Latest / Daily Influence / 699. Pause, Reset, Lead: The Science Behind Sustainable Influence
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- 0:10[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to Daily Influence, your daily dose of positive influence.
- 0:14[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Brian Smith founder of IA Business Advisors and co-author of the Iain team series.
- 0:19[SPEAKER_00]: Each day we share stories and insights to help you find be and build your influence in a positive and responsible way.
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- 0:48[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to Daily Influence.
- 0:50[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Greg Clino.
- 0:51[SPEAKER_02]: Today's guest brings a powerful and compassionate perspective to leadership and influence, one rooted in science, humanity, and how our bodies quietly shaped the way we show up every day.
- 1:03[SPEAKER_02]: Dr. Marie Lizzy, the founder of Ligley Holistic Health and a physician who helps individuals and leaders understand how stress, energy, and physiology
- 1:17[SPEAKER_02]: decision-making and follow-through, especially during demanding seasons of life and work.
- 1:23[SPEAKER_02]: Marie's work reframes burnout and low energy, not as personal shortcomings, but as predictable signals from the body under sustained pressure.
- 1:32[SPEAKER_02]: By translating complex physiology into practical, accessible insight, she helps people reduce self-blame, build supportive systems and create steadier energy so they can leave, relate, and influence others more positively.
- 1:48[SPEAKER_02]: Marie, welcome to Daily Influence.
- 1:51[SPEAKER_02]: We're so glad to have you here.
- 1:53[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much for having me here today.
- 1:55[SPEAKER_02]: Marie, could you share a bit about your background and what led you to where you are today with our listeners?
- 2:00[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
- 2:00[SPEAKER_01]: So I grew up in a small town in New Jersey and I was one of the unlucky ones if you will, who was told that, no, you can't go to college and just have a major.
- 2:12[SPEAKER_01]: You have to know what you're doing right now.
- 2:13[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, okay, well, I'll be a doctor and I never looks back.
- 2:25[SPEAKER_01]: had a year between college and medical school became a doctor and then in 2017 graduated from medical school.
- 2:34[SPEAKER_01]: And here we are today.
- 2:35[SPEAKER_02]: That's amazing.
- 2:36[SPEAKER_02]: Congratulations on that.
- 2:38[SPEAKER_02]: And one of the foundational ideas in the IN team series is that influence begins with understanding ourselves before it ever reaches others.
- 2:48[SPEAKER_02]: From your physicians perspective,
- 2:51[SPEAKER_02]: How do stress and energy levels influence how people show up as leaders, teammates and humans and what happens when those signals are ignored?
- 3:00[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a great question.
- 3:01[SPEAKER_01]: When people have stress and energy levels that are low and they're ignoring themselves, they are not able to show up fully as leader.
- 3:12[SPEAKER_01]: So signals that may occur that people are having.
- 3:16[SPEAKER_01]: increased stress, low energy, and then that bleeding over into their leadership, their interactions with others, their family and their careers, is going to be just fatigue, decreased patients.
- 3:31[SPEAKER_01]: irritability about things that normally shouldn't bother you or you should be able to brush off simply.
- 3:38[SPEAKER_01]: Those are things that are just going to be your cues that, hey, maybe my body is trying to tell me something.
- 3:45[SPEAKER_02]: What do you recommend when someone's body is trying to tell them something like that?
- 3:50[SPEAKER_01]: I recommend the first thing that they do is that they pause and they ask themselves if they can't in the situation they pause and they say, okay, what was really going on there and why am I so angry upset irritated whatever the specific emotion is and that gives people a moment to really tease out, was it the situation itself or is there something deeper that's bothering them?
- 4:19[SPEAKER_01]: did you not sleep that night?
- 4:21[SPEAKER_01]: Are you just hungry?
- 4:22[SPEAKER_01]: Is there stress between you and your spouse at home that you can't show up fully to this situation?
- 4:32[SPEAKER_01]: So I really have people pause and reflect either immediately following or later in the day to really just assess that situation and look a little bit deeper.
- 4:42[SPEAKER_02]: That's great advice.
- 4:43[SPEAKER_02]: And responsible influence isn't about pushing harder.
- 4:47[SPEAKER_02]: It's about recognizing when something deeper is asking for attention.
- 4:52[SPEAKER_02]: Can you tell us about a moment or experience where you felt you made a positive impact on someone's life, particularly by helping them reframe stress or self-blame?
- 5:01[SPEAKER_02]: And what that moment reinforced for you about compassionate leadership?
- 5:07[SPEAKER_01]: The, the best example that comes to mind is you have a patient and this individual is a high achiever and she works in health care as well and has spent so long trying to lose weight, do it, quotes all on her own and she's just achieved a lot because we've shared a lot.
- 5:27[SPEAKER_01]: So she's a really successful person and we
- 5:32[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a struggle for us to get her to her goals and we've been working on it together.
- 5:36[SPEAKER_01]: And in a recent interaction, she felt bullied by another healthcare provider to take medication that she wasn't so sure about.
- 5:47[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, hey, you know, they use the the fat word, the effort.
- 5:51[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, you need this.
- 5:52[SPEAKER_01]: This is why you're having all of these problems.
- 5:55[SPEAKER_01]: And I was blown away and was like, take this.
- 5:58[SPEAKER_01]: So she's like, well, I don't trust you.
- 6:00[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna go back to my doctor and I'm gonna see what she says.
- 6:04[SPEAKER_01]: And I really just laid out for this person, the benefits of what the other doctor recommended because I found a lot of value in it, but I also talked to her about the risks.
- 6:17[SPEAKER_01]: And when we got to the bottom of that conversation, she still was not sure what she wanted to do.
- 6:24[SPEAKER_01]: And in that situation, I think whether it's in medicine for me or for other people, it's in your career, you have somebody else who doesn't know what to do and you've given them options.
- 6:36[SPEAKER_01]: The best thing that you can do is to take a step back and give people time and space to reflect.
- 6:43[SPEAKER_01]: Meaning knowing that this patient is has a very strong religious background and relationship with God I told her to take the the question itself to him and I said hey, you go pray on this come back to me in two weeks
- 6:59[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll talk about it again, and she recently followed up, and she was like, you changed my life.
- 7:06[SPEAKER_01]: No one has ever, no doctor has ever told me to go pray on a healthcare decision.
- 7:12[SPEAKER_01]: And I just want you to know that what you're doing makes a difference, and too.
- 7:17[SPEAKER_01]: keep doing this.
- 7:19[SPEAKER_02]: That's amazing.
- 7:20[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for sharing that story and, you know, that shift from judgment to understanding is something that we emphasize often in the I&T, especially when it comes to how individuals and teams function.
- 7:34[SPEAKER_02]: And many leaders assume burnout or inconsistent follow-through
- 7:45[SPEAKER_02]: change the way leaders support themselves and others more responsibly.
- 7:50[SPEAKER_01]: When you understand how your body is actually working as a leader, you can put systems into place that support it and keep you from burning out, but also have systems in place to know what to do when you do.
- 8:08[SPEAKER_01]: Because if you're a leader at a high level company and you are always on,
- 8:15[SPEAKER_01]: I hate to say that burnout is inevitable, but it is at some point.
- 8:19[SPEAKER_01]: So you then also have to have those systems there to say, when I get there, what next?
- 8:26[SPEAKER_01]: What now?
- 8:26[SPEAKER_01]: And understanding how your body works is what's going to help you put those systems into place.
- 8:34[SPEAKER_02]: Can you give us an example or any tricks that you would recommend?
- 8:38[SPEAKER_01]: absolutely.
- 8:39[SPEAKER_01]: So one of the things that I have people do is giving themselves the pause and the the pause can happen multiple times a day and it's really simple.
- 8:52[SPEAKER_01]: You give yourself one to two minutes if that is all you have and you pause when you're making transitions between phases of your day.
- 9:04[SPEAKER_01]: Giving yourself a minute with your car turned off before you transition into work because if your commute is very stressful like it is in northern Virginia, you are going to show up to work a different person than when you left your house that morning and then
- 9:19[SPEAKER_01]: you allow your body to reset, you allow your energy to come back level and you can do the same thing throughout your day.
- 9:26[SPEAKER_01]: So you have a really stressful meeting and you have something else to go into that's equally important and meeting your energy, you pause, you're give yourself a minute, you take some deep breaths so you can re-center your body, you can bring your stress levels down and show up fully for the next situation.
- 9:45[SPEAKER_02]: That's really great advice and can be used in any type of situation that would arise.
- 9:52[SPEAKER_01]: Sure can.
- 9:53[SPEAKER_02]: And anywhere you are looking back many of us wish we'd known sooner what our bodies were trying to tell us.
- 10:00[SPEAKER_02]: If you could go back and offer advice to your younger self, what would you share and how might that insight help listeners who are earlier in their leadership or life journey today?
- 10:10[SPEAKER_01]: I would tell them to trust themselves and to stop looking for external validation.
- 10:16[SPEAKER_01]: When you are able to trust that what you're doing is right and you stop looking outside, you are able to make an even bigger impact.
- 10:28[SPEAKER_01]: I think really for all of us until we have that hindsight, we can't see the impact that we're actually having until later on.
- 10:38[SPEAKER_01]: I would absolutely tell myself just to trust that what I'm doing is right and that even though that validation isn't there, just to keep going.
- 10:48[SPEAKER_02]: That's great advice.
- 10:49[SPEAKER_02]: One of the strongest messages in the INT series is that sustainable influences built through small and tensional choices, whatever a few simple practical ways people can build,
- 11:08[SPEAKER_01]: There's a few simple things that I have all of my patients and clients do so they can they can show up better the first is going to be sleep sleep is
- 11:18[SPEAKER_01]: not a luxury and finding a way to carve out that seven to eight hours is essential.
- 11:27[SPEAKER_01]: So if at your foundation you're not sleeping well, figuring out why and making sure you have the time and set everything else in your life so you can sleep because so many functions of our body
- 11:44[SPEAKER_01]: The next thing that I would say is make sure you're fueling your body appropriately.
- 11:49[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't know how, work with somebody, so you know what does your body actually need, so that you have that energy, you can sustain it throughout the day and to show up fully for other people.
- 12:03[SPEAKER_01]: And then I think we'll talk about the physical body a lot, but I would also say the
- 12:09[SPEAKER_01]: Our mental and spiritual body is equally as important, so making sure that your mind is in a good place, checking in with yourself, how do I feel today, what is going on in my body, if you do have a spiritual practice, asking yourself, is this something that I have been prioritizing or neglecting and making sure that all facets are addressed.
- 12:38[SPEAKER_02]: That's all really good advice.
- 12:39[SPEAKER_02]: I'd like to go to the a quite ask a follow question on the sleep.
- 12:44[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have any advice on how to get a good night sleep.
- 12:49[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
- 12:50[SPEAKER_01]: So getting a good night sleep starts at noon.
- 12:54[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a person who loves your coffee like I do, you need to know if you're sensitive to caffeine or not, because it's going to stay in your body so much longer.
- 13:05[SPEAKER_01]: So you probably around noon need to have a cut off time for your caffeine.
- 13:09[SPEAKER_01]: The second thing you're going to want to do is you're going to want to limit your screen time in the evenings that blue light is going to interfere with your melatonin production that sleepy chemical that we all make so that is something that's also important I don't know the data isn't that great on like the cool blue light block our glasses.
- 13:30[SPEAKER_01]: So I tell people just screens generally later in the evening aren't good because it also
- 13:37[SPEAKER_01]: keeps our minds going and moving.
- 13:39[SPEAKER_01]: The next thing is going to be not eating meals right before bed.
- 13:46[SPEAKER_01]: If your body is actively digesting food, it's really hard for it to rest at the same time.
- 13:52[SPEAKER_01]: And then the two final things are going to be giving yourself a cool place to sleep.
- 13:59[SPEAKER_01]: Our body is able to fall asleep better when the room is a little bit cooler.
- 14:04[SPEAKER_01]: And then the last thing, this one can be really hard, especially depending on your schedule and then through the winter, it's near impossible for a lot of us, but if you can get bright sunlight in your eyes first thing in the morning, that's going to help reset your internal clock, that's circadian rhythm, so that your body knows, okay, this is morning.
- 14:26[SPEAKER_01]: I'm actually going to stop making my melatonin and you reset that clock for it.
- 14:31[SPEAKER_01]: So it's ready for sleep in the evening time.
- 14:33[SPEAKER_01]: How much sunlight should one get in the morning?
- 14:36[SPEAKER_01]: 10 minutes of sunlight is enough for that to have the effect on your body.
- 14:42[SPEAKER_02]: And what if it's a cloudy day?
- 14:43[SPEAKER_01]: On a cloudy day, usually 20 to 30 minutes is going to be more so what you need to get that sunlight.
- 14:49[SPEAKER_02]: How long after you wake up should you get that light in your eyes?
- 14:53[SPEAKER_01]: Ideally, as soon as you can, but if you're like a lot of us who are up before this sun is up, then
- 15:01[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to be able to get sunlight in your eyes at five o'clock.
- 15:04[SPEAKER_01]: So as soon as you can get it in is always going to be more ideal something that I recommend is if you can get up and move your body first thing with that sunlight a simple 10 minute walk is going to do wonders for your day and for your sleep that night.
- 15:21[SPEAKER_02]: Great, thank you for sharing that.
- 15:23[SPEAKER_02]: You know, as we wrap up, what message or words of encouragement, would you like to share with our listeners who aspire to make a positive difference in the world, especially those who may be feeling stretched or tired or unsure right now.
- 15:38[SPEAKER_01]: The positive message I would want to tell you, people is to know that taking care of your body is not a luxury and not to feel guilty for putting your needs first because we cannot take care of other people and make a positive difference in the world if we are not whole.
- 15:58[SPEAKER_01]: So giving your body what it needs, taking care of yourself, is the first step to continuing to spread
- 16:08[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Marie, for sharing your wisdom, your compassion, and your grounded perspective with us today.
- 16:14[SPEAKER_02]: Your work is a powerful reminder that influence starts with understanding not just of others, but of ourselves and our bodies.
- 16:22[SPEAKER_02]: If our listeners would want to get in touch with you, what is the best way to do so?
- 16:27[SPEAKER_01]: The best way to get in contact with me is going to be on Instagram.
- 16:30[SPEAKER_01]: It's doctor.mlythc and I answer all my DMs myself.
- 16:35[SPEAKER_01]: So just shoot me a message and I look forward
- 16:39[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much.
- 16:40[SPEAKER_02]: We'll put that information in the show notes.
- 16:42[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm so grateful for you sharing your advice and your stories with us today on daily influence.
- 16:48[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much for having me.
- 16:50[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate it so much.
- 16:52[SPEAKER_02]: into our listeners.
- 16:53[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for tuning into daily influence.
- 16:55[SPEAKER_02]: I hope today's conversation brought you inside an inspiration.
- 16:59[SPEAKER_02]: If it's spoke to you, share with someone who could use a little positivity today.
- 17:02[SPEAKER_02]: Today's conversation is an invitation to listen more closely to your energy, your body, and the signals guiding you towards a more sustainable way of leading and living because positive influence doesn't come from doing more.
- 17:18[SPEAKER_02]: It comes from showing up.
- 17:19[SPEAKER_02]: Remember small actions create the impact, keep showing up, leading and growing one day to time.
- 17:25[SPEAKER_02]: Until next time, stay inspired and keep having a positive, responsible influence.
- 17:30[SPEAKER_02]: Bye.