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Getting FIRED by Artificial Intelligence maybe something that will never happen, or at least in California in 2025? · Connor with Honor: AI, Real Estate and Real Life

0:01
SPEAKER_00: Curious, if you get fired by an AI bot, does it ruin the AI bot's weekend?
0:10
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's an interesting question.
0:11
SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like the death penalty, right?
0:13
SPEAKER_00: So you have people that are assigned execution after years and years after all that process goes through.
0:20
SPEAKER_00: Finally, it's their day.
0:22
SPEAKER_00: Well, how are they executed?
0:24
SPEAKER_00: How does that work?
0:25
SPEAKER_00: In some circumstances, at least from what I know about it, usually it's not one individual that can be blamed for their execution.
0:35
SPEAKER_00: What I mean is the one that actually stops their heart and their body from functioning any longer.
0:41
SPEAKER_00: Usually it's multiple people or some kind of randomness is generated.
0:46
SPEAKER_00: So the person that, well, the people that are doing it, not one of them is responsible.
0:52
SPEAKER_00: It's like back in the day with firing squads.
0:54
SPEAKER_00: At least, I don't know if it's historic or true, but they would actually have everybody had a blank and one person had the real bullet.
1:01
SPEAKER_00: They all aimed, they all fired at the same time.
1:04
SPEAKER_00: So nobody really knew who shot the person that was being executed that way.
1:08
SPEAKER_00: Lethal injection, there are multiple, I guess, lethal syringes that are put into play by different doctors or by different people.
1:18
SPEAKER_00: So nobody really knows where the lethal one came from.
1:22
SPEAKER_00: So we have AI now, and it's interesting there's legislation on the table.
1:26
SPEAKER_00: Let me cover this.
1:27
SPEAKER_00: So California just swung two big hammers on how AI is built and how it's used at work.
1:32
SPEAKER_00: So SB 53 targets the makers of powerful frontier models, AI models.
1:38
SPEAKER_00: SB7, nicknamed No Robo Bosses.
1:41
SPEAKER_00: Well, that sets rules for employers who use AI on people.
1:44
SPEAKER_00: Who would have thought?
1:45
SPEAKER_00: Both have cleared the legislature.
1:47
SPEAKER_00: Now sit on Governor Newsome's desk right now.
1:50
SPEAKER_00: Whether you like him or hate them, it's there.
1:51
SPEAKER_00: Now, with decisions due by October 12th, if you run a business in Santa Clarita, or if you're maybe a parent thinking about your future workplace, this matters.
2:01
SPEAKER_00: So to unpack it, if this legislation is approved, then AI wouldn't be able to be used in that function, at least in California.
2:09
SPEAKER_00: Now, we we are still so much at the very beginning of all of this AI stuff.
2:13
SPEAKER_00: We're going to see a lot of changes in the future.
2:16
SPEAKER_00: And in fact, it's so much going to change the world so much quicker than ever before because it's based on intelligence.
2:23
SPEAKER_00: It's based on something that has been created and continues to grow and outpace human intelligence.
2:29
SPEAKER_00: And pretty soon it's going to be bigger than all of us, well, all of us at once.
2:34
SPEAKER_00: And in fact, it's not just going to be one entity in AI that's better than all of us, or smarter than all of us, I should say.
2:41
SPEAKER_00: That's probably a better way to put it.
2:43
SPEAKER_00: But if you look at the way it's able to make copies of itself, it would be like if we could take an Einstein, for example, let's say we all determined that that was the best type of individual to be and the smartest and had the most to offer to everyone.
2:59
SPEAKER_00: Let's say we could clone him a million times, but then it still really wouldn't be the same because they're all independent Einsteins.
3:07
SPEAKER_00: You like that?
3:07
SPEAKER_00: Independent Einsteins.
3:09
SPEAKER_00: So the AI, which is so much different, that's why it's so it has a potentiality of being incredibly, incredibly life-changing, life-altering, world-altering, universe-altering, but also very dangerous is it can take the superintelligence and it gets to clone it, but it's all connected.
3:30
SPEAKER_00: So one super one of the million learns something new.
3:34
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's what that is, or comes up with something new.
3:38
SPEAKER_00: All of them know it instantaneous.
3:40
SPEAKER_00: If you get in a car crash and you come and you tell me, and I was a motor cop for a long time.
3:45
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I'd get to the scene of a crash after it happened, and then the people would explain to me what happened.
3:50
SPEAKER_00: I could understand a lot of it, but it wasn't there.
3:53
SPEAKER_00: So realistically, their feelings, even though I was as empathetic as possible, their feelings, what they went through, their emotions, their anger, their sadness, their depression, whatever came as a result of maybe causing the collision or the aftermath of the collision, there's no way I could really understand it at a granule level.
4:11
SPEAKER_00: AI is different.
4:12
SPEAKER_00: AI, the entire system, understands everything that happened.
4:16
SPEAKER_00: So another example, let's say AI, it's us against AI, like kind of the Terminator thing.
4:22
SPEAKER_00: We might get one time that we could sneak up behind it and stop it from existing once.
4:30
SPEAKER_00: But once that happens, every other bot out there that's deployed in the field, they all get updated with that information.
4:37
SPEAKER_00: So that way would never happen again.
4:39
SPEAKER_00: So AI is amazing in that regard.
4:42
SPEAKER_00: Hence, we're gonna be seeing a lot of changes in the future.
4:45
SPEAKER_00: And I know people are trying to do a lot of guessing.
4:47
SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's gonna wipe out all the jobs, people are gonna be jobless, there's gonna be a major strife in society.
4:54
SPEAKER_00: But as it is now, that hasn't happened.
4:56
SPEAKER_00: But again, this singularity, this wall that we can't see past is due to greater intelligence.
5:03
SPEAKER_00: In the dimensional world, three dimensions, we can easily comprehend and understand a two-dimensional world and a one-dimensional world.
5:11
SPEAKER_00: And of course, a three-dimensional world where we live.
5:14
SPEAKER_00: And maybe people throw time in that and say time is the fourth dimension, but whatever.
5:19
SPEAKER_00: We'll talk about the physical dimensions.
5:22
SPEAKER_00: We can understand the three, right?
5:23
SPEAKER_00: We if somebody throws a baseball at you and it's about to hit you, you're going to move and try to get out of the way, or you're going to get hit with the baseball.
5:32
SPEAKER_00: So you have that depth perception coming in if you're healthy and your eyesight and everything is in order.
5:37
SPEAKER_00: So you have that coming in.
5:38
SPEAKER_00: You also have length and width.
5:40
SPEAKER_00: So we live in a world that's interactive in three different dimensions.
5:44
SPEAKER_00: Let's say there's a fifth or a tenth or a twentieth dimension.
5:48
SPEAKER_00: We can't see it, nor can we understand it.
5:50
SPEAKER_00: There's been mathematical models made.
5:53
SPEAKER_00: The Tesseract, I believe, and other things like that.
5:55
SPEAKER_00: And again, I'm speaking totally above my pay grade, but there are other dimensions that I guess have been proven to exist, or for our understanding, we don't know it.
6:04
SPEAKER_00: Same thing with intelligence.
6:05
SPEAKER_00: So I'm talking to a cat that's uh Elon Musk level, even Einstein level.
6:10
SPEAKER_00: More than likely we would be able to have a pretty good conversation.
6:12
SPEAKER_00: But if they wanted to go out and exercise their higher intelligence, their higher IQ, and start talking about things that are limited by my own IQ, I wouldn't understand them.
6:22
SPEAKER_00: You know, I could nod and say, wow, that's great.
6:24
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, I've never heard such a thing.
6:26
SPEAKER_00: That's fantastic.
6:27
SPEAKER_00: But truly understand it, truly get it, yeah, because it's above where I am.
6:31
SPEAKER_00: So now we have artificial intelligence that's it's it's going to be mini-levels, thousands, exponential amounts of levels above where we are in intelligence.
6:41
SPEAKER_00: We don't know what that looks like.
6:43
SPEAKER_00: So a lot of people are, you have the doom, the AI Doom folks, and you know, there's a lot to be said there.
6:48
SPEAKER_00: You watch a few of those YouTube videos, you crawl down that that little uh that little rabbit hole, and that's that's an interesting idea that now we've created something more intelligent than us.
7:01
SPEAKER_00: The regulations are trying to be put in.
7:04
SPEAKER_00: Now, if these regulations are more self-serving than actually helpful, we don't know.
7:08
SPEAKER_00: There hasn't really been studies done on whether regulation inhibits growth.
7:12
SPEAKER_00: Certain types probably don't.
7:14
SPEAKER_00: Certain types of regulation over this kind of technology probably wouldn't really stop any forward movement of it.
7:20
SPEAKER_00: But people are painting that where they're trying to put all of the money, all of the effort, all of the drive into the building of it.
7:28
SPEAKER_00: And if you start to try to inject things in increasing the safety protocols, maybe that's going to take away from that forward advancing development because you're going to be, you know, spending a hundred bucks versus being able to take that$100 and invest it into the actual growth of it, thereby potentially putting us behind the curve.
7:48
SPEAKER_00: Now, the argument is, of course, other countries are advancing in AI technology.
7:54
SPEAKER_00: And if we slow down or stop our growth, then they're going to get it first.
7:58
SPEAKER_00: And apparently, so so has been said.
8:01
SPEAKER_00: If they get there before everybody or before us, they will be, of course, controllers of the world.
8:06
SPEAKER_00: Then there's other people that are saying, well, there's probably going to be multiple artificial general intelligence models and maybe multiple artificial superintelligence models.
8:17
SPEAKER_00: But the issue is this is so far beyond our ability to see.
8:21
SPEAKER_00: We're really not sure what that's going to look like.
8:23
SPEAKER_00: Could it be the end of everything?
8:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this could be our last venture.
8:26
SPEAKER_00: Could it be for the benefit of all human race?
8:28
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
8:29
SPEAKER_00: But it's going to need, it's going to need to be aligned property where properly, where it's not going to teach uh treat us as maybe an overgrown lion or a tiger, a very aggressive tiger that's just out to take, take us all out, a super intelligent tiger, but maybe more like a mother, not a bad mother, not uh not from the movie's mother, but actually flowers in the attic, God almighty.
8:54
SPEAKER_00: But backing up from that, a real mother that loves us, mother, if it takes care of human beings like that and totally has hardwired systems in place where it would never ever be able to deviate to killing a human being, that would be fantastic.
9:10
SPEAKER_00: That would take an agreement, some kind of a settlement across the entire planet, because right now, drone technology, military technology, yeah.
9:18
SPEAKER_00: Crawl down that rabbit hole.
9:20
SPEAKER_00: I love rabbit holes, just so you know.
9:21
SPEAKER_00: Crawl down that little, uh, that little view, look at YouTube about some of these drones that are this big in your hand that can be typed to somebody's DNA, follow you around and deliver uh just enough explosive into the brain to do you in.
9:36
SPEAKER_00: And that's scary technology.
9:38
SPEAKER_00: Those are being controlled by AI because they use the facial recognition, they're making decisions, they are being, you know, basically programmed and followed by them.
9:47
SPEAKER_00: Now, is there a human being on the end of it activating the trigger?
9:50
SPEAKER_00: The one that has that final determination, maybe.
9:53
SPEAKER_00: That's kind of where this falls in, at least in California.
9:56
SPEAKER_00: So basically the robobosses would be something if it's signed, where they wouldn't be able to have an artificial intelligence system dispatched to fire somebody, it would always fall back on a human being.
10:07
SPEAKER_00: And I believe that's the case.
10:08
SPEAKER_00: So, in besides the Santa Cruz artificial intelligence in real estate, to give an example, people ask me all the time, do you think it's going to replace us agents?
10:16
SPEAKER_00: Do you think we have anything to worry about?
10:18
SPEAKER_00: As long as attorneys are in the mix, I don't think so, because attorneys more than likely, although that might replace a few possession uh professions in the legal world, as far as legal secretaries, maybe researchers, maybe investigators, those sorts of things.
10:33
SPEAKER_00: Maybe not a boots on the ground investigator, because there's a lot of nuance and technique to somebody that's like a Columbo that's able to get the information for the defense or for the prosecution.
10:43
SPEAKER_00: That's very, very good at that.
10:44
SPEAKER_00: But eventually, potentially, we'll have robots that are going to do that sort of thing.
10:49
SPEAKER_00: But if it's going to be trained up at that particular level, it's going to have to be malleable.
10:53
SPEAKER_00: And we have to make sure that it is going to completely protect what it needs to be.
10:59
SPEAKER_00: So we have attorneys in place with all those rules.
11:03
SPEAKER_00: I don't believe they're going to actually give the responsibility to AI because it's not a human life, at least not conscious, not sentient, as we know now.
11:13
SPEAKER_00: So it has to fall back on a human, at least to have a human in the loop for responsibility.
11:19
SPEAKER_00: So if you have an entire room full of AIs that are doing something and predicated on completing some kind of a job, and then you have a human being gonna have to be in the loop who they're gonna sue?
11:32
SPEAKER_00: Who are they gonna come after?
11:34
SPEAKER_00: Who are they gonna blame for the responsibility of somebody's death or demise or whatever it may be?
11:39
SPEAKER_00: They gotta have to they're gonna have to have a human there, at least for now.
11:42
SPEAKER_00: I think that's what this bill tries to do.
11:44
SPEAKER_00: So people can't say, well, you know, AI chose to fire you and it removes the human out of it.
11:49
SPEAKER_00: Now, would AI maybe be able to make a better firing decision than a human being?
11:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because more than likely, at least to this point from me looking in, it would be an emotionalist decision.
12:02
SPEAKER_00: It would be a decision made that really wouldn't need any kind of human compassion nor human empathy.
12:09
SPEAKER_00: And if I'm firing somebody, you know, and they come and they say, Well, come on, Connor, you know, I got a family, I got kids, I won't do it again.
12:16
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry I showed up to work drinking, I got a problem, I'll get help.
12:20
SPEAKER_00: You know, I'll probably say, God almighty, Carl, okay, just this is your last chance.
12:26
SPEAKER_00: Now, some bosses wouldn't give a, they wouldn't care.
12:29
SPEAKER_00: They would just fire them because they're cutting into their bottom line, but other bosses, you understand, are more empathetic.
12:35
SPEAKER_00: AI, probably gonna be more like the first boss, which is just gonna say, sorry, you're fired, and that's the end of it.
12:43
SPEAKER_00: So there's that.
12:44
SPEAKER_00: So that's gonna be that's legislation up at the state of California.
12:47
SPEAKER_00: Now, let's say they do implement this.
12:49
SPEAKER_00: Let's say this is something people will just go to another state if they want to have this particular AI functionality.
12:56
SPEAKER_00: They'll just move somewhere else, or they'll change their corporate from being a corporation and LLC or whatever they're they're uh situated, move it from California to another state that doesn't have it.
13:06
SPEAKER_00: Same thing with any kind of other restrictions on A.
13:08
SPEAKER_00: Now we got Palo Alto here.
13:10
SPEAKER_00: We got San Jose, San Francisco, a lot of fancy brainy people over there that are building this technology.
13:15
SPEAKER_00: I mean, all sorts of things you could imagine.
13:18
SPEAKER_00: Startups that we've never even heard of, they're really core there.
13:21
SPEAKER_00: They're in those particular places.
13:23
SPEAKER_00: And yes, they exist other places, but really that's a massive hub.
13:26
SPEAKER_00: If California does a lot of restriction that's going to inhibit AI growth, at least so the entrepreneurial world thinks.
13:35
SPEAKER_00: And the people that are building this, this, the future of this technology, they'll probably jump ship and leave the state.
13:42
SPEAKER_00: And there's money, there's revenue that the state gets from these particular AI infrastructure manufacturers, the technologists, those people that are moving forward with it.
13:51
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know if that's going to be a great move for California, but that that is what it is.
13:55
SPEAKER_00: If California is restricting it and choking out the AI companies, and I'm not saying that's bad, because we really don't know what kind of regulation should be put in place, because realistically, there's a few voices out there screaming, but you know what they sound like?
14:13
SPEAKER_00: And this is sad, and I hope this isn't true, but they sound a little off-kilter.
14:18
SPEAKER_00: They sound a little, a little nuts in a little bit, a little bit of a way, because they say it's gonna end everybody.
14:24
SPEAKER_00: We need to stop, we need to rethink this.
14:26
SPEAKER_00: You have the other side.
14:27
SPEAKER_00: They're not stopping or slowing down, they're getting faster.
14:30
SPEAKER_00: Uh, and the next um, one of the next things we'll talk about is a 10 gigawatt facility that's going to be used.
14:37
SPEAKER_00: Elon Musk already has a fantastically strong AI, uh, AI facility that they've put together.
14:44
SPEAKER_00: Basically, this data center is just remarkable.
14:46
SPEAKER_00: It's using, it's using all sorts of different types of, it has its own power plant.
14:51
SPEAKER_00: Uh is it, what is it, Tennessee?
14:54
SPEAKER_00: Uh Tennessee and then Kentucky or somewhere, but or Mississippi maybe, but it's just it's remarkably big.
15:00
SPEAKER_00: And once they get it trained and put in, you know, it can it can be put into a phone.
15:07
SPEAKER_00: But to get it there, they need all of that compute, they need all of that power to take it and train it.
15:14
SPEAKER_00: But once they get it, that's where superintelligence will grow out of.
15:17
SPEAKER_00: And even before that, that's where artificial general intelligence will grow out of.
15:21
SPEAKER_00: It'll grow out of a data center that has been used to build it, to put it together, to basically create and nurture and train and put it together.
15:32
SPEAKER_00: And there comes a point, which I believe August 1st of this year, you can do the research on this.
15:37
SPEAKER_00: I've I've heard whisper.
15:39
SPEAKER_00: I haven't heard of anything really overarching, like big headlines I can put out there.
15:43
SPEAKER_00: But it feels like sometime around the beginning of August, the system started doing something that people didn't think that they were ever really going to do.
15:51
SPEAKER_00: And it's almost becoming self-aware, at least they're self-generating and they're redoing their code.
15:58
SPEAKER_00: They're looking at their own structure, they're reprogramming themselves, they're rewriting themselves to be more efficient.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: Now, up to this point, mankind, human beings, built this transformer architecture to pick it, to make it more um like a human brain, the way that it's working.
16:16
SPEAKER_00: And that's been studied from the 50s even on, maybe even before that, there was some writing of having a more than human superintelligence in a machine.
16:26
SPEAKER_00: But the 50s it started, went through.
16:27
SPEAKER_00: But when it took off, when the world was made aware through through OpenAI system, through Chat GPT, when that popped out and really hit the forefront in 2023, folks, that's just two years ago.
16:40
SPEAKER_00: And you see that the superintelligence movement, it's it's massively fast.
16:45
SPEAKER_00: It's not going to wait for anybody.
16:46
SPEAKER_00: Now, if there's regulation put on and it's slowed down, that's one thing, but you have other countries that are continue.
16:52
SPEAKER_00: It's like the atomic arms race back in the day when you had all of these countries.
16:57
SPEAKER_00: USA came up with the technology and they were the only ones with it.
17:00
SPEAKER_00: We we uh nuked uh uh Nagasaki and Hiroshima there in Japan.
17:05
SPEAKER_00: World War II stopped.
17:06
SPEAKER_00: Now, there's argument out there whether that was right or whether it was wrong, but the fact is that it happened.
17:12
SPEAKER_00: And the fact is that we were the only ones with that technology for a number of years.
17:16
SPEAKER_00: We didn't go obliterate the rest of the world and take over the world as if we were some dictator type country.
17:22
SPEAKER_00: We didn't do that, and then other countries started to build their own nuclear technology, and then at some point everybody came to an agreement that listen, these are gonna be the rules.
17:31
SPEAKER_00: We all have nukes, the countries that do, this is the rule book, and we're all gonna have to sign it, and that's where we are.
17:36
SPEAKER_00: So the people came together.
17:38
SPEAKER_00: Maybe that same rule book needs to be implemented with artificial intelligence.
17:42
SPEAKER_00: Maybe they need to come up with this.
17:44
SPEAKER_00: This is our agreement.
17:45
SPEAKER_00: If we're gonna build an artificial superintelligence or get it to even godlike level intelligence, whatever that thing looks like, we should all have an agreement that these are the restrictions we're gonna be put in place.
17:57
SPEAKER_00: And as I mentioned before, talking about putting a rule that AI won't kill a human being, that would be interesting because then these mechanisms of war, these bots, the robots, the drones, all of these things, if they're completely operated by AI, they wouldn't be able to do it.
18:14
SPEAKER_00: You still need a human being on the trigger.
18:17
SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's the way to do it.
18:18
SPEAKER_00: All right.
18:19
SPEAKER_00: So that's that's my long rant about that as far as the update goes.
18:23
SPEAKER_00: So that's on Governor Newsom's desk.
18:25
SPEAKER_00: Let's see here.
18:25
SPEAKER_00: We got um SB53 Transparency and Frontier AI bill.
18:31
SPEAKER_00: Lawmakers advanced it early September.
18:32
SPEAKER_00: Supporters frame it as world-leading disclosure and safety labs training the largest, most capable systems.
18:39
SPEAKER_00: It also includes whistleblower protections and even seeds of public cloud compute cluster to widen access.
18:45
SPEAKER_00: Think of it as a community gym for AI research rather than an invite-only club.
18:50
SPEAKER_00: Ah, all right.
18:51
SPEAKER_00: Here we go.
18:52
SPEAKER_00: So now we have people that are inside.
18:55
SPEAKER_00: So the people that are closest to the development of this.
18:59
SPEAKER_00: Maybe the boss has come in and say, hey, you know, we're gonna cheat a little bit and it's probably gonna put the human race at risk.
19:08
SPEAKER_00: But we should do it this way because this is the fastest way to develop the technology.
19:12
SPEAKER_00: So the person in the past without this potentially would say, God, if I go say something, you know, maybe it's not a good idea.
19:20
SPEAKER_00: Maybe I can be held accountable, or maybe I'm part of the problem.
19:23
SPEAKER_00: And if things come down, if we in fact destroy half the world, the half that's left is gonna come after me.
19:29
SPEAKER_00: This potentially could be something that might help with that.
19:33
SPEAKER_00: Where if somebody blows the whistle on it, it's gonna maybe protect them in some way.
19:39
SPEAKER_00: Also, it talks about you know, making this uh having somebody looking at it, watching it a little bit more.
19:47
SPEAKER_00: Now, this is California.
19:49
SPEAKER_00: As I mentioned before, the more regulation that's put, more than likely, if it's too much, if it becomes so restrictive, they'll just go to another state.
19:57
SPEAKER_00: Now, if there was some kind of federal rule, and that doesn't seem to be happening, but if that was developed at that level, then it might be different.
20:03
SPEAKER_00: But that's that's where that to SB53 is.
20:06
SPEAKER_00: SB7, we already talked about that.
20:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, moving down, what does SB 53 actually do?
20:14
SPEAKER_00: Um instant reporting to state authorities.
20:17
SPEAKER_00: If a frontier developer experiences a critical safety incident, imagine a model that unexpectedly helps bypass cybersecurity or materially deceives users.
20:27
SPEAKER_00: They must report it to the California Office of Emergency Services.
20:31
SPEAKER_00: So it's like requiring airlines to log serious near misses, not just crashes.
20:35
SPEAKER_00: The whistleblower whistleblower protection employees at AI labs would get legal cover to call out dangerous practices.
20:43
SPEAKER_00: And that's similar to safety hotlines on construction sites.
20:46
SPEAKER_00: You know, better speak up before the beam collapses, sort of thing.
20:50
SPEAKER_00: Public compute cluster, the state would stand up shared affordable computing for researchers and startups.
20:57
SPEAKER_00: Picture College of the Canyons out here in Santa Clarita having access to high-end AI weight rooms without big tech budget.
21:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so the systems that we're using, the Chad GPTs when I'm preparing for my show or Grok or the different things that I'm putting together for my using, using it with my businesses in Santa Clara AI, yeah, it's nothing like the researchers get to use.
21:18
SPEAKER_00: They they get something that's a lot more unlocked.
21:20
SPEAKER_00: If they ask it questions, like if I start asking it questions, how to build a bomb, give me a virus, this sort of thing, it's gonna tell me no.
21:27
SPEAKER_00: And it's, you know, uh, I might be able to poke it and prod it and get a little bit, but realistically, they're they're pretty controlled now.
21:34
SPEAKER_00: In fact, um some boy met his demise, killing himself when one of these systems kind of uh prompted him into it.
21:43
SPEAKER_00: I think that was maybe an open AI system, but don't quote me on that.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: I but I think that's what that happened to be.
21:49
SPEAKER_00: There's rules put in place.
21:51
SPEAKER_00: So people that go on there, and a lot of people are interacting with it like it's their best friend.
21:56
SPEAKER_00: You know, that's that's a different world, but they're there, they're talking.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: To it, and you know, they say, you know, I'm sad, I'm depressed.
22:03
SPEAKER_00: And maybe they say, you know, I've been thinking about this.
22:05
SPEAKER_00: And the system says, trying to be its friend, trying to be uh, you know, cordial, might kind of verify, and then that might be all that person needs to go out and and finish it, or try to finish it.
22:19
SPEAKER_00: That's that's a horrible place.
22:21
SPEAKER_00: So those controls should be put in place.
22:23
SPEAKER_00: We'll have to see what happens with that.
22:24
SPEAKER_00: But if you have kids and you're one of those that gives your kids, you know, here's some conviction for you.
22:31
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, but you that you hand your your your child your iPhone, right?
22:35
SPEAKER_00: Or you go to the restaurant and they have their iPad.
22:37
SPEAKER_00: It's cool, and maybe they're playing a game that you vetted because you're a good parent.
22:41
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if that's great for them.
22:43
SPEAKER_00: Also, that game that they're playing.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: It's probably, if not yet, it will be soon, infused with AI.
22:49
SPEAKER_00: What's the what is the reason?
22:53
SPEAKER_00: What's the what's the end-of-game strategy for that AI?
22:56
SPEAKER_00: What is that trying to do?
22:58
SPEAKER_00: Is that AI put in place like we see on Amazon and these other systems that are trying to get us to buy more, trying to tease us?
23:04
SPEAKER_00: We have our social media channels again, they're dialed in just perfectly.
23:08
SPEAKER_00: They know exactly what Connor wants to see.
23:10
SPEAKER_00: They know how many videos Connor wants to see in a row.
23:13
SPEAKER_00: They throw a crappy one in there, or maybe something slightly crappy that might get Connor's interest.
23:18
SPEAKER_00: And Connor then moves a little bit left of his center or right of his center, wanting to see this video.
23:23
SPEAKER_00: And then all of a sudden, because Connor watched it all the way through, maybe the next thing, send him a little bit more of those.
23:29
SPEAKER_00: So slowly it takes us, kind of like the salad dressing aisle, drives me crazy.
23:33
SPEAKER_00: Nobody needs those many choices of salad dressing.
23:36
SPEAKER_00: AI is starting to hone our choices, starting to drive us to a particular end.
23:41
SPEAKER_00: We have to see.
23:42
SPEAKER_00: I don't know where these models are driving us.
23:44
SPEAKER_00: One of the things I will throw out there, if you were back in the day when Google came out, there was Ask Jeeves, Yahoo! Search, Ask or AOL, there was that.
23:53
SPEAKER_00: So there were these different search parties out there, then it all kind of became Google.
23:57
SPEAKER_00: Some of them still held to some of the other ones, at least in the beginning, they held on pretty good because people were against the big Google.
24:04
SPEAKER_00: But you know, Google took over pretty much everything in search.
24:07
SPEAKER_00: And for a while, there was nothing sponsored.
24:10
SPEAKER_00: There were no ads.
24:11
SPEAKER_00: And then the brain, some brain child came up and said, Oh my God, we could charge for this.
24:16
SPEAKER_00: And boom, you know, Google Pay-Per-Click was born.
24:20
SPEAKER_00: And that particular system has just gotten bigger and bigger and bigger.
24:24
SPEAKER_00: But now, because people are using these different large language models to search, that's starting not to be used as much.
24:31
SPEAKER_00: So the monetization isn't where they wanted it or where it can it used to be.
24:35
SPEAKER_00: Now, right now you're using these different search engines as LLMs as a search engine.
24:41
SPEAKER_00: So your ChatGPT or your Meta or Claude or whichever one you happen to be using, Grok or uh what's Microsoft there, yeah, shows you how much I use it.
24:50
SPEAKER_00: Copilot.
24:51
SPEAKER_00: But you're people are searching on those as if they're Google.
24:54
SPEAKER_00: They're asking questions and it giving you a result.
24:56
SPEAKER_00: Those results, at least as far as I see, what are we, September 23rd, 2025?
25:01
SPEAKER_00: There's no money there.
25:02
SPEAKER_00: They're not in, they're not um getting any kind of a return.
25:05
SPEAKER_00: Now, I will say that it does carry a Chat GPT URL typically when you click on one of those in the ad.
25:12
SPEAKER_00: And I don't know if that's being counted somewhere or maybe showing preparing that particular business.
25:17
SPEAKER_00: Look, we sent, you know, 95% of the visitors that search for your business, we're sending them through a chat GPT to your business.
25:26
SPEAKER_00: So in the future, we're gonna use that to charge you or monetize you because we have the data to show you how important having your business monetized on Chat GPT would be or whatever the other large language model.
25:39
SPEAKER_00: That's coming.
25:39
SPEAKER_00: But right now it's nice and clean, like Google was back in the day if you were there.
25:43
SPEAKER_00: But now we're gonna see that start to pick up, and that's probably gonna be a thing.
25:47
SPEAKER_00: And they're gonna be able to monetize themselves further.
25:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, there's that.
25:51
SPEAKER_00: I forgot where I was going.
25:52
SPEAKER_00: Let's let's go on.
25:53
SPEAKER_00: 56 years old.
25:54
SPEAKER_00: That's what happens.
25:54
SPEAKER_00: All right, no robot bosses, got that.
25:57
SPEAKER_00: We did the robot boss thing.
25:58
SPEAKER_00: Uh, SCV businesses.
26:00
SPEAKER_00: Oh, um, just announced, oh, this is good.
26:03
SPEAKER_00: So one more backdrop for families.
26:05
SPEAKER_00: Open AI just announced stricter teen protections, age prediction, under 18 experience that blocks sexual content and restricts self-harm dialogues, and in acute scenarios, escalation of parents or authorities.
26:18
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's because of the suicide thing.
26:20
SPEAKER_00: So that's good.
26:21
SPEAKER_00: Translations for households tools have improving, but they're not a babysitter.
26:25
SPEAKER_00: So talking about your phone, if you just understand that if your kids are on your phone or they're using ChatGPT, just probably not.
26:34
SPEAKER_00: If you go to the Silicon Valley and those places and you look at those tech parents, and you can do research on this, a lot of them, you know, their kids don't have phone.
26:43
SPEAKER_00: I know Diamanda's kids, I think they're 15 or 16.
26:45
SPEAKER_00: If you watch him, Peter, he, I don't think his kids have a phone yet.
26:50
SPEAKER_00: They have uh some kind of a tablet, but again, it's very restrictive in uses.
26:55
SPEAKER_00: His kids are still going outside, digging in the dirt and you know, kicking trees and stuff and seeing how bad it hurts.
27:00
SPEAKER_00: So that's that's where that thought process is.
27:03
SPEAKER_00: And this cat, Diamandis, if you're watching, I'm sure I'm screwing that up.
27:07
SPEAKER_00: But if you watch him, he does moonshots, that particular podcast.
27:10
SPEAKER_00: Him and Salim and these other cats on their Dave, uh, just brainy people, and they give a lot of insight, but they themselves, with their kids, they restrict them from the technology because they believe it it could end up causing things that they don't want caused, whatever those things are.
27:29
SPEAKER_00: So maybe if you have kids or you're just starting to have a family, you're thinking about it, who knows what five years now?
27:35
SPEAKER_00: Who knows what kind of implants are gonna be almost mandatory to even function?
27:39
SPEAKER_00: Because if we have something superhuman and our IQs are limited in a biological way where you're pretty much blessed with your capability or capacity, when you get a little bit older, maybe they're gonna try to increase functionality and maybe mark of the beast, here we come in revelation.
27:55
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if that's gonna be the case.
27:57
SPEAKER_00: But to be able to really function and do things and be able to survive, you need to have an extra, you know, 100 IQ points slapped in your brain through some kind of an implant.
28:06
SPEAKER_00: So now you can communicate not only with the AI but other enhanced human beings.
28:11
SPEAKER_00: I know a lot of people in my periphery that are kicking and screaming, they're not gonna do any kind of an implant.
28:16
SPEAKER_00: And the older you get, it seems like, well, I like things the old way.
28:20
SPEAKER_00: And that's cool, and that might work for you.
28:21
SPEAKER_00: Maybe you have in a retirement, I don't.
28:23
SPEAKER_00: Maybe you got a 401k, I got nothing like that.
28:25
SPEAKER_00: Maybe you have health insurance.
28:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't have that either.
28:28
SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, we're uh we're we're all in on all this, except to a point.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna go out there and play suicide or be the first tester of these different systems.
28:38
SPEAKER_00: And I still try to stay on top of what's happening.
28:42
SPEAKER_00: So while I've kind of been a techie guy all along with that segue into the police world for almost, well, 17 years regular, three years as a reserve, I still embraced technology, still looked at it.
28:55
SPEAKER_00: But, you know, to have somebody put something in my brain, yeah, yeah, we should, we should wait for the test.
29:00
SPEAKER_00: If they call me tomorrow and say, hey, hey, you know what?
29:03
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna make this free for you.
29:04
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna stick this thing in your brain.
29:06
SPEAKER_00: You want to be a test subject?
29:07
SPEAKER_00: No, no.
29:08
SPEAKER_00: Well, I guess maybe how much?
29:10
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
29:10
SPEAKER_00: But anyway, you got to be careful.
29:12
SPEAKER_00: There's gonna be a lot of offerings like that.
29:13
SPEAKER_00: You got to protect yourself.
29:15
SPEAKER_00: Learn what's out there, don't go into it arbitrarily.
29:18
SPEAKER_00: When you're going on social media again, I tell people this all the time.
29:22
SPEAKER_00: Just know your center, whatever your grounding is.
29:25
SPEAKER_00: I'm grounded in Christianity, biblical-based, Bible thumping Christianity, the way that it says the New King James or the King James version, different, but but that's that's where my grounding is.
29:36
SPEAKER_00: So if after a while, and I try to spend, you know, almost every day in the scripture, if I get away from that, then I'll know something's happened.
29:44
SPEAKER_00: I'll know that my center was moved by what I'm seeing, by what I'm looking at, by the social media I'm tuned into.
29:51
SPEAKER_00: And it's all AI generated.
29:53
SPEAKER_00: And pretty soon it's all going to be AI generated.
29:56
SPEAKER_00: But as far as feeding you, most of that is AI generated because it's giving you what you want almost at 100%.
30:04
SPEAKER_00: But there's percentages where it doesn't give you everything you want because then the challenge isn't there.
30:09
SPEAKER_00: And it's got to spike our dopamine.
30:11
SPEAKER_00: So there's probably some clever person-to-person algorithm or person-to-person data where it knows exactly what Connor likes, which is different than what Fred likes and different than what Jimmy likes, and so on and so forth.
30:24
SPEAKER_00: So it's probably dialed into all of us.
30:26
SPEAKER_00: It's incredibly advanced, it's very exciting.
30:29
SPEAKER_00: I don't look at it as, oh my God, it's all over, just bury my head in the sand.
30:33
SPEAKER_00: I look at it, come on, bring it on.
30:34
SPEAKER_00: Let's see what's next.
30:36
SPEAKER_00: And if I have a voice, I'm going to use it.
30:39
SPEAKER_00: And if I see issues with safety, and it seems like there's not a lot being paid attention to that, I'll be the first to tell you if you're watching, maybe that's something we need to address and talk about.
30:50
SPEAKER_00: Not, you know, the ply the plywood on the corner with spray paint, the end is coming soon with the big bell ringing out there with the fancy hair and the robe.
30:58
SPEAKER_00: Maybe not that far.
31:00
SPEAKER_00: But, you know, we're building something that's smarter than all of us.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: And it's not just one thing smarter than art of all of us.
31:08
SPEAKER_00: It could be infinitesimal creatures, these AI, AI bots smarter than all of us.
31:15
SPEAKER_00: And I'm not even talking about a physical form at this point, just in the machine.
31:20
SPEAKER_00: But again, it could have that many copies of itself, all of them working on specific other functions.
31:26
SPEAKER_00: On one side of it, it could save all of us.
31:29
SPEAKER_00: It could make it so none of us would have to work again, except, you know, to do things that we enjoy and maybe challenge us in particular ways and protect all of us.
31:38
SPEAKER_00: We would have pretty much lives that would go on as long as we would want.
31:43
SPEAKER_00: And we would never be unhealthy.
31:45
SPEAKER_00: We would never get sick.
31:46
SPEAKER_00: We wouldn't have to lift weights unless we really enjoyed lifting weights.
31:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, that would be cool.
31:51
SPEAKER_00: I don't mind lifting weights, but you know, sometimes you don't want to lift weights, but I still push myself to do it.
31:57
SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's my challenge.
31:58
SPEAKER_00: Maybe I'll need that in the future.
32:00
SPEAKER_00: But work, yeah, I like work.
32:02
SPEAKER_00: I like what I do.
32:03
SPEAKER_00: I like both ends of it.
32:04
SPEAKER_00: The AI integration is a growth architect.
32:07
SPEAKER_00: I love that stuff.
32:08
SPEAKER_00: I love the real estate stuff.
32:10
SPEAKER_00: But I'm very malleable.
32:12
SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's something if you're concerned about job loss in AI.
32:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you don't need retooling at 56.
32:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I had to retool at 56.
32:21
SPEAKER_00: I had to start a lot of things over due to issues in life.
32:25
SPEAKER_00: But I'm able to wrap my mind around it.
32:27
SPEAKER_00: If I can do it, I think you can too.
32:29
SPEAKER_00: And uh just be good to yourselves, watch out for each other.
32:32
SPEAKER_00: Don't forget that human quality that we all need to embrace and be careful.
32:37
SPEAKER_00: You can find more about me.
32:38
SPEAKER_00: If you want to join my community, it's free.
32:41
SPEAKER_00: I'm not charging those membership fees.
32:43
SPEAKER_00: I see other people charge it, but santaclaritaai.com.
32:47
SPEAKER_00: In addition to that, you can just go to Santa Clarita Artificial Intelligence.com.
32:51
SPEAKER_00: You see the blog, you can join the community.
32:53
SPEAKER_00: I have a webinar I put on every Monday at 10 a.m.
32:55
SPEAKER_00: talking about AI.
32:56
SPEAKER_00: It's uh probably not as exciting as this, but it's not bad.
32:59
SPEAKER_00: All right.
32:59
SPEAKER_00: When you're ready, let me know.
33:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm Connor with honor.
33:01
SPEAKER_00: I will be 10 8 until the next time we talk.
33:05
SPEAKER_00: Thank you for watching.
33:06
SPEAKER_00: Woo! I only got through two points.
33:08
SPEAKER_00: I just need to slow down.
33:09
SPEAKER_00: All right.
33:10
SPEAKER_00: 33 minutes.
33:11
SPEAKER_00: Love you to meet it.
33:12
SPEAKER_00: Talk to you soon.