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#626 I'll Do Better Tomorrow · Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families

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  Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families Podcast. It's the podcast for.
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  Speaker 2: The time poor parent who just answers. Now.
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  Speaker 1: They came to me and said, what happens if you've
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  Speaker 1: got a rock in a microwave. I'm like, I dunn, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I want to know, and they're like,
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  Speaker 1: we can we I'm like, just make it thirty.
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  Speaker 2: Seconds and now here's the scars of our show.
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  Speaker 1: My mum and dad. We so appreciate you jumping on
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  Speaker 1: about the podcast. We've had some reviews come through recently,
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  Speaker 1: and we haven't talked to that a lot lately, Kylie,
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  Speaker 1: but people have been really really nice about the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that we're doing on the Happy Families Podcast. It's making
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  Speaker 1: a difference. Like Shona who just jumped on the other
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  Speaker 1: day and said, this podcast is like a safety net.
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  Speaker 1: When I feel like I'm failing and struggling in motherhood,
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  Speaker 1: this podcast catches me up and helps me back up.
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  Speaker 1: Justin and Kylie are so warm and comforting to listen to,
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  Speaker 1: and I love that they keep it real with their listeners.
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  Speaker 1: Very grateful I found this podcast, Shona. We're so grateful
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  Speaker 1: your time, Like there's so much choice out there. We
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  Speaker 1: really appreciate that you're here and that you're a part
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  Speaker 1: of The Happy Family's podcast. We also got some feedback, Kylie,
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  Speaker 1: and this was about your last week. Your O'll do
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  Speaker 1: better Tomorrow came from Janine. Can I read this because
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  Speaker 1: this was the one that I felt like it was
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  Speaker 1: one of the best things you've ever done on the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: and it was certainly better than anything I've ever done
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  Speaker 1: on the podcast. It was so so good, And Janine
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  Speaker 1: just said, well, I love every podcast you share, but
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  Speaker 1: this one has been hard to listen to, and I
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  Speaker 1: felt the need to respond. Not that I like starting
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  Speaker 1: the day with tears. Kylie's incredibly emotional podcast was like
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  Speaker 1: no other. As with every episode, there is so much
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  Speaker 1: to explore, reflect, enjoy, ponder. Despite being very confronting at times.
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  Speaker 1: The topics discussed give me a yearning for more, and
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  Speaker 1: then she says, quite simply, you, Kylie, are awesome. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you just seems so not enough. How nice is that?
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  Speaker 1: So thank you, Janine, And then there was a ps
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  Speaker 1: at the end. I've stopped crying. Now. We are so
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  Speaker 1: glad that you appreciate the podcast, and we love that
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  Speaker 1: you listen. That's why we do it because we want
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  Speaker 1: to We want to share our insights and our learnings
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  Speaker 1: so that we can help you to make your family happier.
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  Speaker 1: I had a learning this week, and it's not my experience.
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  Speaker 1: It's just something that really hit me, really hit me hard.
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  Speaker 1: And what it was was like, I've been doing this
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  Speaker 1: for twenty years now. I've been researching, studying, being intentional
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  Speaker 1: or trying to become a better dad, and sharing ways
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  Speaker 1: that people can make their families happier for twenty years.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like in the last couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot of stuff has just suddenly started to
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  Speaker 1: make sense. I feel like I'm seeing things in parenting
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  Speaker 1: now that I've never seen before. I feel like I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting stuff as a parent that I've never gotten before,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just been so magic. I'm so grateful for
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  Speaker 1: the challenging times that our kids give us because I'm
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  Speaker 1: seeing something in me and something in you as we
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  Speaker 1: have the challenges that we have, that we're getting stuff right,
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  Speaker 1: we're getting stuff better. Does that make sense, Yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 2: The reason you're feeling like you've had this AHA moment
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  Speaker 2: isn't because you haven't seen it before. It's the fact
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  Speaker 2: that it's finally starting to click. All of that intentional
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  Speaker 2: practice that you've been doing for the last twenty years,
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  Speaker 2: as you've been reading and learning and growing, is finally
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  Speaker 2: starting to become habitual. It's finally starting to just be
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  Speaker 2: a natural part of what you do, as opposed to
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  Speaker 2: that taking conscious twenty years though painful effort.
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  Speaker 1: But it's still painful. But like case in point, the
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  Speaker 1: other night, one of the kids was just having the
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  Speaker 1: worst time. She was tired, she was angry, she was
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  Speaker 1: being vitriolic to her sisters. It was the house felt hostile.
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  Speaker 1: It was not what our house is about, and it's
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  Speaker 1: not what the culture of our family is about. And
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  Speaker 1: so badly, and I hope I can say this without
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  Speaker 1: people judging me the wrong way, but I so badly
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  Speaker 1: kind of just wanted to bang ahead against the wall
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  Speaker 1: so that she'd go to sleep. I'm not saying that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying that in jest. I would never ever do that,
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  Speaker 1: but was I was like, just stop it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to deal with this. That's what was happening internally.
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  Speaker 1: I'll do whatever I can to just stop the pain,
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  Speaker 1: because right now you're being a pain and we need
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  Speaker 1: to stop it. But I didn't do any of those things. Instead,
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  Speaker 1: I said, we just need to go for a walk.
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  Speaker 1: And we went for a walk, and while we were walking,
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  Speaker 1: I said, you're having a horrible time, but I love
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  Speaker 1: you no matter what you can do and say whatever
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  Speaker 1: you need to to me or to Mum or to
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  Speaker 1: your sisters, and it won't stop me loving you. I absolutely, unconditionally,
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  Speaker 1: completely in every way love you, and I won't not
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  Speaker 1: love you just because you're having a bad night. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't get her in trouble for doing the wrong things.
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  Speaker 1: She already knew it was wrong, and I had this insight.
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  Speaker 1: My job where my child is suffering, when my child
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  Speaker 1: is being challenged, is not to add to her challenge.
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  Speaker 1: It's not to add to her suffering. My job is
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  Speaker 1: to relieve that suffering or help her to find a
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  Speaker 1: way through it, and just going for that walk and
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  Speaker 1: spending that time gently reaffirming the unconditionality of my love
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  Speaker 1: for her. Oh my goodness said. She came back and
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  Speaker 1: she sobbed in a room for a few minutes, but
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  Speaker 1: then she came out and joined the family, and she
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  Speaker 1: was a different kid. And I'm sure, I'm absolutely convinced
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  Speaker 1: that that is the answer to all of our parenting problems.
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  Speaker 1: Being able to do it is super hard, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to pretend that it's easy in any way,
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  Speaker 1: shape or form. But that's been that's been a massive
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  Speaker 1: insight for me, and I'm so grateful for what our
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  Speaker 1: kids teach us about ourselves. But anyway, that's not what
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  Speaker 1: the purpose of well, I guess it kind of is
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  Speaker 1: what our old bed it Tomorrow was all about. But
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  Speaker 1: that's not the story I was going to share. I
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  Speaker 1: want to share mine in a sense.
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  Speaker 2: So you're cheating, You're I want to share two.
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  Speaker 1: Stories, totally totally cheating, But you're going to go first,
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  Speaker 1: because ladies before gentlemen, even though I just kind of
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  Speaker 1: went first, but good to I think so.
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  Speaker 2: Earlier in the week, we had a massive deluge of rain.
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  Speaker 1: Hasn't been way home, and oh my goodness.
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  Speaker 2: Emily found herself outside in her swimmers, jumping in puddles
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  Speaker 2: and just having a.
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  Speaker 1: Ball, ruining my lawn.
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  Speaker 2: And at one point she found a little lizard and
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  Speaker 2: decided that she was going to be this lizard's mum,
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  Speaker 2: and so literally for the entire afternoon, her and the
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  Speaker 2: next door neighbor were warming up rocks in the microwaves.
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  Speaker 1: It's so funny. They came to me and said, what
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  Speaker 1: happens if you put a rock in the microwave. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not sure if I want to know,
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  Speaker 1: and they're like, can we can we I'm like, ah,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even ask why. I'm like, yeah, right, I
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  Speaker 1: just make it thirty seconds. And they've done it thirty seconds.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, it's warm. What happens if we do sixty seconds?
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's a rock, what can really go wrong?
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  Speaker 1: They're putting water on the rock. Then they're putting the
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  Speaker 1: rock in the microwave, heating it up, so after sixty
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  Speaker 1: seconds they pull it and they're like, oh, that's really warm, Dad,
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  Speaker 1: feel this. I'm like, well, like the microwave actually makes
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  Speaker 1: rocks hot properly, it made the rock hot. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: what are you doing this for?
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  Speaker 2: And they recognized that lizards are cold blooded, and it
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  Speaker 2: was a really cold day because of all the rain,
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  Speaker 2: so they decided to make a nice warm space, warm
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  Speaker 2: bed for the lizard. So this is just one of
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  Speaker 2: those tiny, little, you know, a.
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  Speaker 1: Little skinky sort of lizard.
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  Speaker 2: Yet well, I don't know how she managed to do it,
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  Speaker 2: but she's almost like tamed this lizard. She was holding it.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't run away, It.
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  Speaker 1: Just terrified comatose.
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  Speaker 2: So she built some little homes for it out of lego,
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  Speaker 2: and she literally she looked after this lizard all day
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  Speaker 2: and come bedtime, she wanted to keep it in its
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  Speaker 2: little lego house inside, and I just suggested to her
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  Speaker 2: that it was time that the lizard went back to
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  Speaker 2: its own family. Well, she had actually found the lizard
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  Speaker 2: in the neighbor's yard, so at eight thirty at night,
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  Speaker 2: she wanted to return it to the navy yard, which
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  Speaker 2: I obviously said no to. And it took a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of convincing her that she needed to do it,
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  Speaker 2: but she finally went outside sobbing as she placed this
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  Speaker 2: lizard into the garden, said a goodbye, and she stormed
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  Speaker 2: back into the house. She threw her lego house that
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  Speaker 2: she'd made for it on the ground. It shouted into
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  Speaker 2: a million pieces, and she jumped into and covered herself
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  Speaker 2: up in the covers. And so I went over and
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  Speaker 2: I gave her a big hug, and I said, I said,
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  Speaker 2: what's wrong. I said, you're really really sad, and she
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  Speaker 2: just said, I'm so selfish. Oh, oh my goodness. And
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  Speaker 2: I said, to it, do you want to talk about it?
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  Speaker 2: She said, no, I don't want to talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: She said, I'm just I'm so selfish because.
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  Speaker 1: She wanted to keep the lizard go back to its
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  Speaker 1: family and being nature.
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  Speaker 2: I just such a beautiful heart. She has such a
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  Speaker 2: beautiful heart, and she's been begging for a pet for
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  Speaker 2: a long time.
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  Speaker 1: And Lizzie the lizard was going to be the pet.
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  Speaker 1: She was convinced.
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  Speaker 2: And it just reminded me of how innocent and how
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  Speaker 2: pure our children are, and sometimes when we get caught
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  Speaker 2: up in the messiness of family life, we miss it.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's another lesson here as well, though, and
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  Speaker 1: that is that it's really tempting to say to your kids,
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  Speaker 1: I'll stop it, cut it out, don't be silly. And
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  Speaker 1: had you done that, you would have been getting her
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  Speaker 1: in trouble thinking that she was wanting to keep a
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  Speaker 1: lizard inside the house. What was really going on is
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  Speaker 1: she's already feeling bad. She's feeling like she's selfish, like
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  Speaker 1: she needs to be a better human because she's putting
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  Speaker 1: her desires above that of this poor little lizard. Kind
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  Speaker 1: of goes back to that idea that I mentioned before
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  Speaker 1: when I was sharing the story that I didn't technically
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  Speaker 1: share because I've got to share a story in a
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  Speaker 1: second for I'll do better tomorrow. The idea that our
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  Speaker 1: job is not to add to our children's suffering. Our
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  Speaker 1: job is not to add to the challenge they're feeling.
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  Speaker 1: And quite often we don't even know what it is
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  Speaker 1: that they're suffering through, or we think we understand they're suffering,
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  Speaker 1: but it's a different suffering for something entirely else outside
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  Speaker 1: of what we were thinking. Does that make sense? I
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  Speaker 1: have I just made a mess of what I was
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  Speaker 1: trying to say. Jim made a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: mess of it, But I think we get the gist.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to share my I'm going to share my story.
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  Speaker 1: If that's okay with you, Do I have a choice?
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's dive into this one. So we have
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  Speaker 1: been like every family in Australia. I'd imagine, I know
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  Speaker 1: that there are people who are struggling more, and I
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  Speaker 1: know there are people who are struggling less, but I
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  Speaker 1: think that most of middle Australia right now is saying
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  Speaker 1: financially economically, we do not like what is happening. Fuel
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  Speaker 1: prices through the roof, interest rates are skyrocketing, and we
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  Speaker 1: happened to have bought a house I think the very
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  Speaker 1: week that the market peaked, like we bought at the very,
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  Speaker 1: very very top of the market. Within two or three
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  Speaker 1: weeks the housing market started to plat out and drop off,
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  Speaker 1: and we bought the week that it all just went bonkers.
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  Speaker 1: And interest rates have been going up, and cost of
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  Speaker 1: food and everything, everything's really really expensive, and we've been
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  Speaker 1: kind of going backwards a little bit. So I said
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  Speaker 1: to the family on Sunday, let's sit down and go
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  Speaker 1: through the bank statements, the credit card statements. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to audit our expenses and the kids will more do
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  Speaker 1: we have to? And so we divided up. We've got schooling,
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  Speaker 1: and we've got food, and we've got fuel, and we've
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  Speaker 1: got just everything that we have to spend money on
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  Speaker 1: extracurricular activities blah blah, bah blah blah. And each of
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  Speaker 1: the kids, because we have so many of them, had
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  Speaker 1: a different category to look after. So I would read
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  Speaker 1: out the credit card statement it was Cole's one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and sixty two dollars, petrol one hundred and twelve dollars,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it was, I would read out every single line.
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  Speaker 1: We did three months of expenses, and it's so funny.
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  Speaker 1: At the end of the first week, the kids like,
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  Speaker 1: how much longer have we got to go? And I said, guys,
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  Speaker 1: this is only the first week. And they almost fell
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  Speaker 1: off the couch, every one of them. They were like,
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  Speaker 1: it cost us how much just for a week of living.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, guys, you're expensive to keep feeding this many
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  Speaker 1: people in our family, guys a lot, And they're like,
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  Speaker 1: no way. And at the end of it, we had
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  Speaker 1: this incredible conversation where the kids, because they sat there
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  Speaker 1: and calculated this is our weekly and our monthly and
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  Speaker 1: our quarterly expense for food and for fuel and for
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  Speaker 1: swimming lessons, and for piano and whatever else. The kids
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  Speaker 1: have gone in their lives and the things that you
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  Speaker 1: and I are also valuing and saying are important, they've
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  Speaker 1: looked at it and gone cost a lot to live.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't it like we didn't have to give them a
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  Speaker 1: lecture and say, kids turn off the lights, kids turn
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  Speaker 1: off the water. We didn't have to tell them to
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  Speaker 1: stop wasting food. They've looked at it and they're like,
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  Speaker 1: we need to do something about this, don't we, And
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  Speaker 1: you and I kind of going, yeah, we do, we
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  Speaker 1: really need to do something about it. Then we just
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  Speaker 1: simply said to them, so what do you reckon we
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  Speaker 1: should do? And they came up with a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: of solutions. We're going to do this, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: do that, and we've got to do this better and
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  Speaker 1: that better. And I felt like, in terms of teaching
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  Speaker 1: your kids financial literacy, what a powerful, powerful lesson for
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  Speaker 1: them to actually go through the credit card bills with you,
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  Speaker 1: go through the bank statements with you, write out every
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  Speaker 1: single item and then tally it up.
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  Speaker 2: When our kids were younger, especially the older three, we
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  Speaker 2: actually sat down when we started giving them a pocket
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  Speaker 2: money and we went through a budget. We created a
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  Speaker 2: minor budget for them based on their five dollars or
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  Speaker 2: whatever they were getting each week. And I think that
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  Speaker 2: those lessons were really important for them. And as they
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  Speaker 2: get a job, we then go through that process that
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  Speaker 2: with them again.
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  Speaker 1: Going to pay board, got to have money to donate
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  Speaker 1: to a good cause, got to have spending money, got
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  Speaker 1: to have saving money, yep.
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  Speaker 2: And then as the children are slightly older and they
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  Speaker 2: get the driver's license, petrol needs to be added into
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  Speaker 2: that and servicing and things like that with the car.
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  Speaker 2: And so we've had those kinds of conversations with the
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  Speaker 2: children for a very long time, but to actually have
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  Speaker 2: them sit there and see how much it costs to
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  Speaker 2: run our family. It's all been, you know, all of
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  Speaker 2: their conversations have been very insul like because it's all
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  Speaker 2: just been about them. But for them to actually participate
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  Speaker 2: and sit down and see how much is required for
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  Speaker 2: our family to function, I think was really eye opening
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  Speaker 2: for them. And you know, like you said, just those
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  Speaker 2: recognition that there was so many different things that they
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  Speaker 2: actually could do as the little people in the relationship,
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  Speaker 2: but to make a difference.
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  Speaker 1: What I also loved about it is that our twenty
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  Speaker 1: year old daughter who's about to move out of home.
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  Speaker 1: As we started to go through this, she wins and
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  Speaker 1: she's like, well, no, no, I have to pay all my
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  Speaker 1: own stuff anyway, I'm paying board and this has got
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  Speaker 1: nothing to do with me. Do I have to do this?
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  Speaker 1: And we said, we think that there's value in this
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  Speaker 1: for you, just idun Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I acknowledged to her that this was a life skill
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  Speaker 2: and I thought that it would be beneficial for her,
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  Speaker 2: even if she didn't feel like it was, you know,
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  Speaker 2: specifically related to her right now.
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  Speaker 1: At the end of it, she said, that was actually
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  Speaker 1: really good. I'm going to go and do my own
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  Speaker 1: bank accounts right now. So she disappeared into her room
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of hours, wrote out every single expense,
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  Speaker 1: divided them up into different categories. She came out and said, Dad,
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  Speaker 1: you wouldn't believe how much money I'm spending on fast
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  Speaker 1: food every single month. I can't believe how much money
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  Speaker 1: I'm spending on fuel on this. On that, she said,
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  Speaker 1: I've really got to do something about this. And so
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  Speaker 1: watching our twenty year old daughter sit through like an
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  Speaker 1: hour and a half of doing it with us and
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  Speaker 1: then going to her own room and do it for
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  Speaker 1: her own accounts. I was like, yeah, she's figuring this
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  Speaker 1: out and she's had some insights that are really valuable.
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  Speaker 1: So the take home message is teaching a kids financial
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  Speaker 1: literacy has immediate payoffs once they start to understand what's
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  Speaker 1: going on. We didn't do it with Emily. She's eight
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  Speaker 1: and she didn't hang around. This was our twelve year
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  Speaker 1: old and up. So I guess it's probably worth putting
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  Speaker 1: that out there, but we have with young kids and
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  Speaker 1: you can still have financial conversations. In fact, we've had
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  Speaker 1: podcasts about that over the last couple of years as well,
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  Speaker 1: so you can do a quick search if you want
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  Speaker 1: to find out what we recommend about that. But that's
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  Speaker 1: having those conversations really makes a difference. We really hope
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