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The "Minimalist Millionaire" Strategy for True Wealth in 2026 | Kris Krohn · The Hannah Hammond Show

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The ability to smash it out of the park on an opportunity in
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business takes confidence. That confidence all stems from
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integrity. Can you trust yourself to do
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everything you say you're going to do?
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Most human beings, they can't even start with that.
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Good integrity doesn't mean that you're going to be successful.
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It's just a basic requirement for being successful.
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So start with integrity. I think those are the foundation
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of everything. How much is enough?
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Owned 2 jets. I'm selling both of them right
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now. I know what it feels like to
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live in a 30,000 square of an house.
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What's authentic for me right now is sitting in my Beamer, my
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Escalade for an 11 year old Sequoia, and a four year old
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Tesla, and they make me just as happy.
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What specific incident in your life switched this mindset for?
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You, my 17 year old daughter, had been depressed for four
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years and then she tried to take her life right before my eyes.
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That moment really picked me up, caused me to do some super deep
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reflection because I was now just on one mission.
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And it was. Welcome back to the Hannah
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Hammond show. I'm sitting here today with
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Chris Kron out of Utah, who is a amazingly incredible real estate
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entrepreneur, mentor and mindset code.
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She's an author, a speaker. He's done thousands of dollars
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and over a billion dollars worth of real estate transactions and
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is a leader for men, women and everybody in the real estate
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space, mindset space and just the journey to reaching your
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highest potential, which is so aligned with what I the mission
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that I am on. And so I'm excited to have you
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here today. And I mean, you, you've built an
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incredible brand and so influential to so many people.
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You have millions of followers across your social media
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platforms and YouTube and all of that.
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So I'm excited to hear your story and this kind of new
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journey, this new chapter of the journey that you're on.
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So thanks for being here. Absolutely, Hannah.
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Glad to be here. So I was watching one of your
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podcasts or one of your YouTube videos before we started today,
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and you shared something that says that you are reintroducing
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yourself to the world as the minimalist millionaire.
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And I would love to dive into that and see how I know you went
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kind of from rags to riches. And then you're transitioning
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your life right now and you're starting to share more about
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this minimalist millionaire concept.
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And so I'd love to kind of hear what mission you're on and what
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that means to you. You know, it's been the weirdest
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thing. You know, I, I get online years
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ago, I share my story, I show my cars, I show my house, I show my
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World Travel. I do these things and there's so
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many shallow comments that that just stick out to me.
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Like one time I was, I was doing a thing and I was wearing
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sandals and I was literally being made fun of.
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Like bro, can't afford shoes or I was wearing some headsets and
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they weren't bows or something. And like it like it's strange,
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the comments that will come out. I made a video in my master
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bedroom. I got like a 55 inch TV and
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someone's like, Oh my gosh, that guy can't be really.
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He's got a 55 inch TV only, right?
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And I'm like, we, we live in this world where at least in a
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real estate brand, there's a lot of people that are constantly
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evaluating, are you real? And what's the proof?
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And there's just a lot of shallow energy.
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Like it's just literally you're only as good as the car you
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drive or the house that you live in.
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You know, I mean, I've had a whole set of staff that run my
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house and, and organize it and drive my kids around and, and,
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and, and do meal prep and all of these different things.
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And I've, I've lived all of that lifestyle.
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I've owned 2 Jets. I'm selling both of them right
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now. I know what it feels like to
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live in a 30,000 square of a house.
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And I've had a chance to also have some really powerful
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awakenings that have put me on the other side to realize the
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real answer to the question of how much is enough.
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And that's a question that I think everyone at some point
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should really ask themselves, which is what are you going
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after and what's it really about and what is it defining?
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And how much of it is about ego and significance and how many of
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it is because it's authentic and true for you?
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And I guess ultimately what I'm taking a stand for, Hannah, is
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authenticity. What's authentic for me right
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now is trading in my Beamer, my Escalade, for an 11 year old
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Sequoia and a four year old Tesla.
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And they make me just as happy and they do the job and I just
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don't need them. I've listed my $17 million
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house. It's just more house than I
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could ever conceive of possibly needing.
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Yeah, and I I think it is so important.
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And I was in a mastermind this week and we were talking about
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that too, is like, what? When is enough enough?
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And what is the real intention behind the things that you're
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doing right? And we say, like me, I love
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giving, I love serving, I love teaching, educating, and I also
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love being a student. But sometimes we can lie to
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ourselves or cloud like the real intention behind it.
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And all humans have an ego. That's what's allowed us to
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survive. And we like our ego fed.
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We like the applause, we like the the camaraderie.
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We like to feel needed. We like to feel like we're
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making an an impact and a difference.
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But sometimes we have to really reflect on, is this really
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driving impact and change? Or is it still another way to
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kind of drive our ego and feed that, that that ego that we need
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filled? And so I love that you're saying
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that because really less is more, you know, And at what
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point is enough, enough? And I think it's something that
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allows us to really, I feel fortunate to come from nothing
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and build it up because it allows us to like hit those
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accomplishments and those accolades and those things in
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our life. But then, like you said, once
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you hit a point where you have it all materially right, I think
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we start to hit this thing of maybe it's called like that
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midlife crisis or we start to go inward and say, OK, as what it
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what's what else is there, right?
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And I'm actually hitting that point in my life right now.
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Like I never wanted to get married.
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I never wanted to have kids. And right now I'm at that point
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in my life where I was like, well, am I robbing myself of
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some of the most beautiful experiences in life?
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And do I have it all wrong about what my mission really is and
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what I stand for? So I guess what, what specific
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incident in your life switched this mindset for you?
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And like, what, what mission are you on now as you're starting
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to, you know, downsize your house, let go of some of these
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material things that you worked really hard to get.
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And obviously we always have the haters.
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Whether you have it or don't have it, you're going to have
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the haters when you have this influence.
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So like, what was that real shift for you?
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And I guess what mission are you on now?
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My, my 17 year old daughter had been depressed for four years
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and then she tried to take her life right before my eyes.
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And that moment really fucked me up.
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And it really caused me to do some super deep reflection
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because I was now just on one mission and it was to save her
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life. And fortunately we were able to
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find a, a therapy that worked. It was very progressive, got her
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with a team of shamans. She had a life changing
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experience and that was now 2 1/2 years ago.
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Now she wants to live and, and then since then she's gotten
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married and man, she is happy and she's doing so well.
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But it was just an eye opening moment for me.
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And I, I think for years I've been teaching that all people
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should be focusing on mastering 4 things.
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And I've mastered them long enough that they just don't
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bring me a lot of value anymore. And I'm moving now beyond human
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beings. When you look at faith, finance,
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fitness, family, those four FS really, really seem to
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circumscribe the entire human experience.
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And I always tell people in my men's group, I tell these men,
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if you can take 5 years and master these areas, for example,
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get your body to its fittest level where it's now an easy
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lift and it's not a struggle with food and it's not a
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struggle with exercise. It's just now a something that
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you embody. And then do the same with
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family. Master the game of love and deep
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connection. Stop avoiding what's hard and
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difficult and get in there and learn how to cultivate the
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deepest, most meaningful moments when it comes to your finance.
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Just figure it out and make the money and residualize it so that
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you don't have to waste 40 years of your life playing a money
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game. And then that last area, how are
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you with God? Like, do you know how to channel
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the voice of God and hear Him hurt in your life so that you
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can every day through deep meditation, feel connected?
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I teach these to men. And when you get to a level of
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mastery, that's when you seem to, I think, graduate from all
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of just the chaos of life and you get to move on to what your
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real mission and purpose is. My real mission and purpose is
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not being an influencer. It's not having millions of
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followers. It's not doing my second billion
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dollars worth of real estate. It's not achieving a certain
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amount of net worth. Like I can promise myself that
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on my deathbed, I'm going to look back and I'm going to say
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you stayed too long in a game that no longer served because
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when you have everything you need and then you're wasting
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your time to pursue more. Why legacy?
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Well, I just think that that's actually a different form of
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ego. It's like, no, no, I'm here for
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impact and legacy and I want to change the world and I want to
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be remembered. I'm like, that's just a
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different face of ego. God's got this.
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God does not need you. So what is your next level?
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And this is the question I'm asking now.
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So my next level, you know, there's a lot of very
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interesting things that I'm doing.
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I, I still have my businesses, I'm still doing great work.
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I'm still training up investors, I'm still creating millionaires,
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but it just doesn't have a grasp or a hold or a level of meaning
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for me. Hannah, right now I'm pursuing
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A5 year doctorate degree in ancient Chinese medicine.
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It's called Qigong. And I'm also having fun
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following the childhood and the footsteps of Christ that led him
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through the known world before he started his mission on this
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planet in Jerusalem. Because I'm curious about how he
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was as a Taoist or how he mastered Chinese medicine when
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he visited and lived in India from the ages of 13 to 29.
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Or what he did with the Essenes of a certain sect of mysterious
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Jews that lived outside of Jerusalem up until 13 and going
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through India and then later London and then Africa.
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Like, that's a huge curiosity of mine.
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And I want to understand beyond who Christ is, beyond what a
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church can say, who he is. Now, that's just a personal
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passion. I also have a mission to find
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men and women that are twin flames on this planet and to
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teach them what real love is. This has nothing to do with
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finance, but it's just the next step in my evolution.
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And you're talking about like actual relationships, personal
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relationships, finding your twin flame.
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Yeah. How do you find them?
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And then how do you keep it from being just a karmic soulmate
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relationship where you're going to piss each other off?
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How do you cast off the wrong and the right game?
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How do you find the deeper levels of what true
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unconditional love and advocacy actually look like?
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This oneness game is what I've been called to teach and it's
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started with what might happen to my daughter 2 1/2 years ago
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is how do we find oneness and true communion with the person
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that we love and then the other people on this planet.
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Yeah, yeah. And that story hits so home to
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me because I, you know, wanted to take my own life when I was
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20 years old. And it was a very dark time.
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And now I have a beautiful, beautiful life that I am so
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happy to wake up to every day. And, you know, I embrace the
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challenges that come every day now.
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And it's a totally different energy, totally different
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intention. And now I feel called to share
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that and help others in those dark places because there's so
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many people suffering out there, so many.
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And what we see on social media is this fairy tale land that
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everybody but us is doing amazing and it has everything
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put together. And we all just know that that's
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not reality, but we can get sucked into these things.
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And relationships, especially for driven people like us, are
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so hard. It's been one of my greatest
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challenges, if not my greatest challenge in my life is forming
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and growing really healthy, strong relationships.
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And a lot of that I found was because I wasn't, I didn't have
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a healthy, strong relationship with myself first.
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You know, I was seeking all this external validation from
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everything outside of me, looking for all these answers to
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feel whole, feel worthy, feel fulfilled, feel loved.
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But really deep down, I was robbing myself of all of that.
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And I was trying to find it through external validation and
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external success, but was still miserable once I achieved those
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external material things that I thought would help me.
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And I, And so did you go through, since you're so
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passionate now about relationships and about health
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and healing and all these things, did you go through a lot
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of these struggles in your life where you you struggled in your
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relationships with either your family or yourself or your
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spouse? I I've been in this work for 20
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years and there's a lot of people that will go to their
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grave and never know what the real work is.
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When I say the work, most people, they're glazed over,
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they have no idea what that means.
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The inner world is very different than the outer world
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and our outer world is a reflection of our inner world.
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So I had, I had 50 men this weekend in my men's group that
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came over to my home for a retreat and they're standing in
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my $1,000,000 office where I just closed a really big billion
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dollar potential deal. And they're feeling the
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opulence, they're feeling the abundance, they're feeling the
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energy of what that whole room is about.
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And that's where I get to break it down and say, you guys are
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admiring the outside. You're at, you're admiring, you
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know, my production and my outcome and my results.
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But the truth is everything you see externally is also an
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expression of who I am internally.
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And the question is, am IA lopsided soul soul or am IA
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balanced soul? For the last 20 years, I've been
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deep in the personal development game.
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I've been and spent $2,000,000 on going through mentors and
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projects and doing the tear downs and the rebuilds.
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And I've been looking at every area of my life, trying to
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figure out how to make sure that how I'm living my life
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internally is a beautiful expression of not just what
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people see on the outside. So as I've been in that work,
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yeah, I've been through a lot of relationship issues with my own
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wife, a lot of just growth as a father of what kind of father do
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I want to be? How deeply am I really
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connecting with each of my children?
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Like struggling with my daughter tried to take her life for four
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years as a teenager was really, really difficult.
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Here I am a motivational speaker on stage, changing lives,
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talking people out of suicide and choosing into life.
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And I couldn't do that for my daughter.
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So that drove a lot of deeper inner work.
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I used to struggle with my weight 15 years ago, I went
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through transformation. I haven't struggled with this
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since. So on this planet, I, I, I feel
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actually handling it. All of us are here for a purse,
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a purpose to dive into these things.
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So, you know, if you're having a problem with your personal
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relationships, if it's your health, your finances, your
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relationship with God, until you shore up all four of those, I
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feel like we're going to feel like a less dimensional,
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incomplete human being. And so, yeah, let's make sure
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that we're not getting so over committed to outward success
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where one person is making a lot of money and then secretly
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they're suicidal or they're depressed or they don't have the
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love and the connection that they want.
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That's just a journey of the real purpose of life, which is
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to challenge ourselves to grow and to become everything I think
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God intended us for us to. Yeah, I think it all, it's all
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love, you know, and we lose sight that it all comes back to
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love. Like creation in itself is, in
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my opinion, an expression of of unconditional love.
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And we get so lost in the process.
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What are some of the key lessons you've learned as you've gone
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done 20 years of development work and introspective work on
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yourself and going through this with your daughter and growing
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your relationship with your spouse.
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What I mean for somebody out there that's struggling today to
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maybe they have external success and they're still feeling
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unfulfilled or empty, or maybe they don't have external
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success, but they think it will make them feel fulfilled and.
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Yeah, I think that's the more common scenario that people find
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themselves in, is that for every successful person, you have
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hundreds of failures in their mindset.
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And, and, and this is a really basic lesson, but to answer your
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question, I think it starts with the basic building blocks of the
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character that you're becoming and evaluating what kind of
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human being do I want to be on this planet?
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And where should I start? Because I could develop
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compassion or benevolence, or I could develop wisdom through,
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you know, acquiring knowledge and applying skills.
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I could lean into entrepreneurship or public
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speaking. It's like, where do I start?
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And I always tell people that the, the, the base foundation of
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everything start with integrity, literally defined as doing what
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you say you're going to do, because most human beings will
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never even have a chance to discover what their potential is
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because they just have really shitty integrity.
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They say one thing and they do a different thing.
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And and then I query audiences all the time.
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I'm like, OK, like if you were given 10 tasks, whether it's at
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work or at home or in a personal relationship or to yourself, how
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many of them do you actually do? And the average person does
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about 6 or 7 out of 10 things. That is such shitty integrity.
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I would never, if you got down on your knee and said, Chris
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Christopher Kron, I want to marry you.
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I'm going to, I'm going to do what I say 60% of the time.
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I'm going to love you. 60. I was like, hell no, I'm not
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going to be in a relationship with you.
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And I don't want to be in a work relationship with you.
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In fact, I believe that integrity is one of those areas
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where we can strive for perfection and not as a really
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high mark. But why else wouldn't you try to
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be a person that actually does what they say they're going to
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do? Mom will call you back in 5
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minutes. Did you actually mean the next
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day? And you're a liar because the
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biggest reason why we struggle with integrity is because the
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world is filled with people pleasers, and people pleasers
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are liars. That's all that means.
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They're chameleons sharing a version of themselves with you
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to try to manage your emotional state or your perception of
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them. And so integrity and
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authenticity, I think, are two of the greatest journeys that a
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person can embark on, which is who am I truly?
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And can I depend on myself? Because guess what?
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The ability to meditate and connect with God takes
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confidence. The ability to be a great lover
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takes confidence. The ability to smash you out of
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the park on an opportunity in business takes confidence.
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That confidence all stems from integrity.
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Can you trust yourself to do everything you say you're going
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to do? Most human beings, they can't
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even start with that. By the way, good integrity
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doesn't mean that you're going to be successful.
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It's just a basic requirement for being successful.
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So start with integrity and then #2 I would say the journey of
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authenticity. Take off your pleaser masks.
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Who are you really? Are you willing to really let me
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see you when you're struggling? Are you willing to face yourself
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in the mirror and be vulnerable and honest with yourself instead
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of the lies that we tell ourself?
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And are you willing to be disliked and hated even by other
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people? Because it's more important for
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you to be true to yourself than true to another.
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I think those are two great places to start.
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I think so too. I think those are the foundation
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of everything. And if you can't get those, you
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aren't going to get very far or have a very fulfilled life.
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And yeah, I think that's where, and that's where self-confidence
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stems from and that's where positive energy stems from.
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I mean, if we're lying to ourselves every day and we can't
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even, you know, not put the cookie in our mouth 3 minutes
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after we say we're not going to put the cookie in our mouth,
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then what? What can we actually accomplish
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in this world if we don't even have?
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If we can't even believe in ourselves.
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Right. Well, and you're also you're
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bringing, you're also bringing up positivity.
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And I, if I had to give a thorough note, just real quick
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to give you a more complete answer to your question.
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It's understanding that when you when you study the data Chang or
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Logos, which is the Greek version of that or what Christ's
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message to the world was. It all starts with everything in
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the universe is mental and by the time you speak it, that is a
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form of creation. You're literally taking a
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thought form and you're putting out into the world.
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So are you evaluating your creations that start with mental
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thoughts that become the spoken word and take on an energy and
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most people they don't. I've decoded in my own research
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and a seven-year journey I went on and I wrote a book about it
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called Limitless, that there's ultimately 10,000 ideas that
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make up your mindset. When we say mindset, what do we
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mean? We mean 10,000 ideas that make
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up your paradigm, and 65% of them are rotten.
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I can't, I'm not good enough. I can't do it.
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It's going to be tarred. It's too difficult.
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My genetics don't support me, whatever.
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There's all this bullshit that we think and that we speak.
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And so going on a journey where you start establishing an
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awareness of what you're saying. And if you can't do that, you're
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going to call things in a creation that you don't like
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because everything in your life that you don't like is your
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creation. You somehow called it in or you
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tolerated it. And victimhood wants you to
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point at somebody else or yourself as a martyr and not
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take true responsibility. So I think the third thing is
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become aware of all of your thoughts.
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Become aware of all your words. You're having 70 to 80,000
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thoughts a day. You're speaking a lot of them.
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You're, you're thinking 1,000,000 words.
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If you give yourself permission to think shitty thoughts, you're
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going to produce shitty outcomes.
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And if you give yourself permission to think beautiful
19:45
thoughts, you'll get beautiful outcomes.
19:47
Because really what you're getting in life is not what you
19:49
want, it's what you put energy into.
19:51
And so when something bad happens and you put energy into
19:53
that, you get more of that bad thing.
19:54
So I just understand the basic relationship of creationism that
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in the beginning was the word, and the word said it's dark out
20:02
there, let there be light. It was thought, then it was put
20:05
into creation through speech and then it could be what creation
20:08
is happening. This saying with us, Hannah,
20:11
that everything we think and we speak is a form of creation.
20:14
So if you don't like your results, maybe change your
20:15
thoughts in your speech. I love that you said that.
20:18
I'm actually giving a talk this week on Thursday on energetic
20:21
intelligence and how to transform your business and your
20:23
life by changing your energy. And it all starts with the
20:25
awareness and my coach that I had hired that taught me this
20:29
concept. He says the outcome can only be
20:31
as great as the energetic state in which you initiate the
20:35
action. And so just like you said, if
20:36
you're starting with negative thoughts, negative energy,
20:40
negative intent, you're regardless of how smart or
20:43
strategic you think you are, you're going to get low quality
20:45
outcomes. And so if we can have that
20:47
energy and the ability to not only have the awareness of the
20:50
energy, because so many of us don't even realize that we're
20:52
operating with this negative energy inside.
20:55
We just think it's life as usual, but it's really toxic,
20:58
low vibrational, low frequency energy.
21:01
And then we wonder why we're getting all these negative
21:03
results when everything that's coming out of our mouth or in
21:06
our brain is negative and we don't have the ability and the
21:09
capability that is a trained skill to be able to catch it
21:12
right away. Well, it's a thought before it
21:14
becomes an action or, you know, words or an emotion that
21:19
eventually becomes an action and it's going to continue to
21:21
attract low quality outcomes in business and in life.
21:24
Yeah, I agree that with that completely.
21:27
How have you managed the, you know, I talked to, I'm friends
21:31
with Jamil Domsi and we always get into these deep
21:33
conversations of both business growth and crazy goals and then
21:37
this inner work and groundedness and spirituality, connection,
21:41
calmness and all this stuff. How have you balanced in your
21:45
life? The, the, the, I guess both of
21:51
those, right, the entrepreneur success, like I'm a driver, CEOI
21:55
have all these big goals. And then the calm grounded.
21:59
I want to be present with my wife, present with my kids,
22:01
present with myself, have that time to focus on the things that
22:05
are fulfilling, but not necessarily excellent, right?
22:08
How do you manage that? So I I've got two practice that
22:12
I think that lean that that help resolve that for me.
22:15
The first one is I believe that a brain needs office hours
22:19
because a, a mind is a tool. But if you only operate from
22:23
this tool and you're always thinking, it will keep you from
22:25
being present. In other words, you can't think
22:28
and be present at the same time. So for example, if I'm with my
22:31
wife and I'm thinking I'm actually not with her.
22:34
If I'm with my my baby girl and I'm thinking I'm not with her.
22:38
If I'm sitting next to her and we're doing anime together and
22:41
I'm cuddling her, but my mind is thinking about something else,
22:43
I'm actually not with her. I'm awaiting her and everything
22:47
we do is either towardsing ourselves towards someone or
22:49
it's a weighing them. And it happens energetically at
22:52
an unspoken level first and it happens with my mind.
22:56
And so give your brain office hours, especially if you wake up
22:59
early in the morning and your brain turns on and then you have
23:01
a hard time going to bed at night.
23:02
Your brain is still thinking. You're not a present human
23:04
being. You're focusing on building
23:06
something, you're leveraging a tool in excess and you're now an
23:09
over thinker. So give it office hours and
23:11
here's what it means. It means that outside of those
23:14
office hours, I'm not planning, I'm not doing logistics, I'm not
23:17
solving problems, I'm not thinking about work.
23:19
I'm being present. I can be one or the other, which
23:22
means that when I'm with a loved one, I'm giving them my full
23:25
presence. I'm not thinking in the
23:27
background and working on something.
23:29
I'm literally being with them. So if I was with my baby girl
23:32
and she was sucking on a block, I might grab a block and suck on
23:35
it. Or am I?
23:36
If she's cooing and might COO back, it means that if I'm
23:39
having a conversation with my teenage son that I'm fully
23:43
engaged in that conversation and giving him a full measure of my
23:46
presence. So that's the first thing is
23:47
have office hours for those pesky minds that can just think
23:50
all day long. And then it keeps you out of
23:52
your heart. And I, and I think Tony Robbins
23:54
says it, well, he's got a saying.
23:55
He says in your head, you're dead.
23:57
And I would agree with that because you can't form a
24:00
meaningful deep relationship or a romantic relationship or deep
24:05
rooted connection when you're thinking, you can think or you
24:09
can connect, but you can't have both.
24:10
The second thing that I do is have a very, very, very strong
24:13
meditation practice. Meditation, Hannah means
24:16
something obviously different to everyone because there's
24:18
Transcendental Meditation and Oming and so many different
24:20
things. For me, I'll sit down and I'll
24:25
go into a HAPE ceremony and I've got 30 or 60 minutes a day in
24:29
this, sometimes 90 minutes. And this is where I'm actually
24:32
channeling my higher self, where I'm channeling God, Heavenly
24:35
Father, Heavenly Mother Christ. And I'm bringing these
24:39
individuals into my space. And I've learned how to connect
24:42
deep enough with my intuition where I can sit and ask
24:46
questions and receive answers. And I'll to make sure I don't
24:49
have monkey mind going on. I will ask my questions out loud
24:53
and then I will channel the answers out loud.
24:56
And from the last three years, I've got hundreds of pages of
24:58
notes of just inspired guidance that I've received.
25:01
I think the epitome of the human experience outside of religion
25:04
or spirituality is when we can be sourced to God and God can be
25:10
sourced to us and where we can ask questions, receive answers.
25:14
People when they stay stuck in their head.
25:18
I was at my mastermind trip this weekend and this guy who's in
25:20
another mastermind asked the same damn question he asked
25:23
seven months ago on my online for me.
25:25
He's like, should I, you know, will I increase my income
25:27
opportunity if I'm willing to move?
25:29
And so I said, get up here, bro. And I just closed his eyes.
25:31
I grounded him. I said, get clear on your
25:33
question. And here are the steps.
25:35
When you're fully grounded and you ask and have cleared your
25:38
mind, you can receive the answer.
25:39
Then you have to learn how to trust the answer.
25:41
Then you speak the answer and then you do the answer.
25:43
When you do that, you're now living inspired or in spirit as
25:47
opposed to living in your head. This fucker literally will only
25:51
take you in life as far as it's ever been, so it will rob you so
25:55
much opportunity because it's so damn linear that all it can do
25:58
is create more of what it's given you.
26:00
Your mind. When you operate all day from
26:02
your mind, it has nothing new. And are we not here to meet our
26:05
potential That is outside the comfort zone That is beyond
26:08
where we are. So meditation is where I go
26:11
beyond and turning off my brain. Becoming present is also how I
26:14
get out-of-the-box as well. Yeah, yeah.
26:17
That practice for me to change everything, just sitting in
26:20
silence with myself and being able to connect to source and
26:23
realize that the all the answers are inside.
26:25
And I always struggled to connect to God or Source or the
26:30
universe or whatever your form of the higher power is.
26:34
And I realized when I started the meditation practice and
26:37
started a lot of this healing work, which was a couple years
26:40
ago, I was never sitting silent with myself.
26:43
I never had the opportunity to even connect with God.
26:46
And I was looking for answers outside of me, right?
26:48
I would like pray, dear God, close this deal for me, her dear
26:53
God, like make my, you know, Father love me more or whatever
26:56
I was I was praying for and looking outside of me, but I was
27:00
never actually sitting still with myself.
27:01
And when I started that practice of stillness with myself, that's
27:04
where just like you said, those answers started to flow with
27:07
from within me. And I realized, OK, this
27:10
connection to source isn't outside, it's in silence with
27:13
myself. And and that was what changed
27:17
everything. And another thing I read, and I
27:18
can't remember what book it was. Maybe it was Transcend, but he
27:22
said the easiest way to connect to source is through gratitude,
27:25
through a grateful heart. And when we're complaining and
27:28
when we're in low frequency energy, we can't connect to
27:31
source because we're ungrateful and we're victims.
27:34
And so when we can start to sit into that, what are we grateful
27:37
for in this life? Whatever we have are is things
27:40
to be grateful for on whatever spectrum that is.
27:42
And we can, when we truly embody that gratitude, it helps us sit
27:46
into that source and into that meditation and start to hear
27:49
those internal answers that we are looking for.
27:52
Yep, 100% beautiful. So what what's next for you,
27:57
Chris? I mean you, You've built a real
27:58
estate empire. You're a leader and a coach and
28:01
a mentor. You're a father, you're a
28:02
husband. What does success look like to
28:05
you or what does success mean to you?
28:07
And what is this next chapter of your journey?
28:10
You know, I I don't really have any outward goals.
28:13
All of the inward goals are simply to cause the actions that
28:17
allow me to meet more of my potential.
28:20
Right now I'm really getting ready to close down a lot of
28:23
shop on a lot of opportunities. I'm letting things play out.
28:26
We're putting all of our love, effort and attention into them
28:28
and giving them the resource that they need.
28:29
But I think the next phase of my life is going to be phasing out
28:33
of more of an entrepreneur space or even a coaching space.
28:36
I'm going back to becoming a student.
28:38
I'm just, you know, I've had people pay me a quarter million,
28:41
half, $1,000,000 a year to work with them one-on-one.
28:43
I'm leaving that arena and in a number of places, I'm just going
28:48
back to that student energy of just being the learner.
28:50
It's actually one of the places that I enjoy the most.
28:53
It's so true. The more I learn, the less I
28:55
know. And so I'm just going, I've got
28:57
a lot of learning that I want to do.
28:59
I think maybe in five or ten years I'll return back as a, as
29:02
a teacher again because right now I'm just going to go into
29:05
the void and I'm just going to see what it has for me.
29:07
I've got one major hoorah of a company that we just did an $11
29:10
million funding on. It's a steel company.
29:12
It's basically taking out the lumber industry.
29:14
It's these really cool disruptive machinery that will
29:17
print a house in a day and then they erect it in two days.
29:21
And so I coming from the real estate space, you know, framing
29:24
a house takes out a lot of trees, cost a lot of money, has
29:28
a lot of waste, and it takes a lot of time.
29:30
And so I found a technology that is replacing it at a discount.
29:34
And so it's literally doing it better than lumber, faster than
29:37
lumber, it's cheaper. And so I've got a company that,
29:40
you know, honestly, I think it has the potential for, you know,
29:45
you know, 10 figure valuation. And my business partner did a
29:48
two year build on his company and built it to 32,000,000 in
29:50
two years. We're just going to go 40X that.
29:52
So we're going really big. I've got a 40,000 square foot
29:55
office that my podcast studios in that is being converted to a
29:58
steel manufacturing plant. It's happening here in Utah and
30:02
right now we've got we're building a huge affiliate army
30:04
where we're giving people quarter million, half,
30:06
$1,000,000 million dollar your income jobs for basically going
30:10
out there being affiliates and finding projects to just
30:12
convert, you know, lumber to steel.
30:14
So it's a great technology there.
30:16
For me, the huge passion in it is over the next five years I
30:19
can save a million trees, you know, mature Douglas firs,
30:23
Pines, 35 year old trees that are busy giving oxygen as a
30:26
planet and we're just going to let them do that.
30:29
Meanwhile, we're using recycled steel.
30:31
So trying to create more of a regenerative approach to how
30:34
we're building America is what I'm taking a stand for and, and
30:39
the company I, you know, I can already see is going to be a
30:41
really wild success. So that's kind of one of my
30:43
bigger hurrahs. I'll stay in the real estate
30:45
game. It's very automated.
30:46
My investors are enjoying, you know, 60% annualized returns
30:50
over the last decade. So we're just going to keep
30:51
smashing it there. But I'm just fortunate to have a
30:54
team handle that can carry that legacy forward, help people
30:56
continue making great money. And then meantime, you know, my,
31:00
I'm only four years away from being an empty nester.
31:03
And so for me, I'm just already now moving into that space of
31:07
being the student, which is my my favorite place to operate in.
31:09
Awesome. Well, thank you so much for
31:12
coming on the show and we'll wrap up with one piece of advice
31:16
that you would give to the audience listening that is on
31:19
the mission to reach their highest potential.
31:22
Yeah, I would tell you in the four quadrants, I call them the
31:25
core 4, that take five years of your life and choose mastery in
31:29
all four areas. In the game of finance, what you
31:33
do in 40 years, you can do in 10 years or even 5 years.
31:37
All you just need is a more aggressive game plan and I would
31:40
recommend choosing into that. Today.
31:41
We've got AI, there's mentors out there, there's people like
31:44
Hannah, there's people out there that can help you achieve your
31:46
goals a lot faster. And it's all going to come down
31:49
to very similar skill sets, which is learning how to save
31:54
money, not to get ahead, but to invest.
31:56
And so you become a successful investor.
31:58
You can invest your time, you can invest money, and you can
32:01
acquire skills. Those are all forms of
32:02
investment. So the first thing is take the
32:04
next five years and just do the money game well enough that you
32:07
can be done if you so choose #2 your body is a temple.
32:12
Rock that temple out and learn how to take care of it.
32:15
Over the next five years. Master your body so that you can
32:18
re. You can reclaim the bandwidth of
32:21
the lacking confidence and, and tearing yourself down and
32:24
looking in the mirror and telling yourself something
32:26
meaner maybe than you need to. You've got this one body.
32:28
God gave it to you. Take care of it and it'll take
32:29
care of you #3 your family. Give them the love and
32:33
attention. Learning how to sink deep into
32:35
deep connection. When was the last time you took
32:37
a loved one and, and stared in their eyes for 60 seconds and
32:41
then shared the greatness that you saw with them?
32:44
We're all capable of deep connection.
32:46
Go there, advocate for them and and don't live with regrets on
32:49
the love that you can give that you're not offering.
32:52
And then the last thing is, if you're going to have a
32:55
relationship with God, you can do a very zombie like version of
32:59
it. While I went to church, I did
33:01
the spiritual practice. I'm going through motions.
33:02
I'm checking the boxes. Or you can genuinely really
33:06
connect with the creator of everything and create a
33:08
relationship where you can define the most sacred
33:11
information that you need for every area of your life that
33:13
we've just been talking about. Take the next five years, rock
33:15
them out because what do you do when you've mastered them?
33:18
Well, then you don't need to be plugged into the simulation
33:20
anymore. You can leave the matrix.
33:22
You can figure out why you're actually on this planet and go
33:25
live that life. That would be my advice.
33:28
And also, I think last thing is if you guys don't follow me on
33:31
social media and you'd like to know what some of my tools and
33:33
resources are, I give my books away for free, my events away
33:35
for free. You know, a lot of resources
33:37
that can help you self actualize and become more of the person
33:40
that you want and that you. All you have to do is go to
33:42
freewealthgift.com and feel free to participate in anything that
33:47
you feel will help you level up your life.
33:49
I'm offering free game plans with my team to show you how to
33:51
build wealth in a condensed period of time.
33:53
Access to events or some of the books that I've written.
33:56
Free wealth gift.com. If I have something that can
33:58
benefit you, you can have it. Awesome.
34:01
Thank you so much, Chris.