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NFL Free Agent Primer: Is There An Adoree Jackson 2.0 For Eagles In This CB Class? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on everybody?
• 0:16
  Speaker 2: Jeff Mosher and Adam Kaplan and man, it's the end
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  Speaker 2: of the week, and it is the end. This podcast
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  Speaker 2: will mark the end of our NFL Free agency primer,
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  Speaker 2: and we've bet a lot of shows. We've gone through
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  Speaker 2: every single position and we're gonna finish it off talking
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  Speaker 2: about defensive backs, both corner and safety and then Adam,
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  Speaker 2: after this, we go into the weekend and then Monday night,
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: Monday afternoon, I should say, all the fun will begin
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  Speaker 2: when the legal tampering period starts.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they call the open negotiating period. So basically what
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  Speaker 3: it really means is agents who have players right that
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  Speaker 3: represent players one team. They could find out if the
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  Speaker 3: other team wants them. They could do it openly now,
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  Speaker 3: but the player could not talk to the team. Although
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  Speaker 3: it's a proposal for players to have limited access to
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  Speaker 3: have phone calls with the team on that Monday, they
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  Speaker 3: want to bring that in. It might have been the Steelers,
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  Speaker 3: I can't remember put the proposal in, but bottom line is, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so and then when you get to Wednesday, when they
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  Speaker 3: knew he league year opens, it's it's like there's nobody
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  Speaker 3: that's been picked over the NFL. The top of the
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  Speaker 3: NFL free agency is so quick. It's so quick. It's
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  Speaker 3: not like base quicker too.
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  Speaker 2: Right, because there's as we've been discussing throughout this series,
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  Speaker 2: there's just not a lot of impact, like game changing
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  Speaker 2: top name free agents. So I mean, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what that'll mean, like if some guys want to drag
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  Speaker 2: it out, but I would think if you're getting a
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  Speaker 2: great offer and you're taking it, because there's just like
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  Speaker 2: you said, there's not that many guys.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and then the other thing, there's the trading period
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  Speaker 3: which has started. You know, we'll talk about that for
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  Speaker 3: a minute. You're going to see a bunch of trades
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  Speaker 3: up into the draft because it's not a good free
• 1:57
  Speaker 3: agency period and there's some we'll get in more into
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  Speaker 3: the draft in a couple of weeks, but there's some
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  Speaker 3: positions aren't very strong. So what you're gonna do is
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna start calling teams, see players are available. Right.
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  Speaker 3: McDuffie's a guy that was available that I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if the Chiefs went on trade and I know you've
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  Speaker 3: got some information there, but the bottom line is, uh,
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  Speaker 3: if you need a position and it's not there. It's
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  Speaker 3: clearly not there for free agency. The guys who are
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  Speaker 3: available tickl the corner. What we're gonna get to, you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to make a trade, and the Rams did,
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  Speaker 3: and boyd it, they gave up a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Oh listen, So let's first out one this.
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  Speaker 2: So the Chiefs trade one of one of the guys
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  Speaker 2: we've talked about quite a bit just inside the Birds
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  Speaker 2: because of the uniqueness of the way he plays the position.
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  Speaker 2: The Chiefs trade Trent McDuffie, who was a first round
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  Speaker 2: pick for them four years ago, I guess, because this
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  Speaker 2: would have been his fourth year.
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  Speaker 1: Right, does that sound.
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  Speaker 3: Four years ago?
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  Speaker 1: And this would have been his fifth year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they traded them to the Rams, and amazingly, the
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  Speaker 2: Rams gave up a lot, and yet I feel like
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  Speaker 2: both teams still both win. I mean, it's great trade.
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  Speaker 2: The Rams give up a first round pick, they give
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  Speaker 2: up what two other picks I think.
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  Speaker 3: And they actually gave up four.
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  Speaker 1: Four picks, four picks total. Right, that sounds like a lot.
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  Speaker 1: It is a lot.
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  Speaker 2: But however, the Rams had an extra first round pick
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  Speaker 2: that they got from the Falcons last year, So the
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  Speaker 2: Rams still get to make a first round pick, and
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  Speaker 2: they address the most glaring issue on their team and
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  Speaker 2: their defense and what really held them back at times
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  Speaker 2: last year, which is having a stud cornerback. So now
• 3:26
  Speaker 2: they bring in a stud cornerback, I should say most
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  Speaker 2: glaring issue outside of having a competent special teams coordinator,
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  Speaker 2: but after that, from a personnel standpoint, it's corner So
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  Speaker 2: the rich get richer in both cases. Then Adam the
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  Speaker 2: Chiefs will get an additional first round pick. And so
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  Speaker 2: for all I understand, all I know is about this
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  Speaker 2: is that the Chiefs were not like trying to get
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  Speaker 2: just like Howie Roseman says with AJ Brown, They're.
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  Speaker 1: Not giving giving a player away.
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  Speaker 2: They were only going to take a first round pick
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  Speaker 2: because this is a guy who was up on an
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  Speaker 2: extension and he was going to make a lot of money.
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  Speaker 1: So here's how it impacts the Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: At him, right, McDuffie is a guy who plays nickel
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  Speaker 2: really well, plays outside well enough to be a starter
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  Speaker 2: in this league. But because he can do both, he
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  Speaker 2: can blitz. I mean, he fits certain defenses really well
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  Speaker 2: and has been a two time All Pro player. So
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles have a very similar player in Cooper dejen
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  Speaker 2: and by this time next year he's going to be
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  Speaker 2: eligible for an extension. So we got our eyes on
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  Speaker 2: what Trent McDuffie is going to make here when he
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  Speaker 2: signs this extension with the Rams. Who you don't make
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  Speaker 2: that trade unless you're giving an extension.
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  Speaker 3: A couple of fens here, right, you've got to know
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  Speaker 3: when you're doing that contract. Okay, if you're the Eagles,
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  Speaker 3: you'll have this access and so will the agent. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: how many how many snaps he he played nickel, which
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  Speaker 3: is generally an inside position? How many steps they have
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  Speaker 3: a corner which is ant side position, like when you're
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  Speaker 3: doing that contract and the Rams, by the way, it
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  Speaker 3: is seen around the league as a massive overpay. He's
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  Speaker 3: a McDuffie's a very He's a really good player, no doubt.
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  Speaker 3: But he's also smaller. Yeah, Jeane's bigger physically, a better athlete.
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  Speaker 3: But mcdue's a proven player, no doubt. He's a really
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  Speaker 3: good player, very high character. I remember you you noted
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  Speaker 3: uh that draft Eagles loved him, right? Like that was
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  Speaker 3: really it was?
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  Speaker 1: Is that the draft they took Jordan Davis.
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  Speaker 3: I'd have to look.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's the draft.
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  Speaker 2: They took Jordan Davis and they moved up for him,
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  Speaker 2: and I was told at the time, if they weren't
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  Speaker 2: you could, yeah just check that while I'm talking here.
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  Speaker 2: I just know that they really liked him. He was
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  Speaker 2: sort of next on their board. And if they weren't
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  Speaker 2: able to get the guy who they got, which I
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  Speaker 2: think it was Jordan Davis, and I think they had
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  Speaker 2: to move up.
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  Speaker 1: One or two spots, then McDuffie would have been the guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah that he was selected in the first round of
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  Speaker 3: the twenty two draft. Yeah, Jordan Davis was selected in
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  Speaker 3: twenty two, so that would make that's what it was, Okay, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean he he's got the short arms. He's not
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  Speaker 3: like five to eight. But what it is is he's
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  Speaker 3: got the short arms. But I remember we had the
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  Speaker 3: note that uh Gannon didn't really care about the arm length.
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  Speaker 3: It was not a big deal for him, you know,
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  Speaker 3: because that for that position, if you're gonna play corner,
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  Speaker 3: you don't you don't want to have I'd have to
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  Speaker 3: look it up what the exact measurement was. I know
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  Speaker 3: it was not. He didn't have very long arms, right.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So we listen the top guys, right, now in
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  Speaker 2: the in the NFL, they get paid between twenty four
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  Speaker 2: and thirty million dollars. You're talking about Gardner Stingley, Certain right,
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  Speaker 2: I look at I totally agree with both what you've
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  Speaker 2: heard and what we've talked about is that McDuffie is a.
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  Speaker 1: Very good corner.
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  Speaker 2: But he's not someone like Stingley that you just put
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  Speaker 2: on on an island against anybody and expect to win
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  Speaker 2: or certain right he's he's shorter, he can give up
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  Speaker 2: yards down the field to those taller physical kind of guys.
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  Speaker 2: He to me, is more like what Marlon Humphrey is
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  Speaker 2: to the Ravens. A guy who plays inside, the guy
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  Speaker 2: who can play outside. He's made Pro Bowls and Humphrey's
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  Speaker 2: around twenty million dollars a year. And no, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know when the last time he signed a contract was,
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  Speaker 2: so maybe he's up on too. But if they if
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  Speaker 2: the Rams turn around and give McDuffie twenty eight to
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  Speaker 2: thirty million dollars, wow, that would a be pretty incredible
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  Speaker 2: by McDuffie and his agent, and b kind of puts
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles right next year in a bind because they
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  Speaker 2: already have they're gonna have to pay Hunt, gotta be Carter,
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  Speaker 2: gotta be Davis, gotta be Quentin and Mitchell and Cooper
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  Speaker 2: to gen will have every right, especially if he has
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  Speaker 2: another Pro Bowl or All Pro season, to say, well,
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  Speaker 2: I deserve as much as that guy.
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  Speaker 1: McDuffie.
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  Speaker 3: Yep. Marlon Humphreys son a five year extension in October
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty for nineteen point five million a season. That
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  Speaker 3: that deal is obviously outdated, it was a really good deal.
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  Speaker 3: Then sure he turns Humphrey turns thirty in July. Gosh,
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  Speaker 3: I remember his dad, Bobby Humphrey running back for the Broncos. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: but Trent McDuffie. See, here's the thing. The Rams are
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  Speaker 3: what we call an overpay team, not only sometimes in trades,
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  Speaker 3: but in terms of they pay really well. Like agents
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  Speaker 3: love them because they pay really Yes, yeah, they just
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  Speaker 3: do you know. They they trade first round picks, you know,
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  Speaker 3: not out of their last ten years something like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, I know it's less. But but but they
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  Speaker 3: draft really well, they're Lessned's one of the best drafting
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  Speaker 3: gms in the National Football Like, he's a top five drafter,
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  Speaker 3: really really good at one one more note they were
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  Speaker 3: they got there another team that got away with it
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  Speaker 3: at corner. Emmanuel Forbes definitely revived his career, which he
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  Speaker 3: never had really one. Though he's a first round pick.
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  Speaker 3: He was awful for Washington. Did a nice job, Yeoman's job,
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  Speaker 3: did a nice job. But they they got They saw
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  Speaker 3: what happened to them against the Seattle and two out
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  Speaker 3: of the three games they got handled pretty badly at
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  Speaker 3: corner and less Sneed gets so funny less Sneed Before
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  Speaker 3: the trade, it did a media availability. I'm gonna say
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  Speaker 3: maybe Monday or Tuesday. He said, Oh, they were what's
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  Speaker 3: freeency looked like we're really looking hard at the cornerback position.
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  Speaker 3: We're really are looking to do something. Yeah, on the
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  Speaker 3: quote in front of it album just paraphrasing, and why
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  Speaker 3: did they do something? So? Look they needed it. Uh
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  Speaker 3: you know they made a trade for Roger McCrary, who's
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  Speaker 3: a free agent by the ways, a nickel. Uh So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they're less as a trading full man. And look, you
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  Speaker 3: can't argue with success. Guy's really good, you know, wan
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  Speaker 3: a super Bowl's a GM. Yeah, so see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: They got one more year of Stafford, They're gonna clearly
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  Speaker 2: go for it all next year, and they'll be good.
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  Speaker 1: Going into next year. They got three guys in the
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  Speaker 1: secondary now who can play all around.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned McCreary obviously, McDuffie now and Quinton Lake, who
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  Speaker 2: plays all around for them too, So Chris Hulo can
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  Speaker 2: do some interesting sub package stuff.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what do you want to call it?
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  Speaker 2: Big Nickel or McCreary's up, right, McCreary's up, and actually
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  Speaker 2: Hesy's up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Quinton Lake, Quentin Lake's interesting. I his dad Carnell Lake,
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  Speaker 3: former Steeler safety. Yeah, I didn't know this. He he uh,
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  Speaker 3: I forget where he went to school. Might have be
• 9:59
  Speaker 3: UCLA without look it up. He uh, he actually went
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  Speaker 3: to He had never he had not played safety before
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  Speaker 3: and maybe late in his career college and then clearly
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  Speaker 3: with the Rams. He's sort of a hybrid player. He
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: dissipated his elbow, how the surgery came back. Really good
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  Speaker 3: football player. Yeah, camp Curl by the way is up.
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  Speaker 3: You know, his contracts up as a safety. So they
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  Speaker 3: they're good. I yeah, I mean they are going for it,
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  Speaker 3: but I mean McDuffie's gonna be there for a long
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  Speaker 3: time obviously.
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  Speaker 1: All right, and the Rams they should be good again
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  Speaker 1: next year.
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: Let's get into then the discussion the overall look outlook
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  Speaker 2: of cornerback in free agency. This is an area where
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: the Eagles were not obviously aggressive. Last year. We talked
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: about their their lower cash spend. I imagine that'll be
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: similar this year. And we'll have to see what happens
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: with a Dori Jackson. I mean, they could bring him back,
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: or they could just find their twenty and twenty six
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: version of Adri Jackson. Among them, many names that we
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: have listed here of guys will be free agents.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, if you go through this list, Alonte Taylor is
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: gonna get paid if he leaves New Orleans. He's a player,
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  Speaker 3: he could play nickel, he could play corner. He started
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  Speaker 3: his career off as a corner, then he moved to nickel.
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  Speaker 3: Really good player, Jamal Dean, He's got ideal length. He
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: just has been hurt too much. Dreq Willan, he look,
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  Speaker 3: he was very available to trade deadline. They went up
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: not trading this. They had no depth at corner right.
• 11:28
  Speaker 3: Greg Knews from a good player, could play corner, he
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  Speaker 3: could play nickel, came over from that odd trade the
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: corner for corner trade Jaguars and the Browns. He just
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: finished out his fifth year option. He was a first
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  Speaker 3: rounder with the Browns. Josh Jobu more of a nickel
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: well because they they play three corners a lot. An
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: incredible story development, what a good for him. He's gonna
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  Speaker 3: get paid. This is a great story. Hm.
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  Speaker 2: He Well, he's nickel outside though, right, because they would
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  Speaker 2: move Witherspoon inside and then play him.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, but although he could play, he could play
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  Speaker 3: inside too. But yes, yes, yes, with a spoon moves
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: inside and nickel, he's I'll be interesting to see what happens. Like.
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: His numbers for the regular season are fantastic times throwing
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: against in yardage, but they were a little bit of
• 12:19
  Speaker 3: an issue in the playoffs. He's gonna get paid. He's
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: gonna make some money. Good for him. It's an unbelievable story.
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  Speaker 3: He was no better than a fifth corner for the
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: Eagles and really only play on specials. Yep. Eric Stokes
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: a former Packers first rounder who's a corner. Decent, decent stuff,
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: decent job with a Raiders. He's okay on Tarrek Buster
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  Speaker 3: Brown for the Jaguars. I give this guy credit. Was
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: the seventh rounder. He really improved Jalen Watson. See he's
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: been a good story of development for the Chiefs. As
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: a seventh rounder, they are barren. They don't have a
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: starting quality corner right now. The Chiefs. So they got
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: two first round picks, ninth and I think twenty ninth,
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  Speaker 3: I think twenty eighth. They got a lot of work
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  Speaker 3: to do. They need corners, they eate edge rushers, they
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: need to tackles, they need a running back, they need receivers.
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: The Chiefs are a team that's in transition. They're in
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: a rebuild. They were an absolute rebuild.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, I would be shocked if they were very
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: aggressive this year in free agency. They know they need picks,
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  Speaker 2: and they know they need young players and the rebuild
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  Speaker 2: through the draft, and they are.
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  Speaker 3: A low cash ben team. They don't They're not a
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: big cash bend team historically. They're just not. Other than
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: Chris Jones is making it I think like thirty five million, yeah,
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: and of course Mahomes though he's given them discounts over
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: the years. That's they're just not they you know, they
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: catch one Taylor that never worked out. Yep, you know,
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: they they they're they're going through the cap issue that
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: that Breadfeatchs made it pretty clear. They've got a lot
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: of convertible contracts. It won't be very difficult. Yeah, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they're they're in transition. Man. The the Broncos are the
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: class of that division, and then the Chargers.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: Probably Chargers are coming up too. Yeah. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Now that being said, you know once with Mahomes coming
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: back healthy next year, you never put anything past them.
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  Speaker 1: If they won eleven games, I would not be surprised.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we'll see how healthy he is coming off eight
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: nine months. That's that's to be tough.
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  Speaker 2: I love that on this list that we you've got compiled,
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  Speaker 2: it says Darius Slay slash buff That's great because technically
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: he was his last employer technically was the Buffalo Bills
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  Speaker 2: who claimed him off waivers.
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  Speaker 1: Right, that's what Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and their GM Brandon Bean said, had they known
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: he wouldn't report, they would have claimed him. Is technically
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: you're not allowed to talk to the agent. The agent
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: called the agent, but you're not. You're right, absolutely right,
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: but you're not supposed to. Technically he was Pittsburgh's property, yep,
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: until he passes to ramage to him, of course they
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: should do that. But the Bills man. And you know,
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: they they they made the big DJ More trade. They
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: they they gave a fair value. DJ Moore's last two seasons.
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: We're not great. He didn't break one thousand yards either year.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: Obviously because Kayleb Williams is a young quarterback, that that
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: changes the dynamic. But in a way it's good for
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: the Eagles because they didn't get a J. Brown. And
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: we know, I'm telling you the Patriots love a J. Brown.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: In fact, I remember we noted it two or three
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: years ago, well before Vrabel got there, they called the Eagles,
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: you're interested. So they're running out of opportunities. They're not like,
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: we'll see who else is available out there at receiver.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: But it well, the thing is, I see why they
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: made the trade. Good luck trying to get someone off
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: the street. There's just no one there.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: You got the trade, yep, there really isn't.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's a lot of guys, you know, the
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Ben Saint Juice, Cam Taylor Bride. I feel like there
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: are a lot of guys on this list who either
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: had a flash in the PA, had had a good year,
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: good start, has fallen off. Can maybe you know, like
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: the trenevious White. I mean he's always he was always hurt,
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: but he used to be really good. Rasul Douglas, remember
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: he kind of had that bounce back with the Packers
• 16:00
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's talk about a guy stars fawn significantly. He's
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  Speaker 1: A like just to give you an example, right of
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  Speaker 1: not something's real or not. We always we have.
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  Speaker 2: Said this constantly on this show, like in primers, where
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: don't just judge a safety by interceptions. You know the
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Eagles will trade for like Bayered, right, he had all
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  Speaker 2: those interceptions the year before and it's like you could
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: be right place, right time. But you know Nashan Right
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  Speaker 2: from the Bears, who I like. I like his makeup.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: He's six foot four.
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  Speaker 3: I liked him.
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  Speaker 1: When he was with Dallas.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: He never really they never gave him a chance. He
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: had a good year.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Man, he had five interceptions for one hundred and eighteen
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: return yards.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: I remember when we were proving that game. He was like,
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: we were like, I just remember Greg said it too,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: because he knew better than us. Right became a player. Yeah, Dallas,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: he couldn't get on the field, and it's it is
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: odd six ft four I think Richard shervs. Year six
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: three or six four. Yeah, but typically you know, teams
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: don't like it because throttle down, it's right, thrown down,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: flipping hips, it's harder, you know, it's harder. Sometimes the
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: pleasure high hepted that at that size. But and I
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: remember when the Packers claimed Trayvon Diggs's contract, I'm like, Okay,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: let's see what happens. There's no way he's coming back.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: But he had enormous salary for twenty six and then
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: they knew that they were going to have to cut him.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: But that's what that's what you do sometimes at corner.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: It's big time. Corner has really become available. This is
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: why I'm bringing this up. There's every You look at
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Jamel Dean, too many injuries, tweak one and he's he's
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: regressed a little bit. Greg Newsom, is he a Nicchol?
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Is he a corner? Cleveland drafted him, they traded him.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: You know, you don't like to see that. I'm looking
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: at this. It's Kobe Durant an okay corner, good story development.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Ben Saint Jeuwis was once an up and coming corner
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: for Washington. They weren't interest to bring him back. Kim
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Taylor Britt was decent early in his career, not good enough.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: A lot of journeymen, a lot of Nichols, Roger mccreer
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: I mentioned, and Meek Robertson really did a good job
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: for for the Lions reviving his career. He met Dory
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Jackson is like a fourth corner now yep. And Jack Jones,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: a former player for the Patriots and Raiders now with Miami,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: played a lot last season. It's it's a weak list, man,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: it really is.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, if i'm you know, if you're the Eagles.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: You're looking to play Dori.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: You're trying to bring in someone on one year, much
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: like a Dory who you think that maybe with good
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: environment and good coaching around you can get something better
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: from Maybe Cam Taylor Britt is that guy, because you
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: know he's played at a pretty high level in the past.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Now it's been a while, but again you're you're bargain
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: shopping here.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: You're giving question that's.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Going to be his football speed. It's I don't know
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: what it's time speed is. I just know I from
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: what we've been told, it's he's just not fast enough,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: not explosive. Now again, there's a reason why this is
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: actually a talented player. Yeah, we'll see what the Bengals do.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: So I go through this list and and I mean
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Jalen Watson that the Chiefs have to look at. He
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: really did a nice job last season the Chiefs.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I was just about to say, he jumps out, yeah,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: like maybe he can get some value there.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And as far as the Jory Jackson the Eagles,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: all he is at this point of thirty years old
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: is a compete player. What does that mean? Wherever he
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: goes here? It's Eagles for a one year or somewhere else.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: For one year. He competes for a role. That's it, right,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: It's not a starting corner, right. Yeah, to this day,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: I cannot believe that teams didn't go after him like
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: we thought they would earlier. Boy, that Dallas cooked him
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: week one. Then we would do the inside the tip
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: sture with Cosell and Greg goes, you know, I watched
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: his tape and like, why aren't teams throwing against him?
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: He just couldn't. He was dumbfound He goes, I don't
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: get this. I got I don't know.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: It was odd.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Now we would watch tape and Greg would really inform
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: us that there were a lot of times as the
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: season went on that Vic got so comfortable, even with
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: a too high structure, of rolling that second safety over
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: to a Dori side as well and basically leaving Quinnon
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Mitchell in zero.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Coverage with no safety help. So a Doriri was getting
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: protected a lot.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: You can understand quarterback seas one safety there another rolling
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: over his own coverage.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: But so that's the benefit that a Dory had.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: By playing in the secondary, that is playing in so
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know that he would be as successful avoiding
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: people targeting him on a different team.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: So to Summer's up before we move on to Safety. Yeah,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: it's real simple. If you if you need a corner,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: good luck to you. You're you're better off of the
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: trade market, and it's always a challenge to get a
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: good corner in a trade. But you saw what the
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Rams paid. They paid a massive price. Yeah, you're better
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: off looking to the draft.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Stoke A. Stokes
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: started all last year for he did for the writer's career.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's such a thin class of good corners,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: he may actually get.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, Decent.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Decent Hate a significant nee injury early in its kurth
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Green Bay Brainders took a chance. He's not bad, but
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: overall that's it for corner Man. Nothing else.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Dad, All right, well, you know what we got.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Safety is left to finish this thing out, and that'll
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: come out the next day Saturday. Maybe we'll talk about
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: a few more game changers here at Safety than we
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: did at Corner. We'll have to go through and everybody
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: will have to listen to find out that's gonna do it.
• 24:08
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