Latest / The Mental Healness Podcast / I came home and my wife was gone...it left me broken
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- 0:00So I came home one day and my wife was gone.
- 0:03Yeah, she had moved all her stuff completely out and I guess
- 0:07got rid of a lot of things. And I was home alone with my dog
- 0:11in a text message that said, hey, this isn't working.
- 0:14And I think it's best if we go out separate ways.
- 0:17That's thung out. If you're new here, my name is
- 0:19Lee Hammock. I'm a diagnosed narcissist.
- 0:21And welcome to another episode of The Narcissist Coat.
- 0:40So yeah, boom, today we are talking about, well, my wife
- 0:44left. A lot of times people see my
- 0:46story about having narcissistic personality disorder and going
- 0:49to therapy and things like that. They see my story and they
- 0:51wonder how I got to this point. They're like, Lee, how in the
- 0:53hell did you get to the point where you are right now?
- 0:55I was like, you know what, it's time for story time.
- 0:58And see, people tend to like how I tell these stories, right?
- 1:00So me and my wife have been together since the end of 2011,
- 1:05right? We moved in together in 2012 and
- 1:08love bombing all the other good stuff, right?
- 1:11It got to the point where I think what 2017, she ended up
- 1:14leaving short for a short period of time.
- 1:16Then I went to therapy, then she came back or whatever.
- 1:19And then at the beginning of 2020, right when the pandemic
- 1:22had started, things were going back downhill.
- 1:25I had at this point in time, I had already been in therapy for
- 1:28like what, 2 1/2 years, since like 2017.
- 1:31So it's about 2 1/2 years I had been in therapy, right?
- 1:34And when I missed therapy appointments, when I missed
- 1:37back-to-back to back therapy appointments, I had missed from
- 1:39like November to like April, right?
- 1:42And when I'm not in therapy, I don't have that mental check in,
- 1:46I don't have that release. And I, things tend to go
- 1:49downhill from that point. You know what I mean?
- 1:50Things started, I started reverting back to my old toxic
- 1:53waste, my, my silent treatment, my ignoring my just putting her
- 1:57down for no reason. All this stuff started happening
- 2:00again and again and again on a more consistent basis because I
- 2:03was no longer in therapy, right? So I'm getting ready to leave
- 2:10one day. I have an older son, my older
- 2:11son from a previous relationship.
- 2:13He is 17 years old now. And I was taking him home.
- 2:15I was taking him back to his mom's house.
- 2:16And my wife was in the kitchen. She was like washing dishes or
- 2:20cooking or something like that, right?
- 2:21And I seen her in the kitchen. I looked at her and I was like,
- 2:25you know what? She needs a hug right now.
- 2:26Part of my mind says she needs a hug right now.
- 2:29And I was just like, I should give her a hug right now.
- 2:31Just go behind her, give her a hug, let her know I love her.
- 2:34But then a narcissistic part of my mind is like, she doesn't
- 2:37need a hug, she's fine. Take your son home, clear your
- 2:40mind. Hello.
- 2:41OK so I got in the car left right.
- 2:45I got in the car and I drive my son.
- 2:47His mom lives about 40 minutes away.
- 2:49And so I'm driving in Greensboro, NC.
- 2:53So y'all know North Carolina. I'm driving from Hillsboro,
- 2:55Raleigh dorm to Greensboro. It's about 40 minutes, right on
- 2:59the way back, I'm about 5 minutes from the house.
- 3:03I get a message that said, I won't be here when you get home.
- 3:06I'm like, what the hell. Oh, she's going to the store.
- 3:07And I kept reading. It's like this hasn't been
- 3:10working for me with neither one of us.
- 3:12Neither one of us are happy and this isn't going, I'm going to
- 3:15move. I'm going live somewhere else
- 3:16for a while. And then we can split time with
- 3:18our son because we at this point in time, we had like a
- 3:20three-year old, right? He started 3 1/2.
- 3:22We can split time with our son And just this is the I think
- 3:25this is best for both of us. Don't come to don't come to my
- 3:27job. I just need some time alone.
- 3:30I'm panicking. Y'all like what the hell, let me
- 3:31hear me get home. I get home, open the door, stuff
- 3:35is gone. I'm like what the hell.
- 3:37How do I how do I, how did I not notice that she was moving out?
- 3:42Because over the course of a few weeks, I guess she had started
- 3:44donating more stuff, started throwing things away, downsizing
- 3:47because I I used to always complain how she had too much
- 3:49stuff, right? We have little closets.
- 3:50You got too much stuff. Stuff is always in the clothes.
- 3:53You you're packing stuff in. Like what the hell are you
- 3:55doing? Like we like this is this is too
- 3:57much You, you have too many things.
- 3:59Get rid of some of this stuff, right?
- 4:01And she's getting rid of like she's getting and she's getting
- 4:04rid of. I'm like, OK, she's fine
- 4:05listening literally that I know she was downsizing to move out.
- 4:11So I come home, I'm looking through the house.
- 4:13It's empty. Like there's some furniture
- 4:15stuff gone. There is a lot of different
- 4:17things missing pictures off the wall.
- 4:18I'm like what the hell the house is?
- 4:20Y'all know you when you go. This is like you moving into a
- 4:23an apartment or rental house or you bought a house right and
- 4:26it's completely empty. You know how the walls echo?
- 4:29That's how my house was echoing Only thing left there was my my
- 4:32dog Lala, right 'cause I I love my dog right in Lala.
- 4:36We have hardwood floors. So every time Lala walks, you
- 4:39hear Solomon house going crazy. All I hear is I'm like,
- 4:48literally I've been sitting on the couch and it was a tough
- 4:53time, man. I, I knew where she had went,
- 4:55right? She had, she has a bunch of
- 4:57friends, but the friend that lives closest to her that would,
- 4:59that would be able to help her move would be her friend that
- 5:02lives about 20 minutes away. So I was just like, and who was
- 5:04also my friend first. Like I was like, I'm sitting
- 5:09there frustrated. I'm sitting in the I'm like, I
- 5:12need in order to get her back, I need to do everything that she
- 5:16wanted me to do, everything that she's been asking me to do.
- 5:18I'm going to start doing it right now.
- 5:20Just like a narcissist, right? Like she's been asking her to
- 5:23get asking to get a new bed. I'm complaining, complaining
- 5:25about bad prices. So you know, I did, I packed the
- 5:29little bed up. You know how the little, you
- 5:31know how you get these, you know, you get a king mattress, a
- 5:36king. It comes with two separate box
- 5:37springs. So I put both little box springs
- 5:41in the back of a Prius. Somehow I'm back in my Prius and
- 5:43I drove them to like a dump, threw them out, threw them out
- 5:46into the dump. I was like, OK, through the
- 5:48through the big mattress way too.
- 5:49I'm like, OK, perfect bed is gone.
- 5:51I'm telling her I'm like, look, I threw the bed out.
- 5:53We can get a new bed now. Like you always want.
- 5:54You get a new, get a new bed now didn't work, so I got to I'm
- 5:58sleeping on an air mattress in my room now because I have no
- 6:00bed now. Do the look through the little
- 6:02desk out. I'm moving stuff around.
- 6:04I'm raking leaves. I'm doing everything outside,
- 6:06everything that she asked me to do.
- 6:07Just like a narcissist, right? That's how you know, narcissist
- 6:10can be very manipulative and they know what take what it
- 6:12takes to make you happy because when you try to leave him or you
- 6:16threaten to leave, they always know exactly what to do to keep
- 6:19you, right? That's what I was doing.
- 6:23A lot of people ask me like Lee, how the hell you have so much
- 6:26experience with narcissists, know what they're going to do.
- 6:28I've done a lot of this stuff. Not the crazy ass stuff like the
- 6:31beating on. I ain't done no craziness like
- 6:32that, right? But I've done something mostly
- 6:35abusive things, right? I'm just, I've been, I've done
- 6:37that, right? And that's like, it'd be hard to
- 6:43reconcile with it sometimes. You know, I think waking up and
- 6:44doing therapy has helped me out a lot, but it'd be very tough to
- 6:48reconcile with a lot of these different things that I've done.
- 6:50But, you know, thank God for therapy, Thank God for God,
- 6:53right? Thank God for himself, right?
- 6:55But I'm sitting in the house lost because I'm telling her,
- 7:00hey, look, we can get a new bed, new TV, whatever you want to do.
- 7:04We can paint. I know you've been wanting to
- 7:05paint. I can go buy some paint.
- 7:06Just let me know what color you want.
- 7:08And none of that was working. I'm like, none of my moves are
- 7:11working anymore. She had woken up to it.
- 7:12She knew what was going on. She knew I'd been diagnosed with
- 7:14MPD's, You know, the nurses, right?
- 7:16I was like, none of this stuff is working.
- 7:19So I called her friend one day and I was just like, look,
- 7:22what's the percentage chance of me being able to get her back?
- 7:25And she was like 1%. I was like, oh, I thought you're
- 7:28gonna say 0. So 1%.
- 7:29You know, I'm, I'm from the Dumber, Dumber generation where
- 7:31I'm like, so you're telling me there's a chance?
- 7:34I'm like, yes. So I'm like, OK, I got a chance.
- 7:36But I knew I, I knew I needed to revamp the way I approach
- 7:40things, right? So I hadn't remember, I told you
- 7:43at the beginning I had missed a few therapy appointments.
- 7:45So first thing I did get back in therapy or like I'm not going to
- 7:48tell her this, though. I Remember Remember when she
- 7:51left sitting in the bathroom floor, right?
- 7:53I sat in the bathroom floor and there's a mirror on my wall in
- 7:57the bathroom and start crying. I'm looking at myself crying in
- 8:00the mirror just like, what the hell is wrong with you?
- 8:02Just beating myself up. I'm like, you know what?
- 8:04This is it, This is it. Like you, this is a turning
- 8:07point in your life right now. So I'm turning myself in the
- 8:09mirror. I was like, I can go either go
- 8:10one or two ways. I can fight hard as hell to get
- 8:13my wife back, or I can just get on Tinder and just go crazy.
- 8:17The, the narcissistic part of me, like Tinder, it is right.
- 8:20I'm like Tinder, Bumble, all that type of stuff, right?
- 8:22I can go in there. I can go crazy on the map.
- 8:23So like, that's not what I need right now.
- 8:27I need to be I need to be alone, so I got off a bunch of social
- 8:30media right. This is before mental illness
- 8:31existed. Y'all, this is like so I was
- 8:33already on TikTok, but I was doing comedy stuff.
- 8:36You can find my comedy stuff go to TikTok.
- 8:38It's called I am Lee hammock. You see my comedy stuff and back
- 8:40in the day. So I'm doing that type of stuff
- 8:44right. I'm like I'm gonna delete all my
- 8:45Facebook except for my real estate page.
- 8:48I'm getting off of Instagram. I did everything I just like
- 8:50except for TikTok. I'm building that for just for
- 8:53comedy and sketches and skits. So I'm like, OK, I need to do
- 8:55this, this day. So man, I'm doing all this
- 8:58stuff, right? I'm climbing this mountain.
- 9:00I'm doing, I'm like, I need to still work on myself.
- 9:04So I'll schedule therapy appointment.
- 9:06And I told my therapist I haven't I haven't seen my
- 9:07therapist in like 4-5, six months, right?
- 9:09And she was just like, oh, what this is doing COVID.
- 9:12So this is a virtual session. So she was like, so what's new
- 9:15with you? I like well, my wife left and
- 9:21she's like, mom, y'all know what she said?
- 9:25Y'all know what she said? She said.
- 9:27What did you do? What did I do?
- 9:32What do you mean? What?
- 9:34What? What did I do?
- 9:35I didn't do. Nothing.
- 9:35No, I was just like, what I do? I was like, huh?
- 9:37She's like, no, I know you did something because you haven't
- 9:40said I've been. She's like, we've been, I've
- 9:42been, we've been, you've been seeing me for over over 2 1/2
- 9:45years. Like when you don't check in,
- 9:46when you don't come here, I know you're going to revert back to
- 9:49your old behaviors. You've done something.
- 9:50What did you do? I was like, I was just being
- 9:53honest with her. I was just like, I've just
- 9:54became neglectful. I started hearing about this
- 9:57COVID stuff. I'm like, well, life, the world
- 9:58is about to end anyway. So I started falling into a
- 10:00depression. When I got into a depression, I
- 10:02never came out of it. I started neglecting her.
- 10:03I started mistreating her. I started just like yelling and
- 10:05screaming for no reason. I started making her walk on egg
- 10:07shells. I'm like, I've been a horrible
- 10:09husband. I've been probably even worse
- 10:11father. I'm I've been horrible and I'm
- 10:13tired of it. I'm sick of it.
- 10:16And I was just like, I need to make these changes to not even
- 10:20get her back, but to be better. I want to be a better human
- 10:24being. I want to commit to doing being
- 10:25a better human being again. Y'all had already been in
- 10:27therapy for 2 1/2 years at this point, right?
- 10:30I already been in therapy 2 1/2 years.
- 10:31But I, I'll be honest with y'all, I don't think I was
- 10:33taking it as seriously as I needed to at this point right
- 10:36here. I'm like, I'm going to take it
- 10:37seriously. I'm going to take it seriously.
- 10:40I was like, but before I got a therapist session, y'all, I
- 10:42asked her, I asked my therapist. They're like, so how do I get my
- 10:46wife back? And she was just like she
- 10:48straight up said, you can't I like, wait, what?
- 10:51I can't, I can't. She's like she said, let me let
- 10:55me rephrase that. She's like, you can get her
- 10:58back, right? You can get her back.
- 11:01But because you're a good talker, y'all have a kid
- 11:03together, y'all have to see each other.
- 11:04So she's going to miss you. She's not going to fall out of
- 11:06love with you that quickly. So did you have to be in this be
- 11:11be willing to go this way about it, right?
- 11:13You have to be willing to go to go about it and do this type of
- 11:15stuff. I'm like, OK, you got to work on
- 11:18yourself. You got to let her go.
- 11:19If she's going to come back, she's going to come back.
- 11:20If she's not, she's not. I'm like, OK, So what I was
- 11:24doing, I'm to tell how manipulative I was when she
- 11:26would drop my son off. I would have my ring around my
- 11:28neck on a necklace. It wasn't this necklace, but I
- 11:31saw she could see it. She's just like, she's going to
- 11:32see my necklace right here and she's going to know I'm still
- 11:35committed to her because she's my ring right here, right?
- 11:37And I was just like, she go, she came to drop my son after that
- 11:39therapy session. She came to drop my son off and
- 11:41I was just like, Nope, we're not doing that.
- 11:45Tucked it in, talk to her for a little bit and we'll send her on
- 11:47her way. We use normally we, she would
- 11:50drop my son off. I'll be texting her just to stay
- 11:52in contact with her, 'cause in my, in my mind, I was like, I
- 11:54don't stay in contact with her. She's going to go sleep with
- 11:56somebody else. She's going to go be with
- 11:57somebody else. He's going to break my heart
- 11:58even more. So I told myself I was like, no,
- 12:00we're not going to text her. She's gone.
- 12:02She's free. You're free.
- 12:03You can make your own decision. She can make your own decision.
- 12:06Which sucked, which was tough, right?
- 12:08But I was like, I'm going to do it like this.
- 12:10This is how I'm going to do it. This is how I'm going to go
- 12:11about doing this type of situation.
- 12:13Something like, OK, damn, so I get to that point and a couple
- 12:17months ago by doing the schedule, whatever, I'm staying
- 12:20busy. I started reading the Bible.
- 12:21Y'all, I I started reading the Bible.
- 12:23I was so lost to a night. It was so dark and so cold and
- 12:26so lonely in there. Me and me and Lala.
- 12:28I was in there chilling and I literally just like I don't know
- 12:31what else to do. So I literally started reading
- 12:33the Bible on my Bible app. I have it on audible right?
- 12:36I listen to the Bible every single day from I forgot from
- 12:39like May to whenever, you know, later on in the year, it took me
- 12:43like 6 months to read. I was like, man, this is crazy.
- 12:45I read the Bible. I enjoyed every bit of it,
- 12:47right? So I get to that point right
- 12:50there. I'm still struck like, so I
- 12:52eventually I write her a letter where she's living, right?
- 12:55I gave her some months. I've been in therapy, had about
- 12:58a couple, have a few therapy sessions and I asked my
- 13:00therapist like, is it OK if I write her a letter right now?
- 13:02You think it's cool? It's cool.
- 13:03She's like, yeah, she's like you've been good for the last
- 13:05few months. You haven't bothered her.
- 13:06You haven't said anything crazy. You respected her boundaries.
- 13:10Give it a try. So I wrote her a letter and
- 13:13asked to go to marriage counseling.
- 13:14She agreed. We went to marriage counseling,
- 13:16right? And the marriage counselor asked
- 13:19us, you're like, what are your goals?
- 13:22And her goal was to learn how to live a part like she wasn't
- 13:25planning on getting back together.
- 13:26I'm like, what the hell? You agree to come to marriage
- 13:28counseling with before. If you don't want to get back
- 13:29together, what are we doing here?
- 13:31Right? That's what my mom was like,
- 13:32what are we even doing here if you don't want to get back
- 13:35together? And the marriage counselor said
- 13:37it's not always marriage counseling to stay together.
- 13:39Sometimes it's separation counseling and teach you how to
- 13:41live apart. But again, y'all because my my
- 13:45own therapist who was not my marriage counseling, my own
- 13:48therapist said you can't do this just to get her back.
- 13:51You can't try to change her mind.
- 13:52You just have to be the best version of yourself.
- 13:54You have to become the best version of yourself.
- 13:56So doing these marriage counseling sessions when she was
- 13:58literally telling the truth about what had happened in her
- 14:01experiences under the like, this is this is over zoomed, right?
- 14:06I want her to come do it in person like so we can sit beside
- 14:08each other, do it over Zoom so I can talk to her.
- 14:10But she's born to stay where she was at.
- 14:11I know why that's cool, right? Had to respect it.
- 14:16So we get to that point where, you know, marriage counseling,
- 14:19they especially on Zoom, they just mute you and let the other
- 14:21person talk. She's literally hurting my
- 14:24feelings. She's crushing me with stuff
- 14:26that I had actually done. It's stuff that I did right
- 14:29under the camera. I'm writing notes about This is
- 14:32why I did it under the camera. I'm writing down notes about why
- 14:35I did this stuff right, about why this stuff went down, about
- 14:38why this stuff was happening so I can have a rebuttal.
- 14:41But then when it came to my turn to talk, I have my notes.
- 14:44I balled it up and I'll just say, you know what they're like.
- 14:48Lee, what do you think about that?
- 14:49I was like, she's right. I like she is absolutely 100%
- 14:53right. Nothing I like.
- 14:55There's no, no valid reason why I did that type of stuff to her.
- 14:59There's no, there's no excuses. She's completely right at her
- 15:03feelings. She's entitled to feel exactly
- 15:04the way she felt based on my behaviors.
- 15:07The only thing that I can do right now in this session and
- 15:09then for the rest of my life is try my hardest so that type of
- 15:13stuff never happens again. You don't have to live that way
- 15:15anymore. Whether we together or not.
- 15:17I want you to feel comfortable around me, you know, And I think
- 15:20that actually shocked her because she, I think she was
- 15:23expecting me to attack her. I was, but I was just like, I
- 15:27think that shocked her because that next marriage concert
- 15:28session, she had changed her mind.
- 15:30She was like, oh, we can have, we can sit down and have a
- 15:32conversation. But the therapist said, hey,
- 15:34look, if y'all want to try to work this out, you have to get
- 15:36everything out on the table. So we literally had to schedule
- 15:39time for her to come over. Somebody watched my son, my
- 15:41friend to watch our son, and we sat in the backyard for like 3-4
- 15:45hours with a list of things that have happened in the past that
- 15:49was still bothering us that we had to work our way through,
- 15:52that we had to talk about. We literally had to talk about
- 15:54all of this stuff in order to make it work, in order to get
- 15:57through it right. This because you know, one of
- 15:59the main problems in narcissistic relationships is
- 16:01right, that is unfinished conversations, things that have
- 16:06happened that you don't talk about anymore that still bother
- 16:10each other, you still bothers you.
- 16:11Get it all out on the table now because that way it won't come
- 16:14up again if it's resolved. It doesn't come up again unless
- 16:18it's used in a manipulative way. You see what I'm saying?
- 16:21So we had, so we had so many conversations, man, we had so
- 16:23many good conversations out there.
- 16:25And then she you know, we had planned on her moving back in
- 16:28like June or something like that, but she she was like, what
- 16:31do you, she just sent me a message one night, y'all, And
- 16:33she's like, what do you think about?
- 16:34What do you think about me moving back in at night?
- 16:39I loved it, right? So she came back with my son and
- 16:43it was a good time, man, because like it really was right.
- 16:45Seriously, because like what are the hardest times doing?
- 16:47I skipped this part, right? One of the hardest times that I
- 16:50had when she was left was to tell my oldest son who was her,
- 16:55her stepson, like that she was gone, that she moved out, that I
- 16:58had failed him as a dad because I treated his stepmom horribly,
- 17:02and that she had moved out and I cried in front of him, right?
- 17:06That's one of my weakest moments.
- 17:07I cried in the mirror, cried in front of my son.
- 17:09I was like, I'm gonna be better, man.
- 17:10I'm gonna be better. So I've worked from that moment
- 17:12in time to be better. And I told my son I was like,
- 17:15she came back. And he was like, he was so
- 17:17happy. You know, she came back, we were
- 17:19happy. And if you look at look, I, I
- 17:22want TMI, but if you look at the time of the when she moved back
- 17:25in, she tricked me right here. She trapped me like within a
- 17:29couple days of her dream. This is buddy.
- 17:32She's gonna like, she's gonna tell you her.
- 17:34She if y'all have talked to her, she'll tell you a different
- 17:36version of this. But it's my version of the
- 17:38truth. I promise y'all.
- 17:39She moved back in. I already had two kids at this
- 17:42point. I'm like, I'm good with kids.
- 17:45She wanted another one, so she tricked me and we got a vet.
- 17:48She get she told me she was she's like, I'm not ovulating.
- 17:51Guess what? Couple days when she moved back
- 17:53in, she was pregnant. So my daughter did y'all see
- 17:56running around some my videos, my my little girl.
- 17:59Literally you track her, you track her date of conception.
- 18:02It's like within a day or two of her moving back in.
- 18:04And that is not my fault. I promise you.
- 18:05I got look, I got a vasectomy right now.
- 18:07I'm not. It's not happening again.
- 18:08She's not going to give me again unless we talk about it, right.
- 18:11Literally when he got a vasectomy, you know, you
- 18:13treated. No.
- 18:14Yeah, I promise you. You talk to her.
- 18:16I'll get around here. Talk to her.
- 18:17I'll if y'all want me to, if y'all want me to get around
- 18:20here, I'll get over here. Ask her that question right here
- 18:22like what happened and she'll tell you.
- 18:25She'll tell you the truth. You trap me.
- 18:28I know. Because if I tell people that
- 18:29story, they're like, Lee, you Hoover, they're back in, and
- 18:31then you gather, gather, pray with another baby I like.
- 18:33I know It looks like that, doesn't it?
- 18:35But if y'all hear the story from behind the scenes, you were like
- 18:37Lee, OK, we got you. We understand, Lee.
- 18:43But yeah, man, that was, yeah, that was, that's my story about
- 18:45how, you know, how I came home and she was gone and how they
- 18:48altered my perspective on things and how whether or not she came
- 18:51back, I was still going to work on myself.
- 18:55Whether or not she came back as people, I know some people see
- 18:57this video and decide to give your your ex another chance.
- 19:00Don't do that based on this video.
- 19:02Because whether or not she came back, I was still going to work
- 19:04on myself. She can come in here and leave
- 19:06right now. Break on me right now.
- 19:08I would say, look, I would still go to therapy next week.
- 19:11I 100% would 'cause my therapy sessions help me be a better
- 19:15parent, help me be a better human being for my entire family
- 19:19is not just about me, you know what I'm saying?
- 19:22It's about my entire family. But I had I, I have to be
- 19:25selfish with my healing in order to be selfless later on, you
- 19:29know what I'm saying? My therapy journey is not about
- 19:31her. It was not to just get her back.
- 19:33I promise you. I told myself I if it was just
- 19:35to get her back, I could have stayed on Tinder and did all the
- 19:38other sneaky stuff behind the scenes that I didn't do right.
- 19:42So anyway, that's my story. If you like these story times
- 19:44for my real life, I can do more of these.
- 19:46I'm just trying to get more people to click on the videos.
- 19:48People don't click on the videos anymore.
- 19:49Y'all tired hear about narcissism, you hear real life
- 19:51stuff. What do you want to hear on this
- 19:52channel? Cause again, I, I'm moving the
- 19:54podcast, my long podcast to its own channel, the mental hill.
- 19:56This podcast. You want the podcast interviews,
- 19:59please search, go to the bottom of my page, go to my channel,
- 20:02scroll to the bottom, you'll see Mental Illness Podcast.
- 20:04Click on that, subscribe to it and whatnot.
- 20:06You want to see the long interviews from other survivors,
- 20:09thrivers, psychiatrists, therapists, life coaches,
- 20:11whatever. I'm interviewing everybody.
- 20:13You want to be on the channel. You want to be on the podcast.
- 20:15Link is in the description anyways.
- 20:18Hit the subscribe. No, no, if you watch it, if you
- 20:19listen to this on Spotify or Apple, this is still going to be
- 20:22on there. I'm still posting these on
- 20:23Spotify and Apple and the podcast is still gonna be there
- 20:25too. Y'all subscribe on Spotify.
- 20:28You already spittle, there's spittle.
- 20:29Subscribe onto Spotify if you haven't already.
- 20:33Hit the subscribe button over here and I'm out.