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Set 2: Hot Take Tuesday (w/ Matt Leinart) · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: Woo!
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  Speaker 2: Still gots.
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  Speaker 1: Woo!
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  Speaker 3: I got to be honest with you, Bruce, there's a
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  Speaker 3: good chance I'd be high anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Woo!
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  Speaker 1: And I'm wondering how the football weekend was. Were you
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  Speaker 1: able to watch it? Wow, what happened?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm tired of him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm serious. How about that?
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  Speaker 5: In company. We are mother shuckers, baby.
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  Speaker 1: Woo!
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  Speaker 6: Bruce, does Faison Brandon's name sound like it's on backwards?
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  Speaker 1: No doubt.
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  Speaker 6: It's time to get your.
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  Speaker 6: It's time to get your financials. To get the all boat.
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  Speaker 5: You got nothing right there.
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  Speaker 6: This is not going well.
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  Speaker 2: This is Stu Gotts and Company.
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  Speaker 1: Stu, back to you.
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  Speaker 3: Our thanks to Christopher Mad Dog Russo for joining us
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  Speaker 3: in set number one. Matt Liner could have joined us
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  Speaker 3: in about 15 minutes here on set number two. It
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  Speaker 3: is a hot take Tuesday. I had no idea it's
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  Speaker 3: a hot take Tuesday. We've never done a hot take
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  Speaker 3: Tuesday before. We will get to that. in just a second,
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  Speaker 3: but Mikey A first, I am told, has an NFL
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  Speaker 3: question for both me and Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: What do you have, Mikey?
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  Speaker 7: So I was looking at a bunch of the standings
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  Speaker 7: as I was getting ready for things like if the
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  Speaker 7: season ended today and stuff like that, and I came
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  Speaker 7: across four things, and all I want you guys to
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  Speaker 7: do is power rank these things on how crazy they are.
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  Speaker 3: At this point in the season. All right, a power
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  Speaker 3: ranking of craziness, okay?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: So we'll start with the Giants being 4-2-1 atop the
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  Speaker 7: AFC East, NFC East, with Jackson Dart as their quarterback.
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  Speaker 7: And then next we'll throw in the Browns being 5-2
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  Speaker 7: atop the AFC North.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 7: The Vikings being 6-0 and the Chargers being 0-6. Where,
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  Speaker 7: if I would have told you before week one, this
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  Speaker 7: is what I've got, coming into week eight of the NFL.
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  Speaker 5: Power rank them at how crazy you think they were.
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  Speaker 3: So the Giants 4-2-1 without Jackson Dart is what you
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  Speaker 3: meant to say, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 5: With Jackson, I'm sorry, with Jackson Dart, with J.J. McCarthy
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  Speaker 5: is what I meant to say.
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  Speaker 3: Right, with a combination of Jackson Dart, Jameis Winston, and
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  Speaker 3: now J.J.
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  Speaker 1: McCarthy.
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  Speaker 5: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: They are 4-2-1.
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  Speaker 3: They're atop the NFC East. Okay, so that's one of them.
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  Speaker 3: The other one is the Chargers being 0-6. And what
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  Speaker 3: were the other two?
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  Speaker 6: Browns 5-2, Vikings 6-0.
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  Speaker 1: And we have to power rank these.
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  Speaker 6: In terms of most surprising?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Most surprising would be number one.
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  Speaker 3: I would say the Chargers being 0-6 to me is
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  Speaker 3: the most surprising thing to happen thus far in the
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  Speaker 3: NFL to me. The Browns being a close second.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would go, if I had to rank it
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  Speaker 6: in order of most surprising to least surprising, I would
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  Speaker 6: go Chargers 0-6, Browns being 5-2 atop the AFC North,
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  Speaker 6: Giants being 4-2-1 with that combination of quarterbacks, and then
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  Speaker 6: the least surprising, the Vikings being 6-0.
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  Speaker 3: Man, I'd probably flip the bottom two. The Vikings being
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  Speaker 3: 6-0 would be third for me. The Giants being 4-2-1,
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  Speaker 3: just because of John Harbaugh, that division's not very good.
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  Speaker 1: I would say that's the least surprising.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, but we didn't think that division wasn't going to
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  Speaker 7: be very good. Everybody was like, oh, well, Jaden Daniels
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  Speaker 7: coming back. Maybe Washington kind of finds a little bit
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  Speaker 7: of what they had two years ago. The Eagles are
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  Speaker 7: always the Eagles. And then, hey, the Cowboys, we're told
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  Speaker 7: every year they could be great.
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  Speaker 5: But maybe this is the year.
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  Speaker 3: I'm basing this on if you told me before this season, right,
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  Speaker 3: and what my reaction would be. So if you told
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  Speaker 3: me the Giants would be atop the NFC East, through
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  Speaker 3: seven weeks, I would have shrugged my shoulders.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, football, it happens. They got John Harbaugh.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that Jackson Tartt is getting hurt at
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  Speaker 3: that point, and so I shrugged my shoulders. If you
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  Speaker 3: tell me the Browns are 5-2, you're getting a serious reaction.
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  Speaker 3: If you tell me the Vikings are 6-0, it's a shrug,
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  Speaker 3: but also football, football happens.
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  Speaker 1: The Vikings are 6-0.
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  Speaker 3: If you told me before the season the Chargers– would
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  Speaker 3: be winless. And the last winless team in the NFL,
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  Speaker 3: I would have not believed you. And so that's how
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  Speaker 3: I'm basing my rankings.
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  Speaker 6: I would have assumed Justin Herbert got, got hurt in
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  Speaker 6: the preseason.
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  Speaker 1: He has a Jackson darts, been healthy and playing like
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  Speaker 1: a pro bowler.
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  Speaker 5: Okay. I think I agree with you, Stu. I think
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  Speaker 5: I agree with you.
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  Speaker 7: I think it's, I think the chargers are obviously the
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  Speaker 7: most surprising thing because This was a team that a
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  Speaker 7: lot of people were like, AFC title game, at least, possibly.
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  Speaker 5: The Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: And then, I mean, the Browns? The Browns have been
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  Speaker 5: a laughingstock for how long? And now you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: they're going to start the Sean Watson?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, they're tanking for somebody.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Yes. That's why I have the Chargers one and
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  Speaker 1: the Browns two. Those are shocking to me. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: I think I agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you do. Taylor, are you upset that he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't agree with you?
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  Speaker 6: No, because I think we agree for the most part
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  Speaker 6: on one and two. And then I think three and
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  Speaker 6: four is probably subjective at best.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Do we help you out there?
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  Speaker 3: It's all subjective.
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  Speaker 6: The Chargers not being number one, I will not agree
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  Speaker 6: with anybody on that list.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: That is the most shocking thing to happen this year
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  Speaker 3: so far in the NFL. What is the Hot Take
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  Speaker 3: Tuesday we have going on here? I am thrilled that
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  Speaker 3: we have Hot Take Tuesdays. I just had no idea
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  Speaker 3: we ever had a Hot Take Tuesday. What are you
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  Speaker 3: doing here, Taylor?
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  Speaker 5: So I have a Hot Take Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: That's why you have the fire music in the background.
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  Speaker 1: It's cooking. You feel a little toasty. You feel a
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  Speaker 1: little warm.
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  Speaker 5: It's getting warm in here.
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  Speaker 6: My Hot Take Tuesday.
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  Speaker 6: The worst team in the NFC North is the 6-0 Vikings.
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  Speaker 5: But you had that as the least surprising.
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  Speaker 1: Wait a second.
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  Speaker 3: Why did you point to Ricardo, who is controlling the
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  Speaker 3: buttons over there, because you wanted the flames to distinguish?
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  Speaker 1: What happened there?
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  Speaker 6: Yep, so once you say the take, the sound effect
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  Speaker 6: goes away.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, really? Wow.
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  Speaker 3: So you have the undefeated Minnesota Vikings as being the
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  Speaker 3: worst team in that division.
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  Speaker 1: I love the take. I am so proud of you.
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  Speaker 1: That is a next level.
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  Speaker 3: You're thinking differently than everyone else to say that the
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  Speaker 3: best team in the NFL undefeated is not the best
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  Speaker 3: team in that division.
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  Speaker 6: So if you look at the stats, the team that
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  Speaker 6: has scored the fewest touchdowns this season, no surprise, it's
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  Speaker 6: the L.A. Chargers, the 0-6 L.A. Chargers. They have scored
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  Speaker 6: nine touchdowns this season. 31st in terms of touchdowns is
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  Speaker 6: the 6-0 Minnesota Vikings.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, they're not good on offense.
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  Speaker 6: But they're second in the NFL in point differential, only
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  Speaker 6: behind the 49ers, where they're not scoring touchdowns. They're winning games.
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  Speaker 6: Their defense is playing great. But if you do ask
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  Speaker 6: me my level of confidence for each team in that
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  Speaker 6: division going forward, they are going to be the clear
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  Speaker 6: fourth team every time.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I would have the least amount of confidence. Mikey,
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  Speaker 1: do you agree with that?
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  Speaker 3: I would have the least amount of confidence in the
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  Speaker 3: Vikings of the four teams in that division.
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  Speaker 7: I absolutely agree with that. And I'm going to even
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  Speaker 7: throw another log on this fire.
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  Speaker 5: I think, yeah, please.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 7: I think it's very possible that the 6-0 Vikings could
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  Speaker 7: be 6-7.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 7: When we look at the standings seven, eight weeks from now.
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  Speaker 5: Their game's coming up at Detroit.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Easily they could lose that game.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Against the Bills.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Easily lose that game. At the Packers.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: Against the Niners.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. Home of the Falcons.
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  Speaker 5: Then they play the Falcons, Panthers, Patriots, Lions.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Those are all possible losses for this team.
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  Speaker 1: Why don't you just say it?
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  Speaker 3: Why don't you say, turn the flames back on and
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  Speaker 3: say the Vikings are going to be six and seven?
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  Speaker 7: Because I think they get one of those either.
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  Speaker 5: They're seven and six. All right.
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  Speaker 7: We're going to look back at this and we're going
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  Speaker 7: to remember when the Vikings were six and oh, they're
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  Speaker 7: going to be seven and six.
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  Speaker 1: All right. That's a hot take.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they're six and oh, right now you're saying
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  Speaker 3: they're going to go one and six over the next
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  Speaker 3: seven games, essentially.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: All right, should I try this out, this hot take thing?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, hot take Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: All right, give me the flames. What a ridiculous sound.
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  Speaker 1: I am going to– here's my hot take, guys. The L.A.
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  Speaker 3: Rams, for as much as we've questioned them and criticized
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  Speaker 3: them and we talked about them going undefeated before the
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  Speaker 3: season started, they got off to a shaky start, but
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  Speaker 3: they're going to get healthy at the right time, and
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  Speaker 3: the Rams– are going to make the playoffs, and the
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  Speaker 3: Rams will represent the NFC in.
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  Speaker 1: The Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: You got choked up about that?
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  Speaker 1: I did, yes. I'm still choking. Help me.
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  Speaker 5: No, let him drown.
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  Speaker 1: I'm better now. How about that for a hot take, though?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, come on.
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  Speaker 3: While there are tears coming out of my eyes, Because
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  Speaker 3: I am choking so hard. I'm choking again.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to call that, Taylor, I'm going to call
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  Speaker 5: that take lukewarm while he chokes. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 5: call it hot.
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  Speaker 6: The fact that he has them. So I agree, Mikey.
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  Speaker 6: That's where I was at with his take saying the
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  Speaker 6: Rams were going to make the playoffs. And then he
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  Speaker 6: upped the ante and said the Rams are going to
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  Speaker 6: be the NFC representative in the Super Bowl. That was
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  Speaker 6: a hot take.
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  Speaker 3: That's where I got you. I'm still tearing up here.
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  Speaker 3: I'm still choking. I have no idea what's going on.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I choked on a hot take Tuesday.
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  Speaker 3: I just ate. I got to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 3: And the turkey is stuck right in my throat.
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  Speaker 5: Dry turkey, huh?
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  Speaker 1: Triducan.
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  Speaker 6: On the topic of hot takes, one of our friends
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  Speaker 6: of the show, I have to, in the spirit of accountability,
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  Speaker 6: I have to call out one of the friends of
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  Speaker 6: the show because I think he was trying to give
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  Speaker 6: a hot take and it was maybe the most lukewarm
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  Speaker 6: take I've ever heard. Our friend of the show, John Jastrzemski, JJ.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: He was talking about the Giants beating the Texans, and
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  Speaker 6: his exact quote was, there's an argument to be made
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  Speaker 6: that this is the best win the Giants have had
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  Speaker 6: in the John Harbaugh era. They've had four wins to
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  Speaker 6: choose from.
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  Speaker 1: It's a good hot take though. And a hot take Tuesday.
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  Speaker 5: No, that's not, that's, that's, that's barely warm.
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  Speaker 6: What other wins do you have to choose from the
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  Speaker 6: win against the Cowboys week one?
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: That was a good win.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: The Texans win. They beat the Cardinals.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 6: And then they beat the Titans. And the Titans and
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  Speaker 6: the Cardinals games both basically came down to red zone stops,
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  Speaker 6: which I guess are good wins. But the Giants won
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  Speaker 6: as a 10-point underdog, a double-digit underdog. on the road
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  Speaker 6: against Houston when nobody gave them a chance with J.J.
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  Speaker 6: McCarthy starting, I don't really think there's an argument to
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  Speaker 6: be made that this is the best win the Giants
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  Speaker 6: have had. The John Harbaugh era makes it sound like
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  Speaker 6: John Harbaugh has been coaching the Giants for three decades.
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  Speaker 1: It's a dumb take, and I love J.J. We love
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  Speaker 1: all things J.J.
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  Speaker 3: Because they're only seven games into John Harbaugh coaching the
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  Speaker 3: New York Giants.
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  Speaker 1: He said the Texans. Is that what he's saying? That's
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  Speaker 1: the biggest win?
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  Speaker 6: There's an argument to be made that this win over
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  Speaker 6: the Texans is the best win the Giants have had
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  Speaker 6: in the John Harbaugh era.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so it's stupid to say the John Harbaugh era.
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  Speaker 3: You could say the last couple of years. But the
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  Speaker 3: Texans were coming off two victories. A lot of people
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  Speaker 3: thought they would be a Super Bowl contender headed into
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  Speaker 3: the season.
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  Speaker 1: They still might be. Who knows?
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  Speaker 3: But that was a big win. They get off to
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  Speaker 3: the 0-4 start. They win two straight. The Giants go
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  Speaker 3: on the road with J.J.
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  Speaker 1: McCarthy.
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  Speaker 3: And they get the W. I mean, that's a big win.
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  Speaker 3: It's the biggest win in the John Harbaugh era.
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  Speaker 6: So when I read, when I watched the video and
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  Speaker 6: I listened to the podcast and I read the headline,
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  Speaker 6: I thought initially he meant if you wanted to go
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  Speaker 6: for a hot take, you would say that was the
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  Speaker 6: best win John Harbaugh's ever had.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 6: Which would be a hot take because he's won a
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  Speaker 6: Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 5: That would be a hot take.
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  Speaker 6: He's gone to the playoffs. He's done this. He's done that.
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  Speaker 6: He's got a Hall of Fame resume.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 6: That would have been the hot take. Saying it was
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  Speaker 6: one of the best four wins since the season started
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  Speaker 6: is like, what were you going for?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you text him?
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  Speaker 5: A hot hand state. Like the little things.
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  Speaker 6: You use to keep your hands warm when it's cold.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I didn't text him.
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  Speaker 1: I felt bad.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if I have that relationship with JJ. Well,
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  Speaker 6: I guess we're going to find out if I have
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  Speaker 6: that relationship with JJ.
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  Speaker 3: You want me to text him right now and say
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  Speaker 3: Taylor thinks that was a ridiculous take?
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  Speaker 6: Say Taylor said you saying that was the best win
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  Speaker 6: in the Giants have had in the John Harbaugh era.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Was one of the most nonsensical things Taylor has ever heard.
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  Speaker 3: He said, I'm doing it right now.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to take me a second. You guys might
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  Speaker 1: have to fill.
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  Speaker 5: Okay. Well, while you're talking, can I get my hot take?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on. Taylor. Thanks.
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  Speaker 6: Make sure you make sure you use the word nonsensical Taylor.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me how you want me to phrase it before
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  Speaker 1: we get to Mike. Keep the flames up.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, big dog.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying big dog. Hey, JJ. Okay, JJ.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, JJ. Taylor said.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying hey, just JJ.
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  Speaker 6: JJ, Taylor said your take about that being the best
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  Speaker 6: win the Giants have had in the John Harbaugh era.
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  Speaker 2: Slow down.
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  Speaker 1: Said your take.
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  Speaker 6: About that being the best win.
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  Speaker 1: About that being the best win.
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  Speaker 6: The Giants have had in the John Harbaugh era.
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  Speaker 5: Yes. This is riveting, riveting podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I know it is. Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Is nonsensical.
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  Speaker 1: In the John Harbaugh. Okay, I got it. Keep going.
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  Speaker 1: I spelled John wrong. It's nonsensical. Yeah. Okay, let's see
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  Speaker 1: how he responds. This is great podcasting right here.
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  Speaker 5: He's got the flames crackling.
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  Speaker 1: Nonsensical. All right, hopefully I spelled everything right. I think
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  Speaker 1: I did. All right, text has been sent. We'll see
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  Speaker 1: how he responds.
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  Speaker 5: You're a coward.
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  Speaker 1: You know that? You really are.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, you would never say that if Yastrzemski was
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: on the podcast right now.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: Anyway, any more hot takes for anyone? I have the Rams.
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: I said it, guys.
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: Not just making it to the playoffs, but representing the
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: NFC in the Super Bowl.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: No one is saying that today. Nobody. Okay? Nobody.
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: I'm calling it lukewarm. I'm calling that a lukewarm.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: Since the flames are on and it's very hot in here,
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: what's going on with the Colts' fire sale?
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Let's go back to Mikey A. He has a hot take.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: Keep the flames roaring.
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: My hot take is this.
• 15:04
  Speaker 7: The four and three Baltimore Ravens are done not even
• 15:07
  Speaker 7: making the playoffs.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Wow. That's so hot.
• 15:11
  Speaker 6: It's not that hot. Watching them in that second half,
• 15:13
  Speaker 6: I think they might just be a bunch of losers.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm with Taylor on that. Wow.
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: We're calling the Rams being good. The Rams.
• 15:23
  Speaker 7: Doing what everybody said they were going to do before
• 15:25
  Speaker 7: the season, a hot take. But the Baltimore Ravens not
• 15:30
  Speaker 7: even making the playoffs. We're calling that not hot.
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: Okay. I guess I'll have to get back in the lab.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about a team that has a lot of
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: players injured, that got off to a bad start, that
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: has the 49ers and the Seahawks in their division, and
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: I'm saying they're still making it to the playoffs and
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: making it to the Super Bowl. I mean, that is
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: a good hot take, I feel like. You're upset at
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: us because your take wasn't nearly as hot?
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: If we were power ranking the hot takes, Mikey, you
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: would have come in third, very clearly. A distinct bronze
• 15:58
  Speaker 6: medal for you.
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: Well, okay.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: All right. Sorry, Mikey.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: I'll get back in the lab.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, the Ravens are four and three. They're in
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: a division.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Well, they are in a division in Mikey's defense with
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: the Browns and the Steelers, and everyone's waiting for those
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: two teams to fall.
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: Lamar should be coming back.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: Right, and everyone's waiting for those two teams to fall apart. Uh, it's, it's,
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: it's not scolding hot.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: It's decent. It's a decent take on a Tuesday. It is.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: You'd burn your hand. You'd burn your hand if you
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: touch that take.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, I would. Uh, Colts fire sale. What's happening? JJ
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: has not responded yet, by the way.
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: So the news from Adam Schefter is there's been a trade.
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: The Colts have agreed to send eight-time Pro Bowl guard
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: Quentin Nelson to the Seattle Seahawks per him and Ian Rappaport.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: Nelson is on an expiring contract, and the Colts are
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: opting to get back draft capital now before they can
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: lose him in free agency.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: Just a year removed from the Colts essentially going all
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: in because they had a good feeling about Daniel Jones.
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: To then have a fire sale a year later is
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: a pretty big disaster. It is so Colts.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: It really is. Why sign Daniel Jones to the big contract? Why? Why? J.J.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Has responded. His response, fair game. Had six or seven
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: to choose from. Still the best of the six or seven.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: How about that?
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: I mean, I'm just going to say that's a lukewarm
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: response to a lukewarm hot.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: There is nothing scalding hot. He had four wins to
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: choose from. He didn't have six or seven games. He
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: said that was the best win of the Harbaugh.
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: Is he counting preseason?
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what his other choices were.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: He said he chose. He thinks he chose the best
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: of the six or seven choices. He had available to him.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: I had no idea where he was doing this and
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: what the format was and what segment they were doing.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, what do you want from me?
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: That's the vanilla frozen yogurt of hot takes.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: I don't feel like any of us really gave a
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: great hot take.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I got to be honest with you. Except for Taylor.
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: No, I think they were all pretty good. They were
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: all pretty good.
• 18:15
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Matt Leinart is going to join us here coming up
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: in a few minutes. College football. It's interesting.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: It's an interesting time in college football. What do you
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: guys want to discuss with Matt Leiner? Because all I
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: want to do, because our guests seem to love the
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: game one table, and I just want to play the game.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: One table with Matt Leiner and not do anything else.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: Well, I want to talk about how big a disaster
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: the Oregon season has been so far because he's on
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: big noon kickoff and their connection with the Big Ten Conference.
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: where Oregon coach Dan Lanning announces that star quarterback Dante
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: Moore is not expected to play the rest of the season.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: And I feel like.
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: Leinart has pretty good experience as somebody who could have
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: came out of the draft and been a pretty high
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: draft pick, decides to go back to college. Now, it
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: was a different era back then where Dante Moore at
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: least had NIL to fall back on, but you would
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: assume Dante Moore was the consensus number two pick behind
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: Fernando Mendoza. And he turns away that deal where David
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: Bailey gets, you know, 50 plus million dollars from the
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: New York Jets for going two overall. Now it's like,
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: what is going to happen to Dante Moore this upcoming draft?
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: What do you guys think is going to happen to
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: Dante Moore? He's going to fall outside the first round,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: is he not?
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: You head into the season with Dante Moore and Arch
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Manning as the two quarterbacks everyone's looking at. And now
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: you have questions about whether either of them will be
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: selected in the first round.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Dante Moore is going back to college.
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: Whatever he has to do to go back to college
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: for another year, that's what he's going to do. Because
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: you don't go from the number two overall pick to
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: outside the first. round and go, yeah, that's what I'm
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: going to do. You go back to school.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: So he's going to find a judge.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: Close your eyes and imagine this.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Do I have to close them?
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: You don't have to.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: Theater of the mind.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll close them.
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: If you just tell them you closed them for the
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: podcast audience, the podcast audience would think that your eyes
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: were closed.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, they're closed though.
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: They stuck with us through a text message. They're going
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: to stick with us while you're trying to figure out
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: if you're going to close your eyes.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: So close your eyes and imagine this.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: We hope they stuck with us.
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: Next season, Malachi Toney's getting ready to run out of
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: the tunnel at Hard Rock Stadium for the preseason number
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: one Miami Hurricanes.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: And who's replacing Darian Mensah, who goes on to be
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: a first-round pick? Dante Moore.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, I could see it.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Actually, when I close my eyes, I open my eyes,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: I can't see it, but when I close my eyes,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: I could absolutely see him running out of the smoke.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I can.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I could see him running out of the smoke against
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: FAMU with 22,000 people in the stands, no one caring,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: no one cheering for him, and him wondering why he
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: came to Miami in the first place.
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: People will blame it on the fact that the stadium's
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: far away from campus and it's a late-arriving crowd and
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: the humidity in August, but we all know the real
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: reason why they're not there. Nobody cares about that team.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Can you see it, Mikey?
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: No, I can't see it.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: Not because I don't think they're going to do that.
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: It's just because I don't know why Dante Moore would
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: go there to back up Lenora Sellers.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: You have the Canes getting all the quarterbacks?
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: Well, I have them getting Lenora Sellers.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Which means no room for the Oregon quarterbacks. So if
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: you close your eyes, you see Lenora Sellers running out.
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: I see Lenora Sellers running out next to Malachi Toney.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: And coming from South Carolina, not that it's a bad
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: place to play football. The fans are into it. But
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Lenora Sellers, yes, I guess if I close my eyes,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: I can see him running out through the smoke against
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: FAMU with 22,000 people there, half of them there to
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: see the FAMU band.
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: Can I tell you guys what I'm done with when
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: it comes to college football? Because it is the equivalent
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: to the preseason in the NFL of everybody coming out
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: of the woodwork saying this is the Dallas Cowboys year.
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: The Dallas Cowboys will make it to the Super Bowl
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: and every year we fall for it. Because we're looking
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: at these experts, and they're like, these guys are experts.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: They must know what they're talking about. The college equivalent
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: of that is every year the NFL draft experts, the
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: guys that we love, and I'm not going to name names.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Field Yates.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: Don't you dare.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Leave him alone. What?
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: But every year, these draft guys come out and tell us,
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: this quarterback class is generational talent. This quarterback class is
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: the best quarterback class we've ever seen before. And it's like, yes,
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: we talk ourselves into Lenora Sellers and Arch Manning and
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: Dante Moore and Drew Mestemaker. And then every year we
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: are disappointed with the results. And then it feels like
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: we're picking out of a barrel to see who the
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: Jets or who the Raiders are going to reach for
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: at the top quarterback position where we're talking ourselves into
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: like Carson Beck.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I know, but things change as the season progresses.
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: But it's every year. It's every year this happens.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Well, it's been the last two years, and it's interesting
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: that you're picking on Field Yates and no one else.
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: I love Field Yates.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: That's why.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: Field Yates was the only one I felt comfortable picking on.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Right, but why not McShay? Why not Mel? I mean.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: Because I don't feel comfortable picking on him. Don't you
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: dare pick on Mel.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Well, that's my point, Mikey, but he feels comfortable, perfectly fine,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: picking on Field Yates.
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: Because I look at Field almost like an older brother.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Like, I would.
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: I would rib on my older brother. McShay, it's like,
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: McShay's like the cool kid at school where it's like,
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: I don't want to say anything.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: And Mel's like royalty.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: You have my word, Mel Kiper Jr. I will never
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: say a bad word about you ever. And I will
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: defend your honor forever.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: Damn right.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: You just criticized him without saying his name.
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: I wasn't talking about him.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: No, he wasn't talking about him. Everybody but him.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Just Field Yates. Matt Leinart, next. Matt Leiner with us
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: here on behalf of Abbott.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: He is teaming up with global health and blood screening
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: leader Abbott and the Big Ten Conference to tackle critical
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: blood shortages across the country for the third year of
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: the We Give Blood competition.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Matt, talk about it. Tell us what you're doing with Abbott.
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, this has been such an incredible partnership
• 24:19
  Speaker 8: with them.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: You know, just, you know, I lost my mom. um,
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: to cancer.
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: She had a rare blood disorder, so blood transfusions and
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: all of that. This was 10 years ago, but it
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: was just a big part of that process. So when
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: Abbott came to me and we kind of worked this out,
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: it just, it means so much to me to, so
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: to represent Abbott and what they're doing and the impact
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: that they're doing, it's incredible. So they teamed up with
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: the big 10 couple of years ago, started this kind of,
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: we give blood campaign competition to see who can donate
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: the most blood across all 18 big 10 schools. So it's,
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: it's created this fun, um, competition off the field. The
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: winner gets a million dollars to advance student health. So
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: there is a big incentive there that Abbott's been able
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: to do.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: And as you.
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: Guys said, we just have a big blood shortage here.
• 25:04
  Speaker 8: You know, every two seconds someone needs blood. One blood
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: donation can save up to three lives. And this year
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: we've had, I think, over 80,000 people in this campaign
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: have donated, which has saved up to 250,000 lives so far.
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: So when you really kind of crunch the numbers, it's
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: a massive, massive impact. So Um, big 10.org slash Abbott
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: is the website where people can go see how they
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: can get involved. You can go to the nearest blood
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: center near you or a blood drive. Um, you know,
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: you don't have to be in student or alumni or anything.
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: You can just be a normal person that wants to
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: give back. So, uh, it's been really cool to see
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: the growth of this, uh, you know, and it's, it's,
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: it's a fun competition to kind of get everybody involved.
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: So been, uh, been a huge part of, uh, the
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: big 10 last couple of years and, and always, uh,
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: grateful for, for my family over at Abbott.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: All right, that's a great job by you. We'll promote
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: it again on the way out here, Matt.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Thank you, guys, yeah.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: What do you make here? If I put you in charge,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: I know you love USC. I know you love the program.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: I kind of relate it to Miami here, where the fans,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: where if they're down for a couple of years, the
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: fans start to get upset. They try to do stuff.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: They try to make the team better, and certainly that's
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: happened down here. USC, one of the storied programs in
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: college football history. If I put Matt Leinart in charge
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: of USC, the czar of USC football... How would you
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: fix it, Matt?
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Man, I want nothing part of that. I want no
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: part of that job. I'll tell you that.
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: Look, it's it's again, it's it's it's it's obviously being
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: talked about here on the West Coast.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: And I would just say this to like people.
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: So many college football fans and programs have such a
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: false level of expectation.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: Like of where their program is and should be, because.
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: I say we, but we live in this world of
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: the past and all that. And if you really look
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: at USC, when I was there, it was, gosh, 05.
• 26:59
  Speaker 8: That's like 05 and a couple of years after that
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: with Pete Carroll, they were really good. That's really the
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: last time, if you think about it, USC has been
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: truly relevant in the national landscape of college football. You've
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: had a couple of years here and there. Clay Helton
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: had a great year. Lincoln was with Caleb. His first
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: year was I would say it was a hamstring away
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: from probably being in the playoff that year, right?
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: The first year.
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: But, but, but I do think like the, the expectations,
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: I even like Brady Quinn and I talk about Notre Dame,
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: Notre Dame has won a championship since 88, like genuinely
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: since 80. Now they've been in the playoff, they've been close.
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: But I think when we look at USC, like there's
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: this hope that we can get back there and, and
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: USC should be able to get back there because it
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: is USC. And, the recruiting hotbed here in Los Angeles,
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: and now the new football facility and their NIL is working.
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: They've got, they've got it going on over there. They're
• 27:52
  Speaker 8: in a good spot. And it just, just seems to,
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: to not be right.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: Like, like where I said this the other day, a
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: couple of weeks ago after the Oregon game, like, where
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: is the program going?
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: You want to feel like it's a setting losses are
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: going to happen, especially in the big 10, but you
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: want to feel like you're going on a trajectory upward and, and,
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: Part of it doesn't feel that way. Now, I would
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: say this. Again, this is the long answer to your question.
• 28:18
  Speaker 8: You have this incredible opportunity the next month to rewrite
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: history and the narrative.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: It's going to be hard.
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: Ohio State, Indiana, UCLA are three of your four next games.
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: And I don't know if USC can win all those.
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: They haven't proven they can win a game like that.
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: But for me, when I look at USC, we always
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: throw around this culture thing in, in sport.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: And I've been around some great locker rooms and some
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: great culture places and what my culture is like the work,
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: the every day to try and get better.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: The competitive spirit, like all those things. That's what Pete preached, right?
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: That was Pete Carroll was his, that was his secret sauce,
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: his magic wand, I always say. Um, and I don't,
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: I don't link in my hat. Like I'm not in
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: that locker room. I don't know. And the guys play
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: hard and all that kind of stuff. But That's where
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: I would start. And there needs to be a level
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: of toughness around a program. And I'm not saying they're
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: not tough at all that, but that's just for me personally.
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  Speaker 8: You want to feel like I look at the Bob
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  Speaker 8: Chesney kind of the video that went viral. Remember when
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: he was like, they're going to row the boat up
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: the string, whatever it was against Oregon.
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  Speaker 4: Like that fired me up, man. Like that was just like.
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  Speaker 8: Damn, like I want, like I get goosebumps thinking about
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: it and I have no, you know, like I have
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: no affiliation with UCLA.
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  Speaker 4: Like they're a good team. He's a hell of a coach.
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  Speaker 8: Like there's a toughness there that you can just feel.
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  Speaker 8: And the team plays that way.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: So that's for me. Like, I love USC. I love
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  Speaker 4: these kids.
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  Speaker 8: They play hard. Still think they're a very good football team.
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  Speaker 8: But that's just one of those things for me. Like,
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: that's just all I know from playing there, you know?
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: Matt, the news of the day in college football was
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: Oregon's Dan Lanning announcing that their star quarterback, Dante Moore,
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: not expected to play the rest of the season. How
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: would you evaluate his draft stock headed into the spring?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, look, I would say this right now.
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  Speaker 8: I think he should come back to school, and I
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: would have said that last year. And this day, it's
• 30:15
  Speaker 8: such an interesting time being a quarterback because, you know, like,
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: and again, at the end of the day, like all
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: of these kids, like this was supposed to be this
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: incredible quarterback class that's coming out. And you've seen a
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: lot of struggles. You've seen Arch struggle at times. You've
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: seen Sam Levitt struggle, although he's playing a lot better recently.
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: Dante Moore, even before the injury, he's struggling a little bit.
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: And then you got guys like Drew Mestemaker. It always
• 30:41
  Speaker 8: happens every year. We get enamored with all these guys
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: and some take a step back, some take a step forward.
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: This day and age in college football where these quarterbacks
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: are making a minimum $ 3 million a year, like a
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: minimum at a smaller school and a maximum maybe seven
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: or eight. I just like– and you're not like that
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  Speaker 8: surefire number one guy.
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  Speaker 4: I watch a lot of film on all these guys.
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  Speaker 8: I just don't know why you wouldn't stay in school
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: and maximize your opportunity, one, financially because that's just the
• 31:14
  Speaker 8: world we live in, and two– just to continue to
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: get better and work on your game. Cause I don't
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: really look at all of these guys. I don't see
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: a clear cut. Number one, in my opinion, I see
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: a lot of good players. I think Chambliss is a
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: hell of a player. I think he's got a shot.
• 31:27
  Speaker 8: I think Messamaker is a hell of a player, but like,
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: I think they can all benefit from coming back if
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: they have an extra year. That's just my opinion. So
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: I think Dante should come back. Um, obviously I want
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: him to be healthy. He's a great kid and get
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: better and all those things. But I just think, man,
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: I think he could benefit from another year of, of
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: just playing football, the reps, the experience, And all that.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about your decision that you had to make.
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  Speaker 3: If there was money attached to it, man, that would
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: have been a lot easier.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: It would have been a lot of money.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Can you imagine?
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it is.
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: It's like, if you're making, say, $ 4 million a year
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: at 20 years old and you have a year or
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: two left, like, unless, like, I just, like, it would
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: make you pause and be like, all right, unless I'm
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: going to be the top five pick, because that's also
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: life-changing money and all that. But you're also going to
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: a terrible NFL organization for the most part. Like it's hard,
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: like it's hard to win in the NFL as a
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: young quarterback and you get thrown. There's just so many
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: things now that like, yes, just take a pause, man.
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: And like maximize your, your potential, maximize the money you
• 32:28
  Speaker 8: can make. Cause the NFL, that's what, when I came
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: back for school, I was like, I know the NFL
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: was going to be there in a year from now.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: I needed to get better.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 32:35
  Speaker 8: Like I needed to physically get better and I wanted
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: to stay in school. Obviously there's just different incentive now.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: All right, we have a game for you. It will
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: be quick.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: We'll talk about Abbott again on the way out. Very
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: quick game here.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Give me the imaging.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: There's one table left at the hottest spot in town,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: and everybody wants it. Who's getting it, and who's getting
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: left outside? Greatness gets seated. Everyone else waits. This is
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: One Table.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: All right, so it's Leinert Steakhouse, Southern California. You have
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: one table, one chair remaining, two guys walk in at
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: the same time. You determine who gets that table.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Bruce Matthews, Anthony Munoz. He likes it.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: That's good.
• 33:25
  Speaker 8: The big boys. Listen, I love both of them. I
• 33:31
  Speaker 8: love both of them. I know them both extremely well.
• 33:33
  Speaker 8: I would say that I'll stay Anthony Munoz only because.
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: He is one of the great and that's not because
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: of Bruce, because I love Bruce, too. I was actually
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: with Bruce in Houston, which.
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: Is kind of crazy.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: He was helping coach there.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: Anthony Munoz is one of the greatest people I've ever met.
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: He's one of the nicest human beings, let alone maybe
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: a top 10 football player of all time.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: So I'll go.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: I'll go with my big boy, Anthony.
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: Plus, just having him near me, he's a monster of
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: a human being.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: He'll protect you, yes.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: I love that you guys are giving the old linemen
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: some love.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: That's good.
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: So, Matt, now Marcus Allen walks in. Caleb Williams walks in.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Who gets the table? Wow, wow, wow.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: I got to go Marcus, man. I got to go history.
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: I got to go– Yeah, Marcus is another one of those, man.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: I just feel like I could pick his brain for
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: hours about football. And I have. I mean, I love
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Marcus really well.
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: So fun fact here, boys, before we go, I'm on
• 34:33
  Speaker 8: a group chat with Marcus, Bruce, Anthony, gosh, like 10
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: of the– like Ronnie.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: God, who else? Who else?
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: Some of the USC guys, like, we're on this 10
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: to 15, Carson, like, this 10 to 15. Like, it's all, like,
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: a lot of Heisman guys and, like, some of the best.
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: And I'm like, why am I even on this? It's
• 34:55
  Speaker 8: crazy with some of these guys.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: And we just, we talk every week about USC. It's hilarious.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I know, but you're Matt Bleep and Leinart.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, what do you mean, why are you on it?
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: No, I know, but it's just funny because I look
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: at these guys like Marcus Ahan, Anthony Munoz, like Ronnie Lott.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: Like, are you talking about the greatest to ever do it?
• 35:10
  Speaker 8: But we have a fun group chat every weekend that
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: gets fired up, as you can imagine.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: All right, last one quickly since you mentioned them. Troy Palamalu,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Ronnie Lott. Who gets the table?
• 35:20
  Speaker 8: I would say Ronnie Lott only because I played with
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: Troy for a couple years.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: I've known Troy forever. Ronnie, to me, is.
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: one of the greatest, if not the greatest defensive player
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: to ever play, probably outside of maybe like Lawrence Taylor.
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: You had a couple of those guys, but Ronnie Lott is, um,
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: and again, I, I not just saying this, like he
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: was a big fixture in our locker room when I
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: was there, Ronnie was, he is one of the greatest
• 35:43
  Speaker 8: human beings on this planet, man. Like, and, and I just,
• 35:45
  Speaker 8: he just, he shows me so much love when I
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: see him and all that. So, uh, Troy is also
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: like the nicest human of all time, but Ronnie would
• 35:53
  Speaker 8: be cool.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Just again, the history, man. I just love the history
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: of the game.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: We love having you around here. I can't have you
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: on enough. I'd like to do it more. I'd like
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: to have you on longer, but on the way out here,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: promote again what it is you're doing with Abbott.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: It's great work.
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah, BigTen.org slash Abbott is where you can go. Abbott
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: and the Big Ten have teamed up with the We
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: Give Blood competition trying to get the most donations across
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: all the Big Ten schools. We have a shortage. We
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: need younger generation to step up. 80,000 people plus have
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: already donated within this uh, campaign and competition you have
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: till December 4th is when this all kind of closes.
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: So still about five or six weeks to donate, give blood.
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: There's tons of people out there that need it and
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: it will save lives.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: So appreciate you boys for having me on.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Yup.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Next time we have you on, we'll just play one
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: table and promote Abbott and that's it.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Okay. That's it. That's all we'll do. Awesome, man. All right.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Matt. We appreciate it. Keep up the great work, man.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: Appreciate it.