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September 8, 2025 (Hour 2) · Zone 1150 - Chip Howard's SportsTalk

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Speaker 1: here as normal, anxious to kind of get you guys' thoughts.
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Speaker 2: On this last week. And then we'll look at Notre Dame.
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Speaker 8: I thought A and M was improved, but I actually
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Speaker 8: expect more improvement than I saw, particularly on defense. The
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Speaker 8: fact that they allowed two touchdown drives to a team
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Speaker 8: that and that concerns me when you're at home and
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Speaker 8: you've got to go on the road. And that being
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Speaker 8: said is it's hard to be picky when you win
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Speaker 8: by twenty two. But that's why they pay me to
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Speaker 8: be picky. And I thought the defense should have been better.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I thought it was just a whole home kind
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Speaker 9: of took care of business, didn't do anything that was
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Speaker 9: just really totally spectacular.
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Speaker 5: There wasn't a lot that.
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Speaker 9: I didn't like, except maybe the way they came out
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Speaker 9: of the half on both sides of go you know.
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Speaker 9: I mean, they gave up the touchdown drive and then
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Speaker 9: they came out and they didn't do anything with ball offensively,
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Speaker 9: and that's the second straight week they've done that, and
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Speaker 9: so that's a little alarming. I'd like to see them
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Speaker 9: come out of the locker room in a little flow state.
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Speaker 8: So thank you.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I catches how I gotta I go.
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Speaker 10: Too.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just trying to get there, man.
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Speaker 9: Sometimes you know, when I'm riding, I'm always looking for
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Speaker 9: that flow state.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: I thought both weeks they had a chance to kill somebody.
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Speaker 8: That's very fair. Fair to them. And you see all
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Speaker 8: across some of these teams are beating people sixty nine.
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Speaker 8: And don't get me wrong, I don't think people should
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Speaker 8: run up the score, and the sportsmanship does still matter
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Speaker 8: in my book, but they had chances to put the team,
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Speaker 8: both teams away earlier and didn't do it. And that's
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Speaker 8: the thing, because you're not gonna get too many chances.
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Speaker 8: Now you're going to be in the SEC and so
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Speaker 8: suddenly when you don't, when you have a lullaby, so
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Speaker 8: to speak, the other team's going to score points.
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Speaker 9: Well, one week ago today, I think Chip asked me
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Speaker 9: what I want to see, and I said I wanted
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Speaker 9: to see Miles O'Neil, but I didn't want to see
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Speaker 9: him come and after an injury, right right, No, And
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Speaker 9: I was like, you know.
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Speaker 5: Because Marcel Reid's was still out there because the ANDHM
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Speaker 5: hadn't done enough correct And you know, I mean he wasn't.
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Speaker 2: I don't think.
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Speaker 9: Elko was satisfied with what they had done, and so
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Speaker 9: that's the reason he was out there so long. So
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Speaker 9: I did see Miles red. I saw one really good pass.
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Speaker 9: I saw Miles O'Neil, uh, thank you. I saw one
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Speaker 9: really good pass. I saw one really horrific pass. I
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Speaker 9: mean it's like, did he not see them? I was like,
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Speaker 9: oh my gosh, did you see it?
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Speaker 8: One time? He had happy feet so bad I was laughing,
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Speaker 8: and I mean the guy the kid out of me
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Speaker 8: jacked up because the game mattered at that point. Yeah,
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Speaker 8: and he had such happy feet. But I think it
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Speaker 8: was touchdown not long after that. But I'm saying, and it.
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Speaker 5: Was a beautiful path it was.
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Speaker 8: He had such happy feet and I'm laughing. I he's
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Speaker 8: just excited.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I like it when you're moving your
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Speaker 9: feed like that and then but maybe you got to
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Speaker 9: set before you throw the football. But that's one thing.
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Speaker 9: Is Peyton Manning did you know so so well? It's
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Speaker 9: like hop in moving his feet, you know, and then
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Speaker 9: he plan it and go, so you know, I mean.
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Speaker 5: I think that's a that's a style.
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Speaker 9: I kid looked good, really good, except you know, he
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Speaker 9: had that one just horrific pass right to the linebacker.
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Speaker 1: I like the five running backs right now. You know,
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Speaker 1: they don't seem to lose a lot no matter who's
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Speaker 1: in the game.
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Speaker 5: I don't think E. J.
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Speaker 9: Smith is the same caliber as the other thing or not.
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Speaker 9: But I mean he's not that far off.
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Speaker 8: Blocks well, he does, and he's not good pass has
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Speaker 8: done enough.
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Speaker 2: But I'm not comparing. I'm not comparing him to his dad.
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Speaker 2: That's not fair.
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Speaker 1: But the style when you see him kind of underneath
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Speaker 1: the pile and.
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Speaker 2: Getting two or three extra yards.
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Speaker 1: His dad made a living doing that, and so I
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Speaker 1: I kind of enjoy that. I like the fact that
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Speaker 1: so far, and I mentioned this in the first hour,
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Speaker 1: Marcel Reid has not been running for his life a
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Speaker 1: lot these two games.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: Again, I understand the caliber of who they're playing, but
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Speaker 1: I but we've seen that before. It wouldn't matter who
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Speaker 1: the caliber they were playing. So I do like that he's.
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Speaker 2: Been relatively unhurried in the pocket so far.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, they tell you, And I like it when he
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Speaker 9: has a design run, he really gets it going. Yeah,
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Speaker 9: I mean I think you know, he's not afraid to
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Speaker 9: plant the foot and go, and you know that's I.
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Speaker 5: Think that's a show of maturity as a quarterback.
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Speaker 1: Him growing up, he hadn't taken a lot of hard hits,
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Speaker 1: yet he seems to know so far.
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Speaker 5: I couldn't even figure when what injury. It didn't look
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Speaker 5: that bad, you could, I could.
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Speaker 2: Then they fell on him somehow awkward itself.
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Speaker 8: It could be a stir and shoulder, be a lot
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Speaker 8: of things where he was and the guy went in low.
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Speaker 8: And of course Elko's not saying he because he's hurt,
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Speaker 8: But you know it could be anywhere to me, from
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Speaker 8: the top of his shoulder almost to his knee, as
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Speaker 8: far as it could be just a bruise or whatever
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Speaker 8: or nothing. We don't know.
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Speaker 2: We don't.
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Speaker 8: But getting back to your pointship, what what was hard
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Speaker 8: to gray against Utah State reads running ability and even
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Speaker 8: the team the backs, because they went with the three
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Speaker 8: man line all the time they were in the three
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Speaker 8: they they when they blitzed a few times, I got burnt,
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Speaker 8: so they stayed back. So you're gonna have a lot
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Speaker 8: of holes against the three man front when you're as
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Speaker 8: powerful as A and m is and the running backs
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Speaker 8: watching them, I'm with you one hundred percent. They could
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Speaker 8: run as they wanted to. But I still can't wait
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Speaker 8: to see how many times they run mosque versus somebody else.
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Speaker 8: Because you only have thirty, let's say thirty rushes a game,
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Speaker 8: who's going to get those in? Oh in uh Moss
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Speaker 8: seems to get stronger the more he carries. But Ruben
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Speaker 8: Owens looks so good when he when he carries, well,
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Speaker 8: he has that explosiveness to me along with power. So
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Speaker 8: it's a nice problem for a callin Klein to have.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we didn't even mention mar Daniels, right.
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Speaker 8: Right, exactly, and this guy at seven eight hundred yards
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Speaker 8: last year.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so they've got Ormorrow the freshman, right right.
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Speaker 8: Moral, Yeah, he was electric.
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Speaker 1: I was trying to these are overall stats. I was
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Speaker 1: looking at the game stats. See you were talking about
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Speaker 1: running running the football.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, two thirty five rushing yards.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and didn't even try hard.
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Speaker 9: They average five one two Carrie, which is I mean,
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Speaker 9: not bad gainst Utah State they had Again.
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Speaker 2: I had a couple of long runs, but how many rushes.
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Speaker 5: Forty five?
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Speaker 2: I think forty forty five?
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Speaker 5: Two thirty five?
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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so I mean I'm bad. Yeah, I mean
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Speaker 1: that I said I wanted to see him go for
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Speaker 1: two fifty against this team.
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Speaker 2: So that's that's not bad.
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Speaker 1: I like the fact that Marcel Reid didn't turn the
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Speaker 1: ball over.
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Speaker 2: You know, yeah with him, Yeah, you just I.
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Speaker 1: Don't like the fact they missed an extra point That
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Speaker 1: was a little disturbing.
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Speaker 2: That is bothersome they had made like one hundred and
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Speaker 2: twenty in a row or something.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 8: What I'm saying is that you do take it for
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Speaker 8: granted because they made him right, and then here comes
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Speaker 8: a guy that quote won the job and he hits
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Speaker 8: the gold post.
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Speaker 1: That was disturbing because because he won a job. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but but that that one point. Uh, they're starting a
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Speaker 1: series of games.
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Speaker 2: Now we're going to need that Utah State you talked
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Speaker 2: about extra points.
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Speaker 9: I give you Tah State credit for coming out and like, okay,
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Speaker 9: we just score touchdown.
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Speaker 5: No, we're not gonna tie this thing up.
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Speaker 9: We take the lead. You know, they go for two.
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Speaker 9: I mean, they got nothing to lose.
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Speaker 2: I like that mentality they heard have some fun.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, and so I think, you know, they were actually
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Speaker 9: a better team than I thought.
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Speaker 2: And I didn't think they're very good coming out.
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Speaker 8: I was impressed with Mendenhall before.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I like him.
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Speaker 8: Then I listened to his press conference last week and
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Speaker 8: he was so engaging to me and so at ease.
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Speaker 8: I listened to his introductory press conference. This is a
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Speaker 8: guy that gets the most out of his players. So
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Speaker 8: you can see why he always has. He's just so
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Speaker 8: genuine and you can see he just bleeds his profession
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Speaker 8: every time he opens his mouth.
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Speaker 9: Well, and quite frankly, we don't know anything about an
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Speaker 9: m yet, and it's we're talking two weeks in the season,
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Speaker 9: and you know it's hard to get up for these
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Speaker 9: these two.
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Speaker 5: I mean it's it's easy to.
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Speaker 9: Get up for your first game, and that atmosphere on
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Speaker 9: a night game, it was really hard to get up
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Speaker 9: for an eleventh.
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Speaker 1: We do that.
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Speaker 2: We do that.
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Speaker 1: We knew what the atmosphere was going to be. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we knew that. And and I you know, I don't
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Speaker 1: have except for that first start of the second half.
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Speaker 2: You know, I don't have any problem with the effort, right.
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Speaker 1: Uh, it's it's everything just has to be multiplied Saturday
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Speaker 1: night everything.
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Speaker 5: I mean, you don't get nearly as many chances.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
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Speaker 1: Correct, and and you've got to play clean and see
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Speaker 1: you ask again today, and you have to keep asking
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Speaker 1: until they do it because their road record has not
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Speaker 1: been good.
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Speaker 8: And once again, is it's those little things. It's they
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Speaker 8: only had five penalties, but like two or three of
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Speaker 8: them are real huge, real timely and hurt them. And
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Speaker 8: you very up a good point, Rusty, and you said
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Speaker 8: they didn't do anything really to say like, oh, that
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Speaker 8: wasn't that bad. But once again, is they're gonna up
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Speaker 8: things now because suddenly one motion penalty might kill a
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Speaker 8: drive and you're on the road.
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Speaker 9: Well, you can't afford to, you know, get it behind
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Speaker 9: the chains and gets a Notre Dame whereas you can
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Speaker 9: sometimes you can recover against Utsa's and the Utah States
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Speaker 9: of the world.
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Speaker 8: Let's say you have a great first half and AEM
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Speaker 8: goes in up fourteen to ten, and then you come
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Speaker 8: out and have that law at the first half in
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Speaker 8: the second half which they've had and Notre Dame goes
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Speaker 8: down scores a touchdown. You might never get the momentum
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Speaker 8: back exactly right. I never know, but you're playing an
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Speaker 8: opponent where if you sleep, that might be the game.
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Speaker 1: I'm just especially keen on the line of scrimmach Okay, yeah,
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Speaker 1: because it's a line of scrimmage league. Notre Dame's line
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Speaker 1: of scrimmage last year was really good. I watched them
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Speaker 1: against Miami. I thought both of those teams lines of
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Speaker 1: scrimmage just beat the crowd out of each other, and
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Speaker 1: I thought they were both really good. And so I'm
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Speaker 1: just I don't know yet, as you just said about
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Speaker 1: how good are the lines of scrimmage with this team.
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Speaker 9: It's so funny, I mean, because we don't know so
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Speaker 9: much about most of.
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Speaker 2: Com football right, No, absolutely, absolutely. You go from week
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Speaker 2: one to two, you're like, oh, well I really thought.
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Speaker 9: That was a great win in week one, or I
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Speaker 9: was like, man, but it looked terrible in week one.
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Speaker 9: But then they beat you know, seventeen SMU on the road.
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Speaker 9: This is where we get to find out a lot
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Speaker 9: about text A and M.
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Speaker 5: Though.
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Speaker 8: I yeah, absolutely, I think they have a good offensive, No, no,
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Speaker 8: but I am definitely concerned about their defensive line.
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Speaker 9: Well I just go so hard as to say I
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Speaker 9: think they got a really good offense, but I'm concerned
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Speaker 9: about defense. And you know, it starts up front, like
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Speaker 9: you said, ship right, I mean absolutely starts up front.
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Speaker 9: But again, outside of Cashers, how making three straight sacks
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Speaker 9: that's not gonna happen against Notre Dame.
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Speaker 5: Okay you would not.
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Speaker 8: The guy didn't even get a hand on them one
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Speaker 8: time them didn't you get a hand on them.
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Speaker 5: But outside of that, there's still some things that and
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Speaker 5: the secondary.
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Speaker 1: The other thing we look at Notre Dame is is
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Speaker 1: their their cornerbacks are elite.
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Speaker 2: Right, They're both there.
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Speaker 1: They have two NFL cornerbacks and and I'm anxious to see, uh,
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Speaker 1: these receivers who've been very good. You know, Braver and Concepcion,
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Speaker 1: they have showed that that. You know, they had the
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Speaker 1: athleticism we've been looking for for a while. And Bussy too, Bussy,
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Speaker 1: Bussy's good too. And they have and they have the
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Speaker 1: speed that they haven't had. So how are they going
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Speaker 1: to fare? How is Marcel Reid gonna fare against the back.
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Speaker 2: End of Notre Dame's defense.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, we're hopping all around. It just turned out that
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Speaker 8: way last year. And there's no doubt Will Lee impressed
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Speaker 8: me as a quarterback. But I watched three plays on Saurday.
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Speaker 8: He got beat. When that guy made that one head,
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Speaker 8: that one handed catch, Lee was on him. When when
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Speaker 8: they had the.
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Speaker 9: Penalty for that was an amazing cat. That kid from Southway, Yes,
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Speaker 9: that was a really and Lee.
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Speaker 8: Got beat one of them. And I said, here is
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Speaker 8: Utah State not afraid to throw the ball on Lee
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Speaker 8: because he was so good last year? I'm saying, why
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Speaker 8: would you throw to.
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Speaker 9: We We give we criticize officials a lot, right we do.
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Speaker 9: Let me give a total credit to that guy because
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Speaker 9: that first where I first saw it, Elaspiel like, there's
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Speaker 9: no way he made that cast said he wanted no
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Speaker 9: way why why they're.
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Speaker 5: Looking at this and that? And I was telling my
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Speaker 5: wife that.
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Speaker 2: That was the right and call.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh yeah, that's yeah. He drug his
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Speaker 2: foot before that front front great call. Just like just
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Speaker 2: like I said, when he slowed.
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Speaker 8: It down, they go he guy, I didn't get.
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Speaker 5: His foot on him. Yeah, that official nailed it right. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Man, A lot of a lot of times I could
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Speaker 2: play about it, but.
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Speaker 8: To do that a lot speed that catch, that.
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Speaker 9: Official was the only one the tire stadium. That officials
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Speaker 9: receiver were the only ones the entire state.
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Speaker 1: The other thing I said in the first hour, guys,
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Speaker 1: is there's no way I don't think that Notre Dame's
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Speaker 1: quarterback play can be as good as it was last
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Speaker 1: year the fifth Your guy, he controlled that team.
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Speaker 2: He got better as the year went on.
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Speaker 1: We know CJ. Carr's highly you know recruited guy. Uh,
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Speaker 1: he showed flashes against Miami. He's had one game, right,
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Speaker 1: He's He's had one game. So I just don't see
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Speaker 1: how they can be as efficient.
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Speaker 2: This is why ce I followed up that running.
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Speaker 1: Backs question because, as we mentioned, after that Miami game,
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Speaker 1: where's Jeremiah Love. He's your best offensive player. He touched
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Speaker 1: ball like five times. And I loved the answer that
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Speaker 1: Elko gave. He goes, oh, no, we expect a lot
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Speaker 1: of him on Saturday, and I expect a lot of
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Speaker 1: him on Saturday unless.
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Speaker 8: He's hurt and getting back. Corract what you started this
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Speaker 8: out with last year. I remember it just like it
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Speaker 8: was yesterday. The difference was that their run game. I
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Speaker 8: get their defense. But Riley Leonard made so many great decisions.
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Speaker 8: When that game was thirteen thirteen, he's on the road,
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Speaker 8: one hundred and seven thousand people ate him. Was a
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Speaker 8: chance to make a statement. Game day was here. He
16:25
Speaker 8: made about four or five right decisions. Yeah, he didn't
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Speaker 8: make great play. Sometimes he made a four yard run.
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Speaker 8: It was a great play because it was second and
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Speaker 8: six not second and twelve. Yeah, and it's amazing, And
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Speaker 8: well can redo that on the road and Saturday night
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Speaker 8: at South Bend. That's gonna be the question.
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Speaker 9: I didn't think CJ. Carr was necessarily bad. No, against
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Speaker 9: min he got better. Man. If he started off poorly, yeah, look,
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Speaker 9: then I did think he got better. And then when
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Speaker 9: I looked at his numbers after the game, he's nineteen
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Speaker 9: to thirty for two twenty one with two tds and.
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Speaker 8: Interception interception on a fumble.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you had two turnovers.
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Speaker 2: But I thought early on, I was like, yeah, I'm
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Speaker 2: with you.
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Speaker 1: If you'll recall, they started that game with like six
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Speaker 1: passes in a row, right, short, short passes, you know,
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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, well, they're trying to get him comfortable
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Speaker 1: on the road first game, let's make some easy throws.
17:18
Speaker 1: He didn't complete a lot of those first six passes
17:22
Speaker 1: either on the quote easy throws, but they again, they
17:26
Speaker 1: just never went to Jeremiah Love.
17:28
Speaker 2: It sees to your point, maybe maybe he was a
17:31
Speaker 2: little ding dump. I don't know.
17:32
Speaker 9: It's yeah, that old coaching thing that always says, you know,
17:35
Speaker 9: you make your most improvement from week one to two.
17:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never agreed with that, but Saban says it's true.
17:41
Speaker 2: So that's true.
17:42
Speaker 9: That's not the kiss right of them because I didn't
17:43
Speaker 9: see that vast improvement. But I do think it's an
17:46
Speaker 9: advantage from Notre Dame to have had a week off. So,
17:50
Speaker 9: I mean, they didn't play last week and they can
17:53
Speaker 9: really analyze things and and uh, you know, it's gonna
17:57
Speaker 9: be a tough environment at night in South Bend.
18:02
Speaker 5: It's a whole different environment.
18:04
Speaker 2: And you maybe I've never been to the night game.
18:06
Speaker 1: I was there, you know, I think, however long it's been,
18:08
Speaker 1: when they were up there two thousand and it was.
18:11
Speaker 2: Really really hot, really hot.
18:13
Speaker 8: Uh.
18:14
Speaker 1: And maybe that had to do with how the crowd
18:17
Speaker 1: kind of responded because I was underwhelmed.
18:19
Speaker 2: I was underwhelmed with the student section. I was underwhelmed
18:22
Speaker 2: with the crowd.
18:23
Speaker 1: Uh.
18:24
Speaker 2: I was underwhelmed with the atmosphere all day. The atmosphere
18:27
Speaker 2: is what I met.
18:27
Speaker 8: You know, you've got a high standard.
18:29
Speaker 1: Well, I do, but but it's Notre Dame, right, but
18:34
Speaker 1: night game may may be different.
18:37
Speaker 5: Lists of pres conference day.
18:38
Speaker 9: And the guy, the first guy, I don't know who
18:40
Speaker 9: it was, who asked a question about Rudy, but I.
18:44
Speaker 5: Was like, what was he asking?
18:45
Speaker 9: I was like, where in the world where are you going?
18:48
Speaker 8: You know?
18:48
Speaker 5: I was like, I mean, is Rudy.
18:49
Speaker 2: Gonna be there? You know, you know Rob is a
18:53
Speaker 2: great Rudy's going to be on the sideline.
18:55
Speaker 8: But I thought the same thing.
18:58
Speaker 5: He started that question.
18:59
Speaker 2: I was like, where is.
19:02
Speaker 8: Rudy would be at north Gate?
19:03
Speaker 2: As they suited up?
19:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember last year, right, Yeah, you're right.
19:08
Speaker 8: That was funny.
19:11
Speaker 1: There's a lot there's a lot of ghosts there. But
19:14
Speaker 1: but I don't I don't know that these these.
19:17
Speaker 2: This generation of players have any idea. I mean they
19:21
Speaker 2: know Notre Dame is. Don't get me wrong, I don't know.
19:24
Speaker 1: They don't know they they don't know the Camper, They
19:30
Speaker 1: don't know who the Four Horsemen are.
19:33
Speaker 2: They don't know Ara Parsigan. They most of them don't
19:35
Speaker 2: know who Rudy is.
19:37
Speaker 8: They know what Church touchdown Jesus went to.
19:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, they won't.
19:40
Speaker 1: You can't see it anymore anymore since they built the
19:43
Speaker 1: stadium up.
19:44
Speaker 8: But I did like Elcho's answering. The fact is, and
19:47
Speaker 8: he got me to think, is you know, I got admit,
19:49
Speaker 8: I take it for granted that I go out to
19:51
Speaker 8: one of the best venues every time at home, watch
19:53
Speaker 8: a game in the band, March and the and I
19:57
Speaker 8: take that for granted after after five decades. But we
20:00
Speaker 8: he talked to other people, like I talked to South
20:01
Speaker 8: Carolina Rider up at SEC goes I'm excited of going
20:05
Speaker 8: back to Kyle Field this year. I mean, you know,
20:07
Speaker 8: it's like when you get to go to these and
20:10
Speaker 8: he said, like when you go to Notre Dame. You know,
20:13
Speaker 8: the tradition and history. So I think what they said people, yeah,
20:18
Speaker 8: I know it's Notre Dame.
20:20
Speaker 5: Since you brought that up.
20:22
Speaker 9: I think the atmosphere in South Carolina is a lot
20:24
Speaker 9: better than it is in South Indiana.
20:26
Speaker 2: No, No, I don't think there's any doubt about that.
20:28
Speaker 9: I mean, especially if you're talking about night game. Yes,
20:31
Speaker 9: I don't think there's any doubt question. It's far more
20:34
Speaker 9: intimidating that South.
20:36
Speaker 2: Carolinaly hard place. It is a really it's one of
20:39
Speaker 2: the most underrated places.
20:41
Speaker 1: I agree, because it's South Carolina.
20:45
Speaker 8: And you know what you should.
20:47
Speaker 1: I've seen this thing where their record sucks and those
20:51
Speaker 1: fans are still showing up.
20:53
Speaker 2: It's a lot like Texas A and M. I mean,
20:56
Speaker 2: it should be more intimidating than it is, right.
20:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, But because the team games hadn't been great over
21:01
Speaker 1: the year, right, that's why it hasn't been more intimidating.
21:04
Speaker 2: But but the atmosphere really good sphere.
21:08
Speaker 8: It is unbelievable that it is, And of course I
21:10
Speaker 8: have to laugh. What makes those fans different, Kyle Field.
21:12
Speaker 8: I went there when A and M won the game
21:14
Speaker 8: like fifty to some and they were screaming for the
21:16
Speaker 8: former defensive coordinator to get fired. Yeah, yeah he did
21:20
Speaker 8: the third car they wanted his hide. Uh the guy
21:22
Speaker 8: that was at Florida. I can't think right now. Yeah yeah, yeah,
21:25
Speaker 8: good coach. I get old. I forget his name, but uh,
21:28
Speaker 8: funny guy. But I can't think it was. But anyway,
21:30
Speaker 8: they were one in him because they're not one hundred
21:33
Speaker 8: percent behind the program, so to speak. They it's so
21:37
Speaker 8: South Carolina. They want results now.
21:40
Speaker 2: Well, is there any place in the SEC that doesn't?
21:42
Speaker 8: Well, once again, is AM doesn't turn on the home
21:45
Speaker 8: You're not gonna hate if A and M lose this game.
21:47
Speaker 8: They're not going to get on Alco. They're not gonna
21:49
Speaker 8: get on their player, not anything like that.
21:52
Speaker 2: Maybe not in the stands.
21:53
Speaker 8: Understand it's not right.
21:55
Speaker 5: No, but they will though. I mean it.
21:57
Speaker 9: Yeah, here's an opportunity for A and M. I feel
22:00
Speaker 9: like AM is going to go into Notre Dame as
22:02
Speaker 9: the better team and now they have to prove it
22:05
Speaker 9: because they have not proven they can go on the
22:08
Speaker 9: road and win a big game, especially in the non conference.
22:11
Speaker 5: I mean, they just haven't done it enough. Go do
22:14
Speaker 5: it now.
22:14
Speaker 2: Let's see.
22:15
Speaker 9: Let's see if if ANEM really wants to prove it's
22:17
Speaker 9: a different team that it's been in recent years, then
22:20
Speaker 9: go win this game.
22:21
Speaker 1: Well, look, I don't think there's anybody in the locker
22:23
Speaker 1: room that doesn't know that, right right. I don't think
22:26
Speaker 1: there's anybody coaching staff that doesn't know that.
22:29
Speaker 5: But the history says it's not going to happen.
22:32
Speaker 2: History does so is it a different team or is
22:35
Speaker 2: it not a different team? Right? Right? And and I
22:38
Speaker 2: think you're right.
22:39
Speaker 1: I don't think Notre Dame right now is what they
22:44
Speaker 1: were a year ago.
22:45
Speaker 2: They played for the national championship a year ago.
22:48
Speaker 1: We've already talked about that quarterback that they had that
22:51
Speaker 1: directed everything that was really good, and I don't think
22:56
Speaker 1: they're quite as good.
22:58
Speaker 2: But this is this is what makes this stave intriguing.
23:01
Speaker 9: Well, it's exactly right. And we started talking off before
23:03
Speaker 9: we went on air. We're talking about the American League West,
23:06
Speaker 9: and I think the probably the best team American League West.
23:08
Speaker 5: Is the Seattle Mariners.
23:09
Speaker 9: But they're not gonna win it because I historically they're
23:12
Speaker 9: not gonna win it. That's not that was so historically.
23:16
Speaker 9: I don't think A and M goes into a venue
23:18
Speaker 9: like this on the road and haven't done it, So
23:21
Speaker 9: you got to prove it to.
23:22
Speaker 8: Me, and I won't say that. I don't know if
23:25
Speaker 8: I think A and M is a better team because
23:27
Speaker 8: Notre Dame returns like eleven starters off a national runner
23:31
Speaker 8: up team, six on defenses, and they could have beat
23:34
Speaker 8: Miami with one play. They lost twenty seven to twenty
23:36
Speaker 8: four on the road.
23:38
Speaker 2: You know what. That coughed up and coughed up a lead.
23:41
Speaker 9: I agree with that, but I feel like Miami just
23:43
Speaker 9: stopped playing.
23:44
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like Miami now too.
23:46
Speaker 8: And it's hard in one game for you to say
23:48
Speaker 8: I'm not I don't know. I'm with you, though. A
23:50
Speaker 8: and M needs approve it, because I don't know who
23:52
Speaker 8: is the better team. There's not much difference between eight
23:54
Speaker 8: rank and fifteen. That's what they are. And uh, if
23:58
Speaker 8: A and M goes in there and wins this game,
24:00
Speaker 8: than oh my gosh. But if Notre Dame wins this
24:02
Speaker 8: game and then they're back, they're gonna go to the
24:04
Speaker 8: College Football Playoff, you know.
24:06
Speaker 2: I mean, well, the other thing is cease Notre Dame's
24:09
Speaker 2: oen one.
24:10
Speaker 8: You're right, this is a must win for them. They
24:13
Speaker 8: have nobody left on the schedules ranked twenty five.
24:16
Speaker 2: They have to win this game.
24:17
Speaker 8: They don't win this game.
24:18
Speaker 1: Oh and two, yeah, it's really hard, absolutely even for
24:22
Speaker 1: Notre Dame.
24:23
Speaker 8: Because anybody, they don't play anybody the rest of the way.
24:26
Speaker 11: You know.
24:26
Speaker 2: I'm just thought they had one good game.
24:28
Speaker 8: Maybe they have Boise stayed in Southern cal but they're
24:30
Speaker 8: not ranked, you know, and they play either arm of
24:33
Speaker 8: your Navy. But again they're not ranked, right right, they
24:35
Speaker 8: don't play one ranked team, Okay, in the remaining schedu Now.
24:38
Speaker 1: So this is a really I mean, it's a very
24:40
Speaker 1: important game for both these teams, right absolutely, and from
24:43
Speaker 1: the history of the program for a while.
24:45
Speaker 2: I mean it's just like you know.
24:46
Speaker 1: I would I would still argue it's more important for
24:49
Speaker 1: Notre Dame because it's a home game and loss.
24:51
Speaker 8: Right and for A and M it's Anotherre Dame. Again
24:55
Speaker 8: if ain't play, I do because last year A did well,
25:00
Speaker 8: like well, they can go to the road and beat Missouri,
25:04
Speaker 8: they can beat Arkansas.
25:05
Speaker 9: But but I've seen A and M when non conference
25:08
Speaker 9: games at home, I really had. What I haven't seen
25:11
Speaker 9: them is going into elite venues.
25:13
Speaker 2: I know what you're saying the road.
25:15
Speaker 5: I mean, it's history against them, the history.
25:17
Speaker 9: I go back all the way to, like, you know,
25:19
Speaker 9: I remember going to Clemson with Fran and all Miami
25:23
Speaker 9: with Frand and all these venues.
25:25
Speaker 2: You're like, great opportunity, Notre Dame where we went. Those
25:29
Speaker 2: weren't great teams, by the way, No.
25:31
Speaker 9: They weren't great teams. And I just feel like, you know,
25:33
Speaker 9: it's time to step up. I mean, I remember going
25:35
Speaker 9: to Virginia Tech in the middle of a hurricane.
25:37
Speaker 2: I was like, come on, you can't do it. Then
25:39
Speaker 2: it's like.
25:40
Speaker 9: There's just so many memories that stick out to me
25:43
Speaker 9: as like, oh, great non conference setting.
25:46
Speaker 5: They can't finish.
25:46
Speaker 8: Their last victory of a ranked team in the road
25:50
Speaker 8: was in twenty fourteen against Auburn, and Auburn had like
25:53
Speaker 8: three key turners. They had like five hundred yards.
25:56
Speaker 9: I had to look up when their last victory came
25:59
Speaker 9: against a rank non conference team on the road.
26:01
Speaker 5: That's gonna be something I'm gonna have to look up because.
26:03
Speaker 2: I have to look a little further than I can't
26:05
Speaker 2: remember that.
26:06
Speaker 8: I mean, I thought it was bad enough just looking
26:10
Speaker 8: for one that was.
26:11
Speaker 9: Yeah, I go back to like even that the last
26:14
Speaker 9: conference championship team, nineteen ninety eight.
26:16
Speaker 2: They go up to New York City. They opened the
26:19
Speaker 2: season against Flooria State.
26:21
Speaker 5: They easily could have have won that game.
26:23
Speaker 9: They've played Chris Winky and I'll never forget Royland. Had
26:28
Speaker 9: the ball hit him right in the numbers, they could
26:30
Speaker 9: have won that game. They did, and it's just like God,
26:33
Speaker 9: they can't get over the hump. And I remember going
26:35
Speaker 9: to the locker room after that game, thinking, well, they
26:37
Speaker 9: played well, and I asked Dan and is this a
26:40
Speaker 9: moral Dan Campbell? Is this a moral victory? And I
26:43
Speaker 9: thought Dan was gonna tear my head off, and He's
26:46
Speaker 9: just like, we don't.
26:46
Speaker 5: Do moral victories. And so I just I'll never forget that.
26:49
Speaker 1: Always remember, Hey, you would trade a loss at Notre
26:54
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31:32
Speaker 8: Okay, here's about just getting at two things, Rusty and
31:35
Speaker 8: I'm glad we're found the same age group. Okay, Will
31:38
Speaker 8: Muschamp was the guy I couldn't think of. Yes, Okay,
31:41
Speaker 8: A and M's last win on the.
31:44
Speaker 2: Road, well, that would be non conference.
31:46
Speaker 8: Okay, you're right, South Carolina. They beat South Carolina, you know,
31:49
Speaker 8: in twenty fourteen, right before the Auburn game.
31:52
Speaker 2: It has to I'm talking about non conference.
31:54
Speaker 9: I know your I just thought I'm gone through the
31:56
Speaker 9: years and it has to be prior to nineteen ninety eight.
31:59
Speaker 5: Oh, I mean it's been a long time.
32:05
Speaker 8: Yes, interesting, Yes, it is, Okay, anybody.
32:10
Speaker 2: Well, well, but played a lot of teams.
32:13
Speaker 9: I mean, they played at Virginia Tech with ranked they
32:16
Speaker 9: played that at Clemson at Miami.
32:18
Speaker 2: I mean they they've had some road trips where you know,
32:21
Speaker 2: Utah was at Notre Dame twenty four years ago. Yeah, right, so,
32:25
Speaker 2: I mean.
32:28
Speaker 9: Yeah, but I mean it's it's been a long time
32:31
Speaker 9: since they've gone on the road. I mean, it's just
32:34
Speaker 9: it's again, that's why you're gonna have to prove it
32:36
Speaker 9: to me, and this is an opportunity to go on
32:38
Speaker 9: the road and and win a game, which you you can.
32:44
Speaker 5: I mean, they haven't done it.
32:46
Speaker 9: They didn't do it ninety five when they went on
32:48
Speaker 9: the road and played Colorado. And so they did go
32:51
Speaker 9: back in nicey seven and beat Colorado when they were ranked,
32:54
Speaker 9: but that was as members of the Big twelve.
32:56
Speaker 5: So it's got to be even before nineteen ninety five.
32:59
Speaker 5: I would think it might be that, you know, it
33:02
Speaker 5: might be a neutral site game when they played against Stanford,
33:04
Speaker 5: but that's.
33:05
Speaker 2: Not what was a long time ago. We're talking about
33:09
Speaker 2: talking about a long time ago. Bill was ahead.
33:13
Speaker 5: This is the opportunity to have here.
33:15
Speaker 2: What do you got L s U on the road
33:19
Speaker 2: ninety four that beat L s U.
33:21
Speaker 5: Thank you very much.
33:22
Speaker 8: Yeah, L close. I was at ninety five. I was
33:25
Speaker 8: back to ninety five.
33:26
Speaker 2: No, they weren't right, they weren't ranked.
33:28
Speaker 1: We're talking about a rank right, and it may be
33:31
Speaker 1: an L s U team at some point actually, because
33:34
Speaker 1: they did go I never L s U canceled the
33:37
Speaker 1: series because they had have been one of those in
33:39
Speaker 1: a row that.
33:41
Speaker 8: I'm back at ninety two that Stanford was at a
33:43
Speaker 8: neutral site.
33:44
Speaker 2: Yes, it was.
33:45
Speaker 5: It was ranked, right, that was neutral.
33:47
Speaker 8: That was that. It doesn't say it was.
33:49
Speaker 2: An it was a angel. It was ten to seven.
33:53
Speaker 2: I can't believe I was at that game.
33:57
Speaker 5: Yeah.
33:57
Speaker 9: Anyway, it's been a long time, so it's time to
34:00
Speaker 9: change that.
34:01
Speaker 2: Time to change time, to change history history.
34:03
Speaker 9: This is not one of those notes that the A
34:05
Speaker 9: and M Sports Information is going to put in.
34:07
Speaker 8: You don't think so.
34:08
Speaker 2: No, brat Brattle text me, okay, yeah, he's history, and.
34:12
Speaker 1: He'll text like the last time Adam beat a ranked opponent,
34:19
Speaker 1: non con.
34:20
Speaker 2: Non conference, I'm on the road, I'm back to eighty six.
34:22
Speaker 9: Wow, that Housers, that's that's going back.
34:28
Speaker 8: They weren't playing anybody ranked. Some of those true, that
34:31
Speaker 8: part's true. One or two ranked teams the whole year.
34:34
Speaker 2: That parts true.
34:34
Speaker 9: But jack you would always lose one of those games,
34:36
Speaker 9: you know. I remember they played Nebraska and the Kickoff
34:38
Speaker 9: Classic and they lost that game just like that.
34:40
Speaker 5: You know, the floor staate, Jackie.
34:42
Speaker 2: Was terrible in the first couple of weeks of the season.
34:44
Speaker 2: Because you found it.
34:47
Speaker 1: Against State right there, Penn State seventy nine, number six.
34:51
Speaker 1: I was out there, Wow, Penn State nineteen seventy nine.
34:57
Speaker 1: Sticky to my point, it's time I was there.
35:04
Speaker 5: Thank you for where all cees there.
35:07
Speaker 8: Were six and five that you under, mister Tom Wilson.
35:09
Speaker 2: Okay, now anyway, gut him fire.
35:12
Speaker 1: I was making the point that Jackie was terrible the
35:14
Speaker 1: first two weeks in most seasons because he had worn
35:17
Speaker 1: his team out practicing two and three times a day
35:19
Speaker 1: in the heat.
35:22
Speaker 2: I think towards the end he changed a little bit,
35:25
Speaker 2: but they had no legs. They had no legs.
35:27
Speaker 8: Some guy did that at Junction. Wasn't too bad for him?
35:29
Speaker 5: Well, he was bad for him.
35:32
Speaker 2: He almost killed He almost killed some people.
35:35
Speaker 8: So how bad do you want to win?
35:39
Speaker 2: You know? I've read that.
35:40
Speaker 1: I just got through with that Frank Lahey book a
35:43
Speaker 1: few weeks ago that Ivan Mazell wrote, and I will
35:46
Speaker 1: replay that here in the next week because the book
35:49
Speaker 1: comes out. I think next week i'll replay the interview.
35:51
Speaker 1: But but lay was was pre Junction guy.
35:55
Speaker 2: He did the same thing. He he just brutalized his players.
36:01
Speaker 9: Part of the reason that Bear Bryant did that is
36:03
Speaker 9: there a lot of contracts he wanted to eliminate because
36:07
Speaker 9: they were getting paid back then, and he really wanted
36:10
Speaker 9: to run away, run a lot of these guys off.
36:12
Speaker 5: So he he could open up some new n I L.
36:14
Speaker 2: Deals.
36:16
Speaker 8: And once again it was how bad do you want to?
36:18
Speaker 2: Spoken? Like his story?
36:19
Speaker 8: And see that uh video going around to the old
36:22
Speaker 8: woman to ask her she won the lottery, what she
36:25
Speaker 8: would do? What she would do? She would fire bore
36:28
Speaker 8: and along with him, and then she gives some money
36:33
Speaker 8: to her church. So you know that's Alabama.
36:37
Speaker 5: Many is priority.
36:40
Speaker 2: They've shut up one week one week.
36:44
Speaker 8: You look it up and it is priceless because she's
36:46
Speaker 8: seriously she can, of.
36:47
Speaker 2: Course she is. She goes don a D two fan
36:50
Speaker 2: is short for her fanatic.
36:52
Speaker 8: Yeah, you played that tape. I'll tell you what I
36:55
Speaker 8: can't see, napiers.
36:56
Speaker 9: You know what I was thinking about fans short for
36:59
Speaker 9: fanatic when I was watching on Saturday morning the viral
37:02
Speaker 9: video of the Philly Philadelphia Karen stealing the ball kid.
37:08
Speaker 5: You know it turned out good for the kid. I
37:09
Speaker 5: mean the kid's gotten, you know, yeah.
37:11
Speaker 2: He gotta get he got it.
37:13
Speaker 9: He got all kinds of stuff for both of the Marlins,
37:16
Speaker 9: and they stepped up. But I mean, I'm just this woman,
37:19
Speaker 9: how do you how dumb is that and then I mean,
37:23
Speaker 9: you go to a ball game and then the next
37:25
Speaker 9: day you're hated universally across the country. It's just like
37:29
Speaker 9: social media can be very, very dangerous. Don't do stupid stuff.
37:32
Speaker 2: Everyone has a camera.
37:34
Speaker 8: I gotta see I missed that.
37:36
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41:11
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41:41
Speaker 9: Before we go there, I want to tell you my
41:43
Speaker 9: very favorite moment from the game last Saturday. Okay, so
41:49
Speaker 9: we talked all about n I L and stuff, and
41:52
Speaker 9: we talked about all these guys changing schools and and
41:55
Speaker 9: all the money. So I watched a young man who
41:59
Speaker 9: I have watched grow up, Yes, twelve man kickoff when
42:04
Speaker 9: I got to see Wesley Watson make the tackle. I
42:08
Speaker 9: have watched that kid grow up. I knew his mom
42:10
Speaker 9: when she was a college student. I've known his dad forever.
42:14
Speaker 9: I've known his grandfather forever. Mark Dinner and so that
42:19
Speaker 9: to me was like, good for you. I was so
42:22
Speaker 9: excited about that. Didn't he say his first tackle effort
42:26
Speaker 9: because he's.
42:26
Speaker 5: A water seat.
42:27
Speaker 9: Yeah, but I just I texted his Matt and I
42:30
Speaker 9: was like, man, that is the greatest thing. And he
42:32
Speaker 9: texted like a an emoji of a tear drop coming out.
42:35
Speaker 9: He's like, man, yeah, I really those are the kind
42:40
Speaker 9: of moments that I felt that same way because I've
42:43
Speaker 9: watched like Jay Grahamson Jacob Graham do the same thing,
42:46
Speaker 9: and it's like, it is so fun when you see
42:49
Speaker 9: one of these kids when you saw as a little
42:51
Speaker 9: bitty boy wearing this A and M stuff and dreaming
42:54
Speaker 9: of playing and.
42:54
Speaker 2: They're out there sweating just like they're not getting paid,
42:58
Speaker 2: I mean, and they're paying most most case.
43:01
Speaker 9: And so when you see that like that is still
43:04
Speaker 9: one of the beauties of college football.
43:06
Speaker 2: Hey, and there aren't many left. No, they're not. You know,
43:09
Speaker 2: they've they've screwed up the walk on.
43:13
Speaker 5: But when Wesley made that tackle, was that was pretty bad.
43:15
Speaker 5: It's so cool.
43:18
Speaker 1: What struck you guys? The rest of the league. You
43:22
Speaker 1: want to start with Oklahoma, Michigan.
43:25
Speaker 8: I'm going to start with Mississippi State, winning that game,
43:28
Speaker 8: because that was amazing. I watched the end of the game,
43:30
Speaker 8: and I don't know if you guys saw it.
43:32
Speaker 2: Did you see where.
43:35
Speaker 8: Arizona State is seven guys in the line of scrimmage.
43:38
Speaker 8: You know I counted them. Now, they only rushed four
43:40
Speaker 8: and they dropped two. But the problem is they didn't
43:44
Speaker 8: guard the inside receiver. Okay, you there's thirty seconds left
43:47
Speaker 8: in the game. You talk about I always hate it
43:50
Speaker 8: when the coaches used the no prevent defense, But you
43:53
Speaker 8: gotta have a safety back. That was the easiest fifty
43:55
Speaker 8: eight yard touchdown pass. And I go that Arizona State coach,
43:58
Speaker 8: he took his team to the college football playoffs. You
44:01
Speaker 8: can't have that defense. It just gave they they went,
44:05
Speaker 8: They took the ball ten minutes to go.
44:06
Speaker 1: This is things I love about college for me too,
44:11
Speaker 1: because you see, you see.
44:13
Speaker 2: Lots of it.
44:14
Speaker 8: They should have won that game.
44:15
Speaker 2: I should have.
44:17
Speaker 8: They drove with ten minutes, they had the ball right,
44:20
Speaker 8: couldn't get it in the end zone. That's correct because
44:21
Speaker 8: they got too conservative. They knew if field goal was
44:24
Speaker 8: gonna win it, and then they don't have a safety back.
44:27
Speaker 8: I know in Mississippi State, rushes the field.
44:30
Speaker 9: Well, there's a couple of things that stuck out to me,
44:32
Speaker 9: and one I thought it was a great bounce back
44:35
Speaker 9: for arch Manning. I mean, he didn't start off that
44:37
Speaker 9: game great, but he hit the long pass, and you know,
44:41
Speaker 9: I think he's gonna be really good, you know. I
44:43
Speaker 9: mean we talked about last week, there's so much pressure
44:46
Speaker 9: on it. Not he said all the right things, right,
44:49
Speaker 9: it wasn't him. I almost felt sorry for him after
44:52
Speaker 9: that first one because he said all the right things,
44:55
Speaker 9: he did all the right things.
44:56
Speaker 5: But he's still this.
44:57
Speaker 9: Young kid dealing with his immense amount of pressure. He
45:00
Speaker 9: never asked to be a Heisman favorite, right, And so
45:03
Speaker 9: I thought, okay, now that's who I really thought he was.
45:07
Speaker 9: And I was bouncing back, you know. And also then
45:10
Speaker 9: I was bouncing back around that Baylor SMU game and
45:13
Speaker 9: I thought that the game at the day it was
45:15
Speaker 9: and s m you pulled up and.
45:16
Speaker 2: Went out by four, and I thought, okay, well they'll
45:20
Speaker 2: put up a pretty good fight here.
45:22
Speaker 9: But I tell you what, man, Baylor's got some They
45:25
Speaker 9: have subdues, yes they do.
45:27
Speaker 2: Shawyer Robert can play.
45:29
Speaker 9: He can play, and that wide receiver thirty four, he
45:32
Speaker 9: can play.
45:33
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you what ce the cat out of
45:36
Speaker 1: frank that nobody wanted, Yeah, Washington wanted them.
45:40
Speaker 2: He can play, he's a player.
45:43
Speaker 8: You know what, what kind of DNA you have, Franklin?
45:45
Speaker 5: But he goes to the points like you know, I
45:48
Speaker 5: watched was that Auburn game?
45:49
Speaker 2: Was that a big win for them? Or was that
45:51
Speaker 2: just now it's a better win for Auburn.
45:54
Speaker 8: Right, that's why Auburn, I think, got into rankings. Look
45:56
Speaker 8: to go, Okay, they beat a team on their places,
45:59
Speaker 8: win SMU at their place, and I.
46:02
Speaker 9: Didn't get to watch a lot of it because it
46:03
Speaker 9: was delayed. But I mean Clemson was down sixteen nothing
46:06
Speaker 9: to Troy. Yes they were, And I was like, okay,
46:09
Speaker 9: well the first week I was like, kudos the LSU
46:11
Speaker 9: because they know that's a huge win.
46:14
Speaker 5: How good is Clemson?
46:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
46:18
Speaker 9: I don't think maybe after two weeks do we know
46:20
Speaker 9: anything about Clemson yet? I don't know.
46:22
Speaker 2: Do we know anything about Oklahoma against Michigan. Oklahoma's better,
46:26
Speaker 2: I think there's no doubt about that. I don't think
46:28
Speaker 2: Michigan's very good.
46:29
Speaker 1: Dusty I don't either offensively they're not. But I talked
46:34
Speaker 1: to Dusty about this and and Mattier looked, look good.
46:37
Speaker 2: But they can't run the football. First of all, they
46:41
Speaker 2: can't run the.
46:41
Speaker 1: Football, okay, And if he's their guy running the football
46:45
Speaker 1: with their schedule and every right now on their schedule,
46:49
Speaker 1: every team they play here on is ranked every.
46:52
Speaker 8: Team Oklahoma seven team, I think, yeah, but if.
46:55
Speaker 1: He runs the football like he's running against Michigan, I
46:58
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to survive.
47:00
Speaker 2: See who the backup is, Yeah, I mean, I just
47:02
Speaker 2: don't think you can survive doing that. I think I
47:05
Speaker 2: could be wrong.
47:06
Speaker 8: I think we see, like Marcel Reid, he was hit
47:10
Speaker 8: going down at an unusual spot. When a quarterback carries
47:13
Speaker 8: the ball so much, and I say, if you're a
47:15
Speaker 8: quarterback and you carrate the ball ten times a game,
47:17
Speaker 8: which you really have to, if you're a dual threat,
47:19
Speaker 8: you're susceptible to a lot of bumps and bruises. Forget
47:23
Speaker 8: about tough injuries.
47:24
Speaker 2: YEA.
47:24
Speaker 8: Yeah, when you're back there throwing the ball and these
47:26
Speaker 8: guys going four or five in the defensive end coming
47:29
Speaker 8: at you at two forty and hitting you, Yeah, those
47:31
Speaker 8: things add up.
47:33
Speaker 1: I thought Kansas Missouri was going to be a good game,
47:36
Speaker 1: and it was. I love the Kansas quarterback. I like
47:42
Speaker 1: the fact that Missouri came back. I love the passion
47:46
Speaker 1: in that game. They just hate each other and it's
47:50
Speaker 1: just a shame what college football has done to these rivalries. Right,
47:55
Speaker 1: we had to wait thirteen years. It had been fourteen
47:58
Speaker 1: years since Kansas Missouri played, and that just should not.
48:03
Speaker 2: Be in either sports. They finally started playing in basketball.
48:06
Speaker 1: They figured out maybe they could play each other in basketball.
48:09
Speaker 9: It's the same thing with that Baylor SMU game. You
48:11
Speaker 9: know Baylor had won thirteenth straight, but you have to
48:14
Speaker 9: go way back, yeah to that many years.
48:17
Speaker 2: That'll be playing every year. Right now, s MU and
48:20
Speaker 2: tc you are playing in two weeks.
48:23
Speaker 5: And they've continued to play.
48:25
Speaker 2: But this the last time?
48:26
Speaker 1: Is that?
48:26
Speaker 5: Right?
48:27
Speaker 2: Yeah? TCU said now we don't play more, and there's
48:31
Speaker 2: no you can't stupid do that reason.
48:35
Speaker 1: That's what college football to me is still rivalries right.
48:41
Speaker 2: Luckily ugly, but.
48:44
Speaker 1: I state, I mean, they are who they are, and
48:47
Speaker 1: you know what, I love the coach, Matt Campbell. He's
48:50
Speaker 1: not gonna get five star guys, but I'm telling you
48:55
Speaker 1: they are grind out of They grind. They play with
48:57
Speaker 1: an edge. They've done it ever since he's been there.
49:01
Speaker 1: I give them a lot of credit. I mean they're
49:03
Speaker 1: not a great team by any stretch, but they just grind.
49:07
Speaker 1: I guarantee you do not want to go to ames
49:10
Speaker 1: iowaever and play at Iowa State. I don't care how
49:14
Speaker 1: many athletes you think they don't have.
49:18
Speaker 2: That you just don't want to play there.
49:19
Speaker 9: I'll tell you where you do want to go to
49:21
Speaker 9: play whenever you get a chance.
49:23
Speaker 2: So I want to go steal water? Yeah, Oh my gosh, Gundhi.
49:28
Speaker 9: No, you don't think in the year you can't lose
49:32
Speaker 9: sixty nine to three anymore?
49:34
Speaker 5: No, I mean, I mean if Mulletman's in trouble, yeah.
49:37
Speaker 8: I mean, and they're terrible.
49:39
Speaker 2: Do you know they've lost ten straight to Division one teams.
49:43
Speaker 8: They're in trouble, bad trouble. Getting back to Man, he's
49:47
Speaker 8: offul getting back to rivalies. At one time, rivalries he
49:51
Speaker 8: talked say about the top three things to college football,
49:53
Speaker 8: Rivalies is number one.
49:54
Speaker 2: Yes, now, he said, Nebraska. I know Oklahoma should play You.
49:58
Speaker 8: Say the top five the first four reasons or money
50:01
Speaker 8: and then rivalries. I mean, it's just all about money. Unfortunately,
50:04
Speaker 8: even the SEC is working in rivalries because it means money.
50:08
Speaker 8: I mean, once again, is it's all about unfortunately, and
50:11
Speaker 8: I get it, it's all about money.
50:12
Speaker 9: Well, if Texas would not have joined the SEC, am
50:15
Speaker 9: in Texas would not be playing another one. I mean
50:17
Speaker 9: just it's because the egos.
50:19
Speaker 1: So it's helped in in a couple of senses, but
50:23
Speaker 1: it's hurt most every other rivalry.
50:26
Speaker 5: We sat here right.
50:27
Speaker 9: After the the A and M left for the SEC,
50:31
Speaker 9: and where's like, go play this game in twelve Yeah,
50:34
Speaker 9: left four of the SECA.
50:36
Speaker 5: I said, let's go play at Texas Motor Speedway.
50:38
Speaker 2: Whatever they play that game. Couldn't figure it out.
50:42
Speaker 5: It's it's ridiculous.
50:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is ridiculous.
50:44
Speaker 1: Uh. Speaking of coaches that are on the downward spiral,
50:49
Speaker 1: Mark Stoops at Kentucky, Wow, I saw his record the
50:54
Speaker 1: last three years. You know it's below five hundred. It's
50:56
Speaker 1: not great. Now, I will say this, Mark Stoops is
51:00
Speaker 1: not going to change who he is. They beat the
51:02
Speaker 1: crap out of Old Miss the other day. I mean
51:05
Speaker 1: physically they lost the game because they don't have enough
51:08
Speaker 1: good players.
51:08
Speaker 2: They don't have enough talent, but he's still he's still
51:12
Speaker 2: gonna beat on you.
51:14
Speaker 1: Right, he may lose and and don't miss. You know,
51:18
Speaker 1: they had to fight to win that game. It was
51:21
Speaker 1: clear who had better players, but they had to fight.
51:25
Speaker 1: But but Stoops is definitely in a downward spiral there.
51:28
Speaker 8: Yeah, and you're looking about who's going to be at Kentucky,
51:30
Speaker 8: who's gonna be a he's gonna be at Florida, who's
51:33
Speaker 8: gonna be in to Oklahoma State? They had a horror
51:35
Speaker 8: coach in a long time they have not definitely looks
51:38
Speaker 8: like you can't get beat as bad as they did.
51:40
Speaker 8: It's it's like someone losing to the year.
51:42
Speaker 1: And this is a league that's up for graps, right,
51:45
Speaker 1: I mean the big twelves up for graps.
51:47
Speaker 8: You can do in there. If you're a good coach,
51:49
Speaker 8: you can you can compete for the title second year.
51:51
Speaker 1: I think you're right, you know, just hitch transfer if
51:54
Speaker 1: they have you know, I don't know what kind of
51:55
Speaker 1: resources they have. Gundy was complaining before the Oregon game, right,
52:00
Speaker 1: didn't have enough, Yes, but but he knew what was coming.
52:03
Speaker 1: He knew what was coming, and I had a laughing
52:05
Speaker 1: I don't think he.
52:06
Speaker 2: Knew they were going to put sixty nine on him.
52:07
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe he did.
52:08
Speaker 8: I don't care who you are. I went back and
52:10
Speaker 8: listened to Mendonoll's introductric. Yeah, confer, it's one of the
52:14
Speaker 8: first questions was what kind of nil money they're giving you.
52:17
Speaker 8: You're in the you're in the Mountain West. I don't
52:19
Speaker 8: care what conferences, what budget do you have? What is
52:22
Speaker 8: your cap? What is your cap?
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Speaker 5: Yeah? Crazy, I know what is your cap?
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Speaker 8: Today? Elko used to work cap. I mean it's like
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Speaker 8: it's it's out there.
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Speaker 2: It's just what he did, you know?
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Speaker 1: And I thought after that first game, Virginia Tech was
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Speaker 1: pretty good. We talked about that ye and then Vanderbilt
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Speaker 1: lit them up.
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Speaker 8: They got a quarterback.
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Speaker 2: Though they do have a quarterback. He's like, you know what,
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Speaker 2: they have a tight end too, really good. He's really
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Speaker 2: good too.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 1: When you have players, when you have players, and especially
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Speaker 1: when you have a QB, it is amazing what happens.
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Speaker 2: How about Georgia Tennessee this week?
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Speaker 5: That's a good one.
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Speaker 8: That's a good one.
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Speaker 2: Tennessee is better than I thought.
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Speaker 1: I didn't give Joshiel and I said, wait till this
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Speaker 1: week you're right. I said before the season, it's a
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Speaker 1: mystery team to me. Right, new quarterback. He made the
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Speaker 1: right choice. They obviously made the right choice letting Nico go. Uh,
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Speaker 1: this guy's been pretty good the whole team. But again,
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Speaker 1: what you're right, We'll see what Georgia comes calling.
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Speaker 8: Getting back to Gundy. As good at quarterback as he was.
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Speaker 8: I expected maybe to lose sixty nine. Yes, well you
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Speaker 8: lose that bad and you're a quarterback that threw the ball.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, how can he do that? They don't have any players.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just that one week to the next.
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Speaker 5: It's like the LSU really struggled against losing Antac.
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Speaker 2: You know, it was like they're just I mean I
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Speaker 2: kept watching that score. I go, really, yeah, it's like
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Speaker 2: the same thing.
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Speaker 9: I was watching Clemson and Troy was delayed for a
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Speaker 9: long time, and I was like, yeah.
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Speaker 1: That'll that'll look these these games after you've played a
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Speaker 1: big game game. And but but same with A and M.
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Speaker 1: Like the you know, the Saturday game we talked about
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Speaker 1: Utah State. The early kickoff, there was no buzz. You
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Speaker 1: just want to win those You don't want to get
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Speaker 1: people hurt. You want to win the games. You want
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Speaker 1: to advance and get ready because because Florida's coming into
54:17
Speaker 1: L s U this week, right, And and I heard
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Speaker 1: Kelly today and I don't think it was coach be
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Speaker 1: because I agree with him. He said this game is
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Speaker 1: going into the fourth quarter. I can promise you that.
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Speaker 1: And I believe that. I think Florida will take L
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Speaker 8: And I watched U C l A lose to U
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Speaker 2: And I'm kicking myself for not picking Texas State.
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Speaker 5: I just pick.
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Speaker 9: Shoot all right, hey, one of the game that South
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