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Building Women’s Health with Cedar Bear Naturals · Healthy Happy Wise Wealthy

• Mary Meyer [0:00]: Hi, everybody. Welcome back to Healthy, Happy, Wise, Wealthy. I have with us today Jhoane Robinson of Cedar Bear Naturals, which is, um, an herbal website that is extensive. Mary Meyer [0:14]: I have been looking at it, and I can't wait to talk to you a little bit more about that- ... Jhoane. So I wanna read, uh, Jhoane's, intro bio. She said I could, a little bit from LinkedIn, 'cause she... You are, you are s- have so much of a background. So 25 years researching, writing, and teaching on natural health, herbalism, organic gardening, uh, and you love inspiring others to live healthy. Mary Meyer [0:39]: Um, your husband and you founded Cedar Bear Naturals for the purpose of helping to build a healthier world with core values of integrity, innovation, inclusiveness, and being impassioned. And, um, you have a Facebook page that goes into organic gardening. Uh, and you're, you have Cedar Bear Herb Farm, which is in northeastern Utah. Mary Meyer [0:59]: And you live there with your pets and, um, friends and have ongoing, things that you do, I'm sure, just nonstop. Horses. You've also been a professional actress, singer, voice talent, member of the Utah Storytellers Guild, uh, a writer of poetry, prose, yoga, meditation - ... uh, herbal. Mary Meyer [1:21]: And, like, it just, like, it goes on and on and on. So beautiful. I'm like, "Aah, there's so much to talk about." Um, and Jhoane, I do, I do wanna say also we have a podcast sponsor. It's Mindiii, M-I-N-D-I-I-I, and they are an IT company that just does, full stack, the whole thing. Got about 50 people, in India working on all the stuff. Mary Meyer [1:44]: So- Mary Meyer [1:45]: ... anything that people need, they have answers. So Jhoane, you live in Utah. I read on Cedar, Cedar Bear is the main website, and that's the- Mary Meyer [1:59]: ... main place people can go to find out more about you. Um, so how... Y- you've been in, you've been involved in herbalism, okay, so for, for a long time, yes? Jhoane Robinson [2:11]: Yes. Yes. I actually, I stumbled on it, having come from a, um, a background, grew up in Seattle. My mother's side of the family is a very large business family, founded some very large businesses. My father was a doctor. So- Mary Meyer [2:31]: Okay Jhoane Robinson [2:31]: ... herbal was not part of my upbringing. Then I've met and married an herbalist. And, uh, and not just anyone. He was, uh, Carl was amazing, the brain, ev- the, the things that he packs in his brain, um, because he set about to create a new and different way to take na- nature's herbs, plants, and put it into a totally alcohol-free liquid that tastes good, is effective, um, lasts for decades. Jhoane Robinson [3:08]: Um, and it never been done before, and everyone said it was impossible. So he had created this process. He was very gifted as a formulator, as in phytopharmacology and phytopharmacognosy, so trained in that. And so as we started our journey together and blended our families, we both had kids, um, it culminated in Cedar Bear Naturals to be able to take this and this incredible work to, to the world. Jhoane Robinson [3:45]: Something that had been said was impossible to do, we did it. Mary Meyer [3:50]: That's amazing. Uh, and I- you have more information on your website, which is cedar bear, cedarbear.com, right? Mary Meyer [3:58]: Cedar, no S. Uh, it, so there's an extensive amount of, of stuff that you can look at, and it, it does sound like you guys even have, uh, a handout stretched to doctors or anyone who would wanna incorporate this into their practice. Um, is that accurate? Yeah. Jhoane Robinson [4:17]: We have a practitioner line, um, or program for those that are i- in natural health or any, any aspect that want to do their own formulating work in clinic with our single herbs. So they can, they can blend them and work them together. Jhoane Robinson [4:39]: Um, so yeah. Mary Meyer [4:41]: Yeah. I, well, I do en- enjoy that. So I have, uh, had a lot of doctors on. Um, many of them are kind of going, uh, incorporating a new natural, uh, way also of helping patients- Mary Meyer [4:56]: ... in addition to, um, whatever the other training, of course, they've had to be a doctor. So I think that is a nice wave, and we need it. Uh- Jhoane Robinson [5:06]: Yeah Mary Meyer [5:06]: ... so I als- yeah, I also had, um... You have more children than me, as you're blended, but I have seven ch- I have s- have seven children. Jhoane Robinson [5:14]: Hey. Mary Meyer [5:14]: They're grown. So, uh, I read something in your, in your bio where you said, you know, that was, like, when you guys had 11 total together, blended. Mary Meyer [5:26]: You, you almost don't... I love how you just, like, don't just offer that up. It's pretty, pretty overwhelming. I don't offer up that I have seven children also very often, so, but- Jhoane Robinson [5:37]: Yeah Mary Meyer [5:37]: ... uh, I, I know when I was like... You said something about we're gonna, like, you know, these herbal remedies you used on, with kids and to keep them healthy. Mary Meyer [5:48]: Yeah. So I, I know I did that too. I'm like, "There's just no way I can be y- driving all these kids to, to the doctor to try to..." Jhoane Robinson [5:56]: Yeah. Mary Meyer [5:56]: Or having them sick all the time. Like, being sick is not gonna be an option, 'cause life is not going to move forward with this many people in the household if people are always sick. Mary Meyer [6:09]: I do think there's something about that where you're like, "Don't have time for it. There's too many people. Mary Meyer [6:15]: We gotta figure out a way to be healthy." Uh, Jhoane Robinson [6:17]: Exactly. Mary Meyer [6:18]: Yeah Jhoane Robinson [6:19]: And no better way than, than reaching out to, to nature. And the thing that's, that's so different and amazing about plant medicine when it's done right is that in our diets we're ha- having trouble staying healthy because there's so little nutrition in our foods now. Jhoane Robinson [6:42]: The micronutrients and the trace minerals our bodies are starved for and have to have, and that is part of the amazingness of the process, the Cedar Bear process, is that it preserves and even augments those micronutrients that come- Jhoane Robinson [7:00]: ... from plants. Mary Meyer [7:01]: Oh, that's very interesting. Jhoane Robinson [7:03]: Mm-hmm. Mary Meyer [7:03]: So these things actually help your body absorb more nutrients that are there. Jhoane Robinson [7:07]: Mm-hmm. That's right. Mary Meyer [7:08]: Wow. Jhoane Robinson [7:08]: It does. Mary Meyer [7:08]: That's very interesting. Um, th- 'cause it's tinctures, right? So you put it under your tongue. Is that kind of the stuff y- Jhoane Robinson [7:15]: Yeah Mary Meyer [7:16]: ... in your... Tell me about that. Jhoane Robinson [7:17]: Tincture generally means an alcohol-based liquid herbal, um, preparation. Mary Meyer [7:23]: Okay. Jhoane Robinson [7:23]: We do 100% alcohol-free, so it's really more of an extract, but we use a multiple step process, you know, week. So he invented the word for it because there was no category, as tinctract. Mary Meyer [7:35]: Okay. Jhoane Robinson [7:35]: So what we make is Um, but they are internal use, and for full potency for those that are direct, um, action, uh, you can take them straight from the dropper. They could... the, the dropper because they taste so good or put 'em in a little water. But you can also... Jhoane Robinson [7:54]: And a lot of them work just wonderfully. They taste so good. You can put 'em in your tea, in your morning coffee, in your smoothie, in your protein shake. Um, put it on your, uh, on your food. And so if you- Mary Meyer [8:09]: Yeah Jhoane Robinson [8:09]: ... have trouble getting it into a kid, there's all kinds of ways to do it. Or yourself because not only little ones don't like... And that's why the first product line Carl developed was for children because, well, we had kids. Jhoane Robinson [8:24]: But, um, kids can't s- little ones can't swallow pills, won't do yucky, and this was a phenomenal answer because it tastes good and it's liquid. But liquid absorbs into the body immediately when it goes into the mouth. Mary Meyer [8:42]: Yeah. Jhoane Robinson [8:42]: And, uh, adults are no different. We don't want yucky, and who wants to be gobbling, you know, the swallowing down pills. And then all the other ways to try to get things into us, like the craze, current craze with gummies. How healthy is that really? Not as much as people would like to think. Mary Meyer [9:05]: No. No. It just, it is very dis- discouraging that the things that are labeled as, as this is good for your health- Jhoane Robinson [9:13]: Ugh Mary Meyer [9:13]: ... it's just, it's complete trash. Jhoane Robinson [9:15]: Ugh. Mary Meyer [9:15]: I mean, like complete- ... complete trash. If you look at the back- Mary Meyer [9:19]: ... you're like, "Ugh, I'm sur- I, uh..." Yeah, it's just, it seems like it's everywhere I turn, and- Jhoane Robinson [9:26]: Yeah. Yeah Mary Meyer [9:26]: ... it is, it is what it is. But so when you, um, when you say al- no alcohol, why would alcohol... 'Cause... And in my mind I'm thinking, so people are gonna say, "I've tried natural and it doesn't work for me." So they've used maybe something that is not very well formulated or has- Mary Meyer [9:48]: ... something like alcohol. But specifically with alcohol, why do you not use alcohol in it? Jhoane Robinson [9:55]: It's like, let's see, the list is about 20 different, uh, um, points long, but the very first one is alcohol... Well, we all know, you know, you drink alcohol, it pickles your brain, right? If it's used to not nutrify but denatures some of the constituents, some of the nutrifying benefits, the enzymes. Jhoane Robinson [10:21]: Um, so yes, alcohol tinctures have some benefit, but they don't have health-building, nutrifying benefit that nature's plants provide. Um, it, uh, also damages the taste. Jhoane Robinson [10:39]: It's like a lot of people go, "Oh, I can't stand tinctures. They ta- taste awful." Um, a lot of people now are going, "Wait a minute. I'm going to do..." And some for religious reasons. Some are because they've had trouble with alcoholism. Um, and any alcohol tags in anything can trigger alcohol problems for s- people that have had trouble with it. Jhoane Robinson [11:07]: So, um, there are just so many, many reasons to have a pure alcohol-free, uh, herbal remedy that's liquid. Um, and we use only the herb, water, and glycerin, and it's highest grade, pharmaceutical grade, you know, um, vegetable glycerin. Mary Meyer [11:30]: Thank you for that explanation, and that, that does make a lot of sense. Uh, do you care if we just, uh, share the website with people right now? May is Women's Health Month, which you had- Jhoane Robinson [11:42]: Right Mary Meyer [11:42]: ... uh, said earlier. And so, you know, the... maybe we can go to the women's stuff first. Does that work? Jhoane Robinson [11:48]: Sure. Mary Meyer [11:49]: Okay. Jhoane Robinson [11:50]: It's cedarbear.com. Mary Meyer [11:52]: Okay. So cedarbear.com. This is it, right? You walk me through where I should go in this. So- Jhoane Robinson [11:58]: Oh Mary Meyer [11:58]: ... if it works- Jhoane Robinson [11:59]: Uh, down on women's formulas. Mary Meyer [12:01]: Okay. Women's formulas. And we'll go down. Tell me, tell me... Just, uh, stop me somewhere where you just wanna talk about the product and why it's, it's helpful for women. Mary Meyer [12:13]: Um- Jhoane Robinson [12:13]: Okay. Mary Meyer [12:14]: Yeah. Jhoane Robinson [12:14]: Stop right there. Mary Meyer [12:15]: Okay. All right. Jhoane Robinson [12:16]: I have an truly OCD formulating husband, and he he, he f- if there is a need, a health need, he'll create a formula for it, and that formula will do what it's supposed to do. So when I sat down with, "Now we need a, a women's line now," now he didn't do one, two, five, seven formulas. Jhoane Robinson [12:42]: There are 19 formulas in this product line. As I said, OCD formula. Mary Meyer [12:48]: I love, I love it. Jhoane Robinson [12:49]: A woman's needs are different than a man's, um, hormonally, endocrine system-wise. So that's why Cardio Build, we do have a cardio/heart formula, Hawthorn Heart, in our main line, great for women too, but the Cardio Build is, is just tweaked a little for women's specific needs. Jhoane Robinson [13:13]: Um, as we all know, you know, especially as we get older, women's, um, heart health is challenged, and it's very dangerous for a woman to not take care- Mary Meyer [13:23]: Mm Jhoane Robinson [13:23]: ... of her heart health. Mary Meyer [13:24]: So this looks like this has some good stuff in it. Um, hawthorn berry, motherwort leaf, hawthorn leaf, bilberry fruit, blue, uh, vervain herb, butcher's broom root- Mary Meyer [13:36]: ... prickly ash bark, ginger root, kelp, cayenne pepper. I can't even imagine how much training, uh, you have to know to figure out that this is the right thing to put into something. Uh, but it all looks really good. Yeah. Jhoane Robinson [13:51]: It's, it's really amazing because they, these are, several of them are specific heart health strengthening. Um, motherwort r- herb is i- interesting. It's in the mint family, and it is, um, uh, Leonurus cardiaca Latin name, lion heart, because it specifically builds the heart health. Jhoane Robinson [14:14]: It also, um, is good for nursing, helps with the, the mother's milk, so motherwort. It's mother's, um, herb from the old European, uh, traditions. Mary Meyer [14:28]: Interesting. Jhoane Robinson [14:30]: Here's Glow and Grow. Glow and Grow was created well to help hair, skin, nails grow and glow. And I've been amazed, and other people that have tried it, that, "Hey, wait a minute. My hair's growing faster and thicker and coming back in. Jhoane Robinson [14:45]: I've been losing hair." But, uh- Mary Meyer [14:48]: Nice Jhoane Robinson [14:49]: ... it's, it's, it, it's building health from the inside out, really. Mary Meyer [14:54]: Amazing. Horsetail or oat straw, stinging nettle leaf, red raspberry leaf, alfalfa leaf, yarrow flower, turmeric root, and black peppercorn. Sounds great. Jhoane Robinson [15:07]: Yeah. Mary Meyer [15:07]: I mean, you know, like it, uh, it, every- Jhoane Robinson [15:10]: It tastes good too, and yes, guys, you can use it too. Um, menopause- Mary Meyer [15:17]: Menopause Jhoane Robinson [15:18]: ... oh, how the, do I wish I, that I'd been, we'd had that when I went through. Oh, my goodness. A- and back in the day, you didn't talk about it. Nobody knew anything other than, oh, hot flashes and misery. Um- Mary Meyer [15:31]: Mm Jhoane Robinson [15:31]: ... this formula was created to help gentle out the perimenopausal years. It's not just a light switch ch- and- Mary Meyer [15:43]: No, it's forever Jhoane Robinson [15:44]: ... period stop. Mary Meyer [15:44]: It goes on forever. Jhoane Robinson [15:45]: Yeah. Some people, uh, I went through menopausal, perimenopausal early, so it took me totally by surprise, probably because I had had five kids in five and a half years, and twins, so. Mary Meyer [15:59]: No way. Oh, my gosh. Mary Meyer [16:02]: I- Mary Meyer [16:02]: Oh, my gosh Jhoane Robinson [16:03]: ... I, I think I really stressed my health a whole lot. But, uh, yeah, menopause support, absolutely amazing formula. Gentle, and- Mary Meyer [16:15]: Oh Jhoane Robinson [16:16]: ... at the same time, tastes good. Mary Meyer [16:17]: Well, that's good. So black cohosh root, let me know if I'm not saying these right, chaste t- tree berry- Mary Meyer [16:26]: ... wild bergamot beebalm herb, ashwagandha root, holy basil leaf, stinging nettle leaf, uh, chicory root, dandelion leaf, shatavari root. Mary Meyer [16:37]: Uh, schi- schisandra berry, and lavender flower. Jhoane Robinson [16:41]: You did good. And several of those- Mary Meyer [16:44]: Oh, thanks Jhoane Robinson [16:44]: ... specifically women, um, known to help with women's health, and they're from, you know, all over the world. But, uh- Mary Meyer [16:52]: Yeah Jhoane Robinson [16:53]: ... India, and Asia, and Europe, and, and America. Mary Meyer [16:57]: Yeah, 'cause they have the, the names. It makes you go... That, that does sound like something that would be, uh, uh, new to our culture here. Jhoane Robinson [17:08]: It is, yeah. Mary Meyer [17:09]: Yeah. Uh, all right. S- moon cycle. Jhoane Robinson [17:13]: Moon cycle, monthly cycles, formulated to help gentle out the periods and all the- Mary Meyer [17:21]: Mm Jhoane Robinson [17:22]: ... the ups and the downs and the ins and the outs. Um, very, very, very helpful formula. Mary Meyer [17:31]: Yeah. And so, and it just seems like, I don't know. I've, I, I, just, I don't know, like with my daughters, it just seems like it's, they have a harder time, uh, with their menstrual cycle than, with pain than I ever had, and I just feel like there is something in that with whatever we're experiencing in, in our environment. But... Jhoane Robinson [17:49]: Yeah. It, it's true, and a lot of it is that we're m- micronutrient starved of those things that our bodies need to function the way they're supposed to. Jhoane Robinson [18:00]: So Cramp Bark is a formula that actually does what it's supposed to do. It helps with cramps. Um, but, uh, um, then we have Women's Willow Relief. No, Willow Blend. Women's Willow Blend, I believe it's called, is one of the formulas that goes well with the moon cycle. Also in our main line herbal minerals-Uh, was the original formula that... Jhoane Robinson [18:27]: Actually, it was the first formula that Carl did, uh, was for, um, pregnancy. So it's not in the women's line per se, but it, um, mineral levels up during pregnancy. Midwives had him create that formula. Mary Meyer [18:44]: Okay, so this is like the Moon Cycle goes... What, what was the other one? The Reproductive Builder, is that what you said? Or was there- Jhoane Robinson [18:51]: That... It can. That's actually... Yes. Um, the herbal mix, but that is a new one that is specifically to help strengthen the reproductive system, what I was saying. I wish I... We'd had these when I was having kids, because I really to, to, you know, strengthen it up. Jhoane Robinson [19:13]: Um, and then- Mary Meyer [19:15]: Yeah Jhoane Robinson [19:15]: ... Willow Blend is, uh, helps with the menstrual pains, along with Moon Cycle. Mary Meyer [19:22]: Okay. So I think that's... That was on the second page of this. Jhoane Robinson [19:25]: Yeah. Mary Meyer [19:25]: So Willow Blend. Mary Meyer [19:26]: I feel like, I feel like I remember taking, uh, that. A w- something with willow, um- Mary Meyer [19:33]: ... or having that available for like headaches and stuff like that. But this is good for menstrual pain too, Women's Willow Relief? Jhoane Robinson [19:38]: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Um, yes. White willow bark, a lot of people know, is, has salicin. Jhoane Robinson [19:46]: Aspirin was created actually from the, from meadowsweet itself. Um, but both that and white willow bark. Wild lettuce is also pain relieving and brings down the, the nerves tension. Um, stinging nettle, you'll see that in quite a few of our formulas, because it is so mineral rich that it just does wonders for our herbs. Jhoane Robinson [20:11]: It also brings d- down histamine reactions. So I, because of a health condition I have, it's an autoimmune, um, condition, genetic, uh, I have a lot of leaky gut stuff going on. So food allergies, it's just part of the profile. So, um, Seaweed Relief Tea is something that I do quite frequently, because it helps bring down those reactions in my body. Jhoane Robinson [20:38]: But, uh... Mary Meyer [20:38]: Okay. Nice. Um, are... So what, uh, you know, what else, um, as we look at Women's, you know, Health Month? You have a Women's Pregnancy Blood Builder, Women's Daily, Women's Blood Builder. Jhoane Robinson [20:53]: Blood building is so important, bec- and we get anemic, because we're, we're losing blood through menstrual periods. Jhoane Robinson [21:01]: That pre, uh, formula was created for that, to help strengthen the iron levels in our blood, um, and min- mineral levels. Then we had a, one of our store accounts that carried, that deals with lots and lots of pregnant women. Jhoane Robinson [21:23]: They came to us and they said, "Yeah, but there are a couple of herbs in there that shouldn't be given to, during pregnancy." And Carl goes, "Oh my gosh, they're right." So Pregnancy Blood Builder is... So we have two- Mary Meyer [21:37]: Oh, okay Jhoane Robinson [21:37]: ... blood builders. Mary Meyer [21:39]: Okay. Jhoane Robinson [21:40]: So. Mary Meyer [21:40]: So and then, oh, that's really, that's really good to know. So one for when you're pregnant, one for when you are not pregnant. So- Jhoane Robinson [21:48]: Yeah Mary Meyer [21:48]: ... yeah. Jhoane Robinson [21:49]: Pregnancy- Mary Meyer [21:49]: Yeah Jhoane Robinson [21:50]: ... gotta have blood building, because it's strengthening, because the, the, you're augmenting your circulatory system for two at the same time. Jhoane Robinson [22:01]: And so it's, that's a huge importance during pregnancy. Mary Meyer [22:06]: Yeah. Ginger root, dulce, rose hips, caraway seed, celery seed, spearmint leaf, gotu kola herb, basil leaf, alfalfa leaf, stinging nettle leaf, beetroot. And so you can just read those off and go, "Yeah, that sounds like really good stuff to have when you're pregnant." Jhoane Robinson [22:21]: Yeah. Mary Meyer [22:22]: Or, or any other time, honestly. But yeah. Jhoane Robinson [22:24]: Yeah, exactly, and it tastes, tastes great. Now, a lot of times during pregnancy, of course, we go through the nausea issues, and so Morning Stomach Settler helps with that. That was created specifically for, um, uh... And we have it in all of our product lines, a variation, because, uh, it's just so effective. Jhoane Robinson [22:47]: Very simple formula with ginger, and, um- Mary Meyer [22:51]: Okay. Which- Jhoane Robinson [22:51]: ... it also helps the digest. Uh, morning, um, um, be under M. Mary Meyer [22:57]: Yeah. I mean, you don't really ever forget. It's been a long time since I've been pregnant, but you do not forget that nausea. Man. Jhoane Robinson [23:03]: Oh. Yep, yep. Mary Meyer [23:06]: Yeah. Jhoane Robinson [23:06]: So this can be taken any time of the day, and it can be taken by anyone. Yeah. Mary Meyer [23:11]: Okay. Jhoane Robinson [23:11]: Very soothing, and helps. Mary Meyer [23:16]: Yeah. Yeah, that sounds good. So it doesn't ha- I mean, this isn't just formulated for morning sickness, is what you're saying. It's just digestive help for anyone who's needs digestive help. Jhoane Robinson [23:26]: This is true too. Mary Meyer [23:28]: Okay. I just want to make sure that's, I'm hearing what you're saying. So- Jhoane Robinson [23:32]: Well, in the children, our children's line, um, the Tummy Ease is the f- the first iteration of the, um, our stomach relief or, uh, formula, and it's a little simpler than this one. I think ginger might be the first herb in it. But, um, it, it works too. Jhoane Robinson [23:53]: And since it was- Mary Meyer [23:55]: Yeah. That's good Jhoane Robinson [23:56]: ... originally created for women, it, that are preg- Mary Meyer [24:01]: Yeah Jhoane Robinson [24:02]: ... yeah. Mary Meyer [24:02]: Yeah. So- Jhoane Robinson [24:02]: This one, he tweaked it to be even more settling and digestive supporting. Mary Meyer [24:08]: So I think it's, it's fun that there's catnip leaf and stem in it. What, how does, how does that help with that? Jhoane Robinson [24:15]: Cat- Mary Meyer [24:15]: That's like the, one of the main ones Jhoane Robinson [24:17]: ... such a fun, it's such a fun herb. Um, it's a, it's a mint. It does not taste like mint. It's not nearly as yummy. But so when I make a catnip tea and I make, um-Catnip for Kids, uh, dried herb tea from herbs from my organic garden that I sell at the local, uh, co-op. Jhoane Robinson [24:39]: Um, and people go, "Catnip for kids?" Yes. Catnip has a, a constituent that makes cats a little crazy and drunk, and 80% of cats do that. They just go, "Ah." So- Mary Meyer [24:54]: Yeah Jhoane Robinson [24:55]: ... while it does that with cats, it calms kids and grown-ups. It's soothing to the nervous system itself. It, it, it's actually a good sleep aid for most. And- Mary Meyer [25:07]: Oh, yeah. Interesting Jhoane Robinson [25:08]: ... um, at the same time, has a lot of the benefits of the, the mint family with the nutrients. So yes, you'll see catnip in some of our formulas that, that are calming based. Mary Meyer [25:20]: You know what? My, I, my daughter had a cat who lived with us for a while, and so I've seen what catnip does to the, the cat, and you're like, "Yeah, we're not, we're not ever giving her catnip again." It's like, it's gonna be- Jhoane Robinson [25:35]: Spectacular. Yeah. Mary Meyer [25:37]: Um, okay. So you have some Sleep & Calming, Sugar Balance, Vein & Vessel Toner, Slimmer Woman. Mary Meyer [25:46]: Any of those you wanna highlight? Jhoane Robinson [25:48]: Oh, gracious. Um- Mary Meyer [25:51]: Osteo Build too. There's an Osteo Build. Jhoane Robinson [25:54]: Yes. It is specifically targeted to help build bone density, strength, and health. Um, Vein & Vessel B- uh, Toner helps with the strengthening the, the veins and the vessels, and a lot of women have trouble in the lower li- uh, legs and such. Jhoane Robinson [26:15]: But it helps throughout the whole body. Mary Meyer [26:17]: Is there... Uh, the Vein & Vessel Toner, is that, is there an, an age you feel like this is good, or kind of like... I mean, because here it says puberty, pregnancy, menopause, um, stuff from birth control pills, uh, weakened vein and vascular tissues are more common. Mary Meyer [26:35]: Um- Jhoane Robinson [26:36]: You know, you know, my daughter, uh, started developing some varica- vara- varicose veins, whatever, varicosity, in her legs in her early 30s. It just, because of the Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, EDS, that we, she had inherited. Um, and so this would be a formula that even younger she could've been using had we had it at the time. Mary Meyer [26:59]: Mm. I love that you guys are building things you wish you would've had. I mean, that's- Mary Meyer [27:05]: You know? That's great. Uh, so this is... Uh, I just had someone on who uses calendula a lot. They have a, um, you know, a cream, a salve company. Jhoane Robinson [27:16]: Mm, yeah. Mary Meyer [27:16]: So that's something that they... And that's, uh, so you guys have this in here too with horse chestnut, butcher's broom root, pine bark, ginkgo leaf, gotu kola leaf, lemon peel, and cayenne pepper. Uh, cayenne pepper's in a few of these. Is the pepper, like, is it an activator? Jhoane Robinson [27:33]: It, exactly. Mary Meyer [27:34]: Or does that have- Jhoane Robinson [27:34]: That's where it's used. Mary Meyer [27:36]: Is it? Jhoane Robinson [27:36]: Very, very small amounts so that you really won't even taste, uh, you know, the k- a kick. Um, but it's an activator. It's a... It helps synergize the formula and, and gets it to move where it needs to move. So especially cayenne helps in the circulatory system to move things. Mary Meyer [27:56]: That makes a lot of sense. Cayenne pepper seems like that's gonna move stuff. Jhoane Robinson [28:02]: Yeah. Mary Meyer [28:02]: Just, just the general essence of it. Jhoane Robinson [28:05]: You, you mentioned, uh, the calendula. Calendula is pot marigold. It doesn't look like the regular marigolds. It has, um, f- more a fleshy leaf, not little ferny leaves. Um, and it's easy to grow, and you can use it for so many things. So the, you know, the, the happy little orange, uh, or yellow flowers, you can dry them and use them in teas and use them in potpourris and use them, uh, internally for... Jhoane Robinson [28:37]: They're very, um... It's healing and soothing to the tissues in the body. Nothing more wonderful in skin care than, uh, the calendula flowers. Mary Meyer [28:50]: Yeah. Yeah, that's great. So that's the Vein & Vessel. There's some Sugar Balance. Mary Meyer [28:56]: Um, what, the Slimmer Woman. Mary Meyer [28:58]: There's so many things- Mary Meyer [28:59]: I love it Mary Meyer [28:59]: ... for weight loss out there. Tell me about this one, if you would. Jhoane Robinson [29:03]: That is great. Um, Slimmer Woman is formulated to help balance the appetite because a lot of times we just, uh, you know, especially stress eat. But it helps with fluid dynamics to help bring the excess fluids out of the body, uh, and really helps balance things. Jhoane Robinson [29:28]: Um, I have a tendency now and again to have put on s- put on some water weight, especially when there's extra stress going on, and I'll pull out the Slimmer Woman, take it for a few days, and go, "Okay, now I'm... That feels better." Mary Meyer [29:44]: That's good to know. So a question with all of these. When you use them, do you put them in water, or do you put them under your tongue? Um, or do you mix it up? Jhoane Robinson [29:58]: I... It goes straight in the mouth, whether it's under, uh, under the tongue, the reason she mentions that is it t- it tends to absorb faster. Um, but, uh, it's, we're talking herbal nutrition, so it's like when it goes into the mouth, it starts working. I will s- usually in the morning take two or three different formulations that I know I need for that day, and I'll actually put them in a small amount of water together as my morning tonic.And it, it, it's, uh, a great way to start a day, but it a- also kind of makes a super formula. Mary Meyer [30:40]: Yeah. Jhoane Robinson [30:40]: Um, if I'm running out the door and I want to have some with me, I might put some in a water bottle, uh, to, to sip throughout the day. Mary Meyer [30:52]: Yeah, this looks, uh, gar- garcinia fruit is the first thing here in the Slimmer Woman. Um- Jhoane Robinson [30:59]: That helps with blood sugar balance also, as well as weight. Now, Gymnema helps bring down the, uh, uh, excess appetite. Um, Gymnema h- is a blood sugar actually supporting, um, herb from India that helps... Jhoane Robinson [31:20]: Gosh, it actually, if you take Gymnema straight, it's known as the sugar killer, and any stop blood sugar problems, but also helps- Mary Meyer [31:31]: Wow Jhoane Robinson [31:31]: ... the next couple are very iron rich, um, and, uh, help with, uh, uh, the nutrients. You see, part of why we have trouble with our weights is we are not nutritionally balanced. Our thyroids are functioning low. They need more iodine also, um- Mary Meyer [31:54]: Right Jhoane Robinson [31:54]: ... and to function better. That's why we do an iodine supplement called Zodine. Jhoane Robinson [31:58]: Absolutely astounding. We had to create... It had never been done before, so created a process specifically for making amazing iodine. Um, Black Walnut Hull has, uh, is land-based, iodine based, um, a little bit in it. Mary Meyer [32:18]: Nice. Jhoane Robinson [32:18]: But it's also anti-parasite, so it, you'll find that in our Intestinal Cleanse formula. So yeah. Mary Meyer [32:26]: Nice. Uh, that's so great. Uh, so much good stuff. Um, I'm curious, can you talk about the Osteo Build? I know that's a, can be a certainly an issue with women and aging. Jhoane Robinson [32:40]: Yeah. Yeah, I have a friend who was just really disconcerted when she was, um, a- and quite young, uh, diagnosed with having, uh, osteoporosis issues. And, um, I said, "Well, you know, we just came out with Osteo Build formula. You want to take it, give it a try?" And she just swears by this, this formula. Jhoane Robinson [33:03]: Um, it's just so mineral rich. Those phytonutrients and those trace minerals are so important to our bone health. Mary Meyer [33:13]: Yeah. And, uh, such, such ama- there's some things in here- Jhoane Robinson [33:18]: It's quite a lot Mary Meyer [33:18]: ... like I've heard of before, but not, but not all of them. Jhoane Robinson [33:22]: No. Yeah, some of them are our basic, um, cooking herbs. Well, a lot of those, um, this parsley, sage, rosemary, and thyme, right? Mary Meyer [33:33]: Right. Yeah. Jhoane Robinson [33:34]: Uh, those, uh, those herbs had been used for, you know, centuries in making, cooking foods, preservatives. Sage was a preservative, um, for keeping foods lasting longer. Jhoane Robinson [33:48]: Um, but all these, they just do such wonders for our health. Uh, black cohosh is a specifically works for women's health. Um, devil's claw, there, there's one that, that has... It's a plant. It's called that because its pod, you know, looks like a devil's claw. Mary Meyer [34:09]: Right. Jhoane Robinson [34:09]: And it helps with, with pain by mineralizing, so that's, uh, why that's helpful there. Horsetail, which you saw in, um, one of the earlier formulas too, is very, very mineralizing. It is, um, uh, silica, high in silica, and there are very few plants that are high in silica. Mary Meyer [34:32]: Nice. Jhoane Robinson [34:33]: So it's really, really building to our tissues. Yeah. Mary Meyer [34:37]: Yeah. That's, this is so great, and Women's Health Month. Jhoane Robinson [34:40]: It's so much. Mary Meyer [34:41]: There's so much there. Jhoane Robinson [34:43]: There's just so much. Mary Meyer [34:44]: Yeah. So there's stuff for nursing, for the morning, the, just the- Jhoane Robinson [34:48]: Yeah Mary Meyer [34:48]: ... Glow and Grow, and I know other things here, you said there's... So kids formulas. Um, let's look at the iodine 'cause you mentioned the iodine is so... And I have heard this, and there really is never... Iodine and thyroid are connected, and we need iodine for thyroid, and everyone's having thyroid issues it seems like. Jhoane Robinson [35:08]: It is a huge part underlying a lot of the weight and blood sugar problems that we have is the thyroid, the, the, um, which we call the HPA axis, hypothalamus, pituitary, and, oh, HPT axis. Um, it's, there are two of them. HPA is adrenal, and we have our Adrenal Balance formulas, uh, that help with that. Jhoane Robinson [35:32]: But HPT is, uh, is the thyroid. And so in balancing out the thyroid and feeding it what it needs, we have a Thyroid Boost formula also that goes well with the, uh, Zodine iodine. But it's not just- Mary Meyer [35:46]: Mm-hmm Jhoane Robinson [35:46]: ... the thyroid. Every cell of our bodies needs iodine, and so much of what's going on out there in, oh, the dough conditioners in the breads and the pastries and such like that, and, um, has, uh, it escapes me, the name of the what it is. But anyway, it, um, knocks out the, the iodine and, uh, takes over there, so it's part of that. Jhoane Robinson [36:12]: But every cell of our body needs it, and part of why there's so much cellular health issues is because we don't have proper iodine balance in our health. So pregnant women and, and little ones should all be, you know, uh- Mary Meyer [36:31]: Taking iodine? Jhoane Robinson [36:32]: Yeah, iodineAnd most of the ones that are out on the market are not healthy, really best. And that's why we created one that was, was so pure and so gentle that it could be taken by everybody. Mary Meyer [36:44]: Yeah. I really, I, you know, this is we live in a world where, you know, it just seems like everyone knows to turn over and read a label, but they don't. Mary Meyer [36:56]: And- ... it's an, it- but they don't, and so they're like, they're putting, they're drinking stuff, eating stuff that's just, um... I mean, and some of the worst is the stuff that's supposed to be hydrating. Oh, this is hydrating drinks, you know, a- and, uh, this is what you take when you don't feel good, and you turn it over, it's like, this is poison. Mary Meyer [37:17]: It's straight up poison- Jhoane Robinson [37:19]: Yeah Mary Meyer [37:19]: ... that you're putting in your body to, when you're s- not feeling good in order to stay hydrated. Mary Meyer [37:24]: Um, and there's products for kids like that too. So I'm like, you guys gotta read the back of the... Please, I mean, like, you almost wanna beg people. Please look at the back of the label. Mary Meyer [37:35]: This is trash. You're, you're fe- Mary Meyer [37:36]: It's not- Mary Meyer [37:36]: ... feeding your body, you're feeding your children trash, and yourself. Jhoane Robinson [37:41]: Yeah. If, if you can't interpret what is on that label, th- and it looks like a bunch of pharmaceutical type of words, it is. Jhoane Robinson [37:50]: It's not natural. It's not, you know. Yeah, let's, let's go back to nature and, and, and also grow as much as you can- Mary Meyer [37:59]: Yeah Jhoane Robinson [37:59]: ... in your own gardens or your own pot. I am growing. I don't have any place to grow anything, so I have a grow light in my garage, and I'm growing some vegetables in my garage. I mean, good on you. Grow those things. Mary Meyer [38:14]: Yes. I wanna hear more about that. So a b- and before we, we do a little bit about... 'cause it is, it's, you know, it's time you can plant some stuff right now. Mary Meyer [38:24]: So, uh, so we just covered some stuff for women, b- but when you go to cedarbear.com, you're gonna find out that there is, uh, so many, uh, things on here for pets, for kids, uh, just for, um... Mary Meyer [38:38]: You go to body systems, you got cardiovascular, digestive, endocrine, uh, h- hepatic, which is liver, nervous, respiratory, uh, female reproductive, male reproductive, structural, urinary, and immune and lymphatic. So, you know, when we need our lymphatic system moving, we got clogged lymphatic systems. Jhoane Robinson [38:55]: Yeah. That's all over too. Mary Meyer [38:57]: Yeah. Jhoane Robinson [38:58]: Our lymphatic cleanse formula is amazing for helping clear the lymphatic system. That's part of staying well or getting well when you've been sick. Yeah. Mary Meyer [39:08]: Yeah. So, oh, some really good stuff. You guys just, you really do have so much stuff here- Jhoane Robinson [39:12]: Yes Mary Meyer [39:13]: ... that you can look through. Mary Meyer [39:15]: Yeah. Magnificent Mushrooms. The About Us, when I was looking at this, there is more on, on cedarbear.com, the About Us. If you're, if you're one of many who really has not taken herbals or don't think it's, the I've tried that and it doesn't work for me, because you took- Mary Meyer [39:33]: ... something that, uh, wasn't made well, or you didn't take it right, to be hon- I mean, whatever it was, or didn't take it long enough. You took it one time and, and, um, like, "See? It doesn't work." I, I d- whatever it is. Mary Meyer [39:47]: It's like, we gotta do the whole thing. We gotta do the whole cleanse. But, uh- Jhoane Robinson [39:52]: The whole thing Mary Meyer [39:52]: ... but the w- but the why in all of this, and you guys just have so much great stuff. Uh- Mary Meyer [39:58]: ... and also... 'Cause I know time is running out, and I really wanna hear about, um, some organic gardening, but if there's anyone that you have the third party opportunities also on there. Mary Meyer [40:10]: Um, and those just would... Tell me, tell me briefly. So that can be for, you know, a company who just wants to sell it on their website or for a doctor's office or something like that. Is that kind of what that is for? Jhoane Robinson [40:21]: Um, we, we encourage, um, to do wholesale accounts for that for in regular Cedar Bear brand, because we don't do small batch, uh, your, your label here type of private label. Mary Meyer [40:36]: Okay. Okay. Jhoane Robinson [40:37]: Um, but do for larger companies because there are minimum order sizes. Um, but our come from was, uh, we want to get the help out, uh, out there, so we'll produce for other companies too. So we have some, uh, private label companies use our products in, uh, a drink or in a chocolate bar or in a you know, various types of toothpaste. Jhoane Robinson [41:04]: Uh, I mean, there are different ways that these herbs can be used- Jhoane Robinson [41:09]: ... um, as well as, uh, direct supplements. Mary Meyer [41:12]: Yeah. And so but a clinic or something else, they could just, they could use, you could, they could get your line and sell it at their clinic- Jhoane Robinson [41:18]: Yeah Mary Meyer [41:18]: ... and have it more available to their cl- to their clients, basically. Jhoane Robinson [41:21]: Yeah. We've had a lot of kind of clinics through the years. We've had very, very success ordering that. Mary Meyer [41:27]: That's, that's wonderful. Okay. So, um, I'm gonna get rid of this. And tell me, um, it's May, Women's Health Month, and also we can plant some stuff, and you know so much about organic gardening. Where, where do we start? Like, and I'm gonna tell you this, like my mom gardened. I grew up in Iowa. We had a garden, and then- Mary Meyer [41:50]: ... I, I, you know, moved to Tennessee, and I'm trying to garden, and I'm like, "I can't do this." This is like, I don't it would just... I don't know why it was so hard and so difficult to actually make it happen, and it's always been one of those things where I'm like, "This is frustrating. I really want to feel very confident in growing some stuff," whether it's, you know- Mary Meyer [42:08]: Oh Mary Meyer [42:08]: ... some, just some herbs. Jhoane Robinson [42:09]: Um, we're high desert, um, area where it's very, very arid, uh, uh, in northeastern Utah, but it also gets very, very cold in the winters. Um, it's not unheard of for it to get to 20 to 30 below in the winter. So we're not as cold as we used to be, so the climate changing shifts are very real, but and it's warmer in the summers than it used to be.So we have to deal with the 30-degree temperature changes, you know, every night in, in the summers and everything. Jhoane Robinson [42:43]: So that affects... plus our pH is on the high side, that affects. Plus our s- our soil is, um, clay and rock, so that affects it. So, uh, and I didn't know how to grow a dang thing when I moved out here. Plus, I was deathly ill, and I could, I could hardly walk. Jhoane Robinson [43:05]: ... and so, um, my husband and his partner put in gardens, uh, at the property because we had bought acreage, a small farm, to plan to do. It, it wasn't farming at the time. It'd been rent. And so I watched the gardens not being taken care of, and I go, "Oh, I've gotta get out there," so I dragged myself out there and started taking care of the garden, and it started taking care of me. Jhoane Robinson [43:30]: And it became this incredible healing journey. And, and I've been gardening ever since. Mary Meyer [43:38]: Okay. Jhoane Robinson [43:38]: Uh, and so where do you start? Well, you wanna... If you've got pH issues, it's going to affect how and what you grow, so you need to learn a little about that. Jhoane Robinson [43:51]: Um, but start with a pot and grow some mint. Uh- Jhoane Robinson [43:58]: Okay Jhoane Robinson [43:58]: ... I had... One of my mentors was, was Mel Bartholomew who developed the square foot gardening- Mary Meyer [44:05]: Okay Jhoane Robinson [44:05]: ... uh, whole movement. He came here- Jhoane Robinson [44:09]: Okay Jhoane Robinson [44:09]: ... he did a workshop. And so before doing the weekend workshop, he... Jhoane Robinson [44:14]: Gosh, it was like four days. Uh, he came out and spent a c- a, a whole week teaching me how to garden, um, with his technique, uh, to prepare the gardens for when the workshop came, so we, we spent, you know, some really great time. Square foot gardening takes a four by four square and breaks it into one-foot-size squares within that in a raised bed. Jhoane Robinson [44:44]: So raised bed gardening with just that amount of size, you can grow a lot of vegetables, and flowers, and, and herbs and have a lot of fun. So that is the greatest to start, is get the most recent square foot gardening book, and, uh, if you only have small area to work in. Jhoane Robinson [45:05]: And you can do a little, tiny organic garden and have a lot of fun with it. Mary Meyer [45:11]: Yeah. Well, four foot by four foot, so that's like, that's, that's a reasonable amount, like, if you have a little yard, so I love that you, you did that. Mary Meyer [45:20]: So if you do have that, so you find a four-foot by four-foot garden, like, do you do it where it's a raised bed in the ground? What would you suggest being put in it? Like, how would you, how would you... What are your recommendations? Jhoane Robinson [45:36]: Ha. We find in our area, raised bed really is, is a must for effective gardening, um, because you can, um, control better your pH, your nutrients, your f- um, moisture, um, levels, uh, and, and weeds. Jhoane Robinson [45:59]: And when you compact grow, um, instead of in long rows in the traditional gardens that get weedy and overwhelming, when you, when you take instead of a, a four-foot long row of beans and you grow nine, two, three... Jhoane Robinson [46:22]: nine bean, bean plants in one square, you have almost no weeds. Mary Meyer [46:28]: Okay. Okay. Jhoane Robinson [46:30]: And then when you do the next square is chard. You have no- almost no weeds when you have four chard plants in a square. That's quite fun. It's, it's- Mary Meyer [46:43]: Yeah Jhoane Robinson [46:44]: ... symmetric, too. And then when the next square is, uh, let's see, I think it's, like, 28 carrots in the next one. There's no weeds. Jhoane Robinson [46:54]: You just... Other than a whole long row of carrots, you have them in a s- in a square, and then it looks cool, too. Mary Meyer [47:06]: That does sound like it would look cool, and, uh, who doesn't love not having to weed? Jhoane Robinson [47:13]: Yeah. Mary Meyer [47:13]: To do all the weeding. Jhoane Robinson [47:15]: And there's very little, very little because the plants just, um, you know... You go out and you go, "Oh, well, let's take these little weeds out while they're little," and then as the plant grows, then you just don't have very... You have very little weed problems. Mary Meyer [47:29]: Mm-hmm. So if someone just is like, "Okay, I'm gonna get three or four little pots and try to do an herb garden and start with that," is that a, is that a decent idea or a place to start? Jhoane Robinson [47:41]: Oh, fabulous way to start. I have a porch that in the wintertime it's empty. Jhoane Robinson [47:50]: In the summertime it's my outdoor living room, extra living room, with 100 or more pots on it. Mary Meyer [47:58]: Aw. Jhoane Robinson [47:58]: I get a little crazy. And the, you know, one pot may be holy basil, and another pot may be sage, and another pot may be catnip. And, and so, uh, or I'll inters- I'll, I'll do, uh, on the larger ones do the marigolds on the outside and, um, and, and nasturtiums that cascade over the side. Jhoane Robinson [48:24]: Um, and sometimes I'll do lettuce in a pot on the porch- Jhoane Robinson [48:31]: ... uh, with, um, radishes around it. Uh, and then when the radishes are done, then we'll... I'll put in something else like, uh, as I said, the marigolds go in next. Jhoane Robinson [48:43]: Uh, so you can have so much fun with just a few pots.Just make sure, one, that they drain well and that you're watering enough. But they depend on you for nutrition, so you want to make sure that you are getting the fertilizer in there that they need. Jhoane Robinson [49:04]: But if you're eating it, you want to use organic-based, not, um, the, the stuff that's for gardens that, it, that just grows lots of big flowers and plants, but it doesn't take care of your nutrients and- Mary Meyer [49:21]: So what I'm hearing you say is, like, for every climate, and maybe for every type of, uh, thing you're growing, there's a little bit different ratio of what it might need. Is that- Jhoane Robinson [49:34]: Well- Mary Meyer [49:34]: Am I hearing it right? Jhoane Robinson [49:35]: Well, it depends so much on the plants themselves. Like, um, if you give too much nitrogen to a tomato plant, you'll have all plant and no tomatoes. I did that. I made that mistake one year with a very large tomato garden. Mary Meyer [49:52]: Oh, no. Jhoane Robinson [49:53]: And we, we just nitrified the heck out of it in the spring, and I had this incredible tomato jungle because it built fences. Jungle with very few tomatoes. So that was an experience of don't over nitrogenate something. You want to have fruit, at least tomato really is a fruit, but fruit, not lots of foliage. Jhoane Robinson [50:17]: So- Mary Meyer [50:17]: Yeah Jhoane Robinson [50:18]: ... it, it's a learning curve, and it's so exciting, too. I mean, you make mistakes and you go, "Dang, that didn't work." Um- Jhoane Robinson [50:24]: Oh, no Jhoane Robinson [50:24]: ... don't, because you can't do, like, too hot of compost from, from your, um, this year's chicken or, or this year's cow manure in the pasture. You can't put it in your garden right this second. It has to age. Jhoane Robinson [50:39]: Because if you put it on too hot, it'll burn your plants. And then you go, "Oh, that didn't work. Dang." Mary Meyer [50:46]: Oh. That's really good to, that's good to know. Mary Meyer [50:51]: And well, I appreciate you saying play around, too, 'cause I, you know, I, it does seem like it's overwhelming. It's like, oh, can I get this thing to grow? Or am I gonna kill it? You... Okay, I have a specific question. So if I wanna do, if I'm potting, uh, like herbs or lettuce, 'cause I've not done this, do you just, like, snip off what you want and then just let it keep growing? Mary Meyer [51:17]: Is there a certain, like with herbs, how do you, how do you do herbs? Jhoane Robinson [51:20]: That's the good th- Mary Meyer [51:21]: Just snip it off? Jhoane Robinson [51:23]: It's that most of them are cut and grow again. Cut and come again. Um, and the more you trim, the more it grows. Mary Meyer [51:33]: Okay. Jhoane Robinson [51:33]: So if you just leave it, which I often do, and then it, it just grows, and then goes to flower, and then goes to seed, you don't get nearly the amount of wonderfulness as if, you know, like a basil plant. If you, um, have your, uh, whether it's a holy basil, which is very calming, soothing, and marvelous, um, or a, a culinary Italian basil, um, if you let it go to flower, then you're, it's, it's basically expending the plant, and it, you won't get all the wonderful leaves for your, um, teas or your cooking. Mary Meyer [52:14]: Okay. So keep snipping at it. So when you- Jhoane Robinson [52:17]: Yeah Mary Meyer [52:17]: ... when you, uh, when you make a tea with these, do you just put them in a cup, uh, dried, uh, not dried? Uh, put hot water on it? I mean, like, how do you- Mary Meyer [52:29]: ... how do you use it for tea? I've never done that either. Jhoane Robinson [52:32]: Great, very good. Mary Meyer [52:33]: So- Jhoane Robinson [52:33]: You're gonna have fun. You're gonna have fun. Okay. You can use your f- your fresh herbs, um, and plants in, in water and steep it, and I do that all the time. Um, when you dry the herbs, you use dried herbs, then I just use a French press. Jhoane Robinson [52:54]: I don't use tea strainers and such. I use the coffee French press where the, the coffee goes in, and then the water, and then you press it after, you know, three and a half minutes. Jhoane Robinson [53:04]: I do that with herbs. Mary Meyer [53:05]: Okay. Jhoane Robinson [53:05]: And that way you get more of the flavor and more of the nutrients, and you can actually reuse the same herbs two or three times during the day, uh, just replenished with more hot water. So that's called an herbal infusion when you infuse the herb with hot water and let it, you know. And then just press it, and you pour it. Jhoane Robinson [53:27]: And I still haven't played with a sweetener flavor, but you know, you can use a little honey or agave or whatever. But yeah, I do herbal teas, like, daily. Mary Meyer [53:40]: Oh. Jhoane Robinson [53:40]: Um, and they're so fun. It's so fun to have, and it's also so good for your health. Mary Meyer [53:45]: Yeah. Jhoane Robinson [53:45]: So much, so much better than the tea bags you buy from the store that are so desiccated and you don't know how old those are. Mary Meyer [53:52]: Mm. Right, and then there's semi-perplastics in those also probably. Uh, that's what I've heard. So, um- Jhoane Robinson [54:02]: Mm. Mary Meyer [54:02]: So this is, well, this is great news, 'cause, like, it just seems like a good herbal tea was always a little too much, a little too much for me to try. Mary Meyer [54:13]: But this sounds simple. Jhoane Robinson [54:15]: Yeah. Mary Meyer [54:15]: So, like, you could grow spearmint in, in one, and mint, and then- Jhoane Robinson [54:20]: Oh, yeah. I've, I've- Mary Meyer [54:21]: ... and then play Jhoane Robinson [54:22]: ... pots with, uh, pots with spearmint, and with peppermint, and chocolate mint, you know. And, and just grab it, put it in the hot water. Let it steep. Uh, but if I want it to be more concentrated and last longer than just summer and fall, then dry the herb. Jhoane Robinson [54:43]: Easy peasy to dry herbs. Um, you can, uh, just-Cut a bunch and dry the, uh, the... And tie the stem and hang it, and let it just dry, and then strip off the leaves. Jhoane Robinson [55:00]: Um, and there you've got your dried herb. Um, that's just bundle of herbs that will, will dry. Mary Meyer [55:09]: Yeah. Jhoane Robinson [55:10]: A fun herb for health to grow that's very easy is lemon balm. Mary Meyer [55:15]: Okay. Jhoane Robinson [55:16]: Lemon balm tastes lemony. It's a mint, and it's soothing and calming. Just absolutely magnificent. One of my favorites. Mary Meyer [55:28]: Oh, I love that. Um, so much great information. Thank you, Joan. Uh, so with regard... So there's, there's... I know these, these topics that we're discussing, uh, are... they probably are doctorate programs on all. You know what I mean? Mary Meyer [55:45]: Like- ... there's so, so, so much. Um, but I just wanted to, you know, kind of bring this into the more of the public awareness- Mary Meyer [55:54]: ... um, that these are things that, that aren't hard, they aren't, uh, scary, and they are things- Mary Meyer [56:00]: ... that are really pretty simple, and probably should just be part of everybody's every day. Jhoane Robinson [56:07]: Absolutely. Mary Meyer [56:07]: Uh, yeah. So I don't think I asked this one question. Um, with the drops, why? Mary Meyer [56:16]: I mean, the... when you put them in your mouth, um- Mary Meyer [56:19]: ... I think you, you covered this a little bit, but I'm... and I'm asking this 'cause I... when I was, uh, dealing with Lyme's disease, I did a lot of under the tongue remedies. Mary Meyer [56:29]: And, um, so why, why under the tongue, in the mouth? Or even if you're drinking it, why, why is it good to have it in the mouth, not just the stomach? Like, what, what's the benefit of that? Jhoane Robinson [56:44]: Um, the body starts doing whatever it does with health from the mouth, right there. If you just swallow a pill and it send it down to the stomach, it has to break down, be digested. Body has to figure out how to absorb it. Jhoane Robinson [57:04]: And if you have weak digestion, compromised immune system, which most of your immune system is in your digestive system, in your gut, and then in the lymphatic system. Jhoane Robinson [57:15]: But the, the body has to figure it out, and most of that just goes down the toilet. So when you have a proper, wonderful liquid, then it goes, gets absorbed. So you were probably working with homeopathics as well as other remedies. Mary Meyer [57:36]: Yes. Jhoane Robinson [57:36]: And those were definitely under the tongue for the homeopathic to activate, and a lot of those are alcohol-based, so... But they're not working on nutritive, they're working on the energy of the herb. Mary Meyer [57:50]: Okay. Jhoane Robinson [57:50]: Um, very, very valid part of natural health remedies- Jhoane Robinson [57:55]: ... is the homeopathics. Um, but through the oral activity, the body starts doing its thing immediately. So when you take a CedarBear herb, say, um, the SinusTime formula, um, because your sinuses are just clogged and blah-bitty-da-da. Mary Meyer [58:20]: Yeah, and everyone's dealing with that. Jhoane Robinson [58:23]: Well, that one, Sinus Thyme, T-H-Y-M-E, because time is in it, and it is time to get the sinuses functioning right. And it helps with not just, um, you know, congestion, but things that may be hiding out in your sinuses that, you know, they... your antibiotics aren't working. Why? Jhoane Robinson [58:41]: Well, because it may be something else. The Sinus Thyme helps. But it starts immediately. You can feel that action right away. And a lot of our, um, uh, different formulations in single herbs, you can feel it pretty quickly because the body all start to go, "Oh, thank you very much," the second it's gone in the body. Mary Meyer [59:02]: Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, I know we're kind of running out of time. What else should... Mary Meyer [59:09]: do people... should they know, or if you have some resources, uh, for, you know, anyone who wants to do, uh, some, some of their own study? CedarBear is such a great resource. Jhoane Robinson [59:23]: Yeah. And, and as we build it, there will be more information as we go. Every one of the formulas and single herbs does have a handout on the website so you can learn more about it. Mary Meyer [59:35]: Okay. Jhoane Robinson [59:35]: Um, but gosh. You know, one of my favorite, uh, things I have, uh, that I learn from, it's always by my bedside, is the, um, Mother Earth News magazines. Mary Meyer [59:49]: Okay. Jhoane Robinson [59:51]: They are pretty... They're, they're just fun and full of information all the time. Jhoane Robinson [59:56]: So Mother Earth News. Um, and then for binds, the herbs, um, it... they're already, you know, dried herbs and such, and it has incredible amount of information. They've become such a service-oriented company as Mountain Rose Herbs. Mary Meyer [60:15]: Okay. Jhoane Robinson [60:16]: So Mountain Rose Herbs. Um, so they... people, "Well, how do I get holy basil or, or something, uh, catnip dried?" Though that's a great place to go because everything they do is organic. Um, one of my favorite seed companies is, uh, Baker Creek, um, because they do only heirloom herbs, so you can grow your own plants for growing your own seeds. Jhoane Robinson [60:44]: Um, they're all, um, really natural, not hybrid. Um, that's... what's their website? Rareseeds.com is their website. Um- Mary Meyer [60:59]: Okay Jhoane Robinson [61:00]: ... and then if you wanna go even more medicinal, Strictly Medicinal Herbs. So Strictly Medicinal Herbs, um, is wonderful for medicinal herb seeds and some vegetables. Yeah. Mary Meyer [61:18]: Oh, this... that's great resources. Thank you for that. Well, thank you, Jhoane. I really appreciate your time, and, uh, glad we could fit it into your busy schedule- Jhoane Robinson [61:28]: Oh, Mary- Mary Meyer [61:28]: ... um, to make this happen Jhoane Robinson [61:30]: ... thank you for the good work you're doing. It's so important, and for us to grow our health and wellbeing from the roots, the ground up. Mary Meyer [61:42]: Yes, for sure. For sure. And we all need it, and it seems like more every day, so. Jhoane Robinson [61:47]: Absolutely. Mary Meyer [61:49]: Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, thank you, Joan. You have a good day. Jhoane Robinson [61:52]: Thank you.