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UK Column News Podcast 21st March 2025 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Hello, It's it's Friday, the twenty first of March twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty five, just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host Mike Rumson joining me in the studio
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Speaker 1: today Patrick Hennison, Welcome to the program.
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Speaker 2: Patrick, great to be with you.
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Speaker 1: Mike, and by videolink we have Mark Anderson and Liz Evans.
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Speaker 1: But we're going to begin today with Heathrow and of
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Speaker 1: course one of the world's busiest airports. It's now been
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Speaker 1: closed as the result of what there's described as significant
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Speaker 1: disruption after a far at North Hyde substation in Hayes
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Speaker 1: in West London. Heathrow doesn't seem to be offering a
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Speaker 1: bus replacement service, we note, by the way, but anyway,
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Speaker 1: the fire was reported at twenty three twenty three last
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Speaker 1: night and was eventually brought under control at around six
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Speaker 1: o'clock this morning. Lots of homes in the area, thousands
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Speaker 1: of homes without PARR. But perhaps a surprise to many
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Speaker 1: is that Heathrow Airport is also without par But maybe
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Speaker 1: not such a surprise if we look at the airport's documentation,
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Speaker 1: because PAR supply resistance doesn't seem to be a massive
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Speaker 1: priority for them. But before we get that is, look
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Speaker 1: at flight radar twenty four this morning and we can
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Speaker 1: see a total of no flights if we looked at
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Speaker 1: this the same time yesterday, lots of aircraft around Heathrow Airport.
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Speaker 1: But let's look at this document then, Heathrow Airport's Operational
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Speaker 1: Resilience Plan. Now this is back from twenty fourteen, and
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Speaker 1: as I say, power supply resistance doesn't seem to be
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Speaker 1: a massive priority for them, because this document does not
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Speaker 1: include the words electricity or supply or part or generator
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Speaker 1: or any reference to the topic at all. Well almost
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Speaker 1: no reference anyway. Because it does tell me that components
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Speaker 1: of important applications are split across two primary data centers,
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Speaker 1: and that both data centers have duel par and networking
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Speaker 1: feeds with strict change and access management regimes.
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Speaker 3: And that's it.
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Speaker 1: Nothing about airport lighting, radar, air traffic control, or other
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Speaker 1: flight operations. Nothing said about backup part at all. So
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Speaker 1: this was published in twenty fourteen as a say, maybe
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Speaker 1: the situation has improved since then. Well not really, And
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Speaker 1: we can find out if we go to the Heathrow's
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Speaker 1: net zero plan, and I'm sure you can see where
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Speaker 1: this is going because, of course they're focusing on biomass generators.
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Speaker 1: If we just zoom in on a little bit, twenty
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Speaker 1: twelve they brought in biomass fueled combined heat and park plant.
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Speaker 1: They twenty seventeen they purchased one hundred percent renewable energy,
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Speaker 1: and that's how they've been supplying energy to the airport
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Speaker 1: ever since. And well, solar panels on terminal two, and
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Speaker 1: of course those worked well overnight, didn't they. So continuing
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Speaker 1: work to replace diesel generators, well, that continues to work
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Speaker 1: to be one of their priorities. Now, look, something we've
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Speaker 1: got to the point we've got to make here is
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Speaker 1: that London is one of the one hundred resilient cities.
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Speaker 1: And resilience is one of the key buzzwords of the
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Speaker 1: net zero globalist crowd, and it's in every document they publish.
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Speaker 1: But it clearly means something different to whatever you or
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Speaker 1: I may expect to me. It's And the question then
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Speaker 1: is is this an example of Britain's crumbling infrastructure once
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Speaker 1: again or is there something else going on here? Is
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Speaker 1: it through a lack of investment? Well apparently not, because
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Speaker 1: the CIA, the Civil Aviation Authority was reporting back in
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, in March twenty three point six billion
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Speaker 1: pound investment, which included be ready for this more resilient infrastructure.
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Speaker 1: Well apparently not. So there we go. But don't worry,
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Speaker 1: it's not all bad news. The AI is still up
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Speaker 1: because sorry, we'll just move on to this the Register
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Speaker 1: here reporting that the local commercial data centers at least
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Speaker 1: did have backup part generation capacity. I'm going to say,
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Speaker 1: we're going to need to get used to this, especially
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Speaker 1: anyone who lives anywhere near Starar's amissing AI corronors, because
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Speaker 1: those data centers are the new ones that are about
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Speaker 1: to be built, are going to get first DIBs on
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Speaker 1: any electricity supply, and if there's any limitation, it's going
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Speaker 1: to be homes and other businesses that are going to
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Speaker 1: suffer first. But you know, this looks to me Patrick
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Speaker 1: to be just another great example of net zero in action.
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Speaker 2: We also be careful there's not too many teslas driving
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Speaker 2: around in that vicinity either, because they sort of draw
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Speaker 2: down on the power supply, don't they, Well they do.
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Speaker 2: It's not very sustainable, is it? The whole electric car thing,
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Speaker 2: isn't it?
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Speaker 4: Is it?
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Speaker 1: Not so you know, we have the situation and Liz,
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Speaker 1: let me welcome you to the program. I believe as
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Speaker 1: your husband was halfway across the Atlantic when this happened.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I have a deep personal interest in that because
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Speaker 5: I was expecting him to land at seven this morning.
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Speaker 5: He rang me at seven and I said, oh, you've landed.
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Speaker 5: He said, yeah, but where have I landed? And I said,
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Speaker 5: I don't know, somewhere in England. He went, no, I'm
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Speaker 5: back in Montreal. So he got half way across pretty
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Speaker 5: much exactly, and landed back in Montreal at exactly the
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Speaker 5: time he was due to land in England. And now
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Speaker 5: he's got to do some sort of crazy trip to
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Speaker 5: Paris later tonight and then across on the Eurostar to
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Speaker 5: get back home.
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Speaker 3: So there we go.
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Speaker 1: Why on Earth a piece of critical infrastructure like one
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Speaker 1: of the world's biggest airports did not have back up par.
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Speaker 2: Well, they had biomass. Apparently, what exactly is biomass? By
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Speaker 2: the way, we're talking wood chips, chip reclaimed chip oil
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Speaker 2: from the local fish and chip shop, Like, what is biomass?
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Speaker 2: All those things, Yeah, they're talking about exactly, all those
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Speaker 2: things absolutely silly. So that was a big success. Wasn't
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Speaker 2: it the Green New Deal?
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Speaker 1: It was, indeed, and it continues to be. But let's
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Speaker 1: let's move on to you and I. And you've got
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Speaker 1: an update for us on the Assisted Dying Bill and
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Speaker 1: the question mine is it going to pass?
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Speaker 5: Well, I'm very hopeful actually, especially after a very disastrous
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Speaker 5: committee stage, that in fact it won't pass. But yeah,
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Speaker 5: I'm going to give you an update on the bill.
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Speaker 5: It is the Kim Ledbetter's Terminally Ill Adults end of
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Speaker 5: Life Bill, in case you're not aware, and it's known
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Speaker 5: as the Assisted diag Assisted Suicide Bill more accurately, and
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Speaker 5: you may remember it had its second reading in Parliament
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Speaker 5: on the twenty ninth of November last year. So a
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Speaker 5: lot has happened since then, and there's far too much
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Speaker 5: to cover today, so I'm just going to highlight a
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Speaker 5: few key points and for more detail you can read
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Speaker 5: a recent article that we published on our UKMFA substack,
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Speaker 5: or you can go to the campaign page on our website,
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Speaker 5: which will be in the show notes hopefully. So to
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Speaker 5: start with a bit of background, UKMFA strongly opposes this bill.
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Speaker 5: It violates our fundamental tenet of medical ethics that a
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Speaker 5: doctor should first do no harm. Legalizing doctor assistant suicide
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Speaker 5: would profoundly change the relationship between a doctor and patient
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Speaker 5: and the state and an individual, as death would be
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Speaker 5: sanctioned as a legitimate treatment for suffering and pain. And
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Speaker 5: Hippocrates put strict ethical boundaries around medical practice to guard
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Speaker 5: against doctor induced harm, and this included the doctor's pledge
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Speaker 5: not to administer a poison to anyone when asked to
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Speaker 5: do so, nor to suggest such a course. So last autumn,
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Speaker 5: Dignity and Dying ran a huge public campaign promoting the
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Speaker 5: bill with mass advertising in the media and London underground,
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Speaker 5: and they had celebrity endorsement in the mainstream media, and
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Speaker 5: the message was that this is a compassionate bill with
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Speaker 5: the best safeguards in the world to prevent unbearable suffering
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Speaker 5: at the end of life by offering a quick and
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Speaker 5: painless doctor assisted death to anyone with the terminal diagnosis
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Speaker 5: and fewer than six months to live. However, most palliative
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Speaker 5: care consultants don't support assisted dying and they argue that
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Speaker 5: with high quality palliative care, no one needs to suffer
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Speaker 5: an agonizing or undignified death, and they advocate for more
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Speaker 5: resources for hospices and palliative care services, and those opposed
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Speaker 5: to the bill also cite the real world evidence that
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Speaker 5: a slippery slope is inevitable as eligibility criteria will widen
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Speaker 5: and safeguards will be dropped, that the vulnerable will fill
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Speaker 5: a duty to die for fear of being a burden,
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Speaker 5: and that the reality of an assisted death is often
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Speaker 5: far from painless or quick and can involve significant and
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Speaker 5: prolonged suffering. So on the twenty ninth of November last year,
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Speaker 5: crowds on both sides of the debate gathered outside Parliament,
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Speaker 5: and those of us opposing the bill included disabled rights groups,
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Speaker 5: Christian groups and healthcare professionals. Regrettably, MPs voted the bill
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Speaker 5: through three hundred and twenty five to two hundred and
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Speaker 5: seventy five votes, so the bill moved into the committee
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Speaker 5: stage for further scrutiny and to consider amendments. The third
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Speaker 5: and final vote in Parliament will be on the twenty
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Speaker 5: fifth of April, so not long before it passes into
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Speaker 5: the House of Lords.
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Speaker 6: So the committee.
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Speaker 5: Commenced their hearings on the twenty first of January. They
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Speaker 5: met every Tuesday and Wednesday, and this stage was completed
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Speaker 5: two days ago, despite five more sessions being available before recess.
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Speaker 5: Even the mainstream media have criticized what Laura Dodsworth has
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Speaker 5: called the ghoulish haste and apparent determination of the proponents
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Speaker 5: to rush it through at any cost. So moving on
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Speaker 5: to the committee of MPs selected by Kim Lebbetter, they
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Speaker 5: were heavily weighted in favor of legalizing assisted suicide. There
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Speaker 5: were fifteen to four and eight against. But despite this, yes,
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Speaker 5: the MP's opposed to the bill, but in particularly in
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Speaker 5: particular Danny Krueger, Nasshah and Rebecca Paul, they did a
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Speaker 5: magnificent job of putting led Better and the bill under
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Speaker 5: intense scrutiny and challenge. They submitted multiple amendments to try
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Speaker 5: to rectify huge flaws in the bill, but nearly all
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Speaker 5: of those amendments were rejected. So moving on to Kim Ledbetter,
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Speaker 5: she had promised a rigorous scrutiny of her bill, but
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Speaker 5: the committee stage has raised serious concerns about bias and
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Speaker 5: a marked dilution of safeguards. Watching the discussions revealed that
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Speaker 5: legislating for a safe system of doctor assisted dying is
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Speaker 5: a can of worms of extraordinary complexity, many who initially
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Speaker 5: supported the bill and now expressing alarm at the reality
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Speaker 5: which has been laid bare. Over the last seven weeks,
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Speaker 5: it became clear that the bill is riddled with holes
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Speaker 5: and is unworkable. It simply cannot be made safe to
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Speaker 5: prevent co worst or wrongful deaths. But worse still, Ledbetter
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Speaker 5: and her colleagues appeared to lack the will or desire
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Speaker 5: to tighten the bill's safeguards, and instead, one by one,
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Speaker 5: crucial safeguards were removed or rejected, and the slippery slope
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Speaker 5: that US campaigners had warned about played out in real
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Speaker 5: time before the bill is even passed into law. So
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Speaker 5: Ledbetter showed a worrying lack of respect for the democratic process.
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Speaker 5: Her committee initially met in private to discuss which expert
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Speaker 5: witnesses to call, which prevented public scrutiny, and the witnesses
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Speaker 5: they called were heavily skewed in favor of the bill. Unbelievably,
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Speaker 5: the committee initially voted not to hear evidence from the
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Speaker 5: Royal College of Psychiatrists, despite their vital role in ascertaining
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Speaker 5: capacity and assessing for coercion. There was a public outcry
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Speaker 5: which forced led Better to uturn and give the Role
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Speaker 5: College an opportunity to give evidence. Then no witnesses were
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Speaker 5: called to represent disabled rights, and again public pressure and
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Speaker 5: action by disabled rights groups led to another u turn
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Speaker 5: and Disability Rights UK were finally called to give evidence,
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Speaker 5: but other vital voices such as the British Geriatric Society
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Speaker 5: and even the government's Chief suicide Prevention Strategy advisor have
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Speaker 5: not been allowed to give evidence. The involvement of a
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Speaker 5: High Court judge was sold to the public and wavering
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Speaker 5: MPs as the strongest safeguard in the world, so it
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Speaker 5: was appalling that it was quickly dropped in the committee stage,
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Speaker 5: considered unworkable as it would overload the court system. This
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Speaker 5: massive change to the bill outraged opponents, and a group
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Speaker 5: of twenty six Labour MPs issued a statement expressing their disgust,
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Speaker 5: calling it another broken promise, showing how haphazard the process
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Speaker 5: had become. It was replaced with a three person assisted
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Speaker 5: Dying Review panel consisting of a lawyer, social worker and
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Speaker 5: psychiatrist and overseen by a Voluntary Assisted Dying Commissioner. Yet
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Speaker 5: no impact assessment was offered or evidence that the panel
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Speaker 5: would be workable, and already eminent psychiatrists and the British
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Speaker 5: Association of Social Workers have warned that their professions don't
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Speaker 5: have the capacity to populate these panels. The operation of
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Speaker 5: the panel is opaque. Kim Ledbetter admitted that the panel
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Speaker 5: is neither a judicial entity or a court, so evidence
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Speaker 5: will not be under oath. Danny Krueger has pointed out
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Speaker 5: that it will also not provide a clinical assessment of
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Speaker 5: the applicant and is therefore a quasi multidisciplinary team at
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Speaker 5: the wrong stage in the process and for the wrong purpose.
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Speaker 5: And they're moving onto the panel requirements. They are meager
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Speaker 5: and inadequate, and this was pointed out by Sir James
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Speaker 5: mumby a retired High Court judge. They are only mandated
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Speaker 5: to hear from one of the two doctors and the patient,
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Speaker 5: but they are not required to question either. All this
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Speaker 5: will be done remotely by video or even audio link.
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Speaker 5: Then an amendment was rejected to give a family a
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Speaker 5: legal right and route to give evidence or share concerns
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Speaker 5: with the panel, and this means that family members are
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Speaker 5: completely excluded from the process, which is very sinister. They
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Speaker 5: don't even have to be informed appealing the panel's decision,
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Speaker 5: only works one way. The patient can appeal if their
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Speaker 5: application is not granted. However, if it is granted, a
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Speaker 5: third party who disputes the decision cannot appeal. This slide
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Speaker 5: show some examples of the multiple safeguarding amendments which the
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Speaker 5: committee rejected. They also voted against excluding people with anorexia,
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Speaker 5: down syndrome, autism and learning difficulties, and from preventing doctors
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Speaker 5: from raising the option of assisted suicide with sixteen and
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Speaker 5: seventeen year olds. Even an amendment requiring applicants to be
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Speaker 5: referred to a palliative care consultant was rejected, and an
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Speaker 5: amendment requiring a doctor to ask the applicant why they
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Speaker 5: are assisting as seeking an assisted death was rejected. Supporters
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Speaker 5: of the bill argued it would infringe the person's autonomy
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Speaker 5: to take a legal course of action. Rachel Hopkins stated
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Speaker 5: it was basically none of their business. We agree with
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Speaker 5: Danny Krueger that this diabolical bill must be halted. The
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Speaker 5: third and final parliamentary vote is on the twenty fifth
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Speaker 5: of April. Only around thirty need to change their vote
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Speaker 5: to defeat the bill, so we are urging the public
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Speaker 5: to contact theirp asap to urge them to vote no,
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Speaker 5: and there are useful template letters on several campaign group websites,
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Speaker 5: and better still asked for a meeting to discuss your concerns.
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Speaker 5: I'm going to give the last word to Danny Krueger,
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Speaker 5: who made the powerful point that this will not just
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Speaker 5: enable a small group of people access to a doctor
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Speaker 5: assisted death, but instead we'll impose on everyone. This new
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Speaker 5: reality will change life and death for everyone, introducing the
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Speaker 5: idea that our individual worth lies in our utility, valuable
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Speaker 5: for only so long as we are useful, not a burden,
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Speaker 5: not a cost, not making a mess.
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Speaker 3: Thanks, thank you. Liz Patrick.
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Speaker 2: You got a question, Yeah, Liz, where does the Do
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Speaker 2: you know where the Church of England or the Catholic
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Speaker 2: Church stand on this issue? If so, how's anybody voiced
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Speaker 2: any of their concerns from the clergy sorry, of that community.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a really good question. My son's actually a
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Speaker 5: Catholic school and last year I was really heartened. In
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Speaker 5: November I went to a service in their abbey and
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Speaker 5: there was a statement from the Catholic Church out on
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Speaker 5: the front for people to pick up a leaflet basically
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Speaker 5: expressing their strong opposition to this and I think, you know,
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Speaker 5: I think most Christian I haven't checked the Church of
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Speaker 5: England position recently, but I'm pretty sure that they are
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Speaker 5: against it as well. So very much the Christian groups
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Speaker 5: like Christian Concern the Christian Institute have been running big
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Speaker 5: campaigns against this.
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Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, Liz, thank you very much.
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Speaker 1: Let's be joining us for extra after the program, so
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Speaker 1: we'll be talking about this a bit more than I'm
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Speaker 1: quite sure.
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Speaker 3: Mark. Let me welcome you to the program.
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Speaker 1: And well, big news from the United States this week
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Speaker 1: has been the release of the latest batch of documents
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Speaker 1: on JFK's assassination.
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Speaker 7: Oh absolutely, And I've got some basics just to kind
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Speaker 7: of lay the groundwork on this. I've seemingly been covering
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Speaker 7: a lot of JFK lately. Back November twenty ninth, late
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Speaker 7: last year, I had covered a conference virtually in Dallas,
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Speaker 7: and then I talked about JFK again February twenty eighth,
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Speaker 7: after the February twenty first death of Clinton Hill, the
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Speaker 7: Secret Service agent that jumped on the back of the
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Speaker 7: Kennedy limos. So here we go again with Kennedy stuff.
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Speaker 7: Now this first slide, just to lay the basics here
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Speaker 7: putting it on the screen. Going back to this one's
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Speaker 7: from the National Archives. This is the official announcement of
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Speaker 7: twenty twenty five documents release in accordance with President Trump's
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Speaker 7: directive March seventeen, twenty twenty five. As of that date,
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Speaker 7: the directive was longer ago January twenty third. I believe
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Speaker 7: all records previously withheld for classification that are part of
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Speaker 7: the JFK Assassination Records collection are released. The National Archives
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Speaker 7: has partnered with agencies across the federal government to comply
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Speaker 7: with executive order issued.
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Speaker 6: In latter January number one four one seven six.
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Speaker 7: As of March eighteenth, just a couple of days ago,
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Speaker 7: the records became available to access either online via the
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Speaker 7: National Archives or you can actually go in person to
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Speaker 7: College Park, Maryland. And one of the complaints that I've
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Speaker 7: heard so far, including from David Denton, an Illinois professor
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Speaker 7: and JFK researcher that heads up the JFK historical group
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Speaker 7: that gave that conference that I covered last November, there's
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Speaker 7: no search engine and there's really no annotation. There's not
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Speaker 7: a lot of categorizations, so it's just a huge spew
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Speaker 7: of data that's very onerous and time consuming to go through.
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Speaker 7: That's one of the things that's the reality right now.
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Speaker 7: But supposedly there's going to be a search function and
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Speaker 7: a better organized way of looking through the files. The
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Speaker 7: government is promising that, So we'll move on and look
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Speaker 7: at this for just a moment. What it consists of,
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Speaker 7: mainly generally speaking, is Section ten of the JFK Assassination
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Speaker 7: Records Collection Act of nineteen ninety two. That's kind of
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Speaker 7: the basis of it. It addresses information under court seal
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Speaker 7: or for grand jury secrecy, that's part of the data dump,
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Speaker 7: and Section eleven of that same Records Collection Act addresses
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Speaker 7: records with tax return information, et cetera, et cetera. And
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Speaker 7: on the eighteenth of March at seven pm Eastern time,
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Speaker 7: there was thirty two thousand pages or a little over
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Speaker 7: eleven hundred pdf files released, and then later that same day,
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Speaker 7: eighteen of March, thirty one four hundred pages and again
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Speaker 7: almost eleven hundred pdf files, So in total it's sixty
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Speaker 7: three four hundred pages that were released. So it's a
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Speaker 7: quantity thing. It's only a question of the quality and
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Speaker 7: what I've been hearing so far from a couple of researchers,
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Speaker 7: not just mister Denton, that I've talked to, is that
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Speaker 7: it's not likely, at least it doesn't appear likely that
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Speaker 7: it's going to lead to any smoking gun or any
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Speaker 7: major breakthroughs. It's a lot of miscellaney, it's a lot
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Speaker 7: of things about the Cold War, a little bit about Vietnam.
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Speaker 7: But one thing I did get from David Denton, and
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Speaker 7: we'll put this up is that under the twenty twenty
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Speaker 7: five release, the agency being the FBI, the Professor Denton
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Speaker 7: sent me this yesterday when I talked.
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Speaker 6: To him on the phone. Mark Lane, the.
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Speaker 7: Noted researcher who brought out a pretty penetrating book not
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Speaker 7: long after the events in Dallas. He was put under surveillance,
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Speaker 7: as that slide indicates he was speaking in Switzerland promoting
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Speaker 7: his work, and the CIA their approval was needed. They
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Speaker 7: were surveilling people that were investigating the events in Dallas
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Speaker 7: and second guessing the warrant commissions. So the CIA had
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Speaker 7: him under under surveillance. And then there was another document
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Speaker 7: that mister Denchin shared with me, and this one had
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Speaker 7: to do with an author by the name of Thomas Buchanan,
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Speaker 7: and this was actually from an earlier release of JFK files.
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Speaker 7: We need to remember there were several releases, I believe
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Speaker 7: twenty seventeen and one or two subsequent to that, prior
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Speaker 7: to the one that just happened this past this week.
22:38
Speaker 7: So authors, according to Professor Denton, authors that were looking
22:44
Speaker 7: into this thing early on, were put under intelligence surveillance.
22:49
Speaker 6: And it also.
22:51
Speaker 7: Came out that a Gary Underhill, also named as John
22:55
Speaker 7: Garrett Underhill, he was a CIA asset, an agent. He
23:01
Speaker 7: made his name and you might say cut his teeth
23:04
Speaker 7: during the World War II era, which was the earlier
23:07
Speaker 7: version of the CIA, before the CIA was officially created
23:10
Speaker 7: in nineteen forty seven.
23:12
Speaker 3: And he.
23:16
Speaker 7: Felt that there was CIA involvement in the Dallas retirement
23:20
Speaker 7: plan quote unquote of JFK, and he felt it was
23:25
Speaker 7: a click or a faction within.
23:27
Speaker 6: The CIA, not the CIA as a whole. At least
23:30
Speaker 6: that's what's being reported.
23:32
Speaker 7: But there's a memo in the new data dump that
23:35
Speaker 7: strongly suggests that Gary Underhill was silenced by the CIA
23:40
Speaker 7: itself and supposedly committed suicide in his Washington apartment due
23:46
Speaker 7: to the knowledge he had of this supposed click within
23:49
Speaker 7: intelligence that might have had something to do with the
23:51
Speaker 7: Kennedy affair, and he was known to be right handed,
23:55
Speaker 7: but reportedly the self inflicted gunshot wound was behind his left.
24:01
Speaker 7: That's one of the documents or one of the revelations
24:04
Speaker 7: that that's making the biggest stir right now is the
24:06
Speaker 7: case of Gary Underhill.
24:09
Speaker 3: So these are some.
24:10
Speaker 7: Of the things surveilling authors that we're looking deeper into
24:14
Speaker 7: the affair. The Gary Underhill caper also of interest. And
24:21
Speaker 7: from there, Larry Hancock, a noted JFK expert and author.
24:28
Speaker 7: I haven't heard much of his stuff, but he has
24:31
Speaker 7: something very interesting to say. He's talking about the fact
24:35
Speaker 7: that yes, over sixty three thousand pages were released, but
24:40
Speaker 7: in this video, what he'll explain is that there are
24:42
Speaker 7: private collections that we may never see. And people always think, well,
24:47
Speaker 7: the National Archives has all the answers, they've gathered everything,
24:51
Speaker 7: But according to Larry, who's pretty respected in his field,
24:54
Speaker 7: that's not the case.
24:55
Speaker 6: There are private.
24:56
Speaker 7: Collections and many things that are off the grid, not
25:00
Speaker 7: available and may never be available. And maybe we can
25:03
Speaker 7: listen at this point as to what he had to say.
25:06
Speaker 8: Officially, with this release, it's done because the whole collection
25:13
Speaker 8: that was, you know, all the agencies, everybody that did
25:17
Speaker 8: the investigation and inquiry did it and sent it to NARA,
25:21
Speaker 8: the National Archives. One document that does not include some
25:26
Speaker 8: twenty three hundred either documents or pages. We're not sure
25:31
Speaker 8: yet because they didn't say that. The FBI found a
25:36
Speaker 8: couple of weeks ago and said that they were giving
25:38
Speaker 8: to NARA that had not been part of the collection before.
25:42
Speaker 8: So what we've seen so far is material that was
25:45
Speaker 8: already at NARA. Beyond that, we could give you a list.
25:49
Speaker 8: We've actually prepared a list of dozens of files and
25:54
Speaker 8: dozens of pieces of material that could be collected that
25:59
Speaker 8: might help result of the question, but that's not part
26:02
Speaker 8: of this. So what we really need there would have
26:05
Speaker 8: to be a reset to collect new information. That's not
26:09
Speaker 8: what we're getting now.
26:14
Speaker 7: So, as you can see, there's a lot to be learned,
26:20
Speaker 7: not only because the existing data dump is hard to navigate,
26:24
Speaker 7: but there's many other things that we may never see,
26:27
Speaker 7: or at least it would require extra effort, maybe an
26:30
Speaker 7: Act of Congress whatever to get these additional items, because
26:34
Speaker 7: it's really a qualitative matter, not a quantitative matter. Yes,
26:38
Speaker 7: we can look at documents about Martin Luther King, Yes,
26:41
Speaker 7: about Vietnam War machinations, all sorts of things, plots by
26:47
Speaker 7: the mob to kill Castro and poison in which is
26:49
Speaker 7: supposedly in the late reportedly in the latest data dump.
26:54
Speaker 7: All these things are a course of interest curiosity. But
26:58
Speaker 7: if we don't get to the core of what really
26:59
Speaker 7: happened on Dallas and November twenty second, nineteen sixty three,
27:03
Speaker 7: then it's just more misdirection, throwing a bone to researchers
27:08
Speaker 7: so they can chew on it for a while, and
27:09
Speaker 7: so on and so forth. So we Americans have to
27:13
Speaker 7: demand quality, not quantity, and perhaps follow what mister Hancock
27:17
Speaker 7: is suggesting and get these things that we otherwise might
27:19
Speaker 7: not see.
27:20
Speaker 6: So with that, I think Patrick has some things to add.
27:24
Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, it brings up a couple of important points
27:26
Speaker 2: we're going to segue on. And first of all, what's
27:29
Speaker 2: important to understand is what's been dumped or what Trump
27:32
Speaker 2: has signed to release is actually just a small percentage
27:36
Speaker 2: of the total amount that came through the nineteen ninety
27:40
Speaker 2: two JFK Act or the Records Collection Act, so that
27:45
Speaker 2: we're not seeing everything and there's still a lot that's there,
27:47
Speaker 2: even on the government side. So that's the first thing.
27:51
Speaker 2: The other thing is this, and this is the gets
27:54
Speaker 2: to the core of the JFK debate. You've got the
27:56
Speaker 2: who and the how. You know, who pulled the trigger,
28:00
Speaker 2: how was he killed? Was it two shooters, three shooters,
28:02
Speaker 2: one shooter? But then you have another question, which is
28:05
Speaker 2: the why, the why and the motivation behind it. And that,
28:09
Speaker 2: to me personally, is the most fascinating one. And I
28:12
Speaker 2: think we have quite a bit of evidence in this
28:15
Speaker 2: dump that inadvertently or not points to the why, to
28:21
Speaker 2: the motivation behind this. Now, I'm going to share this
28:24
Speaker 2: clip with you. This is from a c SPAN clip
28:27
Speaker 2: from a few years ago. This is Martin Sandler. He
28:30
Speaker 2: is the author of Letters to JFK. He's talking about
28:34
Speaker 2: some of the things that he discovered in his book
28:38
Speaker 2: back then that absolutely corroborates the evidence that we found
28:42
Speaker 2: in these files as well. That many of them, by
28:45
Speaker 2: the way, have already been accessible, so these aren't all
28:49
Speaker 2: classified documents that Trump has signed to release. But anyway,
28:53
Speaker 2: listen very closely to this clip.
28:57
Speaker 4: There's a very surprising series of letters between Kennedy and
29:02
Speaker 4: David Ben Gurion, not only the Prime Minister Premiere of Israel,
29:06
Speaker 4: but the founder of Israel in which they're very angry
29:10
Speaker 4: letters in which uh Kennedy is saying to Ben Gurion,
29:16
Speaker 4: I'm killing myself trying to get a nuclear test band treaty.
29:20
Speaker 4: I've even got the gall on board, and that's impossible.
29:23
Speaker 4: And you keep testing in Demona. You've got to stop.
29:27
Speaker 4: And been brilliant. Ben Gurion, thank you in so many words,
29:33
Speaker 4: says it's easy for you to say, sitting in Hyannisport,
29:36
Speaker 4: I'm sitting with the Arabs all around me, and you
29:38
Speaker 4: want me to give up NUC nuclear testing. And Kennedy
29:42
Speaker 4: threatens him, and he threatens him in such a way
29:44
Speaker 4: that Bengurian resigns. And I will tell you that I
29:48
Speaker 4: found articles not in any cor crack crack pot publications,
29:53
Speaker 4: but in very sophistic publications saying, forget Lyndon Johnson, forget
29:58
Speaker 4: the CIA. For yet Fidel Castro la Massade killed Kennedy
30:03
Speaker 4: because they were so upset over what he did to Benngurian.
30:08
Speaker 2: Now that's quite something, Mike. So right after David Bengurion,
30:12
Speaker 2: prime Minister of Israel, resigned, very soon after John F.
30:16
Speaker 2: Kennedy was murdered. Okay, so the timeline of that is
30:18
Speaker 2: quite compelling. Now let's go up and look at some
30:21
Speaker 2: of the evidence that has surfaced and also just people's
30:24
Speaker 2: comment on it. This is Annia Parampil here. She's an
30:27
Speaker 2: excellent journalist and what she's saying here is quite striking.
30:31
Speaker 2: When JFK's mistress, Mary pinchrot Meyer was murdered in nineteen
30:34
Speaker 2: sixty four, and it goes on to point to this
30:37
Speaker 2: Wiki leaks, and Wiki Leaks has been going through these
30:40
Speaker 2: documents as well. James Heesus Angleton, top CIA officer working
30:46
Speaker 2: almost exclusively for and on behalf of the State of Israel,
30:50
Speaker 2: and that's what we find in here Israeli intelligence service.
30:55
Speaker 2: And again these are pinned on my timeline, so you
30:58
Speaker 2: can go to at twenty one wire see some of
31:00
Speaker 2: these documents. But this is one of many mentions of
31:04
Speaker 2: Israeli intelligence in context of the John F. Kennedy assassination.
31:10
Speaker 2: So this was a thing at the time and it
31:13
Speaker 2: does pop up. And there are obviously other documents that
31:16
Speaker 2: we aren't going to have privy to on this, and
31:19
Speaker 2: that's just for starters. We'll go on here. Here's another one.
31:22
Speaker 2: Take a closer look here at this particular document here,
31:25
Speaker 2: and this is from this is an interesting letter, Mike.
31:27
Speaker 2: This is from this about the Chicago Mob. And a
31:30
Speaker 2: lot of people aren't aware that Kennedy he was meant
31:33
Speaker 2: to visit Chicago, but that trip was canceled, likely possibly
31:37
Speaker 2: because of security threats. There may have been a chatter
31:41
Speaker 2: about a possible attempt on his life with them through
31:44
Speaker 2: the mob. Okay, and they say, quote here, we now
31:47
Speaker 2: have plenty of money and our new backers are Jews,
31:50
Speaker 2: meaning Israeli's probably and as soon as quote we or
31:54
Speaker 2: they take care of Kennedy. So it's right there in print.
31:58
Speaker 2: So that's that's the talking basically. And these were cables
32:03
Speaker 2: basically disseminating that information. So this is highly interesting. And
32:08
Speaker 2: here's more other mentions here of Israeli intelligence and we'll
32:13
Speaker 2: bring in another document here. And so the story gets
32:17
Speaker 2: very interesting at this point, and you can kind of
32:19
Speaker 2: see that there's a lot more going on behind the
32:22
Speaker 2: scenes between the United States, the Soviet Union, and Israel
32:27
Speaker 2: because Khrus Jeff at the time, you have to remember,
32:31
Speaker 2: wasn't particularly massively pro Israel, but was also trying to
32:35
Speaker 2: work with Kennedy on this nuclear test pend treaty so
32:38
Speaker 2: and Israel was holding it up basically. So that's quite
32:42
Speaker 2: another interesting one. Here's another fire worth looking at here,
32:47
Speaker 2: unredacted Church Committee exposes CIA's secret role in atomic weapons transfer,
32:52
Speaker 2: arming Israel with nuclear technology against JFK's wishes. Here the
32:56
Speaker 2: unredacted files reveal that mister James Hayesus Angleton from the
33:00
Speaker 2: CIA confirms that atomic technology or knowledge was transferred to Israel.
33:05
Speaker 2: And again you have to go through a lot of
33:07
Speaker 2: these documents to try to parse out what you're looking
33:10
Speaker 2: for here, but this is really the piece still a resistance, Mike,
33:14
Speaker 2: if there's any further questions, what do we have here?
33:18
Speaker 2: James Hayesus Angleton from the CIA in the head of
33:21
Speaker 2: massat Global Operations Mayor Emmett in nineteen sixty six, posing
33:26
Speaker 2: in a kind of dubious cowboy outfit there. I'm not
33:28
Speaker 2: sure what that was all about, but suffice to say,
33:33
Speaker 2: Mike that Angleton was what. They had a forest named
33:36
Speaker 2: after him in Israel. After he died, he was almost
33:39
Speaker 2: given somewhat of a posthumanist state funeral, not unlike another
33:45
Speaker 2: super spy Robert Maxwell, but heyesus Angleton was a gentile.
33:52
Speaker 2: He wasn't Jewish like Maxwell. So this is very odd. Now,
33:56
Speaker 2: so there's a great documentary film. We're going to play
33:59
Speaker 2: a clip called neumech Is by Ryan Dawson, an independent
34:02
Speaker 2: documentary film. This is just a very small snippet, Mike,
34:06
Speaker 2: But let's go ahead and listen carefully.
34:08
Speaker 9: Here, despite the well established and well known precedence of
34:14
Speaker 9: Zionist smuggling and stealing boatloads of armaments from the United States,
34:19
Speaker 9: and the indisputable evidence of Israeli intelligence agents regularly meeting
34:23
Speaker 9: with Zalman Shapiro in Pennsylvania, a dedicated and committed Zionis
34:28
Speaker 9: with ties to the Israeli government, as well as hundreds
34:31
Speaker 9: of kilos of highly enriched uranium being reported missing from
34:35
Speaker 9: New Mech and unaccounted for the highest out of every
34:39
Speaker 9: commercial plant in the United States, and Israel having a
34:43
Speaker 9: covert nuclear program which they lie about at every turn,
34:48
Speaker 9: undermined inspections of, and the very suspicious samples at Demona
34:52
Speaker 9: of highly enriched uranium that was measured with scientific certainty
34:56
Speaker 9: which the Israelis by themselves could not develop, the notion
35:00
Speaker 9: that highly enriched uranium was diverted from the United States
35:03
Speaker 9: to Israel was challenged.
35:08
Speaker 2: So the evidence of this is overwhelming, and we'll put
35:11
Speaker 2: up on screen here this is the documentary film that
35:13
Speaker 2: we assured you. This clip film is called New Mech.
35:16
Speaker 2: It's about this nuclear facility in Pennsylvania, but also the
35:19
Speaker 2: bigger plot of the Israel's Israeli secret nuclear weapons program.
35:23
Speaker 2: And to this day it's undeclared, so they're completely exempt
35:28
Speaker 2: from any international inspections or anything like that. But you
35:31
Speaker 2: can watch that film on Rumble for free. It is
35:34
Speaker 2: a fantastic, very well researched piece, and I have it
35:38
Speaker 2: on very good authority from veterans within the intelligence services
35:42
Speaker 2: Mike in America that the data and the information in
35:46
Speaker 2: Numech this film is solid. Okay, So this isn't We're
35:51
Speaker 2: not in the realm of conspiracy theory here. We're into
35:53
Speaker 2: the realm of conspiracy facts. And the case overwhelmingly points
35:58
Speaker 2: and I think it will be increasingly so that there
36:01
Speaker 2: is a very high probability that the motivation doesn't matter
36:05
Speaker 2: who pulled the trigger, whether it was the Italian mob,
36:07
Speaker 2: the Jewish mafia, or the CIA or some Cuban stooges. Okay,
36:13
Speaker 2: what was really behind that? The motivation to get rid
36:16
Speaker 2: of JFK ultimately is coming from the Israeli interests. Okay.
36:21
Speaker 2: He also wanted Israel to register with FARA as a
36:24
Speaker 2: foreign agent for the lobby I pack at the time.
36:28
Speaker 2: And of course that all went away after Kennedy was
36:30
Speaker 2: killed and no more talk about the nuclear weapons program.
36:34
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, Lyndon Baines Johnson, the president
36:38
Speaker 2: that assumed control of the White House after Kennedy was killed,
36:43
Speaker 2: was involved looking the other way with the USS Liberty
36:45
Speaker 2: incident during the Sixth Day War when Israel attacked and
36:49
Speaker 2: almost sunk nearly sunk but killed over I don't know,
36:53
Speaker 2: forty odd US sailors and cold blood during the Sixth
36:57
Speaker 2: Day War and then denied it. Basically to this day,
37:00
Speaker 2: they still don't want to acknowledge really what happened that day.
37:03
Speaker 2: So again, a lot of behavior changes in policy happened
37:07
Speaker 2: after Kennedy was killed. And again that's a circumstantial case
37:12
Speaker 2: that I think you can build. Certainly, it's very strong,
37:16
Speaker 2: you know who done it? Sort of narrative here that
37:20
Speaker 2: I think we'll get more and more interesting as time
37:22
Speaker 2: goes by.
37:22
Speaker 1: Okay, well, we'll keep an eye on that. But sixty
37:26
Speaker 1: thousand documents to be trolled through. This is just taking
37:31
Speaker 1: the lit off the first few that have been seen
37:33
Speaker 1: so far, so plenty more to see. I'm quite sure.
37:36
Speaker 2: There's enough out there. I think if you connect the
37:38
Speaker 2: dots now, a lot of things will make more sense.
37:41
Speaker 2: So and again that might be inadvertent or intentional. Who
37:45
Speaker 2: knows it. I'm not saying it's five d chess by Trump,
37:48
Speaker 2: but now there's a lot of people visibly panicking the
37:53
Speaker 2: fact that people are talking about this now supporters of Israel.
37:57
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying it's very interesting to observe of
38:00
Speaker 2: the different reactions to this information.
38:03
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Speaker 2: No major case, major case and got huge political implications,
40:02
Speaker 2: major headlines as well. This is the case of Mahmoud Khalil.
40:07
Speaker 2: He is a Palestinian activist who was going to school
40:12
Speaker 2: at Ivy League School in the United States and has
40:14
Speaker 2: been arrested and is scheduled to be deported based on
40:18
Speaker 2: his participation in campus protests on behalf of the Palestinians.
40:23
Speaker 2: You would call them anti genocide protests, pro human rights,
40:27
Speaker 2: pro Palestinian, but the government, the Trump administrations calling them
40:31
Speaker 2: pro Hamas protests. Of course, it's all about how you
40:34
Speaker 2: frame it. Of course, we'll bring up up on the
40:37
Speaker 2: screen here. This is a Guardian op ed I was
40:40
Speaker 2: actually published yesterday, two days ago. This is from Mahmoud
40:44
Speaker 2: Khalil himself. He says, I am a Palestinian political prisoner
40:48
Speaker 2: in the US. I am being targeted for my activism.
40:52
Speaker 2: He is a graduate student from Columbia. Here he's been
40:55
Speaker 2: sent to Louisiana, Mike away from New York City, kidnapped
40:59
Speaker 2: from his family and then locked up in Louisiana, schedule
41:03
Speaker 2: for deportation at the phest of Marco Rubio, the Secretary
41:07
Speaker 2: of State. So now there's been an appeal, it's in
41:10
Speaker 2: the courts. Now judges halted the deportation. So we're into
41:14
Speaker 2: the judicial process. So we'll see. Let's look at some
41:18
Speaker 2: of the statements that he's made though up on screen
41:20
Speaker 2: here this is a quote from him that he said
41:24
Speaker 2: within this article. Of course, we bring that up on screen,
41:28
Speaker 2: the quote oh there we are, yes, the quote there,
41:31
Speaker 2: and so this is what he says. My arrest was
41:34
Speaker 2: a direct consequence of exercising my right to free speech.
41:37
Speaker 2: As an ad I advocated for free Palestine and an
41:41
Speaker 2: end to genocide in Gaza, which resumed in full force
41:44
Speaker 2: on Monday night this week has resumed. Israel's resumed the
41:48
Speaker 2: bombing of refugee camps in Gaza. He says, it is
41:52
Speaker 2: our moral imperative to persist in the struggle for their
41:55
Speaker 2: complete freedom. Now I've labeled him a Palestinian political prisoner
42:00
Speaker 2: in the US because by international law he is a
42:03
Speaker 2: political prisoner. Because there is no they cannot prove any
42:06
Speaker 2: criminal case against him, and US officials have admitted there
42:10
Speaker 2: is no criminal evidence of any crime being committed. It's
42:14
Speaker 2: all basically guilt by association or a political labeling here,
42:18
Speaker 2: and he goes on the Trump administration is targeting me
42:21
Speaker 2: as part of a broader strategy to suppressed dissent. Visa holders,
42:26
Speaker 2: green card carriers, citizens alike will all be targeted for
42:29
Speaker 2: their political beliefs. So it's very hard to argue what
42:33
Speaker 2: he's saying here. And so this is where the debate
42:37
Speaker 2: is right now, and we'll show you what some of
42:39
Speaker 2: the other people are saying. But just understand, let's get
42:41
Speaker 2: the facts here of who Mamood Khalil is. Okay, So
42:45
Speaker 2: he's a human rights activist and a protest mediator accused
42:49
Speaker 2: by the Trump administration of being quote pro hamas is
42:52
Speaker 2: being detained by immigration agents as we speak. A thirty
42:57
Speaker 2: year old Palestinian born in a refugee camp in Syria.
43:00
Speaker 2: So his family was pushed out of a historic Palestine
43:04
Speaker 2: during the Knakba of nineteen forty eight. He is a
43:07
Speaker 2: child of one of these families. So that's a very
43:09
Speaker 2: interesting profile. Masters graduate from Columbia University, I think International
43:14
Speaker 2: Studies coincidentally, the head of his department and someone making
43:19
Speaker 2: the case against him is a former Israeli intelligence agent,
43:23
Speaker 2: a female, which is coincidental, I guess, so to speak.
43:27
Speaker 2: But we'll see green card holder married to a US
43:30
Speaker 2: citizen who is also eight months pregnant with their first child.
43:33
Speaker 2: So this isn't an illegal alien, and this isn't someone
43:37
Speaker 2: on a student visa. He is there as a legal
43:40
Speaker 2: resident of the United States. So this is kind of
43:43
Speaker 2: an interesting case. And we'll go on here to mention
43:46
Speaker 2: he happens to be this is interesting. A former employee
43:50
Speaker 2: the British Embassy in Syria, which is located in Beirut,
43:53
Speaker 2: obviously because the US and the British embassies were kicked
43:56
Speaker 2: out or left Damascus after the uprising in twenty two twelve,
44:00
Speaker 2: and he was administering the Chevening Scholarship program, which is
44:05
Speaker 2: a very kind of prestigious British sponsorship of certain political
44:10
Speaker 2: or artistic or thought leaders or influencers. That's the way
44:14
Speaker 2: I look at the Chevening Scholarship.
44:17
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's buying people's loyalty to Britain really in many ways.
44:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like USCID has a lot of
44:24
Speaker 2: these programs. The British Council does not uncommon between the
44:27
Speaker 2: US and Britain or the EU for that matter, to
44:30
Speaker 2: basically try to back and sponsor talent or people. So
44:34
Speaker 2: he was definitely on side with US and UK on
44:37
Speaker 2: the Syrian issue and probably pro regime change in Syria.
44:41
Speaker 2: That's buying the buy. I did not find any evidence
44:44
Speaker 2: that he's a spy, but there's a lot of accusations
44:47
Speaker 2: of that online or that he is involved in the
44:50
Speaker 2: regime change operation itself in Syria. I did not find
44:54
Speaker 2: any evidence. But even if I did, Mike, even if
44:56
Speaker 2: I did, that would not change the material importance of
45:00
Speaker 2: this case. And this case is really about the First Amendment.
45:05
Speaker 2: And this is speaking of the First Amendment. Here's a
45:07
Speaker 2: constitutional expert basically saying here that removing foreign students for
45:14
Speaker 2: supporting terrorism. This is Adam Kissel, I suppose an expert
45:19
Speaker 2: on the issue of constitutional law. He's dropped the link
45:23
Speaker 2: here from the Heritage Foundation, and so yeah, he's all
45:27
Speaker 2: about free speech, due process in the constitution. He's got
45:30
Speaker 2: the flags US and Israeli flags, and his bio also
45:33
Speaker 2: Christian Cross. Interesting, but here's a journalist that Elon boosts
45:37
Speaker 2: here who really wants this person? His name is Nick
45:40
Speaker 2: so Terry is one of Elon's favorite journalists. He's saying
45:43
Speaker 2: that this is about participating in criminal pro Hamas riots
45:47
Speaker 2: and that we need to remove these people from our country.
45:53
Speaker 2: They're charged with crimes and we need to send them
45:55
Speaker 2: all back. Basically, so pro Palestinian demonstrations are are now
46:00
Speaker 2: pro Hamas or pro terrorist riots, and these are people
46:04
Speaker 2: who hate our country. So to support Palestine means you
46:08
Speaker 2: hate America, according to a lot of people on the right.
46:11
Speaker 2: That's got four and a half million views, four point
46:13
Speaker 2: six million views there. So that's the state of journalism.
46:16
Speaker 2: Mike and I just have to remind people that even
46:19
Speaker 2: if you're an illegal alien in the United States, you're
46:22
Speaker 2: protected by the US Constitution. You're protected by the First Amendment.
46:27
Speaker 2: You can say whatever you want under the First Amendment,
46:30
Speaker 2: as long as you're not yelling fire in a crowded
46:33
Speaker 2: theater and citing violence or providing material support for a
46:36
Speaker 2: terrorist organization. I can see how those would be a
46:40
Speaker 2: falling foul of the law. But the purpose of the
46:42
Speaker 2: US Constitution is to restrain the government. To restrain the government,
46:47
Speaker 2: so the government cannot, cannot prevent you from exercising those rights.
46:53
Speaker 2: And this is where a lot of people conservatives and
46:55
Speaker 2: people on the right, just like people on the left
46:58
Speaker 2: who were canceling people during the Biden administration and under Obama,
47:03
Speaker 2: calling for people to be canceled and to be deported
47:06
Speaker 2: for their speech for the January sixth protests, the same
47:10
Speaker 2: people on the right who were victims of this type
47:13
Speaker 2: of cancelation and woke behavior are now attacking people who
47:18
Speaker 2: are supporting the Palestinian issue and calling for them to
47:21
Speaker 2: be deported. Totally against the First Amendment. So I think
47:25
Speaker 2: a lot of people Republicans and people in the right
47:27
Speaker 2: don't understand their own constitution and they're really making a
47:31
Speaker 2: sort of political position on this. And it's so funny.
47:35
Speaker 2: There is woke as the left, So we're calling this
47:38
Speaker 2: Mike the woke right, the woke right as woke in
47:41
Speaker 2: fact worse than the left because they're total hypocrites because
47:45
Speaker 2: they themselves have been targeted with this sort of political
47:48
Speaker 2: authoritarian speech control, and now they're doing it against people
47:54
Speaker 2: they don't like on behalf of a foreign country Israel,
47:57
Speaker 2: which I find to be highly bizarre. But then again,
48:00
Speaker 2: that's just how things are today in America.
48:04
Speaker 3: Are we going to play this a little tip?
48:05
Speaker 2: Oh yes, just sorry, I forgot about that video. So
48:09
Speaker 2: this goes to show you how ridiculous the charges are.
48:13
Speaker 2: This is a conversation between the MPR journalist and one
48:16
Speaker 2: of the Trump administration officials on this.
48:20
Speaker 10: So what how did he support hamas? Exactly what did
48:23
Speaker 10: he do?
48:25
Speaker 11: I think you could see it on TV right, it's
48:28
Speaker 11: this is somebody that you know, we've invited and allowed
48:32
Speaker 11: the student to come into the country, and he put
48:36
Speaker 11: himself in the middle of the process, so basically through
48:38
Speaker 11: Palestinian activity.
48:40
Speaker 10: So what is the standard? Is any criticism of the
48:43
Speaker 10: Israeli government a deportable offense?
48:46
Speaker 12: I Like I said, I think that at this point,
48:49
Speaker 12: when he was injured into the country on a student disa,
48:54
Speaker 12: at any point we can go through and evaluate what
48:57
Speaker 12: his status is. And that's a great estate.
48:59
Speaker 10: Any criticism of the United States government a deportable offense
49:03
Speaker 10: is protesting a deportable offense.
49:07
Speaker 12: Like I said, you're focused on protests. I'm focused on
49:10
Speaker 12: as a visa process. So he went through a legal process, came.
49:13
Speaker 10: Into saying that he lied on his application. He's a
49:16
Speaker 10: lawful permanent resident married to an American citizen.
49:20
Speaker 12: I think if he would have declared he for Harris,
49:21
Speaker 12: we would have never let him in.
49:25
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, well, I mean for me, it's case closed.
49:28
Speaker 2: I mean they're completely out of order on this, the
49:30
Speaker 2: Trump administration, Marco Rubio, the press, the right wing press,
49:34
Speaker 2: Fox News, and everybody else completely and in fact, they're
49:38
Speaker 2: doing more damage to the US Constitution and the rule
49:41
Speaker 2: of law in America and the First Amendment freedom of
49:44
Speaker 2: speech than anybody right now.
49:46
Speaker 3: Well, yes, that is true.
49:49
Speaker 1: The UK, though, must be well up there in many
49:51
Speaker 1: many ways similar kinds of activities going on here. But
49:54
Speaker 1: let's have a look at the litist on the Online
49:56
Speaker 1: Safety Actors, of course, came into force officially this week,
50:00
Speaker 1: and as we've been warning about for months, the final
50:03
Speaker 1: switching on of the Online sifty Act has already had
50:06
Speaker 1: a massive chilling effect on freedom of speech in the UK.
50:09
Speaker 1: Dozens of smaller online forums have shut the doors this
50:12
Speaker 1: week for good, because, as I've been reporting, the administrative
50:16
Speaker 1: burden on them is equal for everyone providing so called
50:20
Speaker 1: user to user services, whether you're a billion dollar corporate
50:24
Speaker 1: like meta Reddit or x or whether you're a small
50:26
Speaker 1: independent news organization like the UK column or whether you're
50:29
Speaker 1: a totally voluntary run online forum. And one of the
50:33
Speaker 1: first to go is this organization Microcosm, which is a
50:36
Speaker 1: forum hosting platforms. This organization was hosting a lot of
50:41
Speaker 1: other small interest group based forums and so they've been
50:47
Speaker 1: taken out. And one example is the Hamster forum, So
50:52
Speaker 1: anyone that's interested in Hamsters has been closed down. But
50:57
Speaker 1: they've decided to move on to Instagram and four into
51:00
Speaker 1: the arms of metas moderation regime. So because they can't
51:03
Speaker 1: afford to run a moderation regime that OFCOM would consider acceptable,
51:09
Speaker 1: they've shut down their forum and they've headed off to
51:11
Speaker 1: Instagram into the arms of the big corporates. It's not
51:15
Speaker 1: just in the United Kingdom. In Finland, Lemmi dot zip
51:19
Speaker 1: forum is blocking access to anybody that lives in the
51:22
Speaker 1: United Kingdom so that they are not falling under the
51:25
Speaker 1: auspices of OFCOM and OFCOM itself. Its position is really
51:30
Speaker 1: pretty obscene. The costs of complying, they say, are likely
51:34
Speaker 1: to be negligible or in the small thousands at most,
51:38
Speaker 1: So this is just a massive disconnect here. Voluntary groups
51:43
Speaker 1: don't have small thousands to pay for this kind of compliance,
51:47
Speaker 1: and they don't have the people that are qualified to
51:51
Speaker 1: provide this kind of compliance. And I just find this
51:54
Speaker 1: situation absolutely obscene because small organizations, voluntary organizations, can unity
52:00
Speaker 1: groups being forced into the arms of the big tech companies,
52:03
Speaker 1: to the big tech regime. While at the same time
52:07
Speaker 1: we have hts posting snuff videos on a daily basis
52:11
Speaker 1: from Syria on x and on Meta and on other
52:14
Speaker 1: platforms with no problems apparently from Offcom.
52:19
Speaker 2: Not only that, they get a glowing visit from Adelina Behbach,
52:23
Speaker 2: the German Foreign Minister, for their efforts of running a
52:28
Speaker 2: program in Syria. But this is a clear case, Mike,
52:31
Speaker 2: of the government using legislation to force compliance, and that
52:36
Speaker 2: compliance that's going to cost a lot more money than
52:39
Speaker 2: most of the people targeted can afford. So I mean,
52:42
Speaker 2: there should be a class action lawsuit here against Offcom
52:46
Speaker 2: if everybody got together, but.
52:48
Speaker 3: It might be happening.
52:49
Speaker 2: That's not but it shouldn't happen. It shouldn't happen. It's
52:53
Speaker 2: just utterly ridiculous that, you know, a voluntary forum would
52:57
Speaker 2: have to fall under after being free and being allowed
53:01
Speaker 2: to talk for thirty plus years in some cases thirty
53:06
Speaker 2: years of free speech and all of a sudden in
53:08
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Oh, we're going to shut that speech
53:11
Speaker 2: down unless you pay thousands to go into this moderation regime.
53:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't think anybody interest. I
53:18
Speaker 1: don't think the Hobster form was likely to have HTS
53:21
Speaker 1: activists on there.
53:22
Speaker 2: But anyway, unbelievable.
53:24
Speaker 1: Absolutely no. We were talking about readiness twenty thirty on Wednesday.
53:29
Speaker 3: You've gotten update on this.
53:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well we thought twenty thirty was going to be
53:33
Speaker 2: the year of the Great reset, right, Mike. Well, they've
53:35
Speaker 2: changed it. They're doing a work around here. It's readiness
53:38
Speaker 2: twenty thirty. As you know, Ursul of Underlin's warning, Europe
53:42
Speaker 2: must rearm and plan for readiness for twenty thirty. This
53:46
Speaker 2: is when the clock is going to run out for civilization. Yes, apparently,
53:50
Speaker 2: so we need to mobilize all of our resources for
53:53
Speaker 2: twenty thirty. How are they going to mobilize all that
53:56
Speaker 2: money and that capital and that investment. How are they
53:59
Speaker 2: going to do that? Well, it's interesting, we did little
54:02
Speaker 2: research here and the EU is planning to use the
54:06
Speaker 2: savings of citizens across the European Union to collateralize it
54:12
Speaker 2: their savings, to use that and activate that savings, mobilize
54:17
Speaker 2: that savings. Ten trillion euros in fact of total savings there,
54:22
Speaker 2: so the EU covet savings to invest in its rearm
54:26
Speaker 2: Europe plan. You go down here, this is at twenty
54:28
Speaker 2: first century wire dot com. We've got the document, Mike's
54:32
Speaker 2: the Savings and Investment Union. As you can see, very colorful,
54:36
Speaker 2: happy clappy marketing. See the little piggy bank there, that's
54:39
Speaker 2: you and I. We are just a citizens savings piggy bay.
54:44
Speaker 2: So they're talking about basically a type of a bail
54:47
Speaker 2: in basically, so they're going to use here's the document.
54:50
Speaker 2: They're going to use everybody's savings and they're going to
54:53
Speaker 2: weaponize it in order to pay for three hundred and
54:56
Speaker 2: fifty billion euros per year to mobilize to help Europe's
55:01
Speaker 2: defense and to create investment flows. As Ursula Vanderline says,
55:06
Speaker 2: in there to be unused savings. They're calling it unused
55:10
Speaker 2: because it's in your account or Joe Public's account is unused.
55:15
Speaker 2: So this article is basically saying get your money out
55:18
Speaker 2: of European banks asap, because what happens if there's a
55:21
Speaker 2: financial crisis, what happens. This is like glass Deegle lifting
55:26
Speaker 2: Glass Diagle, kind of on steroids. So they're really taking
55:30
Speaker 2: one of the last barriers out, which is that your
55:33
Speaker 2: personal savings is no longer your personal savings. It's going
55:37
Speaker 2: to be collectivized across the European Union. Now, if they're
55:40
Speaker 2: allowed to get away with this, I'm sure this idea
55:43
Speaker 2: might be coming soon to other countries. And this is
55:46
Speaker 2: exactly what they're saying for the Green New Deal. We
55:49
Speaker 2: need to unlock those pensions, We need to unlock these
55:52
Speaker 2: funds and these sort of entitlement funds, because they're not
55:55
Speaker 2: doing anything. The money is just sitting in accounts, collecting
55:57
Speaker 2: interests for the people. How greedy of them. We use
56:00
Speaker 2: it to save the planet and to invest in green tech,
56:03
Speaker 2: to start this green revolution, to rearm Europe with green technology.
56:08
Speaker 2: This is the same exact script. It's one crisis, same script.
56:13
Speaker 2: Next crisis is Ukraine, same script twenty thirty. Unlocked the
56:19
Speaker 2: savings and potential, unlocked the pensions. It's exactly the same.
56:24
Speaker 2: These people have no new ideas and so as long
56:28
Speaker 2: as there's a crisis, they're going to go for whatever
56:30
Speaker 2: they can get.
56:31
Speaker 13: Their hands on. Kleptocracy, call it what you want. Yes, Mark,
56:36
Speaker 13: let's bring you back onto the program. We're going to
56:38
Speaker 13: end with Japan on vaccinations.
56:43
Speaker 6: Yeah, a very interesting and troubling situation.
56:46
Speaker 7: This is from the Children's Health Defense and it came
56:48
Speaker 7: out just yesterday twenty March, after three children died within
56:53
Speaker 7: twenty four hours of routine vaccines, Japanese researchers are sounding
56:57
Speaker 7: the alarm. Written by Michael Radakas, PhD, citing the deaths
57:02
Speaker 7: of three Japanese children within twenty four hours of receiving
57:05
Speaker 7: routine childhood jabs. The authors of a peer reviewed study
57:10
Speaker 7: are calling for a reevaluation of the quote risks and
57:14
Speaker 7: benefits of currently approved vaccines and also a review of
57:18
Speaker 7: the childhood vaccine schedule. Childhood vaccination schedule. So we'll move
57:23
Speaker 7: on from there. This is from the COCHD, citing that
57:27
Speaker 7: study the need for validation of vaccination programs. The authors
57:34
Speaker 7: of this peer reviewed study as noted, calling for a
57:37
Speaker 7: reevaluation of the risks and benefits of currently approved vaccines.
57:41
Speaker 7: The study published March fourteen in Discover Medicine by doctor
57:45
Speaker 7: Kenji Yamamoto, a cardiothoraphic surgeon at Akamurro Memorial Hospital in
57:51
Speaker 7: Japan also addressed the increase in post vaccination adverse events
57:58
Speaker 7: following the introduction of NA COVID nineteen vaccines in Japan.
58:03
Speaker 7: So these deaths are causing quite a stir and we
58:08
Speaker 7: also have some other critical information here. I'll cite this
58:12
Speaker 7: just to make sure we get it right. This is
58:14
Speaker 7: breaking news. Basically, the risk of immunodeficiency associated with frequent
58:19
Speaker 7: messenger RIBU nucleic acid mRNA vaccinations, which aren't really standard vaccinations,
58:25
Speaker 7: has become increasingly evident, leading to the widespread discontinuation of
58:30
Speaker 7: additional doses except in Japan. Reevaluation of vaccination programs, including
58:36
Speaker 7: live attenuated vaccines, is crucial. Recently, those three cases of
58:40
Speaker 7: children dying a day after routine vaccinations were reported in Japan,
58:45
Speaker 7: but despite detailed information including autopsy findings, so called experts
58:50
Speaker 7: concluded that a causal relationship with vaccination could not be
58:54
Speaker 7: ascertained or could not be evaluated. So there's resistance going
58:58
Speaker 7: on in terms of of attributing the deaths of the
59:02
Speaker 7: children to vaccines and therefore carrying out a more thorough
59:08
Speaker 7: cautionary policy regarding vaccines and reevaluating the whole vaccine process.
59:14
Speaker 7: But anyway, much more could be said. Times getting a
59:17
Speaker 7: little tight today. One of the things that was cited
59:23
Speaker 7: in the study. This is from the study the growing
59:25
Speaker 7: evidence of immunodeficiency risks associated with frequent m andory vaccinations
59:31
Speaker 7: has led to the global discontinuation of additional doses, Japan
59:35
Speaker 7: being the exception. The decrease in immunity can be caused
59:39
Speaker 7: by several factors such as the spike, protein, libid, nanoparticles,
59:43
Speaker 7: and so on. But one of the things that came
59:46
Speaker 7: out Mike and Patrick as I read through this was
59:50
Speaker 7: now they're thinking that the rise of measles and other
59:55
Speaker 7: illnesses that are being reported might actually stem from vaccinations
1:00:00
Speaker 7: to some degree. So now they're talking about measles vaccinations.
1:00:05
Speaker 7: They're talking about increasing cases of the measles in Texas
1:00:09
Speaker 7: and elsewhere around the world, and there's at least some
1:00:12
Speaker 7: evidence being cited, some of it may be a little
1:00:15
Speaker 7: tentative in this study that the recurrence of measles such
1:00:19
Speaker 7: as it is might be from vaccinations themselves. So a
1:00:23
Speaker 7: lot more is going to come out about this. It
1:00:25
Speaker 7: just came out yesterday, since it came out from Children's Health.
1:00:29
Speaker 7: Defense will hope that Robert F. Kennedy, now the head
1:00:32
Speaker 7: of Department of Health and Human Services, that he'll take
1:00:36
Speaker 7: notice of this, that he'll take heed of it. But
1:00:39
Speaker 7: this could lead to significant reevaluation and significant scrutiny of
1:00:47
Speaker 7: the vaccination regime that so far has caused such misery
1:00:51
Speaker 7: and harm and death across the world ever since the
1:00:53
Speaker 7: COVID scam. So we'll see where this goes, but I'm
1:00:57
Speaker 7: sure there'll be much more in the days and weeks ahead.
1:01:00
Speaker 7: Keep a close eye on it.
1:01:02
Speaker 2: Just one note, what's interesting is that the symptoms for
1:01:06
Speaker 2: measles are also identical to some of the exact symptoms
1:01:10
Speaker 2: of adverse reactions from some of these vaccines, which I
1:01:14
Speaker 2: think is worth pointing out. And you know, the only
1:01:17
Speaker 2: the m RNA. People need to look a lot closer
1:01:19
Speaker 2: at the mRNA technology because it has not it's been
1:01:23
Speaker 2: able to skirt any kind of regulatory framework through the
1:01:27
Speaker 2: Emergency Use authorization And the only immunity that's being provided
1:01:33
Speaker 2: by m RNA is the immunity from prosecution for these
1:01:36
Speaker 2: companies pushing it. It is no proof at all clinically
1:01:40
Speaker 2: or otherwise that these mRNA vaccines do what they say
1:01:44
Speaker 2: or what they claim that they are supposed to be doing.
1:01:47
Speaker 2: There's absolutely nothing. They've been giving almost a carte blanche
1:01:51
Speaker 2: because of COVID, and they still have the same emergency
1:01:54
Speaker 2: use authorization. So you have people like Robert Malone and
1:01:56
Speaker 2: running around saying I'm the inventor of m RNA, but
1:02:00
Speaker 2: the inventor of what exactly, Because as far as I
1:02:03
Speaker 2: could see, that product was dead on arrival before COVID,
1:02:07
Speaker 2: so was Moderna as a business, and all of a sudden,
1:02:09
Speaker 2: as if by magic woo, with the emergency authorization, m
1:02:14
Speaker 2: RNA everywhere. So I mean people need to attack the
1:02:17
Speaker 2: technology and say does it actually do what they claim
1:02:21
Speaker 2: that it does, because that's also a big problem in
1:02:23
Speaker 2: all of this. People are dazzled by this idea of
1:02:26
Speaker 2: m RNA tech, but it's not really proven tech at all,
1:02:29
Speaker 2: and so meanwhile it's called it potentially is causing harm
1:02:33
Speaker 2: to millions of people. What a disaster.
1:02:36
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And of course starget and also the AI programs
1:02:41
Speaker 1: in the UK are.
1:02:44
Speaker 3: Linked to the use of mr and A it's all
1:02:46
Speaker 3: predigad personalized medicine. Oh yeah, miracle tech, miracle cure for concers.
1:02:50
Speaker 2: They're calling it miracle technology.
1:02:52
Speaker 1: Undoubtedly we will talk about this in Extra in a
1:02:54
Speaker 1: couple of minutes time. I'm going to say thank you
1:02:56
Speaker 1: very much, Patrick, Mark and Liz. We will be back
1:03:00
Speaker 1: if you're a UK cole member for Extra in a
1:03:01
Speaker 1: couple of minutes. As a say otherwise, have a great
1:03:04
Speaker 1: weekend and we will see at one pm as usual
1:03:07
Speaker 1: on Monday. See you then, Bye bye.