Latest / 52 Cues - A Production Music and Sync Podcast / How to Find the Art in Artisan (with Hans York)
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- 0:30Hans: that came because I was getting tired, I was getting burned out and I wondered you know what is it?
- 0:40Hans: How can I fill my soul?
- 0:41Hans: I know I can.
- 0:42Hans: You know we live in a wonderful part of the country.
- 0:44Hans: I can go hiking.
- 0:45Hans: That does something.
- 0:47Hans: But when I'm not artistically in line with myself, no matter what I do, I'm just.
- 0:57Hans: Something is just off.
- 0:59Hans: And I was off and I was.
- 1:00Hans: I could see myself.
- 1:02Hans: I was watching myself like how I tilted more and more and I was like this is not good, I need to do something.
- 1:20Dave: What is happening everybody?
- 1:21Dave: This is Dave Kroff, and welcome back to another episode of the 52Q's podcast, helping you grow your career in production and library music.
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- 2:09Dave: It's always a real pleasure to welcome members of the 52Q's community here on the podcast, and today I want to welcome Hans York to the show.
- 2:18Dave: Hans is a very successful production and library music composer with credits and albums and releases, and we talk about his journey into production music, his role and experiences with Sink Academy and Sink my Music and what he's been doing lately to stave off creative stagnation.
- 2:39Dave: I am man, I don't know.
- 2:42Dave: It's like having family alongside you know, just chatting.
- 2:46Dave: It's so good to welcome Hans York to the podcast.
- 2:51Dave: Hans, how are you doing, my friend?
- 2:53Hans: Thanks so much for having me, dave.
- 2:54Hans: I really appreciate that.
- 2:55Hans: I'm wonderful, it's a sunny day in Seattle.
- 2:59Dave: Yeah, I got to say I feel like I owe you an apology for waiting so long to bring you on the podcast, and here's why the 52Q's attracts folks from all walks, all skill sets, all levels of career, but we have amongst us, we have somebody who is right alongside the professionals doing the work you know, and I just want to say that I'm honored that you've chosen to spend, you know, part of your very precious time and energy and pour into the community at 52Q's, and so I just wanted to say first, thank you so much for everything that you contribute to the community, the feedback that you give.
- 3:49Dave: You're just so generous with your time and I appreciate you, Hans.
- 3:53Dave: Thank you so much, man.
- 3:55Hans: Thank you, Dave.
- 3:56Hans: It goes both ways, as we know.
- 3:58Hans: You know your community has been wonderful, and you know it is a lonely profession, and so the community becomes kind of the crucial part of it, and 52Q's in particular is just wonderful.
- 4:17Hans: You've met wonderful people and met you, so that's, you know, wonderful.
- 4:22Dave: Thank you.
- 4:23Dave: Thank you so much, man, and you might recognize Hans and I remember when you joined the community, another member said oh my gosh, that's Hans York.
- 4:34Dave: I know Hans because Hans has been with Sync my Music.
- 4:38Dave: You are one of the reviewers for Sync my Music.
- 4:41Dave: You have credits, the usual cast of characters Discovery Channel, Netflix, HBO, ABC, all of those things.
- 4:51Dave: So, again, really happy to have you walking amongst us and tell us about your journey.
- 4:58Dave: You know, I love hearing how folks from all different parts of the world, all different backgrounds, how they arrive to production music.
- 5:08Hans: Well, you know I have to go quite some ways back, but I'll speed it up a little bit.
- 5:14Dave: Hey, my story starts in the middle school, so go as far back as you want.
- 5:19Hans: You know, I'm a professional musician since I'm 18 years old and I somehow convinced my parents that they have to support me and they did, which was unusual for the time.
- 5:32Hans: But you know for sure I didn't want to do production music.
- 5:36Hans: I was much into jazz in the beginning, into rock, but mostly into jazz and modern pop music later, and so I did that.
- 5:48Hans: I started touring quite avidly with bands and back in Germany all this that's all happening there and I started producing albums as well, which I really enjoyed.
- 6:03Hans: I kind of have a good sense for different things or what needs to happen, and I can trust it.
- 6:11Hans: It's kind of a God feeling, it's like after listening to all kinds of music and I kind of know okay, no, that doesn't work, let's try something different.
- 6:20Dave: You know what you like and what works, yeah, and so I did that.
- 6:25Hans: Then I started.
- 6:26Hans: I always was interested in composing early on, and I always did, and at some point I was fascinated by Brazilian music in particular.
- 6:36Hans: That was something that really touched my heart in ways that I didn't know what to do with it, and it was so strong that at some point I had to go there and I planned on living there.
- 6:48Hans: Actually, I planned on living in Rio de Janeiro.
- 6:50Hans: I knew relatively fast that I'm going to be the eternal gringo at White Long Air and everybody there already knows all that, so it's like there's no need for that.
- 7:07Hans: But I really wanted to bring that back to Germany and infuse the German pop music with all that wonderful rhythm and the harmonies, and I always found that Brazilian music for me was the only kind of true world music.
- 7:24Hans: In that regard, world music was always like okay, go into a record store.
- 7:29Hans: Oh, that dates me, okay.
- 7:33Dave: I'm with you though.
- 7:34Hans: Look at the world music section was always Asia, from parts in the world, but for me world music was the hybridness of it, and Brazilian music has the classical music from Europe, it has the fado and the folk music from Portugal and it has the indigenous sounds of the forest.
- 7:54Hans: Then Brazil has had more Africans as slaves than America ever did, so there they could actually do their religion and their music, and so the influence there is enormous.
- 8:13Hans: And especially when I was there in the north in particular, I was so fascinated with all that and so when I came home to Germany I started recording my first solo album with.
- 8:29Hans: My compositions at the time were somewhere between Steely Dan Sting with Brazilian influences, so some great musicians on there we spend.
- 8:41Hans: I recorded in a little village at the end of a valley 80 miles from Frankfurt.
- 8:48Hans: It was perfect and the album flopped dramatically.
- 8:54Hans: That story got really sad.
- 8:58Hans: No, no, it's okay.
- 8:59Dave: It's all part of the story.
- 9:03Hans: All the misses actually led me to where I'm now, and I like where I'm at.
- 9:08Hans: So then at some point I recorded the second album in Germany, which flopped as well.
- 9:16Hans: It was just not the time for that, and at some point I decided to.
- 9:22Hans: I always wanted to go to the States.
- 9:25Hans: I had when I was 17, I had a full scholarship for Berkeley School of Music, but at the time the exchange rate was dramatic, as I think four to one, and so even with a full scholarship, room and board in Boston would just have been too hard for my parents, and so, in 1999, I just did it.
- 9:50Hans: It was an incredible winter.
- 9:53Hans: I was living in Berlin at the time, and Berlin is like Chicago.
- 9:58Hans: You know the winds and everything I was like.
- 10:02Hans: This is not for me.
- 10:03Hans: I'm just not made the other windy city.
- 10:06Dave: I'm not made for that.
- 10:07Hans: I'm more like I need sun.
- 10:09Hans: And so I called friends that I had in California.
- 10:13Hans: And yeah, and literally three weeks later I was in California, and once I was there I kind of knew I'll never look back.
- 10:24Hans: I mean, I had to go back once to get my things in order.
- 10:29Hans: But other than that, I knew America is it.
- 10:32Hans: And so I did the same thing in America.
- 10:35Hans: I produced, I played in bands, I toured, and before I came to production music, I actually toured quite extensively.
- 10:44Hans: I had like a schedule about 300 shows a year, and I was by myself, I was touring as a singer-songwriter, which I never wanted to.
- 10:54Hans: That was like you know.
- 10:57Hans: But the bands were hard for me because I was.
- 11:00Hans: It felt like I was always the one that was really committed and put everything aside for doing that.
- 11:07Hans: And there was always a couple of people in the bands that wouldn't, and so, you know, things never really went the way I thought they could, and at some point I just had it and said, ok, now it's just me and I'm going to do what I want to do.
- 11:21Hans: And so I ended up on the road by myself, which was great for a while, and then it was really challenging, you know.
- 11:29Hans: And so at some point, I think in 2016, I recorded my last album, but at the time it was already, you know, a Spotify was already really avid and once, once, somebody said at the concert man, hans, I got you a new album on Spotify, it's great.
- 11:48Hans: I said, yeah, now listen to this one song about a thousand times.
- 11:51Hans: And then I get a coffee.
- 11:54Dave: Right.
- 11:55Hans: I get some McNuggets, yes, and so I knew kind of because you know, I never made it that high or that far that I could actually sustain doing the touring without, you know, selling product and you know CDs were just not going anymore and at the time I was tired also and I wanted to.
- 12:17Hans: You know, I wanted to be home and home studio was perfect for that.
- 12:21Hans: And when COVID came I was already doing production music and I found Jesse, I think my music, you know, on online somewhere.
- 12:31Hans: I listened to him and he fascinated me, kind of like I knew he was speaking the truth and he was.
- 12:36Hans: He was honest and kind, but also like, very determined and I really appreciated that.
- 12:44Hans: So I started, I joined his community and then he has something similar that the family or had at the time as the, you know, 52q family was the syndicate.
- 12:57Hans: I did that and I got my first placements very fast and then he asked me to do some videos and some tutorials, which I love doing and you know, at some point he asked me when he launched a pro feedback.
- 13:12Hans: He asked me if I would be a part of that, and so I've done that.
- 13:18Hans: So it was a great journey, yeah.
- 13:24Dave: And here's what I really, really I just respect and love about you is you embody, like you're a lifelong student, right?
- 13:33Dave: And you, if I'm being honest, you encourage me to like, okay, where can I go to get better at my thing, cause you've achieved a great deal of success?
- 13:48Dave: You are professionally providing feedback and yet you, you're there nearly every week in our feedback sessions at 52Qs for the family.
- 13:58Dave: You're there, you're putting your stuff out there, you're receiving feedback, you give feedback and is that something that you've always had Like?
- 14:07Dave: You're always kind of sinking out mentors and looking to better yourself.
- 14:15Hans: I think that came with age, that really that came at the, at the.
- 14:22Hans: That didn't come right away, I think, you know, at some point it felt like, and especially when I, when I entered production music, I mean for one in Germany it is called Gebraus music means music that is used and it has a bad connotation to it.
- 14:42Hans: You know, it's just not.
- 14:44Hans: Yeah, it's not.
- 14:46Dave: Kind of like how stock music kind of has stock music yeah, it has a little twinge or it could be, yeah, and so I I think that's, I think that's a good thing.
- 14:54Hans: I was arrogant and I always thought I'm never going to do that and this is not really music.
- 14:58Hans: But I felt that when I started doing it I saw how, how, first, how fun it is to do that and to hear your own music and TV, and then how challenging it was and I realized that I really had no idea.
- 15:16Hans: And that's when kind of a new learning started.
- 15:20Hans: And you know, at the time I knew already like the best way to do it is with mentors and with people that are already ahead.
- 15:28Hans: And you you said it in a way best you said at some point I heard you sing like kind of I'm just a future version of yourself and I thought that was incredibly kind to say and it was really encouraging that you know for everybody, no matter where they are.
- 15:49Hans: You know now you know I'm a little older, so I don't know how much, how much future I do have, but I certainly am grateful for spending it with likes like you and within the you know 52 cues community, where you know I make new friends and I'll learn something every time I'm there.
- 16:12Hans: You know my mom was a teacher, so it's like that's just eternal.
- 16:15Hans: You know, for me education is kind of a.
- 16:18Dave: Yeah, my yeah, my mom was a teacher, my grandmother was a teacher, my aunt, my aunt was a teacher and yeah, I come from a long lineage of teachers, so it doesn't surprise me at all that you have teaching in your blood at all.
- 16:32Dave: Let's tell us a little bit more about just your experience with Sync my Music and for anybody just curious, because I've, you know, I've not, I've not been in that community.
- 16:45Dave: For anybody curious, what are, where do you see, 52 cues and Sync my Music?
- 16:51Dave: Where are the differences?
- 16:52Dave: Where can they kind of work together?
- 16:54Dave: Because you know, I believe that not one community has all all the answers.
- 16:58Dave: 52 cues isn't for everybody.
- 17:00Dave: I don't have all the answers, but I think you know together we are better and that there is room at the table, Absolutely everybody.
- 17:08Dave: But since you you are, you are so familiar with Sync my Music and Jesse and everything that he does over there, Can you tell us a little bit about that community and how it could dovetail in with what we do here at 52 cues?
- 17:21Hans: I was always thinking that that it would be great for those two communities to come together in some ways.
- 17:30Hans: You know, I mean you it's, it's it's different.
- 17:33Hans: You know, I think you are to some degree, you are more a teacher.
- 17:40Hans: I mean, jesse is a teacher, but he's mostly like a doing production or did production.
- 17:48Hans: You know, when he I mean he's coming back right now.
- 17:51Hans: He's just told me it was like man.
- 17:52Hans: Finally he's working on writing again, which is great.
- 17:56Hans: He has a wonderful style and I really love his stuff.
- 18:00Hans: It's more coming more from the rock, but he's a drummer as well.
- 18:03Hans: So that was interesting, you know, knowing that you are a drummer, and I thought what is it with these drummers that are just directing?
- 18:09Hans: And they are directing.
- 18:12Hans: It's like, I mean, in some ways you do what you do in a band, the drummer is the director, period.
- 18:18Hans: If the drummer isn't fully there, nothing happens.
- 18:22Dave: And we do it from the back of the stage and you do it from everybody in front.
- 18:25Hans: Yes, yes, so that is already a given Now.
- 18:29Hans: You know, I did not know of 52 cues in the beginning, so I only knew about sync Academy or sync my music at the time.
- 18:37Hans: And Jesse has his services based on a lot of tutorials that are out there, so literally in all departments from you know the different styles, how to create a song from beginning to start, from beginning to start, from beginning to the end, in usually four, four, four or five videos, and so with all kinds of different styles.
- 19:07Hans: Then the technical part about mixing, mastering, so there's really like in every style there's something there.
- 19:18Hans: Then he has a which I really liked, had tutorials serious about the psyche, psyche 101 and the pitfalls of you know of that of kind of the production music, how we can, you know, fall into these spaces where we don't hear from the libraries or our songs are not placed and you'd never know, and kind of you have to wait a year.
- 19:43Hans: All these things that come into into place.
- 19:46Hans: And he had, you know, library owners already.
- 19:54Hans: He was already connected with them and had them in sync Academy as well.
- 19:58Hans: That's when he, when he did the syndicate, there were, you know, as a library owner and you had like briefs and you wanted certain things, and so people could directly basically start getting their feet wet and work with a library.
- 20:17Dave: Yeah, that's really cool.
- 20:18Dave: I didn't.
- 20:19Dave: I didn't realize that kind of video curriculum was was such a large part of what they do over there.
- 20:26Dave: I had pro feedback and I knew about the community and and I knew about the syndicate and everything.
- 20:29Dave: But that's really good, because that's something that 52 cues doesn't do a lot of at all, and on purpose, right Cause there are other folks out there, whether it's sync Academy or whether it's production music Academy, that are going to take care of that and that's not really a goal of 52 cues, but that's really good to know.
- 20:46Dave: It's really good to know.
- 20:48Hans: Yeah, and so it's.
- 20:49Hans: I mean, that's what that was, how I kind of learned you know what, what to do, how to do that.
- 20:54Hans: And he has a service called sync edge also where he where he basically pre pre looks at at libraries and says, okay, here's the thing that library might need that particular style of music, and he makes a little video about it.
- 21:13Hans: So it's really really helpful as well.
- 21:15Hans: And then about a year and a half ago he started, like you said, he started pro feedback, which plays in into that whole community as well, and that's that's really, that's really fantastic.
- 21:28Dave: Thanks for sharing that, something I've always been curious about and I know, knowing that that's what you do over there and help them out, which is why I'm so thankful when you're in the feedback sessions here at 52 cues, because I feel like like you're just really bringing a deep knowledge of the industry, of what works and what doesn't, and so.
- 21:50Dave: So, yeah, so, thanks, thank you.
- 21:52Dave: I've been doing some things that I've, that I've been enjoying of yours lately, and I want to, I want you to kind of talk through the process of how you got there, which is your YouTube channel.
- 22:01Dave: If you, if you, if you have viewers and listeners, if you're listening, go go check out Hans's YouTube channel, just subscribe.
- 22:07Dave: It's really really good because Hans is really, really talented.
- 22:10Dave: But you've been doing these I think you're calling them guitar poems.
- 22:13Dave: Talk a little bit about that and was was, was that kind of a reaction to feeling just rung out in the production music lane and you have to find your voice.
- 22:26Dave: Talk about that whole process.
- 22:30Hans: Thanks for asking.
- 22:31Hans: Yes, that that was that came because I was, I was getting tired, I was getting burned out and I wondered you know what?
- 22:42Hans: What is it?
- 22:43Hans: How can I?
- 22:44Hans: How can I fill my soul?
- 22:45Hans: I know I can.
- 22:46Hans: You know we live in a wonderful part of the country.
- 22:48Hans: I can go hiking, that does something.
- 22:51Hans: But when I'm not artistically in in line with myself, no matter what I do, I'm just, something is just off.
- 23:03Hans: And I was off and I was.
- 23:04Hans: I could see myself, I was watching myself like how more, how I tilted, more and more and I was like this is not good, I need to do something.
- 23:14Hans: And so, you know I I started just playing the guitar again and felt like, ah, now I know again why, why, why am I a musician?
- 23:25Hans: Why was I so fascinated?
- 23:26Hans: Because at some point I grabbed the guitar and it was that's it, that's what I want to do.
- 23:33Hans: And so I started and I, like you know, these days I like music that has space, kind of that.
- 23:43Hans: And I started playing these guitar, little poems and just like little pieces.
- 23:48Hans: Some were improvised at the at the time, some others I had a little idea, but I was, I was playing with the sound.
- 23:57Hans: You know, I had this, this beautiful kind of a reverb and little echo with it.
- 24:02Hans: So I didn't have to do much.
- 24:04Hans: It just felt I could play a chord and could enjoy the way that the harmonic, what it does to me, right.
- 24:15Hans: And so all of a sudden I found myself in that, in that artistic world again, and I love it.
- 24:23Hans: I mean that's where I come from, right, and I know that we had conversations about the artisan, which is kind of the.
- 24:32Hans: That's a necessity for production music.
- 24:35Hans: You can't, as an artist, you can't come in and stay the artist.
- 24:39Hans: You have to reinforce the artisan side.
- 24:42Hans: Now, what?
- 24:45Hans: What came to my aid, so to speak, is the, the current development of AI, right, where it is more, it's necessary to bring in your own voice again.
- 25:00Hans: You have to up your game and bring in your own voice.
- 25:04Hans: And I felt like, yeah, I mean I might not do the most popular music or the.
- 25:11Hans: You know like naturally that is placed anywhere, but I do have developed my own voice over all these years and I'm grateful that nowadays I have tools in which I can share some of that.
- 25:27Hans: And you know, when I did these guitar poems I really didn't care much about how like promotion or how many people watch them is.
- 25:37Hans: If 20 watch them, that is totally fine with me, because I had decades in music where I had to do personal self promotion and you know I nobody likes that period.
- 25:51Hans: I don't know anybody of my colleagues that liked that.
- 25:53Hans: But I became good at it, you know.
- 25:55Hans: I became a fit.
- 25:56Hans: I say efficient.
- 25:57Hans: I was, I was doing okay and so I knew this is not what I want to do, because I didn't want to look at it and feel like, oh you know, I only got 23 views.
- 26:11Hans: That is bad, you know, versus all the other thousands and thousands of views that some people get with their YouTube stuff.
- 26:20Hans: So I let that literally go and just did it for myself.
- 26:27Dave: Yeah, I totally get that.
- 26:28Dave: Yeah, because even I, you know, I'll release an episode of the podcast and I'll refresh it and say, ooh, any new subscribers and I, you have to kind of just this isn't why I do it, I don't.
- 26:40Dave: Yeah, there are many better ways to to increase views on YouTube than like hour long podcast episodes.
- 26:50Dave: Likewise, there's better ways.
- 26:53Dave: If that's your goal, then you kind of need to go down another path.
- 26:57Dave: But putting stuff out for yourself, putting stuff out for the handful of folks who you know are going to enjoy them and I am one of those handful of folks.
- 27:08Dave: So so I am, I don't want to put you on the spot, but please release these old Spotify.
- 27:14Dave: I want to, I want to, I want to listen to them, you know, out in the wild, in the car and all that stuff.
- 27:21Hans: Actually that that was something you know I did.
- 27:23Hans: It did a selection of 12 songs that I'm I'm planning to release and one of the libraries that I'm working with was really interested in them and they really liked them, and so I'm kind of you know, I'm in in negotiations about, you know, if I this isn't, this is a project where I would like to keep my name on it, to keep my name connected with it.
- 27:53Hans: They mean something to me other than you know and that particular library.
- 27:59Hans: That would not work so far.
- 28:02Hans: But we are in negotiations and you know, maybe, maybe that's where this is going right, but if not, I'll, I'll just release them the way they are.
- 28:13Hans: And you know a very good friend of mine, a great guitar player.
- 28:18Hans: I talked to him and I said well, you know, I have to go back now.
- 28:22Hans: I have to go back and rerecord all those and really make it proper.
- 28:25Hans: And he said what?
- 28:27Hans: No, just, I agree with that.
- 28:29Hans: Go in there and just get the sound of the video.
- 28:32Hans: You know, I mean I recorded.
- 28:34Dave: I didn't even record it into my logic, I just recorded it into just take the MP4, strip out the audio, maybe run a mastering pass, you know, and yeah, man.
- 28:46Dave: Yeah, well, I've really been enjoying them and as I was watching them, I found myself wondering how have you come to turn off the commerce brain, the artisan brain?
- 29:00Dave: Because anytime I'm like playing around or experimenting or it could be like I'm learning how to write a nonfiction or learning how to write sci-fi my brain I don't know if it's the entrepreneurial bone in my body my brain goes okay, how can I monetize this?
- 29:17Dave: How can I turn this?
- 29:18Dave: Is it usable?
- 29:19Dave: Is it sellable?
- 29:20Dave: How do you find yourself kind of turning that off?
- 29:24Dave: Because I can't get entrepreneur Dave to shut up.
- 29:28Hans: I think you have to teach me how to turn it on first, oh, before I can turn it off.
- 29:34Hans: I think that is to be to be 100% here.
- 29:38Hans: I think that was always something I struggled with, you know, otherwise I would not have chosen the path that I chose.
- 29:46Hans: That, that was, if I had any kind of sense of entrepreneurial and money, I would not have done what I've done all my life.
- 29:56Hans: And you know, now it's more like I'm better at it.
- 30:02Hans: It still lacks sometimes and I'm still dreaming of green pastures.
- 30:08Hans: So you know, it's actually not hard for me to turn it off.
- 30:17Dave: So you've never been like playing something and thought, huh, I can make a whole cue out of that.
- 30:24Hans: No, it was an afterthought.
- 30:26Hans: It was like when I you know, sometimes I take a piece that I wrote and put it under a just under some words or somebody speaking, and I see what it does.
- 30:40Hans: Does it?
- 30:41Hans: Is it working?
- 30:42Hans: Is it is it fighting with the voice or is it just actually kind of?
- 30:46Hans: Oh, this gives a nice atmosphere and so when I put the guitar music under some of those you know tracks, I felt like, hmm, this is actually like a really soothing atmosphere and I think these days also, the reason why why I did these the particular style of music, was that you know, the world is crazy.
- 31:17Hans: The world out there is completely upside down, no matter where you look.
- 31:22Hans: I know America is very America centric, but you know, I'm a, I'm a true immigrant.
- 31:28Hans: I'm neither German nor American anymore, but I look into the world and it's everywhere and I need that for just to calm myself down sometimes.
- 31:39Dave: Yeah Well, with your permission, I'd love, I'd love, to roll one of these here during the show, would that?
- 31:45Dave: Would that be all right?
- 31:45Dave: Absolutely.
- 31:47Dave: All right, so we're gonna take a listen, and again, this is just a brief taste, but let's take a listen to one of Hans's guitar poems Beautiful work, man, I'm telling you.
- 33:50Dave: I promise you, if those get a fun spot, I'm just gonna strung our immune to doing this.
- 33:55Dave: I've commented on the videos and like, please put about spot, and the reason is is because this is like I see myself listening to these, like during the times of the night, like when I need to decelerate, right, shannon and I we have like like an embargo on TV and everything after around nine o'clock and so we put on playlists and so that's why it's just totally selfish.
- 34:18Dave: It's, hans, I'm just telling you, it's selfish, but just really, really, really beautiful work.
- 34:24Dave: Thank you so much for letting us share that and please go go subscribe to his YouTube channel.
- 34:29Dave: You won't, you won't be sorry, I promise, but, hans, if people want to want to find out more about you, where can they get in touch with you and how can they get more Hans in their life?
- 34:41Hans: Well, I have.
- 34:41Hans: My first website is HansYorkcom.
- 34:44Hans: That was mostly when I was touring as a singer songwriter and it has all my albums on there and you know some information about albums that are produced and kind of backstory.
- 34:56Hans: But I'm not doing much with that side anymore.
- 34:59Hans: And the more current one for production music, which has also sectioned with my, my own music, is HansYorkMusiccom.
- 35:08Hans: That's where people can reach me and I'm on Instagram and LinkedIn and all the Facebook and you know, social media.
- 35:15Dave: Yeah well, we're going to have links to all of that in the description and in the show notes below, so please be sure to check all of that out.
- 35:22Dave: But, hans, thank once again.
- 35:24Dave: Thank you so much for your generosity into the 52Qs community.
- 35:28Dave: You are a true MVP and just know that.
- 35:30Dave: I appreciate you and thanks for joining me today on the podcast.
- 35:34Hans: Thank you so much for having me.
- 35:35Hans: Really appreciate you, Dave.
- 35:38Dave: Once again, a huge word of thanks to Hans for joining me on the podcast.
- 35:42Dave: He is such a valuable asset to the community.
- 35:45Dave: Thank you so much for joining me today and be sure to click all of the links in the description.
- 35:50Dave: Yeah, subscribe to him, go, go, listen to his music.
- 35:53Dave: It has actually been released on Spotify since the recording of that interview and so you definitely need to check him out.
- 36:01Dave: And again, a huge word of thanks to the family, friends and patron subscribers of 52Qs, and I want to announce that we have added a new subscriber tier, the 52Qs neighbor, which comes in at $4.99 a month or $49 a year, which gives you access not only to the music production live streams, which is two hours every week, but also the brand new production music Almanac, which is a living, growing ebook of production music topics.
- 36:31Dave: Think of it like the production music's hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy.
- 36:36Dave: And so that is for our neighbors, subscribers over at 52Qs.
- 36:40Dave: Well, neighbors, family and friends get access to all of those things.
- 36:45Dave: And just a quick note we are sundowning the Patreon.
- 36:50Dave: We started the Patreon way back in the Facebook days and as a virtual tip jar, if you will, and the community has grown kind of past, all of that, and so at the end of 2023, we will be shutting the Patreon down and it's our hope that you join us over as a 52Qs neighbor, family or friend.
- 37:14Dave: But that is going to do it for me this week.
- 37:16Dave: You definitely want to tune in next week, where I am joined by Jonas Freedman, who's going to tell us all about the world of being a composer's assistant, so you definitely want to check that out.
- 37:29Dave: But I do hope that you've had a fantastic week and just know and trust, friends, that the universe really does have amazing plans just for you.
- 37:39Dave: Until next time, peace.