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#34 | Kiya Vance [Word of Mouth] · Corpus Christi Originals Podcast

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  SPEAKER_02: What's going on, y'all?
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  SPEAKER_02: Copus Christi Originals.
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  SPEAKER_02: This episode features Kaya Vance of Word of Mouth.
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  SPEAKER_02: Kaya hit us up on Facebook and all the other podcasts on Facebook to try to interview him or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_02: Anyways, we got him on the show, so here he is.
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  SPEAKER_02: Appreciate you guys.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hope you enjoy the show.
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  SPEAKER_02: Live.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Appreciate the joining the show, Kaya.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for coming on to the show.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we were introduced through, I guess, one of your posts or something like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Facebook.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, through Facebook.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Facebook.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for sure, for sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, welcome to the show, man.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, what's uh what's what's been going on with you?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: So uh, well, most most commonly, like my day-to-day, I'm in the studio.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, I've been making with my friends, you know, shout out Zodie, shout out Coda, 4.7, all that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we've just been pretty much every day in the studio making a song, making an album, like graphic design via editing, like whatever it is, you know, we're just doing it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, but other than that, we've been uh we just had an event at the House of Rock for New Year's Eve.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was like 200 plus people, more or less.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was like 250 if I had to be generous.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was a blowout.
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  SPEAKER_00: We had uh we had Alexis and Her Vatos, which is a new band on the scene, but honestly, they might be the best.
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  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, they blew me away.
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  SPEAKER_00: I they gave me tears, but you know, it was crazy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, that show was amazing.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was a really uh important one because it was like our second time doing a New Year's Eve show, and our drummer and one of our my my rap friends named Dylan Lee, they came from out of state.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like one came from Virginia, one came from New Mexico.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, my piano player who's from Sweden just left.
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  SPEAKER_00: He left, so we had to like figure it out, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it was it was crazy.
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  SPEAKER_00: It worked out.
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  SPEAKER_00: We recorded the set, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it was it was nice.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's cool, man.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So so a lot of people want to know who you are, man.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, we we we seen you popping up on our on our feed.
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  SPEAKER_02: You just we were just on uh several podcasts.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, like, who are you, man?
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, who are you?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm Kay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, my real name is Razael, but everyone calls me Kayak just because Razael's hard to say, but uh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So basically, I was born in San Antonio, raised in Dallas, um, lived in Houston for a very little amount of time.
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  SPEAKER_00: But as for Corpus, I've been in here for like seven, eight-ish years, like maybe nine years, and I started off by playing classical guitar, and I had this teacher named Mr.
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  SPEAKER_00: He.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he's actually, I mean, people watching might know Mr.
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  SPEAKER_00: He, but he's like an actual prodigy, like among prodigies.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, he could have been one of the best guitar.
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  SPEAKER_00: He is one of the good best guitar players, but he could have been recognized.
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  SPEAKER_00: But he decided to teach and said, you know, yeah, and you know what I'm saying?
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  SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, he taught me and he taught me a lot of things.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, before him, actually, there was a teacher named Mr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Justice, and he taught me jazz, he taught me about gigging and like how to talk to restaurants and how to like just be carry yourself as a musician.
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  SPEAKER_00: But those two that knowledge combined really led me to event making, and you know, I eventually I just became a rapper.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I love rapping, that's my thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I love guitar as well, but I realized that guitar I couldn't fully express myself.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was good, I was really good, but it was just like it was missing something, like you know, yeah, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: After I learned how to rap, uh, I started trying to find shows, you know, and it's like it's easy to find a gig when you're a guitar player and you're playing fucking classical music.
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  SPEAKER_00: But when you're when you're uh a rapper and you're saying stuff like yo, yeah, forget the government, whatever, you know, like saying some contracts.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: They don't want you, like I'm literally wearing protect black black and brown kids.
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  SPEAKER_00: Shout out Pragax Plot.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right on, right on.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, they don't like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I've uh I got fed up with it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the people that did like it, they were paying me cents.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I was making them thousands of dollars, like when I say thousands, I mean like tens of thousands of dollars consistently, and they're paying me cents, like$15.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, here you go, here's$15.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
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  SPEAKER_01: So I got sick of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I got sick of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I just decided to do my own um, you know, my own events, DIY.
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  SPEAKER_00: So our first one was at my uh my friend's uh my friend Dylan Lee, his garage.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we just like put on Snapchat.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is before we knew anything about anything.
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  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, we hit on Snapchat, hit all our friends up, and we're like, yo, we're gonna have a little performance.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we got um, I mean, at this point, because of my my jazz and his classical background, I knew a lot of musicians, like top-tier musicians.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I hit up my favorite musicians, Ali Velasquez.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, he's from he's from what's it called?
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  SPEAKER_00: San Juan, Puerto Rico.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's one of the best.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's uh yeah, he's one of the best.
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  SPEAKER_00: He played like four times for Jazz Fest this time, this upcoming, but uh yeah, he's crazy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then I had uh Gilly, who I mentioned uh well before the camera was rolling.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, he's uh from Switzerland, and he's an amazing talent, amazing keyboardist.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then I had uh Panda, who I mentioned before, he's from Virginia.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I kind of had the Justice League in this motherfucker.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I had Marvel, so I mean, and then we're just playing in a garage.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, so it's like it's such a weird dichotomy because like some of the best musicians in the world and me, you know, I'm not gonna call myself that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then uh on the other hand, we're in a garage with like we're you know what I'm saying?
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  SPEAKER_00: With like yeah, yeah, it's weird, it's just a weird thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: But we had like 50 to 60, maybe 70 people in and out watching that show, oh, that performance, and it was like we had practiced three times beforehand.
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  SPEAKER_00: None of us had really known each other, but we practiced three times, and we did two one-hour sets, recorded it, put it on Instagram, and people ate it up.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, it was unbelievable.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like the amount of love that was honestly one of my favorites.
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  SPEAKER_00: But after that, I got the love for it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was like, damn, I can do this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't need a I don't need a I don't need like this is me, like I can do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I went to uh this place called Water Street Village.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's gone now, it's gone.
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  SPEAKER_00: Unbelievable.
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  SPEAKER_00: But hey, it is what it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: It used to be a venue, and like a lot of shops and vendors used to go there and sell their product.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was like a little shopping center.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure everyone knows, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, so basically we did a show there, and the first one did not go good.
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  SPEAKER_00: It started raining, it was cold, and people still showed up.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, like, let me tell you the story real quick on that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is that we promoted it, promoted it like Snapchat like last time, and we're like, yo, this can be the biggest thing, and it started raining hard.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm not sure if you remember last year, like this time last year, pretty much, it was raining hard and it was cold, and you know what I'm saying?
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  SPEAKER_00: It was just like, oh, no one's gonna go, no one's gonna come.
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  SPEAKER_00: But we're like, you know what?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like something in my mind was like, let's just do it anyways.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we did it anyways, and literally a hundred people came.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was like a hundred adults, grandmas, kids, like teenagers, rappers, musicians, like any it was a diverse community, and that's like that's a common thing within our groups, is it's diverse, not just in skin color, but in mindset.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like diverse, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: And after that, so that was like a test run.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was like, oh, that's amazing.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that leads me to the New Year's Eve.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we had a New Year's Eve event and we recorded it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So basically, that super team that I had from the first event came, but now I had now we have uh this guy named Patrick, who is like one of the more popular mariachi band uh trumpet players in town.
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  SPEAKER_00: So like I'm sure you've if you've if anyone follows mariachi at all, I'm I know for a fact you've seen him because he's everywhere.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know what I'm saying?
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  SPEAKER_00: He's like yeah, he's everywhere in this in the state, but yeah, we got him because again, he's friends with us, and then um excuse me, and then uh we had this sound guy named Zachary.
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  SPEAKER_00: Shout out Zachary because he's a he's a real one.
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  SPEAKER_00: This man is like like I'm I don't want to hype these people up, but like straight up, he's like one of the best sound people I've ever heard.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he's from uh I think he's from Austin, and he just happened to be visiting for New Year's Eve, and he was like, yo, what are y'all doing?
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  SPEAKER_00: And we're like, we're having a gig.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he was like, Yo, I can record the entire thing for you in the highest qualities, and I can do sound for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he did it for like that's that was a thousand-dollar job that he did, and we did it for free.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, and by the way, all the events that we're doing are for free, like to run at least.
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  SPEAKER_00: So he recorded the set, put it on Spotify, and you know, if y'all want to check it out, check it out.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's amazing.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it was, you know, yeah, but that that was like the moment that made Kaya.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was like there's a lot of things in my past that okay, that's me.
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  SPEAKER_00: But after that night, it was like, this is who I am.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am the person that's like walk on the stage, and it's like you and it's like it's hard to explain unless you're there.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it's like I walk on the stage and it's like silence.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like everyone's like, okay, and then I go, and then the but the band plays, and everyone's crying and they're screaming.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like you know, Bobby Glory.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's like, and that's that's the myth of Kaya.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_00: And so after that, I took a break, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: I stopped, I was like, okay, this was good, this was amazing, but it's not the best.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I see other people doing what I want to do, and they're doing it better, like objectively.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I'm not, you know.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: So in the next few years, I uh, you know, I test drive, I was going to different venues and being like, hey, we just did this, you know, can we do it here?
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_00: And we'll do it there, we'll get 100 people, 200 people, da da da da da.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_00: But I realized that we're getting the same kind of people, and we talked about that kind of you know, a little bit.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_00: We're getting the same kind of people, so we're getting the same like musicians, even though it was diverse, it was the same people.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_00: So me and my friend Logan and my friend Daniel, so Logan is a genius, literally a genius.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and Daniel's also a genius, and uh, you know, they're my friends, and they, you know, they were there for me.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I put co-founders because they helped me like bring, I wouldn't have this shit without them.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_00: But they were like telling me it's like, yo, if you're gonna, if you want to be this Kai advanced, if you want to be like J.
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  SPEAKER_00: Cole Con, whatever, even you know, if you want to be that legend, whatever, then you need to have everybody, not just my group, not just people who like my music.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, what we started doing is uh having chess tournaments and poetry nights and like video game tournaments.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we started with chess night, and we we had no I play chess, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was just we just picked the thing that we like, so it wasn't like anything crazy, yeah.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, like but we just picked chess night and then um we went to Cafe Calypso downtown, which is now relo relocated.
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  SPEAKER_00: Shout out Cafe Calypso, shout out Marcy, they're amazing.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but yeah, we went to we had a chess night there, and we weren't expecting we were expecting like 10 people, you know, it's chess, like we weren't expecting much.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_00: 60 people.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure if you've been to a cafe, like about uh uh cafe calpso, but it's small, like maybe 50 people they can fit in there, and we had 60 people playing chess off the bat, like and it was it was crazy, it was like it was unbelievable.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like everyone was stressing.
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  SPEAKER_00: We put on a whole tournament, and real quick, it's like I'm not sure if anyone's run a chess tournament before.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is stressful.
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  SPEAKER_00: I thought music was stressful, chess night, and everyone's and then you get those people who lose to a kid, and they're all like you cheated or whatever, you know.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's like it's like it's not even that serious, but you know, and then the next thing we did was also at Cafe Cliff Stone was poetry night, and that one I'm very proud of.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_00: So there's this girl named Raven who is now in um, I think she's in Denton or Austin or something like that.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_00: She moves, but she was the one helping me.
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  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, we had Poetry Night, and basically the rules is that we got three very intelligent um judges.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, like one of them, the first judges were um a Tam U C C teacher, one of the writers from uh Corpus, I forget what it's called.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_00: They they do the stuff at the house meeting, the uh art museum.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: I forgot her name.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: But and then we had um a famous musician, like I say famous, but like locally famous, and then yeah, so we gave them a rubric that we wrote out.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_00: She wrote it out, wrote it on high detail, and then it was five dollars entry, and then uh people just go on there.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: We had the microphone, all that stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: They go on there, they speak their truth, and the theme was green.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: So, like the first thing was green, it's just the word green, so you can do with that as you will, kind of thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And people came in, and that one it was a hundred people.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_00: And again, this is a coffee house that can only fit like 30, 40 people, a hundred people packed through the door, like outside, like wrapped around the building, and we have to tell them people were like, I'm sorry, you gotta go.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and that's a common theme with the events that we do, and so um, you know, but the poetry nights are extremely important because I'm like I was saying before off the camera is that there's a lot of ideas that get suppressed because they're not very normalized.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how the words, but poetry night was always about giving a platform to people who don't have it.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: So your average Joe Schmo who writes poetry and no thinks no one will ever hear it, now gets to perform for 100 people for five dollars, and then we didn't keep the money.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_00: All the the winner and the second place winner and the third place winner got prize money slash uh drinks, or uh I give away uh I forgot to mention this, but all those events that I was talking about just now, I gave away everything that I have.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm talking about baby pictures, I'm talking about my guitar, my shoes, like I'm giving away everything that I literally own.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like when I say everything, I got the shit that's on my back, and uh I have a backpack over there.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_00: I got stuff in that, and that's it, you know what I'm saying?
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like I give it all away, every single thing, and people can hold me to that.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: So uh, but yeah, so that was important.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_00: And then that's when we first started getting our first news coverage.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: So after that, after that first poetry night, and we're like, yo, we're actually doing this, like we got something.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_00: We started hitting up every single news station.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_00: And the first news station that really talked to us and was legit.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_00: Shout out John Oliver, uh Olivia, excuse me, uh Calor Times, they gave us a story.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: So they heard about the chess nights, they heard about the poetry nights, and they were like, yo, this is legit.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, they were like, do it bigger.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: Pretty much she was like, do it bigger.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: And so we went up to the exchange.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_00: Shout out the exchange, shout out Hank, shout out Trip Tonight, love them all.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: They made me who I am today, wrote a song about it.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, we went to the we went to the exchange, and I mean I've been playing for the exchange, jam nights and doing little gigs there for years.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: But we went there and we're like, yo, we want to have a chess night, purely because they had a chessboard upstairs, and I love that place.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: So we're like, yo, we want to have a chess night.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_00: We don't know how big it's gonna be, but we've been doing this, maybe like a hundred people, and I'm like, sure, that's that's amazing, fine.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_00: So we planned it.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_00: It was on April 1st last year, and uh that was the first time that we actually promoted like an actual promoted company.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_00: So uh on my website, I say we're a marketing company consulting, and now this is when we're first first starting starting to like step into that.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: So like I'm starting uh I'm I'm hitting up everyone on Facebook.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_00: I'm telling you like hundreds of people a day, you know, like hundreds of people a day.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to the news.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_00: We got a you know, got multiple articles that went viral on caller times.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm getting like my old bosses and like my old teachers calling me.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: They're like, hey, are you doing a chest night?
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what the fuck?
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I'm like, and it's just it's getting big.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm at the time, I'm thinking, like, oh, this is you know, I'm desensitized.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking, like, oh, it's gonna be big, but I don't know how big it's gonna be.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we go to the exchange the day of, and it's when I tell you like before we're doing 100, you know, that's good, 200.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_00: I kid you not.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: 300, I want to say 350.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna lowball 350 people came in that bitch.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_00: Every inch, every square with there's photograph, there's like evidence, like we can look it up online.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: But like every inch of this bitch was completely filled with people who loved chess.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_00: Some of them didn't even know what was going on, they just wanted to be a part of what Kaiavance was doing.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: And so um, you know, we had our shout out Logan and Daniel stressing them to death because they're the ones who I'm gonna run on.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: They're like, oh my god, and then it was crazy, it was hectic, but we got it, we got it down.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, you know, nobody was expecting that many people, and then it we got to the point where there was so and we had beforehand bought a bunch of boards and we had um oh okay, the so and chesters like grandmasters and that kind of stuff.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: We had a we had a national master and a grandmaster candidate come to the chess tournament because they heard about it through social media, and they had boards, so even so with their boards, with our boards, we still didn't have enough boards or tables to to do it.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_00: So we got we went to uh excuse me, we went to the next door um venue, red toad.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_00: Shout out them too, they're amazing.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we're like, yo, can we use your tables?
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we got too many people in this bitch.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we make sure to throw you something, and then like, sure, those tables were filled, we still didn't have enough people, so we started having give away refunds.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_00: We give away like$300 worth of refunds, and again, this is a five-dollar tournament, so we're giving out a lot of refunds just because we physically cannot have them play, but anyways, that went away, and I mean that was amazing.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: That really was the first thing that got people's attention about it.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, we've been around, but yeah, that was that was a big thing.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_00: So, after that, I mean, after that, there's kind of it's like kind of history.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's like we continue to do the we didn't do chess again because I'm realizing that chess it has to be training, like people are sick and having something so competitive and something so narcissistic.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_00: People associate their intelligence to the chess game, but it's not like that.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like we have to we're kind of like taking a step back and rethinking how to do it cooler.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: But besides that, we started doing music again, right?
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: Because we realized we realized that you know that's not the way to go.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and also having that many people and not having a message and not having a a motif is pointless.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's like we have all these people playing chess, but then that's it.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's like so that's when we started thinking more consciously about what we can do with the with people.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's like it's not good enough to just have a show, it's not good enough to just have fun or whatever.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's like you have to you leave, everyone has to leave knowing something different, you know?
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like they have to.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: So that's when we started doing uh well, we started doing concerts pretty much.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: We were doing concert before, but now we're doing like tried and true, this is a concert type thing.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: So we went to this place called the NASA.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's like an underground venue.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure everyone's heard about it, but yeah.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: So we played there and um, you know, shout out the NASA.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, shout out the NASA.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_00: We played there, and it's a similar thing.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: We got the super super justice league band to come play again.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: It was amazing.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it was called uh the event was called Red, and this is the first time that people are really at.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_00: We started doing this, and then everyone started doing this, adding names to the events, you know what I'm saying?
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: And this you'll find that I'm not even gonna mention it, but just real quick, we do a lot of things that people see in the copy, but we don't say nothing about it because that's not what it's about, you know.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_00: But we did that show at the NASA, and you know, that place got it was like 200 people more or less.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: Now, the reason we don't play there anymore, and it's kind of controversial, is that we took pictures, videos, and all that shit, counted heads, and we got like 200 and I want to say 213 people and minus like 20 people that we let in for free.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: They said that we only brought it 150, so they pocketed it a lot of that money and tried to buy.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: And so it was like, and then it was like, and not only that, we when I was going up to get the money and talk to the the owner's wife, and I'm saying this shit, and they're gonna hate me for it, but uh the owner's wife pushed the hell out of one of my vendors, and so I forgot to mention this, but we're doing vendors, so like I have I'm connected with about 250 vendors and about 55 food trucks, if I'm remembering my numbers right.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like when I say connected, I mean like I they see my face, I'm friends with them, like kind of thing.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I want to used to do is like, you know, we have all these people, we would hit up vendors, and people were doing it before, but not in that sense and not in that scale.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, but we stopped doing that because we realized that we don't want it to be commercialized, we don't want the main focus.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: Although I do want to feed these businesses, it's not the way, but um, regardless, she pushed the hell out of one of my vendors, like pushed it because she was like the vendor was saying, like, hey, da da da one, you know, just talking.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even know what it was.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: They had we're having some kind of dispute.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, that's not me.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: But she pushed her.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I saw that, she saw me see her, she said, and the girl I pushed back, and the girl looked at me, she was like, Yo, did she just do that?
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, I don't know to do right now, I've never encountered this before.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: And so she texted me the day the next day, and she was all like, Yo, that owner pushed me, and all I was saying was that she needs someone needs to move the car.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like, she got upset and she pushed the hell out of me.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, damn, yeah.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: And so, and then you know, after that, the owner, I mean, I want to say the owner because the owner's cool, but like that group of people, they're all like, Nah, no, you can't work with Kai Avance anymore.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Kai Vance, it's just an excuse.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I and I didn't say nothing about it, I didn't defend myself because at the end of the day, it's like I believe in karma, I believe in good and light, and that's like at a certain point, it's like it's just gonna come to light, you know what I'm saying?
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's like you're gonna get the come up and so it is what it is.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: After that, though, we went to uh we went to different venues, we tried at different little places to try to get the same kind of but we weren't finding it.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: And it at the real realistically, if I'm being honest, if I'm keeping it 100, it's because that every single time we do these DIY events and with a venue that isn't our own.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: We do ticket splits, and people think that 50-50 ticket splits are logically even, but they're not.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's like it sounds even, and that's what they'll kind of come at you.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, if I'm a newbie and the business owner's like, hey, 50-50 splits, that's even right, is real, you know.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: But they're making money off parking sometimes, they're making money off food, they're making money off liquor, you know what I'm saying?
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: They're making money off the promotion of people who see me do an event, then do an event afterwards, so it's like that kind of stuff.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: And not only this, we're a promotional company at this point, like we get thousands and thousands and thousands of views every month, every day.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: So, like they're getting free promotion at this point.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like, at one point on Facebook, I was getting like 500k engagement, more or less.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: And so, like, if I post you on my story and you get 2,000 in an hour, that's way more effective than any ad that you're paying for.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like there's that aspect as well, you know what I'm saying?
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: And they're trying to do 50-50 splits, which is not not okay.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: So, any musicians, any artists, any in the future, don't let them do that to you because it's fucked up.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: 8020 is legit.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: And so that kind of comes, I'm kind of you know, cliff noting.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: But like, that's when we met House of Rock.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: I got introduced to House of Rock by my friend Dylan, who's also a local legend, amazing guy.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but yeah, he introduced me to Casey, who's the you know, the owner slash event organizer of the House of Rock.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I talked to him, and he was all like, Yeah, 8020 is what I'm gonna do.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: He was like, anything else is that them they're homing you, and I didn't realize it, but he was like, Yeah, they're homing you.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like 8020 is what I'm gonna be.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_00: He was like, I don't even care about the money, like this ain't because I got pizza, I got you know, and that's what it's about.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: And that so I really thank them, and they're legit because that was they're the first actual business that has taken me seriously because they don't see me as a rapper, they don't see me as someone who's black, and I know that's like I'll say that and people cringe, but it's like and the reality of it is that's what it is, and it's not because they're racist, no, no, no, no, it's because of the music that comes attached to black people, you know what I'm saying?
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: So like I'll go, I'm not gonna name this.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna name things.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_02: So so wait, so so you think so so what can you say that again?
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_02: You were saying that you think that that why you don't get that percentage is because you're because you're black.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_02: Is that what you're saying?
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh no, no, no, no, no.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: The percentage thing is just a business being greedy thing.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, what I'm saying is that they won't even they will be hesitant to even have me there in the first place because they're afraid that my crowd will be rowdy or that I'm gonna say something that's not fitting their business.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I got you ridiculous because I put I rap over jazz music, like you know.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, the people who know me know that's not true, but a lot of new businesses will see not anymore, not anymore, because every business knows how many different venues have you done overall by myself, just me?
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_02: Probably no, well, like the your your production.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: Then we'll see 24 total.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: Some of them were in Houston, some of them were in San Antonio.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, how many in here?
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: How many in Corpus?
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: If I had to give a number, probably like 10-15.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, just mostly, yeah.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's hard, it's kind of hard to pinpoint.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: But I would say about 10-15.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, definitely.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I mean yeah.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_02: So you're so you're so word of mouth is uh a promotion company.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_02: That is that okay.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so basically with word of mouth, so it started off as just something as I mentioned before just now about like how businesses are kind of afraid to have someone like me come into their establishment and take control, because that's what I do, to be honest.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: So, what I started doing is um crack, I didn't create it.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: My friend Emory came up with the name, but I co-founded it.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: And we come as word of mouth, inclusivity, like community-driven, we're safe, we're PC, don't even worry about it.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: Then that's kind of the whole vibe is that we uh created this whole uh entity to push away the focus from me and onto that because that that entity is very clean, it's very like family friendly, and businesses can latch on to that, you know, promotional companies, news stations can latch onto that, and so that's kind of what it is.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: And it's bigger than just a promotional company, I would say, because it's multi-faceted.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: So, first things first, yes, it is about promotion, it's about getting monetized.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_02: How is it multi-faceted?
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's about getting so not only is it um you know promotional company, but it's also a label, so it's like an actual official label, got the paper and all that stuff, and then we're trying to work it on it being a nonprofit organization.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: So, like every all the gigs that we're doing, all the resources we have, I want to be able to give it away for free.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: But not only that, we're also a um we'll soon to be poetry like publishing company.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's more of like two years, three years from now, but we're still working on it right now.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: But point is every poet that comes to my poetry night, all that stuff, I want to get them, I want to get in writing, I want to publish it, I want to put it out on content, da da da da da.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I want to give them an opportunity.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: And then as for the chess, we want to be a Logan specifically, he wants to be a chess organizer.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: And in order to do that, there's like a few things that we have to go through.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: We've done most of it.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: The last thing we need to do is hold a Tournament with a thousand people, and then we'll be certified uh organizer.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: So it's just like whatever we wanted.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: My whole point is that whatever we want to do, word of mouth is the excuse to do it.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: You feel me?
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, and and it's a and it's and it's three guy, three founders or two, how many founders?
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: Well, so technically seven.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: So that's a whole story.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um basically, I started off with uh um I started off with this guy.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna say their names, I'll say the people I like's names, that kind of shit.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: I started off with me, uh, my friend Alile, this girl named Izzy, another person, and Daniel, and then um my friend Dylan, and then there's and then Logan.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: So like as time went on, everyone started doing their own things, everyone started falling off, and then at the yeah, I wish y'all could see the chat on my phone because it's crazy.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right, right.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, um, it ended up just being three people at the very end.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: After everything was said and done, it ended up just being me, Daniel, and Logan.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: And then recently, Daniel's gonna go to San Antonio to pursue art.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: He's a very uh talented manga, which is like a manga artist.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um amazing talent, but he's gonna go to San Antonio.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um, right now it's just me and Logan, but Logan is going to school for business, you know what I'm saying?
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: Nice, what you know.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so right now it's just me.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: So technically, right now it's just me.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: However, um, just because it's technically just me, I still have like tons and tons and tons of people who I couldn't do it without.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I always delegate what I can, you know.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: Shout out Bobby Glory.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_02: So do you consider do you consider what you're doing a business?
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, I would say that yes, it is a business.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: It was definitely a business, and it's a business that most people have never seen before.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's a kind of business that isn't based on greed, it's not based on capitalism.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: Our business is not about making money.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I've could have made if I was literally any of my contemporaries, I would have a house right now.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_00: I would have shoes, or I'm just kidding.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, I would have a lot of things.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: But I've chosen specifically to give not only all the money that I've gotten, like we should say I get a do a gig, I get a hundred dollars.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: I give that money to my mom, I give it to my friends, I give it to my girlfriend, I give it to I or I put it back into the business.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: I make shirts, I do whatever the fuck.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_00: But point is I never keep any of the money because I personally think, and this is my opinion, I personally think money is disgusting, and I think businesses that are run on money just inevitably end up going evil.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: But good, yeah.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't think money's evil.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah, I I think it's I think it's a currency, like you know what I mean.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like it can be evil, uh and it can be evil, yeah.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_02: Uh but that's just how I see it.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: Well, no, yeah, I agree.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: I think I agree.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_00: Uh what I'm saying is not money isn't evil, and money's neutral, but I think people can be innately evil, and money just brings out what's inside of you, is what I'm really saying.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_02: Two, yeah, and then like you can get into the aspect of like people not being responsible with their money, yeah, as far and people that are responsible with their money, you know what I mean.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I I even think about like how I wish like more people like us that are creatives actually owned, yeah, you know, owned real estate, you know what I mean, in the city, so that way we can do what we want to do.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_02: But it's like it seems like we're we're stuck underneath that because for whatever reason we're not wanting to grow in that aspect.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_02: Uh that's interesting, man.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, so it is a so that's cool, man.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so you give all your money away.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_02: So how do you are do you work full time?
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, do you work anywhere or okay?
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I used to work, and I'm a really good worker, and that's what's so funny about all of this, is that I um I mean in college, like I went to college under a full scholarship, and I was gonna be an engineer, like an electric engineer at UT.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_00: And then I was just, I mean, I went to school for music as well, but and then I dropped out of college because I was like fuck school.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, whatever reason, that's just ego, but I was like fuck school.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I started working at different restaurants.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: I was working at I was the general manager at two Jersey mics, like uh well, I mean it's just one, yeah, two jersey mics, pretty much.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but uh the Alameda location and the Ean Strawstone location, and I worked there for a while, and then I worked at Whataburger, just like bullshit jobs, yeah, yeah.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: And then I became a teacher, like I did homework and just you know stuff like that.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I did that stuff for a while, and you know, whatever job I end up doing, I progress really far.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm realizing that me personally, I'm not I don't advocate this for anybody, but just me personally, where I'm at in my life right now, I don't need money.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like I've connected with so many people that anything I would spend money on, be it um flour, yeah, get flour, food, you know, clothing, whatever it is, I can get it for free.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I I don't I try not to exploit that, but yeah, I don't need money.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I don't need money to get happy.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like the most thing I need money for is like health stuff, like you know, if I get sick or if my teeth breaks or dentist, that kind of shit.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_00: Right, but other than that, I don't need money.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I've never really needed money, and maybe in like 10 years or if I have a kid tomorrow, kind of shit.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna need a job and I'm gonna need it, but as a I was gonna ask, like, so so where do you like uh where do you see yourself later?
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like or yeah, uh yeah.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_02: So what what what do you what's the future for you?
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_02: Why what are you planning for in the future?
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like what do you want?
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_02: What are you working toward?
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I I the way I think, I think in parts, definitely.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_00: So a year from now, I either see myself either extremely extraordinarily rich, or uh, you know, more realistically, I see myself being way more integrate ingrained into the Corpus Christi uh pick a name, pick it, pick an adjective, like pick a noun in like business.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_00: And I see myself more ingrained in the politics of it.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't want to be a politician, but in the conversation of politics.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: I see myself like becoming a label and giving opportunities and resources to smaller artists who will never get it.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh in five years from now, I again see myself extremely rich.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_00: But if that's not the case, I see myself moving to Houston and doing what I'm doing here, but in Houston.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I've been to Houston a few times now, and I'm seeing that the event organizers there are very stuck in the whole um uh I don't know how to put it, but like how where Corpus was three years ago is where they're at right now, event organizing wise.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_00: Very uh primitive.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_00: That's the best way to put it.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_02: So so you so you're working on on the the promotion aspect of it, yeah, and you're working on the on your your art, like which is rapping, right?
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_02: So you so you so you want to progress in those two areas, you want to be further in the future, yeah, and what make that so you want to make that a lifestyle?
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's when you say the rap, it's like my art doesn't stop at me.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_00: Uh rap rap is my favorite medium.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_00: When I think of like a song, um, I think of the perfume, I think of the clothing, I think about what movie theater would play my music video, I think about you know what I'm saying, that kind of stuff, what radio station, you know, because that you know, that kind of stuff.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like about that for me.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: And just by that thought alone, you know, when I think about progressing in music or progressing in my art, I see myself progressing as a person.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, and I when I progress as a person, typically good that good things happen to you.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_00: So I can only imagine like positive things.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: I want to grow in music for sure, and I want to grow in the promotional aspect for sure, but more importantly, I want to be a better person in a few years, you know.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_02: Right, right on, man.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_02: So so I guess so how uh what are the steps that you that you think you're taking and that you are taking to get to that to that place that you want to be?
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_00: That was a good question.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so right now, actually, after this interview, I'm gonna go talk to uh Alexis Hervotos, which is a band, and basically I'm gonna start with them.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_00: So I've already done it for myself, I'm content.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_00: I could go further, like I could make content and I know how to do it, but I'm gonna take, I'm taking, I'm not ready yet.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_00: If I'm being honest with myself, I'm not ready.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_00: But I think they're ready.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_00: So uh I'm gonna give I'm gonna talk to them today, and I'm gonna give them all of my resources, be it like what I'm saying, all interviews, like you know, I know a lot of podcast people are at this point, but like magazines, like literally social media knowledge, like everything that I have that a label would give them.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna give it to them for free and see what they go with it.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: And so that will be my test strategy as if can I even be a label?
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: So I want to be a label, but can I even do it?
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna test it with them and see like how far can I push them, you know?
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: And that's some different shit because there's a lot of my there's a lot of people in the city that have what I have and and more, if not like way more.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um right, but they are not doing that, they're not doing it.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_00: They it wouldn't hurt them at all, but they think it would.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't know what they're thinking to me.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna claim, but point is right, they're not doing it, you know.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm thinking, like, I don't have fucking, I don't have money at all.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_00: I have five dollars to my name.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna give that to my homie for gas.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like if someone with zero dollars can do it, then imagine what someone with all the money in the world could do it, or someone with ten dollars, you know, or whatever.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but that's that's kind of what I'm focusing on right now, is just really pushing that.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_00: And then on the other on the separate end, Facebook monetizes people, and I'm sure people know that.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_00: But if you are professional or like professional mode and you use all the features of Facebook, you can get a bonus.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_00: And the bonus is like depending on the amount of clicks you get, you can get a certain amount of money.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: And the bonus for this month is$55,000.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, if you are if you go viral for whatever reason, you get thousands and thousands of clicks, you could potentially get fifty-five thousand dollars a month.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know about you, but that's some life-changing money, and that's something that every single human on the earth can do, you know.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_00: Not everyone will get it, but they can at least try.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's kind of another thing I'm focusing on.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_02: So, like there's online monetization, and then obviously you know, person-to-person monetization or whatever.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_02: That's pretty interesting.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh, yeah, that's cool, man.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so so okay, so there's there's other promotions in town, there's other uh, I guess, rappers in town.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't want to generalize because I know you do different stuff or whatever.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_02: I was just gonna say rappers promotions.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so what what are you how are you different from what they're doing, or what are you doing different from what they're doing, and why should people uh I guess have you uh on their platform or at the you know what I'm saying?
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so um as for I'll start with the music.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_00: So with rap, um, I love this question because I talk about it pretty much every day.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: The the key difference between me and your average rapper, like which is not even talking about famous, which is talking about corpus, is that first of all, my my rivals, my can whatever, are astrophysicists, like they're engineers.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_00: So you know what I'm saying?
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I went to school and I was doing these people's homework, and it's like so like my mind naturally works in a very pattern-based way.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I can solve a rubber ski with one hand with my eyes closed, like on some real shit.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like, like I have my friend over here, she's like, but yeah, yeah, so that's kind of how I think.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_00: So when I come when I approach music, I most people approach it like uh chorus, hook.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, I'm thinking like how many I'm thinking like how can this syllable the amount of syllables in this word relate to the next word and the next stanza?
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like sometimes I'll do this rhyme scheme where like I'll start off with 12 syllables and I'll go to 11 syllables and then 10, and it's like all rhyming.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_00: And then like I go even further than that.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_00: I would do like like there's this guy, you know, Jay-Z, like he got really uh a lot of props for doing like three consecutive quadruple entendres.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_00: I do that kind of stuff consistently, like with my music.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_00: I do like yeah, it's like that's the kind of that's the kind of vibe that I'm going for.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like lyricism based, and there's a that's a cat, there's a caveat to that because it's so complicated half the time, not always, but like a lot of the time my shit's very complicated.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's like broccoli.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_00: Some people like broccoli and you need it, but realistically, people are gonna pick the cake every time.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, yeah, that's kind of where I'm at, you know.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_02: So it's yeah, do you do you find you do you find that you have to okay?
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_02: So so some of that complex stuff people don't understand, and somebody some of them really won't listen to it because they don't understand it.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_02: Do you feel like you're you you create songs that people will understand, like say easier stuff, you know, an easier musically, like uh, you know, verse chorus, course chorus, or whatever you say.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_02: Do you find yourself having to do that as a as an artist?
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so basically, what I've uh I came across that complicated problem about two years ago, so I'm kind of past that.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_00: But what I've what I've understood is that you can give people broccoli if you put it in, or let me rephrase, you can give people carrots if you put it into a cake, you know what I'm saying?
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like I'll have the song structure, the beat itself be extremely digestible.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, for instance, with jazz music, it's like there's some certain frequencies in your as a human that you just naturally want to hear, like the birthday song, you know what I'm saying?
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_00: Or like Mary had a little, you already hear it in your head, right?
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: Very digestible.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_00: So I'll have stuff like that within the harmony of the song itself already.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_00: And then I'll have like very nostalgic aspects of my samples.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_00: So like I'll get like the Kool-Aid Man, or I'll get like what like stuff that people all like they can latch on to.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_00: And then my chorus is my key, I have choruses, I don't like to use them, but when I do use them, they're very, very um minimal.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_00: So like you can play them on a piano with one hand, type shit.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_00: So like I have this one song called Sober, and the chorus is literally just life ain't better when you're sober, roll another blunt when it's sober.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: That's it.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_00: You know, and then the verse is like even if people, even if the average person can't understand what I'm saying, or they can't, even if they understand it, they can't like latch onto it.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_00: The chorus, the music is good enough to where they're like, Oh, I can jam to this, I can bump to this.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_02: Right, right, right, yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've always thought about like rappers having to rap over like a an all-time signature.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like a five five, four, like a seven, four, you know what I mean?
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, like if you give it, if you give it to some, you know what I mean?
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_02: If you give it to a rapper that doesn't understand that, they'll be tripping on it, you know.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_02: I think so.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't know.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, hell yeah.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_00: I uh there's this there's this famous drummer who was in corpus, but she just moves because she's in the military.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_00: Her name is Cammy.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: People know Cammy, people know Cammy, she has like 300k followers, but I jam with her sometimes, and she does, she loves to do the whole 7-4.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm just like, uh, but you know, she's yeah, exactly.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: Eventually I've learned how to adapt to it.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I started with jazz guitar, and so you know what my mindset is that if I when I'm rapping, and I started off by freestyling, like off the dome, like that's my main thing.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_00: But when I'm when I'm rapping, I just think about it as like solo on a guitar because I can solo anything.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: Give me any temp, any time signature, any key, whatever.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_00: I got you.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I can solo when I think about it like that, I'm like, okay, well, let me just add words to it.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I let me just solo on guitar in my mind in my mind and just add words to it.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_00: And then it's like anything's the sky's the limit.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like, p me, give me country, give me rock.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that's why I love the jazz.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's why I love uh uh the exchange because like you get all kinds of people, all kinds of music, different artists, and I'll go on there and I'll just rap over whatever or I'll sing on it, whatever.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's different, you know, you get different tastes, but yeah, you know, I love that.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so do you do you have do you feel like uh do you have a certain audience that likes your music, would you say, or and do you like target them?
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay, so you so you you target a certain art?
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, so so that's uh some something that's different there.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_02: Uh wow, yeah.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_00: So oh yeah, go for it.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_02: No I I know I know uh Mr.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_02: Justice and Mr.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_02: He.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_02: I learned yeah, I went to I I went to Del Mar.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_02: I got my bachelor's in music from music ed from Del Mar.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I got my bat my bachelor's from AM here, Corpus Christi.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah, bro.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, uh if you go if you like if you go to Del Mar, I won the honors concert, I think in 2005 or four, something like that.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_02: If they still have those pictures on the wall, yeah, bro.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_02: If you if you go down that first hall, you soon you walk in that first hall that the long hall where all the pianos are, yeah, you'll see my picture up there, bro.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, bro.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yo, yeah, we're brothers in arms right now.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_00: We had the same teacher.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_02: So I I I knew Mr.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_02: Justice from Delmar.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't go to Carol, I went to Ray, and then I went.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_02: So Mr.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_02: Justice was my jazz.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_02: I took him an elective with him for jazz guitar for one semester.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_02: Damn, that dude is he's a beast.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_02: I know seven string.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_02: Uh well, well, he has a seven string now.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_02: At that at that time, yeah, like he just had a regular six string, but damn, that's crazy.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, he switched because he was he's teaching bass lessons now as well.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_00: So he just plays on that seven string.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_02: See, no man, I wish I could do what he does, man.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: For real.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: I gave up.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_00: I just you know what I'm saying.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and he and he he would like you give him a piece, it just has the melody and the chords on there.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_02: You know, just has the melody, but it has the chords in shape form, you know what I mean?
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and he this dude's putting the freaking harmony, the melody, and the bass, all it.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, dude, how the hell do you think?
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, while he's having a conversation, I'm like, dog, yeah.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I hope he's doing good, bro.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: I've talked to him in a minute.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_00: I uh yeah, it's been a minute since I've seen both of them.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_02: Mr.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_02: He too.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_02: I was here.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_02: He was my professor even when I went to AM.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, but yeah, I learned a lot from him on playing the guitar.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's definitely man.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_00: He's a genius.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_02: Oh man, if you could have he's got the box CD and his show the Chopin C D.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, those are the only two that I've heard.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_02: I know they got other ones, but those are the only two.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_02: But golly, that dude is just yeah, he has a lot.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: He actually uh he retired, but like before I left.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_00: He did before I got yeah, he retired like two years ago, I think.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_00: But he gave me all of his jazz transcriptions from when he was in uh when he was in high school or college.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_00: He gave them to me like handwritten.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, you know, they're still in my they're at my mom's house right now, like in the fucking wow.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, I couldn't believe it.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't even tried to learn them.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like, they're so like they're over my head.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's like they're way over my head.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, all the guitarists wanted to look inside his collection because he had all kinds of stuff in this room.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_00: He gave it all away, he gave a lot of it away.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there's a one guy named uh Bajan.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_00: He gave him his classical transcriptions for Bach.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I was just like, bro, it's just crazy, you know.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, that's what it's about.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_00: And see, that's what inspires me, is because he didn't ask for money.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_00: He didn't say, well, I mean, granted, I pay for college, but he didn't ask for money for the transcriptions.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_00: He said, Kaya, there's so many people who have tried to get these and try to copy them, and he said, Oh, yeah, there you go for free.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_00: Good time.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, yeah.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_02: I was I wonder if he I don't know if I wonder if he gave his uh his Chopin transcriptions because he was he was hoarding those too.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_02: He was telling me that one time uh uh people had wanted to get them, and he gave it to like maybe one or two people, like one song or something.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, just the song, like yeah, yeah.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_00: Oh man, I see he probably would if I'm if I'm him, either he gave it to his son or he gave it to uh the new teacher.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_00: That's all I can think of.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: You know, just knowing, but yeah, man, I love that.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_02: That's cool, man.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so let me see.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_02: So different from I'm sorry, I'm looking at my notes here.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_02: Um so you got you got the plans for the future.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_02: Is there anything else you want to share?
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh, yeah, go ahead.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_00: So basically, um, on the vein of music, I I mentioned this briefly, but excuse me.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_00: Excuse me.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_00: I have I have four studio albums that I've been written that I've written, and some of them, a few songs need to be mixed and mastered.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_00: But so the first one that I'm gonna drop is um is intro 33.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_00: So that one's not necessarily mine.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_00: Shout out Bobby Glory, who's an amazing producer.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, basically, you know, Knowledge, you ever heard of Knowledge or um what's his name?
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh MF Doom or you know, those kind of things.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_00: So they make beat track, they make beat tapes.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_00: And so we're like, you know, we can do that.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like, well, he was like, I can do that.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_00: So he made 33 beats each a minute long, and he's gonna drop them as an album.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_00: And so these are some good beats, these are some serious beats, and I imagine in a few years people trying to buy them or like trying to use them.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but yeah, other than that, I had um the next the main one, the album that's mine, it's called Energy, N R G.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_00: And that's an acronym, but it's also Energy the word.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_00: So right the acronym stands for uh niggas read good or niggas rap good, never reach God.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of different meanings in it.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, so that one that song is just that album is just an EP.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's seven songs plus a bonus trap.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_00: And for that one, I want it to be an experience.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_00: So uh I've been talking to a lot of different models in the city, and think uh each picture cover is a different girl in the city.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um when we finish the music video, we're gonna go to Alamo.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_00: They haven't confirmed it yet, so I don't want to jinx it, but we want to go to the Alamo and um have the music, you know, the music video played on that big screen.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_00: And like, you know, we have these um smoke machine, we have these fog machines that you can put essential oils in.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_00: And so uh I have this person that makes essential oils, like different smells.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna drop the essential oils within the smokes, the thing, and play it out during certain songs.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_00: So the entire thing smells like, yeah, we have a perfume maker, you know those perfume jellies, they're like it's not a jelly, but it's like um, but yeah, we got one.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: We have I have someone making a custom one for energy right now, along with different music.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we got merch on the way, we got hair.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm not sure if you see my hair.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_00: I got some different things.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like, here's one of them.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, if I can find it.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we want to make some jewelry for hair for dreads.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're just going, we're going full force, and uh, we're not gonna.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_00: There's a chat on my phone right now that says put out a CD.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna do CDs, we're not gonna do CDs, but we are gonna do CD players because I'm noticing the CDs are making a comeback, so we're gonna do um an energy CD player.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, yeah, just for fun, like you know, just just because but so yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_02: That's cool, man.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I like how you have like you're thinking about the show aspect of it, the sound.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_02: Pretty cool, man.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, so do you do you have to cop do you copyright your stuff?
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_02: Do you have to like because you know I know you mentioned like being like a label and stuff like that?
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_02: Uh like have you have you started that process as far as like yeah, you have okay.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_02: Well, what's that look like?
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_00: I went through uh oh yeah, sorry, I was reading this.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_00: I went to you know, DistroKid, that's my favorite one.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, there's a lot of different distributors, but distrokid is my favorite, just because it's like very user-friendly.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I put all my music and I did the splits.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_00: So everything that we have put out online is copyrighted.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_00: All the stuff that we haven't put out, we haven't even tried a copyright yet, just we're not done with it.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_00: But um, as for samples and clearance, I if we ever get to a point where they care about our samples and like us using their samples, we've did something good.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_00: So like that's where we're at.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like, if we get sued, we get sued, and I'll give them the money, I don't give a fuck.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that's where that's kind of where I'm at.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_00: As for the lyrics, I'm writing a book called Bitches, and I'm writing a book called The Incomplete Guide, How to Freestyle Off the Dome.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_00: I have not gotten, I've not finished them, but the the the freestyle guide, we're uh hopefully gonna get that copyrighted in a few days and put it out as a free book online.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, that's kind of a dream.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so what what uh what are your what are your lyrics about whenever you whenever you uh what are they about?
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so you know, uh there's I would say there's two different versions of Kaya.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_00: There's the freestyle Kaya that raps about whatever comes into my mind, like literally, you know, but as for the written stuff, so my most of my songs, like for I'll just give you an example through energy.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_00: Energy is about uh matter of fact, I can read you with the description that I had later, but um, it's about being born, right?
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_00: Just starting off being born, and when you're born, you're naturally afflicted by the by sin.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm I'm I used to be very religious, I'm not very religious now, but I still believe in a lot of those ideas.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_00: But just being born in sin, like people think that when you're born you're innocent, and that is true, but that is true to an extent, like innocent in the mind state, but you're born a sinner.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's like overcoming each of those sins.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_00: So like you have, and there's a reason that there's seven tracks, you know what I'm saying?
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_00: Seven deadly sins.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, yeah, so basically each song is like I go, I dec I deconstruct what it means to be a human, and more specifically a black man, because that's the only thing I'm qualified to talk about.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: So I start with love, you know, and I start with hatred.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_00: I start with I do uh religion, drugs, uh greed.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_00: I you know, I dec I deconstruct all of these things.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_00: I take like that song Sober I mentioned, it's about alcohol abuse and saying like.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yo, I I can be sober.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_00: I promise I'm good.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I can I can quit when I want.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_00: I I can I'm good.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_00: In reality, it's like you're not good.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's like this is a coping mechanism.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_00: Roll never one when it's over.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_00: And then uh, you know, I have another song called I Don't Wanna Fight No More.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_00: And so that that's not these are these songs aren't aren't energy.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to drop the energy tracks just yet.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_00: But I have a new album called Capital N-Word, and it's on that same vein.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_00: So like I have a song called I Don't Wanna Fight No More.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just about I don't want to fight no more.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's that simple.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, yeah, yeah, I'm tired of fighting people, I'm tired of fighting my job, I'm tired of fighting dah-da-da-da-da.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like again, deconstructing all of these things.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_00: And so my whole goal with music is to express myself.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm realizing the only true, like on my Islam shit, all my Buddhist shit is like you gotta be all yours, all of your wrongs, all of your weaknesses, and accept them.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_00: Most people think you have to denounce them.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, no.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_00: You have to accept them and make them be like, hey, this is who I am.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_00: I can choose not to be an asshole, but this is who I am, you know, right?
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_00: And then putting that into songs, and then I have another album called One Day Never.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_00: And so uh most of my albums so far have been deconstructing, deconstruction, like, hey, I'm this, I'm that, I'm this, or I'm not this, I'm not this.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_00: But then One Day Never saying, Well, well, that's okay, that's okay.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's like it's the solution.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_00: So, like the first song on the album is called uh Vance Jackson Apartments, and that's where I grew up in San Antonio.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_00: Same last name as me, my my last name is Vance, which I thought was kind of cool.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_00: But um, so the first lyric in the song is since the day I was born, I always had something special to give, you know.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_00: And so my whole purpose in having something like that is to be the exact antithesis of everything I've written before.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, say you have it gets on the radio, which is say it gets does good, whatever, people start repeating it.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, as a listener, when you start repeating that lyric, since the day I was born, it stops being about me and it starts being about the listener who's repeating it.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_00: And so I really believe powers have words, and I believe that people can manifest things.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like having someone repeat something so positive, like, hey, no matter what, since the day I was born, I have something special to give.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_00: You start gaining confidence, you start getting better, you know.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_00: And that's kind of the whole purpose of One Day Never is to hear the and then my One Day Never is kind of my pop album, basically.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_00: So, like you hear all these songs, you hear all these details, you hear all these lyrics, eventually you start copying them.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_00: And then instead of it being like, like, you know, like I love J.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_00: Cole, but instead of it being like uh like wet dreams or being gratuitous or being negative about guns or violence or whatever the fuck, it's about self-growth.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's being like, hey, all these things exist and I can accept that, but that's not who I am, you know, and that's why the album is called One Day Never, because it's like everyone wants to make it one day, but what happens if you make it one day never?
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_00: You know, and I'll just I'll I'll finish with this.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, like the idea is so I had this one uh this one, I'll just say random girl.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's somebody's mom.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_00: I might even explain the relation.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_00: But point is this one girl told me she was like, Well, what would you do if you had no talent?
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's like like and that that one got me because it's like, yo, if you we all know you're talented, Kaya, but if you had no talent, then what?
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_00: What would you be doing right now?
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, I had to stop and be like, Oh shit, would I be playing guitar?
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_00: Would I be at school?
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_00: Would I be doing this?
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_00: Would I be doing that?
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I realized that if I had no talent, no ability, no resources, no friends, I would be making music, I would be trying to help myself.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_00: So I realized that it's like I am not qualified into talking about anyone else but myself.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_00: And so I deconstructed who I am and I rebuilt it and accepted it.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's like the stages of Greece, really.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_00: You know, there's anger, there's all kinds, that's why I don't want to over talk myself, but you know what I'm saying?
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like there's so many layers to what it is, and then yeah, so so what so so you got all these plans, you got all this stuff.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_02: What happens if it doesn't work?
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, and that's the whole thing is that if even if I it doesn't matter, even if I lost a finger, even if I cut my hair off, and I, you know, all my family, I can't, it don't matter.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_00: I would still be doing it because I've already made it.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_00: The idea of success in many people's eyes is so ridiculous to me.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's so fallacious.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I made it because I have money, or I made it because I played for da-da-da.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_00: None of those things matter.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's like you don't take that stuff with you when you die.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_00: To me, success is complete understanding of yourself and complete acceptance for who you are, and then and also a side thing, connections.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's like friends, family, those uh, you know, even acquaintances, even hatred, even enemies, all those things.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's like that in itself is winning.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_00: So by that, I have no competition, I have no frets about not making making it because I've made it.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_00: I've you know what I'm saying?
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_00: I've done it.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_00: I've done what people, so many people wish they could do, and that's except themselves, you know.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_02: Right on.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_02: So so success does this so does success have a like money?
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like, is it tied to money?
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_02: Is it is there a price for it?
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_00: No, never would you say okay?
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, and honestly, and anybody watching this right now that knows me will know that I'm very consistent about this.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_00: Is that if I got two million dollars tomorrow, I'd have one dollar the next day because I'd give it all away.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_00: And that's that's a little I'm writing a book called Bitches, and that's one of the excerpt in the book Bitches.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, but yeah, you know, I I don't care about money, like I don't want it.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I do like guitars.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna pretend like I'm the saint.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I love food, I love bitches, I love all that, but I don't need it, I don't want it, I don't crave it.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, if I had a million dollars, I would give it to my mom.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_00: First off, I would get I would get my mom all the money.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_00: I would give her a house, I would give her whatever she needs to be good.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_00: I would get my friends, all my people who have helped me get this far.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'd make sure that they're good, I would make sure their families are good.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_00: I would go downtown, all the businesses that ever helped me, I'd buy all their shit.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's what I would do.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like the homeless people on the street, and it's like, and here's this kind of sidetracked, but it's in the same vein, is that a lot of people see the homeless people and they like are scared of them, they're disgusted.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I've had deep ass conversations with these people.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_00: I smoked with them, and it's like if I I always tell them I'm like, yo, I'm gonna make it and I'm gonna help you.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_00: And like I mean that shit genuinely.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like there's so many people I don't I'm like I said before, I don't need money, I'm good.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_00: There's so many people money, and I would help them with it.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, do you feel like do you feel like people people always cut uh bring that up in conversation with you?
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, all the time, yeah, all the time for a lot of reasons.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, people who know me, like even a little bit, and I'm we're starting to get in know each other, they know I'm gonna make it.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's like they know for I know I'm gonna make it, and that's the narcissistic people shit that people are afraid to have, but you need to have that mindset to make it.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's like if you think, oh, I might not make it, then you're not gonna make it.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's like you need to know for a fact that you're gonna make it.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_00: If you're even slightly less than the best, you're nothing.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like I know for a fact I'm the greatest rapper alive, regardless if it's true or not.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, yeah, and so when I have that that confidence, people see that confidence and they're like, Oh shit, I can get something from them.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_00: There's so many people who are like that, and like, oh, I uh uh what about the money?
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_00: Are you gonna what about you know what I'm saying?
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_00: What about this?
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_01: What about that?
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_00: I don't give a fuck.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_00: And the niggas who I know are legit don't care either, you know?
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, yeah, but crazy, yeah.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's crazy.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, so I guess what I'm thinking is like there's a lot of there's I want to say that there's a lot of people that think like that, yeah.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_02: That that they're gonna make it, you know what I mean?
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_02: And it seems like there's there's there's only a handful that do make it, yeah.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, well, what about the ones that kept on saying, Oh, I'm gonna make it, I'm gonna make it, but they don't, you know what I mean?
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh, it is it is do is that a reality for you?
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_02: Do you think that's a reality for you, or for even some other artists, you know what I mean?
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, yeah, okay.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_00: Well, for me personally, I really don't.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I've made it, so it's like there's no for me, it's not I'm gonna make it, it's I've already made it, and how do I go, how do I continue in my life?
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_00: But for other people, I can see that being an issue.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like I can see them never making it, getting becoming 60-70 and being like, fuck, I never made it.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_00: But in reality, the here's the thing about that, right?
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_00: Is that if you want to make it, and if you're like, I'm going to make it, I'm gonna do whatever it takes to make it, you are gonna make it.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_00: That's just how the world works.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_00: That's just how the world works, and that's a that's a hidden thing that no one that's a hidden little piece of knowledge that people forget about.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's like there is people since here's my logic, right?
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_00: Is that it's already been done, right?
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_00: We'll just say it's only been done by two people, it has been done.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_00: So all you have to do is do what they did to an extent.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you don't have to copy them, but like do what they did in the sense that they did what needed to be done to become famous.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_00: So if that's your if that's your prerogative.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_00: So, like if I'm just an up-in-cun artist and I want to be famous, like if I really cared about being famous right now, I have a lot of knowledge, I have a lot of music and a lot of resources.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_00: What I would do is make a bunch of trap songs, make a bunch of country songs, and you know what I'm saying?
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I would make content, I would get all the prettiest girls I know to make content, I would sell my fucking guitars, put all that money into advertisement, hit up every label, be like, Look how many businesses I've got in the corpus, look how many da-da-da-da-da.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I would be like that.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_00: That's something I could do today.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm choosing like that's not I don't want to suck nobody's dick.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone's seen the pick, everyone's seen the PD videos.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_00: That's not who I'm trying to be.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_00: But if I was, that's what I would do.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, so it's like the idea of making it, it's easy.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's real, it's not easy, it's the hardest thing you can do, but it's easy when you think about like um what it takes to do it.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's not like it's not like it's a mystery, you know.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, and that's why education is so important about this shit, is because people are there's a lot of artists that don't even know where to start.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_00: But everyone has a phone, everyone has a computer, everyone has a voice.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_00: Well, not everyone, but you know what I'm trying to say, like a metaphorical voice.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like they can they can do it, it's doable, and especially with TikTok, like, and this is kind of a side thing, no one even knows this, but I run like four or five very famous TikTok accounts for my friends.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm talking about hundreds and hundreds of like millions of views that I just run it for them and they can keep the money.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_00: I just wanted to do it as practice, so it's like I can do that for anybody, I can do it for you, I can do it for anybody.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like realistically, it's just a set of things that you have to do in order to become famous.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_00: I've said fuck all of that.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_00: I've said, I've said, hey, I see that, I see that fuck all of that.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_00: Because you see, I mean, I don't even need to mention it, but I mean everyone has seen what the elites are doing, everyone's as seeing what famous people are doing and what they have to do to keep their money.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want nothing to do with that, nothing.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, that's kind of where I'm at, you know.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_02: Right on, man, that's cool, that's good stuff.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh man, I don't uh let me see.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_02: So do you think so um do you think there's do you think there's people in your circle or in the area that want to keep you from doing what you're doing?
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_00: Fuck yeah.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I love, and again, I'm not very religious, but I do know a lot about the Bible.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_00: But the story of Judas, and here's here's my perspective on people like that, right?
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll say I'll answer your question is that yes, there's tons of people who see what I'm doing and are intimidated by it.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_00: And my friend Alile has this term called caning, where like people will create a narrative because they don't like someone.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, if I say I didn't like you, then I would create a narrative, be like, Well, I don't trust him, I don't know.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone around you, and eventually everyone's starting to, you know, like conquer, it's like the whole thing.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_00: But right, right.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_00: My whole perspective is that just like in the story of like the 12 apostles and Judas, is that Jesus wasn't like, I'm not comparing myself to Jesus at all.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not doing that, but I'm just saying, right, right, yeah.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, you know, Jesus didn't give a Jesus didn't care whether or not Judas was a fucking traitor or not.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_00: He wasn't like, everyone get Judas.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_00: He didn't even mention his name, you know what I'm saying?
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's like even though he got killed and all that stuff, it doesn't matter because that's not what it's about.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's like even Judas is struggling.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_00: The I to me, people see the story of Judas as like, oh, there's a traitor, you shouldn't wash your back.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, no, no.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_00: The story to Judas is me saying, like, hey, even traitors are people and they need to be respected and they need to be brought up.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_00: So there's a lot of people who have to my face been like, oh, you're gonna make it.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_00: I love you, I'm gonna, you know, da da da da da.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_00: And then as soon as I turn my head, they're like, fuck Kaya, forget him.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I don't trust him.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_00: Matt fact, let me go fuck his girl.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_00: Matt fact, let me go do this and this and that.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, I could get upset, I could be upset.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a big black guy, like, I could fight in this sort of thing, but I'm not, I'm choosing not to even do that because it's like those people are doing that because of their hurt, they're insecure, whatever the reason is.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I could be, I could either feed into that energy and they have a validation for it, or I can be better and turn the cheek altogether, you know what I'm saying?
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_00: Right, and that's kind of the move, and that's kind of how I've been seeing haters, is that like I don't even, I'm never gonna mention names, but point is there's a lot of big people in the city that see me and are either and I don't I can't I'm not gonna speak for them, but for whatever reason, they don't like me, they don't want to put me on, even though at this point I've got a platform on the same size as them with no money, and so like it would only make sense for us to collaborate and do great things for the city, but ego holds them back, and I could be like, I could go online and be like, Man, fuck them, but instead I promote them, I share their videos, I like their comments, stuff like that.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_00: I send people to them, you know what I'm saying?
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_00: Because that's what you should do as a and I want to be a community leader.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_00: I like I have no disillusions about my position.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I at this point, when I say something on Facebook, people see it, and Facebook's stupid, I don't care about Facebook, but when I say something on Facebook, like I get tons of comments who of people who are affected by what I'm saying, like I get tons and tons of DMs talking about like, hey Kaya, that post or hey Kai, that song or whatever affected me.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like just yesterday, literally just yesterday, bro.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_00: Just yesterday, somebody hit me up and they were like, yo, I was finna kill myself.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I had gotten, I moved out of my apartment, I got rid of all my shit, I was gonna die.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_00: And he said, I listened to your music and I decided I don't want to kill myself.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, That's a lot, and I'm not saying I saved his life, I I just I just happen to be there, but it's just like fuck it.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like that kind of weight is serious.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_00: And imagine if I was all like, I don't care, or imagine if I was all like, oh, you know, I don't even repeat myself, being my point.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_00: Imagine if I was like that, those other people, you know.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like as a leader, as someone, even as someone who's not a leader, as someone who has influence at all.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's like you have a responsibility to treat everyone with respect.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_00: Now, that being said, although I try to do that, I'm human and I'm gonna talk my shit every once in a while.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna get angry, you know.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not perfect, like you know what I'm saying.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_00: There so if we if you see me saying, like, man, fuck that guy, that's just know I'm human.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_00: Just know that I, you know, I know what I should be doing, and I know what I try to do.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_02: So gotcha.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_02: Nice, man.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_02: I gotta wrap it up, man.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, this was amazing.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man.
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_02: I appreciate you coming on.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, thanks for sharing.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_02: Uh thank you.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_00: I really appreciate the platform, man.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, no problem.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no problem, man.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, thanks for coming on.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, where can where can we find you or can we listen to you?
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_02: Or uh how do how do you want to share?
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_00: Cool.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_00: You can look me up just Google, you can look me up on any platform there is, you can look me up on the news, you know what I'm saying?
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'll be there, I'll be in your home in a minute, you know.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_00: So we so if we go to Google, we type in word of mouth.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, if you look up word of mouth kai advance, you'll see like a thousand articles about me like it's crazy.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_02: Cool, cool, cool.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_02: All right, man.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_02: Well, if there's nothing else, you got anything else to share you want to share?
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_00: I love all of you.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_00: Well, oh, I have one thing, I have one thing, and then we're gonna end it.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yo, go ahead.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_00: So, this is the first excerpt in my book, and it's bitches are crazy, but so are niggas.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_00: And that's all I got.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's all right.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's all I got.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry, I missed it.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_02: Say it again.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_00: Bitches are crazy, but so are niggas.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but yeah.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_02: All right, man.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_02: All right, man.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you have a good day, stay warm, have a good one.