed Estimination
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: have been talking about for a couple of years now,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: the return of big boy football. We've been saying that, Look,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: this game is cyclical, you know, schemes come around full circle.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: With all of the importance of the passing game over
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: the past say, ten twelve years, there is going to
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: be a point of diminishing returns because defenses will start
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: playing two deep quarters. They'll be rushing three, they'll be
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: rushing four. They'll be so worried about eliminating and then
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: taking away big plays that they will come a point
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: where the balance tips and suddenly it's the run game
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: in the offensive line that matter. Aton and I think
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: that the Eagles, you know, one of one of, not
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: the but one of the ultimate stories of this Eagles
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: team and the season is what they were able to
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: do on the ground with that offensive line in Sague
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: one Barkley and so I think it starts with that
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: offensive line, which is such a good, cohesive and incredibly
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: talented group. So I think they deserve a ton of
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: credit for what this team was able to accomplish this year,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: you know, and then and then from there, you know,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: I would have sai Quana Jalen as like, you know,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: two on the same level. That's fair, You'll be like,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: I think they'd work. A lot of what they do
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: goes hand in hand. And I think an understated part
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: of that game Sunday Night is what Jalen was able
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: to do with his legs. Yeah, you know, because they
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: couldn't get Saquan going, but Jalen picked up seventy two
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: yards on the ground and they had some runs, particularly
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: in the second half of that game, to extend drives,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: work clock things like that. There was a great play
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: where you know, he caught the Chiefs in man coverage
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: and he just talked and away and picked him a
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: first out. And so I think the two of them
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: are very complimentary, you know, in terms of schematics, certainly
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: what they can do in the run games, zone read
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: and things like that. You know, So I'd have them,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: you know, tied for two. And then I think the
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: receivers are three on this list. And it's not to
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: say that, look, they aren't a great group, because they are,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: so have to say that they weren't important to this
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: team's success because they were. It's not to say that
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: aj Brown is not one of the best characters in
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: this entire sport, because he is between you know, reading
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: the book on the sidelines, which is fantastic. Yeah to
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: the post on social media in just the past couple
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: of hours where he's talking about the hunt and just
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: giving credits to Denny Carter's in fast incredible tweet about
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: you know, tweets by position groups and quarterbacks and wide receivers.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: I'm saying divergently different things. Wide receivers saying things like
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: Theannam seeks softly but carries a knife, and wide receivers
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: all post like that on social media. It's brown latest
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: example of it. But I do think it really Jeff
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: started with that offensive line. Yes, and we're getting into
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: the offseason, we're getting into the draft season, a free
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: agency and thirty one other team's gonna look at how
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: the Eagles one say, how can we replicate that? So
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: I think you're gonna see teams spend big along the
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: offensive line of free agency, teams draft along the offensive
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: line when it comes draft time, and Ashton Jenks is
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: probably gonna go in the top ten or twelve picks
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: because people are gonna say, how do we get our
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: Saquan Yeah, and they're gonna look at them in the
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: draft and try to do it that way. And so
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: I think this Eagles team is that offense you know,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: NFL football comeing full circle kind of moment, and it
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: starts with that offensive line, and we're gonna see teams
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: try to replicate that this offseason.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Again, folks were talking to Mark Scofield from SB Nation
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: head over to SP Nation. Fantastic content always and Mark,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: I know you're on Blue Sky, buddy, right, people can
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: just search out Mark Schofield. I think you're over on
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: threads as well.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: Correct, Mark Scofield three nine one six on Threads. Mark
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: Scofield on Blue Sky. Yeah, I mean those are the
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: two fun plow now they are. Oh you you can
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: find me there?
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: All right, sounds good. But let's move over to the defense.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: It is really astonishing how Vic Fangio in this defensive
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: coaching staff took a bottom of the barrel defense from
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: last season, completely altered the trajectory of the entire unit.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: It's a unit that has grown and grown and grown
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: over the season. You lose Brandon Graham, He's able to
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: come back for the final game, not only of the season,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: but the Super Bowl, the final game of his career.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: So many amazing storylines with regard to this defense all
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: year and its growth, and even as free agency is
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: going to be here before we know it. You just
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: mentioned free agency, Mark, how should we be looking at
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: this Eagles defense defense from here on out? Uh, in
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: terms of a powerhouse that they could potentially be in
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: the future next season and even beyond.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot to be
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: excited about if you're an Egos fan with respect to
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: this defense. I mean, you're gonna lose Brandon Graham, you know, obviously, Yeah,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna hand them out and deservedly so,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: and potentially a Hall of Fame player. I think you
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: might lose Josh Wett, you know, because he's entered free agency,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: just hired a new representation. You probably gonna get a
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: big deal. And I think you'll probably do whatever you
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: can to get Zach Blond back because I think he's,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: you know, showed that at the heart of that defense.
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  Speaker 3: He can certainly do tremendous things. But you've got a
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  Speaker 3: lot of interest in young talent, particularly in the secondary,
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  Speaker 3: and so I think there's a lot to be excited about.
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  Speaker 3: And this is a defense that quick study started off slowly,
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  Speaker 3: you had to early buy really kicked into gears since then.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, if you can get you know, whether
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  Speaker 3: it's via the draft, you know, second third tier free agency,
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  Speaker 3: another pass rusher to offset the loss of sweat, the
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  Speaker 3: expected loss of sweat, you're going to be able to
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  Speaker 3: do what they did in the Super Bowl, which is
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  Speaker 3: get pressure four. And you know that is such a
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  Speaker 3: game changer for an offense, I mean for defense. Excuse me.
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  Speaker 3: You know that plays into how Vic Fangiel wants to
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  Speaker 3: do things. I think a lot of it also stems
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  Speaker 3: from having those two guys in the interior, Davis and Carter.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they're just game wreckers on the inside, and
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  Speaker 3: it changes everything you have to do as an offensive line.
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  Speaker 3: When you're centering guards you know, can't really help out
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  Speaker 3: too much on the outside, and now you're getting one
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  Speaker 3: on ones for guys like Sweat like Smith, you know,
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  Speaker 3: on the edge. It's a huge, huge butterfly efflect along
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  Speaker 3: that defensive front. And so it's a defense that I
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  Speaker 3: think obviously we got better as of the season one on.
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  Speaker 3: You know, when you got young guys like Degi, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Cooper getting a pick six on a Super Bowl or
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  Speaker 3: his birthday. I mean storybook type stuff. I mean, you've
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  Speaker 3: got these young guys in the secondary that are playing
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  Speaker 3: extremely well, and you know, I think it's just testament
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  Speaker 3: to how they've built this roster, testament to Vic Fangio.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the decision too ident And this is the
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  Speaker 3: one that really reminds me a lot of that Patriots
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  Speaker 3: run that Patriots donasty. The Zach Bond moved to highlight
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  Speaker 3: and this is a theme we've talked about over the years.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me what he can do right right? You know,
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  Speaker 3: the Saints we're using him on the edge, using him
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  Speaker 3: as a pass rusher, and they looked at him and said, look,
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  Speaker 3: this guy's an off ball linebacker. Get him in our building.
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  Speaker 3: He's an off ball linebacker. He'll be great. It's very
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  Speaker 3: similar to the like the Kyle Van Noys sound and
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  Speaker 3: where you know, New England looked at how he's being
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  Speaker 3: used in the right said no, no, no, we can
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  Speaker 3: do something bigger with him. And that was so reminiscent
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  Speaker 3: of those Patriots runs. And so I think if you're
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  Speaker 3: an Eagles fan, you look at this defense, you can't
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  Speaker 3: help but be excited about the future.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Well, Mark, before I let you go, Buddy, wanted
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  Speaker 1: to talk about this Eagles team from a more macro standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, expanding that lens a bit overall,
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  Speaker 1: Where do you think this Eagles team will be ranked?
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  Speaker 1: When you know, football enthusiasts years and years down the
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  Speaker 1: road look at the history of NFL teams, this particular
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  Speaker 1: NFL team, or this particular Eagles team in the twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four twenty twenty five season, how do you think
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  Speaker 1: history should look at this Eagles team?
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  Speaker 3: You know, honestly, that's a tough question to answer right now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but I think with the benefit of time, we're going
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  Speaker 3: to look back on this Eagles team if what I
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  Speaker 3: think is happening truly ends up happening, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: the game comes full circle when we see run game,
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  Speaker 3: offensive line, things like that become more and more important
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  Speaker 3: prominent over these next couple of years, people are going
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  Speaker 3: to point to this team as the one that's sort
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  Speaker 3: of changing the game, right Yeah, Like you think about
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  Speaker 3: other Super Bowl winners, like I think about one and
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  Speaker 3: the Niners beat the Bengals in Super Bowl sixteen, and
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  Speaker 3: it was the start of that Niners run. That was
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  Speaker 3: sort of the start of West Coast offense, Bill Walsh
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  Speaker 3: and all of that which then became, you know, spread
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  Speaker 3: throughout the league. That was the wave of offensive football
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  Speaker 3: that changed the sort of eighties and early nineties. And
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, a lot of people look at
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  Speaker 3: the later Niners teams like the team that you know
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  Speaker 3: beat you know, Dan Marino in the Super Bowl and
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  Speaker 3: some of those you know, the fifty five to ten team,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, this team to beat the Bengals in
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  Speaker 3: the second go round as a sort of heart and
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  Speaker 3: soul of that Niners run. But it was really that
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  Speaker 3: first team that started that new era of offensive football.
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  Speaker 3: And I think we might see something similar with his
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  Speaker 3: Eagles team. So steam here right now. A lot, I
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: know a lot of people have said, like Dvoa and
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  Speaker 3: other things like this wasn't a great super Bowl team
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  Speaker 3: or whatever, and they were ranked like in the thirtieth,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: the thirties or all the teams that have won Super Bowls,
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  Speaker 3: And maybe that's in a fair assessment right now by
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: the numbers for the moment but I think as we
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  Speaker 3: get to three four years down the road, and if
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  Speaker 3: this trend of you know, NFL evolution that I think
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: is coming does eventually happen, we'll look back at this
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  Speaker 3: Eagles team and say, yeah, this is the team that
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  Speaker 3: changed the game for the next ten to fifteen to
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: twenty years. And so I think with the hindsight of time,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: we'll eventually look back at this Eagles team and say
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  Speaker 3: that's like, yeah, they were one of the most important
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: teams in football history because of the way that they
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: set us up for the next twenty years of NFL football.
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  Speaker 1: One of the reasons I love football. It's always changing,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: always evolving, and it's great to be able to talk
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: to you, my friend about this again, folks. Mark Schofield
• 1:11:35
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• 1:11:39
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• 1:11:41
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• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: Let's do it in another point down the road, my friend.
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  Speaker 3: Looking forward to what all right? And my friend, and
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: congratulations again. Look you're still in the base of Super
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: Bowl week. Enjoy it up is down each cheese for breakfast,
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