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Trial Looms for Scorned Hairstylist Accused of Hiring Hitman to Murder Ex & His Teen Daughter · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: Did a scorned hairstylist hire a hit man on Tender
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  Speaker 2: of all places to brutally assassinate her ex boyfriend and,
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  Speaker 2: wait for it.
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  Speaker 1: His teen daughter?
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  Speaker 2: This according to cops. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 3: A New Jersey woman is accused of attempting to hire
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  Speaker 3: a hitman off popular dating app Tender.
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  Speaker 1: Could this be?
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  Speaker 2: Did the scorned hairstylist want revenge so badly she wanted
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  Speaker 2: to assassinate her ex boyfriend and his teen daughter? How
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  Speaker 2: did the teen daughter get roped into this? You know,
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  Speaker 2: I've got an all star panel to make sense of
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  Speaker 2: what we know right now. But joining me in addition
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  Speaker 2: to an all star panel is a very special guest.
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  Speaker 2: This is a man, a former husband, a father, who
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  Speaker 2: endured a hit shot nine times when his ex wife
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  Speaker 2: wanted to gain control of money that was meant to
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  Speaker 2: raise their son. Joining me, Baron Lee, shot nine times,
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  Speaker 2: all ordered by your wife. Now, I've always been amazed, Baron.
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  Speaker 2: If I may call you that, I feel.
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  Speaker 1: Like I know you. We've discussed your case.
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  Speaker 2: I've talked to you and thought about you so many
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  Speaker 2: times since the incident. What went through your mind as
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  Speaker 2: you were lying there?
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you can.
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  Speaker 2: Process all of the facts that here you were just
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  Speaker 2: out in the parking lot, minding your own business. And
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  Speaker 2: why you, of all people, why were you assailed by
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  Speaker 2: unknown guys and shot nine times?
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  Speaker 1: What went through your mind?
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  Speaker 4: I realized diet at gaining moment, and then I was wondering,
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  Speaker 4: you know who? Actually, at the time I knew who
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  Speaker 4: who was ordering a hit on me. I just didn't
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  Speaker 4: know who the shooter was at the time.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you were shot point blank. I will never
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  Speaker 2: forget it. All in a bid by your ex wife
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  Speaker 2: to gain control of that money set aside to help
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  Speaker 2: raise your son. How has your son reacted to what
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  Speaker 2: happened to you, Baron?
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  Speaker 4: Well, my son's non mobile, nonverbal, so fortunately he doesn't
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  Speaker 4: have a trauma to deal with like other kids would
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  Speaker 4: have had to, so he has no idea what happened.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, Thank goodness that this did not weigh
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  Speaker 2: on his mind on top of everything else, and that
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  Speaker 2: was a considerable amount of money to help raise him
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  Speaker 2: to secure his future, which he is going to need.
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  Speaker 1: Why did she do it? Baron?
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  Speaker 4: H You know, I asked myself that every single day,
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  Speaker 4: I just say appears to it is what comes down.
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  Speaker 1: To guys, A guy that lived through a similar hit.
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  Speaker 1: But to the.
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  Speaker 2: Case in chief, baron, don't move. I want your take
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  Speaker 2: on this. First of all, take a listen. They were
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  Speaker 2: together for approximately a year and there was clearly problems
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  Speaker 2: in the relationship.
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  Speaker 5: During the detention here in Camden County, Assistant Prosecutor David
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  Speaker 5: Deets outlined a screenshot of a text message where Diorio
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  Speaker 5: negotiates the price for the hit. Another text message has
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  Speaker 5: the defendant discussing a prior attempt to hire someone to
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  Speaker 5: kill her. Ex recorded conversation between Diorio and the informant
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  Speaker 5: was also submitted.
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  Speaker 2: That from our friends at CBS News three, joining me
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  Speaker 2: as I said an all star panel straight out to
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  Speaker 2: Rodrigo terrehone Crime and Course reporter at the Philly Inquirer, Rodriguo,
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  Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. How did this whole
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  Speaker 2: thing start? It's my understanding that the would be killer
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  Speaker 2: is a scorned hairstylist, and we heard Elliot the get
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  Speaker 2: Go say there were problems in the relationship, but Rodrigue,
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  Speaker 2: their problems in every relationship. My husband as I like
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  Speaker 2: to say my current husband and I never had an
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  Speaker 2: argument until we had the twins, and then we immediately
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  Speaker 2: started arguing about how they would be raised. Practically every decision,
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  Speaker 2: what time to go to bed, how many bottles would
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  Speaker 2: you go in?
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  Speaker 1: The bottle? You name it?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, and that goes on today. That's our sole source
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  Speaker 2: of argument, what is best.
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  Speaker 1: For our children. So, yes, every relationship has ups and downs, but.
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  Speaker 6: Really, prosecutors say that the relationship, like the Comic County
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  Speaker 6: prosecutor mentioned earlier, between Jacqueline the Orio and Officer o'hanlan,
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  Speaker 6: started around a year ago and quickly turned pretty volatile.
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  Speaker 6: You know, there was a few months that seemed like
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  Speaker 6: the relationship was going and around August there was an
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  Speaker 6: allegation of restraining order that was filed by the officer
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  Speaker 6: against So things turns sour relatively quickly. The next month,
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  Speaker 6: the officer reported that his house was damaged by a
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  Speaker 6: Molotov cocktail that was thrown at it. There has not
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  Speaker 6: been any sort of clear link between the extra sold on.
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  Speaker 2: Just a second, Tetahan, you're putting the cart before the horse.
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  Speaker 2: I got to get into it, Okay, I know about
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  Speaker 2: the Molotov I know about the beginning of the relationship,
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  Speaker 2: but what I don't know about is the intricacies of
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  Speaker 2: that relationship.
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  Speaker 1: What went wrong? Why did they break up? Why couldn't
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  Speaker 1: she just move on?
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  Speaker 2: As my grandmother said, meant no offense to you, of course, Rodrigo,
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  Speaker 2: that men are like buses. Anyone will come along every
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  Speaker 2: fifteen minutes. So why does she fixate so much on
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  Speaker 2: the boyfriend to the extent she wanted him dead and
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  Speaker 2: wanted his teen daughter dead too. Did that come about, Rodrigo?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's unclear. Still, like I said, there was
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  Speaker 6: a few months where everything seemed to be going smoothly,
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  Speaker 6: and from one month to another there was some sort
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  Speaker 6: of volatility between them, some sort of intention to say
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  Speaker 6: the least, and there was a restraining order filed by
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  Speaker 6: the officer against the oreo, and the attorney for the
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  Speaker 6: oreo later said that there was also a restraining order
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  Speaker 6: that she filed against.
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  Speaker 7: Him that was later withdrawn.
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  Speaker 2: So there's straight out to Greg Moores following up on
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  Speaker 2: what Rodrigo Tara Han just said. Greg Moore's high profile
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  Speaker 2: lawyer joining us a Morse legal currently.
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  Speaker 1: Counsel to the SEI. A. Well, you've got.
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  Speaker 2: Your hands full, Greg, dueling tros down'd you just love that?
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  Speaker 2: And of course I'm being sarcastic when a real victim
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  Speaker 2: comes into court for a temporary restraining order and what
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  Speaker 2: is the other one.
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  Speaker 1: To race back in to go? Uhh, I'm not a fault.
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  Speaker 1: It's them all of this going on.
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  Speaker 2: When I see dueling restraining orders, that's a bad sign.
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  Speaker 2: It's not going to get any better, Greg Morse, Dueling.
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  Speaker 7: Tros are a defense lawyer's dream. It means both people
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  Speaker 7: are claiming to be victims, both people are claiming to
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  Speaker 7: be the abuser. It shows a history of back and forth.
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  Speaker 7: So this is a volatile relationship from both folks in
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  Speaker 7: this situation.
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  Speaker 2: You know, my guess is they There is no evidence
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  Speaker 2: that the victim was volatile.
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  Speaker 1: The victim was a cop, by the way. But that said, he's.
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  Speaker 2: Not the one that ordered a hit according to police,
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  Speaker 2: he's not the one that went on Tender, a dating
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  Speaker 2: site if you want to.
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  Speaker 1: Call it that. That's a hookup site, that's what that is.
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  Speaker 2: But that said, he didn't go on Tender and pretend
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  Speaker 2: he was looking for.
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  Speaker 1: A date and goes, oh, by the way, can you
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  Speaker 1: meet me.
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  Speaker 2: At wah Wah's Grocery so I can pay you to
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  Speaker 2: shoot my ex. That wasn't him, that's her Moores, So
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  Speaker 2: don't tune up. First thing, I ask you about tros
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  Speaker 2: and you try to say it's the victim's fault.
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  Speaker 1: Does it never end with you?
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  Speaker 7: No, it's not that they're both victims. They both had tros,
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  Speaker 7: and people withdraw them all the time because they get
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  Speaker 7: back together and then they have them all to would
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  Speaker 7: the victim?
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  Speaker 2: Could you just explain what maybe you know? Let me
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  Speaker 2: direct you to Webster's Dictionary. And I don't mean online,
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  Speaker 2: you need the hard copy.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think victim means? How is she a victim?
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  Speaker 2: He goes to get a tro and she's like, race,
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  Speaker 2: this is to the courthouse.
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  Speaker 1: I'm first, I'm first judged. Call me first. How is
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  Speaker 1: she the victim? He broke up with her.
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  Speaker 2: And she could stand it in order to hint to
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  Speaker 2: kill him.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever been to a murder scene?
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  Speaker 2: Have you smelled and coagulated blood? Because I have, and
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  Speaker 2: I hope I never do again.
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  Speaker 1: That's what she wanted.
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  Speaker 7: I've been to quite a few and have gotten plenty
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  Speaker 7: of not guilty. The murder cases we have in this case.
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  Speaker 2: How you managed to merge a dead body with you
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  Speaker 2: getting a not guilty. Excuse me, Jackie, could you toot
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  Speaker 2: his horn for him? No, he's doing that himself.
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  Speaker 1: You are asking you about how he's the thing she
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  Speaker 1: wanted him dead on the ground with his team dead.
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  Speaker 7: Nancy, you have a cl on their own for four days,
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  Speaker 7: creating this story. Potentially the defense has something to work
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  Speaker 7: with here. When have you ever heard of a CI
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  Speaker 7: doing their own kind of case on Tinder and then
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  Speaker 7: all of a sudden going to the police four days later.
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  Speaker 7: That creates opportunities?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you know I got a wonderful answer for you. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: and her name as Dahlia Dippolito. Are you actually asking
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  Speaker 2: me how does a CI confidential? You know, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: impressed by you throwing around cop talk. Everybody that's watching
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  Speaker 2: crime stories knows CI is a confidential informant. But thank
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  Speaker 2: you for trying. Okay, Next, what are you going to
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  Speaker 2: throw a Latin phrase at me that said.
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  Speaker 7: You're looking at Are you usual.
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  Speaker 2: For a CI to go online to traffic killer? Because
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  Speaker 2: it's not is that what you're saying?
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  Speaker 7: No, but it doesn't seem like from the police report
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  Speaker 7: that the police were involved in this the first four days.
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  Speaker 7: So what they have a meeting in a day?
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  Speaker 1: God, they did get involved.
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  Speaker 2: No, put your feet to the fire, Morse, because you
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  Speaker 2: said what CI, which is an arm of LA law
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  Speaker 2: enforcement goes online to traffic killer?
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  Speaker 1: Who would do that? Hey? Listen to this? Do you
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  Speaker 1: know how many times I've watched that?
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  Speaker 2: And there's a longer version two, which I will absolutely play. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: Dahlia Dippolito hires a hitman to murder her husband, and
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  Speaker 2: as in this case with the Molotov cocktail that Rodrigo
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  Speaker 2: Tetahan was telling us about and prior attempts, it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: her first try.
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  Speaker 1: According to Ellie, she tried to poison her husband in
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  Speaker 1: a Starbucks.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not even going to mention that she was a hooker, okay,
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  Speaker 2: because that's neither here nor there.
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  Speaker 1: Before she got married and he took her away from
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  Speaker 1: all that.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, they stinger, Why did they stinger because they had
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  Speaker 2: l E law enforcement as the would be assassin. Same
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  Speaker 2: thing as here, and Morrise, you're acting like you've never
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  Speaker 2: heard anything like it, Like it's a big entrapment to
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  Speaker 2: John Pizzorro, former in New Jersey State Police investigator twenty
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  Speaker 2: five years.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot going down in New Jersey.
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  Speaker 2: Homicide, organized crime, cartels, commander of the Internet, crimes against children,
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  Speaker 2: It goes on and on. Currently, CEO of RAVEN focused
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  Speaker 2: on eliminating child exploitation and trafficking.
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  Speaker 1: John, you've certainly seen it all.
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  Speaker 2: But did you happen to hear Greg Morris, who is
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  Speaker 2: a veteran defense attorney, as he so timidly put forth,
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  Speaker 2: I've won a lot of cases, he says, did you
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  Speaker 2: hear him say how odd it is for elie law enforcement,
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  Speaker 2: an agent a CI to be part of a sting.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, who is this woman going to hire to
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  Speaker 1: kill her ex? Ann?
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  Speaker 2: Will you priest a virgin? No, somebody that acts like
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  Speaker 2: a hitman.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, we use them all the time. I mean informants.
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  Speaker 8: And by the way, I love the entrapment argument because
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  Speaker 8: that's the first thing defense counsel does, entrapment. But the
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  Speaker 8: reality is, I can't tell you how many times people
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  Speaker 8: actually came up to us, you know, in an undercover capacity,
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  Speaker 8: and to hire a hit person. I mean, the only
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  Speaker 8: difference between years ago today is that there's apps to
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  Speaker 8: do it where you don't have to go to the
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  Speaker 8: Yellow Pages. Is a little easier just to ask someone
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  Speaker 8: to do something.
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  Speaker 3: Jacqueline Diorio is a twenty six year old New Jersey
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  Speaker 3: woman accused of attempting to murder her cop ex boyfriend
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  Speaker 3: by hiring a hit man off Tinder.
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  Speaker 1: We know these two love birds.
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  Speaker 2: Met when the defendant, the suspect, the hairstylist, was actually
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  Speaker 2: doing the victim's hair.
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  Speaker 1: That's how they met. Let's see what more we know. Listen.
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  Speaker 5: Jacqueline Diorio, twenty six, lives in run A Meede, New Jersey,
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  Speaker 5: making her living as a barber. She hits it off
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  Speaker 5: with one of her clients, a police officer twice her age.
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  Speaker 5: They began dating. Their relationship lasts just over a year,
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  Speaker 5: but not without problems. Problems so bad that Diorio asked
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  Speaker 5: for and got a restraining order put in place. She
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  Speaker 5: later dropped the complaint. After the breakup, Diorio started looking
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  Speaker 5: at dating apps, specifically Tender. A match is made and
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  Speaker 5: Diorio makes plans to meet her new friend for the
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  Speaker 5: first time at.
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  Speaker 1: A wall wall.
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  Speaker 5: They exchange numbers and communicate through text messages and phone calls.
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  Speaker 2: Okay to you, John Pizzorro, former New Jersey State Police
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  Speaker 2: twenty five years Wow, okay, Pisorro. I've heard of first dates,
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  Speaker 2: and I always advise people when you meet online, you
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  Speaker 2: should meet somewhere public.
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  Speaker 1: But wah waws. That should have been a tip off
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  Speaker 1: right there.
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  Speaker 2: My sister and Philly used to live in a building
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  Speaker 2: on top at the bottom of the building.
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  Speaker 1: It was in grad towers at the Wharton School. There
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  Speaker 1: was a wah wah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's not really a romantic setting for your
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  Speaker 2: first date, is it?
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  Speaker 1: Was that a tip off? I mean, wahwas Well, it.
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  Speaker 8: Is Tinder, Nancy, so I mean, you know, and there
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  Speaker 8: is a lot of wildwaws in New Jersey, so I
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  Speaker 8: guess the old Starbucks is out these days, you know too.
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Sherry Schwartz now joining us. She's been chomping at
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  Speaker 2: the bit hearing all of this. She's a forensic psychologist
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  Speaker 2: and she specializes in capital mitigation and victim advocacy, and
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  Speaker 2: you can find her at panthermitigation dot com. She's the
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  Speaker 2: author of Criminal Behavior and the one I like the best,
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  Speaker 2: where law and psychology Intersecty Schwartz, I mean, this could
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  Speaker 2: be a total case study for you, because, for instance,
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  Speaker 2: what led up, what fueled the hatred and this hairstylist
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  Speaker 2: heart that she wanted not only her boyfriend for Pete's saint.
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  Speaker 1: They're not even married.
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  Speaker 2: They don't even have to divide property, they don't have
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  Speaker 2: to fight over custody.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have to decide who gets the pots.
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  Speaker 2: And pans and who gets the crock pot, none of that.
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  Speaker 2: But it's so contentious she wants him dead and not
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  Speaker 2: just thinking, doctor Sherry, oh, I could just kill him,
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  Speaker 2: not that actually going online, in hiring someone to commit
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  Speaker 2: double murder and on a teen girl, a little girl.
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  Speaker 2: What is that, Doctor Sherry.
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  Speaker 9: It's pure unadulterated hatred, fueled by the fact that it
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  Speaker 9: seems like he broke up with her. The relationship was volatile,
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  Speaker 9: he didn't want to have a relationship with her anymore,
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  Speaker 9: and it sounds like she probably arrived at the conclusion
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  Speaker 9: that if I can't.
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  Speaker 7: Have you, nobody will.
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  Speaker 9: I don't understand why his teenage daughter had to be
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  Speaker 9: involved in that unless she thought it was possible the
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  Speaker 9: teenage daughter could later identify that she would be the
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  Speaker 9: one trying to have him murdered. But this is somebody
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  Speaker 9: who has no regard for human life.
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  Speaker 1: Guys. What happens?
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  Speaker 2: They start up a romantic relationship, it goes sour, they
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  Speaker 2: break up, She files for Tiroro and then almost immediately
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  Speaker 2: drops it.
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  Speaker 1: What was that about? Was that a way to play
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  Speaker 1: the system? But it progresses.
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  Speaker 5: Listen During the Oreo's text conversation with her tender date,
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  Speaker 5: she reveals she's not really looking for love, but rather
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  Speaker 5: a hitman.
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  Speaker 10: And imp who was working with a longer and say
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  Speaker 10: they recently met a female wanted beating at Tinder. The
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  Speaker 10: female and entered by herself to the informant as d Well,
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  Speaker 10: which was later identified as the defendants tender name defend
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  Speaker 10: The informant then met at a lawa and running Meat.
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  Speaker 10: Subsequently defendant any informant exchange the numbrous text messages and
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  Speaker 10: phone calls.
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  Speaker 2: During these text.
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  Speaker 10: Messages and phone call conversations, that's defendant and totally informant
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  Speaker 10: that she wanted.
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  Speaker 7: Her to ex boyfriend kill.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out when love turns into hate,
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  Speaker 2: and when hate turns in to the desire for murder,
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  Speaker 2: and when that desire leads you to commit and act.
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  Speaker 2: Now to Greg Morris joining me, who has won a
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  Speaker 2: lot of cases. Is named partner at Morse Legal and
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  Speaker 2: also current counsel to the CIA Greg and an attempt case,
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  Speaker 2: an attempted murder or an attempted anything. There are very
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  Speaker 2: often conspiracy charges. A conspiracy cannot be, as you and
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  Speaker 2: I have argued in court many times, unless you have
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  Speaker 2: an overt act. I could sit around all day and think, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I want to kill Greg Morris so bad.
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  Speaker 1: How would I do it? What would I do?
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  Speaker 2: That's just wishful thinking, that's daydreaming talking about it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: rise to conspiracy. But you must have an overt ov
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  Speaker 2: ert act in order to.
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  Speaker 1: Prove your case.
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  Speaker 2: And here that overt act is going on tender, meeting
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  Speaker 2: someone but still not enough, but then persuading him to
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  Speaker 2: do a hit. There's your overt act right there. In
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: a conspiracy charge.
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: Well, there is an overt act there. However, again, those
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: first four days, when she's interacting with this guy on
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: tender and they're talking, that leaves a lot of room
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: for argument for the defense, just like they seem to
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: be indicating. It's not something that and you know this
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: God becomes a CI after the four days, not before,
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: and that creates opportunity. You also can argue the five
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: hundred dollars it's no word ask although paying for a
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: Hittman on layaway as odd, but that seems to be
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: what the prosecution is alleging here.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: You know, Greg Morris, when you say that leaves a
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: lot of wiggle room. Can we just get real about
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: what you're arguing. I believe trying to read the tea
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: leaves of what you just said that you're trying to
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: argue that it was the informant's idea that we can
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: somehow claim entrapment.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: In other words, she would never have.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Come up with a plot to murder her ex and
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: his teen daughter but for the CI luring her into it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: That's what entrapment means. I would never have done this
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: except the cops planned it. They lured me in, and
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: now they're prosecuting me. I would never have done this
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: on my own. That is what entrapment is. Are you
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: trying to blame the CI the confidential informant?
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: Well, the defense has to do something in this case,
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: and like it out there, there was a.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Little storing there. When you're trying to come up with the.
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: Argument, what listen, this is you have four days of
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: a civilian being on their own and then they go
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: to the police and say, hey, this lady wants to
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: kill her husband. Who knows what that guy's trying to
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: work off in his past or why he presented himself
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: to the police to be used. But as far as
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: all accounts, Nancy, this guy was a civilian like you
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: and I for four dates. He packaged this and then
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: brought it over to the law enforcement. So yeah, I
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: would live and die in those four or eight days
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: as a defense lawyer.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: And you know, you got a little problem, Greg Morris,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: you got a little tiny eight c C fly in
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: the ointment. Here's the problem, Rodrigo Tetrahan. Isn't it true
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: that the defendant actually wrote texts to the CI that
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: prove what she wants. It's not just his word against hers.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: She wrote texts.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: They're clearly from her phone about the hit.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: Yes, the prosecutors at the last hearing did read back
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: text messages between the CI and the Oreo where Diorio
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: allegedly goes over.
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: Proof.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: She asked for proof because, in her own words, she
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: said that she had been sent fake pictures before, which
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: alludes to prior attempts to carry out this hit.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: She gives me, I.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Just choked just a tiny bit white white. Hold on,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Can I see Greg Morris right now? As Rodrigo? Okay,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: could you repeat that, Rodrigo? What you just said? She
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: said what in her text to the confidential informant.
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: Prosecutors read text between the CI and Diorio where she
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: mentions that she needs hard proof for this hit that
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: she wants carried out and alludes to having been sent
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: fake pictures in a prior attempt. This is of course
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: through text messages that were read out in court at
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: the detention hearing two weeks ago.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Out that's got to hurt Morse.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: That really has to hurt She's sending him text describe
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: me how a previous hit man failed her and burned
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: her by sending her fake photos.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Of the hit.
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: Well, people become defendants because they're not that bright. However,
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: people text a lot of things. It doesn't mean they're
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: going to act on it. In the news right now,
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: is NFL Hall of Famer Shannon Sharp. He have some
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: negative texts in the lawsuit against him, and he wasn't
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: going to He said, I wasn't going to joke anybody.
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: So people text a lot of things, you know, so
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: you have to look at that and try to turn
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: that around as a bluster and just talking.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: A woman from New Jersey attempted to hire a hitman
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: off Tinder to kill both her cop ex boyfriend and
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: his nineteen year old daughter. Were just twelve thousand dollars.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Joining me in All Star panel. We've been going back and.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Forth with Greg Morse about his theory that it's all
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: the CI Confidential Informant's fault, that this woman hair stylist,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: scorned lover really would never have ordered a hit on
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: her boyfriend if not for the CI alluring her into it.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: But those text messages that she sent the CI that
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: she met at wahwaz on a date.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: When he gets so, she goes, guess what, I.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Don't want a date. I want to hit man. How
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: about you? Those text messages are damning. And not only
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: are they damning, they make.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: A great identification. Listen the debate.
• 24:40
  Speaker 10: Dentally informant that her ex boyfriend is a Philadelphia police officer.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: And provided his need.
• 24:46
  Speaker 10: The defendon also provide the informant the telephone number of
• 24:49
  Speaker 10: the police officer's teenage daughter.
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: The informantive dead men with.
• 24:53
  Speaker 10: Detected Durham, but the Candy County Proster's Office Major Crimes
• 24:56
  Speaker 10: Unit and the informant of providing Detective Durham with a
• 25:00
  Speaker 10: sure of the defendant from her tender profile. The informant
• 25:04
  Speaker 10: also provided the Detective Durnam of the defendants teleorma.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Wow, Rodrigo terrejan joining us from Crime and Courts reporting
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: at the Philadelphia Inquirer. Rodrigo again, thank you for being
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: with us. So she didn't even use a burner phone.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: She used her own phone to text with who she
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: thought was a CI, therefore giving up her identity.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Unless she wants to try to claim.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Somebody else had her phone or somehow impersonating her, she
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: used her own phone, Rodrigo.
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what it seems like. Prosecutors said that the
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: phone number and a photo of the Oreo were both
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: shown to the officer that she had allegedly tried to
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: have killed through this hitmap, and he confirmed both that
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: it was her in the photo and that that was
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: the number that they had used to communicate. So this,
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: according to what prosecutors have dug up, was her own
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: phone number.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Well, it gets worse for her listen if it.
• 26:03
  Speaker 10: Was interviewed and told the detective Deuram that the defendant
• 26:06
  Speaker 10: was adamant about killing the victim. Informant stated they which
• 26:10
  Speaker 10: they spoke about money, and that the defender stated, you
• 26:12
  Speaker 10: were willing to pay twelve.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Thousand dollars in cash.
• 26:15
  Speaker 10: During the conversations, defendant also told the informant that she
• 26:19
  Speaker 10: wanted the victim's teenage daughter killed as well.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: The defendant told.
• 26:23
  Speaker 10: The informant she could pay five hundred dollars a front
• 26:25
  Speaker 10: and the rest being the installments.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Doctor Sherry Schwartz, joining US forensic psychologist, Doctor Sherry, the
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: defendant the hairstylist, the scorn hairstylist reiterated over and.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Over she was sure she.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Wanted the hit to go down, adamant, adamant, insistent that
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: it happens, and again, I must compare it to the
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Dahlia Dippolito, Okays, where she says that I believe she's
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: five thousand percent sure she wants her husband dead, and
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: it's all caught on tape.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Of course, listen.
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: Now, and when he's done, you know, not change your money.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: But if you change your money, no, no, like like
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: well five thousand to five thousand percent.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Sure, that's for our friends at ABC twenty twenty.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: What does that mean, Sherry Schwartz, I mean the CI
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: gives the defendant opportunity to turn back, opportunity to go.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: You know what, this is crazy talk. I don't want
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: to do this, but instead they are adamant. They are
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: hell bent on murder.
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: That's that's exactly what it is. That she wanted the
• 27:43
  Speaker 9: job done, She was willing to pay for it. She did,
• 27:47
  Speaker 9: in fact, put a down payment on it. And that
• 27:50
  Speaker 9: is an indication that you are serious and you want
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: this done. And like it was previously mentioned, this is
• 27:55
  Speaker 9: somebody who, by her own admission, made a prior attempt
• 28:00
  Speaker 9: and was duped according to her. So this is somebody
• 28:04
  Speaker 9: who's had some time to think about it and is
• 28:06
  Speaker 9: one that she wants this done.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Joining us is a survivor, and that doesn't begin to
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: describe what he went through.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Baron Lee is with us.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: He was shot point blank range, shot nine times by
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: teens hired by his wife to murder him.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: As I recall, you were going to your car and
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: they swarmed you.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: You were shot nine times and lived all over money
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: that was meant that was earmarked to raise their disabled son.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: She wanted that money. At any point when you two
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: were having a.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Contentious split, did you ever get the sense that she
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: would want you dead?
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I actually had gone through a couple incidents where
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: she tried to run me over with the vehicle, and
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: so when I was shot, I already knew it was
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: her who was behind it.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: But when you say that you knew she was behind it,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: let me refine my question. When did you get a
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: sense or an inkling that she wanted you dead? As
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: you were lying there on the pavement bleeding out, you
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: knew at that moment that she was.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Behind the hit.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: You weren't wronged, you weren't sex molested, you know, it
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: wasn't a car jag, nothing like that. This was obviously
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: a hit on you specifically, and you knew then as
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: you were bleeding out who did it. But leading up
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: to that, was there a moment where you were actually
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: afraid or thought, you know, she wants me dead?
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, like I said, we had a five
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: year you know, contention of custody with my son, and
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: during that time she had attempted to run me over
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: twice during child exchanges, So you know, to the first time, I,
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: you know, just chucked it off that first a just
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: being angry. When she tried to run me over the
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: second time, I realized that definitely she wanted I guess this.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Case is bringing back a lot of bad memories because,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: according to reports, this is not Diorio's first attempt.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: We've got the Molotov cocktail incident.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: That many attribute to her that has not been proven
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: in a court of law, and she's innocent until proven guilty.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Then we have her telling the CI don't burn me.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I've been burned before with fakes, with lies by hitman.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: In your case, there were multiple attempts as well. Did
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: you feel invincible? Did you believe you would never be killed?
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: No, of course not.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: But you know, this woman sounds just like my ex wife.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Looks like she's not going to stop until she can
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: get the job done. Even after my ex wife peg
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: gott and she found out that I survived, she was
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: actually working with the teenagers to have them come back
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: for a second attempt. So I'm sure this woman has
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: the same kind of mindset that you know. If left
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: to her devices, she was going to get this job
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: done one way or another.
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: During the recording conversations.
• 31:20
  Speaker 10: Wells previous conversation with the informative defendant discusses her desire
• 31:24
  Speaker 10: to have teenage daughter of her ex boyfriend killed.
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: First, while then followed by the victim of the boyfriend.
• 31:32
  Speaker 10: The reason that the defendant gave is the order of
• 31:34
  Speaker 10: killings was that she wanted to kill the victim's teenage
• 31:36
  Speaker 10: daughter because the killing the police officer would draw too
• 31:39
  Speaker 10: much screwtiny from Lawnborce and well not as much lawmfors
• 31:42
  Speaker 10: and resources would be dedicated to investigating the den an
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: officer's daughter.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: What did I just hear that incorrectly?
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: To Rodrigo Tetrjane joining us from Philadelphia, Inquirer Rodrigo, that's
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: why she wanted the teen daughter killed At first? When
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I started investigating the case, I thought it was because
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: she was jealous of attention or love given to the
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: teen daughter.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: It wasn't that at Oh, this woman might as well
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: be a lizard. Her blood is cold. Explain why she
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: wanted the daughter killed first?
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: Sure, so, according to what prosecutors said, and you heard
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: it right there, she was very methodical about the order
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: in which she wanted these two people killed. She knew,
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: according to prosecutors that the assassination of a police officer
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: would bring unwanted attention. So she made it very clear,
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: according to prosecutors, that she wanted the daughter killed first,
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: the teen daughter killed first, and then the Philadelphia police
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: officer to mitigate the attention that would be focused in
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: on these hits.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Amazing the way she planned this out, doctor Sherry Schwartz.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: That is some cold blood, methodical planning right there. Reasoning
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: as to why she wanted the girl killed first.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: That's what she says.
• 33:04
  Speaker 9: I actually think there's some a darker motive for why
• 33:07
  Speaker 9: she wanted the daughter killed first. I think that she
• 33:10
  Speaker 9: was looking to hurt her ex boyfriend and she wanted
• 33:14
  Speaker 9: him to suffer before she ultimately had him murdered.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Wow, to increase the suffering of the boyfriend. How is
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: it again, doctor Sherry. I can understand all the hatred
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: that must brew, must percolate and boil over and say
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: a long term marriage, But here there was no property division,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: There was no custody argument, no pots and pans, no
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: dog to argue, nothing. How could you develop such intense
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: hatred and just a brief dating relationship.
• 33:50
  Speaker 9: I mean, this is somebody who maybe came to the
• 33:52
  Speaker 9: relationship with that level of hatred. It's hard to say.
• 33:57
  Speaker 9: There isn't anything specific that I saw in researching the
• 34:00
  Speaker 9: case that cites a reason that he did something to
• 34:03
  Speaker 9: her that maybe would cause her to have such bitter
• 34:07
  Speaker 9: antipathy toward him. But sometimes people come as they are,
• 34:13
  Speaker 9: and that may be a reason that the relationship didn't
• 34:15
  Speaker 9: work out.
• 34:16
  Speaker 10: The most concerning aspect of the facts that this case,
• 34:18
  Speaker 10: involving the fact that he disappears not to be an
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: isolated attempt by the defendant to contract someone to kill
• 34:24
  Speaker 10: the victim. As evidence, an escort, which is a text
• 34:27
  Speaker 10: message screenshot between the defendant and the informative.
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: Defend states as she had people.
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: Looking at in the eye and lie before and how
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: is she going to get proved?
• 34:38
  Speaker 10: She also says that fake pictures could be said to her,
• 34:41
  Speaker 10: and how is she.
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: Going to believe that that the victim was in fact dead, and.
• 34:45
  Speaker 10: How she said someone who previously said her fake pictures before?
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Gray.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: Jennifer Emmy, a well known lawyer defending animal rights, now
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: has to defend herself against allegations she ordered to hit
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: on her ex husband's new girlfriend after the couple's nasty divorce.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: A hand at Emmy's nonprofit ranch went to the police.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: Well the recording of Emmy asking if he knew anyone
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: who could take care of her ex's much younger new girlfriend,
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: during which she said, no one will miss her. If
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: someone could help me get rid of her.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: It's amazing to me.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Amazing in the sense that when you go to the
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: snakehouse at the zoo you look at the snakes through
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: a thick glass wall, or looking at a tarantula in
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: a box. Amazing in that sense that not only according
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: to the state, of course.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Dioryo is innocent, he'll prove the guilty.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: According to the state, she wanted not only her boyfriend
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: ex boyfriend, but his teen daughter dead.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Two. In the case of attorney.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Jennifer Emmy, she wanted the girlfriend of her ex murdered.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: That's a whole different psychopathy. And in this case, Greg Morris,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: you've got both, according to prosecution. Now a great defense
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: attorney like you may be able to convince the jury.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Oh this was all just talk. She didn't mean it,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: she didn't really want it to happen, But we do
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: have her.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: According to the prosecutors, handing over a down payment of
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: five hundred.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Dollars at Dollar General. She picks the.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Places right where you know there's going to be surveillance
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: video the handover is it Dollar General? And wawas they're
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: like Vegas for Pete's say they're covered and oh my goodness,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: yeah they're over in security video. I guess you didn't
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: think that part through. But they desire to have not
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: only your object of hatred murdered, but then an innocent
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: person who's getting dragged into it.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you could probably.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Argue to a jury's all just talk. She didn't really
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: want it to happen. She didn't know what she was saying.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Don't prosecute her, don't send her to jail. I can
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: hear it right now. But that's a whole another layer
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: of evil. You don't just want your hate object. Did
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: you want people around them? Did? Well?
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: I think you're right, and what we've said before, it
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: was probably to harm the ex boy friend to see
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: his daughter killed first, and then you know he has
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: to suffer that. But you also, you know you have
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: a situation here where folks what they think in their head,
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: it's going to be like when they pull a trigger
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: or in this case, try to hire someone to kill someone.
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: The reality though of that and how that plays out
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: is totally different, as we see in all these cases,
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: whether it's dip Alito, whether it's the Oreo, They're on
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: surveillance cameras, they have phones registered in their name. These
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: are folks that aren't making the smartest choices, right.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: So, but I also think that that doesn't make the
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: victim any less dead.
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: Morse, Well, there's nobody dead here, and maybe it was
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: because she was only was it allows of PAM that
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: was found in her car. She's charged with that also
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: drug count so and she also offered five hundred.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Dollars please put him hit on.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Actually trying to argue it all that they the illegal
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: use of drugs is somehow a defense as opposed to
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: an additional felony charge. We all know all the legal
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: that voluntary use of drugs are alcoholism ever a defense?
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: No, no, no, But it doesn't mean it can't lead
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  Speaker 7: to some break with reality or there's some impact on her.
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  Speaker 7: She was acting weird. Anyone that's had a loved one
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  Speaker 7: who's been under a lot of anesthesia knows when you
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  Speaker 7: come out of it sometimes you're going to have some
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: mental issues. You're going to see the world differently, You're
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: going to see the world wrong. Maybe she had an
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: impact on that because somehow comparing this.
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  Speaker 2: And when I videoed the twins after they had the
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Wistar teeth cut out, No, I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean it never ends with you. You're actually giving me
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: a headache right now, Well.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Medic medication, Okay, medication, Medication's mind that Rodrigo Tetahan joining
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  Speaker 2: us from Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 1: Inquirer. Where does the case stand now? What's happening?
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: Sure, so there is a next hearing schedule for middle
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: of June. Right now, do Rio is in custody without bails,
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: so she's basically in jail until her next court hearing.
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: I've attempted to reach the officer that is allegedly the
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: target of this hit attempt have been unable to reach
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  Speaker 6: him or his family. And that's really where it stands.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 6: The detention hearing was basically to figure out if she
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: would be released because she has no prior criminal record.
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: Of course, the judge sided with the prosecutor's office and
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: said we're going to go give no bail and she's
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: going to be in custody until her next year.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: If you know or think you know anything about the
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: alleged attempt on the officer's life or he has daughter's life.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: The case is still being built by the state. Eight
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  Speaker 2: five six two two five five one two seven repeat
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  Speaker 2: eight five six two two five five to one to seven.
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  Speaker 2: Now we remember an American hero police officer, Christopher Kilcullen, EGENPD, Oregon,
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  Speaker 2: shot and killed in a line of duty twelve years
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  Speaker 2: with law enforcement, leaving me hein widow Christie, daughters Sydney
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  Speaker 2: and Katie Anne. American hero officer Jay Christopher kil Cohen
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  Speaker 2: Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend,