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AEW Hot Topics | A Hot Rumor & Community Questions · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 1: ignition with the aaw Fat podcast team. Tonight, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about some hot topics in ae W.
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  Speaker 2: This is Kelson and I am Shane aka the clout
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  Speaker 2: Factory net net Net. Yes, Shane, we heard that you
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  Speaker 2: had some absolutely hot news off of the press for us.
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  Speaker 2: Please enlighten us what you got going on.
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  Speaker 3: All right, it's not really breaking news, so just take
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  Speaker 3: it as an unconfirmed rumor. We've been told that by
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  Speaker 3: someone who designs title belts for wrestling companies has been
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  Speaker 3: hired by a w to design a women's tag team belt.
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  Speaker 1: What men is that?
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  Speaker 4: It's good?
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  Speaker 3: Apparently gonna be a says Shade.
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  Speaker 1: How long have I been asking for this bro?
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  Speaker 2: Since day one of the hub? I mean, like, think
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  Speaker 2: about the possibilities here. We're finally taking women that had
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  Speaker 2: been so like like, this is such a fantastic opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to start utilizing women in the locker room that typically
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  Speaker 2: like sit on their hands. I could name ten off
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  Speaker 2: the top of my head. I'm not going to do that.
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  Speaker 2: It's a great idea, Net. I don't want to dig
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  Speaker 2: too deeply into your resources, but how did you come
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  Speaker 2: across this information.
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  Speaker 3: Talking to a few people and somebody just happened to
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  Speaker 3: mention something about the women's tag team in a w
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  Speaker 3: So I don't want to say too much because it's
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  Speaker 3: an unconfirmed thing and we'll just see where it goes.
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  Speaker 2: So usually with information like this, I have a tendency
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  Speaker 2: to hijacking these podcasts. I'm not going to do that
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  Speaker 2: this time. I want to, I know, I want to.
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  Speaker 2: I want to ask a serious question to the panel guys,
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  Speaker 2: if this is happening, if this is legitimate, if this
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  Speaker 2: is something that we have to look forward to, when
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  Speaker 2: is it happening?
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  Speaker 1: Well, at least by twenty twenty six, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, well, how about this? Let me let me reask
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  Speaker 2: a if Tony Khan was finally you know, getting his
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  Speaker 2: wits about him in terms of how the women were
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  Speaker 2: being booked, what would be the best time to launch
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  Speaker 2: a women's tag division?
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  Speaker 1: Hmmm, I'd say right after Forbidden Door, okay, because I
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  Speaker 1: do believe that a Forbidden Door we're going to get
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  Speaker 1: Mayui Watani and Mercedes Monet or by Yoiwatani and Tony Storm,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that that's going to probably be the
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  Speaker 1: big women's match for that, and I think that's where
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  Speaker 1: to focus. They want to keep the focus on that
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  Speaker 1: because that's the draw for the women's side, at least
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  Speaker 1: on Everbidden Door.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I mean like their partnership with Japanese Wrestling has
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  Speaker 2: brought into fruition a lot of great things for the
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  Speaker 2: women in a W In terms of Tony Storm obviously,
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  Speaker 2: you know, do we see her taking that belt? And
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  Speaker 2: how are they going to redirect the World Championship away
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  Speaker 2: from tag teams? I mean, like this is huge. I
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  Speaker 2: mean this this could potentially revitalize the entire women's division. AW.
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  Speaker 2: It's not something to just you know, brush up.
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  Speaker 1: When you look at the AAW women's division right now,
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  Speaker 1: you've got what I think that AAW is doing better
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  Speaker 1: with the women's division than they are with the men's division,
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  Speaker 1: is that you've got storylines that are actually going on
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  Speaker 1: that have nothing to do with title belts. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: look at Julia Hart and Jamie Hayter. There's no title
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  Speaker 1: belt even there, and we know we're gonna get Julia
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  Speaker 1: Hart Hater three you know sometime down the line, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and so you know, I don't know, you just got
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  Speaker 1: all this stuff going on, there's Meggan Bain coming in,
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  Speaker 1: There's just the women are poised to kill it. Tony
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  Speaker 1: conscious has to let them pull the trigger.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Net It sounded like you think so. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So like Nett, like on the real reel, like Tony,
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  Speaker 2: Tony someone might be one of the more captivating things
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  Speaker 2: that's happening in all professional wrestling, just period. Do you
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  Speaker 2: personally think that bringing a women's tag division into AW
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  Speaker 2: could be just as captivating?
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  Speaker 3: I think so because a lot of fans want women's
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  Speaker 3: tag teams, and like Kelson was saying, there's some great
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  Speaker 3: storytelling there, the tag team division can only enhance that,
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  Speaker 3: and well, we already have some women working together who
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  Speaker 3: are really good. Dina Pirazzo and Tyvawcrae come to mind immediately.
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  Speaker 3: So I think it's there and all we have to
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  Speaker 3: do is get it going. Tony Kahan has to make
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  Speaker 3: the magic happen.
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  Speaker 1: I absolutely agree. I absolutely agree. I'm excited. I I again,
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  Speaker 1: like Shane said, I've been asking for this for almost
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  Speaker 1: two years now. Actually, January thirty first was the first
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  Speaker 1: podcast that we ever did two years ago of twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three, so the podcast are two years old. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: we started the podcast before aw Fannhub came into existence,
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  Speaker 1: and a w Fanhub will celebrate its second anniversary in
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  Speaker 1: eleven days, unbelievably so. But what I'm saying is I've
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  Speaker 1: been asking for this for this long.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a great.
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  Speaker 1: Way to get more women on TV in meaningful matches.
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  Speaker 3: I think. So that's a lot of potential.
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  Speaker 2: And so many women to showcase. I mean, now I
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  Speaker 2: want to make a little fun of this, like I'll say, well,
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  Speaker 2: let's take a round to around the wheel, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to make a statement that's going to be somewhat controversial,
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  Speaker 2: being that WWE recently so epically dropped the ball with
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  Speaker 2: their women's tag team title titles. What do you guys think,
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  Speaker 2: What do you think will be like the big tag
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  Speaker 2: team couple to take the championship for the first time? Hmm, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I know I have one.
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  Speaker 1: I have one right now, and that's somebody that I've
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  Speaker 1: This is a tag team that I've said probably for
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  Speaker 1: a while now it's right there in front of your face.
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  Speaker 1: But I do have to WWE has a women's tag division.
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  Speaker 2: Well they did.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, there was a really good tech team that had
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  Speaker 1: had Tony Storm and thunder Rosa, Thunderstorm, they would be
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  Speaker 1: my favorites. Julia Hart, Julie Hart and sky Blue would
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  Speaker 1: be a really good choice because they're younger. Not that
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  Speaker 1: Tony Storm and thunder Rosa are dinosaurs. But I want
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  Speaker 1: to see some of the younger women and some of
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  Speaker 1: the younger men get pushed. And we're going to talk
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  Speaker 1: about this really soon in the next in the next
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  Speaker 1: uh next topic. Actually, so anybody else, other other women's
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  Speaker 1: tag teams, anybody else?
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  Speaker 5: Go ahead?
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  Speaker 1: It would be.
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  Speaker 6: Chris stat Lander and Willowgill there.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, will On Nightingale, Sure no, I get
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  Speaker 1: a better one, go ahead, and Meghan ban.
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  Speaker 5: That would be any that would be the best tag
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  Speaker 5: team in the women's division they could have.
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  Speaker 1: And you see how how because how Megan Bay made
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  Speaker 1: Chris stat Lander look like rehost that the next door
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  Speaker 1: almost and and and.
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  Speaker 5: For that fact alone, you're talking, you're talking, you're talking
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  Speaker 5: road Warriors. You know, when you think about great tag
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  Speaker 5: teams from in the past of any division, you're thinking,
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  Speaker 5: you're you're looking at like a road Warriors or uh,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the British literally dominate anybody in the in
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  Speaker 5: the division right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd like to see Tim Mellow tagged up with someone,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't know who.
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  Speaker 1: Together for years.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think that is a world champion caliber women's wrestler.
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  Speaker 2: I think that she's put a lot of good work
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  Speaker 2: in in Japan. But you know, I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: you guys remember, like there was a really great like
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  Speaker 2: a hardcore style like a death match with on Rampage
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  Speaker 2: about a year and a half ago with Ruby so
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  Speaker 2: Well two years now, Ruby Soho and Willow Nightingale versus
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  Speaker 2: kJ and it was a absolute banger.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask a trivia question right now, do you
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  Speaker 1: know which woman in AW with more than fifty matches?
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  Speaker 1: So not somebody that has like ted matches or something
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  Speaker 1: like Mercedes Bonez, what fifteen matches, We're not gonna say her,
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  Speaker 1: but fifty plus matches at AW that are on the
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  Speaker 1: current AW women's roster, not somebody who's no longer on
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  Speaker 1: the roster. Who has the best winning percentage? Nope, not
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  Speaker 1: even close. Really indeed, Nope, it would it would be
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  Speaker 1: It would be the woman with the best winning percentage
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  Speaker 1: in a w with fifty plus matches is thunder Rosa
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  Speaker 1: at eighty three percent wins and I'm talking all matches,
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  Speaker 1: not just solo matches, all matches eighty three percent. You
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  Speaker 1: know who's in second place? And this may shock you,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Ross also with also with also with eighty three
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  Speaker 1: also with eighty three percent, but just point zero one
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  Speaker 1: five or something like that, a sliver, blow thunder Rosa
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  Speaker 1: with fifty plus matches in a w Tymelo eighty three percent.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody else is really close. Yeah, she has. As a
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  Speaker 1: matter of fact, I believe it was in one of
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  Speaker 1: the years I I can't remember which year it was,
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  Speaker 1: Ta Mellow actually had the most matches in AW men
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  Speaker 1: or women one year, I don't think. I think it
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  Speaker 1: was like twenty twenty two. I think it was after
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  Speaker 1: the UH, after the pandemic was.
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  Speaker 2: Over, pregnancy time. Elo was all over the place, and
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  Speaker 2: it was very believable that that she could have.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't forget you also had Dark too,
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  Speaker 1: and she was very you know, prevalent on Dark. But look, Shane,
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  Speaker 1: I want to go ahead and move on because we've
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  Speaker 1: got actually a pretty interesting segment coming up. We asked
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  Speaker 1: the the aw fanhub community what they wanted us to
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  Speaker 1: talk about tonight. And we took the three best questions.
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  Speaker 1: We may cover some more maybe next week, but I
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  Speaker 1: took the three best for time reasons, and we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: just call this the community Questions segment. And the first
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  Speaker 1: question asked by a member of the community for us
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  Speaker 1: to discuss is where do we see AW in five years?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not going to take that question as what
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  Speaker 1: are the ratings going to be? Like I'm telling I'm
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  Speaker 1: taking it as like who are the champions, who's going
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  Speaker 1: to get who's going to have the pushes, who's going
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  Speaker 1: to be gone? You know, maybe they go to WWE,
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  Speaker 1: maybe somebody else comes in from WWE or TNA or
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  Speaker 1: start a new Japan.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: So let's just talk about that five years from now,
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  Speaker 1: where do you see AW got to.
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  Speaker 5: Be that guy?
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  Speaker 2: I don't see a relationship with TNA for uh into
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  Speaker 2: the unforeseeable future. You know, they're they're in bed. The
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  Speaker 2: TNA is in bed with ww There's no.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody may leave DNA because they don't want to be
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  Speaker 1: associated with WWE and they may want to get more money.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully aj styles.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Possibility.
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  Speaker 2: I would like like there are a lot twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: seven is the year that that's the renaissance. That's that's
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  Speaker 2: when a lot of big time WWE guys are going
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  Speaker 2: to be on the cost for resigning. You got guys
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  Speaker 2: like Sammy's and Kevin Owens. You got guys like from
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  Speaker 2: the TNA side, like Ziggler, you got you got a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people that are like gonna have to make
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  Speaker 2: the decision where am I going to take the next
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  Speaker 2: step into my career? Now, if I were to answer
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  Speaker 2: that question, I would probably say, it's very possible that
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  Speaker 2: we might see MG have another come up, and I
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  Speaker 2: see a lot of our talent now that have come
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  Speaker 2: over from.
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  Speaker 5: WWE going back to WWE.
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  Speaker 2: Now, it recently came out that Malachi Black, Alista, Black,
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  Speaker 2: Tommy Next, whatever you want to call him, whatever he
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  Speaker 2: chooses to find him to define himself as is technically
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  Speaker 2: on a no compete for the next couple of months.
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  Speaker 2: Could you imagine him going back to WWE. But then
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  Speaker 2: we got guys like Elias who just signed with ROH.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we could see a resurgence of a lot
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  Speaker 2: of big things, you know, like the Trios titles for example.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if we're on the cusp of getting something
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  Speaker 2: like women's tag titles and it's handled appropriately. That could
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  Speaker 2: be a sign that they're revitalizing the entire program for
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  Speaker 2: AW and we actually might have things five years down
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  Speaker 2: the road, like a lot of younger talent holding titles.
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  Speaker 2: We might see someone like Kyle Fletcher holding a world championship.
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  Speaker 2: You might see someone like Sky Blue holding a women's
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  Speaker 2: World championship, which would be fantastic. Someone like Billy Starks,
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  Speaker 2: you know, jumping past a ring of Honor or Again,
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  Speaker 2: dare I say Athena? You know Athena is carrying the
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  Speaker 2: Ring of Honor product I think she is. It's quite
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  Speaker 2: probable that we could see her in UH as an
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  Speaker 2: AW world champion. I'm hopeful, Yeah, very much so.
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  Speaker 5: I think the problem is right now is overcrowding. You
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  Speaker 5: can't fit everything into the four hours of show time
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  Speaker 5: they have every week. If you add a women's tag
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  Speaker 5: team division, which will be an awesome thing to do,
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  Speaker 5: where do you put them? You you don't have right now.
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  Speaker 5: You struggle to put more than one women's match on
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  Speaker 5: a show as it is now. Adding in another whole
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  Speaker 5: subset of show of matches is going to be impossible.
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  Speaker 5: That what was the show that was supposed to start.
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  Speaker 1: They did the shock wave.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they need they need another show, regardless of because
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  Speaker 5: they have so much talent. You can't fit everybody in
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  Speaker 5: in a normal for two show week. There's just no ton.
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  Speaker 2: So let me let me reverse. Let me reverse that statement,
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  Speaker 2: like I actually have an idea and bear with me, Like,
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  Speaker 2: what if we eliminated all of the meaningless squash matches
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  Speaker 2: that led to minute long promos and supplemented them with
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  Speaker 2: meaningful matches that you know, equate to more developed stories.
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  Speaker 2: Because we have a lot of matches with guys like
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  Speaker 2: Hobbs for example, who will They'll put him in the
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  Speaker 2: ring with two guys, will squash them in less than
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  Speaker 2: thirty five seconds, and then he'll say I'm coming after Max,
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  Speaker 2: drop the mic and walk out. We'll put them in.
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  Speaker 5: The ring with Here's the problem with that. Here's the
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  Speaker 5: problem with that. If you have a normal show, you'll
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  Speaker 5: have maybe one or two of those, so that's two,
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  Speaker 5: maybe two to five minutes of the show. You replace
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  Speaker 5: that with a a match that has significance, you still
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  Speaker 5: not have enough ton. You just don't. I mean, if
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  Speaker 5: you have if you have four hours show or two
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  Speaker 5: our show and you have six matches on it, you
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  Speaker 5: can't think I mean, they struggle to put people in
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  Speaker 5: every on the card.
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  Speaker 1: Now look, look, this is just my opinion, and you
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  Speaker 1: can agree with me. You could disagree with me. But
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  Speaker 1: I'll just use the death Writers as an example. You
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  Speaker 1: get the death writers. What I think what the shows
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  Speaker 1: last week? They were in three different segments. They had
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  Speaker 1: two matches at a run in, well they actually had
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  Speaker 1: three run ins, but they had one area where they
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  Speaker 1: just ran in. All that time that was spent on
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  Speaker 1: the death Writers could definitely be spent on one or
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  Speaker 1: two meaningful matches.
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  Speaker 5: I would agree there.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you can do that.
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  Speaker 5: You can do that, but it still leaves you a
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  Speaker 5: lot of talent that just can't be put in the show.
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  Speaker 5: That's why you know, you how long has it been
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  Speaker 5: since you've seen Kitah? How long has it been since
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  Speaker 5: you've I mean, I know Rio was hurt. But that's
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  Speaker 5: the two examples of people who are important to the show.
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  Speaker 5: Have we've seen in ages?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, to be fair, this is the second question from
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  Speaker 2: the community. I mean, like we feel that AW put
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  Speaker 2: itself into a holding pattern, like it's in a slumper
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  Speaker 2: right now. Is it actually in a slump or is
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  Speaker 2: it a perceived is it perceived in the media. I mean, like, like,
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  Speaker 2: I believe personally that AW isn't a slump. With how
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  Speaker 2: they're booking and how they book these types of matches.
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  Speaker 2: I think, you know, I agree with you that we
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  Speaker 2: need a new another two hours of time, But what
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  Speaker 2: what does that matter if we're gonna get two hours
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  Speaker 2: of time and repeat the same processes that put us
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  Speaker 2: in the position that we're in in the first place.
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  Speaker 5: Opposite, I'm gonna have the exact opposite of what you
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  Speaker 5: can say. I don't think they're in a holding pattern.
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  Speaker 5: They're not because because everybody's got such a bad thing
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  Speaker 5: with the Death Riders, that's not the only thing going
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  Speaker 5: on in AW. I don't think that subsets of obbs
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  Speaker 5: you've got, you've got them coming in. You've got so
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  Speaker 5: many people right now involved in different things. You've got
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  Speaker 5: the Death Riders, You've got MJF and and Trip and
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  Speaker 5: Double J. You've got a resurgent of the Undisputed Kingdom.
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  Speaker 5: You've got the stuff between Kenny Omega and Osprey and
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  Speaker 5: the Don Kallis family. That's four programs on the men's side.
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  Speaker 5: Then you've got Yeah, you've got LFI that's starting to
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  Speaker 5: do some stuff. So they're not in a holding pattern.
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  Speaker 5: It's just I think a lot of people they get
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  Speaker 5: into that mentality that they want things to be their
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  Speaker 5: way now, and when it doesn't happen, they decide to
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  Speaker 5: lash out and say, well this ain't for me anymore,
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  Speaker 5: instead of sitting back and watching the show and going,
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  Speaker 5: oh wow, we got a ton of shit going on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Personally, I don't fall into that category. I've always been
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  Speaker 2: historically the person that wants to see them rip the
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  Speaker 2: banded off and do crazy things and and break that mold.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean like that.
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  Speaker 2: That's that All of aw's best programming has been that
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  Speaker 2: type of program you know, like we're gonna do something
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  Speaker 2: that's so against That's what built this company. They are
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  Speaker 2: the against the grain company. They're that company that tried
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  Speaker 2: to recapture professional wrestling from an era of professional wrestling
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  Speaker 2: that came from that renaissance of wrestling where you were
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: actually getting new things. Now we've we're seeing a lot
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: of things repeat. The death Riders thing is starting to
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: look and I'm saying it. I'm gonna say it. Playing
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: as day Sudden and you're gonna pick up on this immediately,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: and you might disagree with the portion of it, but
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: it's looking kind of like post Russo nWo bro like like,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: it's looking very like like hey, like like they're not
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: what have we done different with the Death Riders in
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: the past two and a half to three months.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: Saturday night, Saturday Night? Yeah, actually Saturday Night, because they
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: did not dominate the end of the show and they
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: did not beat down the faces that on Saturday Night. Yeah. Yeah.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: But the problem with that, sudden is that they have
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: been they have been doing the same thing so many times.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: And I can tell you from like the live chat
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: that we did on aw fan ub subreddit. Everybody left
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: when the when the Death Writers came on. I watched
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: that match. It's one of those things where when they
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: don't it's it's not that nobody cares about the Death Writers,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: it's that it is very true that there are many
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: people that don't care about the Death Writers, you know,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: And it's just as simple as that.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: And look, the problem is people were complaining they're doing
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: the same thing and they didn't. That's the whole point.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: Everybody's oh, it's got to change this way now, but
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: when they change it, everybody's like, well, they're still doing
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: the same thing.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: No, they're not.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: When they got when when the UH rated FTR came
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: out and they did that match, it was a good match,
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: and in the end Marx got the crap beat out
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: of them and they turntail and ran with alcohol.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Death in there. That's great. But I'm going to tell
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: you this, and I mean this app absolutely and sincerely,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I don't care. I've done. I've done with the Death Riders,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: and I am not the only one. That's what I'm saying.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: But as many pops are complaining about it, there are
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: that many people who like it, and the fans were
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: into that match. If you didn't watch it, you don't
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: know because you didn't watch the reaction.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: My favorite part was when Wheeler you'd have get absolutely destroyed.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Us changed everything that I couldn't care there was.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: There was nothing about that match that was the same
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: that they've been doing with the Death Writers, not one
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: thing they had. The Faces came out, they completely turned
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: around what everybody's been complaining about. That was everybody's major
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: bitch was, well they keep the beat that the Faces
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: are playing dumb faces. They didn't play Dumb Faces on Saturday,
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: and who knows what's gonna happen this week. It could
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: be starting the breakdown down of the Death Writers to
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: change it around.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: And it only took them five months or whatever, a
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: many months. It did.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Nothing they talked about doing has been been done, changing
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: a w making everything different.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Where where did all that go?
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Like people, well hold on really quick. From Suton's perspective,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: he's actually right. The they they did to change that
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: element of the program, the dumb Faces didn't come out
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: since Cope got mixed into the Death Writer's story. They're
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: actually stored. I'm not gonna use the term elevate because
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: it's not elevated yet, but it's getting there and it
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: is a departure from the normal Death Writers slog. However,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: if you want to break up the Death Writer's story,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: you have to you have to do something with you
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: to specifically like, yeah, it's great to see him get
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: his ass kicked, but if you're just gonna let him
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: get beat up as the guy that's gonna get beat
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: up as he's JD McDonough Max, and I'm gonna I'm
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: gonna pass it off to you.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: I have apologize.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I yet that, like I apologize for interrupting you.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: But like, look what they did with j D McDonough
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: at the end before he uh, like the end of
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: last week, like he they actually had him show out
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: and he came out and then he injured himself doing it.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: He actually looked like a professional. They they're not made,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: they're not tape making those concessions with Wheeler Wheeler Ude.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: He's coming out emulating all of Daniel's Danielson's moves, getting
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: his and he's one of the few guys and the
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Death Riders that's getting his ass beat consistently. Do you
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: not agree with that statement?
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: I do agree with it in a way, but well,
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: but my problem is is that a the Death Riders
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: are too saturated in every show, like was what was
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: said earlier Coaling, Like what was said earlier, the Death
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: Riders were like four different segments. That that's they're in
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: way too much, too many segments, and their segments usually
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: go for a while. That I think they need to
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: cut that back and they need to start selling moves.
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: They need to start selling they need to look more
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: like beatable because that's because right now they look too
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: unstoppable and it's killing the rest of the product.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Well, the only unbeatable person in the Death Rids is
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Marina Shafir. Sorry, not sorry, I'm only saying that because
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: she doesn't ask, she doesn't ever compete, So like, why
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: that's most.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Well, well, look, I want to bring the I want
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: to bring the discussion back on topic though, because you
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: were talking about the storylines and there is a thing
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: that I wanted to bring up. You know, uh we're
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: talking about is a W in a slump. Okay, But
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: this also goes back to our first topic is where
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: do we see the company in five years? Look, in
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: five years, there's going to be a lot of these,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: especially in the men's division, But there are some women's
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: division that I can guarantee you they're not going to
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: be in a W anymore, Adam Copland ft r Uh,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: They're definitely not going to be with adem you anymore.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: They'll be long retired. Chris Jericho will be seventy two
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: years old and he'll still be out there doing Lion
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Peppers or whatever the hell he's doing.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: The Mexican number for fifteen.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: No, dude, Jericho is coming out as a cyborg dude yeah.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: But my point is is that we were talking about,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: you know, the storylines and the booking and creative it
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: all doesn't have to be done in a day. Stuff
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: can take time. But we've got young talent in AW
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: that do need to get somewhat of a push right now,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: you know, so that they can show out three years
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: when they're needed.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: But Kelsen, the problem is that most of those people,
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: most of those young guns are in Ring of Honor,
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: and they and if they want to start now, Tony
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: needs to people like Philly Starts and so annoyed that
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: because that's your future right there.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I agree with you. I mean, they need to
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: at least be shown on pay per views. You know,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: people do watch the Rig of Honor pay per views
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: without watching the Rig of Honor weekly shows, because the
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Rig of Honor pay per views are every bit as
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: good as AW pay per views. And I will die
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: on that I will die on that hill. Might I
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: love watching those pay per views. But but my point
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: is is that you've got to start building that talent
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: pretty soon because once these old people get out of here.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Even in the Women's mission, you got Emmy Sakara, you
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: got Hakarushida Rijo. Maybe not the oldest, but they have
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: visa problems, they got other things going on, they're away
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: from home, you know, things like that. So you've got
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: to make plans and not just rest on your laurels
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: for today. I love I love what they're doing with
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Billy Starks. I love what they did, what they've been
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: doing with like Red Velvet and Ring of Honor. I
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: absolutely adore what they're doing with Commander, you know. So
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: I mean these are young guys the end, young women
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: that have ten fifteen years of wrestling ahead of them.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: You know, Look at Penta. I mean, Peta is a
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: great talent. He's forty years old. He's not going to
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: be able to especially to style Diddie Russell's He's not
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: going to be able to do this for so as
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: much as long. You know, I would much rather have
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: a healthy bandido over somebody like Maid. You know, and
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I don't mean this disrespectfully against Penta at all, but
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I would rather have a healthy bandido than a Penta
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: that's perpetually you know, perpetually not healthy. Well, especially with
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Ray Phoenix.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can agree with that. I can't agree with
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: that whole art.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: I mean the question. The question is almost impossible to
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: answer because look what's happened in the last year in
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: a W monet Osprey. You know, all these guys and
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: women that have come into the show. Who the hell
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: is gonna know who's going to be in this year.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: There's so many people that are gonna be free agents
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: this year. So you know, I don't see AW getting
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: any worse than it is now. I see it growing
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: like it's been growing. I mean, they're not This isn't
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: something that's just happened overnight. If they started out Potter maybe,
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: but they're still on the upswing and it's just gonna
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: be one of those things where you've got a good
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: core of young to mid age people who they can
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: just keep building on and it's gonna keep getting better
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: and better. And the more the WWE continues to screw
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: around with what they do, it's going to make companies
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: like a W and T. Well, not TNA because it's
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: working with AW or WW, but you know it's gonna
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: make these other companies have a better chance to get
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: into a bigger spot.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what I'm saying is like, okay, so
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: we're obviously going to have Adam Copland facing John Moxley,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: not bringing the Death Riders into it, but Adam Colplan
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: versus John Moxley for the aw World Heavyweight Championship. That's
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: gonna be a great match that I would much rather
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: see somebody younger. I would rather see, you.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: Know, I would transitional. It's just like when Orange Cassidy
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: went up against him the first time. He's a transitional match.
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: It's going to be one of those matches that I
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: think he's wrestled every portion of the group. He wrestled,
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: seth Rawlins, he wrestled uh much. I can't think of
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: Roman Reign.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: You're touching on balor his last magic like Edges.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but my point is, and I'm so glad
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: you brought this up, Suddon, because back when Orange Cassidy
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: was the challenger for this was in November, I believe,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: when he became the challenger for the World Championship, what
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: did we call him the transitional Challenger. We're now calling
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: in February or even who knows, it could be March
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: before that match happens, you know, in March ninth and revolution,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: we're now calling Adam Copeland the transitional challenger four months later.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's going to be the good challenger, the big one.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Who's the next transitional challenger. It's getting.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: There may not be another one asking this, but the
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: program is still running the course they wanted to run.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: It'll go into whoever is the champion. They're gonna all
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: be transitional. No one's beating marks until they get to
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: the final, the final thing. Most likely, it's going to
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: go until uh Danielson can come back. And he's not
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: gonna win the title, but he's gonna have he'll he'll
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: have a role to play.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll have a little to play as a mentor.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: But we need.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: The death Riders. He's gonna end up being what causes
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: the Death Riders to get destroyed because he's going to
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: help in destroying them one by one.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: They're doing a good job destroying themselves.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: They don't need any a W needs to do some
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: sort of fan service. I said this on our podcast
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: last week.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: They need to do.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: We have eight championships in a W and seven of
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: them are held by heels, and I brought up I
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: brought up an example last week where I brought up
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: w c W what Hulk Cogan had that championship, and
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: they had this young upstart that had momentum named Bill
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Goldberg who won the championship. The fans lost their minds.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: That is what a w Why Why would this is
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: what I don't understand about Tony Kahn's booking. Why would
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: he expect somebody to watch his shows just to be
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: depressed all the time, sucking mute your mike.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: No, but Kilse, Kilse. I think I may have a
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: solution to our daf Ryder problem.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I kill it with fire, That's my solution.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: No, I say, Tony needs to bring back ward.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I disagreeing World is a great wrestler, but having somebody
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: having the whole men's locker room get absolutely humiliated by
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: the death writers. Only have somebody that hasn't shown up,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: you know that Ben at work or whatever, not booked
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: to work for god knows how many months to come
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: in suddenly take over. No, it's gonna be any It's
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: it's got to be somebody like Swerve, m j F.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Kank Man An Paige.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: It's going to be asprey after the it'll happen. It
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: will be Osprey or can you omega And it will
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: start to happen after their match in Australia.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be you want it to be Kenny.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I do not want it to be Kenny. It would
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: love it.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: If it was j White, or or it might be Hobbes.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: Who knows. But that's the nice thing about it is
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: it's still building and we'll figure they'll figure it out.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: After the mask that they have in March, when it's
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: at Copan and him go.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: It's it's gonna be Kenny. I'm gonna tell you why.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: There is a lot of story behind both Kenny versus
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Jay and Kenny versus Osprey. It's a feud between Ospray
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: or j White that builds itself. You know, who's gonna
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: be the guy to take down the best bout machine?
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Kenny is going after every like. Look at the promo
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: with Kenny and Osprey when uh during that the first
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Dynamite that they were both back in the ring together.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: You know, Kenny didn't touch on anything other than, hey,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I'm the best in the world and you cheated to
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: try to pretend to be the best in the world.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I am Kenny Omega. If you're the best bout machine,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: beat me clean. And then they went to hey, man
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: if can't beat him, join them. You know, Jay White
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: came out what a week later, you know, and then
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: then made it look believable that there might be friction
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: between the three of them. I think that's the direction
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: that would be smart for them to go, but it
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: would be too harkened back to Kelson, you know what
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: I love about your new computer?
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I could hear you breathing.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I can't tell.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: Getting over.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: I am breathing like a you know, somebody that's been sick.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: No, you and and you know what, I'm glad to
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: hear that you're on the men. Brother.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: Yes, I'm just.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: Saying you're still breathing.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: We're not.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: We're not hearing breath.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: We all thought you were a robot.
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: Because you.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Have to.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: You have to understand something. You're on camera and you're
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: up and walking around and you're so damn sexy.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: So we can't.
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: He's got that, he's got that uh educated look where
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: he's got his and on his his hand, his chin's
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: resting on his arm, and he's just sitting there staring
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: at the camera. That's where it froze for me.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: But before we go any further, I want to back
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: up a little bit because when we started talking about
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: do we think that the aw's creative and storylines are
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: in a holding pattern? That question was asked by that
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Triangle seven to twenty on the aw phanub subreddit, and
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: we kind of already morphed into the third thing, which is, uh,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: who will be the guy to win and take the
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: title off of John Moxley? That was asked by Paison
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: for you on the aw fanub subreddit. But one thing
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: that we didn't answer in Paison's question was when when
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: should this happen? When should John Moxley lose this match?
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: How long do you think that he should hold the title? Work?
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Because to me, it's obvious that Adam Copland is not
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: the guy that's going to take the title. Offer. When
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: do you think would be the optimal time for John
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Moxley to lose the champions? All in Texas Dynamite tomorrow.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: Tomorrow? But Texas.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: Wouldn't.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't say.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Look as a pro wrestling fan, I'm an agent of chaos.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Do I ever think it's gonna be Tomorrow Dynamite? Absolutely not.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: But I mean, like there is a part of me
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: that like grew up with.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: A w c W.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: I want to see some ping ponging every now and then,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: like like, let's get a title match tomorrow, Let's drop
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: it off of them, Let's ping pong pong that belt
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: around a little bit and then slap it on someone
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: that you know it looks a little more convincing on.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: And I think Moxley's fantastic, and I think he's a
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: convincing champion, but I think there are better guys on
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: the roster, so more deserving of the title. I love
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: how I love how you can name Daddy Quiet and
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: in this Chattis you.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: Can name the entire roster and every single person, except
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: for maybe a few, are worthy of holding the title
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: I can think of. I mean, I wouldn't want to
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: see it on Jeff Jarrett. I definitely don't want to
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: see it on Christian. You know I would love to
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: see I would because I can't stand Christian. I would
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: love to see I would love to see Copeland win
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: the title just for the fact that it gives him
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: a title on a w but not not as a champion, no,
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: I mean like the world title, not just the TNT,
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: the world title. I'd love to see him at the
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: world title just because.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: It look I'm going to break up something here because
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: something you just brought up, something that kind of proves
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: that what we were talking about is kind of weak.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: That is the fact that Christian has been walking around
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: with that basically money in the bank clipboard for now
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: and we didn't even break him up until half hand
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: sudden mentioned.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Him, Hey, whatever happened to like whatever had a like
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Darby Allen's next, Hurrah go Darby, Like I know what
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, Like not that he's out of the picture,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: it's just I'm I'm very confused. Like I'm very confused
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: because it's a lot going on all at once with
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: no clear or definitive like uh like angle as to
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: like who could potentially be the next And I don't
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: think this is not a company that's ever been known
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: to bait and switch their fans, like so like it
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: looks like Kenny, it looks like Kenny Omega, it looks
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: like Osprey, or it looks like Jay White might be next.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: But like my son just mentioned, the the thing about
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: Darby is if Darby wasn't going to climb out Everest,
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: which is his thing he has to do this year
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: for whatever reason, it probably would have been over by.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Now, is anybody up there?
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: I think he's I'm not sure.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: When he's climbing April, I believe is what is what
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I read?
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: They're waiting because there's a queue that long.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Wait Darby is actually gonna climb out ever, yeah.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I mean it gets up there. He's going to jump
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: off a cliff into a cup of water because.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Hands is actually going to climb up there in point
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: and a W banner.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, that's what going to jump. They're going
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: to jump up out of the snow and attacking exactly.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: That's where Darby wins the title.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: The whole just gonna throw him off Mount Everest.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Tony Con isn't booking him to drop the title off
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: of Everest yet, it's not happening. We're talking about long,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: long term storytelling. Everest has to beat him a couple
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: more times, knock him down. He's got to do the
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: cracker barrel, but the cracker Barrel Everest deathmatch first.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Joe, Joey Jane, and.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Hey, you know what we haven't counted on is Eddie
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Kingston making a show a show and just destroying Moxley
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: and getting the title back.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: He can do the with he can do like the the.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: The it is when you've got a physical specimen like
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Eddie Kingston.
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: Oh here we go.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: You just you just expect, he said, was said, get
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: into a ring and losing is like the most preposterous
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: thing ever.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: He's due.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: He looks great.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Eddie Kingston looks like a pack of hot dogs. And
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: I mean like the six pack per version, not not
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: like that. He's had too many versions.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, come on, I mean, from now, you're gonna
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: have Eddie Kingston as the He's gonna have four titles.
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: He's gonna have the Continent and he's gonna have the
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: Continent Classic. He's gonna win it again. He's gonna be
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: World Champion. He's gonna have the tag titles and the
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: Trio Championship. He's gonna have them all five years.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: He's also gonna be the n x T World champions.
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: In the women's World Champion.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: He's on an they're gonna create, They're gonna they're gonna
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: get rid of the inter International title, the Continental tie.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: They're going to combine it and make the Incontinent title
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: for Eddie Kingston. But you know, I mean Kingston like.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: The world wakes up and realizes that Eddie Kingston could
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: be the glue that brings all these promotions together because
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: he's already got a w Yeah, he could be that guy.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: He could come out there and looked right down the
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: camera and be like, you know what, I'm a hard
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: new Yorker. New York is is the reason. And now
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: everybody got to get along and thens in five years
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: might by then.
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: It's hard to tell, you never know.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, it depends on how harder Triple H screws
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: up the women's division and w W.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Speaking of the women's division. Speaking of the women's division, Shane,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: let's move on to the next topic. Let's do a segue.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: Okay, so.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Hold on, because if I remember correctly, with with their
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: first televised win, we were we were talking, we were
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: gonna try to talk about Harley Cameron, and I got
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: distracted by Harley Cameron because of everything that was going
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: on with the Jericho Cruz last week. By the way,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I docked and deployed from the same port on a
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: cruise that the Jericho crew. I was so mad last
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: week because I was in the same dog as the
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Jericho Cruse departing on the same day, in the same hour,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: and I was I looked at my wife and I'm like, oh,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: what are you doing this? Should Harley Cameron get a
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: tutle shot against Mercedes monea Grand Slam? She won a
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: match against Tyer Valkyrie, and you had to excuse Shane
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: because he was on a cruise like a peasant that
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: he is, while we had sat at home and watch Collision.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: For him, I would not be anywhere else, to be honest.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: By Yeah, Harley Cameron beat Tyle Valkyrie and got her
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: first television win on Saturday night at Collision, and she
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: challenged Mercedes Monett a couple of times over the week
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: and Mercedes Monette said no both times. Of course, Harley
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: is from the Gold Coast of Australia, the same as
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Tony Storm.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: And you know, well, well, I'm not trying to say
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to say this to be funny, but
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind if Harley Cameron was the first winner
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: of the women's tag team titles, just two different personalities
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: of her like and then just have Tony Storm and
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: two different personalities that Darmy Storm go for the tag
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: team titles like that. That would be fun Yeah, that
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: would be.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Fun, well could be. How about Harley Cameron and Mercedes
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Monet the hand puppet get that championship.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: I don't think anyone. I don't think Tony takes it
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: serious enough. I think it's gonna be another fodder man,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: which was just sad because Harley Cameron truly like button
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: you said it. I'm gonna credit you for this forever.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Every single time I'm behind a microphone, every single second
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: that Harley Cameron spends on cameras utilizes every single minute
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: in such an effective way that that where she knows
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: she's a Dusty Rhodes for for women comedian wrestlers. She
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: knows how to look at her crowd and sell what
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: she's doing to that, and she's fantastic. I would love
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: to see her with a belt on her. I don't
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: think it's gonna be a world championship. I don't think
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be the TBS. I think we'll see her
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: with an r H championship. You know, imagine that transition.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: We go from Athena into AEW and Harley Cameron taking
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: that off of her, and then Athena is the world champion,
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: and then you know it's believable again.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I don't see Harley Cameron winning anything. But frankly,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: do you want to see her? Do you want to
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: see her get a match at Grand Slam against Mercedes Monette?
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Keep in mind that this this is only a two
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: hour show and win? Why not win?
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Who cares about the Oh? If we want to take
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: liberties with storytelling, let's rip the bandit off and do
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: some weird shit.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: I'm there, I agree with you. I mean, let her
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: have a you know, get a few wins under her belt,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: you know, two or three, and then have Mercedes kick
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: her ass.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: You know, got a credit Mercedes man will A lot
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: of backpedaling this community did with Mercedes in terms of
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: how she's elevated the women's division in aw she might
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: have been, she might be the call of women's professional wrestling.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I've been singing her praises for weeks now. I mean
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: I've done a complete one eight on her. I mean
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't appreciate her when she came in because I
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: thought that her matches were not up to snuff, and
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I thought that her promos were pretty bad. I think
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: she's hitting on all cylinders right now. Yeah, there's been
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: a couple of matches that weren't as good, but I
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: kind of attribute that to not really knowing her opponent
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: as well as some of the others opponents and the communication.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, her match against you Kauza Kazaki was good,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: but it got out to a really rough start.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: I have a question for the panel kills. You know
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: who's gonna beat Mercedes.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Harley Cameron.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be Harley. I wouldn't mind
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: if it was.
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: I would not mind Harley Cameron taking that off of Mercedes. Yeah,
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: I actual, you know, I just want anyone to beat Mercedes,
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: just anyone.
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: I don't think.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think that you're gonna see anybody beat Mercedes
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: for a little while. Down I will. And I'm going
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: to tell you why I think Harley Cameron is going
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: to face Mercedes at in at Grand Slam Australia. I
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: think that the next opponent for Mercedes is the person
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: that I think was meant to be mercedes first challenger,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: uh when Mercedes came in at Big Business in Boston
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: last year, and that's Julia Hart. I do think that
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Julia Hart's gonna get a chance and not win it,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: and then I think it's probably gonna more than likely
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: be somebody like Chris Statlander in you know, Monette Statlander
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: three and stat Lander finally gets her flowers because she
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: did put on she did put on two fantastic matches
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: with Monette, and she did the job for two matches
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: with Monette, And maybe that's where we're at.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Uh, pops up out of nowhere and take.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: The Only problem with that, Max is that Camille would
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: be popping up out of it nowhere. I mean, if
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: they want to have Camille beat Mercedes in like all In,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Camille has to come back this week, not two weeks
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: before all In and then have her win. That's this
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: that's not good storytelling.
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: Toby Dinah Steele.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: I mean she went on national television and dogged the
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: company that she signed with, like five weeks before before
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: she signed with them. I mean, that's not you know,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Tony Khan has a god I don't want to be
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: this guy. Tony kh has a habit of not being
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: so nice to people that do it that way. I mean,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: she does anyone, Can anyone be a validate if she's
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: injured or not or.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Hey, it could just be a work too.
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: I mean, oh, yeah, and she recently appeared on one
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: of Jim Cornett's podcasts, so that definitely ruined any of
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: her chances.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: I would say that, I mean, Cornett sucks. Everyone knows me,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: knows that I hate Jim Cornette for you can't deny
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: his contributions to professional wrestling. He you can't deny it. Unfortunately,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: It's one of those things. It's like Haul Kogan hate him,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: you should hate him because he's a piece of No, you.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: Cannot compare Jim Cornett and whole Cogan.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: No, that can't happen, bro, this is not the podcast.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Yes, you most certainly can because they made
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: the same type of types of mistakes. And you shouldn't
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: give a platform to people that marginalize people based off
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: of who they are without choice. And that's as much
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: as I'm gonna say about that. I mean, like I
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: will net like it's you cannot deny that Cornett was
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: a promoter that brought eyes onto professional wrestling, just like
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: you can't deny that WWE almost WWF almost built its
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: entire platform on the back of Hulkogan. That's a fact,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: but that does not But it's the same thing as
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: you know, like the founding fathers of America.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I mean they all.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying nothing else. This is not a politics podcast.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: There's a pro wrestling one. You might even want to
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: cut this a little bit from this, Kelson, because this
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: could get real, real, real, real quick.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: We'll just stop talking about it. We'll just there with
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: saying that Jim Cornett loves Japanese women's wrestling.
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: And.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: You know, is is is Uh.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: This is obviously his lover, and Kay and Kenny Omega
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: are absolutely best friends.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: They are. But anyway, let's get to uh, go ahead.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Yo, dude, you know what happened last week that I
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: missed on the cruise, that Righteous bit with a lot Elias?
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Is he going by Elias?
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: And yeah, well that just broke yesterday.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: That broke yesterday, Yeah, that was just yesterday.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: He's going Elijah is going by Elias. Now he's with
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: the Righteous.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to feel about this, because I
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: kind of like, I like Elias. Uh, the Righteous got
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: so much.
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: I think I think adding him is going to make
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: them a very pop group. He's one of those guys.
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: He's only one of those guys in WWE that was
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: basically underutilized. He was there to be fodder for John
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: Cena and anybody else they wanted to have somebody to
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: beat down on. And I mean, I don't even know.
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: After I stopped watching it, I mean he was still around.
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: But prior to that, he didn't do anything. He was
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: just he was just one of those guys.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, prior to that. I mean, I can tell you
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: about his legacy at NXT. He spent his first eleven
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: matches getting the crap beat out of him, and they
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: paired him with everybody, and like he got beat when
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: he was with guys that were way bigger than he was.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: But I mean, he's Joe Hendry. He's Joe Hendry without
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: the hype. That's the thing.
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: He's just one of those guys that if they would
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: have used him correctly in WWE, he could have been
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: huge because he had the steals on the mic. I
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: mean the three times I saw him wrestling, wasn't that
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: bad a wrestler?
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: Hey, man, Like Kevin Owen's rip with him, like you're
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: there's there's no twin, there's no twin, Like you're the
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: same guy, You're the same guy. That was actually fun.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: That was fun.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: That was.
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: Wrestling, if Tony could do with him what he's done
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: with uh, some of the guys that come over from WWE,
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: like Shelton, that didn't get the opportunities that they should
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: have gotten. If he can build him up on this,
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: even if it's an r o H, I mean, he's
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: got a guy that could elevate the Righteous to spot
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: to make them somebody to watch an in r o H.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Really really truly could Yeah. Well I'm gonna say this,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean this sincerely. Is that I'm as
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: you guys well know, I'm the type of person that
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: if I don't like something, I don't watch it. And
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: the Righteous were on my list of people that I
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: stop watching change the channel as soon as they came
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: on because they are just so awful in my eyes,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: boring as hell, no charisma at all, what And I
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: just I just think they're awful. And but now that
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Elias where Elijah is with them, I'll give them a
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: fair shot. See if it improves them. But if it's
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: the same old, same all, it's channel changing for me.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Don't like the Righteous, don't like the Outrunners,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: never have, never will, won't watch them.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Man, it's clear to me that you are not a
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: fan of the rob Zombie House of a Thousand Corpses
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: movie movies. I mean, like, I'm sorry, I like for
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: those of you that are not hip, like, that's like that,
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: that's the gimmick, that's the game make that's what they're doing.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: That's the thing.
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: I can see them doing a little bit of a
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: Wyatt family kind of thing if they really wanted.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: To, depending on who.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: The fans are already saying that it's.
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: It's not a ripoff though, who cares? I mean, are.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Already saying, oh Elias is in r O H. Now
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: good he sucked.
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Well that's like I said, he comes down to
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: if he can do what he's done for x WW
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: guys that didn't get a shot, Eligi could be a
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: huge in in. He could be used for them and
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: w W fans. Who cares what they think because they're
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: w W fans, they don't watch the product. Who cares?
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: I mean emitting to wrestling fans care? I mean, uh,
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: I agree with you?
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: Though.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Well, let's start wrapping this up, and let's wrap it
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: up by getting to our pot pirie section. Our segment,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: does anybody have a pot prie that they want to
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: talk about. Would you like me to bring mine up
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: because I do have a little something that I wanted
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: to say, and.
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: That would be.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: On Sunday, Stardom held day four on four women's tag
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: team match. And again, if anybody has ever listened to
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: our podcast before, you will know that I don't like
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: multi man or multi women matches. And they had this match,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: and I have to say, as four on four matches go,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: this was one of the best matches that I have
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. It was hard hitting, it
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: add story to it, it had emotion. It was did
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  Speaker 1: I say hard hitting, I mean it was insane. And
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  Speaker 1: these women, I mean there was I can't remember everybody
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  Speaker 1: in the match, but I know that Thekla was in
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: the match, Mama Watatabi was in the match, Mina Shirakawa,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Hanako Rina, there was others. I'm sorry I can't remember.
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  Speaker 1: But the match was shown for free on YouTube by Stardom,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: and I believe you can still go watch it if
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: you do find a video from Sunday. The match begins
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: around the thirty five minute mark because there was a
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: few segments before it. Unfortunately, during the match, Mina Shirakawa
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: suffered an injury and it was announced today by Startup
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: that she's going to be out an indefinite amount of
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: time with that injury. I did not see where she
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: got injured. However, there was a segment where she was
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: in the ropes and her opponent grabbed her by the mouth, uh,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: you know, like rip back on her mouth. And if
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: you don't know, two years ago, Sayakamatadi did a phoenix
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  Speaker 1: splash on two of them, actually on Mina shi Kala.
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  Speaker 1: The second one she landed on Mina shi Kawa's face
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  Speaker 1: and basically broke her jaw and dislided some teeth. And
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Mina Shi Kaya's reaction after that happened was heartbreaking, It
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: really was. I mean you could tell right away that
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: there was something wrong. Well, during this rope break, what
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: the referee called for the rope break on this match,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Mina shehir Kyala immediately grabbed at her mouth. I would
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: not be surprised if she she did fracture her jaw
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: or something in that match. With that move. It was
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: just a it isn't move, you know, It wasn't malicious
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: by any mean shape or form. But the way she
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: grabbed her mat her mouth after that move was broken
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: up by the referee. Was it was pretty much a
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: mirror image of how she grabbed her mouth after the
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Phoenix splash botch that happened two years ago.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes, you know.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: So I just wanted to bring that up. If you
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: do have a chance to go watch that match, please
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: do because I don't think you'll be disappointed. And also
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to bring it up because I do
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: want to wish Mina Shirakawa a speedy and full and
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: healthy recovery.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 7: Anybody else with any pot pourri, Yeah, yeah, go ahead,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 7: I almost said, I almost said simply it's okay, you
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  Speaker 7: go first, net.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate you. No, I just want to say, like,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: you know, a lot of times when we get to
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: the pot pourri, there are topics that look like what
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: they don't look like. I just want to say, like,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: some of the people on the Jericho Cruise took some
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: a little bit of bad press because they were up
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: there party and having a good time. Man, that's their
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Halloween Christmas party. Du Let those people go out there
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: and have a great time. That Jericho Cruse looked like
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: it was a blast. Those people work their asses off
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: for us a year round. If they want to go
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: out there and party and have a good time, immerse
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: themselves with the fans, have a couple of beverages, go
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: a little wild. Good for them, Good for them?
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah. And I hope that the scoys and girls
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: you know so far killing.
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  Speaker 5: Most of the people that are complaining about it are
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: the ones that are jealous because they didn't get to go.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: I'm complaining about it.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: It went there, net Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I had a thought.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: I was watching Collision.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: I know we're in trouble.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: I was watching Collision Saturday, and I was watching Chris
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: Jericho and and I've been thinking with his learning tree
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: and he's always evolving and changing, I think that Chris
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: Jericho is letting his gorgeous blonde hair go white, and
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: he is somehow going to turn this into he is
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: the prophet of a w here to bestow his wisdom
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: on everyone else. I think that's what he's going to
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: do and somehow parlay that into his retirement.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: But I just have a feeling that that's what he's
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: up to, and he's going to become the leader of
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: the righteous ones. Who was what.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: Is that going to be an infringement on what the
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: righteous do now, I mean, that's kind of that's kind
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: of odd.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: Well, uh, my daughter actually has a Pope prix because
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: she's been I didn't here watching us do one. And
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: she said, she's glad that Samoa Joe is back on
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: TV because she gets to see Hook wrestle again.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: And I'm glad that Tom and Joe is back so
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: she can see Hook. What is wrong with her?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: She has a crush on Hook. So we.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: All, we all, that's what.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: That's that's up.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: That's up. He's a cold hearted, handsome double for they
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  Speaker 1: don't call him that for nothing.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: This is parenting one O one.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: How is your daughter?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: She's thirteen?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: She's learning about the greatness of what we men are
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: men soap opera.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, Kelson, this is a great show man.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: We we really brought this all the way around, dude,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: we did.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: We brought it from the beginning of the show when
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: we were talking about some breaking news and net to
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: keeping your daughter under lock and key because she's.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Well you know, arapy. Therapy is cheap.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: So yeah, just watch yourself away.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: Who's bringing it home?
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: You are me?
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: You can do it go ahead, I get to bring
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: it home well.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: First of the foremost, I want to thank the aw
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: Fan Hub for being president, and everyone on our panel, Max,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: Steve net Stutton and our fearless leader Kelson. We would
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: not be here if it weren't for you.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: Brother.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: Uh you know we show up.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: We do these pods every single Tuesday ignition at eight
• 1:05:40
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• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: Join us tomorrow night on Wednesday for the post Dynamite review.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: This is Shane signing out.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: This is Kelson. Good night, everybody, Good night.
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  Speaker 3: Good everyone.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: That's all we got, folks.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: I'm back any kingstaff, no bring us