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- 0:00Welcome to Reformed Thinking, the broadcast where we gather to
- 0:03consider God's truth from a Reformed perspective.
- 0:06And in each episode, we aim to thoughtfully consider various
- 0:09aspects of Christian life and theology, always viewing them
- 0:13through the lens of scripture and sound doctrine.
- 0:15Today we have a special deep dive for you.
- 0:18We've been handed, well, quite a stack of sources that really
- 0:21unpack the practice of prayer, particularly when believers
- 0:25gather together. So our mission today is to pull
- 0:28out the most insightful Nuggets, you know, helping you grasp the
- 0:31huge value of playing with company.
- 0:34We want you to walk away well informed, maybe with a few
- 0:38surprising facts, and definitely ready to engage with this topic
- 0:41in a fresh way. Indeed, this deep dive really
- 0:44zooms in on why prayer is such a core element of Christian
- 0:47existence, OK, and how communal prayer, praying together, sort
- 0:51of elevates this vital practice. It offers significant benefits
- 0:55both to individuals and to communities.
- 0:58We'll be looking at biblical patterns and also some practical
- 1:00guidance for this spiritual pursuit.
- 1:02OK, let's get into this then, because we're talking about
- 1:04something absolutely central to our walk with God, aren't we?
- 1:08We are. So let's get into the specifics
- 1:10of what these sources reveal, starting with private prayer,
- 1:13then maybe that idea of prayer throughout the day, and then
- 1:17landing on this unique gift of corporate prayer.
- 1:20Sounds good. So our sources, they start by
- 1:22really setting the stage, They lay down a clear marker.
- 1:26Prayer is a central element of the Christian life.
- 1:29It's presented not, as you know, an optional extra, but as a
- 1:34necessary practice for our spiritual well-being, our very
- 1:38breath, you might say, as believers.
- 1:40That's a good way to put it. The sources present prayer First
- 1:44off as an act of obedience, obedience to God's direct
- 1:47command. You can think of it like God
- 1:49inviting us into conversation, and This Is Us responding to
- 1:52that invitation. But it goes beyond just
- 1:54following instructions. It's presented as a crucial way
- 1:58we receive God's ongoing grace. Oh, OK, Grace.
- 2:01And this grace, our sources really point out, is absolutely
- 2:04necessary for our spiritual survival.
- 2:06Survival, even. Yes, and for us to truly
- 2:08flourish in our faith, it provides the the very spiritual
- 2:13food a believer needs to grow and thrive.
- 2:16So it's not just about ticking boxes, doing what we're told
- 2:19like some kind of spiritual checklist.
- 2:22It's also about receiving something from God, a vital
- 2:26spiritual input maybe. You've got it.
- 2:29The sources are quite clear here.
- 2:31Without prayer, a genuine relationship with God just can't
- 2:35develop. It'd be like trying to keep up a
- 2:37close friendship, you know, with someone you never talk to,
- 2:39right? Embossing, share your heart.
- 2:41You don't listen to theirs. That connection, it just
- 2:43wouldn't get any deeper. Yeah.
- 2:45And it's the same with God. A real delight in who God is
- 2:49remains distant. Without prayer, we'd only get,
- 2:51as the sources say, glimpses from afar.
- 2:54Glimpses from afar. Instead of true communion, real
- 2:56closeness. So the the end goal, the main
- 2:59purpose isn't just getting things from him, it's about
- 3:02getting God himself. Putting God, explain that a bit.
- 3:06It means drawing near to the Giver, recognizing him as the
- 3:10one source of all grace, all joy, all spiritual nourishment.
- 3:15It's a relationship where the greatest reward is, well, God
- 3:19Himself. Now, when we first think of
- 3:22prayer, often the image that pops into mind is private
- 3:25prayer, you know, sometimes called closet prayer from
- 3:27Jesus's teaching. What do our sources say about
- 3:30its specific significance? Private prayer holds a truly
- 3:34central, really important role. It's presented as the starting
- 3:37point. The Foundation.
- 3:39Sort of, yeah. The spiritual bedrock where
- 3:42believers develop their own individual patterns and
- 3:44practices for secret communion with God.
- 3:47Jesus himself gave us a clear instruction for this, didn't He?
- 3:50He told us to go into your room and shut the door and pray to
- 3:53your Father who is in secret. Matthew 6.6.
- 3:56That's the one. And this isn't just a
- 3:57suggestion. It highlights a direct divine
- 4:00instruction for praying alone. It makes it a cornerstone for
- 4:03our individual spiritual development.
- 4:05It's where we learn to open our hearts to God without, you know,
- 4:08external distractions or anyone else watching.
- 4:10So it's a personal space, a really personal practice where
- 4:13we get to know God one-on-one. Precisely.
- 4:16It functions as a core piece for individual believers.
- 4:20It helps establish a unique rhythm of communion with God
- 4:23that's entirely personal. It's in this private setting
- 4:27that we cultivate that initial spirit of dependence, of trust,
- 4:31learning to lean on God for everything.
- 4:34It's often where our personal spiritual growth really starts
- 4:37to take off, and where we receive God's grace for our
- 4:42spiritual survival and, well, thriving.
- 4:45Without this individual secret communion, a relationship with
- 4:49God might stay kind of superficial, lacking the depth
- 4:52and closeness He wants for us. But the sources make it clear,
- 4:55don't they, that prayer doesn't just stay confined to those
- 4:57private moments. Definitely.
- 4:59Not it's not meant to be something we only do behind
- 5:01closed doors. Not at all.
- 5:03While prayer certainly starts in secret, it's not meant to stay
- 5:05only in the closet. God intends for it to expand, to
- 5:09extend throughout our entire daily life.
- 5:11Well, believers are charged to carry a posture of constant
- 5:14prayer in the soul, to integrate a spirit of dependence and trust
- 5:19into all our daily tasks, our engagements.
- 5:21So. Keeping an awareness of God.
- 5:23Exactly. Maintaining an ongoing awareness
- 5:26of God's presence and inner readiness to turn to Him no
- 5:29matter what we're doing or where we happen to be.
- 5:32It's about the the disposition of our heart.
- 5:35So it's like those maybe quiet whispers of gratitude or quick
- 5:40appeals for help we might offer while driving or standing in
- 5:43line somewhere, or even just a quick thank you before a meal,
- 5:46even alone. You've captured it well.
- 5:49The scriptures tell us again and again to pray without ceasing.
- 5:511st Thessalonians 5.1 snub. Right, and be constant in prayer
- 5:55in Romans 12.12, and pray at all times in Ephesians 6.18.
- 6:00So many references. It's not a command to be, you
- 6:03know, literally in a prayer closet all day long.
- 6:05We're talking out loud every second.
- 6:07Instead, it speaks to that ongoing awareness of God's
- 6:10presence, A readiness to speak with Him in any moment, wherever
- 6:14we are. Being ready to consciously turn
- 6:16to God in the car, waiting in line, walking down the street,
- 6:21buff for a meal, even right in the middle of a difficult
- 6:24conversation. As one quote in our sources puts
- 6:27it, everywhere God is, prayer is.
- 6:30I'd like that. It makes prayer potentially all
- 6:33pervasive in our lives because God is everywhere, sustaining
- 6:37everything, and always worthy of our attention and our words.
- 6:40OK, so we've talked about the personal, private side of prayer
- 6:44and how that spirit of prayer can well soak into our daily
- 6:47lives, but our soul just point to something really significant
- 6:50beyond just individual devotion. They call it the high point of
- 6:54all pervasive prayer outside of private devotion.
- 6:56Yes, this is where our understanding kind of expands
- 6:59into the communal What exactly is this high point?
- 7:02This high point it refers specifically to praying together
- 7:05with other Christians. Okay, corporate prayer.
- 7:07Right often called corporate prayer or playing with company,
- 7:10this particular form of prayer stands out as the pinnacle, the
- 7:13peak among the various ways we express prayer, the.
- 7:16Yeah. It represents A collective
- 7:18expression of dependence and trust in God, right?
- 7:21A unified turning to Him as a body of believers, right?
- 7:25It's seen as the height of spiritual communion in a
- 7:27communal setting, bringing unique blessings you just don't
- 7:30find in private prayer alone. So if it's the pinnacle, is it,
- 7:35would you say even more significant than those quick
- 7:38whispered prayers throughout the day we just talked about?
- 7:40Well. Yes, in terms of its unique
- 7:42communal aspect and the specific value it brings.
- 7:46Our sources really point out that while it takes more effort.
- 7:49Oh, I bet. More planning, more coordination
- 7:53than private prayer. You know, sinking schedules,
- 7:56taking initiative, getting past logistical hurdles.
- 7:58It is worth every ounce of effort.
- 8:01With every. Oz that really highlights its
- 8:03unique significance and the remarkable blessings it yields,
- 8:06both for a believer spiritual life and for the whole
- 8:09community. It's not just a casual thing,
- 8:11It's an intentional gathering for a specific weighty and both
- 8:15significant purpose, one that God delights to honor.
- 8:18It sounds like there's almost a caution here, then, against
- 8:21keeping prayer just to ourselves, maybe pushing back
- 8:24against that modern tendency to isolate our faith practices.
- 8:28There is a very clear encouragement to resist the
- 8:32trend towards privatizing prayer.
- 8:34Privatizing prayer. Yeah, meaning keeping it
- 8:36confined solely to individual practice.
- 8:39While private prayer is absolutely essential.
- 8:42A healthy prayer life, the sources argue, involves both
- 8:45personal prayer, you know, in secret and on the move, and
- 8:49corporate prayer. Both hand.
- 8:50Exactly. It's not just about asking
- 8:51others, hey, can you pray for me?
- 8:53Or having them pray about you right, but actually coming
- 8:56together to pray with them. Actively together.
- 8:58Yes, this collective practice is presented as a vital channel of
- 9:03God's ongoing grace for Christian life and communities.
- 9:06It produces what the sources call inestimable good.
- 9:09Inestimable good meaning. Meaning good, so vast, so rich,
- 9:13it's beyond our ability to fully measure.
- 9:15It OK so let's look at the biblical basis when we think of
- 9:19a model for prayer. Jesus is our ultimate example,
- 9:22right? Our sources show that even he,
- 9:24being God Incarnate, practiced communal prayer.
- 9:27That seems, well, it seems striking.
- 9:29It really is, isn't it? The sources clearly show that
- 9:32Jesus's prayer life was a powerful example.
- 9:35He demonstrated both personal and communal prayer.
- 9:39You might think, well, his divine nature would mean he
- 9:43didn't need company in prayer, right?
- 9:44He could just commune perfectly with the Father on his own.
- 9:47Yeah, that seems logical. Yet his life consistently shows
- 9:51both private devotion and a pattern of communal prayer.
- 9:54His example confirms that this practice isn't just helpful,
- 9:58it's an integral part of a God honoring prayer life.
- 10:01Even for him. Even for the Son of God himself,
- 10:04he said a clear pattern for us. Can you give us some specific
- 10:07examples from the gospels where we see Jesus engaging in this
- 10:10shared? Sure, Jesus frequently included
- 10:13his disciples in his prayer life.
- 10:15For instance, Luft 9.28 notes, he took with him Peter and John
- 10:19and James and went up on the mountain to pray.
- 10:21Right, the Transfiguration prelude.
- 10:22Exactly, it wasn't a solo trip. He deliberately brought a group
- 10:27and even when it says he was praying alone like in Luke 9.18,
- 10:31it adds the disciples were with him.
- 10:34Interesting. So alone might not mean totally
- 10:37isolated. It suggests his personal prayer
- 10:39space often included his close companions, even if maybe they
- 10:42were a little way off or just quietly present.
- 10:45He rarely completely separated from his men.
- 10:49And when he did, the text explicitly says it was to pray.
- 10:52Like Matthew 14.23, Mark 1.35, Luke 5.16.
- 10:57This is just prayer was a regular thing they did together.
- 11:00And then, of course, when his disciples asked him, Lord teach
- 11:02us to pray, he gave them what we call the Lord's Prayer, which is
- 11:05a distinctly communal prayer, isn't.
- 11:07It our father. Exactly.
- 11:09Starting with our Father, marked all the way through by we, us
- 11:12and our. That structure clearly shows his
- 11:14own practice included a shared dimension, setting a pattern for
- 11:17his followers to pray as a community.
- 11:19And it's fascinating how that practice, praying together with
- 11:21his disciples, seems linked to their later boldness.
- 11:25Remember in Acts 4, Peter and John the authorities recognized
- 11:29they had been with Jesus. Yes, Acts 4.13.
- 11:33That connection is explicitly drawn in our sources, and it's a
- 11:36vital 1. It suggests something was
- 11:38transferred. Well, the disciples subsequent
- 11:41boldness in preaching the Gospel, facing opposition, it
- 11:45was clearly linked to their close association with Jesus,
- 11:49and that association undoubtedly included their shared times of
- 11:53prayer. It implies a kind of spiritual
- 11:56impartation, A strengthening that happened in those communal
- 11:59moments. It shows how much we can be
- 12:02shaped and strengthened by those we pray with.
- 12:04Especially by the Lord Himself. Absolutely, as we align our
- 12:07hearts and voices with Him and with each other.
- 12:09So if Jesus modeled it so powerfully, it makes perfect
- 12:12sense that the early church, his direct followers, would pick up
- 12:15on that. It does.
- 12:16What does the book of Acts show us about their commitment to
- 12:19corporate prayer? Was it central for them too?
- 12:21Oh, absolutely Central. The book of Acts provides a
- 12:24rich, almost continuous story of the early church's consistent
- 12:27devotion to communal prayer. It's everyone.
- 12:29It is explicit at nearly every turn.
- 12:32It shows how absolutely core corporate prayer was to their
- 12:36existence, their ministry, their expansion across the Roman
- 12:40world. The early church's example
- 12:42really establishes corporate prayer as essential for
- 12:45receiving God's ongoing grace in Christian life and communities,
- 12:50and it sets a powerful, repeatable pattern for us today.
- 12:53So not just a nice idea, but woven into their fabric.
- 12:56Exactly wasn't an optional extra, it was woven into the
- 12:59very fabric of their new spiritual community.
- 13:02Can you give us some instances from acts that really stand out,
- 13:05that illustrate this collective prayer life?
- 13:07Sure, right after Christ's ascension, even before
- 13:10Pentecost, the very first Christians were Acts 1.1,
- 13:13Freeing says, with 1 accord devoting themselves to prayer.
- 13:16With one accord unified. Yes.
- 13:19Then after the Holy Spirit came at Pentecost, they continued
- 13:22steadfastly in the apostles teaching and fellowship, in the
- 13:24breaking of bread and the prayers.
- 13:26That's Acts 2.42. So the regular discipline.
- 13:29It illustrates A unified and persistent approach, a powerful
- 13:33picture of collective spiritual life and purpose that defined
- 13:37their community right from the start.
- 13:39OK. What about when things got
- 13:41tough? Well, later when they faced
- 13:44persecution and threats from the authorities, Acts 4.24 tells us
- 13:49they lifted their voices together to God.
- 13:51Together. And the results?
- 13:53Immediate and dramatic. The place where they were
- 13:55gathered was shaken, and Acts 4.31 says the Holy Spirit filled
- 13:59them, empowering them to speak God's Word with great boldness.
- 14:03Wow. A direct answer.
- 14:05A clear, tangible sign of God's presence and His approval of
- 14:09their united petition. And what about in times of, say,
- 14:12leadership decisions or big challenges they faced?
- 14:15Did corporate prayer play a role there too?
- 14:17Absolutely. When the church needed to
- 14:19appoint the seven men to serve the Hellenist widows, what did
- 14:21they do? Acts 6.6 says they prayed and
- 14:24laid hands on them. Seeking God's blessing on the
- 14:26ministry. Demonstrating the essential role
- 14:28of corporate prayer in commissioning leaders seeking
- 14:31God's blessing on their service. Then think about Peter in
- 14:34prison. Acts 12.
- 14:35Acts 12.5 says earnest prayer for him was made to God by the
- 14:40church, not just a few individuals, but the church
- 14:42collectively. And when he miraculously
- 14:45escaped, where did he go? He found many were gathered
- 14:49together and we're praying for him.
- 14:51That's Acts 12.12 they. Were still at it.
- 14:54It shows the Church's collective intercession during crisis and
- 14:57God's powerful response to the United pleas, a direct
- 15:00intervention often linked to their collective cry.
- 15:03Any other examples? Oh yes.
- 15:05Before sending out Paul and Barnabas on their very first
- 15:07missionary journey, Acts 13.3 says the church in Antioch acted
- 15:12after fasting and praying. Seeking guidance and blessing,
- 15:15right? And they also appointed elders
- 15:17in every church with prayer and fasting according to Acts 14.23,
- 15:21highlighting prayer's central place in establishing
- 15:23leadership. So even in the middle of
- 15:25distress or really hard circumstances, they kept up this
- 15:28collective habit. Yes, even then we see Paul and
- 15:31Silas. What were they doing in jail?
- 15:33Praying and singing hymns to God.
- 15:35It's Acts 16.25. Showing a spirit of worship and
- 15:38reliance on God even in suffering, likely together
- 15:41comforting each other. And in that emotional goodbye to
- 15:46the Ephesian elders in Acts 20, Paul knelt down and prayed with
- 15:50them. Acts 20.36.
- 15:53He did the same entire in Acts 21.5.
- 15:56Kneeling together. These consistent examples just
- 15:59show corporate prayer wasn't occasional for them.
- 16:02It wasn't just spontaneous. It was central to their common
- 16:05life, their ministry, their spiritual strength.
- 16:08Their consistent practice really underlines its enduring
- 16:11significance for Christian life today.
- 16:14It truly was the heartbeat of the early church.
- 16:16OK it's abundantly clear then, from Jesus's own life and the
- 16:20early church's vibrant practice. Corporate prayer is vital.
- 16:24But for us today, you know, in our different contexts, how do
- 16:26we actually do it Well, our sources offer some practical
- 16:29guidance, right? They don't just leave us
- 16:30hanging. They.
- 16:31Absolutely do. And it's helpful because while
- 16:33there isn't one single rigid pattern for corporate prayer.
- 16:36Right context differ. Exactly.
- 16:38Practices vary by context, by leadership styles and families,
- 16:42churches, communities, their shared history.
- 16:44But the sources present 5 councils specifically aimed at
- 16:47leading small group prayer. 5 councils OK.
- 16:50And these are designed to genuinely enhance the
- 16:52experience, make it more fruitful, suggesting that wise
- 16:56leaders kind of observe existing habits, gently encourage the
- 17:00helpful ones, and compassionately replace the
- 17:02unhelpful ones. Guiding principles, not rigid
- 17:05rules. Precisely.
- 17:06So what's the first council they offer to guide us in this?
- 17:09The first one is straightforward but really crucial.
- 17:13Make it regular. Regularity.
- 17:15OK, this means setting up a planned routine, time and place
- 17:19for corporate prayer, integrating it maybe into a
- 17:21weekly or biweekly rhythm, rather than letting it be
- 17:24sporadic or unplanned. Makes sense?
- 17:26Consistency, our sources point out, is key for building any
- 17:30spiritual discipline, isn't it? And prayer is no exception.
- 17:33True. Without regularity, it's hard
- 17:35for momentum to build or for people to consistently show up
- 17:38and participate. Why is regularity so important,
- 17:41though, especially when our schedules are often so crazy?
- 17:43Why not just pray when the Spirit moves us, so to speak?
- 17:47Well, the sources suggest something interesting here.
- 17:49They suggest making a finite pledge for a specific duration.
- 17:52Finite like not forever. Right.
- 17:55Say, for a few weeks or a few months, rather than an
- 17:58open-ended commitment that goes on indefinitely.
- 18:01Why is that better? This approach helps avoid the
- 18:04discouragement. They can creep in when those
- 18:06indefinite plans kind of fizzle out over time.
- 18:09Yeah, which can lead to a sense of failure.
- 18:12You know, yeah, I've seen that happen.
- 18:13Instead, at the end of that specific period, the group can
- 18:17intentionally choose to renew their commitment or maybe
- 18:21reconsider the arrangement. It allows for intentionality and
- 18:24sustained practice that fits their current season.
- 18:27So it builds the habit without feeling like this huge, maybe
- 18:30overwhelming forever obligation. Exactly builds a habit without
- 18:34it becoming a burden. OK, so consistency gives us the
- 18:37rhythm, but how do we ensure the content and the approach of
- 18:40those prayers are God centered and well effective?
- 18:46The sources must address this too.
- 18:48They do. That leads to the second
- 18:49Council. Start with Scripture.
- 18:50Start with scripture OK. Christian prayer is most
- 18:53authentic, most aligned with God's desires.
- 18:56When it's a response to God's own self revelation, a response
- 18:59you remember the poet George Herbert.
- 19:01He famously called prayer God's breath in man returning to his
- 19:05birth. Beautiful image.
- 19:06It suggests our prayers should be shaped and inspired, but what
- 19:10God has already spoken to us in His Word, not just starting with
- 19:14our own list of disconnected thoughts or wants.
- 19:16I find that idea really compelling, that we're
- 19:18responding to God, not just starting the conversation from
- 19:21scratch. How does beginning with
- 19:23Scripture help make that happen? It's a vital practice.
- 19:27It's really fitting to begin corporate prayer times by
- 19:29anchoring in God's Word, either by reading a passage out loud or
- 19:34maybe referencing a particular scripture that guides the
- 19:36group's focus for that time. OK, this acts as a kind of call
- 19:40to prayer. Our sources use this lovely
- 19:42imagery. Participants inhale the
- 19:44Scriptures and exhale in prayer. Inhale Scripture.
- 19:47Exhale Prayer. Yeah, we take in God's truth,
- 19:50let it saturate our minds and hearts, and then our prayers
- 19:53flow out as a natural, spirit LED response.
- 19:56This practice helps make sure our prayers align with His will,
- 20:00His character. It centers the group on God's
- 20:02truth and gives a solid foundation for their collective
- 20:05petitions and praises. So we pray more in line with His
- 20:08desires, not just our own often limited viewpoints.
- 20:12Precisely. OK, this next council sounds
- 20:15like it tackles a really common challenge in prayer groups.
- 20:18Limit share time. Yes, this one is very practical.
- 20:21I can imagine sharing requests sometimes takes over the whole
- 20:24meeting. It absolutely can.
- 20:26This council means making sure the focus stays firmly on prayer
- 20:30itself, rather than just on sharing the requests, right?
- 20:33It could be surprisingly easy, as our sources note, to let the
- 20:37sharing of requests basically cannibalize the actual praying
- 20:40together. Cannibalize.
- 20:42Strong word, but probably accurate sometimes.
- 20:44So participants should be encouraged to keep introductions
- 20:47to prayer requests brief, concise.
- 20:49Get to the point, right? After reading the scripture
- 20:52passage, the group should move directly into prayer.
- 20:55Requests could be shared efficiently just by praying them
- 20:58aloud. Include just enough information
- 21:00so others understand the gist of the need and can join in
- 21:03meaningfully. This helps stop the sharing part
- 21:07from dominating the actual prayer time.
- 21:09It prioritizes the act of communing with God and keeps the
- 21:12session focused on its main communal purpose.
- 21:15Respects everyone's time too. So, concise introductions.
- 21:19And then what about the prayers themselves?
- 21:21Are we aiming for short prayers too?
- 21:22That brings us to the 4th Council.
- 21:24Encourage brevity and focus. Brevity and focus.
- 21:27OK, long, rambling prayers, even if they're well-intentioned, can
- 21:32inadvertently, well, try the attention and focus of even the
- 21:35most devout prayer warriors, as one source puts it.
- 21:38Yeah, I can imagine they can strain everyone's attention.
- 21:40And they can also set a kind of inaccessible model for others,
- 21:44especially people new to corporate prayer.
- 21:46They can make it feel daunting, like they could never pray like
- 21:48that. So to foster more engagement,
- 21:50wider participation, participants should be urged.
- 21:54Offer short focused prayers, maybe just on one specific point
- 21:58or request at a time. One point per prayer maybe?
- 22:01Yeah, that can work well. Our sources also suggest
- 22:04including specific times for just one sentence, praises or
- 22:08Thanksgivings. Oh, I like that idea.
- 22:10It can encourage more individuals to jump in and
- 22:12participate, makes the whole experience more dynamic, less
- 22:15reliant on just a few people praying lengthy prayers.
- 22:19It creates space for more voices.
- 22:20OK, this final Council, pray without show but with others in
- 22:24mind. This really gets to the heart of
- 22:26why we gather to pray, doesn't it?
- 22:28And the attitude we should have. It certainly does.
- 22:31It's crucial for individuals to remember that corporate prayer
- 22:34is not about impressing other people, right?
- 22:36Our sources actually acknowledge that some personalities
- 22:38especially need this regular reminder.
- 22:41Instead, it's about genuinely gathering with fellow believers
- 22:44in praises, confessions, thanksgivings, and requests, all
- 22:48directed to God. Authenticity before God is key.
- 22:52Paramount but good corporate praying also involves having
- 22:55fellow prayers in view, acknowledging that you're
- 22:58praying with others, not just sort of praying individually
- 23:01among them in a shared room. So it's a collective address.
- 23:05What does having fellow prayers in view mean practically?
- 23:09Like in the actual words we might use.
- 23:11Well, practically it often means prayers are expressed using we,
- 23:14us, and our. Like the Lord's Prayer?
- 23:17Again, exactly reflecting genuine and appropriate openness
- 23:20for the group that's gathered. While you are speaking to God,
- 23:24your prayer is also mindful of those present.
- 23:27You're seeking to uplift and unite the group in their
- 23:29collective address to God. This creates a shared experience
- 23:33of worship and petition. It fosters a sense of community,
- 23:36mutual participation. It helps everyone feel part of
- 23:39that corporate voice before God. Building a sense of shared
- 23:42purpose and spiritual closeness. All right, so we've got the why,
- 23:46it's central, it's the high point, and we've got the how
- 23:49these five councils for doing it well.
- 23:52Now for the what do we gain? Our sources call the results of
- 23:55corporate prayer inestimable. Good.
- 23:58That's such a powerful phrase. What does that really mean?
- 24:01This good? That's beyond measure.
- 24:03That phrase inestimable good. It means the good is just too
- 24:07vast, too significant to fully calculator measure.
- 24:11Our sources outline 9 specific benefits, or prophets as they
- 24:15call them, highlighting how praying with companies serves as
- 24:18this vital channel of God's ongoing grace. 9 specific
- 24:21benefits. Yes, and these benefits reach
- 24:24deeply into individual believers lives and also strengthen the
- 24:28community as a whole, producing good.
- 24:30That's well past finding out all that God is doing when we pray
- 24:34together. Past finding.
- 24:35Out. These are tangible ways God
- 24:36works when these people gather to pray and they're far
- 24:38reaching. OK, let's dive into these nine,
- 24:40the first prophet for added power.
- 24:43That sounds incredibly compelling.
- 24:45Hence it's something extra happening.
- 24:47Indeed, there is an added power, a special kind of impact to
- 24:50prayers, when believers unite in faith and make requests to the
- 24:53Father with their hearts joined together.
- 24:55Where does that idea come from? It's clearly drawn from the
- 24:58principle Jesus taught in Matthew 1819.
- 25:01If 2 of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be
- 25:05done for them by my Father in heaven.
- 25:07Right, the agreement of two or three.
- 25:09Now, the immediate context of the verse right after Matthew
- 25:1218.20 is about church discipline, but verse 19 clearly
- 25:17points to a unique effectiveness in united prayer.
- 25:20So it's not that God hears better if more people shout.
- 25:23No, not suggesting that at all. Rather, it speaks to a kind of
- 25:27spiritual synergy, a shared conviction that maybe amplifies
- 25:31the petition in a way individual prayer, while still vital, might
- 25:35not. This collective agreement shows
- 25:37God's design for His people to come before Him together,
- 25:40honoring His communal people by giving special attention to
- 25:43their unified cries. OK, the next prophet from
- 25:46multiplied joy. That makes a kind of intuitive
- 25:48sense, doesn't it? Sharing something good often
- 25:50increases the enjoyment it does. What does it look like in the
- 25:53context of prayer? Well, our sources are explicit
- 25:56it sharing the joy of prayer double S that joy When we make
- 26:01it a regular practice to pray together with fellow believers,
- 26:04we tap into a channel of joy we might otherwise neglect a.
- 26:08Channel of Joy. Think about it, when you
- 26:10celebrate something wonderful, sharing it with others doesn't
- 26:13lessen your joy, does it? It usually expands it.
- 26:16Right, You want to tell people? Similarly, in prayer, when we
- 26:20express gratitude or see answers, sharing that experience
- 26:23with the community creates this communal wellspring of gladness.
- 26:28This practice not only adds to your own joy, but also adds to
- 26:30the joy of others, fostering this cycle of encouragement and
- 26:34shared spiritual satisfaction. When we work with others for
- 26:37their joy in God, we find our own experience of that joy
- 26:41increases too. So this multiplied joy then
- 26:43points towards something even bigger, something that extends
- 26:46beyond just our personal feelings.
- 26:48Yes, exactly. This multiplied joy in God leads
- 26:51directly to multiply glory to God.
- 26:53Joy leads to glory. How?
- 26:55It's based on that biblical idea that God is most glorified when
- 26:58his people are most satisfied in Him.
- 27:00OK, satisfaction in him glorifies him.
- 27:02Right, and if we understand giving thanks to him as part of
- 27:05honoring him as God, think Romans 1.21 connecting
- 27:09Thanksgiving and honoring God, then Second Corinthians 1.11
- 27:14makes this explicit regarding prayer.
- 27:17What does it say? Paul writes, You also must help
- 27:20us by prayer so that many will give thanks on our behalf for
- 27:23the blessing granted us through the prayers of many.
- 27:26So the answer granted through many prayers leads to many
- 27:30giving thanks. Precisely praying together not
- 27:32only adds impact to the request, but it also means more glory for
- 27:36the giver when he answers because more voices are raised
- 27:39in thankful recognition of His goodness.
- 27:42This next one prophet #4 for fruitful ministry and mission.
- 27:46This clearly links corporate prayer to action in the world.
- 27:49It's not just an inward looking thing.
- 27:50That's right, God intends for believers to pray for each
- 27:53other's ministries for mission efforts.
- 27:55We see that in the epistles. Oh, constantly.
- 27:58The Apostle Paul himself modeled this consistently.
- 28:00He kept asking churches to pray for his gospel work.
- 28:02Can you give examples? Sure.
- 28:04Romans 15.30322. Corinthians 1.11.
- 28:08Ephesians Six Point Eddie 20 Colossians 4.3 of war, 2
- 28:12Thessalonians 3.1. He was clearly more than capable
- 28:16of praying these things himself. Right, of course, and doubtless
- 28:19he did fervently, but he seemed to anticipate there would be
- 28:22greater fruitfulness in the work when others joined him in prayer
- 28:25for it. So he expected their prayers to
- 28:28make a difference. Yes, it shows a divine design
- 28:31for collective intercession and gospel advancement,
- 28:34acknowledging that God works, often in extraordinary ways,
- 28:37through the unified prayers of his people, to bring about His
- 28:40purposes in the world. In a world that often seems so
- 28:43divided, benefit #5 for unity among believers sounds
- 28:47incredibly timely and powerful. It truly is praying together, as
- 28:51described as one of the single most significant actions we can
- 28:54take to cultivate unity in the Church.
- 28:56How does that work? Well, there's a unity that's
- 28:57already ours, isn't it? For those who are in Christ and
- 29:00share spiritual life in him. Acts 1.14 said the first
- 29:04Christians were with 1 accord devoting themselves to prayer.
- 29:07Right Unity enabled the prayer. Exactly.
- 29:09It highlights that inherent connection.
- 29:11And yet, while we already have the unity of the Spirit, we're
- 29:14also commanded to be eager to maintain it.
- 29:17That's Ephesians 4.3. So it's both a reality and a
- 29:20goal. Precisely so.
- 29:22Praying together is both an effect of the unity we already
- 29:25share in Christ, and it's a catalyst for deeper, richer
- 29:28unity. It acts as a means to grow
- 29:30closer to one another as we draw closer to God together.
- 29:34It binds hearts. OK, this next one is
- 29:36particularly striking to me for answers we otherwise wouldn't
- 29:40get. How can that be that some
- 29:43answers might actually depend on communal prayer?
- 29:45Yeah, that one makes you pause, doesn't it?
- 29:46Yeah, but Scripture does seem to imply that some answers to
- 29:49prayer may only come when others are involved.
- 29:51Like where? The class example is James
- 29:535.1216. It suggests that specific
- 29:56prayers, like those offered by the elders of the church for the
- 29:59sick, can bring healing and forgiveness that might not be
- 30:02obtained otherwise. Recite that passage.
- 30:04Sure. Is anyone among you sick?
- 30:07Let him call for the elders of the church and let them pray
- 30:10over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord.
- 30:14And the prayer of faith will save the one who was sick, and
- 30:16the Lord will raise him up. And if he's committed sins, he
- 30:19will be forgiven. The prayer of faith offered by
- 30:21the elders. Right.
- 30:22And the anointing with oil, as our sources explain it, it
- 30:26symbolizes that the person is being set apart for God's
- 30:29special attention and care. It intensifies the communal
- 30:33prayer for healing. This shows God's design for
- 30:36communal intercession in certain situations where His chosen
- 30:39means for certain answers might actually include the collective
- 30:43appeal of church leaders or just this simple unified prayer of
- 30:47fellow believers. It really makes you consider the
- 30:49vital role of others in our petitions before God.
- 30:52It does. I can definitely see how praying
- 30:55with others would sharpen our own prayer life.
- 30:58It's almost like an apprenticeship in spiritual
- 31:00conversation, isn't it? The sources affirm that
- 31:03wholeheartedly. They state that one of the best
- 31:05ways to learn and grow in prayer is simply to pray with others.
- 31:09Especially those who are good at it.
- 31:11Well, specifically with others whose own prayers have been
- 31:14shaped by the Scriptures and who have clearly spent time with
- 31:17God, OK, by observing them, by joining with them.
- 31:20Believers are shaped shaped by their approach to God, by the
- 31:24kinds of things they thank Him for, by how they keep others in
- 31:28mind in that corporate setting. You learn by osmosis, almost.
- 31:31In a way, yeah. Listening to those around you
- 31:34who are, you know, genuinely acquainted with God in prayer
- 31:37helps draw others into deeper communion with him through their
- 31:40praises and petitions. And beyond what we consciously
- 31:44pick up, we're being shaped deep down as we join our hearts and
- 31:47voices with others in prayer, learning by example, and by
- 31:51doing it together. Praying together also seems like
- 31:54it would naturally create unique bonds, a certain kind of
- 31:57closeness among believers. Prophet 8 to know each other.
- 32:01It absolutely does. Praying together is an excellent
- 32:03way to get to know fellow believers on a much deeper level
- 32:06than, say, just surface level conversation after church.
- 32:09Why is that? Because it's in prayer, in the
- 32:12conscious, immediate presence of God, that we're most likely to,
- 32:16as one source puts it, let the veneer fall.
- 32:19A veneer. The mask.
- 32:21Yeah, the protective layer, the carefully constructed persona we
- 32:24often present to the world in prayer.
- 32:27Hopefully our guard comes down a bit.
- 32:30We become more real. We reveal what truly captures
- 32:33our hearts, what we genuinely treasure, and that allows others
- 32:37to truly discern our relationship with God.
- 32:40As the theologian Jack Miller quoted in our Sources wisely put
- 32:44it, you can tell if a man or woman is really on speaking
- 32:48terms with God. Wow, that's insightful.
- 32:50This transparency fosters authentic, heartfelt
- 32:53relationships within the community.
- 32:55It deepens our bonds and builds true spiritual fellowship.
- 32:57OK, saving what our sources suggest is the best for last,
- 33:00the 9th and final prophet to know Jesus more.
- 33:03This sounds like the, well, the ultimate outcome, tying
- 33:06everything together. It certainly is, and it brings
- 33:08us right back to that core purpose of prayer we talked
- 33:10about at the beginning, getting God himself right.
- 33:12See, our individual vision of Christ is inherently limited it,
- 33:15isn't it? How so?
- 33:17We each perceive different aspects of his glory more
- 33:20clearly, maybe because of our personality or experiences, and
- 33:24we might be kind of blind to other aspects.
- 33:27OK, we have blind spots. Exactly.
- 33:29But through praying with others, believers can hear and see
- 33:33facets of Jesus that they have not yet perceived.
- 33:36Hearing and seeing facets. Yeah, because different
- 33:38experiences, different personalities of the group will
- 33:41naturally emphasize various aspects of His glory in their
- 33:44prayers. This collective perspective, as
- 33:47Tim Keller observes in our sources, allows for a fuller,
- 33:50more well-rounded understanding of his person and his work.
- 33:53So the group sees more than the individual.
- 33:55Right. And since the great purpose of
- 33:57prayer is not mainly getting things from God, but
- 33:59experiencing God, knowing God. Getting God himself.
- 34:02This benefit alone can indeed inspire, and really should
- 34:05inspire, fervent participation in communal prayer.
- 34:08It helps us achieve the very goal of prayer itself.
- 34:11So wrapping this up, what does this all mean for us?
- 34:15Our deep dive into these sources has clearly revealed that prayer
- 34:18isn't just one thing, it's the very heart of the Christian
- 34:21life. It flows from that personal,
- 34:24private devotion into a spirit of constant awareness throughout
- 34:28our day, right? And it culminates or reaches a
- 34:31high point in this uniquely powerful and blessed experience
- 34:35of praying with company. It is indeed a vital means of
- 34:39God's ongoing grace for us, from Jesus own perfect example to the
- 34:43early church's consistent practice, and through those five
- 34:47practical councils and the nine specific benefits we've just
- 34:50walked through. The message is pretty clear,
- 34:53isn't it? It seems so.
- 34:54Gathering with others to pray brings this immeasurable good,
- 34:58and it helps us grasp God Himself more fully as we
- 35:01collectively draw near to Him. And thinking about all those
- 35:03benefits, you know, the added impact, the multiplied joy, the
- 35:07deeper unity, that fuller understanding of Jesus, it
- 35:11really makes you wonder, doesn't it?
- 35:12It does if God actually designs for some answers, some blessings
- 35:16to await the joining of others in prayer.
- 35:19What expressions of His grace, what answers, what closeness
- 35:23might we be overlooking or even missing out on by neglecting
- 35:26this practice of praying with company?
- 35:28It's definitely question worth pondering.
- 35:29Well, that's it for this deep dive on Reformed thinking.
- 35:32Until next time, keep seeking God's truth.